So true..don't like it.Change the laws.

Let Jerry collect his pension with the stipulation that it all goes to his victims. They deserve compensation from that scum bag.

Mrs Dusky gets to live out her years well and without all that pesky screaming from the basement.

I sincerely hope Sandusky passes away quickly, so the State of Pennsylvania won't have to pay the full amount of his pension for years to come. I am an Alabama fan, but I cheer for Penn State when they aren't playing an SEC team. Penn State fans are good people, and as friendly as you will find anywhere. I'll be happy when they can put this mess behind them.

Pennsylvania's public officials or retirees are required to forfeit their pensions under the State Employees' Retirement System (SERS) if they commit "certain crimes that breach the member's duty of faithful and honest public service." The list does not include sex crimes.

If sexual abuse and rape - especially when it involves children - does not fit the bill of "certain crimes that breach the member's duty of faithful and honest public service", then what the hell does???

Once again, your tax dollars at work.

This is a perfect example of why public employees should never have been allowed to form unions. Sandusky and his family should be entitled to NOTHING.

I sincerely doubt Sandusky is a member of any public employee union.

He is a Republican, they are not fans of Unions anyway.

Loop holes are'nt there by mistake, they are formed into contracts by lawyers for a reason. We have thousands of them everywhere, if we did'nt have loop holes we would'nt need lawyers.

yep those penn state fans are great. they stood behind their pedophile till the bitter end and the coach who covered up for him. paterno was as big a scum bag as sandusky.

It appears that everyone wants to kiss his a*$, the disgusting sob.

I'n sorry but it's ignorant to say that sex crimes were deliberately left off the list of reasons to forfeit pensions. Do you really think that when the people were sitting around a table drafting these rules, that when they were voting yes or no on the list, they actually agreed and said "yeah sex crimes aren't that bad, leave it off"? If you do, you need to remove a few layers of tinfoil.

It's much more likely it was simply missed, which I'm sure will be added asap.

Doesn't deserve the pension money? Hell, he doesn't deserve the money it's going to cost to incarcerate him!

@nononono - really? is that why the so called "penn state jury" convicted him on 45 counts, effectively sentencing him to 400+ years in jail? Not to mention his house was continously vandalized. but keep talking out of ur a.s$, more entertainment for us.

Of course this creep is going to get hit with plenty of civil suits..but one thing they can't touch..and that's his pension (if he gets one)!

Recall the OJ trial and Mr. Brown the father of the young guy killed..he won a civil suit against OJ ( didn't get much yet) but OJ's NFL pension is hands off by law. So this creep Sandusky will keep his pension ..IF Penis State gives it to him..he would of been dismissed for bad conduct if not arrested and that's reasons for no pension given then.

Okay, here it is and after reading through it, looks to me like 4702, 4906, 4952 and / or 5301 might fit the bill for forfeiture. Any attorneys out here tonight???

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=593234&mode=2

You're welcome. ☺

The state should sue him for the expense of his incarceration.

I am just glad that this creep was finally caught and brought to justice. There are still a lot of skeletons in this story that still need to be found.

One other thing that is reprehensible is what Pennsylvania Rep. Brendan Boyle said in a statement. "He certainly doesn't deserve to continue to enjoy the benefit of a taxpayer-funded pension."

He probably thought to himself, "what a great opportunity to rile up the masses against government pensions". Just read any Republican politician's blog. There's always something about pension reform. How government employees are stealing from taxpayers. I'm sick of it.

Just reiforcement to the fact that they allow this type of thing to go on.

Sandusky isnt worth the money it would cost to kill him.I give him maybe 3 years and he'll be exicuted in jail.I hope its agonizing!He deserves worse.They should casterate him w/o any painkillers.He literally killed these kids childhood.Death To Sandusky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

msfruhauf

Thank you for your input as useless as it is.

Mrs. Sandusky should be in jail next to him.Then the inmates could excersize justice against them both.Shes as guilty as he is.She allowed it and did nothing.Who knows she probably got her rocks off knowing it was happening.Death To The Sanduskys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mightymoustache

You must be a pedophile too.You are an idiot!Nuff said!

For chefaz. The counts for conviction were

Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse: 8

Indecent assault: 7

Criminal intent to commit indecent assault: 1

Unlawful contact with minors: 9

Corruption of minors: 10

Endangering welfare of children: 10

These are not in the list of crimes which will remove your pension. For 4702, a prosecutor would need to prove that he demonstrated threats or improper influence using his official position. That wasn't one of the counts he was convicted of so there would need to be an additional trial. For 4906, they would have to demonstrate that he lied to authorities. Would also require a second trial but it would probably be the most likely to result in a conviction. Although, maintaining innocence after a conviction isn't actually considered lying to authorities, they would have to demonstrate he made false statements to police during the investigation I believe. For 4952, a prosecutor would have to show that he intimidated witnesses against him. That one might be difficult because one of his victims that came forward later and said "they were intimidated and that's why they lied to the police" wouldn't make a so-so witness. The defense could bring up reasonable doubt as to their credibility. For 5301, I would need a better definition of official oppression, but at the moment, I don't see how that really applies to this case without stretching the definition quite a bit.

