He's had so much wealth, power and influence all these years and gotten away with it for so long I don't think he relly beleives he's going to be punished. If one or two people come forward and make an accusation, it's possible they are lying. When 8 people all say the same thing and an independent eye witness claims to have seen it happen with his own eyes at the risk of forever damaging his career...well that's pretty cut and dry in my opinion.

It's the dude's job to defend him as best he can. Then again he isn't court ordered to do so, he took the case of his own volition. Seriously though, this is the same lawyer who let him do the TV interview where he admitted to showering with boys all the time. So... he's not precisely the best and brightest.

My wife is a PhD research psychologist. I discussed the HPD diagnosis with her and some of her cohort Friday. Most of them were clinical psychologists. All said that there was no way that Sandusky came even close to the HPD diagnostic criteria. The simple reason is that HPD is all about getting attention and being the constant center of attention. What Sandusky did was to shower attention on young boys, exactly the opposite of HPD. In fact, a major characteristic is HPD is that a person with the disorder becomes extremely uncomfortable when attention is paid to other people and will try to intervene to keep the person from getting the attention, even from themselves. And someone with HPD would never have allowed himself to stay in Paterno's shadow for decades.

But, by just asking for the ability to use this defense, the defense has opened the door to allowing a prosecution forensic psychologist/psychiatrist to examine Sandusky and both counter the HPD diagnosis and to introduce any forensic psychological theory that they wish.

Bass ....Who is worse...... the scumbag ? Or the person who defends him ? I don't know how anyone could ....

This seems too be a slam dunk case for the prosecution, but I said the same thing about the Casey Anthony trial and the OJ trial. It's probably still a crap shoot on whats going to happen in the end.

While I believe that this scumbag is guilty, I do also believe that everyone is entitled to a defense. I know I wouldn't want to stand accused of a criime without any understanding of my legal recourses or any knowledge of how ot navigate the justice system. A defense attorney's main purpose is to be there to provide legal council and to represent his client in court. If Sandusky isn't afforded a vigorous defense he could appeal on those grounds, or maybe get a mistrial declared, no one is going to want this to drag out indefinately. As long as the Prosecution doesn't muck it up he'll be convicted despite any tricks the defense tries to pull.

Some people are misunderstanding the purpose of 'defense'

If you commit a crime, admit it - and are found guilty - it is still your defense, and arguments in your favor AGAINST prosecution, that will determine your sentence - they legally represent you and guide you down the best road during the process.

Guilty or not, everyone needs a defense - some defense councils take sure 'lose' cases, in order to lessen sentences - if they can do that, that is deemed 'success' in the world of law.

This man has more than a personality disorder; he's a really sick puppy to do this to children, I don't care what the sickness is called. He is a monster. In addition, he appears to be an idiot. I don't understand how he could do this all these years with no one having a clue, not even his wife. In fact, I don't believe it, and those people who stayed silent are just as guilty.

Now he'll find out what it's like to be victimized when he's in prison, and I hope he's sent to the worst prison in the country.

Well said, Chris.

And I look at the defense's job in these horrid cases to represent the client the best s/he can. That is how you make sure that if the person is convicted there is no overturning the verdict because the person got crappy defense and that the person gets an appropriate sentence. That way whatever convictions there are the person doesn't get off from a new trial.

I agree, a whole bunch of people had to be looking the other way, including Paterno who couldn't have helped but know this was going on.

As for the "mental illness" defense, this would have been the best defense from the start, it's too late for that now.

Prison is way too good for this old fag, and he'd probably enjoy being gang sodomized, just put it out of it's misery.

Stesilaus...there is never enough money in any award that can take the destruction of an innocence and turn it into a motive for profit. To take a child and violate him physically, then work his mind to the direction that such actions appear "normal" and "acceptable" is akin to putting his brains and emotions in a blender yet expecting him to sort through all those conflicted feelings. Many of those boys will never experience a normal relationship in their lives. Many will never look at their bodies without some sort of aversion.

Money is cold, hard, feelingless stuff that might fill the tummy and keep the body warm, but it cannot take the place of a carefree childhood and natural development. It's designed to teach those who allowed the abuse to continue a lesson.

I have only one word.. "GUILTY". The defense can use whatever cop out they want. It doesnt' change the facts and the testimony of so many vicitms at various times. Now I only wish this trial was in Texas, then the death penalty would be an option.

P.S. anyone who focuses on prison as and option and the 'sodomy' side of it... get a grip and stop obessing about prison sex. Grow up.

Everytime Scumdusky opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. I guess that's a far cry better than what he has been putting in it in the past!

PValdes

Bass ....Who is worse...... the scumbag ? Or the person who defends him ? I don't know how anyone could ....

Well, Amendola is a piece of work himself. Google "Amendola's wife" and you'll see.

Amendola represented a 16-year-old girl then known as Mary Iavasile when she filed an emancipation petition in September 1996. The petition said the girl had graduated from high school in two years with a 3.69 GPA and held a fulltime job at Amendola's law office.

The girl gave birth to Amendola's child when she was 17 years old, her mother, Janet Iavasile, said. Amendola would have been about 49 years old at the time. The age of consent in Pennsylvania is 16.

