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Subscribe to RSSThree teen Boy Scouts and their scoutmaster are dead after their SUV smashed head-on into a motorhome Saturday in northwest Wyoming, NBC News has learned. A child traveling in the motorhome also died, a county sheriff told a Montana newspaper.
The 10:15 a.m. (12:15 p.m. ET) accident occurred on a remote stretch of Route 120, about 33 miles northwest of Thermopolis, Capt. Len Declercq of the Wyoming Highway Patrol told NBC News.
The scouts’ southbound 2003 Honda Element drifted into the northbound lane and struck the motorhome, he said.
The three scouts and a motorhome occupant died on impact, Declercq said.
The scoutmaster was taken to West Park Hospital in Cody, Wyo., but died later.
There were conflicting reports about the number of people in the motorhome.
Hot Springs County Sheriff Lou Falgoust said the fatality in the motorhome was a child 3 or 4 years old, the Billings Gazette reported.
Two motorhome survivors were in critical condition at Hot Springs Memorial Hospital in Thermopolis, Declercq said. A third motorhome survivor, who was airlifted St. Vincent's Hospital in Billings, Mont., also was in critical condition, he said.
Falgoust told the Gazette that the Honda was traveling with at least two other vehicles.
The scouts and the adult with them were from the Woodland Park, Colo., area, Declerq said.
They were returning from a Boy Scout camp in Cody, NBC station KULR of Billings reported.
The motorhome was from Florida, KULR said.
No victims’ names were released pending notification of relatives.
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Very sad loss of lives.
RIP
That is so awful! So sorry for those kids' families!
i knew the occupants of the car that crashed, at least, the scouts, one of them is the brother of one of my best friends. I honestly didn't believe it when i was told all 3 died. I hope that they find peace in whatever paradise they believed in.
Give the family my sympathies breaker. No one should ever have to feel the loss of a loved one. I hope their souls can have the same happyness in the next life as they did in this.
Everyone in the caravan must be considered survivors of this grievous accident. They will need help as surely as those who were injured needed help. I hope their trauma is treated as if it, too, were an emergency. If it isn't, the trauma will almost certainly manifest in untold ways. My heart is broken for all those affected; the Boy Scouts flag will fly at half-mast for a very long time in the hearts of many.
It may only be my imagination but accidents in volving multiple childrens deaths always seam to happeen just before family holidays. This being the 4th, Thanksgiving, and the saddest one to hear of Christmes. My prayers and heart feeling go to these families.
6dogs, It's not your imagination! More travelers, more chance of accidents. Fatigue, poor weather, distractions...Everyone be careful out there this holiday weekend and the coming week as well.
My deepest sympathies to the families and the other Scouts who witnessed this tragedy!! Every time we send our loved ones off, there is that chance we may never see them again. Please remember that.
The White Judge........."No one should ever have to feel the loss of a loved one".
So what SHOULD we do? Ignore death and pretend it doesn't happen? Or, just all live forever? Death is just as much a part of living, as living itself. What a dumb statement!
Midnightridr, you have to be the most insensitive person on the planet, as well as the most ignorant!~
What The White Judge was saying is not one person should ever experience the pain of losing a loved one because it is so devastating! YOU heartless MORON!~!!
get lost midnightridr - one ass in every crowd
James, James, Justme! Come come now! I am just being realistic here. The only alternative to never experiencing the loss of anyone dear to us would most certainly have to fall under either one or the other of the two scenarios I previously described which would place us in a dream world that just does not exist. That my friend is one of the greatest reasons why we Americans are in the shape we are in at present. Too many of us would rather ignore reality and pretend that all the things that are happening which are destroying us as a people and a nation are not real and isn't happening. It's called denial. By doing that we have unleashed upon ourselves an absolute misery to come that the largest majority of people have not the capacity to fathom. When the harsh reality of the folly of our ways does finally slam into us head on like getting hit head on in the face by a truck, it will be far far too late. And that is just about to happen!
