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Subscribe to RSSA Florida teenager who was shot in the head during a game of Russian Roulette has died.
Thorin R. Montgomery, 17, was pronounced deceased early Sunday at Bayfront Medical Center in St. Petersburg, the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office said.
According to detectives, Montgomery and three of his friends were involved in an apparent game of Russian Roulette at Montgomery’s home on Friday night. Montgomery was the first to have a turn at the game when the .38-caliber revolver discharged and a bullet struck him in the head, the sheriff’s office said.
Montgomery was transported by air to Bayfront Medical Center in critical condition.
An autopsy is pending.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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The Gene Pool is Working...
Might want to add a little chlorine too. Always wondered how you win at that game.
We need a new law in this nation ... it's unlawful to be an idiot AND not have federal government approved "idiot insurance". Justice Robert's, are you listening?
Do they give the Darwin Award posthumously?
The gene pool needs to get rid of you dannyboy. A 17 year old is dead and that's all you can say. You sir are about as stupid as they come.
@justme:
No, this kid who knowingly played Russian Roulette is stupid!! You reap what you sow, if you are going to act stupid, then you deserve the outcome of that stupidity!
So, exactly who or what would you blame on this act? Society? Mental problems? Because no ordinary non-stupid sane person would do this.
justme
No spider-737231 is not stupid.
The ones who are stupid are the ones who want to do an autopsy on the damn fool !!!!!
Don't they know a bullet hole in the head kills !!!!! What are they going to say ??? He died from a snake bite on the pecker ????
@bob1/28
They need to do the autopsy to see if there were any substances in his system (other than the bullet) at the time that it happened.
redwingnut06
You mean they are going to look for a defective Gene ?????
I can agree with drugs or alcohol may very well may have been involved . But wouldn't that come out when the police interview his fellow players ????
@bob1/28
No, they are not going to look for a defective gene..and if you think I was implying that, you are about as dumb as this kid. You already answered you own question by saying "I can agree with drugs or alcohol..." ANd do you think the fellow players are going to tell the truth?
Spider- yes- you have to die in order to win a Darwin Award.
sad for this kids family that he was so short-sighted (I'm trying to be nice...)
If not, this would be a good first!
As Red would say from That 70's Show.....Dumbass!
Kinda makes no sense spending tax dollars on an autopsy. Cause of death is clear and simple in this case. Lead poisoning of the brain!
redwingnut06 Blood, Urine and a small tissue or hair sample is all they need for toxicology tests these days. I work in a forensic lab.
Spider they only give Darwin awards for death doing something stupid or making yourself infertile by doing something stupid. Most win by dying. Unfortunately though, since those books came out you see "Darwin Award" posted several times on articles like this, most slack-jawed yokels believe they're being clever. Gain some originality.
HOLY SH!T...I got through the first batch of posts and NOBODY blamed the gun.....we are making progress people.
ERIC: agreed!
When you play Russian R, you need to remove the bullets from ALL of the chambers, save one; you don't start the game with a full cylinder or its game over, obviously. Doesn't say if they set it up correctly or not... if they did, then Lady Luck must be having a good laugh with the Grim Reaper.
And to think that my dad used to complain about my playing video games with my mates: if he knew what we did when we were pissed he'd have had a heart attack!
Cause of death: Incredible stupidity.
I really have to wonder why this is being covered in a national news venue. Seriously, a 17 year old dies participating in one of the most absolutely stupid activities in the history of humankind. I could see this being covered by the local news in the area that it happened in, but I can think of no reason this story is of any importance on a national scale. Asinine coverage of non-stories is one the most annoying aspects of modern news media.
You know what my first thought was 8) What a dumb ass I mean wtf are you thinking..
Sad day for his folks
Actually you don't have to die to be the recipient of a Darwin Award,but you do have to have somehow made yourself permanently unable to reproduce while doing something especially stupid and kind of unique.
This is a sad case, really,but if the kid was determined to play Russian roulette sometimes there are worse things than dying.Not long ago a kid in Kansas City did exactly the same thing only he lingered on, in a coma for months.The kid in KC was gooned on cocaine when he shot himself in the side of the head.No idea what posessed the kid in Florida to do what he did.
I wonder what was going through his mind.. oh yeah! A bullet!!!
