I hope their parents are too ashamed to show their faces as well. Not only are their kids lower than scum, but they are dumb as rocks too thinking they would look cool after posting the video on YouTube. Oops, plan backfired I guess. But mom and dad will probably defend their behavior.

If it were my kid I would send him to military school right away. Let a drill sergeant show him what humiliation is. If I had a girl, same thing. Where do you think those kids they learn to be so disrespectful?

1. Permanent expulsion from bus transportation.

2. 100 hours of community service in working with PEOPLE, none of this raking up leaves crap or picking up garbage on the side of the road or working with animals and cleaning kitten cages. i'm talking like volunteering in nursing homes, or tutoring after school or working with ADULTS.

3. Harassment charges on all children involved.

4. Both public and private apologies. Public - for humiliation and repayment to the public for having such an attitude. Private - so that it is meaningful and acceptable to Ms. Klein.

5. 10 days minimum out-of-school suspension.

As a teenager I feel that the best way to deal with these pukes is to sign em up for a military boarding school with an @!$%# for a commander, and then post every video you can of them crying because their mommies aren't there to hold there hands. see how tough they feel then

Dude, they weren't just criticising her, they were talking about going to her house, killing her, beating her up, etc. Nevermind the fact that what they said was vile, but the threats are enough to qualify for legal action (and she should take it).

If these were adults, they'd be at the station by now.

hey mike, do you realize what youre saying? if some clowns commit a crime, you should give in and leave? so if you get mugged on a subway, you should quit taking the subway? if you get raped at a bar, you should quit going to bars? if you get shot at the supermarket, you should quit eating? tell you what, mike, how bout some relatives of hers knock all their teeth out, and then she can bring a couple of bouncers with her on the bus to make fun of how they look with no teeth. then if they dont like getting teased, they can kill themselves by taking the overdose of sleeping pills they found shoved up their rectum.

Mike - did you watch the video? This was way beyond criticism. They took bullying to a whole new level. The things being said to her was so disturbing on so many levels. The only other articles I've read that angered me to this level involve child abuse.

She shouldn't have to leave her job because of disrespectful, and probably future juvenile delinquents! It may not pay the best but it's what she's been doing for years and there may not be that many jobs in her area that she's qualified to do.

If I ever heard someone addressing anyone in the manner these kids did to this lady I would be in jail myself! Parents need to be held accountable for the actions of their children as well. Just simply removing them from riding the bus is not going to fix their attitudes. I'm not sure what discipline is really fit for these kids. But they need more than just being suspended and not allowed to ride the bus.

I am married to a school bus driver, and have driven a school bus off and on over the years. In general, it is a profession that requires discipline and restraint. A monitor is usually placed on a bus when the passengers have proven to be too much for the driver to handle. That being said, the driver is the captain of that vehicle, and the one in final control. The driver should have known what the situation was, and pulled the bus over. Further, if these kids had proven to be an unruly bunch (and all evidence points to that) a male security guard should have been placed on the bus. Too often school districts and private bus companies who sub-contract transportation for school districts try to cut costs by putting retirees and untrained personnel in monitor positions. The thinking is that matronly monitors will command more respect and not escalate these situations like a male would. Obviously in this case that proved to be false.

In a school that takes charge (like where my daughter went to school), there would be immediate suspension from school, and removal from transportation for the school year. Nothing motivates a parent to discipline their child like having to drive them to and from school every day. The first impulse of everyone who sees this video is revulsion and a feeling of violence toward these kids. That's understandable, but it also teaches them that violence in the correct response to violence. I think by this time--from all I've read about responses to the video--every one of these kids is beginning to realize that they screwed up--BIG TIME. They're embarrassed themselves, their school district, their families, and even their city. Nice job, guys. Now you know what if feels like to be bullied. How do you like it? Not so nice, huh?

See folks what public school employees have to deal with! You are on a witch hunt with teachers because some Republicans told you we are evil. Look what we have to deal with every day!! God forbid teachers make a living and get a retirement!!!! One of the news reporters said maybe the school can use it for a teaching moment?? Holy Lord put that on the list of a million things we have to do!!!! Crucify the parents for a change would you???

These kids should be permanently expelled from school. They should then be given three options: 1. The Belt, 2. The Paddle or 3. The Hand. Maybe a little old school discipline is what they need.

I like the military boarding school idea.

