you pervert

Heheh.. the teacher's name is Mr. Johnson.. heheh

"dude, I have Mr. Wackov for Social Studies this year, and Mrs Jurkov for English! I don't know why we have so many Russian teachers, but I LIKE it!"

I blame the teacher. He should have become suspicious when he started asking questions and nobody in the class raised their hands.

What is goinng on?? They hired a substitute teacher to babysit Mr. Johnson? Why not suspend Mr. Johnson? Why is there 2 PAID teachers in one classroom because one is incompetent? Is this an adminnistrative decision or a Union decision? If this is a union decision then the principal is also an incompetent principal who was promoted beyond his capabilites.

"dude, I have Mr. Wackov for Social Studies this year, and Mrs Jurkov for English! I don't know why we have so many Russian teachers, but I LIKE it!"

hehe, I actually knew a guy named Pieter Jakov, even he cracked jokes about it.

Any guys think that at that age they are not playing with Willy on their own. It's a natural occurrence for a male, but of course it should not be done in class, sorry but lets get real.

Sam as they say "there is a time and a place for everything. A school classroom is not an appropriate place for a good old fashioned circle jerk. No one denies that wee willie is going to receive considerable attention from palmyra and her friends but it just isn't appropriate in public yet. We are heading that way but not there yet. Perhaps in a few more generations public copulation will be as common place as a hand shake but until then it just isn't acceptable behavior.

O.K. So some kids were masturbating in class. So what? That's no big deal. At least they weren't praying.

That would be unconstitutional.

I don't think the kids need therapy or counseling. That's just what boys that age do, hormones are out of control.

What I think needs to be done is cell phones need to be banned from the classroom. I believe many districts already do ban cell phones. But in the days before cell phones, it was pages torn out of a playboy. Honestly, adolescent boys are little perverts, it's just basic biology.

My biology teacher's name was Mike Butts. I remember those funny moments hearing his name over the intercom.

Sounds like this mom is at the a-- end of a telephone game. What middle school didn't have nudie mags and other stuff floating around it? The masturbation in public sounds a little far fetched to me though. Besides, that type of thing would be much better fodder for would be bullies than a bit of tatteling were it true.

ummmm. What about the parents of these children? They are responsible! Dont send your 7th grader to school with a cell phone unless your going to put restrictions on that phone. Dont send your little pervs to school with access to porn! just another example of bad parenting!

really guys? how'd you like your daughter sitting next to them in that class???

kids really masterbate together, publicly? or was one kid just rubbing his jeans? because, if this is true, they're the ones who need the therapy, before it evolves into something criminal with stronger consequences.

it's times like these that remind me of my dear old dad and the things he used to say... like, what're you doin in the bathroom day and night, get out of there and give someone else a chance!

Hey lady! how old are you, grow up! every boy in middle school watches porn and masterbates. Wether it's at school, home, friends house, even under your own nose!! so, quit crying over spilled milk. It's not like they were doing drugs or playing with guns. Porn can be found everywhere and very easily on the web.. It's something you can't control. So let it go.

Pornography = the Denigration of Women. It is about making $multi-millions for the greedy crowd. Nothing admirable or amusing about it.

Pornography = Denigration of human beings.

WRONG! Women go into porn as a way to make a lot of money and not work. Women are not forced into porn. Grow up. Women are the attraction in porn for heterosexual males. They know this. They know what they are doing. Free will. They have it.

Young men with active hormones look at naked women. They do not need therapy. The other kiids do not need therapy. Mom needs to stop playing the game of vitimization. They're kids. Let them be.

Ya know, I'm all for people relieving some stress in their own home and if it's not porn young teen pervs will find something to rub one out to but come on! None of these little creeps were stopped? That teacher is a buffoon.

To Backhouse: you need to buy better quality Pron. You nedd the good stuff when it is two, or more consenting adults being filmed.

This should not have happened and if they can prove the teach knew it was going on in class than he should be fired. What ever studen(s)t had the phone(s) well they and their parents should be punished as well. I don't think anyone needs therapy or is a victim here.

Victims?

Ma'am, boys have done "circle jerks" since...well, since there have been MILF's around.

Be MOST worried that your son was NOT "one of the boys."