Janet Iavasile said she didn't know the extent of the relationship between her daughter and the attorney. She thought he was more of a mentor than a paramour.

Amendola married the girl in February 2003 and the couple had a second child before they separated. Amendola's estranged wife, now a 32, has retained his last name.
(NYDailyNews.com)

our brillent system of justice will end up deadlocked cause some douchebag lawyer twists the facts and 2 or 3 bimbos will say not guilty cause they`s be`s smart and this creep like others will walk!!!!!!!!

Three questions: 1. Where is Sandusky's wife, and when is she going to be considered an accomplice in all of this? 2. Where is the school janitor who also witnessed an "activity"? 3. Where is the DA who disappeared under mysterious circumstances when he started to investigate, only to have his car and a laptop sans the harddrive pop up? And just as an aside, I'm kinda curious about all of the supporters of that Second Mile, who donated money.....just idle curiousity on my part.

Stesislaus: You have obviously never been molested. You have no clue what victims of molestation go through. Most of us, never get a dime. All we get is a lifetime of pain from the abuse we suffered.

Your flippant remark is very telling about what sort of person you are.

I hope it makes you feel like a big person to be an apologist for disgusting perverts.

@ ItsAboutTime:

"P.S. anyone who focuses on prison as and option and the 'sodomy' side of it... get a grip and stop obessing about prison sex. Grow up."

I agree, I'm sick of hearing about "Bubba" delivering some sick form of "prison justice." And who's to say Sandusky won't end up a prison rapist himself.

"He's had so much wealth, power and influence all these years and gotten away with it for so long I don't think he relly beleives he's going to be punished."

That's not why he got away with these unspeakable acts all these years. It's because people couldn't fathom someone doing something so heinous - especially in their own backyard - the "it doesn't happen here mentality."

He had the perfect setup - troubled kids without fathers. Anytime they'd raise concerns about him, Sandusky could fall back on the argument that they were lying because they were "troubled".

This entire thing was calculated on Sandusky's part. This isn't as black and white as many people want to believe - it was a complex perfect storm of scenarios that let this predator slip through the cracks and three official police investigations.

It's a shame - let's try to help these kids heal, and learn from these mistakes to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Sandusky is so crazy, he should never have even done that interview. He practically admits that some he molested and some he didn't. His wife was in on it too. This is still the best thing I have seen on this topic of what to do with molesters: http://www.rosebudmag.com/truth-squad/jerry-sandusky-child-molestation-contraceptives-pedophiles-abortion

That's not why he got away with these unspeakable acts all these years. It's because people couldn't fathom someone doing something so heinous - especially in their own backyard - the "it doesn't happen here mentality."

Actually, you are more right than you know. It's not that certain kinds of people commit more crimes than others, it's just that certain groups are suspected and profiled more than others. And, if arrested, certain favored people tend to get off more than poorer members of our society.

The question is: why didn't these "respectable, highly paid" people, who most likely knew what Sandusky was doing, get the police involved? If Sandusky had been Latino, black, Muslim, he would have been arrested immediately, if not shot to death. But white priests and coaches, somehow it's unbelievable.

He's entitled to a defense, but as in many criminal cases where the prosecution's case is overwhelming, there really is no "good" defense. You grasp at something (because you must) and you present it. Will the jury buy it? Likely not, because the evidence is so damning. But you try, because that is how the system works.

The interesting thing about the personality order defense is that it pretty much concedes that he did all these things. And he's been adamant that he did NOT abuse young boys. Now all of a sudden if you switch to "why he did it", you can pretty much throw out the question of "IF" he did it. Almost sounds like the defense is almost throwing in the towel and trying to move to getting some leniency in the sentencing.....

I will say this: Pedophilia is in and of itself a personality disorder. I mean, who is attracted sexually to young boys? It doesn't mean it's not criminal (and it certainly is), but it's also really strange and "abnormal".

@BlueBurner

Uh, I wasn't implying anything about race. Bad reading comprehension - you completely concluded whatever you wanted to.

This is completely unrelated to anything having to do with priests, whites, blacks, hispanics, etc. - this has to do solely with Sandusky, how people knew him, and how they were unable to imagine him being a twisted pervert.

Stop trying to make strawman arguments.

It would seem that the testimony of the victims and the responsible adults witnessing his behavior ... should be enough ... but we've seem over and over how easy it is for lawyers to bury jurors heads in the sand!!!!

We are all human ... it's just that some are more easily fooled than others ... hence ... the jury selection!

@Jed7, Feel free to classify queers/fags anyway you like, as for me, it's all the same. A male pedophile who has a preference for young boys/men is no different in my book then any other fag/homo, it's all part of the same mental disease. Sorry but I ain't buying that bullsh*t.

Then get an education. Your statement makes every heterosexual man a pedophile as well. I mean if they like women then they must like little girls too. Maybe your saying something subconsciously. Hmmmm.

Regardless of how you feel ... there's a big difference between what two consenting adults do ... and a grown man taking advantage of his position in order to take advantage of a child in need!!!!!!!

The interview gets worse?

I would like to know what the fathers of Sanduski's victims say about this "individual" and what they would deem a fair punishment. I know I would toss out the "cruel and unusual punishment" Prohibition in this scumbag's case and let him have it!