I guess now i have seen everything. Kids who could be this cruel without ANY compassion or remorse . . . is there any hope? Whatever their punishment is, there had better be strong, powerful people supervising. This is simply unbelievable. The words were terrible, but you DO NOT TOUCH another human being! And the bus monitor was calm and maintained her cool. I admire her for that. Sorry to say, if it had been me, there probably would have been some bottoms spanked (one way or the other!) and/or bitch-slapping She deserves whatever vacation she wants.

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If they were my kids/grandkids, I would have wooped their butts good, taken their phone away, grounded them, and then invited that woman over to sit on their faces. Cured of being a dumb a$$ little puck.

The parents better hope that woman doesn't sue. She has all the evidence needed. Mental anguish, public humiliation, harassment, defamation of ....oh wait. She was fat....

Punk ass kids is right!!! I watched the video and these little punks are in need of some major discipline! Kids today have lost all respect for each other and adults. No wonder our country is going to hell fast........

Lolly1192 - do you have trouble reading? The video was uploaded by a student who is always nice to the bus monitor. It was not uploaded by one of the heckling students.

Actually, there are two other videos that this punk put on the internet. He claims all he did was film, I call BS, in one of them you can clearly hear him tormenting this woman... These punks deserve whatever they have coming to them and their parents are absolutely disgustig human beings! If my child was one of these creatures I would have already called for a press conference and made them apologize on national television. Of course, people who raise narcissistic children like this are probably equally as bad... I am so glad to se that the fundraiser has already raised nearly $140k so this woman can retire and never ever have to be subjected to this type of humiliation... Ha ha you little punks, who is poor now?

Those delinquents should spend a year in juvenile detention. And kudos to all those who donated to send this girl on a dream vacation!

See folks what public school employees have to deal with! You are on a witch hunt with teachers because some Republicans told you we are evil.

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Why do people need to bring their retarded politics into this?

Dear Mrs. Klein,

Please, get right back on that bus, especially with those kids that behaved so terribly. Show them that they did not really hurt you in the long run. They are the cowards and you showing up will teach them exactly that. Show up, be professional, great them nicely and just be the kind woman that you are. You can't allow them a single molecule of victory.

Dear parents of those kids,

Wow, I bet you're wondering where you went wrong. Nobody here can tell you want to do, and they should not. But if my kids did that, I would make them do two things: First, read an apology to that kind woman in front of the entire school. Then they will spend the entire summer mowing the lawn, painting her home or some similar services for that woman.

Mrs. Klein's wounds will recover quickly but my "apparently brain damaged kid" needs to learn a very hard lesson. His punishment will be as ruthless as it will be efficient.

John-1111,

What does your statement "You are on a witch hunt with teachers because some Republicans told you we are evil." have to do with this article? Furthermore, what the heck does the reference to Republicans have to do with this article?

Political statements such as yours are at best, the result of no thought process.

Lynn G,

" Kids who could be this cruel without ANY compassion or remorse...". Oh yes they can be this way!

FIRST PUNISH THE KIDS THEN THE PARENTS AND THEN "TRY" TO EDUCATE THEM ALL.

ALL people involved in this KNOW the bulling problems and clearly don't give a 5hit. So lets send her on vacation?

The headlines should read.

ALL CHILDREN INVOLVED NOW SERVING 200 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE IN THEIR NEIGHBORS.

I'm glad the kids posted it online,otherwise there would be no evidence and the poor woman would always be tormented,at least now they can put a stop to it for her sake and peace of mind.

but it also teaches them that violence in the correct response to violence

There are many situations where violence happens, and violence is not the proper response. Unfortunately, there are situations where violence happens, and the only way to stop it is with the use of violence. Pain is a strong motivating force.

They should have been given corporal punishment, and that punishment should have been posted to Youtube, and their crying faces put into a close up shot for all to see. I think you wouldn't have to worry about disrespectful behavior again..

I'm glad the kids posted it online,otherwise there would be no evidence and the poor woman would always be tormented,at least now they can put a stop to it for her sake and peace of mind.

If the school does not take proactive action to stop that abuse, she can sue the school for hostile work environment. Them knowing about it, and not doing something about it, is enough to bring suit.