Death is inescapable for everyone who lives, but is it really necessary to be so insensitive and tactless in the time of tragedy? Knowing that everybody dies is hardly any comfort when you are grieving the loss of your own child, or husband, or best friend, etc., when they are suddenly taken from you. It's not ignoring reality, it's not denial, it's not dumb, to be able to feel for others and understand the very real pain they are going through.
Another needless head-on crash tragedy that might have been prevented if the US-DOT had mandated that lane-departure warning devices and automatic braking systems had been installed on new cars back when they became available almost 40 years ago. This incident is the 4th or 5th head-on crash involving Denver or Colorado Springs residents and fatalities that has received press coverage in the last 2 weeks. Also another gory illustration of the fallibility of humans and cars (just like humans and guns), as all that it takes is a couple of seconds of distraction, carelessness, or failing to observe safety rules for somebody to get killed.
Yes. lane-departure warning devices and automatic braking systems would not solve all head-on crash accidents, but very likely they would cut way down on those numbers. Yes, they would cost several hundred bucks each to install on new cars, and while I am sure that some people would choose not to have them if they were required, I also know that there are plenty of people who have been forced to suffer needlessly because of fear on the part of auto company executives that the cost of such safety devices would impact negatively on new vehicle sales too.
Another method of reducing sheer numbers of head-on crashes on 2-lane roads which has seen some success is redesigning 2-lane roads with wide paved shoulders to allow for emergency maneuvering, and another redesign that has been successful in reducing the frequency of 2-lane head-on crashes has been installing a wider center line too. An example of a 4-foot center line can be found between east suburban Cleveland and west of Warren, OH on a 2-lane stretch of US 422 there.
Until such a time that our society feels that taking mass preventative steps toward highway and vehicle safety is in everyone's best interests, I am afraid that us humans will be forced into trying very hard to operate our vehicles safely. If you are tired, do not drive, period. Maybe you can temporarily put-off sleep with coffee or an energy soda, but caffeine (and even ginseng) have a tendency to wear-off with little warning.
In my 30+ year career as a semi-driver I was a big believer in the "3-yawn" rule, which means that if you yawn 3 times that it is time to find a place to park, which might be the only warning that you will have that an energy soda is wearing off. Another thing to remember is that no scenery, wildlife or historical distraction is worth taking your eyes off of the road at 60 mph for even a couple of seconds, nor is digging for a CD or a soda in the cooler in the back seat worth losing several lives over either, just as no load of meat or vegetables is worth losing your own life and who knows how many other lives over too! It might help to put your window down in order to find a safe place to park, and if your car has an exhaust leak the extra air flow will wake you back up fairly quickly too.
Just remember that driving, like flying or the use of guns, can be terribly unforgiving when we do not follow the rules, and we will all be a lot better-off. Certainly the families and friends of the victims have my condolences, and perhaps someday enough of us will insist that people's lives are worth more than the cost of safety devices and safer roads that could largely prevent these types of tragedies are.
What in the world are you talking about ? I understand your trying to make a point here, but its too vague in the context you stated here for me to understand the meaning of it all.
Also I think your reading too much into what was said about never having to feel the loss of a loved one. We all know we have to go through that, but it is a harsh reality of death. It is true nobody should have to experience loss, but in this case , it came way too soon. I would say , no parent should have to witness the funeral of their kids. We would like for them to out live us .
Midnightridr Why don't you just take a gun and shoot yourself in the head and we will act like it never happened. We won't care and we won't feel sad
Would Magical Underpants have made a difference?
Midnightridr
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As a wife that has lost a husband and a mother that has lost a son please don't comment about things you know nothing about and bring politics into something that has nothing to do with Washington. Living daily without a loved one is hard even when we all know that is a part of life. I'm sorry you will have to face it one day but maybe you will then understand.
Charger your comments were also uncalled for. To wish death on anyone is horrible. Grow up.
My thoughts and prayers to family and friends. Hold on to the good memories.
+ + + +
Gmainco sorry for your losses.