"He's had so much wealth, power and influence all these years and gotten away with it for so long I don't think he relly beleives he's going to be punished."

That's not why he got away with these unspeakable acts all these years. It's because people couldn't fathom someone doing something so heinous - especially in their own backyard - the "it doesn't happen here mentality."

I disagree. I believe his position in the community is exactly why he was able to get away with it. If he had not been who he was he wouldn't have his own charity dedicated to helping "at risk" boys. If he wasn't a famous coach at a prestigous university he wouldn't have been trusted by the boys mothers to take their young sons overnight and on trips. I'm sure they were hoping that the exposure would help to increase their odds of getting a sports scholarship. If he wasn't the wealthy, connected individual he was he wouldn't have been in a position to give the expensive gifts to the boys to keep them quiet for as long as he did. If he wasn't so intemately connected to Penn State they never would have swept the incident under the carpet when McQuery (sp?) brought it to their attention. Yes people don't like to acknowledge that these things happen and are committed by people they know. By nature we turn a blind eye because facing it destroys our entire paradigm that the world we live in is safe, that our children are safe. But if Sandusky wasn't the wealthy, upstanding heir apparent to Paterno - and instead was just a creepy old guy waiting outside the local elementary school in a white van with a puppy and a bag of candy, he would have aroused more suspicions. His position gave him an air of respectability, it made people feel safe leaving their children with him. That's why this is such a sensational story, it's a betrayal not just of the children he hurt, but of the entire community.

I believe in a fair trial and all that ... but it seems to me when someone uses the "I didn't do it defense" and drags already traumatized people through the mud ... and wastes the tax payers money ...

There should be a big penalty to then say "I did it because I'm crazy" ......

This crap has to stop somewhere ... someone needs to be held responsible for this!

Chris.......your friends are absolutely right, the only "personality" disorder that would come into play here is a narcissistic personality disorder coupled with a fixated male on male pediophile. And a well socialized Anti-social PD appears to be in play..this is precisely the "personality disorders" that prisons and long long sentences are designed for. They should leave Mrs. Sandusky alone, this kind of monster picks wives and victims for their vulnerability, and precisely because they won't see what they are seeing, and are unable to act on what is happening around them.

Oh goody! (sarcasm) Someone had to try and make this into a race issue when we don't know the names of the victims, much less their race. I guess we should throw in politics too. It was Washington's fault; If he had just followed his king.............

I'm not quite sure "I didn't diddle them all" is much of a defense.

RevSpinnaker

Thank you for the comment. I am in agreement with you. I doubt if he will go to prison at all. If he does, it will probably be years and then appeal, after appeal.. after appeal...

I wasn't making this a race/class issue. I was merely pointing out that so many people apparently knew Sandusky was a pedophile, but did nothing about it. And so many people find this kind of behavior is unbelievable in a man of Sandusky's stature. This says a lot about whom we are likely to find suspicious and who not. Who's likely to get a pass and who not. Race and class have a lot to do with this perception.

Which also explains why no Wall St. Criminal Banksters are in jail.

I agree BlueBurner. Micheal Jackson got away with a lot of inappropriate behavior around kids and people made excuses for him because of who he was.

I also agree. I remember a ditz saying she didn't believe Ted Bundy was a serial killer because he didn't look like one!! What does a serial killer look like?

What does a pedophile look like? They do not have a scarlet "p" tattooed on their foreheads. A pedophile could be anyone. Race, class, social status, profession have NOTHING to do with it.

I believe Sandusky got away with it for as long as he did, because no one was willing to believe it was possible he WAS a pedophile in spite of any and all evidence. A person in his position? Who'd believe it? No one until the evidence became so overwhelming, the truth could not be denied.

I am convinced he chose the victims he chose because he thought no one would believe them. His thinking likely was, who would take the word of some poor underprivileged kid over the great Penn State coach? No one.

Sandusky is guilty and deserves to rot, along with everyone who knew and said nothing. There is a quote for the great orator Cicero (who was no mean lawyer as well): "Qui tacit, consentit". It means. "He who is silent, concurs." Let those who remained silent think about THAT one.

There's something manic about the way Sandusky can't seem to stop smiling.

I clicked your post up before I read it completely. No, I would say that attitude is part of who he is. He is like an immature creepy kid. Sure, I touch them, shower with them, soap them up, and do all kinds of other things with them, but it's all because I just love them. I mean not all of them will say I did those things...but I bet more will come forward. I don't he gets it that his pedophile filter sees things as normal, but that healthy adults who understand how pedophiles work don't see this as normal. Even those who don't understand how pedophiles work think this is normal. Ick.

Power play is all you saw.

Last week when everybody was calling for Sandusky to just plead guilty a lady posted a comment (Sorry-I could not find the post to quote and give proper credit) to the effect that Sandusky possibly is using this trial as a way to relive all these disgusting acts.

It would make sense. A serial pedophile that is no longer able to lurk in the shadows would want any opportunity to get a "fix".

He very well could be. I believe, however, that he is more likely trying to show the world all the good he did and that justifies his actions. "Look at all the boys that I helped! So what if I had sex with a few? They owed me and I deserved to get something for all my time and effort." That is what I believe he is telling himself and that is what he wants to tell the world. He doesn't see any victims in the crowd. He only sees that he was justified in demanding a little pay back for all the "good" he did. Rotten thinking. Rotten scum sucking twit. I've heard this stinking thinking before....It didn't sell then and it won't sell now.