These little animals need to be prosecuted and sent to juvenile detention. Their parents may are may not have a hand in this disgusting behavior, if during the investigation they are found to somehow contributed to this behavior then they also should be fined and charged with neglect. That being said, believe me when I say that I see parents everyday who are at the end of their rope and have done every thing possible short of giving them up to the child disciplinary services to try to teach their children right from wrong. However this is almost a loosing battle as the rights of parents are being eroded by the very system which when the children become so destructive and disobedient that even they cannot control them anymore. They use corporal punishment as a last resort in disiplining their child and when they get to school they tell the officials they have been abused and then child protective services have you arrested. As far as I am concerned I have witnessed a parent using the so called time out and the children laugh at it, then they have their games and other things taken away from them and because of what theyhave watched on the television these days they become so angry and violent that they actually scare the parents into submission. I believe that until the system takes away the attempted parenting from the schools and return them back to the parents with certain assurances that baring severe physical or emotional abuse they will not be interfered with this will get worse. The public school has become a breeding ground for delinquent children, instead of teaching them the skills that they will need in the work area they teach them sex education or painting or dancing and many other things that should be taught to then by their parents or areas potside of the school and these kids leave schools without knowing how to read and write. Do a video and ask these kids simple questions that they should know such as who is the President and the Vice President or recite the Declaration of Independence of which I had to memorise when I was in the sixth grade. Of course I am kidding about who the President is because every child from kinder garden is indoctrinated as to who this is now and especially i the public schools, its almost if he is a god or something. But ask them who the President or Vice President was before that or before that and you will be shocked as to their answers. I am very discouraged about the future of this country just because the ones who are listening and learning on their own will one day grow up to become the leaders and my feeling is that their frame of mind will not be justice for all but for enslavement and power. Their are only two people left in this country now, the rich and the poor and when this happens it becomes a event for anarchy and violence.

This has been going on forever to all the kids who do not fit in and no one in the school system chooses to address it.

I am glad this adult gets a free vacation out of it but think of all the kids who are not adults that have to put up with this. She was an adult and they broke her - she couldn't handle it - she cried. She was a mature individual with a lifetime of experience to draw from and she couldn't cope with this!

What chance does a good kid have in these Gladiator Acadamies?

Ever wonder why kids joke and call school "prison" - because it's not that different.

"Social Ettiqute" should be taught in schools and in prisons and if you don't pass - you either go to summer school or you don't get out of prison. There is enough trash on the street!

My advise to her is to find a new job......

Sincerely,

Mike-expecting to be collapsed.

Mike, my father always used to tell me "it's not what you say, it's the way you say it".

You're probably not wrong. She seems like a VERY nice lady in a job where it helps very much to be a Certified A**hole. However you really could have said it a bit more tactfully.

This is how kids behave when there is no fear of retribution. I used to think home schooling was only for religious fanatics until I overheard some "conversations" going on at the bus stop. You can't shield your kids from the world but you can reduce the amount of unnecessary trauma. My youngest is almost through high school. We chose an online alternative high school for her senior year. I'd think twice before sending my kids in with the general population if they were just starting out.

And imagine what life is like for kids in middle school if this is how adults are treated. Bullying literally kills.

K, your kid would not be one of the kids who were harassing her in the first place.

Tina, exactly my thoughts. I too thought at first "if that was one of my kids..." but then quickly realized that I don't have any fear of that being one of my kids. My kids are the ones that stood up to kids 4-5 years older the them at the Cincinnati Zoo for picking on mentally handicapped children.

It's not surprising to find so many kids have no respect for others. Look at the behavior of so many adults in our country today. How often do you hear someone say "He/she has to earn my respect." Wrong, people. As humans we should respect everyone else who shares our planet, even if we disagree with them. Sure, someone can (and has) lose the respect of others, but the starting point of any contact with another person should be mutual respect. Otherwise, if you decide people must "earn" your respect, you immediately have established yourself as the deciding judge of others. Do you think everyone must live up to your standards? If yes, I feel very sorry for you and your little closed mind. Let's encourage kids to take a positive interest in others.

MNPat: I agree! I've heard others say "respect must be earned." Baloney! I respect all -- including Mother Earth. I may not agree with others and may chose to avoid some--but I respect everyone--starting with myself.

What and MNPat - I agree with you both in part, but disagree in part. I think people often confuse the term "respect" with "honor". Certain kinds of honorific respect, such as leadership respect and role model respect, definitely needs to be earned. The saying "respect needs to be earned" in those circumstances provides an incentive to work hard and act appropriately to obtain the goal of earning such honorific respect from those around you. However, there is also civility respect, which is something that should be automatic and in the forefront of every human interaction you have. That is the problem with many people - an utter lack of civility respect. They misunderstand and misapply the "earned" phrase and use it as an excuse to not have to be civil to others and to act in any manner they please. This is a huge problem in our society (ex: road rage, blog trolling, public insults, swearing and cursing in public, increasing vitriol in politics, selfishness, lack of altruism, etc.). These kids are exactly what Matt called them - monsters. However, they didn't become monsters on their own. They learned this behavior from their parents, who also failed to teach them the basics of civility respect. Unfortunately, I think we are going to see an entire generation of these monsters grow up into adults with equally little civility respect for others. I can only hope that this story and the videos are used by other parents as a turning point towards greater civility.