Country's broke, been at war for 11 years, politicians are selling out to corporations, the world is armed with nuclear weapons, the environment is in the toilet, the jobs have been exported---and some kids are jacking off in class. Let's get right on these problems by priority.

heard...it doesn't matter what's right or wrong ...just beat it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Pb8q1wOd8&feature=related

Exploitation takes many forms. The very wealthy have been exploiting the rest of us for a very long time, in very many ways.

For folks who see no way out or no future are exploited, used and thrown away. Perhaps a very few make a lot of money - that too is a mirage that is exploited.

Pornography is BIG MONEY = corruption.

Women and children all over the world are used by this industry, and either cannot fight back or are convinced they cannot fight back.

A small percentage of human beings may feel they are choosing to be exploited and denigrated. The myth of "choice" is another deception.

I just hope all the adults involved, teachers and parents, aren't damaged for life. This certainly had to be very traumatic for them. To learn that their junior high school children are so depraved must have been a brutal shock. Counselors need to be sent in force immediately to give solace to the parents, and to explain to them that it is not their fault. With years of therapy, I think the adults can recover, I really do.

Those defending or making light of this behavior are mostly to blame. It's the children of such people who doing this sort of thing. C'mon, porn and masturbating in class, and in seventh grade?! Disgusting. It should not be going on in schools, period.

For crying out loud, help our kids!! This stuff is everywhere. So no-one saw this eventuality with young children and cell phones? Who believes THAT?

We are mammals - I realize that. But what is it with the Big Corporations brainwashing the American people that 'porn' is a cool word used on page one in Merriam Webster, or fashionable American conversation? This is recent and it is affecting our children...

The subject has been put up on a pedestal, Hollywoodized, contained, and made into cool pop culture, when human trafficking is hurting women, children and men all over the world.

Pornography = the Denigration of Women. It is about making $multi-millions for the greedy crowd. Nothing admirable or amusing about it.

Pornography = Denigration of human beings.

Human trafficking does not equate porn.

First off, there isn't an adolescent boy from the age of 12 plus that isn't jerking off to something, magazines, the internet, TV. Something.

Next, the boys were already punished because they got caught. So do we really need to send them to counseling to teach them that there is something wrong with their sexuality?

Pornography does not degrade women, because all women don't do porn; it's really easy to separate from one another. It does not degrade human civilization since voyeurism has already had its place in civilization as well.

So the boys were punished, because they shouldn't have been doing it in class. Nothing beyond this required.

Why couldn't classes have been like that when I was in school? It's sad the parent is to blind to realize that her kid watches porn when she gives a crappy speech about how porn is bad. Without porn we men must go back to cheating on our wives.

I'm sorry, but porn is not denigration. Denigration is being terrified of your own body, being told that it's filthy and wrong to explore your own sexuality, the very thing that has kept us alive and running as a species for so long. Denigration is being told that it's better to get into fights and beat each other up than to touch your One Eyed Wonder Weasel, or to Clean The Taco. These kids don't need therapy, but they do need to know when to whip it out and when not to. At the very least ask for a bathroom pass if you REALLY have to yank it out...

I wish this was some sort of wake up call, but all these parents want to do is victimize their kids like they're perfect angels that could never, ever touch themselves. If anything, they're humiliating their kids by pushing this, and doing far more damage to them and their self-esteem by blowing this way out of proportion. All I see coming from this is a bunch of lawsuits in desperation for some quick money, using the children as a scapegoat for free cash...

A small percentage of human beings may feel they are choosing to be exploited and denigrated. The myth of "choice" is another deception.

Backhouse, choice is not a myth. The only myth is where you get your information. Women do porn freely in the US. Its glorified BY THE WOMEN!! Stop placing the blame on the producers. Without the actresses lining up to get into the business, there would be nothing to produce. Why would they try to force someone to do this if they have another girl wanting to do it? Your argument is invalid.

denver bill 2

I blame the teacher. He should have become suspicious when he started asking questions and nobody in the class raised their hands.

I blame the PARENTS. Just why the hell does a kid need a phone that can access the internet, let alone that kind of stuff on the internet, while AT SCHOOL? Hell, why does any kid need one of those phones at all? It ain't like they're gonna die if they have to go a whole 8 hours without internet access!

Besides, what the hell ever happened to the rule where CELL PHONES ARE TO BE TURNED OFF DURING CLASS?

wlee-950886

Once again anything goes for Liberals, what do you expect with people who have no morals

Yes, you may want to have a discussion about "morals" with your CONservative heroes Boehner, Gingrich, Palin, Cheney -- and, of course lest we forget, one of the most upright and moral of all people, the Reverend Jerry Falwell.