Eric-1017922 Why blame the gun? It did nothing wrong, has no brain, is an inanimate object controlled by idiots in this case!
These kids today are our future? What future then?
Figure its FLORIDA again.
At least it's not out here in AZ. I think we have been trying to keep up with Florida for the last couple of years. We really need to stop that.
The headline defines how American youth feel that all they have to aim for in their future - is themelves. And that's tragic.
Another success story out of Florida
It's a shame that this young man died of led poisoning.
I like to think the last thing that went through his head...
other than that bullet..
was to wonder how in the hell andy dufresne ever got the best of him.
Wow, I've read through almost 30 posts thus far, and not a single one of you has any f--king compassion for the absolute tragedy his family must be going through right now.
Obviously, the poor kid made some seriously bad choices. But ALL teenagers do stupid things. This one is certainly beyond the pale, here.
But while you arrogant self-righteous pigs are busy high-fiving each other over your blistering posts, remember this was a real person, a real teenager who presumably has family and loved ones to consider.
Maybe you should all think of them before you post idiotic remarks about "Darwinism"...
The autopsy was is to see if there was a brain in his head.
Indy Patriot..your attack on others comments/opinions (good or bad) is against the COH for newsvine.
Ignorance kills people. Something is wrong in this country, so many stupid people doing stupid things.
The kids thought it's unpossible! Guns don't kill people!
@Spider-737231, The Darwin Award is almost ALWAYS given posthumously.
I hope they tested the other participants' hands for powder residue. I'm immediately suspicious when someone dies from playing Russian Roulette. Not saying it's impossible, but very suspicious.
Secondly, you can simply look at the revolver to see if you're going to shoot yourself.
Thirdly, even if they only went one round, there was a 52% chance of someone getting killed. Don't they teach math in high school anymore? 1-(5/6)^4
Indy Patriot:: I disagree with your statement that all teenagers do stupid things. I am way past my teenage years and I'm still getting around on my own two feet-- slower than I did even five years ago, but I'm still getting around.
When I was a teenager, we lived on a ranch. My dad had a rifle. I was NOT interested in even target shooting. In fact, he wanted to make a rabbit hunter out of me-- that was nothing that I cared to do. I remember baby rabbits and their pretty brown eyes.
One of these days I will have to give up my job-- but it will probably be because I won't be able to drive to work. I'm nearly 80 years old and I am a volunteer-- a job I don't get paid cash for. But the satisfaction is much more important.
But teenagers do stupid things? Maybe these days-- and maybe you do. But not all teenagers do.
@STexan, I agree, we should regulate who owns guns. that is what you are saying after all.
Just Gods way of keeping the gene pool solid.....a sort of built in self adjusting control you might say...
He asked for it. He got it.
Mike, you can partially thank the gov't for constantly year after year making education cuts. The gov't prefers stupid followers, easier to control. And yes, one day some of these kids will be controlling our gov't.
There is a huge difference between a person who dies and a person who willingly does something unimaginably stupid that causes their death. I have sympathy for the family no doubt...but will I hold back comments for this teen? Sorry...he'd still be alive if he didn't have a gun pointed at his head while he pulled the trigger.
Were they playing it with a semi auto and not a revolver? First shot? Did the other friend then unload the rest of the rounds? lol. If you want to kill somone just shoot them in the head and claim playing a "game". Is this game against the law? Anybody being brought up on charges that were also playing this game with this obvious mentally deficient 17 year old? Is the gun owner being brought up on charges for an underage teen having access to it resulting in suicide? Maybe if people were taught gun safety by the hollywood idiots instead of them glorifying gun violence constantly this type of stuff would not happen. It is an agenda by the left same as major news organizations like MSNBC only reporting on the daily gun violence and 1/100000000000 the time when they are used to defend a family from a murderer. Mr. Rogers was right when he testified to congress, "I saw it on TV".
@Susie I don't think Indy meant that the "stupid things" that kids do are all on the equivalent of shooting yourself doing a game of Russian Roulette. I think what Indy Patriot meant was that kids do things without thinking of the unintended consequences; which is true beyond a shadow of a doubt. 1) their brains are not fully developed at that age and won't be until around age 25 (scientific fact) and 2) they don't have the benefit of hindsight/experience that we as adults do.
