Seventh graders who cruelly taunted their 68-year-old school bus monitor, Karen Klein, will be punished. In the meantime, Klein has received hundreds of thousands of dollars to help her retire and take her dream vacation. NBC's Craig Melvin reports.
Updated at 6:16 p.m. ET: Bullied school bus monitor Karen Klein might have more than $335,000 to vacation far away from the Greece, N.Y., pupils who bullied her in a profanity-laced video that went viral this week.
Nearly 10,000 online sympathizers had donated that much money by Thursday evening on the fund-raising site Indiegogo.com in a campaign called “Lets Give Karen – The bus monitor – H Klein A Vacation.”
Graphic content warning: The video on YouTube
The fund-raising was set up through a reddit.com member, identified as Max Sidorov of Toronto, Canada, after he saw the video called "Making the Bus Monitor Cry" posted to YouTube on Monday.
“It’s an incredible campaign,” Slava Rubin, who cofounded Indiegogo.com in 2008, told msnbc.com. “We’re seeing good Samaritans come together to support this brave woman.”
An Indiegogo spokesperson earlier told msnbc.com that the website was in touch with Klein, and she would receive her money when the campaign is over, scheduled for July 20.
Indiegogo charges 4 percent for the fund-raising, Rubin said.
Klein was featured Thursday on the TODAY show, and later said she doesn't really want the “nasty kids” charged.
On TODAY.com: Karen Klein won't press charges
Earlier: Vacation of a lifetime pledged for bus monitor bullied in viral video
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if i found out that one of my kids was doing this i'd f**k them up!!!!!!
Holy crap, I laughed so hard at your comment Mike. I am right with you. I would beat my son's a$s. Yes I said BEAT. No child should treat a grown up like that, ever. These kids lack common decency and self respect.
I think it's great that the public is offended by what happened to the monitor. I hope she gets a fantastic trip (or retirement) and the kids whom pulled that garbage get a long hot summer in service of the community they so disrespected. If they were my kids there'd be no fun in the sun, no poolside days- I'd set them up with 8 hours of community service every day so that they wouldn't choose to do that again. Sorry son, you screwed up. Hope you like the work and will appreciate going back to school- to get an education and some respect next year.
I would have not been able to sit down for months if I had ever used the kinda language these kids did.
I agree it should be a summer of community service. No playing by the pool, playing baseball.
These kids are lucky they don't have my Mom for a parent, LOL.
if one of my boys was involved with this, I'd absolutely kick their asses.... literally. None of this time out SH#@. A belt across the ass a few times will help them get the message. The parents of those kids should be sure their punishment is severe enough they will never do something like that again. I'd be afraid to come home if I had done something like that and my Parents found out!
Kids today have zero respect for adults, and that means their parents, as well as teachers, and in this case bus drivers and monitors. If the kids aren't taught respect for others, they won't have respect for others. You wonder why there are bullies in the schools? Lack of respect for others, no respect for human life.
This is a sad situation! I watched the ten minute video and it made me puke! I live less than ten miles from this incident and sadly this town of Greece, NY was placed on the world map because of kids bullying an eldler. With towns suffering from budget crisises, a clear messege should be sent for either tough boot camps or stiff sentences for community work to be implemented for smarta$$ kids like these that have no feelings for others! I wish a speedy healing process for this woman who was just doing her job and having the courage to finish her shift. May you enjoy a safe and happy summer! And as for the kids, get a life!
This almost makes me cry, as well. Ms. Klein has lived decades just for this? Who are the parents of these children? I understand that children are going to do things that would upset their parents, and that is part of growing up, but, geez... these kids have no hearts, and their parents obviously messed up the order of priorities when teaching general manners and common decency. She deserves a happy retirement away from these after-birth stains.
I diffinitely know none of my kids are or would be doing this crap. Just ask their behinds.
I wonder how many teachers go through similiar things.
You're right. However, many of these kinds of kids are just emulating what mom and dad are doing.
If you have to beat your child for their behavior, maybe there is some fixing on the adults end that need to be done. We can't simply place the blame at these children's feet and walk away. Seems some parents have some explaining to do as well. The rest of the kids that just went along with it though, those are the ones that get turned over your knee.
What these kids did was atrocious and they deserve to be punished for their actions. Maybe holding the parents responsible for their little angels' behavior will get their attention that they need to do something to address the problem with their kids instead of ignoring it. To many parents today could care less what their kids do so long as it does not impact or otherwise inconvenience them. Maybe we need to start inconveniencing the parents to give them a wake up call.
That said, I do not understand people giving all this money to this woman. She was not physically injured in any way. So people think she could use a vacation, great. But what has this woman gone through that warrants this outpouring of hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. There are people with no roof over their head and no food to eat who certainly need this charity more than this lady. I am constantly amazed at the things that people feel a person deserves huge sums of money for. Not to diminish what this woman dealt with, but a relatively short duration of verbal abuse from a bunch of foul mouthed teenagers just does not warrant her receiving hundreds of thousands in charity. People need to think things through before giving money over the internet on stories like this. I am sure there are far better uses for your charity to help far needier and more deserving people in your local communities.
Who is to say what hurts worse: something done to you physically or something done to you verbally?? They bashed her dead son, dude. That had to hurt just as much as getting punched in the face. It's not really up to you to decide who is worthy and who is not of people's charity.
Furthermore, she is living below the poverty level: $15k/year? You don't think she deserves some sort of charity for putting up with garbage like this only to make $15k/year? I don't get why you even care so much. So what? What is it to you if people want to give her money!? I reckon the people who are doing this DO give to other charities.
These parents should have to be a bus monitor for a month because of what their kid did.
Did you donate money to this woman, I doubt it, so why do you care??? People did a great thing by giving her money even though you don't agree. I'm glad your around to tell people "to think things through."
Horrible is what these kids did to this poor woman!! The parents ae probably foul mouthed brats as well!! A GOOD SPANK works wonders!! Not a beating, A SPANKING!! Like in the old days, why do you think kids were so much more respectable to adults even as recent as 20 years ago? They were taught manners, respect, consideration of others feelings and treat others as they would want to be treated! Stop being your kid's best freind parents! It's the damn Libs and bleeeding hearts out there that have let kids go amuck nowadays! Afraid of telling their kids no, or a swat on the butt when they get home (since you can't do it in public anymore) and taking away privilages. Ignoring a kid's bad behavior does NOTHING! Maybe this will open parent's eyes to the fact they better start using harsher punishments!! NO I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT BEATING YOUR KID,EITHER!
JS in SD, really? What do you care? Sounds like you are jealous. A very large group of people saw this lady being verbally assaulted by these punks to the point of making her cry. This is an elderly lady whose job was to supervise and make sure these little bastards are safe on their bus ride, is poorly compensated, then treated like garbage by a bunch of entitled brats. Many people in society feel bad for how this woman was treated as it reflects poorly on how society has decided to handle children. My parents never had to tell me NOT to verbally abuse elderly ladies who are doing their JOB and I still knew I wasn't supposed to do it. These days, kids act so damned entitled, and of course their parents all think they are little angels. So a few people wanted to do something nice for this lady. It turned out that more people than expected wanted to do something nice for her. Hey, now she can retire and take a nice vacation. I am glad. The public outpouring has at least partially restored my faith in humanity. As far as you telling people where their personal resources should be allocated, that is not your right. Who says we don't all give to other charities? In any event, it isn't your business. People did this willingly.
JS in SD: How can you say that? This grandmother is obviously not rolling in the dough if she took a job babysitting these ignorant brats! I highly doubt she does it because she does not need the money....she's probably like every other grandparent in this country, trying to work to help support her children and grandchildren who cannot find work! If I were not unemployed for the past year myself I would certainly pitch in to send this awesome woman on a vacation or just contribute to her future so she does not have to go back to this job to be humiliated. You don't know her situation so don't say there are others worse off than her! Something tells me in my heart that this amazing lady is going to pay it forward, whether to her own family members in need or to others in need that she comes across in the future. It's a good thing you are well off enough to judge others! Lucky you.