Hey, according to them, it ain't immoral -- unless ya get caught!

wlee...as anyone who lives in CA will tell you....the political views of San Diego lean way to the right. These were most likely the boys of a bunch of neocon, religious wack jobs....pun intended.

Why is this women not parenting her child? Where did SHE go wrong is what she should be asking.

@Backhouse - Always a a victum

Backhouse

For crying out loud, help our kids!! This stuff is everywhere. So no-one saw this eventuality with young children and cell phones? Who believes THAT?

"Everywhere? Really!?! Oh gosh oh golly gee, who'd a thunk it! Someone, call the National Guard, call the Marines, call the Tidy Bowl Man! Get a grip on y'self, Backhouse, it ain't near as horrible as ya want it to be.

We are mammals - I realize that. But what is it with the Big Corporations brainwashing the American people that 'porn' is a cool word used on page one in Merriam Webster, or fashionable American conversation? This is recent and it is affecting our children...

What is it with your kind of people, always trying to brainwash everyone into believing that just because they watch "porn" that they're going to turn into some horrible, diseased, psychotic baby-eater? Hell, I watch "porn" about three times a week, have been doing so for more than twenty years -- and I ain't killed or raped anyone.

The subject has been put up on a pedestal, Hollywoodized, contained, and made into cool pop culture, when human trafficking is hurting women, children and men all over the world.

And the same is true of what the average person has been told about the "American Indian", too. Yep, it's been 'common knowledge" for more than 800 years that the redskins are pure pagan savages -- just look to any pre-1990 Hollywood cowboy movie for "proof". Um, what was the point you were trying to make?

Pornography = the Denigration of Women. It is about making $multi-millions for the greedy crowd. Nothing admirable or amusing about it.

It is denigration of the people on the film crew, too. After all, are they not all also forced to be on the crew, earning a paycheck so they can feed THEIR families?

Pornography = Denigration of human beings.

No, your kind of politics is the denigration of human beings, because you would deny everyone the choice of what they choose to consider "moral". According to your kind, the rest of us are just too blind stoopit and evil to know what is and is not "moral".

First of all, every school K-12 should have a no cell phone policy, meaning that while the class is in session, the student cannot have a cell phone on him/her. Perhaps the classroom should have a shelf or some cubby holes for the students to store their phones while class is in session. Of course, this being California, there will always be that idiot parent who will come to school with her/his lawyer in tow and threaten a law suit over the rule ("individual freedom" or some such thing). And what was the teacher doing while all this was going on? He was "reading" but neglected to check what was going on in his class room during this activity? Something's definitely wrong at that school.

Watching porn and jerking off in class and the teacher isn't fired and the students aren't suspended for a year or at all? Jeez why can't Johnny read or get a job? But every time a school tries to enforce a no cell phone rule the parents have a sh!t fit.

Now, a parent is saying the students were allegedly watching pornography on their cell phones during English class and masturbating.

Oh sure, blame the teacher for the parents stupid mistake and give them a cell phone with video capability. What do you parents think that kids are going to do with those things? Watch sesame street! You parents need to get a wake up call and not allow any kids to have a cell phone. They should be in school learning something instead of indulging themselves.

Just curious. Khalid-2395974 has more likes than any other commenter here. Why was his comment "collapsed" ? Is the PC police able to shut down any viewpoint, even if many folks agree with it?

To all of you Liberals who make excuses for everything, jacking off in public is caused by lack of morals sorry if this offends you BTW I'm an Independent so your pointing out Republicans and conservatives means little to me, but please continue with your excuses

this lady is a crank, wacko, fruit loops i am sure she does need therapy and so does her kids but it is sure not from a few boys doing what boys do- which is make bad judgment calls and look at porn. i have a novel idea why dont parents parent their own kids and leave everyone else be to do their jobs. if every teacher is supposed to be everything to everyone then dont be surprised when nothing gets done or gets done right. crazy i know but i want teachers to teach, not play school counselor, therapist, life coach, doctor, nurse, nanny, parent, nutrionist, personal trainer etc.