I've read more than a couple stories lately where kids have been killed drag racing. That's nothing new. It's been happening for decades. I've also read stories where kids went out late at night climbed into/atop old abandoned buildings and fell through a rotted floor to their death. Again, nothing new. It happened when I was a kid and I've heard stories of how it happened when my grandparents were teens. Kids live for the moment with no thoughts about the "what ifs" and hence they do "stupid things" that sometimes have fatal consequences.
my comment...all i can say is ...where is man kind...i forgot...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZrfk7c1Iw&feature=related
click, bang, game over...there will be no extra play at this level.
Probably using a automatic
Oh, please say they were NOT using an automatic ... Why would I not be surprised if they were? The orchestrated and planned systematic dumbing down of America is coming together quite nicely, regardless.
"Systematic dumbing down" has apparently gotten so bad that we can't be expected to read the article, which clearly states that ". . . the .38-caliber revolver discharged . . . ." -.- If you want to claim there's a secret conspiracy to make us all stupid, fine, but at least keep some sense of what is reported.
I find great dismay in the thought that you both seem to be trying to prove the point.
@STexan,...so you're saying that somehow this was all some sort of plan to "Dumb down America"? There are enough dumbasses in the world right now so we don't need a class for it.
wow, John- not one person got that joke. They actually thought you were serious, and corrected you.
Listen up people- it's pretty damn impossible to play russian roulette with an automatic.
Florida idiot in the news- again.
Ah. The South.
Another person gets hold of a handgun, who had no business getting hold of a handgun...
There you have it!
It may not have been an automatic, but how much do you want to bet they loaded all the chambers?
The conservative media fulfills it's agenda and their shills are proud of it!
@doyourhomework,America! ~ You beat me to it, thank you so very much for pointing that out. :-)
@STexan:
Systematic dumbing of America lives on in Texas GOP:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/10551/texas-republicans-2012-platform-opposes-critical-thinking-and-supports-corporal-punishment
Oh, you don't load all chambers?
Don,
Great quote from a brilliant movie. Sad that you haven't gotten a thumbs-up on it before.
My heart goes out to the family of this young man and to the friends who witness this tragedy. Please parents educate your children on the dangers of weapons and the proper safety of use.
It's not the guns that are dangerous, it's the idiots who use them inappropriately that are dangerous.
@Savvie
Parents that must teach their 17 year old that he should not put a loaded gun to his head should NOT BE parents. I am fairly certain that gun safety had NOTHING to do with it.
The comment made actually scares me.
Guns are dangerous. That doesn't make them inherently bad, but to claim that guns aren't dangerous is ludicrous. While common sense should say that pointing a potentially loaded gun at your head is something you shouldn't do, that doesn't mean that gun safety had nothing to do with this. Proper gun safety teaches that you never point a gun, even one that you are sure isn't loaded, at anyone (who you don't want to shoot), including yourself. While it may not prevent the biggest idiots, proper gun safety is something this young man should have definitely had more of, as should his three idiot friends. In fact, if proper gun safety had been practiced, this revolver would have been locked away where a minor could not get his hands on it, as required by most state laws and virtually all gun safety practices.
If by the age of 17 your child is not "educated" on the dangers of a loaded 38 revolver then you have one dumbass child!
@ David:
No, guns are not dangerous...No more dangerous than an automobile. You can kill someone with an automobile just as well as you can with a gun. In fact, you could kill more people with a loaded car than a gun with one bullet.
redwingnut-
Automobiles ARE dangerous. Guns are dangerous, just as power tools are dangerous- anything that can kill you fairly quickly if used improperly can rightly be considered dangerous.
Hey Do - you can't tell a gun nut anything. They are the types that piss on electrified fences and are surprised at the results. Guns don't kill, bullets that are put in them do the killing. And morons that support the drug dealers that buy most of the guns are the ones who deserve to be punished. If you ban guns, only morons will own guns (this is true even without banning guns).
Remember - support the NRA (the best lobby group that drug dealers have).
I'd just point out that neither power tools nor automobiles are designed to kill, guns are.
interested.....you are an azz. To right out say that the NRA lobbies for drug dealers is just a libturd thing to say. The NRA stands up for your 2nd ammendment rights. If you choose not to use that right, that is your business but don't talk trash on the NRA. If you ban guns only CRIMINALS will have guns. There are alot of criminals and I don't want to be unarmed in this country....in this economy.