A clue **may** lie in the fact that Sandusky and his wife have zero biological children.

My wild guess...in the days before same-sex marriages, a gay and a lesbian sometimes married to present an acceptable public image....

agreed, think about it guys. when was the last time you could successfully hide something from YOUR wife? ..........let alone do it again and again............

Well, I can't speak for her, but I sure as hell wouldn't sleep with him! Look up Pedophile in the dictionary-his picture is there.

@Hohum. Being a pedophile does not make him gay you twit. Most pedophiles are straight. It's not about straight or gay anyway it is about power and coercion and ultimately mental illness.

And before someone says, mental illness is not an excuse for what he did, but he is ill non-the-less and there is no cure other than to separate him from society.

How come being a pedophile is an illness but being gay isn't? I support gay marriage, but I have never been able to figure out how people can just slap the illness tag on one thing and not the other. Both pedophilia and homosexuality are not biologically normal behaviors for humans. The difference is that one is done legally with both parties consent and the other is illegal and most of the times forced. The actions are completely separate and definitely not equal, but the root cause of the two I believe to be something psychological. It's just that one action affects our kids safety while the other only affects a willing adult.

ummm, separate him from his genitals...take off a few digits on each hand just to be sure.

Richard- He doesn't have to be gay to have self-identified as gay back in the 60's when he married his wife. Think about it, his victims were all males. He has a thing for young boys. Maybe he misinterpreted his attraction for a simple same sex attraction...maybe he was still in denial himself about his urges....we don't know what was going on in his head...It's possible that the marriage was a sham.

I don't think it was though, her standing by him would imply that she has deep feelings of loyalty and love for him, if the marriage was one of convenience she would be distancing herself from him now.

Rather I think it's a case of living in denial. She liked the lifestyle her husband gave her. She was well taken care of, they were well known, elite members of their society. She was given respect based on her husband's reputation and all the comforts she could hope for. She may have suspected, I know it's been said that she warned him previously that someone could "misinterpret" his actions so something he did put up a red flag. I just think she didn't want it to be true, so she chose not to see it. That's why she never brought cookies down to the basement when he was entertaining a young boy, she didn't want to walk in and see something she shouldn't. She could fool herself into believing that he was just reaching out to these kids because they were never able to have children of their own. On some level she knew, but she can't admit it even to herself because she can't bear the guilt. She has to believe he's innocent or she can't live with herself.

How come being a pedophile is an illness but being gay isn't?

First of all, homosexuality isn't classified as an illness in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-V, used by the medical community to classify & describe disorders. It is not considered abnormal behavior. (Although many traditional religious groups hold a different "moral" view.)

Second of all, homosexuality is between consenting people.

Pedophilia is an assault, a violent assault on & victimization of a child.

Why would you think these two things are related?

Sometimes I wish people would think about the labels they assign to people. No, Xina, even IF what you describe happened, it still has nothing to do with him being gay. Please go look up with a pedophile does. It isn't anything to do with being gay. It is to do with being attracted sexually to young people. There isn't a "gay" aspect to it since these kids were underage. There is a pedophile aspect to it. Is he gay? I haven't heard a thing about him saying or doing anything related to adult men...not saying it isn't possible, but this just isn't about being gay. It is about molesting kids.

Oh Travis..sigh. You already said the answer to your question. One involves kids and no consent and the other is a variant on animal sexuality. You may be saying it isn't normal, but that is your opinion and not based on biological facts. You may feel it's psychological, but that doesn't mean it is. It isn't labelled an illness because the more research was done over the years the more scientists, doctors, and researchers realized, based on facts, that it isn't an illness and related in no way to pedophilia.

I said the exact same thing! I think she knew, and she lived her own life while he obviously lived his sick and monsterous life! Disgusting to consider but i think everyone should be considering this scenario!

@ Travis: re: Homosexuality & Pedophilia

"The actions are completely separate and definitely not equal, but the root cause of the two I believe to be something psychological."

Good point Travis, but let's not forget behavioral as well. Child abuse of all kinds has a profound effect on the developing psyche. Pedophiles and prostitutes have a high incidence of sexual abuse as children. Though it is politically incorrect to point it out, recent findings conclude the same for homosexuality.

@ BlueBurner:

"Why would you think these two things are related?"

Because of the common behavioral factor of child sexual abuse.

THEY ALL KNEW!! Let's stop being "stupid" ourselves - of course, THEY ALL KKNEW - there were many past/previous reports. There was a FULL "secret" file held by the adminstrators at PENN STATE.

THEY ALL KNEW! The issue was all about how much money the "Paterno machine" was generating - hundreds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!of MILLIONS AND TOTALLING BILLIONS IN GROSS REVENUES

So - the obvious question is: then why didn't they ALL "get rid of" Sandusky a long time ago ???

WeLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL "Nancy" - Sandusky's charity was so steeply involved in all the financial "laundering" that they COULDN'T. The financial network was FAR TOO intertwined, and EVERY LAST detail of PENN STATE's financial manipulations would come to haunt them ALL.