But, regardless of the possibility for conviction on these 4 possible counts, he wasn't actually convicted of any of these during the trial. So, attempting to remove those benefits without a conviction on one of those counts would be very unlikely to be successful because the legal system is very strict when it comes to the wording of a law.

Thanks very much for the information, doggysaywhat. I had hoped that this was all "grey" enough to prevent sandusky from collecting his pension. No matter. The most important thing here is that sandusky will not be able to abuse any more children ever.

This weirdo gets to keep his pension because the whole town is full of child raping supporting freaks. You can't commit all those crimes alone. People at the school knew, the DA, the home for kids, his nieghbors, and his wife. OF COURSE he gets to keep the money he's probably their hero...

sadiemae14 -

"We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike" - Adolph Hitler, 2-May 1933.

Indeed some unions are corrupt and greedy, but they are no different than corporations that use lobbyist to get what they want as well.

As for this article, Sandusky should voluntarily surrender his pension. As far as I am concerned, anyone that is tried and convicted of a felony is no longer entitled to it.

Why were specific crimes listed anyway? Why not simply say, if you're convicted of a felony, you lose your pension? Too simple I guess. The lawyers would make themselves unnecessary.

Mike, Mr. Brown was Nicole Simpson's father. Ron Goldman was not a young boy, he was a 26 year old man and his father's name was Fred Goldman.

More than likely it will all go towards his victim's lawsuits eventually. I am willing to bet that these few that testified are only the tip of the iceberg. More will come and have lawsuits of their own. Anyways, what good is money when your spending the rest of your life in prison? There is only a limited amount of things prisoners can purchase. So he'll be able to purchase some extra toliet paper. After he gets whats coming to him by the other inmates, he will probably need it! Vaseline too...

It's a shame what the law allows through loopholes. These loopholes should be closed immediately, and all that money should go to his victims.

Even if the loophole was closed, it would not apply retroactively.

I would not fault the union as much as the 'good ol' boys' network. God forbid any sex crime make you loose your money, since most sex crimes are against women.

I also feel that any crime against a child, especially by someone associated with a school, should be within the realm to loose your benefits. Crimes against children have been ignored for too long!

Exactly. Straight from the pension fund to the victims in care of J. Sandusky sounds right.

they'll just change the address on the checks... from penn state... to state penn....

they'll just change the address on the checks... from penn state... to state penn....

~ba-dum tshh~

Good play on words, plain bob.

WTG bob. you rock!!! ☺

OJ's pension from the NFL was exempt from the civil judgement against him. My bet is Sandusky's will be also. The courts can't touch it and Penn state can't withhold it.

What do you expect from a liberal Collage pervert!!!! Sandusky voted for Obama......

Ah...the first post to throw Obama's name in supefluously.

That means Obama has nothing to do with this subject!!

lee-936758

What do you expect from a liberal Collage pervert!!!! Sandusky voted for Obama......

The stupidity of some of the comments is astounding. Heads up genius, Sandusky was a Republican. Take your pathetic Obama whining someplace where they actually give a sh*t.

Thank you.Its about time.

How much money does Sandusky need, he will get three meals a day, cable tv, health club membership at no cost to him, but from the taxpayers. The more I think about, just execute the @$$hle.

He's going to state prison not federal.

are u certain he is going to state prison ... he should head to a nice place where he can be molested on a daily basis and they can call him by his bitch name

Yes positive, State prison for ole Jer. I hope it would be Graterford. He'd just love that place.

Actually it may be protected from law suits. If I remember OJ was living very nicely off his retirement and pension here in FL because the Goldman's couldn't touch it.

That's true, but he has been b___hing that his daughter is living high off the hog on it while he is in prison.

he will need a butt plug too!

nono, there are plenty of butt plugs available to Sandusky in prison. No shortage, maybe in the daylight, but not the night.

"He's going to be stuck in prison till he's almost dead"

Do you really think he'll out live a 460+ year sentence? :-)

Nah. due to overcrowding, he'll be out in ten.

Sports dad's, lock up your sons! Jerry's back!

Do you really think she didn't know after all these years??? Puhleese

sing it ; ; dot...dot...dottie...good bye...dot...dot...dottie don't cry...

she is an accessory to the fact and should be in prison too.

And Dottie's thinkin' "oh boy, more money!"

Anyone who states "Well he's not going to live long in prison anyway" - well, even I hope he has a miserable existence (short or long, I'm torn) for the heinous crimes he committed. But allowing a pedophile to collect a State Pension when he committed violent felony crimes against children...in the state university (locker rooms) based on his state job position - Penn St coach he should not get even one month's payment. Nor his wife when he passes. If it goes to the victims, meh, okay but somehow still feels dirty allowing him to get taxpayer money, even if it's just as a conduit to repay victims.

