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Subscribe to RSSIn court, Jerry Sandusky's wife of 45 years took the stand to defend her husband, painting unflattering portraits of several of the accusers. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports.
Updated at 6:54 p.m. ET: Jerry Sandusky's wife, Dottie, took the stand Tuesday as a defense witness in her husband's child sexual abuse trial, saying she never heard or saw her husband of 45 years behaving inappropriately around children.
The Sanduskys took a deep interest in the welfare of children because the couple were unable to have children of their own, she testified on the sixth day of her husband's trial in Bellefonte, Pa., on 51 counts alleging that he abused 10 boys over 15 years.
"We had been trying for a while, and nothing happened," Dottie Sandusky said under questioning from lawyers for her husband.
At first, the couple, who are the parents of six adopted children, took in foster children. But "we knew we couldn't take any more kids into our family, and Jerry felt there was a need to start a home or foundation like that," she said.
Prosecutors depict Sandusky, the former longtime defensive coordinator for the Penn State University football team, as having used his connection to one of the nation's premier college football programs to "groom" the boys, whom he met through his Second Mile charity for troubled children, for sexual relationships.
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Although speculation has swirled around the case from the beginning about whether Dottie Sandusky knew of her husband's alleged behavior, she hasn't been charged with a crime. She said Tuesday that she had never seen or heard her husband engaging in anything inappropriate.
Once or twice a month, other parents' children — including some of the men who testified against Jerry Sandusky — would stay overnight with the Sanduskys, she testified, apologizing several times for not being able to remember when.
Some of the alleged victims testified that Jerry Sandusky would almost always take them to the basement. One of them testified that he cried out for help as Sandusky raped him but that no one came to his assistance.
But Dottie Sandusky testified that when children stayed over, they were given a choice of where to sleep: in the basement or on the first or second floors. She said, in contradiction of testimony that the room seemed to be soundproofed, that she was able to hear sound coming from the basement while upstairs and that she never heard anyone calling out for help.
Asked why so many witnesses would want to tell the same lie about her husband, she said, "I don't know."
Psychologist: Mental disorder could explain behavior
Dottie Sandusky testified for about an hour, following a psychologist who told jurors that her husband has a personality disorder that leads him to behave in grandiose ways that observers might consider inappropriate.
Prosecutors presented a string of witnesses — including eight of the alleged victims — who described attentive behavior that progressed to inappropriate advances, oral sex and, in some cases, rape.
But the defense expert, Elliot Atkins, a psychologist in private practice in the Philadelphia area, said "histrionic personality disorder" could explain the alleged grooming behavior, a conclusion he said he reached after interviewing Sandusky for six hours and reading his autobiography, "Touched," and intimately personal email messages Sandusky sent to some of his alleged victims.
Histrionic means "dramatic" or "theatrical." People with the disorder desperately seek the approval of others and behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention, according to the Cleveland Clinic, one of the nation's leading medical centers.
Atkins provided a similar description, saying people with the disorder "might do something dramatic to draw attention to themselves," including behaving in a way that is "inappropriately sexually provocative."
Does it matter if Sandusky has a personality disorder?
"Someone would likely, under those circumstances, desperately attempt to maintain or re-establish that relationship" with someone who had dropped out of his or her life, as Sandusky appeared to do in his email messages, Atkins said.
As part of his ruling allowing Sandusky to present the psychological evidence, the judge ordered that he also undergo an examination by a prosecution expert. Atkins acknowledged that the prosecution examiner disagreed with his assessment.
Gail Saltz, an associate professor of psychiatry at New York Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of Medicine, said the diagnosis was highly controversial in her field.
"This would be an incredible stretch — so much that it disturbs some of my colleagues that they are bringing it up," Saltz said in an interview Tuesday on NBC's TODAY.
"This diagnosis has no bearing on your moral compass, your ability to understand what's legal," she said. "It has nothing to do with being a pedophile. it has nothing to do with sexual behavior toward children."
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A string of character witnesses, meanwhile, described Sandusky him as a good and caring man with a stellar reputation in the community.
Lance Mehl, who played for Sandusky at Penn State before spending eight years in the National Football League, called Sandusky a "class act." Kelli Simco, who attended Second Mile for much of her childhood and wrote a newspaper column defending him last year, told how Sandusky arranged to pay her college tuition. Tennesa Inhoof, another woman who attended Sandusky's camps, called him "a very respected man in the community for Second Mile and all the other things he did for the kids."
Another witness said one of the men who testified against Sandusky, describing multiple incidents of alleged abuse, was unreliable and dishonest.
Megan Rash, an Army veteran who said her late brother was close friends with the man, identified in the indictment as "Victim 4," said he "was a dishonest person and embellished stories."
On cross-examination, Rash acknowledged that she had suffered a brain injury in the service and said she couldn't remember where she was deployed.