Aw, Eric....you're still p-o'ed at your mom, after all these years. Just because she made you stop sucking your thumb!
Kids do DUMB things! Often it's for reasons that only make sense to them and they almost never think ahead to the consequences. Have you ever seen a teenage kid that didn't think he(or she) was immortal and could leap tall buildings in a single bound? Peer pressure is incredible at that age and they don't dare cave in and look like they're "chicken". When these kids are with their "buds", the last thing on their mind is anything Mom or Dad might have told them. Unfortunately, in this case there is no "do-over" and the rest of the kids who were involved are going to be royally screwed up for the rest of their lives. Just another short term action with a long term consequence. Are there any classes or any kind of education on how to play russian roulette? Has anybody seen Russian Roulette 101 offered as a class? With no formal training in the matter, it's very possible they did it wrong as in with an automatic or with all chambers in the cylinder loaded. After all, they're just "dumb kids" doing dumb things and no matter how it played out, it was a WRONG choice! And, kids make wrong choices all the time. It's what kids do! Unfortunately, most of the time that's how they learn. Parents, are you paying attention?
I feel bad for the family and friends who have lost a loved one, I'm sure there is guilt all around. I think a lot of the posters are missing the point about teaching gun safety: these kids probably knew all about it. What they probably didn't know is how to deal with boredom, a lack of self esteem, and a lack of belief that life is worth living. True, kids do dumb stuff; things like this accident happen all the time. But there is typically an underlying theme: these are all kids who are not afraid of death, some of them even seek it. They think life sucks and always will, they have no hope for the future. They don't care if they risk everything, because in their mind "everything" is not worth worrying about or preserving. It starts with the parents, but teens are influenced by extended family and especially peers. I made sure I talked with my kids all the time about how wonderful life is, how many options are available. And when we have tough times I talk to them about keeping their heads up, looking to the future and getting through the rough patches. And, I make sure they don't have dickheads for friends.
An automobile doesn't kill a man at a distance at the simple flick of a trigger. You can hear and see an automobile going at you. You can't kill multiple people with an automobile, unless they are standing together on a road.
A gun is a perfect killing machine. And it's perfected for this purpose.
If you have to teach a 17 year old kid not to point a loaded weapon at his head, yes, you should have never had children. Guns are no more dangerous than other aspects of our lives---like an automobile or even electricity---I've seen a lot of electrocutions in the last few weeks where kids went swimming or reached into the water to grab a golf ball..
And AlexG...you can take out an entire van or bus load of people with irrational choices behind the wheel. If your premise of saying that was to say that cars and guns are not comparable...that is rather interesting. When used properly, neither is dangerous. When not used properly, both are killing machines. Whether perfected for that purpose or not, each is equally capable in the wrong hands. I would say cars more so, unless you live in the projects where guns are often greater in number.
I think these coroners are a bunch of butchers. Let me see autopsy scheduled. I can see it now cause of death massive blood lose do to be F-N hole on side of head.
You do realize that autopsies aren't solely to determine the physical cause of death, right? They also seek to determine if the young man was drunk, or on drugs, or having some other condition that was affecting his judgement at the time of death. Also, despite the obvious gunshot wound, an autopsy makes sure that what the witnesses are reporting is what really happened. If, for instance, the autopsy shows that his time of death was different than the friends reported, or that he was unconscious at the time of death, then his death could be something other than the self inflicted accident that is reported by the friends. There's also the occasional case where the apparent cause of death is not the actual cause of death. People can be shot after death to cover up another cause of death. Yes, this death is most likely exactly as reported, in which case the autopsy will provide a few more details and confirmation of that story. If the family has no objection to an autopsy, what is the harm? Worst case scenario you learn a few more details and confirm that everything reported is correct, and it makes sure the perceived incident is correct.
They're just trying to find an excuse other than total stupidity. if they're lucky this kid smoked weed or had some "bath salts" at this get together or sometime in the three weeks prior and they can let everyone know it COULD have been a contributing factor. Just like the face eater. No one is actually responsible for their own actions anymore.
Maybe they're trying to determine if he drowned in the pool first?