Midnight I think you're the only person here who hasn't had a loved one die if you're this stupid. How you got any thumbs up with your brainless comments is beyond me. And as much as I'd love to insult chargers logic he's right.
This is really sad and I hate to see any accident like this. Thoughts and prayers with family.
These tragic events gives one pause on how we are here in this minute and can be gone the next and to take advantage of the time we have together with gratitude . God be with the families and those lost. RIP.
Well said, Coral Taxi.
god comfort the families
The same god who was either unable or unwilling to prevent the tragedy? You're asking this clown to comfort his own victims? What, was he taking a smoke break right when the accident was unfolding? He seems at best unworthy of worship and at worst a rather indifferent god.
At least 1 in every thread - Those that presume to know more or understand more than others... Just a sad attempt at attention and an equally sad attempt at self validation.
Maturity would have given you the enlightenment to know that this was not the thread to try and and advance your own self-serving agenda.
Shame on you! (though you don't really care)
If there is a God, then life after death would be better than here. If there isn't, then nothing matters anyway. So your statement is nothing more than one from an ignorant piss ant.
@ Brian; Would you like a God to control your life and every move so you do not die ? Most would like to be left to create their own fate no matter what the outcome before having their every move dictated to keep them safe.Woud'nt you agree?
No hang gliding,mountain climbing,etc. In this case enjoying the outdoors as scouts and campers. God gave you life freely what happens during is your choice not his. I am glad for that.
Brian, how insensitive can one be? Good luck in whatever life's path you choose... cause an outpouring of sympathy and understanding appears to be outside your grasp.
Nice, guys. Real nice.
Now go back inside.
Coral Taxi, are you referring to a God much like the leaders of the United States who think we can't think for oursleves so they must?
Blessings and good thoughts go out to all the families of this tradgedy
brian has a different point of view...and we all give god the blues...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVbPVfhzE0Y
Doesn't he do this already? What to do, what not to do, what to eat, what not to eat. I would love to be left to my own fate, but apparently God tells you guys to intervene instead. I'm going to Heaven if I do this, going to H*ll if I do that. (or don't do something). I'm fine with you doing your thing, and me doing mine. But please, don't tell me God has a plan, or that he wanted these kids to "come home early to him". I guess he felt they should suffer agonizing crushing damage before dying in a gasoline fire first, as those kids last week did....
DEIPHOBES identified Alert!!!
# butterfly; No I am talking about a God whom gave us free will When and if he decides to put his hand on something so be it, then you will have divine intervention.
No God would be satisfied with preprogrammed robots. God is satisfied with unconditional,sincere,love from his believers, something that could not exist if it was controlled or coerced. By the grace of God go I.
You are allowed to appreciate life without knowing all the answers as to why these tragic events happen as they do.
Ignore Brian. He likes to be the center of attention and condicending. What a twit.
Brian is a jerk, and I would smack him down if he were in front of me.; just because.
Brian would perhaps run into a church to disturb a funeral service, telling everybody that the corpse will just rot and not "rest in peace".
He's no better than Westboro Baptist Church.
Unfortunately there are always going to be people who demand attention, like spoiled children. Everybody can choose to do whatever they want to do. However, nothing is being served when people offer words they believe to be sincere, only to have somebody else attempt to use the words of sympothy to attack another person's religious beliefs. There was atime when I felt as the two non-believers do. I spent an hour discussing with a preacher I knew taking the part of the atheist, but I was Agnostic. Just as he was leaving, another guy showed up who was a devout atheist. We had a long conversation with me taking the believers part. One day I asked for something that I knew would never happen. The next day it did happen. That satisfied me, although I don' follow the exact path of some other believers. If you're one of those people who just have to talk about your disbelief, I will listen, and simply tell you what I believe. I request nothing, except that when there are tragedies like this, you save it for another time. Thank you.
Allah Akbar! Mohammed Jihad!
Pots, meet kettle.
Always sad to see "good Christians" not following the Bible.
Specifically, Luke 6:37: "Judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven"
and John 8:7: "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her"
also James 4:12: "There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?"