Another character witness, Jack Willenbrock, a former Penn State professor, called Sandusky "a father figure" who was "respected for what he did professionally."
On cross-examination, Willenbrock said he refused to believe the allegations against his longtime friend and had told acquaintances never to discuss them in his presence.
Defense: Police coached witnesses
Sandusky's attorneys also strongly suggested that state investigators "tainted" the investigation by telling alleged victims that there were other victims and by "refreshing" their memories after they initially said little about Sandusky in police interviews.
Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Scott Rossman responded that it wasn't unusual for victims of sexual assaults to be reluctant to tell their stories at first. He said that at no time did investigators ever tell potential witnesses what to say.
But Sandusky's attorneys repeatedly indicated that they believed Rossman and retired state Trooper Joseph Leiter coached witnesses, zeroing in on an audiotape of their interview with alleged victim No 4.
In the tape, Benjamin Andreozzi, the attorney for alleged victim No. 4, was heard giving Leiter suggestions on how to get his client to give specifics of his relationship with Sandusky.
"Can we at some point in time say to him, 'Listen we've interviewed other kids, and other kids have told us there was intercourse and that they've admitted - is there anything else you want to tell us?'" Andreozzi was heard having said.
"Yep, we do that with all the time with other kids," Leiter was heard responding.
Andreozzi, who was called to the stand to verify the authenticity of the recording, said his client was "clearly emotionally distraught by having to go in and speak with the authorities" and that it took some time for the man to open up.
As part of their attempt to prove that the alleged victims were seeking to cash in on the case, Sandusky's lawyers also questioned Andreozzi about a possible civil suit for damages.
After lengthy discussion about what he could say under attorney-client privilege, Andreozzi reluctantly acknowledged that a guilty verdict "could have an impact, yes," if the man filed a lawsuit.
John Q. Kelly, a former New York prosecutor who specializes in high-profile criminal defense cases, said the defense had few other options unless they take the risky decision to put Sandusky on the stand. CBSNews reported Tuesday that Sandusky would testify, but his lead attorney, Joseph Amendola, refused to confirm the report.
"I think they just have to say none of it is factual, didn't happen, never went on," Kelly said in an interview on NBC's TODAY show.
"They have to do that by showing the times, the events, the places were all sort of vague and they couldn't nail down the details," Kelly said. "Therefore you have to ignore it."
Closing arguments are expected Thursday, and the jury could begin deliberations as early as Thursday afternoon.
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dirty old man!
Not in the least, I confess to being a dirty old man, and a little perverted. but this sick piece of sub human scum is just that scum.
There were probably many willing partners who we'll never hear from.
I think, if he were truely innocent, it would have never gotten this far.....just my opinion......
And I bet he stays a dirty old man until he's a dead old man.
If he is innocent of all of the charges, why would he need a psychologist to explain his non illegal actions? It isn ot illegal to send notes or do any of the things they are providing an explanation for (creepy and sick, but not illegal) so why is this even relevant?
Even if the victims were coached, they still went to the police with a story that Sandusky abused them. In my lifetime, not one person has ever gone to the police to say I abused them. The vast majority of people-even wealthy ones who work with children-can say the same. How do this many people make up a story...that just happens to match what an eye witness saw?
In terms of blaming the victim-the same thing happens to rape victims. Let's put them on trial and expose everything they may have done wrong in their life.
I understand the "let's blame the victims" game that all rapist and pedophiles play at trial-but it makes me sick. A few of his friends testified that he didn't think he would do this and never saw him do it. Does anyone think that their uncle/stepdat/neighbor would do this until the are discovered?
My question is, where are all of the kids this guy has helped who know he would never do this? Where are the rallies of people who went through his program and know these charges against them are false? Where are all of the people who were helped by this good and decent man and are standing by him until he is exhonorated? Where are the people saying, this man changed my life for the better and I cannot believe he had anything to do with this? There don't seem to be many-if any.
Is it possible that these men that have come forward in Sandusky's defense did not fit his requirements for someone that could eventually be abused, therefore they never saw that side of him? It appears that he sought his victims based on their circumstances. Obviously he didn't abuse every single young male he encountered because he knew they could not all be manipulated. Classic stalker/pedophile
I think what they are trying to do via the psychologist is to explain why some of these things that may seem terribly incriminating really aren't since he has this "disorder". Like sending the creepy notes to the kids.... All part of the "disorder". Look, they have to do SOMETHING to try to explain it, so you grasp at the best straws you've got, even if they are lousy ones.
Seems like most of their defense is character witnesses, which is really lame. I mean, Dennis Rader (the BTK killer) was a church Deacon and had MANY people fooled into thinking that he was a god fearing Christian man. He was a cub scout leader and, on one occasion, left a boy scout campout to kill someone! And all of those people would testify that he was an exemplary citizen and a great cub scout leader, while all the while being a serial murderer for years and years!
