Police: Adult 'provoked' small children to fight on camera

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Authorities in California are trying to identify the people responsible for a video that showed two young children fighting.

In the video, titled "My nephew messed him up for picking on his home boy," two boys are seen kicking, punching and choking each other while an adult shooting the video eggs them on.

An adult voice in the video can be heard saying, "Get off the ground, Charlie."


The video ends when a child breaks up the fight.

Someone found the video -- first posted on Facebook -- and reported it to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

Sheriff's officials said it appeared the kids were being "provoked by an adult."

“What’s most disturbing is that there are adults nearby that are not stopping it,” department spokesperson Cindy Bachman, "The adults that are seen in the video are not setting any kind of example for these children."

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"It’s our responsibility -- if we have information, if we know who these people are -- to call in."

The location of the fight and the time it was taken were unknown.

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what is this world coming to?

  • 13 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

Losers spawning future losers.

  • 12 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

It's lazy, ignorant, scum of the earth, sitting on their butts at home, having children they have no ability to care for, living off our tax dollars and doing whatever they want, that's what the world HAS come to.

  • 11 votes
#1.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

the fall of a short lived empire.

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

Gotta teach them how to be a thug for life from a young age... that's what going on!

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:38 AM EDT

It's lazy, ignorant, scum of the earth, sitting on their butts at home, having children they have no ability to care for, living off our tax dollars and doing whatever they want, that's what the world HAS come to.

Dude - what fantasy world do you live in? this kind of crap happens in more economic groups than the welfare/unemployed folks that you feel some warped necessity to whine about.

Your neighbor down the street that makes more money that you, the guy who runs the grocery store around the corner, your next door neighbor, a father of another kid on your son's baseball team all are the kind of moron that does this kind of stuff.

So if you're going to blame a class of people - you need to include the ones who will actually do it.

You know - like this last weekend a hockey coach in Vancouver Canada (obviously well employed) who blatantly and intentionally tripped and knocked to the ground an opposing team's player on the ice after the game as some sort of retaliation, which caused the kid to break his wrist.

Yeah, only loser scum living off your tax dollars do that kind of thing. Right......

  • 8 votes
#1.5 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

Great response Sarge! It is gladdening to know the USMC still has people like you (albeit retired) that can use their heads. You are a fine example of our men and women in the Armed Services.

Around where I live, this happens at games my 7 YO Nephew plays in all the time, and most of the parents make $100K or more. Earning/spending power does not equal brain power. Too many parents/Adults now think that violence is an answer, and are teaching that to children, so there goes another generation. Hate is learned, and if you don't teach it to a child, they never learn to use it. Unfortunately Hate is also a classless socioeconomic neutral act, and anyone can espouse it and revel in it, up to its inevitable conclusion of violence. Will the Uncle who shot this video and posted it be so happy when his Nephew grows up and kills someone? Maybe, but I hope to all that is Divine the answer would be no, but the cycle has already started :(

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:57 AM EDT
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It is interesting that when a study of serial killers was made by investigative journalists, a subset was found with the history of being forced by a parent to fight with a sibling during their childhood. The killers were the ones who experienced frequent severe beatings.

The parents instigating this should do jail time and after investigation, the children should be taken by child protective services, if necessary.

  • 17 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

While I don't agree with adults egging the fight on sometimes kids become friends after they settle their difference with a fight. They are so young they can't really hurt each other.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

@ clarkjoebob,

Perfect, teach kids to settle their differences by fighting. Then you wonder why your child was gunned down at such a young age.

  • 18 votes
#3.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

Confussed,

There was an unspoken rule that no tools of any sort were allowed in a fight when I was a kid...just like you almost never saw two against one unless the one was much older and deserved it. Our fights had rules that all kids seemed to inherently understand. Prevent your kids from experiencing reality and they will be victims for life.

  • 7 votes
#3.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

What do you mean, "they are so young they can't really hurt each other"?? Obviously you know @!$%# about children and I hope you never have them.

  • 15 votes
#3.3 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

Charle7834

Don't you remember being a child? I never saw anything worse than a fat lip, bloody nose or rarely a black eye. If your going to shelter your boy from that you are doing a major disservice to him. Look at the kids in vid and you'll see nothing worse then bruised ego. And in fact that was by far the worst injuries I remember--some one got shamed from a smaller peer pinning him perhaps. The shame could be sever.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

Actually I do have kids and Me and your mother are expecting another one soon.