I have to agree with Js in SD...Those kids were disgusting examples of humanity but exactly why are people donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a 60 year old woman being teased by 12 year olds? Yes I know words hurt and those kids are monsters but really? She's a GROWNUP..she was the bus monitor for pete sake...what was she monitoring? She sat there cowed by seriously mean 12 year olds. I believe a bus monitor is there to help alleviate bad behavior and/or dangerous behavior. How is she doing this exactly? And there are children being abused, wives being battered, homeless people, homeless families and CHILDREN, rape victims, children with cancer, drunk driving victims, soldiers coming home from war disabled and the list goes on and on yet people are giving this GROWN WOMAN money because her fellings were so sliced to ribbons by MEAn RIDICULOUS CHILDREN that she needs 300000 worth of compensation and vacation?...REALLY/
You people make me proud and actually gave me faith in humanity not going down the crapper. Now maybe some of that money could be put too a better use, like hiring some kids too beat the crap out of those mean little sh!ts that caused her so much grief in the first place. But I'm sure there is probably some law against that sort of action, unless we can have it repealed for special circumstances like this one.
What is a bus monitor for?She is a poor woman being so heavy.It's very hard when children are cruel,but that is how children react when they do not get their way.She did not report the first time it happened maybe because she could not handle the job.You have to be very thick-skinned around teens.
Guess what, people can spend their money anyway they want. You don't like it, too bad.
What do you mean by that?
I hope she gets to a million bucks. Why do you people care how many people donate, and how much? I don't think most multimillion dollar lawsuit winners deserve what they get, and think Justin Bieber would be overpaid at $10,000/ year, but it's not my business.
Seriously, it's a public school? Our money pays for them to go there? Kick them out!
Get out you are not welcome here!
It's a privilege not a right.
For JS in SD and Kerry whatever...
If you don't like it, turn the other way. Nobody broke your arms to make you two read the story and watch the video. These are probably some of your spawns! Punk mouths!
Did you enjoy watching the poor lady get bullied by a bunch of effing thugs? If I were the judge, they'd be in Juvi for a VERY LONG TIME...no community work...that's a cop-out for real punishment. Solitary confinement with a bar of soap in their mouth every day before meals...or better yet...FOR their meals! The parents should be responsible as well...Let THEM do the community work!
Personally, I hope the check goes up to a million dollars for this lady! Now THAT would be an awesome payback!
This poor lady lost one of her own kids to suicide, then these punk azzz excuses for human beings run their mouth telling her that her children should die because she's FAT? Maybe they didn't know that, but there is absolutely NO excuse for that kind of hate from those thugs or anybody else.
What cruel animals people raise these days!
Someone on another board said
BS! I can guarantee you, if you raise them right, you won't have to WORRY about what they say in public, because it won't be anything bad. Teach your brats RESPECT FOR OTHERS!
If these were my kids, they wouldn't sit down OR talk for a month! I'd make SURE of that...And I would DARE social services to come to my home!
I hope every one of those involved in this do hard time in Juvi, and I hope the lady becomes a millionaire from this!
I say TWO THUMBS UP for the public who is making this statement against the hooliganism and young thuggery that was inflicted on Karen Klein. She behaved with dignity; the children on that bus did not; it is a rare but pleasing sight to see virtue rewarded.
Identify the kids. Kick them off the bus and have the parents drive them to school until they graduate from high school.
9 time out of 10 its the parents fault for how their kids turn out, I can guarantee you. When my four children were young back in the 80's we were sitting in a waiting room and there were no chairs for the adults, I made my children get up and give up their seats, some of the other parents sitting nearby with their children looked at me like I had commited the unpardonable sin, that I would dare to make my children be respectful of adults, oh the horror of it!!. The problem with the kids nowdays is the parents, or rather the parents fear of cps, which is so stupid, I spanked my children good when they were little, and did it right in a public place too. Cant do that now, God forbid. Then one time when my daughter was about 5 we were in line in Safeway and she was walking out ahead of me with some kraft candy, I made her march right up to the cashier and hand it to her and told her (the chashier) in front of everyone, I did not pay for this, well if looks could kill. I couldnt imagine any of my children stealing now, if they do tho at least I know I did the right thing. Parents, do yourself and your children a favor, discipline them, dont beat theml, tell them you love them and spank them when they do wrong, Make them have respect for adults and make them give up their chair for an adult, make them say please, thank you and excuse me, especially when they are in a public place, good example for other children hopefully because their parents may not teach them anything but to whine and throw a fit in the stores!! And teach them that we are all the same in God's eyes, red and yellow, black and white!!!
Disgusting, disrespectful, entitled jackasses. Those apples probably didn't fall far from the tree.
68 years old and still working. I don't think she's doing this for her health. Kudos to everyone who donated. Hopefully, great vacation and retirement, finally.
Replace her with a buff, no-nonsense 20 year old guy standing over them every day on the bus. One word out of any of them, one roll of the eyes, and BOFF. If you parents won't teach respect, then don't complain when someone else does.
The sad part is that there is quite a bit of money going to the fund-raiser and not the person who was Harassed. Four percent is a large sum when talking about more than $100K.
Good for her! And now all that's left is to take a hard leather belt to the behind of those brats until they scream in pain and are left with welts so painful and deep they couldn't sit down for a week. For you "that's child abuse!" morons, especially if you're parents, a belt should be taken to you and to your brats (obviously they need it since you don't know how to discipline).
Oh, wait, one more thing is left. The parents of those should've-been-abortions should have everything taken from them - their homes, bank accounts, retirement accounts, et. al. - and be given to her as well. These parents and their should've-been-abortions should be put out on the street, homeless, hungry, cold and sick and let nature take its course.
You go, Abby! If parents won't do what's necessary to teach and discipline their kids to be decent human beings - even if that means a good whoopin' with a belt because they mouth off the "I would never hit my child!" nonsense (it shows when they don't) - then somebody else has to. And if the parents complain and whine "no one hits my child!" then we need to hit the parents, too. A good hand across the face of a coddling parent will teach them how to parent.
If one of my boys did this, I sure hope someone there, bigger than me, would knock him on his ar_se! This video made my heart hurt so much! What a bunch of hyenas.
Dear god... this is what my generation looks like? This is terrible! First of all, getting made fun of can have many psychological effects on a person, no matter what age they are. I was made fun of when I was younger, and I now have social anxiety because of it. I have enough trouble talking to new people because I'm afraid of being judged. Doing this to someone in a position of authority is horrible, and no one deserves it anyway. She did the right thing by trying to ignore it, as taking initiative often just makes the jokes get worse. These kids are DISGUSTING. If I were in this situation, I'd want to scream everything they'd said right back at them. Heck, I would've wanted to physically assault them. Ms. Klein probably felt like doing those things, but knew her job wouldn't allow it (and she had enough self control to stop herself; they would've antagonized her if she did anything).
Usually, I don't see why a middle school would need a bus monitor, but with kids like these, it makes sense. There were kids at my school who were disrespectful to teachers, parents, etc., but never like this. I never knew anyone to insult an adult like this. It is likely the fault of the children and their parents. It didn't seem like the parents thought it was a big deal. People need to teach their children respect as my parents (and many other parents) have, or else we're going to have a lot more homicides, murders, prisoners and executioners.
Where have the manners gone for the kids? I guess when we have people condone heckling of the President as it is their right because they don't agree with his policies then it really isn't a stretch for the kids to denigrate the average citizen. After all the parents make the example for the kids to follow. It wouldn't surprise me to see these ignorant kids become tea party members when they get older.
Is this really what my generation is like? Man, society is going downhill. Getting made fun of, no matter your age, can hurt psychologically. I was made fun of when I was younger, causing me to develop social anxiety disorder. She did the right thing by trying to ignore them, as taking initiative would've just made the jokes worse. If they did that to me, I'd be shoving those words right back down their bratty little throats. I just finished middle school (it would be considered junior high in some places) and I know my generation can be disrespectful. However, I've never seen anyone who would insult someone in a position of authority like those children. Those boys probably didn't get spanked as little children, and they obviously should've. Actions have consequences, but people don't seem to realize it these days.
It is the fault of the parents and the children, and they need to take responsibility. People need to be respectful to others--whether it's an elder, an adult or even a toddler. It doesn't matter who you're talking to. Everyone deserves respect until they've disrespected you. Even so, that doesn't mean you should be a jerk, but it means you don't have to act like their best friend all the time. Hopefully, with the names of those little brats out, they'll NEVER find a place to hide from this incident.