Some people are very good at compartmentalizing their lives, to the point where most of the people see one thing, while only a few see "the monster" that they also are. Sandusky seems to be one such person. Rader was another, and OJ Simpson yet another. Seemingly normal to 99% of the population, yet harboring a dark dark secret. Just because you can find people to testify that they've never seen you mistreat children or puppies doesn't mean you never do. It just means they've never seen you do it!
On the outside, Dexter Morgan is an excellent blood splatter analyst. I'm sure pretty much everyone at Miami PD could testify in a court of law about his character.
But Dexter is a different person when others don't see him. Same with a bunch of pedophiles, rapists, murderers, serial killers, etc. If it were so easy to identify a psychopath, we'd all be better off.
My wife is a PhD research psychologist and many of our friends are clinical psychologists. There are several issues here.
1) The HPD diagnosis is rare because it is "red-flagged" meaning that it is nos well-supported clinically and has one or more "troubling" aspects. The troubling aspect is that overall about 80% of those diagnosed are women. But if you break it down further, you find that men diagnose HPD a lot in women, but female psychologists diagnose it about three times as much in men. This gender linkage causes serious doubt that it is a valid diagnosis.
2) HPD "replaced" hysteria, a long outdated psychological disorder that occurred only in women. Read a little and you will see that "traditional" psychotherapists slowly replaced hysteria with a number of more precise diagnoses, but retained the female focus. The further you take HPD back, the more you will see that it could never have anything to do with Sandusky at all.
3) HPD sufferers are supposed to be so self-focused that they become extremely uncomfortable when any attention is given to anyone else. This is especially true when the "sufferer" is compelled to give attention to others. If Sandusky had HPD, it would have made him very uncomfortable to have given any attention, presents, special treatment, etc to anyone except himself. One symptom of HPD is that this causes people to "treat" themselves to expensive luxuries, not that it causes one to shower them on others.
4) Law enforcement people say that only between 1 in 20 and 1 in 40 victims will come forward in a case like this. This means that as many as 390 of Sandusky's victims are still out there. Scary.
Pedaphile @!$%#ing @!$%# is a DSM-IV diagnosis?
Methinks not.
He should spend eternity getting anally-destroyed.
With the recent trials of big wigs, and scum defending them, [and we all know why. They are probable suspects by association, and they defend their own kind]I can see this monster getting at the least time, maybe a month in the funny house.
If this ba$$ard has a mental condition then all dirty men are to be sent to a Doctor because they have a mental body and innocent. Bull!!!.
No, other perverts didn't want anything to do with him, they want the little one's.
I often wonder if their penies' are so small that a woman would have no desire. Naw, he wanted control. A grown man would of tried to knock his dead head off.
I don't care what kind of disorder he claims he has, he knows right from wrong or he wouldn't have told one child you will never see your parents again if you tell anyone! Lock him up!
If you've ever watched Dateline when they have the "Predator" episodes, it is always amazing the lengths these guys will go to in order to do completely irrational things. I mean, they will drive like 5-6 hours to meet what they think is a 12 year old girl, and then when they get there say (without fail), "I wasn't going to do anything!" It's like a compulsion that makes absolutely no sense to a "normal" person, but they seem almost powerless to stop it. No, it's not an excuse by a long shot, and yes it is definitely criminal. But I see in Sandusky the same compulsion and the same rationalizing after the fact.
Never Stop Asking...:
DSM-IV 302.2: "Pedophilia"
Of course, just because someone meets the criteria to be given a clinically acceptable diagnosis, this does not mean that person therefore lacks the ability to judge right from wrong. They may have difficulty controlling their compulsive behavior, but this is no reason to excuse them from facing the legal consequences of their actions. Persons with "Antisocial Personality Disorder" (DSM-IV 301.7) go to jail all the time for serious crimes, as well they should. (In fact, it is the history or pattern of criminal behavior that usually influences a professional to render such a diagnosis). Persons with criminal behavior do need, and often receive treatment, but they do not get to substitute this for the requirement to pay their debt to society.
And by the way, even someone who truly does meet the criteria for "histrionic personality disorder" (which certainly does not fit the bill here - meaning this "expert" witness is no expert!) would know when they are crossing the line into criminal behavior, including an adult who may be writing or sending sexually explicit letters to minors. The defense has made a grave error in judgment on this one.
Reba, do ya' think?
Clearly, I am mocking the entire concept of pedophilia as a "mental disorder."
Get out of the suburbs and join the real world, Reba.
Forgo a single quilting meeting or coffee klatch and nut up already.
Take a good look of the picture of her above. Now imagine horns on her and tell me they're not fitting!