This same mother that is complaining about this incident would be the first one to complain if the teacher had confiscated all of the kid's cell phones claiming he had no right to do that. As for wanting therapy for her kid give me a break, kids are exposed to far worse every day simply by watching TV. If the English teacher knew what was going on and ignored it he should be fired. There is no justification for wasting scarce education dollars having two teachers in one classroom just so one can keep an eye on the other who is incompetent. Either the teacher did not know what was going on and did nothing wrong or he is completely incapable of managing a classroom and should be fired. I find it hard to believe that these kids were masturbating in class and that if they were the teacher would simply ignore it.

Harry Balsaki

re: post 3.1

Lets not forget that half of the porn online today isn't even professional stuff. Its amateur couples sharing their special nights online for all to admire or laugh at.

Hey folks can you get away from the politics, this is about porn in the classroom and young boys taking the matter in hand. Has not a thing to do with libs or conser.

Susi-oh,

That seems to be a no brainer doesn't it? But oh no...you can't take the phones away from the poor put upon children less you violate their rights. It's unbelievable! And there have been several case's when a teacher has attempted to do just that and they ended up with a reprimand and threats of law suits and actions taken against them by the so called "concerned" parents for having poor little juniors freedoms infringed upon. And now....here something like this happens and not one mention about what was done to the students involved other than a suspension that could not be "legally" elaborated on... yet they have no problem what so ever in attempting to paint the teacher as some kind of pervert who's supposed inactions "victimized this womans child.

This and a throng of other articles related to incidents of so called "children' engaged in all manner of deviance always end in blaming the teahers in some manor or another and completely and conviently always skirt the real issue. Which is having built and defended a system where the children actually govern the school and can run rampant in the halls like some pack of diseased crap slinging apes,without fear..... since punishment is now labeled "abuse" and not one hand or word can be raised to them in protest against of their uncontrolled and deviant behavior without the educators having to defend themselves and their jobs for actually trying to maintain an enviroment that they can adequately do their jobs in. The whole thing is a friggin travesty beyond words! And the future of this society is going nowhere but straight into the gutter! How can it not? All you have to do is read many of the comments on this thread. People actually defending these perverted little bastards with excuses and i qoute from one of several similiar posts above...It's natural for boy's that age to act that way" and my favorite "all it is is hormones out of control". Really? are you friggin kidding me? So now it has become "natural" to jerk off in public? And "hormones out of control" gives adolescent's the license to whip it out where ever they want to relieve... and this is my favorite quote from above some "stress"?

These posts say it all! Actually defending this sort of unbelievably unacceptable public acts of lewd and lacivious behavior is proof positive we have crossed into some warped and diseased realm of self satisfying approval of perversian and degredation that is certain to seal the documentation of our doom as a society! We've friggin had it! If the teachers in this country had a grain of sense they would all get up from their desks march out to their cars and never come back! Because they are fighting a battle that no one will allow them to win while all the while being accused of not caring.

Well...i damn well don't blame them if they don't. Nobody else doe's..not judge,nor lawyer, poitician or pedestrian and obviously not even the parents of most of these children. Why not just walk out and let these miscreant hordes we mistakenly call students just go ahead and devolve back into to grunting and pointing to communicate while hanging from tree limbs and throwing wads of sheet at eachother? Hell they are already more than half way there!!

wlee- We need to place the blame solely where it belongs. On republicans!! The teachers don't ask don't tell was clearly modeled after the republicans policy of the same name which for your benefit wlee, since you don't have a very good memory, is don't ask don't tell. Republicans are the ones visiting all the prostitutes so what do you expect Junior High School students to do. They get their direction from adults. Republican adults simply set bad examples.

To all of you repubtards who make excuses for everything, jacking off in public is caused by lack of morals sorry if this offends you BTW I'm an Independent so your pointing out liberals and means little to me, but please continue with your excuses. Republicans unfortunately have no morals. They have no morals about stealing peoples pensions. They still don't want wall street to pay back what they stole. Republicans think banks have a god given right to reposes homes even when the owners can make sufficient payments. Republicans think its OK that so many people die because they don't have health insurance. Because of their immoral greed, repukes don't care that American is going down the trash chute,

I'm not surprised at this at all. Back when I was in middle school, there were a few questionable cases of guys in a couple of classes that would put their jacket down in their lap during silent reading time.. with one hand conveniently underneath it.

No morals.. blah, blah, blah. So to those so offended and "shocked" by such things, tell me, what would you do if you had reason to believe a student was jerking it in the classroom? Would you run over and make a scene? Tell me, specifically, what you would do, either as a teacher, a peer, or a parent. What the hell can a parent do about it anyways? Guys are going to jerk it as long as it's physically possible.. to mags, on the internet, in their heads, whatever it takes. You think this is depraved behavior?