Paterno, Spanier and Curley have had EXTENSIVE files on this guy - for years! An FBI investigation will come out soon, but AFTER This TRIAL:

IN TODAY'S REPORT 18.JUNE'12:

But the story will be far from over if and when jurors reach that verdict. Three senior Penn State administrators -- athletic director Tim Curley, retired senior vice president Gary Schultz and former university president Graham Spanier -- also knew of McQueary's account but chose not to alert authorities. As new details emerge, it appears their day of reckoning is coming. And when it does, the public may see this was not the "biggest scandal in college sports history," as many declared it last fall. In fact, it was something much worse.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Penn State board member Keith Masser became the first power figure at the university to say publicly that he suspects that the administration headed by Spanier engaged in a cover-up regarding Sandusky. The board fired Spanier on Nov. 9, the same night it ousted Paterno. However, "We had no idea [at the time] he would be involved in a cover-up," said Masser.

Masser's statement stems from an explosive Sandusky-related revelation early last week. As first reported by NBC News, an ongoing investigation being conducted for the board by former FBI director Louis Freeh has uncovered e-mails and documents showing discussions between Spanier and other officials over McQueary's account about Sandusky and the boy in the shower. They've since been turned over to state prosecutors. In one exchange, Spanier and Schultz -- who oversaw the university's police department -- agreed not to inform social services agencies because it would be "humane" to Sandusky.

Read more: #ixzz1y9kcRiYo

They de-listed homosexuality as a disorder....

Pedophilia isn't that much different...it is a sexual preference for adolescents, whereas homosexuals prefer same sex partners. The difference is the age of consent. Two adults of the same sex consenting to a physical relationship is legally okey-dokey. An adult having sexual relations with a child, obviously is not.

Not all pedophiles sexually molest children....

Pedophile/Fag/Queer/homosexual, it's all the same thing, and if you're having and receiving sex with young boys/men, you're far from being "straight". Feed that bullsh*t to someone who doesn't know better.

Actually, pedophilia is being attracted to pre-pubescent age children, not generally teenagers. Though once abuse begins as a child, it may carry over to teenage years. They don’t attach a gender to
them, as you may assume, because the child generally hasn’t “developed” yet. It’s about who can they most easily access and manipulate. It’s not remotely akin to being gay, which is about adult attraction, as is being hetero. Do heteros commonly feel attracted to opposite sex children? No. You may not like the
truth, Mars, but that doesn’t make it less true.

Rev,

People who make such statements are often confused about what same sex orientation really is about. It’s much more than just committing sex acts. Do you define hetero relationships solely by the sex acts?
Didn’t think so. Being gay means you are attracted to someone of the same gender and want to be in a relationship with them. Obviously, sex is a part of that, as it is in hetero relationships. People who have been abused do sometimes act out by re-creating the abusive situation. That can take the form
of having same sex fixations or behaviors when that is the type of abuse that was suffered. Sometimes these men or women do wonder if they are gay. They don’t understand why else they would be acting this way or fixated on this because they know that they are not attracted to the same sex in general, nor
do they desire a relationship with someone of the same gender. This causes them serious confusion. In these situations, their acting out is a result of their not having dealt with their abuse in a positive or healing way. When/if they do finally deal with it and get help, they usually stop acting out and they realize the reason for their obsession and/or behaviors. Often times, these treatments and changes are
considered by the anti-gay community as someone having been cured of being gay. The fact is, they were never gay in the first place! This is a totally different situation than someone whose orientation truly
is same-sex. They just are, and I have yet to see any reliable information that true orientation is a result of being abused or a learned behavior.

The level of ignorance shown by some of the posters on this discussion board is appalling. Homosexuality and pedophilia have nothing to do with each other! All you folks that think it's the same need to educate yourselves. I've lived around gay people since I was 8 years old and I can tell you that homosexuals want ADULT, CONSENTING partners, not children that aren't even old enough to fully realize what sex even is. Sandusky is NOT homosexual, he is a severely SICK in the head man that needs to be put away for the rest of his life.

I think pedophiles are just people who identify with a certain age group, which are children. That was the deal with Michael Jackson. He had a desire to be with young boys because he thinks he is a young boy of the same age. He never got to be around boys of that age when he was younger, so he was doing it as an adult. Most kids want to stay kids forever because it's a fun time, but they soon grow up. Michael had no reason to grow up, so he wanted to stay a child a play with children forever. It's the same with those who like kids of the opposite sex. They just prefer being with girls of a certain age because that's what they are comfortable with. Which is no different then adults in their 50-60's who only like people in their early 20's. Once those partners get older, they dump them for another young person. Hugh Hefner dates and marries woman in the 22-29 age bracket no matter how old he gets.

It's obviously illegal to have relationships with kids, but that's why people who like kids will do whatever it takes to keep seeing them, regardless what the law says. They aren't sick, they just have a preference that is frowned upon in our current soceity. In the 1800's and early 1900's, it wasn't a crime to marry a girl who was 12-14 years old. It was very common since people didn't live much past their 40's.

Ram - I did no tsay that he WAS a homosexual. I said that when he was young and still struggling with an attraction to young boys that he may have THOUGHT or FOOLED HIMSELF into BELIEVING that he was a homosexual.