This is totally messed up. Each one of this little punks deserves an a$$ kicking. Same for their parents. I look forward to seeing what their punishments are and what the parents have to say. Really does make you wonder about our future. Clear reason for some revisions and reinstatement of punishments that schools can apply. There is certainly no reason to beat your kids but this extra soft, be your friend, center of the universe, bubble world we have moved to needs to go away too. It is time to find a balance and move back to a mix of newer thinking and old methods alike. Extreme cases like this, I think the paddle is called for. But whatever happens these kids need to face equal if not greater consequences for their actions.
Best of luck to this lady hope she can retire soon now. Glad to see all the support she has gotten.
BTW: I just finally had a chance to watch the video and saw it has their names posted below, assuming its correct. Maybe everyone else already saw it but guess we can all know who they are now. A plus for the digital age if you ask me, thanks Facebook (where they got the video and names from). Further showing how dumb these kids are.
Just saw that some phone #'s are on there too, don't know if they are correct but they are in the post fields just have to look. I know I'm spreading the word but these $hits deserve it. All I have to say is be careful and make sure it really is them if you call. Have to look for yourself, I won't post em.
To the people that think $300,000 is to much to give,
What, do you really think that three people gave $100,000 or thirty people gave $10,000 each?
I could be wrong, but I think it is more likely that a fairly large number of people gave a little bit each out of concern and sympathy for someone that was emotionally attacked by a bunch of little monsters.
It should not be a matter of contempt or derision that the total amount became so large. It should be a source of hope for those of us who have to fight the frequent feeling that humanity is made up of a bunch of heartless ba$%ards who don't care about anything but themselves.
On a side note, if those kids had done that to my mother, I would have needed the $300,000 for my legal defense fund.
MDB123 you're misinformed. Children in this country have the constitutional right to a public education. I can tell you that a parent tried to sue our district because their child was unruly, defiant and oppositional. The child set her house on fire by putting the toaster under the curtains and then told her dad that her mother did it. The parents were told that one of them would have to escort her on an upcoming field trip. The parents and the child didn't show on the day of the trip. They then sued the district for denying their child her right to an education. The field trip was an educational opportunity that was part of the public school program and it was her right to attend. They demanded that the district pay for the entire family to go to Sea World since she didn't get to go during the field trip.
While she may not want to press charges, she needs to. For the sake of the kids. They need to be aware that actions have consequences. A weekend bootcamp or community service for the entire summer might give them an idea without being harsh.
Too bad they can't be placed in an adult jail for a day or two. Just long enough for real criminals to let them know they're nothing more than fresh meat. Oh well.
I was smart enough to NEVER try this kind of $hit but if I had, my Dad would have smartened me up plenty fast and I would have never tried it twice. Not saying I didn't get in my fair share of $hit but never anything even close to this.
It's nice that people are stepping up to comfort her. But these kids, unfricking believable. And now their parents are speaking up about how they have learned their lesson and people should be easier on them. Have they crawled on their hands and knees and begged her for forgiveness?
I watched this on the NBC nightly news and they sanitized the story and excluded the comment about her family killing themselves so they could get away from her. Her son committed suicide ten years ago and her husband has passed. What kind of monster would say that, if he was my son I don't know if I could sleep soundly if he was in the house. He needs therapy.
I actually student taught in the Greece District about 10 years ago. It used to be known as a "Lighthouse" district - known for progressive teaching, etc. When I was there? The district would bend over backwards to appease parents -they wouldn't take a stance on a bad kid because it averaged about a 100K in court. Code of conduct, common decency, manners - STANDARDS?
My mom drives a bus and she's 72. She's had kids hit her in the head while driving, spit at her, curse at her, threaten her....she's come home after having something so vulgar said to her she needed it explained. Most of these kids go to a very expensive Catholic school too. Her first year she had a boy do all of this to her - she'd come home and cry. School reports did nothing. Her employer did nothing. This kid had the legal right to ride the bus no matter his behavior. The next year he put the driver in the hospital.
What happened to the idea that the behavior of the child reflected on the parent? Why have we allowed people to use the law to bully districts into allowing bad behavior. Not just tolerating it...allowing it. What are our priorities as parents?
I can't even watch this video. I don't need to see it, and I'll just get upset. I am just so glad that I spoke up on the bus once - some teen brats were teasing a woman for being "fat" (and she was plump, but not a lot), so as I got up to leave, I patted the poor woman on the arm and said, "People like them don't deserve your attention."
One of the brats repeated my words in a mocking way, so I said, "And you don't deserve my attention, either," and got off the bus. I have not thought about that until now - it must have been 15 years ago.
While I empathize with folk's anger, I'm not sure that physically abusing these kids is somehow going to teach them how to show kindness or respect to others. My vote is for the summer of community service...maybe two!
Are we sure about some of the facts? Because according to Glen Beck, he broke this story yesterday. And according to him, he's responsible for the donations going to this woman. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)
JS in SD and Kerry: Who are you to decide who gets what in donations? If a few million people donated $5 or $10, that is their way of standing up for the woman. They cannot punish the children. But they can do something for this woman. And that is their decision, not yours. If you're concerned about homeless people going hungry, donate to the charities that help them. And in response to another post, 4% administrative costs for a charity is reasonable.
anyone who gave this woman money is an idiot.
I think it is wonderful that people in this country still care about others. These kids are bullies and this should follow them for a long time. This needs to be sent to any school they want to attend and be sent to any one that may want to employee them. Let them see what it is like to be bullied.....
I have no idea what raising $300,000 for this woman has to do with anything that happened, except some smart guy put up the donation site and stands to pocket $12,000 for doing next to nothing. This does nothing to teach the kids a lesson and doesn't change anything this woman went through emotionally.
That's the way a lot of people are now-a-days. Any kind of problem that comes up they want to throw money at it, like that will somehow fix the problem. That's kind of the way Democrats do things. She's getting more money than George Zimmerman's defense fund.
As wrong as these kids were for what they did and the need for them to be punished, you would think this woman was hung from a rope and physically tortured by the outrage and money given to her.
This kind of thing happens every day all across America. Any teacher, aide or whatever is open to this kind of behavior. Let's start collections for the thousands of people or children that are bullied or verbally abused every day by smart *** teens.
This is nothing new either. I can remember the movie "To Sir with Love" made back in the 60's dealing with teacher abuse.
I hope she enjoys her money but I don't understand it other than there must be a lot of guilty feelings by some people.
Hey if it makes you feel better to come on here and say "If my kid did that I would beat him", and then donate some money to her, go for it. It will cleanse your conscience.
By the way, there's another article out today on how there's 1.5 million children starving in Africa. Maybe this money should have gone to that. But go ahead and say it "Don't tell me who to donate my money to".
I am very happy that this woman is getting over $300,000 for a vacation. Bullying is something I am against & have been fighting for a few years with children. On the other hand I am so glad there are so many people out there willing to give to this lady. I have been trying to raise money for victims of breast cancer for a few months & have raised $0 from sponsors now I even set up a donation site & have $0 bites so I don't know what is wrong or why I am not saying that this woman doesn't deserve a vacation but why do people feel breast cancer is a none important subject? Real people losing their vehicles, homes, electricity because of the financial distress they suffer not by choice but by being victims of breast cancer. The sponsorships we offered we would be giving out advertising see for your self & we have reached out to hundreds of business owners for this... www.towingforacureforbreastcancer.com
Now we have opened a donation site for everyone to help with this cause in hope that people will reach out & help other people.
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I wasn't surprised by this video at all. I've been a substitute teacher for over 23 years. I have been insulted, tormented, name called, and yes, I guess"bullied" many, many times ..... What surprises me is that people are so surprised at these children's behavior .... for some teachers this is par for the course.
I've never been videoed, so I guess I got no $300,000, but good for that poor woman .... Sometimes I wish they would install video in every classroom ... some parents would be stunned at their childrens actions.
There will be NO justice for this woman.
The inner pain School Bus Monitor Karen Klein, 68 years old, had to endure while being bullied, cannot be taken away by collecting over $330,000.
Money does not buy healing.