Literally branding this POS would be too good for this sicko. Anything short of a long prison sentence in a State Prison's GP and not some country club Prison will be a gross miscarriage of Justice. May I suggest Angola in Louisianna ?
dottie the douche...was her dad named Schultz...i see nothinnng...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWVh0c5-3M&feature=related
If Jerry Sandusky ends up in Prison he will be dead in a week.
I see a clueless old woman.
They tried for years to have children of there own ! lady he likes 12 yr boy ! after hearing from one of the victims he screamed for help ! maybe besides being dumb, she is deaf too !
and to the idoit @ 1.2 JK since when is a child willing when a old man is raping you ! sounds like we have a pedophile on the blog, making excuses for this vile piece of @!$%# who preys on children !
Dottie is aptly named. She could have walked in on her husband banging one of the boys and she would still be in denial.
Dotty:
1a. Mentally unbalanced; crazy.
b. Amusingly eccentric or unconventional.
c. Ridiculous or absurd: a dotty scheme.
2. Having a feeble or unsteady gait; shaky.
3. Obsessively infatuated or enamored.
Of course his wife saw no evidence of this. How many mothers whose husbands were sexually abusing their own daughters right in their house have claimed they were unaware of it? Did his wife think he was going to have sex with young boys right in front of her on the dining room table maybe?
NO ONE asked her if she heard them SCREAMING as they were being raped? And, when did she have her last audio examination / hearing test?
Disgusting pig with a wife living in denial!
Like his wife was gonna say "I knew and said nothing!". She needs to hold on to her half of the marital assets.
Honey..can you check out the back door..think the cat got its tail stuck again..same sounds I hear every other week dear..loud meows! Or is that you fans from Penn state.saying go go go go ..I'm confused dear.
OMG she is lying through her teeth the bitch is just as guilty as he is and should be prosecuted as an accessory after the fact. Give her a lie detector test, she would fail miserably. She knows he is a pervert and just doesn't want to loose her cushy life. She and everyone else who have protected this monster should go to jail. Put them all in the same cell and let him has his way with them. See how it feels to be attacked by a monster. I hope he rots in jail.
If all these 10 kids just suddenly came out of nowhere and began acusing him just recently, I would give his side of the story some credit. But these are kids and many now adults who came forward over spans of years to say that Sandusky was abusing them. There's a span of 10 or so years between ages of these kids and most don't know the other. Most of them were not believed by the "athorities" when they first came forward to acuse him and were told to rethink what they were saying. They tell the same story about their abuse even though most never met each other. What we really have is a history of the school ignoring these childrens' pleas for help and protection to protect this man and the school's reputation.
It's hilarious that the character witnesses from Second Mile are mostly female. He obviously wasn't into females and therefore would not have molested you.
I just don't know if she was willfully ignorant or simply ignorant. I bet that the cult-like worship of the football coaches at Penn State made her too scared to "risk everything" by exposing her husband. Both of them were likely invested in keeping up the charade for their family, friends and reputations.
Also, they are part of an older generation who swept stuff like this under the rug, so I can imagine her choosing to remain ignorant.
Well, of course they were "unable" to have natural children of their own! Old Jer was unable to perform his husbandly duties since his wife is, you know, older than 14. Even worse--she's a girl.
"...defense had few other options unless they take the risky decision to put Sandusky on the stand."
He did so badly in front of a reporter, I'd pay money to see a pro work him over.
Never Stop asking..
I neither quilt nor drink coffee. I work with people! In the real world! And let me tell you, I have come across quite a few characters. My opinions are based on practical experience, not some hypothetical sense of justice, or how the world works. Your cynicism clouds your judgment, and you clearly have little practical knowledge of how the world of medicine/psychology/insurance works.
First of all, if you had read my post and had any attempt to understand it, I in no way excused this behavior, nor attempted to indicate any compassion for those who commit such detestable acts.
As for that you think it is ludicrous to include certain diagnoses, you do not realize that this is required in order for the professional community to assert that they can provide treatment programs for offenders. (Also, you need specific, clinically acceptable diagnoses in order for insurance to cover treatment for those who qualify for these disorders; but I do not intend to digress into the woes imposed by insurance companies). Maybe you have a distorted perception that treating an offender is in some way a means by the professional community to excuse or minimize the wrong-doing of such a person. How very limited your perspective. You need to remember, that despite what you personally feel these offenders deserve, not all offenders spend the rest of their lives in prison. (Remember, if the first offense was as a juvenille/minor, the tend to get out of jail by their early twenties). Since this is the case, legally, the only way to get that person back into prison, especially if they are no longer on probation, is for them to commit another crime. This would require another person to become a victim before your wish that the offender spend even more time in jail will come to pass. ALSO: a person can have an inclination toward pedophilia, but have never acted on it. As perverse as it may be, you cannot incarcerate someone for a mere fantasy. In order to incarcerate these people, there have to be actual victims. I don't know about you, but I would prefer fewer victims. This is why it is so essential for offenders or potential offenders to have access to treatment, as it creates at least the possibility that a person can be rehabilitated and not victimize again (or not at all, if that is the case).