Not being a pedophile myself, I can only imagine that struggling with those urges must be disconcerting - at least at first. I was hypothesising that he may have prefered not to think of himselv as a monster and might have self identified as homosexual rather than admitting the truth. In that case the notion that their marriage could have been one of convenience to hide two gay people in the 60's wouldn't be far fetched. Though I also explained why I didn't think that was the case if you had read my entire post.

Once again, I am not saying that pedophiles and homosexuals are cut from the same cloth. I am merely stating that I believe that both are products of a psychological condition. I am not even saying that I believe that being homosexual is a bad thing. It's just my opinion that underlying factors contribute to a person's sexual orientation. Probably with heterosexuals as well, but just not to the same extent.

Rampart...To say "THEY ALL KNEW" and to prove obstruction of justice and/or conspiracy to commit child abuse are two different things. Do I believe that Ms. Sandusky knew? Sure, I do. Do I believe they can prove that or even develop probable cause for and arrest? Nope. I do not. There has to be some evidence. If it is found, I hope they get the max. Until then, Ms. Sandusky is not going to walk free. Social censure and social isolation can be brutal....especially, when you have been on a pedestal for all these years. She will walk a loney road for standing by this scumbucket....and she probably deserves it....Denial has to end at some point while you sit in court and hear more and more of the horrid acts he did and the boys he victimized and scarred for life.

I would have to agree with you Travis regarding the psychological part. I know Rev Spinnaker had mentioned at one point that some kids who are molested/abused grow up with identity problems because of what they went through, but it doesn't explain those children who had no abusive/molestation acts done to them who still choose to be with same-sex partners. I think there is something, psychologically, that helps us idenitfy what we are attracted to. Whether it's the opposite-sex, same-sex, children, animals, etc., there is something there that triggers those responses on a psychological level. Now obviously having some sort of relationship with a child (male or female) or animal is not acceptible because of neither having the ability to consent to acts.

Good post Colorblind. Now that her husband has finally been caught, Dottie will have to live with the stigma she's created for herself. You're right, that would be a lonely place to be.

State of Awareness: I'm not saying child abuse is the cause of all homosexuality. But recent statistics indicate at least 1 in 6 boys are molested. So there are a lot more kids, boys and girls, who are molested than there are people "born gay." Yet socially there are few resources for them to find healing. Especially at schools and especially for boys.

....And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

Yeppers...he helped them in many, many ways.

I'm sure Dottie has probably always known that there was something wrong with her husband,but has lived in denial for so long.

She has made all the wrongs that he's done "okay in her mind".

I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for her though...perhaps when everything is said and done and her husband is in prison, she'll start to comprehend what's happened.

For the life of me,I can't figure-out why she stays in the marriage---is it the money?, is it to save face?, was it her upbringing that compels her to stay with this monster....has to be some reason,'cause no person in their right mind would choose to live such a lie for so long.

I wonder what her childhood and upbringing were like? Maybe something similar went on in her own home or environment.

Good point about Dottie's childhood. If she had been raised in an abusive household, and went straight from her parents home to her husband's she may not have recognized that there was anything "not normal" in the way he was acting/treating her.

WHO GIVES A SH*&^%@#! WHY OR "IF" ALL THESE PEOPLE "DIDN'T HEAR" OR "KNOW" ANYTHING - THEY WERE ALL THERE - THEY ALL CONTRIBUTED - AND THERE IS NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY THEY DIDN'T KNOW

WHO CARES IF THEY "GREW UP" IN AN ABUSIVE "LIFE" - WHILE NOW THEY LIVE IN A MILIONAIRE LIFESTYLE.

[COPY OF MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE]

THEY ALL KNEW!! Let's stop being "stupid" ourselves - of course, THEY ALL KKNEW - there were many past/previous reports. There was a FULL "secret" file held by the adminstrators at PENN STATE.

THEY ALL KNEW! The issue was all about how much money the "Paterno machine" was generating - hundreds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!of MILLIONS

So - the obvious question is: then why didn't they ALL "get rid of" Sandusky a long time ago ???

WeLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL "Nancy" - Sandusky's charity was so steeply involved in all the financial "laundering" that they COULDN'T. The financial network was FAR TOO intertwined, and EVERY LAST detail of PENN STATE's financial manipulations would come to haunt them ALL.

Paterno, Spanier and Curley have had EXTENSIVE files on this guy - for years! An FBI investigation will come out soon, but AFTER This TRIAL:

IN TODAY'S REPORT 18.JUNE'12:

But the story will be far from over if and when jurors reach that verdict. Three senior Penn State administrators -- athletic director Tim Curley, retired senior vice president Gary Schultz and former university president Graham Spanier -- also knew of McQueary's account but chose not to alert authorities. As new details emerge, it appears their day of reckoning is coming. And when it does, the public may see this was not the "biggest scandal in college sports history," as many declared it last fall. In fact, it was something much worse.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Penn State board member Keith Masser became the first power figure at the university to say publicly that he suspects that the administration headed by Spanier engaged in a cover-up regarding Sandusky. The board fired Spanier on Nov. 9, the same night it ousted Paterno. However, "We had no idea [at the time] he would be involved in a cover-up," said Masser.