  • 7 votes
#3.5 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

Kids did fight. Kids do fight. Kids get small injuries. It's what kids do. But NEVER in the presence of a mature adult who should have stopped it. It's what ADULTS are SUPPOSED to do.

  • 17 votes
#3.6 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

So many posters here advocating for teaching young children to use violence to resolve their differences. It's no wonder there is so much violence in the society and in the world.

"Yo dog! You dissing me!" SLAM BANG!

  • 6 votes
#3.7 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

@clarkjoebob....finally, voice of reason..nice post!!

  • 3 votes
#3.8 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

There was an unspoken rule that no tools of any sort were allowed in a fight

Fuel - "There was" being the key phrase. Today the winner is decided by who pull the glock the fastest.

  • 6 votes
#3.9 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:43 AM EDT

I am just stunned to read posts from people who think they should teach their children to fight. I wasn't taught to fight, and I am a professional with a graudate degree, a spouse, and a child and am in my 40s. How was I able to get to where I am without my parents having forced me to learn to fight? I am incredulous!

  • 3 votes
#3.10 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:59 AM EDT

@Alex-1216059 I was taught to defend myself growing up, I have a friend who has a crooked nose to this day because of it. Am I a thug? No. Have I ever started a fight? No. Was I bullied? Yes, until I started to defend myself then it all stopped. Am I a productive member of society? Yes, I farm, raise cattle, and work in the oil field. Have I ever been arrested? No. Just because you know how to fight or are taught to fight doesn't mean you're a miscreant.
Anyone in the US these days can be a professional (hookers are professionals) get a graduate degree, marry someone, have a child, and be 40 years old. What you're bragging about is nothing, but if that's what you need to full fill your self centered pretentious ego you really need to realign your priorities.

  • 1 vote
#3.11 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

Jeff-2879620 - there's a big difference between knowing how to fight / defend yourself and having adults cause children to fight and then egg them on in the fight. I agree with you on that.

Defending yourself is fine.

Fighting as a replacement for other entertainment for adults is wrong at all levels.

  • 3 votes
#3.12 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

That is not the same thing, a fight breaking out on the school yard, on its own, is one thing but parents standing around chanting like its a freakin fight club is sick. I grew up in a neighborhood like this and I can tell you that the kids who had parents like that are not your winners now. I got in fights, everyone does but for the adults to stand around while a KID breaks up the fight is just sad. That kid had more dignity then the parents watching it happen

  • 3 votes
#3.13 - Sun Jul 1, 2012 7:12 PM EDT
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This is so disturbing!!! i do hope the parents or so called adults do jail time...With the problems of the world today...And what the children have to struggle with...these people are poor excuses of parents..(adults)..

  • 11 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

That's how you raise boys too be real men. Good Job whoever the adult was whom encouraged the children to scrap. I would have done the samething.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

Yeah, you look like you would.

  • 10 votes
#5.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

Please don't try to teach them English!

  • 12 votes
#5.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

Bluesman Doc, I believe Donald Price was using something called sarcasm, well I HOPE so.

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

Donald Price - Its too bad someone didn't cap your sorry ugly ass a long time ago

  • 3 votes
#5.4 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

You sound like an idiot. I hope that you don't have children.

  • 2 votes
#5.5 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

gremlinz12:"Donald Price - Its too bad someone didn't cap your sorry ugly ass a long time ago"

So teaching kids to SHOOT people is better?

Gremlinz12 you sound highly intelligent . . .. .

  • 5 votes
#5.6 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

You would have done the same thing because you your mother didn't have a clue how to raise you. That's why your such a moron now, and its also why you have no clue how to raise your kids. You have no clue about what a real man is, so how can you comment on how to raise a child to be a man?

  • 5 votes
#5.7 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:36 PM EDT

Dude's nephew and his homeboy are sure to be two of the tougher guys on the block, cell block that is.

  • 3 votes
#5.8 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:46 AM EDT
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Same idiots watch cockfights and dog fights. Nothing surprising here. Entire subculture of monsters.

  • 10 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

It's always the people who are too big of a coward to personally engage in that kind of violence who get their rocks off the most watching other people and animals fight.

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:21 PM EDT
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Sure it's not impressive adult behavior but kids fights are about as common as kids and they really don't have the ability to hurt each other at that age. For years one of my brothers fought one of the neighbors almost daily and he turned out to be a high powered engineer.