On top of these parents responsibility for their children who are Bullies, this Woman lost a son to Suicide, and her husband died as well.
It is the parents fault for bringing up such uncaring human beings. Parents are role-models for their own children. Too bad the parents cannot be fined a huge sum.
Now can money buy happiness in this case?
I'm a former battered wife and once someone called me fat and ugly (I am neither). It hurt my feelings, and yes, I cried a few times. Anyone want to set up a fundraising website for me? I sure could use a vacation and a retirement fund would be nice as I'm also a single mother (the basta*d won't even pay child support).
I think it is absolutely ridiculous this woman is getting so much money for having her feelings hurt while she WASNT doing her job! I hope she gives some to charity.
Skimming through the 3 YouTube videos, it appears that they didn't all occur on one bus trip. In the long video, she is wearing a blue blouse, in the 2 shorter videos she is wearing a white blouse.
This obviously was not a one time incident...
The parents definitely let their kids down, and in doing so, they let all of society down. All one has to do is listen to them to understand that this is what they get off on. They are obviously a group that does this on a regular basis to anyone that they don't like. They are well beyond the point where talking to them about their errant ways will cure the ill. They are in desperate need of some MEANINGFUL discipline. They remind me of some friends I grew up with, and some of my own kids friends, who's parents threatened, but never followed through on punishments. While there is a certain genetic predisposition for some behaviors, most, if not all, can be effectively handled through proper parenting. As in setting a good example during the most formative years(day 1 through year 5) I hope that the school authorities and the police will come down very hard on, not only the children, but their parents as well. If they don't, then just take 'em out back and shoot 'em before they become adult a$$holes.
I was bullied like this every day for awhile in junior high (on the bus in fact) by kids almost exactly like this. This is completely the parents fault. It should *not* be so easy for just anyone to shoot out some kids. I think the proper punishment in a case like this is for social services to get involved and take those kids away from the parents. It shows the parents you simply can't treat your kids like crap and/or completely neglect them, and it shows the kids that you simply can't be disrespectful like that without serious consequences in life. And if that's not an option, then maybe 6 months in juvey hall will wake up both the parents and the kids. There's no reason this shouldn't be treated as a serious harassment case. Any adult who did this would be paying a pretty price for this.
How about 6 mos. in juvie for the kids AND the parents. Wouldn't that be a hoot. Take 'em out back and shoot 'em is just a figure of speech. It means that something serious needs to be done with both the kids AND their parents especially.
No idea what the tax implications are for receiving a gift like this but I hope that this woman gets some solid tax advice before she spends a penny or she is going to come back from a wonderful vacation to Uncle Sam with his hand out...
These snotty little twits should have their summer ruined by having to perform community service 8 hours a day, 6 days a week and attending some sort of sensitivity class on the 7th day until school starts back up in Sept. See if they open their smart lil mouths again .
The parents of these kids should also be required to attend parenting classes on their weekends as well. That will ensure that they raise their kids in a more respectful manner.
I think this woman deserves all the money anyone wants to give her. The kids who did this have no respect at all for anyone. But to all of you who advocate hitting children, as if that will fix all the problems, you are naive. I am sorry YOUR parents hit you. I am sorry for your kids that you possibly hit them. I was NEVER EVER hit as a child, and I was STILL taught respect for elders and people in general. Hitting a kid can maybe get a point across for a second, but if its not done with serious explanation as to why the child was physically punished, it won't make a bit of difference. You all assume these parents were "friends" with their kids. How do you know they weren't taking a belt to them all this time? Whatever "parenting" these people did clearly did not come with any thoughtful discussion of treating people with respect or caring about the feelings of others. If you all really think you can hit a kid, and skip all the "touchy feelgood" discussion about WHY that choice was made, you may be surprised to find out that your kids aren't as well behaved as you think. We have to teach children how to treat each other (and everyone else) and I never understood the "logic" that comes from the "Don't hit your sister or you will get a spanking". Taking the time to explain why the behavior is unacceptable is the only way you will have long lasting results. Besides, many kids who know they will get a spanking for some bad behavior will take it, because it lasts 5-10 seconds. If I ever did something I wasn't supposed to, I would get talked to for 5, 10, sometimes 20 or so minutes, which is an ETERNITY to a kid. Other than learning the lesson, I would decide if the lecture was worth the behavior, and usually I wanted to avoid not being able to play or whatever for the 10 mins.
We tell kids violence is wrong, then we hit them. And we wonder why our world is so messed up. And yes, spanking is violence. We are (in theory) intelligent animals, we should be able to progress past our chimp ancestors and use our words, not our hands, to teach children what behavior is acceptable.
Really, really sad that these students (and parents) lack RESPECT. When were these kids, or parents ever in a Christian Church? to hear a sermon on Love? "Love Thy Neighbor"? "Love Thy Neighbor As Thy Self"? This is how today's youth spend/waste time?
Also, where was this bus driver? Why did not stop the bus and bring order to the situation after 1 Minute? If the bus driver was not aware of what was happening, why not? This bus driver should be fired.
Why wasn't the monitor sitting in a area that could be observed by the bus driver? Why did not any other child report the situation to the bus driver? In this situation, having a monitor aboard the bus and not stopping the escalating abuse is counterproductive to having a monitor.
As the driver was not aware, or any other child did not have enough character to intervene, then the monitor should have gotten out of her seat (off her butt) and have the bus stopped stopped until order was restored.
I completely agree. Unfortunately, you would be arrested and your kids would be taken away from you. That's the way it is.
Why do the kids need a monitor on the bus? Are they so undisciplined that they need a babysitter? I hope the parents of those kids watch that video. They all deserve to have their mouths washed out with soap and their butts beat. Then they should apologize publicly to that lady. My Mom and Dad probably would have made us kids go clean here house or mow her lawn or do chores for her for our entire summer vacation FOR FREE. And after that, I would have been grounded the entire summer, and when my Mom said the entire summer, she meant it. I had my mouth washed out with soap one time because I heard an adult say the word "piss", and I yelled that word at my Mom, OMG, I never had to have my mouth washed out with soap again.
My God, as kids we would not have DARED speak to an adult that way, much less an elderly woman.
@my3cats: Our parents didn't spank us often, but when they did, you can bet we remembered and were on our best behavior (there were 5 of us and I was the one always in trouble). Just the threat of a spanking or a look that said "you're gonna get it" would stop you dead in your tracks. Along with the rare spankings we were taught right from wrong and you better act like you knew right from wrong. Sure, we were "talked to", but there was no negotiating like there is today. There was no "politically correct" way to talk to your child. The parents were the boss and that was that.
Probably today, with the way my Mom and Dad raised us, they would be thrown in jail for child abuse. I don't think it was abuse. But I tell you what, us kids knew how to act in public and at home. I raised my daughter the same way, I think I had to spank her once, after that, the "look" would stop her. Thanks Mom and Dad for raising me the way you did. Too bad more parents today don't know how to raise their kids. You see them behaving badly all the time, running around in restaurants like it's a playground, having tantrums, telling the parents what to do, being kicked off of the airplane because they're having a tantrum and the parents can't strap them into the seat.
Those kids on that bus are a disgrace to their parents and the kids and their parents should be ashamed.
In many communiites, the bus can not move without a driver AND a monitor. Maybe Karen should just take a few days off and make the parents of these diseased kids either sit in or drive them...Maybe the best thing that can happen is these kids are expelled from school, or at least prohibited from riding the bus. If they think this is something good, they certainly need help at home and at school...who is teaching values to these delinquents
The fund, begun by Max Sodorov of Toronto, has reached $450,000, and there is a petition for the money to be a tax free retirement fund.
Apparently, Sodorov wouldn't talk to American CNN (probably because it was American), but spoke at length to CBC News Network and CTV Newsnet, the two main Canadian news networks.
I have to add, if any of those kids were mine and I saw that video, I probably would be arrested for child abuse given todays "politically correct" atmosphere.
@jwfun: Why should the busdriver be fired? The parents should be fired for not doing their job as parents.
Never mind the punk ass kids, most of which will probably spend their lives serving Fries to people for Minimum Wage.