Here is what I propose for everyone reading these boards today - go out and do three nice things to three people today, say something nice, help someone out, or just be extra kind, thankful, and polite to people you encounter. Who knows, maybe they will pass it on and we will start something...

My thoughts were what if this was my Mother or Grandmother being abused like this. The very thought of this happening to my loved one made my blood boil, my thoughts were to severly slap them around but then my sanity returned and I wondered what type of home that they were living in that they would not fear the punishment associated with their actions. This video should be doctored with the images of each of these childrens Parents and Grandparents replaced in them and the kids should be made to watch. Old fashioned punishment is the answer to a child who rebels against their peers. The raising of children has to be left to the parents and when they cannot handle them then they need to bite the bullet and turn them over to the authorities. The schools should butt out of trying to be these childrens parents. The 60s generation is the cause of this with their free love and their drug use and their rebellion against God first and then society. This is now coming back to bite them in the rear. What the h*ll, its over now and you cannot change what is happening in this country and I cannot help but believe the worse is yet to come. Racism is now reversed, its the blacks who are now more racist than the whites, not that its right or wrong just that it is the way it is, but the problem is when they do that they are changing all the advances they have made. Martin Luther King would be the first to tell you that you cannot overcome hate with hate or racism with racism. As a Christian I trully believe that until we as a nation return to the teaching's of God and his Son Jesus Christ that this country will fall sooner than it is prophised in the Book of the Revelations. The teaching of evolution was the beginning of the destruction of mankind, you cannot tell a human being that he evolved from a animal and not expect them to act like a animal. When you tell a child that they are special and they are a created being and that they were wonderfully made in the image of a supreme being they then realise that they are special and will act accordingly. You cannot murder millions of unborn babies and then go home and when your child asks you what do you do daddy or mommy and tell your child that you have been at work today and killed unborn children, you cannot accept the immorality of homosexuality and teach your children that this is an acceptable way of life and expect them to get married with one of the opposite sex and give you grandchildren. I am so sick of the people in this country who stand up and proclaim to be a Christian and then allow this insanity to go on, why do you not admit that you are a child of satan and stop being a hippocrit. You would fair better with God than to straddle the fence and lead his children astray with your false living, or even better go, look at yourself in the mirror and realise that what you are doing is wrong and repent and if you are in the position of being able to do something about it then do it. I admit I am a sinner and I have to confess my sins to God evey day but I do not leave out in the morning knowing that I will today murder one of his creations, a beautiful child. I will not leave work in the evening knowing that at some point I will go against not only sinning against God but against nature itself by commiting the abomination of homosexuality. You can spin these evil acts any way you want but you cannot commit them and expect your children to live like a human being and not as a animal.

coleslaw1,

Your attempt to parse "respect" into politeness and honor allows you to justify the attitude that a person needs to earn respect from others. I agree that we should be civil to others, but being nice to others doesn't bestow on that person an equal status in your mind, should you choose to consider yourself superior. I'm nice - civil - to friends' pets, but that doesn't mean I respect them, or consider them my equal as living beings.

Again, I sincerely believe we all need to bestow respect unconditionally to all other human beings. If their actions later cause that respect to be lost, it's not because my initial judgement was that they were inferior to me due to some standards I've imposed on them.

What is wrong with those kids?

Look at the parents.

Why Tina? Is EVERY bad thing that a kid goes the parents' fault? Every time a kid does something wrong, it's 100% because of how they were raised, right?

Get a clue. Kids do things like this to be funny in front of their friends and to fit in. They don't treat people like @!$%# because their parents taught them to, that's not usually how it works.

Kids do this to be funny in front of their friends but when a camera is involved and there's a possibility of their parents seeing their actions, the kids who know their parents won't care or will defend their vile actions are the ones who keep going. So maybe not in all cases, but yeah, it's the parents' fault.

No Ryan. Kids do these things because their PARENTS haven't taught them to be repectful of other people, especially elders. It hasn't been stressed enough. You see, inside they are missing the moral compass that tells them, "Tthis is wrong-very wrong, and I just can't participate. It is not right." It hasn't been hounded into them. Now, it is too late for them. They will remain this way for the rest of their lives and no amount of community service, screaming, or belt-threatening discipline will change the way they treat other people. I've written them off. Bunch of disrespectful, hateful, mean, little brats.