What's this world coming to that ppl could actually think this is unusual? If it's not parents doing the instigating its their peers or bigger kids. Just part of growing up.

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

All of that might be true, but I remember adults breaking up fights...not egging them on. I also remember having to apologize and shake hands. I'm just saying this could/should have been handled a little differently.

  • 7 votes
#7.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

blakkat320, right on. I'm sure the parent egging the other kid would be thinking twice about encouraging violence if his own child ended up with a cracked skull, a broken nose, or even a stab wound.

  • 5 votes
#7.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

Hot-in-Miami

Yeah. Or maybe they will use hand grenades on each other!!!

I understand the motherly tendency to shield their boy from ALL danger--And I have seen the pitiful results as those kids became timid young adults too afraid to do anything worth while with their lives and have no idea how to fend for themselves. Some recovered from it some don't but all pay a very high price. ((This is where a little fatherly input is a good thing typically.))

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:00 PM EDT
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ClarkJoeBob, you sound like a bully. This is not yesteryear. Kids where I live now fight with guns. The adults ARE setting an example--just the wrong one.

  • 7 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

And then let's blame their teachers later in life when they can't control them and get them to pass the state tests. It all starts at home, folks.

  • 7 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

Hats off to the kid that broke it up.

  • 20 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

Ditto. That child is certainly more mature than the adults involved.

  • 18 votes
#10.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:42 PM EDT
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So much for adults setting a good example, when the adults are acting like kids themselves!

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

When I was a boy some 65 to 70 years ago, if two boys had a dispute that couldn't be settled verbally they had at each other in a field or in the woods. Each usually had his supporters. Most of us were told by our parents not to start a fight, but if someone starts a fight with you give it your best. Don't disgrace yourself by being a coward and chickening out or running away bawling the first time you get hit. We did fine and learned to get along as we got older.

Nowadays, parents sue each other, the schools, the parks department, or whomever every time kids settle their differences in the time honored way. Males are born warriors and fornicators. Male humans are not as different from other male mammals as some humans would like to think. Yes, sometimes something goes wrong. Someone gets hurt more badly than the issue warranted. But life is full of risks. Rites of passage in one form or another will always be with us.

  • 5 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

When did you start warring and fornicating?

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

kountryking: And when do you teach your son the manly art of fornicating? Would you encourage him to hump some little girl the same as you'd encourage violence against another child?

  • 3 votes
#12.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:19 PM EDT
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Yes, kids fight, but parents need to step in and stop it, otherwise the mentality is to fight and not think when they grow up.

  • 6 votes
Reply#13 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

That big fat dude's picture should be posted on Wikipedia under the definition of "White Trash".

I say put that fat dude in the Octagon with an MMA fighter and let him show us how tough he is...

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

If it was adults using dogs or chickens, a whole lot of people would be screaming about stopping this activity. Adults getting kids to fight for their entertainment? eeh. Most people won't care. Matter of fact, quiet a few will copy the horrible act.

  • 3 votes
Reply#15 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

surprising to see in this day and age, but not surprising in real life...look at the spartans, the samurai, all the warriors of the past before guns came to the scene...kids were trained and taught to fight to be warriors. not necessary in this day and age, but it does have its appeal...as a father myself, i know we all want our kids to be stronger than others. but that time is gone, the warrior's time. nowadays bullets rule. it's counterproductive to teach kids how to fight when they'll likely be gunned down if they challenge someone...but then, i want my kid to be bruce lee...

    Reply#16 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

    "Gangbangers: The Next Generation"

    • 1 vote
    Reply#17 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

    Kids should learn how to fight at an early age. They recover faster and need to learn how to defend themselves with their hands.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#18 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

    Hi Ryan, I think that a child learning how to defend him/herself is one thing, but when you have grown ass adults encouraging them to be violent and abusive to each other is a totally different thing.

    Yes children and young people will get into confrontations, and for the most part as long as no one is inciting it to go on and on, it usually resolves itself.

    But again, when you have these over grown adults intimidating and influencing them, they continue to fight and get more violent because an adult is cheering it on.

    The adults should be ashamed of themselves! I have a nephew and I would immediately stop a fight because I would not want him to get hurt or the next person nephew to get hurt. Yes, they must learn to defend themselves but this is not that kind of situation.

    Two very cute little boys out there just acting simply UGLY.