Sexual activity in public is nothing new. Couples often go behind the bushes, do it in a parked or even moving car, in dressing rooms, etc. Oh well. And yes, guys and gals are known to rub one out in the classroom discreetly. Quit trying to make this sound like it's some new societal issue. It is what it is.

Hey Joe, at first I thought you were being serious with your comment, but when I read some of your other comments on different articles, I think you might have been using sarcasm. Were you using sarcasm or were you being serious? If you were using sarcasm, I think a lot of athiests thought you were being serious about the praying in schools statement. I can tell that by the amount of votes you got.

Aside from all the adolescent humor and cell phones and liberal idiot and rethugs, the key issue here is that kids were whacking off in CLASS. Now, notice that a large percentage of American students are dumber than a box of rocks, perhaps actions like this play a part. You don't go to school to learn to masturbate or view porn, any parent who thinks otherwise needs counseling, you go to school to learn things like history, math, english etc. Whacking off is left for the advanced liberal arts college curriculum.

Some kids jacked-one-off and this is national news? In my day this was called normal activity... sure, it was a bit audacious to do it in school but then again in my day we didn't have cell phone video or I'm certain we would have! I worry more about the kids that don't masturbate and the parents that are shocked that their kids do.

Ok so doing it in school, in class can't be acceptable but really America is WAAAAY too uptight about sexuality - this country is more like the repressed Victorian Europe than a modern society.

"I do expect a phone call. I want therapy, I want some kind of counseling, not just for my son, but for other children victimized in this situation," Duran said.

1. i kind of doubt a teacher would openly allow this if they knew. porn is one thing.... jerkin it in a circle? bunch of guys... eeew? maybe those are the kids who need therapy. this broad see's payday.

2. if one of these degenerates were my kid, call a proctologist... my boot is goin in.. they can tell him to meet me at the state institution, dropping my kid off for evaluation, because something isnt right.(kidding to a point)

3. IF ANYONE should be appologising right now... its the parents of these kids. (after they have had their boots removed from someones behind as well. The SCHOOL had no right to make such a suspension public, and that was done on the mothers behalf. (she wants payday)

4. Lady... if your kid in 7th grade was traumatised, along with other kids, and not perhaps "creeped out", or "grossed out", meaning you suck as a parent. your kid will die from some other kid jumping out of a locker yelling BOO! of a massive heart attack. weak....

more tax dollars out the window folks.... wave bye-bye!

Aside from all the adolescent humor and cell phones and liberal idiot and rethugs, the key issue here is that kids were whacking off in CLASS. Now, notice that a large percentage of American students are dumber than a box of rocks, perhaps actions like this play a part. You don't go to school to learn to masturbate or view porn, any parent who thinks otherwise needs counseling, you go to school to learn things like history, math, english etc. Whacking off is left for the advanced liberal arts college curriculum.

Children in America aren't "as dumb as a box of rocks." We still produce some of the Earths greatest minds. I like how you firstly posit that children are dumb and should be learning more, then attack college curriculum.

The majority of people don't care for science or engineering. They don't care about the world events or bettering themselves intellectually; you can't fix this, it's innate. Some people want to scour out for new answers and ways to solve complex problems others just want to consume and live a typical life were they earn enough to support a family. One way isn't necessarily better or superior to the other. It takes all kinds of people to make and support a functioning society.

You may not go to school to learn to masturbate and look at porn, but nature has a way of teaching kids these lessons. If they weren't looking at porn they'd be trying to get the girls to touch their willy. It isn't amoral or wrong, it's just the way of world.

Again they were punished for looking at porn in class; it isn't ushering in the apocalypse or the wrath of God. Kids whacked off when I went to school, they whacked off before that, and they will be whacking off way into the future too.

mygirl1.. see post 1.49.

"You don't go to school to learn to masturbate or view porn..."

What do you think you can do about it?

Ok, here's a short list of things that could be done, hypothetically speaking (with no consideration of cost):

1. A thorough search of all students' belongings going in and out of school each day.

2. Video cameras set up in classrooms, halls, and yep even bathrooms! Can't have them trying to sneak a rub in there..

3. A cell phone ban. (Good luck trying to enforce this one)

4. No internet access on classroom computers. There is simply too many places to see naked no-no parts on the web.. you can't block/filter all of it. So all materials must be accessible only through a local area network and in the library.