This is why you can throw all the money in the world at public schools and it won't solve any problems. Imagine how much fun it is to teach these little charmers all day while everybody says that your job is easy and requires no real work?

No, Ryan, not every bad thing that a kid does is the parents' fault.
But I find it very hard to believe that a child raised in a home with love and respect would ever participate in something like this.

They should be in juvenile detention.

Not enough. If this were my kid, he'd be mowing this woman's yard for the next year.

Can't do that, Jack. They'd "piss on her door or egg her house" every week. They will learn nothing. Especially now that they are famous at school.

If they were making physical threats then that IS grounds for expulsion. Most schools have a zero tolerance for violence policy. Plus the monitor could possibly press charges.

The kids dont understand that the monitor is there to protect them. It is the monitors responsibility to be present to hopefully prevent kids from bullying other kids, or make sure the bus driver is safely getting the kids to where they need to go, and to do anything else necessary for the health and well being of the kids.

If I had a dog that bit me every time I fed it, I wonder what I'd do to that dog?

She probably is SOMEONES grandmother.

Honestly you just insulted alot of people who depend on "low income housing". Not all low income (or even high income) kids act like idiots.

I stand by my comment. Being in the Rochester area, I know the area well. I have also encountered children like this in several of my professional roles. Statistics, test scores, crime data, and now this incident are enough to back up my unbiased and informed opinion. I will concede that not ALL of any socio-economic demographic exhibits this behavior exclusively. Children who are respected & taught to respect learn to respect.

There was no girl in this video. All of the hecklers involved were boys.

Why would you single out "the girl" in a group? Just because you thought it was a girl? What is wrong with you?

One problem is that Child Protective Services agencies make parents afraid to discipline their kids. No spanking. No going to bed without supper. Anything more than a time out and the kids could end up in foster care.

Could not agree more Kevin.

Kids who come from homes in which love, respect and tolerance are taught do not do such things.

So to the people who are saying "If my kid did this, s/he would be severely punished" I say: Your kid would probably not do it in the first place.

It is generally the parents who don't give a damn whose kids do things like this.

Kevin,

You are correct that the laws and behaviors of our government and its cohorts contribute to this condition but that's no reason to absolve the parents from blame. In fact, the root cause of some of those laws was probably ... well, you get my point. In this case, let's put the blame where it belongs, with the kids and their parents.

Kevin,

I agree. I'm not one for violence. But watching this video, and I could not watch it all, makes me consider it. What decent person can sit and watch this and not have their blood boil? Logically, smacking my kid around would be the wrong message, so that's off the table. But as a normal human being, as Bill Cosby said it "The beatings will now begin!"

Kevin-186,

Unfortunately agencies like Child Protective Services were created because parents would go way beyond the level of physical punishment necessary to disipline a child. The flip side of this is parents and society treating children with kid gloves and these kids know it. I don't have a solution for this but I do know that a talking to by my fathers' belt sure worked.

My kids were raised in a home with love, tolerance and respect. It doesn't stop them from occasionally bowing to peer pressure or making mistakes contrary to how they were raised.

Depending on how much press coverage this story gets we will find out what kind of parents these kids have based on their actions to this story.

You should have finished the video. It just got better and better. I'll fill you in. The insults kept coming and soon morphed into violent threats by the boys. Real classy. Usesless runts.

I'm glad you quit thinking you were the bad one. I was not really bullied, but I was ostracized by the kids in school, because I was so shy. A friend of mine was actually bullied because of her appearance.

Even that had an effect on me, so I can only imagine what you went through.

Saraaaaa -- Same thing happened to me in what was then called junior high school, and it has colored every aspect of my life since. Maybe these kids who so viciously abused Ms. Klein should get a taste of their own medicine for a few years, and see how they feel about things afterwards.

It happened to me too. Fattest kid in the class all twelve years. Shy, quiet, introverted.

God news! Today, I hate everyone!!!!!

Mike - your idea seems perfect

But let me turn your idea on its head - What if...

These boys grew up and got the jobs of the people who decided who will be sterilized and who will have forced abortions? The world would be filled with bubble headed hard-bodied beach bunnies and wanna be gansta pimps.

I think you will want to carry a cyanide pill with you in case they all come after you - you are probably too good and normal.

Protecting the rights of all to be free - even the idiots - protects the rest of us too.

What is the parents' take?
"MY kid would never do anything like that."

At least until they saw the video.

there was not one brave soul on that bus that said anything

They were kids who were probably bullied by the same people, who knew they'd receive the same treatment if they stood up to them.