THIS is a big reason behind including Pedophilia as a diagnosis. It is not, as you try to slant it, a means to help an offender escape responsibility for his/her actions. It is much broader than just helping the individual, it is a service to the community of persons who could be potential victims.
Now that I have called your bluff, how about you crawling out of that little whole of yours where you formulate opinions in a vacuum, and get some real world experience of your own?
NO ONE should be allowed to house young kids at their home unless they are a registered foster care or other OK-to-abuse-children-by-the-state organization. These homosexual teens should never have been left alone at his house.
@Chris: The teens weren't homosexual, the dirty pedophile like to rape young boys. I am a straight woman, but even I don't think you should insult gays or homosexuals by lumping them in the same category as this freak of nature pedophile.
Ignorance reigns! Sandusky is a pedophile. These were young boys and this has nothing to do with homosexuality. It has to do with Sandusky being a sexual predator whose victims of choice would be young boys.
And if you want to be really scared Sandusky and his wife WERE registered and approved foster parents. And they adopted children. So that approval made no difference. If anything it gave him an aura of legitimacy that he took advantage of to have his pick of young boys to assault.
Chris: You are one obnoxious bas$ard! These teens weren't homosexuals. They were innocent children who were attacked by a very sick man. Do you think they would be crying on the stand if they were just out to get a financial settlement out of this? They are now grown men. Most grown men don't cry unless they are emotionally distraught over something. These crimes were as heinous as it comes. Take your opinions somewhere else and stop placing blame on these young men who put all their trust and innocence in a pedophile!
Once a pedophile always a pedophile. They can never be rehabilitated. Sandusky has no medical condition! He is a sick piece of crap and needs to be put with the general public in prison for the rest of his life plain and simple. Let the inmates give him a taste of his own medicine and see how he likes it!
chris-65 with this thinking i can only think u r sandusky's son ,how stupid and ignorant r u ,where did this idea come from, if u cant say anything more intelligent than this stay out of the conversation
Posters on this site deliberately overlook the fact that these alleged victims were all troubled kids. They got into a lot of trouble for lying and other misdeeds. Years after the alleged incidents, they ( and their parents) were approached by cops and lawyers to 'refresh' their recollection with the chance for a big settlement in a civil suit. It's absurd how vindictive the posters are on this site - hopefully Sandusky's jury is a lot more open minded.
But one cannot ignore the fact that McQueary witnessed an inappropriate incident, and there was a report made that was covered up by Penn State and other officials. There was also an incident reported by the mother of a child who attempted to get resolution through the college and local law enforcement officials. I think Sandusky does have a mental problem, but don't all who abuse children in any way, shape or form? Just because you can put a name on it, doesn't excuse it.
raddbrad, Sir, You really need to pull your head out of the sand. Sure these were troubled teens. In most cases that is the sort of kid these sick men search out to abuse. Their home lives tend to be lacking without attentive parents. This makes them for lack of a better term "easy marks". Do you think he was going to single out a lawyers son or a school teachers son? No, they might tell mom or dad while sitting down for dinner. See, people don't tend to believe these kids(as you have proven) so the risk factor is lower. They also fall for the alure of riches and the perks that came along with the abuse.
If you think for a minute these kids were not damaged for life you are sadly mistaken. The scary thing is that people like you refuse to accept that their friend, minister or brother could commit such acts. This enables the behavior to continue.
I can see supporting a friend. I cannot see turning a blind eye to what is obivious. Don't make a complete fool of yourself.
@raddbrad - Define "troubled kids"? That is a generalization on your part saying that ALL of the 10 kids are troubled? Give me proof showing that ALL of them are troubled kids BEFORE they met Sandusky. Pedophiles use this against kids that nobody is ever going to believe them because of this and that. Assuming you are right that they are troubled kids, does that make them less of a person? No. Does that take away their right for a trial. No. Sandusky himself admitted that he showers and plays with these kids NAKED. That doesn't bother you? Let's take the "rape accusations" out, but just the fact that he, showers, gives "rasberry" kisses to kids and hugs them - while both parties are naked is just wrong. Not to mention, these are random kids. So that doesn't bother you? You're totally fine with that?
Actually pedophiles are opportunistic predators, he had access to young boys so they became his victims.
Homosexual teens? what are you stupid or what? These were just kids that were molested by this pervert of a pediphile.none of the kids were gay to my knowledge but even if a few were this is still so wrong. Chose your more carefully in the future if your IQ will allow it.
reading that post from raddbrab i realize that he is most likely a sandusky family member who has decided to excuse the criminal by blaming the victims,what a sorry excuse for a man
@Chloe & Renee,
These were not "troubled" children in the way that you are suggesting. They were mostly the children of broken homes and single-parent households. Most of what Second Mile had to do with coaching with schoolwork and general mentoring. Second Mile was just a copycat of Big Brothers and Big Sisters. About 2/3 of the kids were little girls and a lot of what they did was just "life coaching" --- teaching kids how to set goals and achieve them, the 90's self-esteem thing, and a lot of field trips and outings so the kids could have fun in a structured setting.
