Three separate videos totaling 14 minutes taken during a school bus ride just outside Rochester, N.Y., show middle schoolers taunting a bus monitor until she cries, prompting questions about kids and civility. NBC's Craig Melvin reports, and bus monitor Karen Klein talks with TODAY's Matt Lauer about the cruel harassment.
Updated 10:30 a.m. Thursday ET: Karen Klein, a school bus monitor of Greece, N.Y., depicted being verbally bullied in a video gone viral, may have the last laugh.
By mid-morning Thursday on the fund-raising site indiegogo.com, nearly 8,000 donors had pledged more than $150,000 in a campaign called “Lets Give Karen – The bus monitor – H Klein A Vacation.”
The fund-raising was set up through a reddit.com member, identified as Max Sidorov of Toronto, Canada.
An Indiegogo spokesperson told msnbc.com that the website was in touch with Klein, who will receive all the money raised through its site when the campaign is over, scheduled July 20.
Karen Klein talks to Matt Lauer on TODAY
A video called "Making the Bus Monitor Cry" was posted to YouTube on Monday and had been seen by more than 100,000 viewers by Wednesday evening. The video shows students yelling at Klein and making fun of her weight and other physical conditions.
Graphic content warning: The video on YouTube
NBC television station WHEC of Rochester, N.Y., on Wednesday confirmed with the Greece School District that Klein was the subject of the middle school students’ heckling.
An outpouring of support for Klein emerged after her identity became known.
While WHEC was interviewing Klein, the station reported, people were stopping over and flowers were being delivered.
Klein said she still can’t believe this happened. The video was taken by a student who is always very kind to her, she said.
“It’s just plain mean, and no one should have to live with that,” she said.
In her 20-plus years as a bus driver and monitor with the Greece Central Schools, Klein said she has never run into this kind of behavior.
See the original story at WHEC.com
“Everything started out as usual. I don’t know what happened,” she said.
Klein said the four kids in the video often misbehave, but what happened Monday was taking things to a whole new level.
Greece police and school district officials are investigating three videos, including the one titled "Making the Bus Monitor Cry."
NBC affiliate WHEC talks to bus monitor Karen Klein, who was verbally abused by a group of middle school students on a school bus.
Debra Hoeft, Greece School District, said, “We do not tolerate harassment of staff or students. While we can not comment on specific student discipline, we can say that students found to be involved will face strong disciplinary actions.”
In one of the videos, the kids are calling her names, swearing at her and even making physical threats. Klein doesn’t say much to the middle schoolers.
“I was trying to just ignore,” Klein said. “I’m hoping they would go away, but it doesn’t work.”
Klein said she didn’t know about the video until Wednesday morning, and watched it for the first time at the police station when she went to help them with their investigation.
Klein told WHEC she plans to return to work but not on a bus carrying those students.
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Wait a minute. This woman was hired to monitor the behavior on the bus. She was not hired to just take a bus ride. I would assume that she had job responsibilities and those responsibilities should have included maintaining control on the bus. She is either incapable of performing her job or was not performing her job. There apparently was trouble in the past and she should have dealt with it. She could have reported the kids and had them removed from the bus before it got to this point. She could have separated the kids from each other. It looks like she just sat there and did nothing. Now, this does not excuse the behavior of these little creeps, but she was hired to make sure that the little creeps didn't cause trouble on the bus.
Nancy,
I really hate to agree with you and I really feel bad for her, but this woman was hired to be a monitor to deal with problems so that the driver doesn't have to be distracted. I am in no way excusing their behavior as it is abhorrent and they should be expelled from school along with being held accountable for the threats that they made to her. The thing is that if she cannot stand up for herself against these little bas****s how is she going to stand up for the children on the bus? What good are you if you are just going to sit there and do absolutely nothing? Some of these kids may have been bullied by these boys and now that they have seen them tear this woman apart they are going to feel that not even an adult can help them.
In my lifetime, I have never met a bully that didn't back down when I stood up to them and I have been called all kinds of names, I have been attacked and I have been threatened numerous times (including by a step parent of a friend that was being abused) and am still being threatened by a high school bully (over 35 years later) who didn't like when I stood up to her whenever she was bullying her sister. I still stand up for people that are being bullied or abused. I will never turn a blind eye to that. I taught my children that if I ever caught them bullying anyone they would have to deal with me.