Get off your high horses; you don't belong up there and you should know better.
One SH_T Head always has to crawl our from under a rock, if you don't believe in religion that's up to you but you don't have to show others what an AZZ you are, I'm not religious but I do respect those that are, show a little class. Always enjoy life with family & friends, Live life don't waste it. RIP
There is so much responsibilty on the scoutmaster here mabey the scouts were up late and I have been to these scout functions and everybody is up late talking half the night away either around the camp site or in there tents, the scout master had to watch over them . Putting himself in danger of fatigue, so his auto drifted into on comming traffic. God bless them.
@Randy~I'm with you on this. I have many beautiful memories as a Girl Scout Mommy Helper with my daughter, and there really is no such thing as "sleep" when you are chaperoning camping trips. I am praying that our loving God gives strength to the families and friends of all involved.
I wonder if Chuck Norris and his homophobic God caused these deaths.
I dont think even God can make a big motor home swerve to miss an oncoming car.
I don't care if you diss god but what did Chuck Norris ever do to you?
hey boom! reason - my God forgives me of my sins - so if I have ill-willed thoughts about people like Brian, if I actually say something bad about Brian - guess what? Get off yours! "Get off your high horses; you don't belong up there and you should know better."
BRIAN IS RIGHT !!!!!
Brian I feel for you all you did is state the obvious and every one that has been programed by religion is giving you crap for it .....forgive them for they no not how to (think for themselves)
Hey let's stick to the fact that four children lost their lives,this is a very sad thing,try to keep God and politics out of this thread if you can! To those families who lost family members I send my condolences.
You all know how to end these types of mishaps. Support Google's autonomous car. When you get tired behind the wheel , just switch over to car guidance. My bet is the driver dozed off. Or better yet just start out with it and leaving the driving to the car. Should be here in less then 10 years. When fully implemented and 90% of all cars have this, this kind of mishap will be the thing of the past.
As a scout family and mother of a 2012 eagle scout I can only imagine what these families, their community and the world has lost in the differences they were set to make in the world. My hope is you can grieve, remember and love again even stronger because of the young men they longed to be, and would of been. May God bless you and hold you in his arms in this difficult time. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Forgive Wade 3708300 for he KNOWS not how to spell.
@SuperDan
that was awesome......up i can't and spell check don't help
Make bad movies then end up dating a chuck norris fan who forces you to watch all his movies. Oh Chuck norris himself? Nothing but be a bad actor then.
Looks like the driver of the scouts SUV fell asleep or got distracted. One second and you are dead...taking a whole bunch of people with you. Life can literally suck. Accident ? a drunken scout master ? we soon will find out. Terribly tragic either way. I am guessing he was wiped out and fell asleep. So sad.
Alumette -
Or maybe a stroke or heart attack? Chill.
My gosh, what the hell is wrong with you alumette? You're questioning if this was actually an accident? Of course it was. What caused it is not at issue here, yet here you are, making suggestive assumptions. Stop guessing. Let it go. Just be sorry that it happened and mourn the loss of three young lives and several grownups who needed more time on earth.
Alumette, thought the same as you. There are too many accidents caused by drifting over into the other lane. Everyday you read of them. You do the best you can do to drive with responsibility, and whoops! somebody comes at you head on. Never leave home without a prayer.
awwww......! That's excellent advice, Carolee!! :)
Thank you Maureen! Exactly right. I would just like to add 4 children were lost all together, one adult and one critically injured adult who almost did not survive. Just want to be sure everyone is remembered.
Guess they didn't see that one coming
Wow, what a totally insensitive comment! You're just OVERFLOWING with compassion there, Pedro. Feel better now????????? Thanks SO very much for sharing!
Very tragic; especially when you consider that the families of the scouts killed apparently live in Woodland Park, CO - a community that has been totally evacuated due to the Waldo Fire. Alumetter - don't jump to conclusions, It could have been a scout master so consumed with stress at the possibility of seeing his community burn to the ground that he tragically lost concentration for a moment. My point is that accidents happen, and it does not good to grieving family members that might turn on to this blog. Give it a rest!