You dumbass!!! There's an unemployment solution right there. Now watch all the bleeding heart liberals come out demanding tighter gun laws!!!
It was probably a gun-nut's kid, some right-wing nutjob family -- so I doubt the liberals will care that there is one less mindless BuyBull thumping gun crazy in the country.
The Brady Bill was written by a Republican. "The most restrictive gun control bill written and passed." President Reagan opined that the Brady Act would provide a crucial "enforcement mechanism" to end the "honor system" of the 1968 Gun Control Act (a result of the JFK assassination) and "can't help but stop thousands of illegal handgun purchases......Brain washed Conservatives need to look up the facts and stop trying to blame it on the wrong people.
Dumb. Did the 3 friends keep playing?
I actually wondered this one too....
Sure. The other three would want to know who the winner is, wouldn't they?
what did he expect? god bless the family
if your cult god was real and it actually gave a damm about the kid and his family, maybe he would have caused a misfire.
grow up, and stop your thumb-sucking.
While atheists may just be right, one thing is for sure. 99.999% of them are arrogant douchebags. Way to keep up the momentum!
You know, Bernitch, I understand you have a need to stroke your own ego by blasting other people out of the water with your insults, but this one was uncalled for.
I personally do not care if you believe in God or not. Just stop being a dick...
Bernitch's post was a bit blunt but was he a dick? I didn't see him put down anyone. He just told the truth and made a rather valid point. If you want everyone to be nice and cuddly, okay...but generally, the world has never worked that way.
First shot, right off the bat,baaad luuuuck! Everything happens in Florida!
They probably forgot to take the other 5 bullets out of the gun.
Russian roulette isn't played will 6 bullets!! Why do you think they have to spin the chambers?
@ clarkjoebob
Good thing that redwingnut06 was here to explain it for you huh? LOL
@Hatchet-101....Another candidate LOL
So you can't play russian roulette with an automatic, and you shouldn't leave a round in all six chambers of a revolver?
clarkjoebob- good one
Drugged up?
That would make your day wouldn't it?
maybe he heard his family was moving to arizona...
Whether this stupid kid was drunk or high on drugs doesn't excuse his actions.
Your still accountable for your actions stoned, intoxicated or not.
He would still be an idiot wether drunk,high or plain sober.
Ok,one more time.
ONE round in the cylinder leaves you with FIVE empty chambers!
Not one empty... ah never mind.
Not in a .38 it doesn't.
Five chambers in the cylinder. One round, four empty chambers.
He was standing his ground. Bet he won't play THAT game again! Seventeen and stupid. Is there any intelligent life in Florida? That governor is a real piece of work.
Oh there is intelligent life down here..the problem is finding it...What ever happened to the old "You show me, I'll show you mine"? Kids today are just dumb and lazy!
kountryking:
1. What the f**k does the governor have to do with this?
2. What absolutely wonderful state do you live in?
3. When you get a moment, try googling the term "trolling".
Now what the hell does the governor have to do with it? I'd be looking at the parents of these kids, not the governor. Typical response to go and blame everyone else but the parents..No wonder kids are dumb!!
It's at least refreshing someone blamed Florida's governor instead of Obama. I thought he was responsible for everything bad in our country.
no, no no....it was Bush's fault....
Yes, he stood his ground and removed himself from the planet.
Yeah he stood his ground all right..6 feet under it!
@spider-737231 I looked up kountryking's profile...typical of someone from the New York/New Jersey area where they rant and rave over obese kids from soda!
lay off the soda you fat f*cks!
Stalker.
Have you seen Florida's choices for representation in the past?
I am sure the larger masses are convinced the kid won the game.
After all, if a 6 shot revolver, he only had a 16.666666666666~ chance of winning the lead round. Odds were against him being successfully and terminally idiotic on the first try.
No doubt, Darwin Award!
As for those suggesting the parents were at fault for not teaching him gun safety, I vote you get the Darwin award, because you become the proof that evolution only works in certain circumstances.
Why not just say 1/6. Even forgot the percentage sign... lol
@ Hatchet..So I deserve a Darwin Award too? I'll have you know that I served over 20+ years in the military and have a 20 year old son in the military and having grown up with guns all my life, I learned that in the wrong hands, guns, or any other weapon if used inappropriately, are dangerous.