Agree with zazztacular. In addition, even though sex crimes are not specifically listed, "Section 4113 (relating to misapplication of entrusted property and property of government or financial institutions) when the criminal culpability reaches the level of misdemeanor of the second degree." is one of the grounds for forfeiting state pension. Sandusky's misapplication of the Penn State locker room, football tickets and other entrusted property to advance his perverted acts not only far exceeds the level of misdemeanor but sadly damaged many lives and brought disgrace to the University. He should NOT be able to keep his pension.

For Texan. It would be possible to obtain a conviction for that particular crime. However, that is not in the current list of crimes for which he was convicted. That is why he would be likely to keep his pension if there was a motion to remove it. Removal of the pension would probably require a second trial with additional charges. Seeing as he is already likely to get a life sentence or the equivalent in terms of years, he would be unlikely to cooperate as no prosecutor would offer him any sort of meaningful reduced sentence. He could easily drag a second trail on for an extremely long time with various motions without any consideration towards the wrath of the prosecutor should they win.

The law is often better when strict in the wording so as to not allow a prosecutor to apply a law in a way it was not intended. However, this can lead to loopholes when those writing the law do not fully think through the application of the law and possible cases that would arise due to the law. We see an example of this. Those that wrote the law which allows them to remove a pension did not foresee a possible sex abuse case and did not add such terms as a section. It could have been simplified somewhat if the definition for removal was "Conviction of a State or Federal Felony". However, in any legal system, improperly written laws and the faults of them lie upon those that initially wrote it and those that have the ability to write laws but didn't address it until a case arose.

mna-1131201

He wont have to pay for sex in jail.He will have it forced on him the way he forced it on the victims.It wont be pleasurable this time.Death to the Sanduskys.Both of them!!!!!!!!

I really doubt anybody is going to have sex with Sandusky. People wish it but is there any prisoner who would WANT to have sex with him? More likely some hard lifers will make some young kid rape him.

i feel good...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iketdJ5s4pI&feature=related

crap, bob. that claymation creature looks just like him. c r e e p y!!! good find.

Dottie is as guilty as a get-away driver.

pensions are history. if the people who pay the wages for these people can not get a pension anymore they sure should not have to pay for other peoples pension thru their taxes. nothing could be more fair or reasonable.

she knew what was going on. don't fool yourself. she, just like paterno could have stopped him a long time ago. but they both chose to turn their backs on those little boys for their own self interests.

JR-315693

You're right.It doesnt happen,but it should.I think maybe that might change.No taxpayer should have to pay for the existance of this scum.If you think we should then you are on another planet.WTF is you malfunction except your a state employee!

JR-315693

Oblivious

Yes you are.You believe she had no idea over probably 15-20 years.Are you nuts?She knew and covered for him.He molested his adopted kid for Christs sake.You are oblivious!

You call following the rules raping kids.You are misinformed,delusional,and who knows what else.Probably a Penn State employee.

BT1000, you are 100% correct in everything you say and do! You are the perfect one! Your opinions are the ONLY ones allowed! I'll bet your IQ is over 45, and you completed at least the 10th grade! Why don't you apply to be a judge? Perhaps you can understand why you would never qualify! Did it ever occur to you that people who stand in front of judges and juries are also real live human beings? BT1000, are you really and truly without sin??

EK Kadiddlehopper

No freedom of speech in your world.I dont need to defend myself to you.Everyone can read here,that is unless your kid is reading this for you.

I'm still trying to figure it out.You are either a catholic priest,or for some reason you have internet access somehow in jail,Mr. Sandusky.

That's why she stood by her pedophile man,,, for the money. She should be in jail too.

his wife needs to buy her some hearing aids. she couldn't hear a kid screaming while being raped.

the mama don't know...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWVh0c5-3M

Carol 38

She was his rape lookout and accomplice.Are u serious?

His wife had everything to do with the crimes. She covered for him for the money. She allowed her own foster-son and others to be abused. They should sue her for every dime they can.

Yeah,he paid in.But the rest comes from tax payers.Do you want to speak for them too?What about the victims?Not fair is fair.Just like the CIA whores and drunks.They shouldn/t be allowed to collect a dime.I dont care if they personally save the prez once before.The clowns all think ther're above the law.Break it and you should lose everything.

Rich-739174

Ha,Where do you think the money the state invested came from.The state has no money,its taxpayers money.You are a prime example that government employees have no concern of how OUR money is spent.Wake TF up.

Pensions are SUPPOSED to work that way, Rich. Sad fact of the matter is that current pols squander your contributions trying to buy current votes. Screw tomorrow, 'I'll be in the state house, or Congress, then it's someone else's problem,' they say.

You raise an interesting idea: the criminal pays for his incarceration (within his means, at least).

I wonder what the Frames of the Bill of Rights would think about taking away a lifetime pension for committing a single crime. Isn't there a Constitutional ban on excessive fines? Would confiscating hundreds of thousands in accrued pension benefits constitute an excessive fine?

is this about confiscating hundreds of thousands in accrued pension benefits from someone committing a single crime?

@Tiki Man - at least 45 crimes, and all of them beyond despicable: the sexual abuse of a minor is about as bad as you can get.