From a former Scout Leader, who has (and continues to) traveled that road many times, some information. A lot of speculation will take place regarding the exact cause/what happened, but we will never know for certain unless a person in the motor home was watching the driver of the SUV at the time of the collision.
To get where they were located, they left CBB at around 0830, very shortly after breakfast. They had to go through check-out, and to leave at that time had to be up around 0600 in order to clean and pack. As someone else said, they were up late the night before with awards ceremonies, recognitions, and a late campfire. They had been on the road about 2 hours when the collision occured, in a very winding part of the road with lots of steep sections. I nearly always stop at the Rest Area they had just passed to walk around (after I have been at the Camp).
The Camp is located such that most communications, save 2 phone lines, are impossible. You have to leave camp and travel about 20-30 miles to get a good, clear cell signal regardless of your carrier. And the camp is located on the river, with very steep terrain all around. In 2007 the Columbine fire was stopped less than 2 miles from the camp - I know because I was there and helped to evacuate all of it. The entire Troop was probably worried about their homes and family, however at least at Camp, they could have some fun, make some friends, and put their minds on something other than the fires at home. And they yesterday they had to return to the "real world/outside world" again, and all the cares they had been able to put out of their minds for a little while.
The entire Boy Scouting world mourns for these young men and their families. We pray that their families and friends will achieve some sort of comfort as they move forward.
RIP to all the victims of this accident. Thoughts and prayers to the families.
This is so horribly sad....My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this tragedy. I don't think the story is very well layed out. I'm wondering if the scout master fell asleep or what happened. I think there should be a clarity in what happened here, hopefully there will be at a later time.
Isaca - you really don't need any additional clarity other than 4 people tragically died in a car accident on a lonely road in Wyoming. Anything more is just morbid curiosity, which we sadly all have. I am sure the families will appreciate your prayers, but nothing will change the fact that people died, and the last thing I want to see is the media smelling blood and "investigating" this until we're all sick of hearing about it.
JP- you are absolutely right love....it was just curiosity to such a tragic ending. I ask forgiveness of the friends, family and those affected for such a thought....I know that nothing will bring back those lost and I'm so sorry for their pain. Sending all my positive love, thoughts and prayers.
JP, you couldn't be more wrong. It isn't "just" morbid curiosity... By explaining what caused the accident others might learn and prevent similar tragedies. Now, they may not know yet exactly what happened yet, but when they do I hope they release the information so people can learn.
If you prefer to duck your head in the sand, have fun being an ostrich.
Actually, we do need more clarity. What were the scouts thinking three seconds before impact? What were they thinking immediately after impact?
Inquiring minds must know!
Isaca~ that was a very caring & classy response. Your initial comment did not come across to me as morbid curiosity; You genuinely seemed concerned and that was really sweet! :) We need more positive responses like yours!!!
Isaca, as the step daughter of Richard Kleiner (driver of the Element) I don't think your curiosity is a bad thing. I am glad that you are not making assumption though about how you think it may have happened. It was very quick and there is no obvious evidence as to why. At this point they would have to rely on eye witness accounts and those accounts have only come from outside of the vehicle, which is of minimal help at this point. I am sure everyone involved would love an answer or reason, but nothing has been released at this time. I believe this accident is still under investigation. The answers are not clear.
I guess they weren't prepared.
Y`know comments like that make you look well, pathetic...
Descend in flames, Optimist.
Although this is terribly sad news, Optimist's comment brought a smile to my face. Shame on us.
Hey, if I didn't make that comment, somebody would have. In fact, I'd be surprised if they haven't already, given the shorter and shorter mourning periods for such events these days.
Boy Scouts - Christian faith. Of course they were prepared.
Oh, that's a GOOD one, Optimist! Someone was going to be a jerk here, so I thought I would just step right on up and volunteer! It's called a BRAIN. It works pretty well. All you have to do is use it.