It's a shame that the people of the community of Penn State have higher regard for an accused pedophile than they do their own police department. No wonder he got away with it for so long.
Please remember if Sandusky is acquitted, that does not mean he is not guilty. People need to keep Sandusky away from their children!!!!!!! Sandusky is a pedophile.
Kim from Utah, if Sandusky gets acquitted, I will bet anything that he will either have to go through an identity protection and or stay in hiding for the rest of his miserable years. There are a lot of people that truly hate him. I hope and pray he gets the ultimate punishment.
I agree "Whatsgoingonhere"----- i guess it's much easier to "look away" and what a true disappointment it is that so many people aware of the problem chose to ignore it. Makes me sick!
Chris-65 - you are a true blue idiot. Please don't waste our air with your tasteless comments. These young boys went through hell and will forever be living with this. It has NOTHING to do with their sexuality. God, you are stupid!
I'm so amazed at the horrible comments some people post here. The lack of empathy and understanding of what these kids endured is a tragedy. for you fat azz morons spitting out your insecurities..... think about how YOU would feel if that happened to you or your kids..... oh....wait....you have no feelings....so you wouldn't know.
Thank God that Sandusky’s ugly mug has been plastered all over and into our brains. If he is acquitted, at least he will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder. Of course Sandusky might not learn and some pissed off dad might take matters into their own hands. (Castrate him please!!!!!) Seems to me that if you have enough money you can get acquitted these days. Penn State has a lot to loose if Sandusky goes to jail. The almighty dollar can set you free.
If he gets acquitted or found not guilty, he will be joining Casey Anthony in the same hiding spot. His career and life are basically over and done.
I think if he doesn't end up in prison, the parents in the community in which he resides will want him run out of town... They're already uncomfortable with the prospects of him having time near their kids. On a social level, it's highly doubtful he'd be accepted into a community with kids, with open arms. And if they do try to do identity protection, many might cry foul, and in the name of not riskig their kids, they could well clamor for his assumed new name to be slipped onto the sex offender's registry "should he end up near our town".... The NIMBA principle (not in my back yard) practically would apply to this...
That's what they all say about pedophiles, he was such a nice guy, well they have learned the game of being the nice guy, scoping in on needy, or children that need a male role model.
And people stop grouping pedophiles with being gay, it's not gay men, it's straight men who rape children!
Look at Sandusky married, a father and grandfather. These men are just sick twisted sub humans!
His neighbors thought Jeffrey Dahmer was a nice guy too.
You just never know.
Those people didn't see what Sandusky's victims saw.
John Wayne Gacy was "sweet" too!!!
And peope described Ted Bundy as "good Looking" and "charming".
Pedophiles know how to pick and choose their victims. This guy is no different.
So as far as the defense bring these guy in to tell the glory of this guy as a father figure, means NOTHING.
Yes they choose children who are in a challenging home setting, they buddy up to the parents, and unless and until they are convicted, any background check will come back clean...
I don't mean to be cruel to the dead , but doesn't that sound like Michael Jackson?
BANG
Actually, I can imagine Sandusky luring kids with that Father Figure song by George Michael/Wham.
Eeeewww! I Will Be Your Father Figure or I Want Your Sex?
On cross-examination, Rash acknowledged that she had suffered a brain injury in the service and said she couldn't remember where she was deployed.
The defense is trying to dig deep to get to something to use that's for sure.
All the other character witnesses appear to be men older than his MO or women.
What, you couldn't find even one boy to defend him?
Yeah that seems rather iffy to me too. She can't remember where she was deployed but she remembers something that was probably said Offhand (if at all)
I agree with you. They can't find anyone to defend him so they're digging as deep into the manure as they can to find character witnesses. Characters, they are!!! Creditable they are not!
Yeah, it kind of bothers me that the younger character witnesses they introduced were mostly women. I can understand wanting coworkers of Sandusky to testify, but if you want accurate accounts of Sandusky's character while with the kids, you would also want to have some of the younger men who have interacted with him since this case surrounds male children he abused.
Exactly! Where are all of the kids who have come through this progam standing up for what a great guy he is? Even if they were not allowed to speak at trial-why are they not in the media or rallying? Hundreds of kids must have gone through that program and, even though it was for at risk kids, some had to have grown up to be able to say, "I don't think he would do this." or "He was always good to me." Where are they?