Masser's statement stems from an explosive Sandusky-related revelation early last week. As first reported by NBC News, an ongoing investigation being conducted for the board by former FBI director Louis Freeh has uncovered e-mails and documents showing discussions between Spanier and other officials over McQueary's account about Sandusky and the boy in the shower. They've since been turned over to state prosecutors. In one exchange, Spanier and Schultz -- who oversaw the university's police department -- agreed not to inform social services agencies because it would be "humane" to Sandusky.

Read more: #ixzz1y9kcRiYo

Uh...Rampart....Are you the comment advisor today? Cut and paste is sort of unoriginal. You don't have to OK any post, nor do you have to critique them. I think the law probably cares a lot if there was a conspiracy to commit child abuse and/or obstruction of justice. I think some people care a lot. Now, proving it might be a bit more challenging.

heard... it on the radio....mama don't know...what the papa don't like in the basement...and the kids just want be left on the outside...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWVh0c5-3M

There is a cure for his "disorder" .......It's called a bullet in the forehead.

It is common, legally speaking, to present some strategy of defense. That is all this is, a legal strategy. It can be shot down once it is heard in court. What I find interesting is the below:

"I'm a very passionate person in terms of trying to make a difference in the lives of some young people," Sandusky said in the interview. "I worked very hard to try to connect with them. To make them feel good about themselves. To be something significant in their lives. Maybe this gets misinterpreted, has gotten depending on. … I know a lot of young people where it hasn't. I have worked with many, many young people where there has been no misinterpretation of my actions and I have made a very significant difference in their lives."

No I can tell you that I am a passionate person in general. I am involved locally with our homeless projects and my son's college prep program. I do attempt to make a difference in the lives of some of the homeless and some of the students and I attempt to connect with them in the work that I do. Actually, that connection comes naturally with the work I perform weekly. It does not come by showering with them, touching them or any of the other bizarre and lewd acts Sandusky is accused of. Some students have hugged me (many of the graduating students actually), some of the homeless have hugged me. It has never gone further than that. Making someone feel good about themselves comes in other ways than physically abusing them and emotionally harming them. I am quite certain Sandusky will be "significant" in their lives. He will be the one they remember forever as their abuser. Is that what he wanted? He could have been someone they looked up to. He could have been someone they viewed as a mentor, and yet this sickness (and I believe it is such), led him down a vile path. If convicted by a jury he needs to be incarcerated for the remainder of his life.

This story gets worse and worse each time I hear more. Unfortunately, I do have to wonder whether he was once molested. After all, isn't that quite common?

Normally, PValdes, I don't support violence as an answer to a problem. But that made me chuckle!

Margo: Yes it is quite common. At least 1 in 6 boys are molested as children. The majority, however, do not repeat the behavior. Let alone become serial molesters like Sandusky.

Even as a 10 year old, I recognized the creepiness an something wrong factor when I went to a couple of Boy Scout meetings. I don't think I was abused, but the actions of the scoutmaster lives with me today.

COG: Sounds like the scoutmaster was grooming you. You experienced what experts call the"uh-oh feeling." Kids that were abused often describe having the feeling something was wrong when they were being coerced.

Two proactive things to teach young kids is if an older child or adult wants to do something in secret and not to tell, go tell immediately. And if they do something or put the child in situation that gives them the "uh-oh feeling," they should go tell immediately.

To Angry Mom in GA. I totally agree. My sister has the theory that the reason so many rapists and pedophils go free is because the judges themselves are so twisted and crooked with strange desires and hang ups of their own. Just think about the power held by judges and see if they would not be drawn in to misusing that power for their own evil desires. Throw the building on him!!! Just as you said.

One of the original judges in this case was recused because of her connections with Second Mile.

Yeah, right after she set bail for the slimebag....

Mothers have been widely known to set children up for all kinds of abuse, including sexual. Females, not necessarily mothers, are perpetrators of as much as 30% of intrafamilial sexual abuse. Some studies indicate more. They also kill more of their own children than men. Cite CDC.

I saw my own mother break her hand hitting my brother. So your "as a mom" posturing doesn't fly with me.

Please cite your quotes, there, RevSpinnaker.

Could it be that your personal filters have interfered with your view of the world, and that you only see which statistics you wish to see?

Objectivity is most difficult....if not impossible for most.

Yeah, well, Rev, just because YOU had an abusive mother does NOT mean all mothers are abusive. Yeah, there are lots out there, but that's not the topic of discussion. Sounds to me like you need some therapy for your issues.

being an enabler makes a person just as bad if not worse. Dotti had to turn her head, that is if she was not watching intently. Either way, she let it happen in her house rather then shoot him in defense of the kids. Which is what she should have done)

@ Jet:

" [Y]ou only see which statistics you wish to see."

The same may apply to you.

Article maternal murder:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42634832/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

Katty Kay-Morning Joe

• http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/most-children-who-die-from-abuse...

There's more at the Center for Disease Control, the American Journal of Psychiatry, the US Child Welfare Studies, JAMA among others.

Blue Rose: Where did I say all mothers? But just to stay on topic try this link.

Female pedophiles - Michele Elliott - Kidscape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCpr3hr0K30

Excellent point about fathers Jane. I'm forever thankful to my Dad for hanging in there for the sake of his kids.