I know words can hurt and I know that not everybody can be strong but if you are going to work in a position like that you need to be strong. You can't show any weakness to these kids because they will pounce on it. You have to show them that you are in control.
I'm sure when they get older they can use the BS of... I don't remember doing that! Back in middle school I just did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended by it, obviously I apologize. I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during school and some might have gone too far and for that, I apologize. I'm sure they will be able to explain their actions away with that plea if ignorance.
Of course kids can be very mean. Especially these days. Normally -- it's just to each other and usually they've been smart enough to not have it recorded or on camera and then act like they are the ones being bullied so that the whole story doesn't come out. They're online all of the time where it's a world with NO boundaries and rarely monitored closely, consistantly by a parent/guardian. This was an eventuality that they would see no boundaries of behavior between kids and adults. Punks. Had the same been done to them, the outcry would have been vicious and splattered all over the news and not muted like this was for so long.
I watched another interview about this on CBS and this woman said the worse thing that these kids said to her, that really really bothered her was-They said something to the effect that her children probably will kill themselves to just get away from her, and what they did not know (course they probably would not care) is that (I believe)her son had commited suicide. I was not able to watch more than 3 minutes of the video cause it made me so mad and it brought me to tears just watching what this woman had to go thru. These kids need to be punished, expelled from the bus for the upcoming school year and needs to make a public apology to her. Parents need to wake up and start teaching their kids how to be respectful to everyone!
One of the kid's father has come forward and said that what his son did was reprehensible and there was no reason or excuse for his son's actions and that he has already punished the boy. Good for him. I wonder if these kids would have acted this way as individuals,I think not, it is the peer pressure kids this age get from the "leader" bully.
I told my kids early on that if ANY adult contacts me about their behavior, they will be presumed GUILTY....for which they would have to prove their innocence. My kids are now in their 20's and are very pleased that they received fair and loving parenting that included consequences for unacceptable actions. These consequences included shutting off the internet, surrendering prized possessions such as cell phones, taking away keys to the car I always owned, not being with friends or going on outings - any and everything that meant anything to them. Rules of acceptable behavior are very hard to enforce but I would rather be the one than leaving it up to my kids' potential employer or law enforcement personnel at the very worse!
I'm relieved by the outpouring of support for her! That idiot "Mike's" comment above must have been one of the PUNKS on that bus. What a LOSER! As far as the kids involved, permanent bus expulsion and supervised community service for not just the rest of the summer--but for an entire year with no 'forgiveness' of sentence for 'good behavior.'
If any one of those kids were mine, they would be sore, their mouths washed out with soap and no cell phones, internet or TV until they were 18 and could pay the bills entirely on their own.
Little PUNKS. And I'm sure you look at their parents and their all fowl-mouthed losers too.
We saw this adult bullied and vistimized, now try to imagine what bullied children are going through. Stop and think about the children that are driven to suicide through such constant torment. What are you willing to do to help them?
We've seen how adults can be bullied and victimized. Horrible. Now what about the children that are bullied to the point of suicide? What are you willing to do to help those children tormented daily?
Its New York what else do you expect?
When the government took our RIGHTS n said it's child abuse when we spank our kids..this is what u get disrespectful children that dnt fear or RESPECT any1 or anything!! Take it back to the old days when parents were aloud to discipline their children without the threat of cys...If a child doesn't have to respect his/her parents do u really think they're going to respect anyone else? This video really saddens me...it's terrible, it also angered me! My mother tore our butts up when we did wrong and it wasn't abuse....we weren't affraid of HER we were affraid of the CONSEQUENSES if we were caught! We had RESPECT.....we loved,trusted, n respected our mom and we respect our elders til this very day....even tho my mom has past!! I feel those children should be punished and made a example of CONSEQUENSES!!! Would they treat their GRANDMOTHER that way or let anyone else disrespect her.There is a BIG difference between discipline and ABUSE! I bet if we go back to old school discipline we wouldn't have all this going on with young people and our JAILS wouldn't be over populated....They do these things while young with no consequense then they grow up in get put n jail for aggravated assault or even murder!! Children NEED DISCIPLINE!!