5. In addition to hall monitors, we can have "public decency" monitors regularly watch for suspicious students.

6. Parents, parents, parents! They need to be standing over their children at all times. I'd even include bed checks! And if a kid was found to be masturbating, they should be terrorized and shamed to no end. That will fix it. A terrific example of taking care of it at home before it gets to the schools!

... and I'm sure you can come up with many more great ideas, right?

In all seriousness though, give a kid 5 minutes alone, with or without viewing material, and they will find a way to get it done in the time allowed. There's really nothing that can be done, or should be done for that matter.

Set boundaries at home, then it would not be a problem in public. Send Johnny to bed with boxing gloves on - that may make it more difficult? I doubt it. At that age - some boys are nearly a walking erection.

It just doesn't take much for them to "pull the trigger".

I just hope they were required to clean up their own messes.

Old joke: "We were so poor, ... the kids would have had nothing to play with - luckily my kids were all boys.

I seriously doubt the kids were flogging the bishop. Teens usually deny that they choke the one eyed monster and to be seen wresting the snake in public would result in endless ridicule - at least back when I was in school.

And kids shouldn't have smart phones at all. give them the kind that can call only.

Tsk. You folks need to lighten up or else go read up on sarcasm. Masturbation seems a-ok to you in a middle school classroom? Really?

I've taught, the way you handle the situation is to get up off your butt and wander over to the section of busy little boys, and admire their hand held devices. Most of them will do their damndest to hide their inspirational material and that little stiffy will shrink real quick.

Hyperbole seems to best describe your responses. Instead of looking at the context of the 'event' you focus on the acceptability of masturbation, especially in the classroom surrounded by other students who might not enjoy watching their classmates whack off. You want to watch your office mates whack off? I can see it now, boardroom meeting, one fellow sitting there spanking the monkey and the rest of the table launches into a discussion of the merits of masturbating in public, yeah right.

BTW: Since you all are so determined to defend said publicly viewed masturbatory zeal, is it because you yourselves endulge in public or want to? If the latter is the case then perhaps you should indeed indulge yourselves in public, use every opportunity to do so. Break out the phone or other internet access device and have at it, doesn't matter where you are, grocery store, restaurant, work, where ever, nothing should inhibit your self gratification, especially the notice of strangers and little middle school children.

Mygirl, do you really believe they had their dicks out wanking them?

Pocket pool at best. It's always happened in school.

mygirl1

And then the kids will try again later, maybe in a different classroom, the bathroom, or wherever convenient. It doesn't solve the "problem". And what if they have something covering up their "stiffy"? Are you going to lift it up in order to satisfy your anti-masturbatory zeal?

Everyone seems to think phones are the issue. That's a laugh. I think the best a parent can do is talk to their kids, let them know that it's fine but it should be done alone, preferably in the bathroom or in their own bedroom. The truth is that nothing else can be done. It doesn't matter if kids have "inspirational" material or not. They will just daydream and use their imagination and get the same damn result.

Again, it is what it is. And as I said before, there were a few guys that I suspected did it in the classroom when I was in school. I honestly couldn't give a **** as long as it's not out for all to see.

Yup, every boy rubs himself in class, happens all the time, they can't help themselves, might as well encourage them since you can't teach them right from wrong, proper social etiquette or common sense. Got it. Perhaps the school should post pornographic pics on the walls, save them having to use their phones.

Harry Baklaski or however you spell it, I'd like to direct you to an organization known as the Pink Cross. Here's the link:

>Edit< this site removed the link. here's try #2

thepinkcross . org

This is an organization run by people that have been in the porn industry, and its goal is to help rescue men and women from it. Read some of the stories there. It will really change the way you look at porn in general.

I love how the people that are appalled by kids "masturbating" in school jump right to the imagery of grown men flogging the whipping pole in a circle-jerk extraordinaire... just like the porn they watch after the kids are in bed!

Of course at this age we're talking about some pocket-based-friction leading to an abrupt climax... not a 15 minute long build-up to Old Faithful...

mygirl1

Nope, you don't got it. You are, however, very defensive in your last few posts. Who needs to lighten up again?

By right and wrong, do you mean to say that masturbating is wrong, regardless of where it occurs?
If so, then proper social etiquette, obviously, doesn't apply because it's not proper behavior in the first place. Common sense tells me that boys and girls going through puberty rub themselves because it feels good. When did you first discover this "common sense"? And don't deny that you never did..