My joy on this story is the aftermath. Seeing so many people donate to this Ladies "vacation" is heartwarming. It's just nice to see that sometimes people can be kind to a complete stranger. I donated $20 bucks. Not much, but it will get her a nice Fruity Drink with an umbrella in it and she can drink it while laughing at the idiots who made it possible......
(I mean the kids.)
The kids and parents are lucky they are not down South- they would already be in the Detention Center.
Terroristic threats, elder abuse, abuse of a person with a disability, endangering the welfare of a child ( x how many other kids on the bus ) and assault of school employee.
Bill Billington.....you are an idiot not the people that donated. Now go slither back under the rock you came from!
Careful Bunkie. Calling somebody an idiot -even when they clearly are an idiot- is a COH Violation and they'll suspend you.....
Incidently, I voted your comment UP.....
Avoid Greece, NY like the plague. I have been there and this is not uncommon behavior there. These kids have been trained by their parents to conduct themselves with this kind of behavior, and it is encouraged in that community. The school district has done NOTHING to punish these kids, scott free, off the hook, and none of the parents in the school district have even stepped up to the plate to challenge it. Bus driver didn't do a damn thing to stop it, neither did any of the other students on the bus who were not directly participating.
Clearly a black eye for the Greece, NY, community, which they sorely deserve for encouraging and condoning this kind of behavior. WAY TO GO, GREECE, NY!
Regarding the $$ given to this woman, she deserves it, and people can donate to any charity they wish.
Another factor. This School Bus Monitor should have had the guts to stand up against these ill-raised children, telling them to Stop this crap, to get back to their seats--or else---these kids were looking for a strong-willed disciplinarian. She did not seem to be that type of person.
I could have taken care of the situation. I know all ages of kids, and how to get them to stop--it takes Leadership and a Powerful Adult watching these little brats, to put them in their place.
She was not the right person for this job. The parents are ill-fitted to do their job.
The bus doesn't need a monitor. If you ask me it is just opening up the system for liability. If anything was to happen on this bus these disgraceful parents would clamor why didn't the monitor stop it. What the bus needs is a camera and zero tolerance. They can walk and they better not be a minute late.
Merchant you may be right and you could handle the situation. I'm guessing the average man would be baited into a prison sentence by these evil brats. You can't stop them from taunting you are cussing at you. You can record them and report them but they would sneak attack you. They would keep baiting you until they had a youtube response out of you.
Patrick:
My remarks were in the sense, that someone with a more stern, stronger personality would stand up to these kids and tell them to "Cut it Out" or further Action will be taken against them by the School or other Authorities. This is what bullies look for, someone who can stand strong against their taunts. They were looking for trouble, and got it.
"Get back in your seats". No violence, but harsh discipline. Where was the "Bus Driver"?
Where was the bus driver in all this? Why wasn't the bus stopped and the school called via radio? The kids need to be punished but you'll have the parents cry foul. I swear I need to move to the mountains and live off the land!
Exactly! That bus driver should have stopped that bus and gotten that crap under control, and then told the principal that those kids should not be allowed to ride the bus. Make their parents drive them to school from now on or they can WALK! I bet the parents would straighten them out then!
This would never work because the school districts don't want to get sued. First of all, these kids know that the school and the transportation office have no authority to do anything. Second, if you put a kid off the bus, parents sue under the premise that their child has the constitutional right to a public education and that getting them to and from school is part of that right. That's part of the problem. The parent's won't take accountability for their child's behavior in this situation and face the consequence of having to drive their child to school. This sets the example for the kid.
Education is a right, transporation however is a privilege, not a right, so when kids act like this then it should fall on the parents to provide transportation because their child could not follow the rules given to ALL the children on the bus. Maybe the parents will become acutely aware of the person their child is becoming and do something before it's too late !
We have an anti-bullying law here in NJ, but I am not aware if it would apply to adults being bullied by kids. However, my son received in-school suspension last year for disrespecting an aide in school (I think he deserved it), so I would think it could apply to aides on the bus. And I agree with a lot of posters on this - where was the bus driver in all this?
This is exactly why she needs to press charges. If they pick on her, imagine what the same kids are doing to their peers. She really isn't doing anyone a favor by letting these little yard apes off the hook.
I can't agree more. When I was in school I had bus drivers who would turn around and bring troublesome children back to school, even if we were only a couple of blocks from their stop in order to prove a point (the behavior is unacceptable) and to make sure the school and parents all knew about the child's behavior. No one wanted to go back to the school, so after one incident we were the best behaved bus you would ever come across.
Can I join you? :) hehe!
Cowboy...Welcome to Colorado. We need people like you!
Education is a right?????????? Where in the Constitution does it say that?????
I agree Cowboy! No excuses for these punks or their inept, inadequate parents! If I had ever entertained a thought of disrespect my amazon mother of 5'1 would have beat me until I prayed for pity!
As a parent and former coach I did not tolerate disrespect ever! The parents should beg her forgiveness - then show their punk brats what REAL hell is! The punks sound like spoiled entitled boys who will never be more than bullies............they will never become men! Do their dads ( and Moms) advocate bullying elderly women?................It takes a real man to make a grandmother cry! I am ashamed - these boys are very lucky!! They are damned lucky they are not mine!
The bus driver was in the front of the bus focusing on the road and driving (as it should be.) The monitor was in the back of the bus. He was extremely upset when he found out what had happened.
Nancy-I get he impression from what I'm hearing in the community that 2 of the parents are already taking the steps to help their little angels (insert eye roll) realize the follies of their ways by instituting some punishments (one has mentioned some community service.) It also sounds like the other 2 might be more inclined to blame anyone other than their little hellion for the problems that result from their actions.
One of those BRATS is probabely the drivers BRAT!! Thats why he or she didn't do anything to stop it! That lady should file a lawsuit against the driver!!
Unfortunately I don't think the driver could throw them off the bus but he could have stopped the bus and called the school.
There needs to be consequences for this behavior. Bullies have gotten the upper had far too long and too many have suffered because of the lack of responsibility taken by the parents. I think they need to publically apologize to this woman. I think the parents need to apologize publically for their actions. They are just as guilty. I can tell you, just like everyone on here, if I would have done anything like this to an adult, or another child, my butt would be sore for weeks and I would have lost all priviledges. I would have also been made to apologize to not only the person I hurt but I would have to do it in front of the whole school. Schools MUST start taking a stand on this behavior and forget about any possible lawsuits brought about by the parents of the bratts causing this pain. How dare the parents turn a blind eye to this. Just like the mother of the child in Texas who was outraged by the fact that her little angel was smacked by the kids in his class he bullied all year. I applaud the teacher for her response, she was obviously frustrated by the fact this kid was allowed to wreak havoc and nothing was done by the school.
These kids know there will not be any punishment. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising such little ASSES. The little angels should loose their bus privilidges and the parents need to be responsible for getting them to school and if they miss any class time, because it is an inconvenience to be late to work or their yoga classes let them explain why.
Well, I would assume it was her job to control the kids, which she was not doing. Why is it the drivers responsibilty to take care of her. Would he/she get her salary for doing her job?
Education is not a right either...not if my kid refuses to go to class, learn, and do as asked. I realize that is how it is in this country but then that is the issue. That everyone is entitled to this and that, with personal accountability never taken into account. Ever.
I don't care if people what to set up a fund for this woman to go on a vacation. That is their choice and she deserves it. I surely do not have any but even I would help her in other ways that I could. I can't believe some of you are caring about that. It is not like anyone tried to steal your money. Tight wads.
@Sara: The "monitor" shouldn't have to control those kids who clearly have no discipline and haven't been taught right from wrong. They should have learned how to behave at home before they ever get on a school bus to go to school. That lady isn't there to take those kids verbal assaults directed at her. Her job is not to parent those kids on the bus. That's the parents job. The only thing the monitor should have done was get up, walk up to the driver, tell the driver that the kids were out of control and abusive, and that they needed to be taken back to the school and let the parents come and pick up their badly behaving, out of control brats.
As a thought, if anyone files a lawsuit it should be Karen Klein suing the parents of those brats for whatever ridiculous reason a lawyer can come up with. Maybe if the parents of badly behaving out of control kids were held responsible, they might take their job as parents seriously.