If he does have Histrionic Personality Disorder...he is one of very few males to have it. While one can attribute abnormal sexual behaviors to this disorder, one would have to assume that it would not be projected only toward young boys but ALL males. Otherwise, all pedophiles could claim Histrionic Personality Disorder.

There are other symptoms of that disorder that are absent from Sandusky's personality.

I thought he did the interview without notifying or getting permission from Costas. It sounds like Costas is trying to back pedal and use what Sandusky did without his knowledge as a way to somehow show Sandusky is innocent.

ummm...what? I'm totally confused by your comment. Probably the blonde hair. Who did what interview without notifying Costas? The attorney was sitting in the chair across from Costas, while Sandusky was on the phone. From what I saw of the interview, I don't think Costas (or anyone for that matter) thinks Sandusky is innocent....his attorney included. Doing his duty? Yep. Does he believe Sandusky? Who could??

You lost me on that one too, State of Awareness.

State of awareness you are not ! Take a long walk off a short dock and call us when you hit bottom?

On second thought just do the walk forget the call.

First of all, Josh blow it out your rear end. There is no need to insult anyone to make yourself seem smarter.

Marla, Im not blond and you should do the same as Josh in keeping any insults to yourself when someone may have misunderstood information.

I honestly thought that Sandusky did an interview without the knowledge of his attorney. I had missed the information that was released that Costas was with Sandusky at the time he did the phone interview. So forgive me if I had missed a piece of information regarding this whole situtation.

Amen, mmc(ss). I am a Penn State parent, and am utterly sickened that NO ONE paid attention to the red flags (obviously they knew something wasn't right when they told Sandusky to not bring kids to the campus any longer). They they were more concerned with keeping things quiet and shoving it under the rug. Penn State is a good school academically, but the football/sports program is like the catholic church, a good-old boy system, protective of its own, and concerned mainly with money-making. So glad my kid is a non-sports geek and has no connection with any of them.

If we stereotype on appearance, didn't paterno look like a perv too? Or, reflect on all of his comments and restrictions on the team, very controlling man, I suspect he is a Pedophile too, maybe either in retirement or medically induced death. paterno was a first class creep with too much control, the witness didn't want to offend him by detailing what they saw. Gimme a break!

MMC, I couldn't agree more. He slammed his locker door loud to stop it...wooooo-- impressive. (eye roll) Freaking wuss. You see a boy being raped, and you slam your locker door??? And go home and call your daddy??? Yes, I'm sure it was horrific to see, but Mike, ol' buddy, ol' pal-- you blew it.

I have a few comments:

I am not so sure about they were hiding his sexual issues with marriage, but then back in the day, Sandusky had so much power and influence and everything was not "discussed" and certainly there were no 24/7 news cycles and cell phones with cameras. That would have certainly been a deterent of things behind closed doors- but he would have most likely confiscated them. I am sure he did his own laundry, but at the locker rooms, it would have just been thrown into a towel laundry bin.

Perhaps when he went down to the basement, she was told in no uncertain terms, to STAY OUT. And being the scared little woman, did nothing. Lots of men still hold that power, both pyschologically and financially.

Remember that young woman...Jaycee Dugard who was found in CA years, after her kidnaping? The creepy wife knew all about her and that he was having sex with this young girl....and did she go to the police? Hell no, and even when the two daughters were born.

If it was true he threatend one kid with his life if he told, what was preventing him to not threaten Dottie? A few different scenarios, and where were all those adopted kids? Away at school or old enough to being out on their own. I wonder if the investigators interviewed their kids about any of this.

I think our world is going to hell in a handbasket, as we used to say years ago. More kidnappings, more sexual assaults, more burying people in the back yards. I don't know if it happend when I was a young adult in the early 70's and 80's and we still had news on at 6PM and 10PM. I don't remember anything like this and I was in a Catholic school and church. Well, we all found out later about that!

All I know is that when my grandkids come to visit, the tv is on sponge bob or Sesame Street. Absolutely no news channels! I can not protect them from all reality, but I am sure not going to open the door to these kinds of "gramma, what did that man do" either.

Wade, Sandusky went WAY beyond molestation. McQueary described sounds that Jerry should only make with his wife, and certain not even in her a___.

You do realize they are fictional characters on a television program, correct? People need to stop thinking that police investigations and criminal trials are conducted in the same manner they see reflected on television programs, where the writers and producers determine the "outcome".

For those thinking pedophiles are homosexuals, please go to the library and read a copy of the Diagnostics and Statistical Manual of Mental Illnesses, the standard for describing and diagnosing mental illnesses. As several previous posters mentioned, the mental illness Sandusky's attorneys have mentioned does not clinically describe Sandusky's behavior. And if they present that as an affirmative defense, the prosecution will have their own mental health experts examine Sandusky. So you will see a battle of experts. And most individuals don't have the education and clinical experience to understand the testimony that will be presented, jurors especially. One reason why the jury in the Simpson trial acquited - they didn't understand the complex, days long presentations on DNA. Which is why the attorney representing the families in the civil trial presented a "DNA for Dummies" explanation. Which I hope the prosecutors will do in this case.

tired, I'd like to think so. That his attorneys let him make his free and open admissions, probably because they themselves were so outraged that this guy had sex with all those young boys and doesn't think anything of it because he's gotten away with it for so long.