    • 7 votes
    #18.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

    Ryan-4241538 it is possible for a child to learn how to defend themselves without practicing on another child's face. Dude ....do society a favor and don't have kids.

    • 6 votes
    #18.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:28 PM EDT
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    And we wonder where all the violence is coming from, hum.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#19 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

    i'll tell you all a little story. 5 years ago my son was a junior in high school. a group of boys thought they could bully my son. one day my son got tired of turning the other cheek. he was challenged to a fight by this group of boys. well i showed up with my son to this fight. made each little punk fight my son one on one. each one had their butts handed to them. these punks never even looked in the direction of my son again. moral of the story get your facts straight before you go assuming what happened.

      Reply#20 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

      That's a nice story. However your son choose to fight......he was not forced to fight for someone else's entertainment.

      • 3 votes
      #20.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

      my point exactly. this story doesn't really go into any details except a adult voice in the back ground. the adult could have been a family member tired of his family being picked on ,or bullied. maybe he was just a a-hole trying to be entertained. who really knows?

        #20.2 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

        @21railroader I read about a case in the Chicago area a couple months ago where a mother drove her teen daughter to fight another teen girl. The mother was charged with a crime.

        I don't agree with bullying and in fact had a group of bullies in my neighborhood. One day one of them was sitting behind me on the bus and kept hitting me in the back of my head. Finally I got fed up and decked the kid in the face. That was the last time they did anything to me. So yes standing up to bullies works but my parents certainly didn't encourage me to physically fight back.

          #20.3 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:00 AM EDT
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          Being poor or a minority does not mean you have to be ghetto. The kids in the fight are only fallowing the adults lead.........and sadly those adults are allowed to lead children. I think the government should off $1000 to ALL lower class females to get their tubes tied. This would save all taxpayers millions in the coming years. Something to think about.

            Reply#21 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

            no where in this story does it say anything about being poor or anyone being a minority.

            • 1 vote
            #21.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:59 PM EDT
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            If America wants to be able to protect itself, whether from foreign occupiers or Wall Street con artists, it is necessary for Americans to teach their kids how to fight.

              Reply#22 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

              You are a moron wrapped in an idiot, stuffed in a buffoon.

              • 4 votes
              #22.1 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:23 PM EDT
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              With the exception of the adult egging them on.. I see no foul in what the kids were doing.. Hell my son and daughter fight each other harder than that and they are play fighting.. lol.. But the story here is the adults were watching and where egging the kids to fight.. Now of course we will never know the whole story or video (if there was prior footage).. However.. For all we know maybe the adults were egging on in a joking matter. Being that they probably didn't see anyone really getting hurt.. Who knows.. ???? We have to wait and see.. Now for the record.. I grew up in Red Hook Projects in Brooklyn NY. Dad Rule num 1.. You fought your battles or dealt with him.. He always said.. "You do not fight to win.. You fight to gain respect" He has us even taking karate classes. Sorry to those that say he was wrong.. But do your research on Red Hook.. You had no choice but to knuckle up .. These days.. I am very successful living in Fl with a nice 6 figure salary.. THANKS DAD.. and oh yeah.. I'm a 3rd degree black belt and cerft teacher. On the weekends I teach inner city kids how to fight.. FOR FREE.... Again.. My negative point on this is on the adults. If they were serious about these kids hurting each other. SHAME ON THEM.

                Reply#23 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

                Jesus Christ. You sound like a man with a fabulous upbringing. NOT. I feel sorry for your kids. I am betting that the reason your children fight is because you probably hit them. When my siblings and I faught, we seemed to emulate my father. So I am guessing that's what your children are doing. I didn't fight outside my family and I have respect and self-respect. But that's because I was raised in a nice town with educated adults.

                • 1 vote
                #23.1 - Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:03 AM EDT

                ease leeave the good lord out of ur comments

                  #23.2 - Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:49 PM EDT
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                  Just because you know how to stick your p**** into a hole does'nt mean you know how to be a parent, and if this low life is'nt a prime example I dont know what is.....the children should be taken from these adolescents and both parents should be sterilized....period...end of story... i hope you enjoyed being a parent because that right has been taken away from your sorry a**! Then throw them in prison so they can experience first hand what it's like to be abused!! make that into a reality TV show and maybe some of this crap will stop.

                    Reply#24 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

                    and we wonder why people video someone being assaulted and others just stand around and watch!

                      Reply#25 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:44 PM EDT
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