So, who taught you how to tie your shoes or ride a bike? Darwin? No, probably your parents. So, when it comes to rearing a child and teaching said child right from wrong, the responsibility lies with the parents...At least until the child turns 18 and only then are the parents no longer responsible.. Studies have shown that by the time children are around 3 years old, they already have the traits that will stay with them the rest of their lives.
If you waited till your son was 17 to teach him not to put a loaded gun to his head, you may just be candidate.
Hatchet-101 I retract my earlier statement..I read it wrong..my apologies
If you live in the real world. You learn to think for yourself.
I agree with that.
Make you feel good to be disrespectful to a dead 17 year old? Make you all feel great does it? Aren't you all glad you are just a little smarter than him?
I have no respect whatsoever for people who do dumb s***. And yes I am glad I'm a little smarter than this idiot. You mean to tell me that you somehow sympathize with this? This an act that is so dumb, it's downright hilarious at how stupid some people really are. Also, I'm not the one who has to carry the casket!
I would not carry his casket.
LOL< this is too funny.... Good job redwing! People in this modern world prob. don't even know what respect is! Let alone the kids in this country! And your correct about this being hilarious, I haven't laughed like this for awhile... Reading the comments>
@justme - how is that disrespectful? Maybe the parents should have RESPECTED their child! and taught the idiot gun safety.... I mean shoot, I was 10 when I had my gun safety course and I was living with my mom in California of all places! The most liberal place on the planet!
Are they going to do an autopsy to see if the kid is still dead? No need to do one to see if he is stupid.
Well at least he can`t grow up to be president...
Damn Chicago gunlaws...
Yeah! If they had a law saying it's illegal to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, none of this would have happened! It's all the politicians' fault! -.-
Now where in the hell does Chicago gun laws come into this? This happened here in Florida. Did you not read the headlines? Another one into the gene pool!!
redwingnut06, The Chicago reference was to the former residence of the current administration. Should we nominate you for the award?
Darwin wasn't kidding Republicans. Evolution is real and at work.
And you had to politicize even this tragedy? Not funny, not cool.
@whathappened
Actually this kid was a dope head, left leaning, loon. Complete with hoodie and sunglasses.
Sorry for your loss but I am certain the Democrats will make sure he still votes.
No he was a bible thumping, gun totin, Romney supportin loon. You know the type.
What's wrong with a little truth. Besides, it's not a tragedy when you pick up the gun, load it, place it to your head and pull the trigger. It's a tragedy when someone does this and wants to end there life not when it's for fun!!! It's good he took himself out before he took out someone else with him.
The research on this shows that when groups of teens are together they will often make higher risk choices regardless of the activity. This especially applies behind the wheel.
They had to spend money to research that?
Gollie: my sentiments exactly - they could have just asked me....
A 6 shot revolver with 1 round chambered would yield an 83.3333333 % chance of surviving each round if the cylinder was indeed spun after each attempt! Where did the 16% figure come from????
@ Wa 2
It's called mathematics, and the laws of probabilty.
now add 16.6666666~ to 83.3333333~ and see what you arrive at.
You calculated his chance of survival, I calculated his chance of accute lead poisoning.
@Hatchet-101:
Funny how people can take one thing and use only what they want and not look at the same thing the other way around.
If it was a 2 inch .38 chances are it held 5 rounds,unless it was a Colt.
Then you are down to a 20% to 80% chance.
WA 2 fast: Maybe you need a calculator, you seem a bit fuzzy at math.
The 16% is that chance of the bullet coming out at the first pull of the trigger...one bullet loaded divided by 6 total chambers equals a 16.666666667% chance of the bullet coming out on the first pull. Hell you did the math against the first pull, I would have figured you would've done the math the other way 'round.
Well his parents no longer have to worry about college tuition. Sorry for the lack of compassion but when you are this stupid there is no real reason for you to live.
Well said.
Under Florida Law, he would have been 18 by election day, so his absentee vote will automatically go to Romney.
There are always mitigating factors, mis-fire, jam, etc.. but it really does not matter what side of the glass you are looking from, as long as you see the glass.
Oh, and don't forget...Not doing it in the first place LOL
At least he didn't miss, like the Army turd. Talk about great parenting and really sharp kids.