This is god aweful, anyway you look @ this, I feel for this woman, yes kids like to pick with grown folk. I remember when I was delivering pizzas years ago, I got into it with teenagers and I told them I will whip them like slaves, I had to jack up evil lil monsters like this and the media is a bad influence when they make a big deal out of someone that's old and not only that their parents probably too busy getting high that's the problem with today's society, these kids are too disrespectful, laws are too liberal. Put those kids in a boot camp with a black woman like me I would beat them and their parents ass like slaves. Whip them all like slaves. Thanks for sharing this story with me, I will mention this on my radio show this morning. The Stephanie Little Radio Show on Spreaker Radio
It's time we stop assuming it's not "our" kids. Too often we hear the reply from parents to situations like this that their children would never behave this way. Clearly, these are someone's children and they haven't been taught that it isn't strength to dominate the weakest it is strength to protect them. I understand the pressures and fear of youth in standing up to this type of cruelty but I guarantee that more kids on that bus were uncomfortable with this attack then those who were engaging in it. We need to somehow provide our kids with that confidence to stand up for those who are being tormented and to give a voice to all those other kids who are thinking the exact same thing.
WUNFR, I can say this would not be my kids - definitively. When my sons were in 6th and 4th grade respectively, in the same month, independently of the others' teacher knowing, my boys each won the award from their school for Most Respectful students. My sons say yes ma'am, no sir, they open doors for ladies and elder gentlemen. They do NOT, under any circumstances, call adults by their first names. Old-fashioned, southern manners, you bet. Are my sons angels, absolutely not. Would they have had the nerve to stand up to the other kids on the bus and tell them to stop, I don't know. And that is something I will have to work on with them. But participate in this - won't happen.
Rosie thank you for raising your sons to be good people.
Yes Rosie................parents like you are to be lauded! Children like yours are rare! Thank you
Excellent work Rosie.. Our world needs kids like that. I have the same confident perception of my kids and hear nothing but positive reviews of their behavior from the adults around them when I can't be but they still surprise me sometimes with the decisions they make. I don't mean bullying or being mean spirited but how often do you just shake your head at the decisions your teenager makes and that's the point. We can't be so confident that our kids are 100% not participating because biologically kids in these years are developing their ability to discern right from wrong and build those empathy responses that will take them through life. I'm sure your kids are awesome and thank you for preparing them to fill lives of service but don't be so confident that they won't make a mistake that you are blind to it if it ever does happen.
This is 100% incompetent parenting. Regardless of how the parents pretend to be surprised that their child did this horrific bullying of this poor woman they are the cause. If these children were raised to respect others, their parents, and themsleves they would never do this to an older woman or anyone else. I would never have done this because I would not have hurt my parents feelings by embarrassing them. We were raised in a Christian house and if these kids had been they would have known better.
Some days when I am on this site and I read the filth and the hatred that spews out of others I have to leave the site. Where has respect gone?
I think the root comes from encouraging competition at all cost as opposed to compassion... We aren't lost just a little off target.
CoCo your post is on point. We live in a society where parents abdicate responsibility for teaching their offspring rules and respect. They are so self-absorbed that it is incomprehensible to them that they could have less than angelic children. They kiss their kids @$$ and expect the rest of the world to do the same. They send their self-indulgent brats to school, not for a real education, but just for someone to babysit them. These parents are the 1st ones to whine and cry because junior earned an F on his report card. They want to blame the teacher or the school for their kids inadequacies and character defects. It is for this reason, good qualified teachers leave the profession in droves. No wonder why America is in the shape its in. Moms, are you "MOM enough" to get your school-age kids of your ta-ta and teach them some manners?
Great segment of comments about this story. Seriously, usually the stuff I see here is crap. Thank you! I hope you all continue to invest in your kids and teach them well. Sadly, they will be the exception. Not the norm.
I feel sorry for the woman but what good is a bus monitor if she can't enforce the rules?
What do you propose she should have done? The bus driver was enabling them by not stopping the bus. By the drivers indifference, he was, in effect, supporting the bullying.
Antha, I'd say she should get a different job before she gets hurt as a bus monitor. Replace her with a man or a tough woman who won't get pushed around.
Way to blame the victim, soazDan. It is comments like that, that send the message that behavior like this from those kids is okay because 'the victim shouldn't have let themselves be pushed around.'
The behavior of the kids is at issue, not the victims.
P.S. I really hope you don't have kids.
So bad kids learn they can get away with disrespectful behavior with the monitor getting another job? No way! These kids should be punished and made to apologize. Then they should get a good dose of community service. Their behavior is a disgrace and is disgusting.
I say let them pick trash on route to school for a month.
Antha, As someone who works with middle school kids regularly. I didn't read soazDans remarks as blaming the victim so much as pointing out that monitor on that bus rout might not be a good fit for her. Kids today don't respect an adult just because they are there and are in-charge. They should but they don't. There is an intangible quality in some people that that make them a good fit for controlling that age group and no it isn't man vrs woman. I've seen plenty of both get picked apart. The little monsters worked as a pack and attacked a perceived weakness. She might be a better fit for situation that needs a calm compassionate presence and a hard a** might be needed on that bus.
In other words, the children are to blame for their own actions but she may have been put in a bad situation because the assignment was a bad fit for her.
Seems like it's illegal now to discipline kids! They know they can sue or their parents can sue! STUPID!
Jeepgal, you're correct. It all started in 1975 when the Feds decided we couldn't discipline kids, in any way, in the schools. I made my kids call their parents and let them decide. If they didn't take charge of the decision, the parents were told to keep the kids home until they did! That made the situation change to my favor in a hurry. I also had a principle with guts. That really helped!
She could not enforce the rules, because adults cannot insult a minor in public, it would be considered "abuse". She also can't fight back, because that would considered assaulting a minor and she could go to prison for it.
You can't even put kids in detention anymore, because that is considered abuse. Almost any form of punishment is abuse.
The parents can help these kids by having them do community service 6-8 hours a day until school starts. That is when they are never allowed on a bus again. Every single day of their school years the parents have to transport them. They are not fit for busing.
Have to agree with jeepgal, concerned and janika.
With every small change in the applying of rules, eventually everything a child does becomes acceptable with no legal recourse because of fear of retaliation or the excuse of its not their fault. With todays advent of social media, I hope that this video haunts these kids and their parents for the rest of their lives.
@soazdan: What you're saying is that these kids need a monitor who is essentially acting as a referee for these disrespectful, out of control, undisciplined brats. Get a bigger referee? They shouldn't need a bigger person. This is a school bus, not a hockey game and these kids obviously don't know the difference. The fault lies with the parents who should have taught their kids how to behave before they ever got on a school bus to go to their first day of kindergarden. Parents need to step up to the plate and be parents instead of letting the kids be in charge. NO way NO how should these kids ever consider acting this way towards an adult whether an "appropriate" school bus monitor is present or not. These kids can't have a babysitter following them around 24/7. They were not taught to respect adults and that is supposed to be taught at home. If they are verbally abusing this elderly woman that could be their Grandmother, I'm sure they are badly behaved in other areas of their lives also.
@tabi117: Perhaps she isn't a good fit. There are some adults that have "it" whatever "it" is that kids respect. They didn't respect this lady and indeed attacked her like a pack, feeding off of each other. And you're right, kids don't respect adults as they should. It all points back to the parents who are falling down on the job.
I think those brats do need some punishment. If not, it reinforces their bad behavior.