Wowww....could you have come up with a more thoughtless and crass comment, "Optimist"?? Really? Did you think this tragedy of 4 kids dying horribly in a traffic accident was the appropriate time to attempt to be comical?? Reeaally???
PAthetic!!!!
@UT Mom-2669863,
I sincerely hope that you are logging into your mother's account, since it looks like a tween wrote your comment.
Boom. You and optimist have made it clear you're trolls. So either go away to troll some kid on a chat site or use your brain and shut the f*ck up.
ALUMETTE, Have you ever worked a Boy Scout Camp or a wildreness camp for a week? Have You? Until you do check your facts and then comment, better yet keep your thoughts to your self. As a mother of two Eagle Scouts and Order of the Arrow young men now, I worried every time they left on a trip, prayers for their safety for them and to the leaders who were taking them. I'm thankful that they all came home all of their scouting days. Their father and they were always together in their Scouting days and its something none of us will ever forget. To the families let it be known our prayers are with you and we ask God mercy on all of you.
I've driven that road many times. It's really narrow along that stretch. Two big vehicles, neither familiar with the road, and irresponsible websites reporting that it's hard to get a speeding ticket in Wyoming due to the sheer amount of space...these are accidents waiting to happen.
This is so sad and hits home...since we just got back a week ago from BSA Camp, this is hard to swallow...prayers and thoughts go out to all the families involved and our Scouting families who have lost so much....
DAMN
I was a firefighter for 21 years and hated "call-outs" for "TCs" as you NEVER knew what to expect when arriving on scene. Please say prayers for the first responders as well as the victims.
I agree with that all the way.....first responders get to a scene never knowing ahead what they will find...it does take a toll on them. We should always pray for them and about them, keeping them strong enough to be able to deal with all they do.....I thank God for them always!!
To JP and Isaca...well done...comments were not meant to hurt, and when pointed out NICELY, the response was an apology and positive and caring comments to the persons in pain with such a horrible loss....JP also pointed out that the Scouts and leader were from one of the areas devastated by the fires, and I am certain that it affected them as they were on the way home, not knowing what was waiting for them!! My 2 sons were also in scouts, went to scout camps and thanks be to God, came home with great experiences to share.....BTW...God IS the author of all good...the evil and hurtful things come from Satan himself, and his 'job' is to mess with all mankind and help some people come to doubt that God even exists...sorry to read so many comments from those who deny the Lord...He DOES help us, but sometimes, though we can't understand why, some people are taken from this world before those who love them are ready...not sure if we are EVER ready to lose anyone we love in a situation like this...young people that have not had the years we think they should have had...but I do believe that the Lord will be waiting when I leave this world...I am happy that meeting Him face to face will be much better than if I denied that He existed!!! My prayers to God and thoughts for those left with the hurt and loss go out, but I hope they know that GOD IS WITH THEM, and was with those in this horrible accident! You don't HAVE to know that God is real to understand the loss of loved ones should be handled with great compassion, NOT criticism...GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
@LuvHeat~ Awesome and necessary reminder! Whenever we hear a siren of any kind, my little family and I stop whatever we're doing, hiking, biking, working, shopping, etc...and pray for all of the responders and people involved in the emergency. Can't have too many angels surrounding you when you are surrounded by flames! Thank you for all you do!!!!!! :)
This is sad. My condolences to the ones left behind; the ones who have to miss them everyday.
A SCOUTER'S PRAYER
"Build me a Scout, O Lord, who will be strong enough to know
when he is weak and brave enough to face himself when he is afraid; one who will
be proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory...
Build me a Scout whose wishes will not take the place of deeds;
a Scout who himself is the foundation stone of knowledge...
Lead him, I pray, not in the path of ease and comfort, but
under the stress and spur of difficulties and challenge. Here let him learn to
stand up in the storm; here let him learn compassion for those who fail...
Build me a Scout whose heart will be clear, whose goals will be
high. A Scout who will master himself before he seeks to master others, one who
will march into the future, yet never forget the past...