I, too, find it interesting that most of the "character witnesses" were female. That should be telling somebody something, particularly about the one that can't even remember where she has been deployed. All the vets I know remember very well where all they've been. Defense is desperate!
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Um. NO.
Hell no...she was found not guilty by a jury of her peers...we shouldn't mess up our entire judicial system to please YOU
youre an idiot and should not have unsupervised access to a computer.
still waiting for Kim K's opinion...before i sign anything...it's the code of the vine...
Um, no! Get over it! She was found not guilty. No matter what you say or do, it isn't going to happen. I agree your computer time should be supervised. This has nothing to do with Casey or Caylee Anthony. Nothing at all! Get a life.
FUTTHESHUCKUP...........I would sooner sign a petition to have the prosecuiting attys disbarred for incompetence ! It was a poorly tried case and she got away with it, but lets not throw out the justice system over it. Feel the same way about Clemens, but that is the way our system works.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! A man who refused to even listen to what was being said againist Sandusky says it all...those poor, poor boys with people like this in their community
It is how pedophiles are able to continue to molest children...they have created the upstanding community leader persona and no one close to them would believe that they're capable of doing such a horrendous thing. A pedophiles victim knows otherwise.
The story about the boys going to their basement bedrooms when Sandusky appeared at the group home is classic. They did NOT want to be around him. It is not the opinions of adults that are indicative of a pedophiles character...but the voices and behaviors of children around them.
Histrionic Personality Disorder my ASS.
How can he explain away following a school bus because he was pissed because one of the boys rode the bus home and he confronted the boy after he got off the bus!! I don't know if that has came out at trial or not. It was in one of the articles on here and there have been so many, it's hard to separate them. Those, to me, are acts of a predator.
He is a serial pedophile! He knows who will make a victim and who won't. Of course he is going to be circumspect to those who are too strong to be groomed for his "use". He is a pervert and if his wife says she did not know what was going on she is a liar. She knows his tendencies! I believe all pedophiles should be put to death!
If the wife says she did not know what was going on she is sick liar. I would have known if my husband had brought home young boys for the weekend and slept with them in the basement. How stupid is this woman that she thinks anybody is stupid enough to believe that!
In a WEAK defense of the wife...she enjoyed the big money and glamour of being the coach's wife. BUT, how could she let this go on that many years???
It never ceases to amaze me how far some women will go to be void of responsibilities and live the life of a spoiled brat.
I can assure you that no woman wants to admit that she fell in love with and married a man who could sexually assault a young boy. I am certain that if she questioned 'Jer'...he had an excuse or story all lined up. After so many questions with 'reasonable' answers...you just don't ask anymore.
I also know a woman who didn't know that her husband of many years assaulted all of their children. She found out after her children left home...they told her.
Dottie knew what was going on, she would have to be a total idiot not to. She just chooses to deny it. She needs to be charged as an accessory!
Maybe she liked it, maybe she was even watching! But even if a sickness explains it, does that make it legal?
Oh skunky? And the actual rapist and pedophile in this case...a man.. isn't going to the extreme to be void of responsibility? It's rather pathetic when a guy like you, who has obviously been rejected (for probably good reason) by women over and over, posts on here...something that really has nothing to do with the article, as a way to lash out at all women. Sad and pathetic and just makes you look petty and juvenile.
Sing it...mama don't know ...what papa don't like in the basement...and the kids just want a be left outside...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWVh0c5-3M&feature=related
Y'know....pedophiles usually seek out jobs or positions that put them in close contact with those they would prey upon - children. They are usually described as 'good guys'
I remember years ago that Howard Stern said that parents should be very suspicious of adults who want to hang out with kids...it is NOT normal...he was right!
Those in his commmunity that think he's an upstanding father figure, don't have children. And i would have serious concerns about leaving him alone with his own Grand children!
This case should wake America up. Check your State on the Statute of Limitation on sexual abuse of a child. Alot of these creeps walk free because of that law. You will find children of a young age will not come forward until a later year. These creeps know this. Do something for these children, get your State to extend the Statue of Limitation. Let's defeat these creeps once and for all and get them locked up where they belong.
Right on deb! I didn't remember abuse that started very young until I was 21.
what the hell are wrong with these people siding with this scumbag,it's obvious this guy did what these victims are saying,how do you make these stories up..........hang him !
He chose the weak and lonely of the group and preyed on them.
The athletes that say he was a class act were confident and came from secure homes...they were kids. They did not suspect any foul play because he did not choose them.
cms5--That woman you know whose children were all abused and told her as adults had to know something was going on. There are no family secrets. She had to have some unease and discomfort around that abuse.
Whoever said Sandusky was a father figure had a very different relationship with their father than I had with mine. In fact, I never remember sodomy with my old man, not even a little bit.
In my world it's called incest.
He's a savage and should be put in the ocean with an anchor around his neck.