Yes, the brats should be punished. But so do the parents. My kids don't behave like that around others, even when I'm not around, because one thing I hopefully taught them is that it's not what you do when people are watching, but what you do when people are not watching that makes you a good or a bad person.
forget these little worthless wastes of oxygen, their parents should be beat senseless just on general principles. I understand that kids are kids and they do stupid things, especially to be "cool" but obviously they are lacking core values, and I think the parents of these little degenerates should have their names posted for all to see, so neighbors, friends and coworkers can make sure that they know what a stellar job they are doing as parents. Just sickening. If that had been my grandmother, right or wrong, I'd have glady went to jail for knocking the living @!$%# out of their fathers and whipping each one of those kids' asses with a "switch" ( old school, that's how I learned)
Oh I'm sure their neighbors know full well who they are. I read on another board that Greece, NY was a small area. They probably all grew up together. Serves the parents right! Now maybe the stupid government will mind their own business and let us get back to OURS...Raising OUR OWN children, OURSELVES! And maybe some other parents might get the hint that a belt is better than the display those punks put on for the world!
id like to see the tables turned on the kids and have someone bag on them relentlessly for a while and have it recorded...Its not the nice way, but usually kids learn the hard way..especially when it happens to them
I agree with punishing the kids, but what will be effective? If the kids' parents condone this behavior, then any punishment will be counterproductive. I would hope that the parents of these kids see this for what it is- their teenagers are acting like foul-mouthed, obnoxious, disrepectful bullies who will never make it anywhere in life with attitudes like this. The fact that there needs to be a bus monitor on this bus at all speaks to how incorrigible things on that bus may be already. If my kids were involved in a situation such as this, the school would have to get in line behind me when it came time to discipline. I would make sure that my kids never, ever acted this way again. They would also have to give up their partners in crime. There is no place in this world for such hatred and negativity and I would refuse to allow them to continue to hang out with other kids who want to act like this.
I have been a substitute teacher. It is fairly well known that the middle school children are the most difficult. If like retalliation were to happen, the parents, and others, would be screaming about the kids being bullied. We have a double standard. Look at the news media. Treatment of this sort in the schools to children is considered bullying. When it is done to an adult by the children it is just as much bullying and should not be tollerated anymore than the bullying of other students.
Maybe there should be an article in the local paper. Since you can't name the kids name the parents of the bullies. You can, however, have the bullies stand on a street corner down town with a sign that read I AM A BUS BULLY.
As the bus monitor, it is this woman's JOB to keep the kids in check while they are on the bus. She should have asked the bus driver to pull over while she contacted the superintendent and each one of their parents to report the incident. Surely, she has been through worse in her long life. Get a grip.
You're not around kids much are you? You try telling someone else's kids to behave. Yeah, it's not the kids or their parents fault for their bad behavior, it's always someone else's fault.
As someone who works in a school system, it is clear to me that this was a situation that had been on going and escalating for some time. Unfortunately, in many school districts (thankfully not the one where I currently work) faculty and staff know there is no point in calling for administrative help. They are told to deal things on their own.
BTW the idea that an employ would ever call a superintendent over discipline issues died away long ago in all but the smallest of small school districts.
So your solution to handle unruly and dis-respective kids is to pull over so someone can call all their parents?
While this hour long process is going on, and having to hear that their kids are good and wouldn't do that, do you think these kids are going to somehow sit down with their hands placed upon their knees with their mouths shut? They recorded the incident. I highly doubt calling mom or dad will make them behave.
All pulling over will do, is upset the other kids that did nothing wrong and most likely escalate the situation.
You keep driving, finish the route and then file a report.
No, you stop the bus, kick the little bastards off, then go on your way. Except some whiny ass parent would sue, and some loony jury would award the kids some insane amount.
The school has a perfect teaching situation here. Set up a bus and fill all but one seat with adults. Then put one of the kids that were on that bus in the empty seat and harrass them relentlessly--without touching them--just saying the same type of things that were said to the monitor. Same ride. Same bus. Same situation. Let's see how they feel about their behavior after that. Get the parents to consent. If they don't, their child doesn't get to ride the bus again. Time to turn the tables on these little pathetic terrorists. Bring it back around....
You are stupid with no common sense.............4goodngod............she is a monitor not a disciplinarian. If someone did this to your grandmother what would you say when you saw her cry, " Get a grip?"
OK - I agree that these kids deserve a good flogging. But - the bus monitor should be disciplined (probably fired). It is her job (along with the bus driver) to maintain order on the bus. This is a process that starts on day one of the school year. The monitor must be firm and persistent in this regard or you end up with the bus full of kids demonstrating the type of behavior seen on the video. She is obviously not up to the job - I thought she was comatose from the outset. But, she shows up and collects a check. No wonder the tea parties are so critical of public school funding levels!
What is the difference? What is she there for? What is the job description? I guess making $15,000 a year to sit on a bus and look around for a couple of hours a day is a pretty cushy job!!
They always show these bullying instances with a video camera rolling. It appears that all the school buses have them. If that is the case, what is the use of having the videos if they see this type of crap going on and nothing is done about it?
This poor woman not only has to endure the abuse or she gets in trouble, they only pay her fifteen thousand a year.
The video was taken and posted by one of the brats harassing her. Someone else saw it on Facebook, posted it to YouTube, and the rest is internet history.
Red, it looks like the poor woman can retire. That's good!
I hope she retires a millionaire! With all the people in the United States, at least half of them have hearts as shown by the donations already made. Surely it would only take a couple dollars per person to fix her up for the remainder of her life!
Well said, Red Wolf!!
She doesn't have to endure the abuse. She should have reported it the first time it occurred and every time after that. The school can't fix a problem they aren't aware of. Teachers, bus drivers, aides and bus monitors are subjected to this kind of abuse on a daily basis. It is up to us to push the administration to take action. I can tell you that parents don't mind running to administrators if they think you did something wrong. We have the right to be safe at work. We need to exercise our rights the same way these kids parents exercise their rights when they think they are being slighted.
I don't think this is right by any stretch of the imagination, but there are thousands of teachers and educational staff that have to put up with brats like this everyday and they don't get over $200,000 raised for them. Just because this was on YouTube and those weren't shouldn't matter. Children need to show respect for our elders and it starts with their parents teaching them that. And know what else? Raising $200,000 for this woman to go on vacation won't solve the problems. How about we raise money to educate these kids on respect and how to stop bullying their elders and each other.
I already pay to much every year in property taxes for that kind of buttheads to go to school and abuse their caretakers.
Jay I'm sure this lady didn't intend by posting the video to earn herself a vacation if that were the case she would've submitted it to Americas Funniest Home Videos. The video and subsequent donations were because people wanted to do something to remedy the situation and that was the way they felt they could address it. I'm sure the funds will be used smartly and as is often the case much of the donation will go to address the root causes of the issues shown.
You are so right. This is a 30 minute bus ride home. How do you think these kids act in an overcrowded classroom with a teacher who is being paid $45,000 a year if she's lucky. Until we expect more accountability from parents than we do from teachers and school staff this will not change. Kids will stand there and tell you that you can't do anything to me because my mom will come beat your %$%.
The accountability can not be placed solely on the parents in today's world When law makers have taken the rights of parents to discipline and the right of schools to discipline then you have to place a big part of that accountability on our law makers.
Jay, I agree the parents need to teach their children, however when the law takes your right as a parent to discipline your child and threaten to put you in jail if you whip your child then that is where the law has once again failed the public. We as parents can teach our children respect but it does not mean that our children will do by it.
I'm not even talking about physical discipline from parents. How would these kids feel if their precious iPods, video games and TVs were taken away from them? That would hurt them more than a beating. I've seen my neighbor's kids severely talk back to them and the parents just walk away and say nothing, no "talk to me like that you won't get to play with your Playstation for 3 months" or "I'll sell your iPod on ebay" nothing. How can they learn respect if their parents allow them to be disrespectful? When I was a kid and talked back to my parents, all my toys were taken away, my Nintendo was taken away and I couldn't watch TV, I had to sit in an empty room staring at the wall or was forced to read something, I didn't want that and I quickly learned how to not be a disrespectful brat.
jay... when I was a kid I got a beating and my toys taken away. Hell, back then proclaiming innocence was considered back talk. "All suspects were guilty, or else you were not a suspect". The recommended treatment for ADHD was beatings. I realize it was a different world but at least my high school didn't have any rapes. We did have a murder, but it was drug related (apparently a few forward-thinking parents didn't threaten their kids lives if caught with drugs).
Yes it did. It was just swept under the rug back then. Same with the cheerleaders back then. Abortions were kept hush hush.
Parents went to great lengths to keep their kids out of that type of spotlight back then. It was more so to preserve the parents image instead of the childs.
Jay The money is given not to solve the problem but to try to ease the memory of her being battered
Jay, we do raise money - its called taxes!
What I don't understand is why the hell do they not do anything to the kids??? My youngest just turned 23 and when he went to school traveling on a bus, any wrong doing on the bus, 1st time, they had a warning. 2nd time off the bus for one day, 3rd time, off the bus 1 week and 4th time, LOST ALL BUS RIDING FOR THAT SCHOOL YEAR. How hard can that be??? Then you bust your kids ass after the 1st, 2nd time and you NEVER have to worry about it again!!!