And after all these things are his, add, I pray, enough of a
sense of humor so that he may always be serious, yet never take himself too
seriously. Give him humility, so that he may always remember the simplicity of
true wisdom, and the meekness of true strength...
Then I, a Scouter who knew him, will dare to whisper, `I have
not lived in vain.'"
@ optimist; Not funny.
You probably are not prepared to die either,now are you.
Rest in peace, God is nigh.
May God's peace and healing be poured out upon the families and friends of those lost in this very tragic accident.
Which god? The bearded guy who throws lightning bolts, the elephant with all the arms, or the god of the sea? Lots of gods to choose from. And why are you invoking the supposed benevolence and comfort of a deity who was too powerless, or perhaps too indifferent, to prevent the tragedy in the first place? It was either his callous plan or his ineptitude that allowed it to happen.
My earlier post to your first comment is now proven!
What's your problem, brian? Couldn't get a date for saturday night again?
Understandable.
We get it, genius. You don't believe in God. And we don't care.
Believe in Karma, Brian? If so, you should fear.
You are really un-neccessary. Maybe you feel that and need to be objectionable to feel important. Hush yo mouth!
Brian, being an a$$ again.
Brian I read your comment and imagine hitting the staples button and watching about forty dull spoons pierce your body and it saying "That was fun." I may not believe in god but at least I don't insult people who do. Sorry if my joke was dark.
God help everyone touched by this tragedy, this is so heartbreaking.
What's with the silly comments, even DAMN, is better than I guess they didn't see that one coming and I guess they weren't prepared. Not a time and place for flippant remarks.
RIP
I think talking about a "god" is the silliest of all. Tragic? Yes. Will a supernatural deity comfort the victims that he is allowing to suffer? I doubt it. Unless it's a placebo effect kind of thing...
No one cares what people like you think...or what you doubt for that matter.
Go crawl back under that rock and learn the concept of coexistance.
Brian, as a matter of fact belief in God can be very comforting and I saw this in my parents and in-laws final hours. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and will respect your "beliefs" but respect everyone elses as well.
Apparently Brian enjoys making himself the center of the universe. Wow, conceted.
Don't let Brian ruin your day folks. We all know there will come a day when he leaves this earth and will have to stand before something he doesn't believe in and try to explain himself. I imagine he will be doing alot of back peddling!
As the parent of an Eagle Scout, my heart goes out to all the Scout families affected by this tragedy. My prayers are also with the victims' from the other vehicle. May they all RIP.
My son just got home to Illinois from a trip to South Dakota. It was so hard to let him go! But if you shelter your children from opportunites such as these, life isn't worth living! So sad to see these families were not as fortunate as mine. You are in our thoughts and prayers, families of the scouts and the motorhome as well.. and catma, I totally put a second on your remarks about the silly comments (I say cruel, not silly). There's a time/place, and this isn't it, folks. There isn't an appropriate time/place ever for comments like that about such an event.
day is done,gone the son ,from the lakes, from the hills, from the trees, all is well safely rest---god is neigh. (sung to TAPs) rest my fellow scouts. May the great scoutmaste rbe with us till we meet again.
The G in God is always capitalized.
Actually, you're wrong. If you're referring to God as a proper noun you capitalize it. If you are referring to the general concept of a god you don't.
Actually, you are wrong. You capitalize the g when you use god as a proper noun, but not when you refer to the general concept of god, which is a common noun.
Actually, you are wrong. You capitalize the g when you use god as a proper noun, but not when you refer to the general concept of god, which is a common noun.
I apologize for the multiple posts. MSNBC's site has been glitchy today and it wouldn't let me post. I kept trying and it still wouldn't let me post. It finally posted all three.
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The title of this article is misleading; it doesn't mention those killed and injured in the motor home or that the SUV caused the accident!
My condolences to the friends and family of the deceased and I hope the injured in the motor home survive this ordeal.
Sorry for the loss to the families of all. Such young boys with a life ahead of them and headed in the right direction with Boy Scouts and attentive families. God's mercy be with them all.