Class Act????!!!!! Try Rapist
"father figure"????? maybe in the backwoods of Tennessee.
"he has a mental problem" - no kidding! Lock him up and throw away the keys, and his wife too!
Jean, not even in the backwoods of Tennessee. Child Molestation happens in every state and every city. You will always have men who prey on children. I happen to know people who grew up in East Tennessee and they are fine people who are no more prone to molest children than you or I would be. I do wish people would stop using my state as an example of all that is bad. If you could stoop low enough to visit the state, you might find that most of us are very well educated, descent God fearing people. The South is no more prone to do somthing like this than any other state would be. It happens everywhere, even in Pennsylvania and Washington D.C. We aren't all hillbilly hicks. Get off your high horse and quit thinking you are so superior to the rest of us.
well educated, descent God fearing people.......Are you well educated? or descent God...somthing not more prone to the south. Sorry, time for me to dis-mount.
Well, in the backwoods of Tennessee, there aren't a lot of people around, so I suspect I may be more likely for such a thing to occur there. Plus, a lot of stuff did happen in the south.
FLORIDA. There. I said it. nflames, you in the South a lot to see all this happening? You wouldn't know what backwoods were if you were left there. More decent people there than in big cities.
In the backwoods, you can get away with more because there are less people around. I have heard a lot of stories about what has gone on in backwoods areas and witnessed it myself. Lots of criminals hang out in the woods where they can't be found.
May all of those elites standing by the pervert have themselves and their molested as he did since that is their focus and not what he has done... Disgusting..."father figure" yet they know for fact his EVIL acts. What a society we have...stand by your DEVIL..all the way up to the White House with its 102 Un Cons titutional Socialist CZARs.
Everyone knows we are our true self when we think no one is looking. Sad, but true.
Sandusky's so called character witness (and of course they would think him a "nice guy" "pillar of the community", etc., as that is part of the grooming process - groom other adults to think you are doing things for the betterment of the child/children. They also left Penn State open for a HUGE settlement as the first two char witnes said they also showered with young boys (what coach does that? I never heard of it) and the one said he even showers with his granddaughter. My god! Think of it, a grown man naked and a young girl staring and asking what's that. That question needs to be answered by that child's parents not a grandparent. I've heard of grandparents abusing their own grandchildren. This whole thing is just too, too bizarre! How can 8 victims all be lying? My money goes to they are not lying.
NONE of the coaches in our school would ever shower with the players.
I did not know of the witness that showers with his granddaughter> What the hell? To me that is a destructive witness. Where are the morals in this country?
Grandpa, how come you have a wrinkled turkey neck hanging below your belly button?
Crazy crazy . Look at the college that tried to sweep this under the carpet . The one coach waits untill the next day to tell the dean of the school . Not to bad why did he not call right then and their . Shower is crazy to . Could is a matter of interpertation . Lots of locker rooms whith men and young men showering . Middle school athletics department , high school and college .
I think Sandusky was getting ready to "spill the beans" regarding unknown irregularities in addition to the pedophilia that is why he is in trouble. I hope he gets 1000 years and Pedo State is forever barred from any type of NCAA activities.
Unfortunately for the world, real evil does exist and may come in the form of a priest, boy scout leader, football coach, etc. If Sandusky is found guilty, and I believe he is, then I would like to see him put in a prison setting for the rest of his life where he experiences, on a daily-basis, all of the horrendous, deviant, sexual abuse he forced upon all those youngsters.
I hope he gets to shower naked with some of the younger inmates.
so does he..................
He needed sexually immature little boys in order to feel like a stud. He isn't going to like being dominated by adult males.
tjc now adays they keep the perverts out of general population. it seems they dont last long there. btw i am an ex also
I don't care WHAT he did for the community. I don't care HOW great a coach he was. I don't care WHO else he helped. I don't care HOW much of a nice guy or a "father figure" he appeared to be. The question is, did he rape those kids? Everything else is irrelevant.
"Am I sexually attracted to children............ahhhh........sexually attracted......................................................................................................"
Creepest interview of all time. Case closed. Anyone who has to think whether or not they are sexually attracted to a child is obviously sexually attracted. You would have thought his lawyer would prep him enough to know whether or not he is sexually attracted to children.
It's like asking your kid "Did you just hit your sister" and he answers "Did I just hit my sister.................my sister............................no I didn't hit her, I might have just bumped into her and she misinterperted".
When someone asks you if you are attracted to someone, you know they mean in a romantic way. No one say they are attracted to someone in some other manner like he claims. That's just as creepy as saying you are attracted to your mother, not in that way but a loving way.
Creepy.
I don't think it matters whether he is attracted to them or not, his behavior is still creepy.
"all of whom described Sandusky as a good and caring man with a stellar reputation in the community", except for those that were abused by Sandusky.
This guy just doesn't understand.
Send him where he belongs.