LOVE your name and avatar by the way! Go Steelers!
Steelermama....................that is so brutal!
I agree....................bust their ass and it wont happen again!
I've not been a fan of Matt Lauer for his interview tactics however, I must give credit where credit is due. He NAILED it on this one. His comments and genuine apology on behalf of the kids on the bus was exemplary. I got emotional.
It is a shame, that these caretakers are not taken care of.
Brats. No respect or boundaries.
Wow over $200k's..kids come to my house and bully me please..I'm broke...no vacation wanted just need money to eat and pay rent.
I know, one heck of a vacation for that kind of money.
You're over qualified.
Probably good that it won't happen to me; I'd just waste it on hookers and blow.
They should bully me too.
I want a vacation.
You're over qualified.
We can all agree that these children were way out of line and definitely deserve to be punished for their actions. However, it's obvious this woman was incapable of performing the job of bus monitor...what if this had been happening to a child?! She didn't even attempt to issue a verbal reprimand! She claims not to have heard all the nasty, vicious, things they were saying...and not sure if that's because she's slightly hearing impaired. It looks like she wears hearing aids. Need a 'Madea' on that bus...
I also don't see the reasoning for people to donate that amount of money to a stranger over a verbal attack. She isn't a victim of a crime that resulted in a financial crisis. There are probably neighbors, family, and church members, right in their midst that have a greater financial burden who could benefit from their donations.
Seems to be many folks on her suffering from envy illness. I guess I'm not surprised as you're seeing it play out in our politics intensely these days.
ethnic sounds like one of those clueless parents who raises embicilles and bullies.
The disrespect kids show today is unbelievable. Their parents are to blame for this hateful, selfish, unrepentant behavior. In my school district, I have seen horrible behavior committed by kids of all ages. I have seen the district attempt to discipline children and then see the parents come in and bully the district employees to get the district to back down. The parent's bombard the district with non-stop complaining and harassment. They complain that the penalty does not meet the crime, they threaten to sue, they talk to the newspaper and minimise their children's behavior, on and on. If I ever got a complaint about my son's behavior, I trusted the school to do their punishment appropriately for the situation and let my son suffer the consequences. Sad situation all around. How can we expect the bullying to stop, when the kids treat adults like this?
Whynotm I so disagree with you, The law has taken the right of the parents to discipline their children, and they have taken the discipline out of schools. I am old school and you can count on if my child or my grand child needed their butts whipped I would and will do it. So you need to place the blame where it belongs.
Rose, I do not see how you can say I am not placing the blame on the parents. Did you read it? Clearly by the behavior of these kids while on school property it is the right of the district to discipline (and I am not talking about butt whipping if that is what you thought I meant) these kids. They deserve at home suspension, in school suspension, removal from the bus ridership, etc. Their parents have not taken discipline seriously if they kids felt free to totally distroy that woman with their words. Their parents did not do a good job or this would not have happened! We let the court system displine under age law violators, then why not the school system where they are turned over to for many hours a day. Come on!
Whynot, in some state these little low-class genetic defects could be arrested for assault. And should be!
I agree Concerned citizen..............what a waste of sperm!
i agree with ya juliandd
Bit excessive for a bus monitor. While I am sorry she was bullied, and believe what those kids said was very mean and wrong, she is the bus monitor. I wonder why she didn't do something about it. By her title (and also her longevity of driving a bus for 20 years), she was in the position of power and authority. She must have known how to deal with that behavior by this point in her life and career. After all, it's likely a routine part of her job (as much as generations like to bicker, kids really haven't changed). In addition, she had sons of her own. And, donating $200k to her seems a bit excessive. Something in this story is missing...
Lol @ Mike. Me 2
I would like to see a follow up what happens to the kinds. That whats wrong, especially saying that her son killed himself because he don't want to be with her.....
They need to have their bully asses whipped and know what hard labor is for the summer! BUT, I am sure mommy and daddy will justify their behavior as just boys!
This is crazy, You want to blame adults, then blame those who took spanking out of our schools, those who say as a parent we can't whip our children and we could go to jail for it. I am glad my are grown, however I would still whip my child even at the risk of going to jail for it. The law has made it hard to discipline our children this is why our children have no regard for their elders or each other.
Hitting someone to teach them not to hit others is unproductive and just reinforces the bad behavior.
Funny how it is deemed "assault" when an adult hits another adult...but kids? That's called "discipline"...even though they are smaller than an adult.
If I had a child and someone at the school ever physically punished them, there would be hell to pay. I hope you don't have children. And if you do, I hope someone calls CPS on you for "whipping" them.
Hitting actually works pretty damn well. If you ran a stop light, and the punishment was an unholy ass whippin' with nightsticks, I think that might make you think twice before running a red light again... a LOT more effective than an $80 traffic ticket, or traffic school.
I'd probably do the same...unfortunately parents today are in denial...despite the video they'd come up with some f$%* up reason why their child behaved the way they did...it happens in some of the worse classrooms, but only thing happen is the teacher gets fired...
I'm local to this school and while I graduated a few years ago, I still live in the area and all I can say is that all the high schoolers running around have always been such trouble makers so this doesn't surprise me at all, but I want to beat the hell out of those boys for harrassing that poor woman so badly.
When my son was sixteen he taunted one of his teachers, laughed in her face when the teacher tried to correct my son. The teacher called me at my home because she was so upset. My son was bigger than me, played several sports including lettering in wrestling.
When my son got home that after noon, I grabbed him by the front of his shirt and said ok, your a bad azz lets see how tough you really are. I dragged him in the back yard, cuffed him with an open hand and said lets ok go chicken chit. I think, that day my son learned to respect all people.
BTW I'm happy to say that no more swinging took place.
Those were the good old days. Every boy needs a man to show him where he fits in the world. Congratulations. An MS in Psych.
JERRY! You are the kind of parent who should talk to the bullies parents!
Good for you!!! That is exactly what needed to happen. If I had ever talked to an adult like that or treated anyone the way that poor lady was treated i would have been bleeding a spitting out my teeth for a long while. I raise my children the same way I was raised and yes that means they do get spanked. Getting a spanking is not a beating, its called DISCIPLINE. Which is what 75% of kids these days are lacking.
Future members of Congress.
Why are people acting surprised by this activity? It takes kids doing it to an old lady that make people notice? Kids have been doing this forever primarily to other children especially if they are perceived to be weak or gay. We've been trying to get anti-bullying policies spread nation wide, but no one give a crap till an old lady gets bullied on a bus. Glad y'all are taking notice now, but screw you for the screw the gays attitude this country has taken in the past.
My Jr & Sr high schools were pretty bad for bullying (back in the 70's). Not the violent type, just the constant insult type when adults weren't around. Guys in particular, if you showed any sign of an IQ, were a target. An article "Why Nerds are Unpopular" pretty much explains why bullying exists. It's pretty much the social structure of secondary school that breed this problem, as they have much in common with prisons (it makes sense when you examine the parallels). Until the school culture is changes, no amount of money thrown at the problem will correct it, or our education system in general.
No Way! We don't need more laws we need less laws. This was an old lady they hurt and ganged up on - that's the point. You never do that to an old man or lady period. Curtis Beau Jackson please don't change the subject to f@gz - their behavior is shameful and should be called for what it is, perversion. Shame is good, makes you think about your behavior. Bullying an old lady is not, we'll all be old one day.
Isn't it something how kids are not to be ridiculed, made fun of, made an example of, etc, etc for fear of them Being hurt ? Yet these same kids are the ones who do this same thing to adults, KNOWING adults cannot say a damned thing back or else they will cry ? -- I am an old school conservative and had I seen YOU doing this to a woman my own mothers age, YOU would have been the butt of the joke.. You kids can dish it but CANNOT take it... You will be the most sensitive, whiny population of adults who cry at every moment.... I would have followed your ass home and told your parents what you did... You would deny it, your overprotective Liberal parents would deny it and then hire a lawyer to try and ridicule ME for telling the truth about you and your parents who probably raised you to make fun of others.