I was not surprised by what these kids were saying. I was hired this this year as a bus monitor for my kids bus after my 2 kids were coming home and reporting to me all the problems that were going on. When I got on the bus there were certain kids calling me racist names and really giving me a run for my money. I did not take any of it personally, I would call and report what was going on as soon as I got off the bus, I also would talk to the parent or caregiver if they were meeting the child at the bus. If kids would not sit in there seat before we left the school we would not leave and I would go get the principal or if we were on the road and kids were not sitting in their seat I would have the bus driver pull over and not move the bus until everyone was seated and quiet. I also changed the seating arrangement on the bus many times. If the kids did not like it then they would have to talk to the principal. It got a lot better, some kids left the school, and others changed because they needed that discipline. I also made sure I checked in with my kids and talked with them. I love my bus kids and know they will do well.
This is nothing that a good ass whoppin wouldn't solve. And now, the whole world knows what bad parenting can do. My parents dared me to disrepect ANY ADULT OVERSEER or else! And I, to this day, will not disrespect my older generation.
I hope those little monsters drop dead and make the world a better place. They are beyond redemption and will inflict pain and suffering on others the rest of their lives.
At some point in the future one of them will commit a greater atrocity and people will then be saying "We got the warning sign back in 2012 that this was a bad seed, but we didn't take action until it was too late."
All I have to say is God bless you Karen. The video made me sob at the pure evilness of those little boys..I pray for only good things to come in your life.
We as adults and parents need to rise up and quit coddling our children. I was raised to respect my elders, use my manners and speak out of kindness. And when I couldn't find any kindness, I just wouldn't speak.
I hope those boys are disciplined fully. This is just another example how our youth need Jesus. This is a prime example how the devil can intertwine in our lives. That video was pure evilness and hatred.
God bless you Karen. And love to you!
Exactly Brandy! If more parents taught their children respect for others instead of "its all about me" the world would be a much better place! If kids were actually afraid of the consequences of their wrong actions this stuff would stop!
We as a nation and world need to go back to our roots and teach the basics about respect, truth, honesty and religion!
I praise Karen for her strong will to NOT react to these children - had it been me I don't think I would have shown the same restraint. Had she reacted I'm sure people would be on here bashing her for "child abuse"!
The parents of these children should be disciplined.
The damn government needs to let parents discipline their children. This behavior would of got My face smacked. Punish the kids along with their parents. Parents need to take the time out to raise their children properly and with discipline. Children act like animals these days because parents and teachers and monitors can not discipline them so they do not want to act like animals again
Let's think about this the next time someone starts going off about how "fat people" have no self control and their fat is just evidence of their overall worthlessness as human beings. Let's think about this when someone starts talking about how some actress is "starting to look old". "The parents" are by FAR not the only people that taught these junior monsters that anyone who does not look like a model deserves ridicule, even abuse. Maybe we ought to think less about the horrors of "sugary drinks" and more about what this type of thinking is doing to everyone, young and not so young alike.
mike s is probably a bully himself back in his days. you think it is just easy for her to quit her job and find another one? whatever dude. i was bullied from elementary to high school and it affected my self esteem. i grew up not liking myself. it ruined my social skills. stupid high school kids would taunt me and tell me i should do a world a favor by killing myself because i was ugly. every day, i would hear them say, "oh look, freddi kueger is here." i got so depressed that i didn't want to live anymore. i really hope that those kids are punished. the lady didn't deserve to be treated like that. i do hope their parents will do something about it. i actually cried watching this video.
I believe and live my life believing that, since we're all the same people living on this big rock day-to-day, going thru the same "crap" as the next guy, we should respect each other (for that, if nothing else), so "RESPECT" is a big thing with me. And I spent 26-yrs in the Army because I believe that there are "bad guys" out there, and someone should stand between you and them. So when I see this video, I think of how this is somebody's mother... or grandmother, so, although they haven't quite reached the status of "... not being worthy to live with the rest of us", they deserve the azz-whippings that every mother's son wants to give them. I'm sorry I couldn't be there to stand between the torment and the tormentors, and make the pain stop. But thank you, God, for showing us that you are real by blessing this mother/grandmother, in more ways than one, and I know there is an army of those that would and will stand up to these low-lifes. After all, we're all on this rock, trying to make it, day-by-day.
I really feel like this is because we have a lack of school counselors in the system. There are so many budget cuts and the first to go are the people who can really teach these kids the importance of kind words, etc. School counselors also host parent trainings, because the parent is so important when it comes to teaching kids values. It truly is an epidemic.
I am a school counselor who can't reach these kids because there is no more funding for us. It's really sad.
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