I stand by my previous post. Parents can tell their kids to keep it to themselves. While I wouldn't tell my kid it's fine to do it in school, I would hope that they at least have enough sense to keep it to the bathroom if they choose to.

Again, personally it doesn't threaten/harm me at all if a student decides to rub one out.. as long as it's not being done in front of everyone's face.

But whatever, preach morality all you want. Won't change anything.

@dafrogman: Your comment shows exactly what this was about, according to earlier reports. the boys had set up a "gay test" to exclude and probably bully any classmate who wasn't within the acceptable hetero fold. It reveals 2 things: the ignorance of adolescent males (and too many adults) about arousal in response to visual stimuli--including the homoerotic thrill of seeing other guys jerk off, whether the participants are gay or het--and the need to defend against the possibility that anybody might be other than "normal"

I'm sure that's not what you meant to emphasize, of course.

There is no justification for wasting scarce education dollars having two teachers in one classroom just so one can keep an eye on the other who is incompetent.

I think the xtra tchr was there to keep both eyes on the boys who can't refrain from whipping it out, not to supervise the other tchr.

I find it hard to believe that these kids were masturbating in class and that if they were the teacher would simply ignore it.

I don't find it hard to believe at all....what tchr wouldn't be sitting there blinking really hard & thinking o hell no I did not just see what I think I did! while frantically wracking their brain as to WTF to do about it?

And what's he supposed to do?

Leave himself wide open to some trumped up *child molestor* chg, lose his tchr certification, get put on a sex offender registry, never be able to get a decent job again....if he were to walk over & physically remove their grimy little mitts from their penii, announce to the entire class that they're doing something sexual, or bring up the subject of masturbation in an English class. He also couldn't get into a tug-of-war with 9 kids over their iPhones & confiscate them. Even if having a cell phone in class was a violation of schl policy, the tchr can only report the violation, not take the kid's personal property away.

B/c you know parents would've been screaming had he done any of the above.

He was in a no-win situation. All he could legally do was to state that if certain ppl continued certain (nameless) behaviors, then he was going to write up conduct referrals on said (unmentionable) behavior.

What do you think he should've done?

the key issue here is that kids were whacking off in CLASS.

I reckon the mommy who demands counseling (& is probably embarrassing the hell out of her son by doing so publicly; nah, he's not going to get bullied next yr) & the rest of the parents didn't do a good job of tchg their kids what is & isn't appropriate public behavior. I would also guess the parents never addressed any type of sex education w/ their innocent darlings, either.

You don't tell a kid it's disgusting behavior for which he requires a mental health eval, jeez. You tell them (when you catch them doing it, as you invariably will if you have boys; how blind were these parents?) it's OK & natural but it is something they should be doing privately.

4. Lady... if your kid in 7th grade was traumatised, along with other kids, and not perhaps "creeped out", or "grossed out", meaning you suck as a parent. your kid will die from some other kid jumping out of a locker yelling BOO! of a massive heart attack. weak....

LMFAO

Sad but true.

The teacher needs to go if he even suspected what was going on and didn't do something to stop it. Counseling for those kids, though?? C'mon! They weren't harmed in any way, shape, or form. If any of the female students who saw it were offended and feel they need counseling, fine. I think the parents are the ones that are going to need the counseling, though! This mom needs to get a grip. It's a young teen boy issue. The worst part is that they have NO sense of control. THAT needs to be addressed!!

Humans, homo sapiens, are ONE SPECIES in the animal family. We procreate, we like to play, and we're quite bright - but maybe relatively, not as bright as some other species.

Our potential is very big, but we can be dumbed down, and kept limited to a few ideas.

Will you buying into what the Big Money guys tell you that you want? Is that all?

Will you keep listening to what they TELL you women want?

If we keep believing that everyone wants to be dumbed down and deserves to be dumbed down in service to corrupt money, then that is the future we will create.

I must say, this has turned into quite the discussion. A lot of you "shocked and upset" parents need to lighten the F up.

I grew up in the 80's, in a small town of about 3500. Our high school was built in 1910 or so. There were so many places to hide and old locker rooms no one knew about. I had an old key that worked in some of the unused area doors. We'd take girls under the old gym and have sex during class. I mean, its not Pumpin the Pickle to the Classics in English class, but I thought it was pretty cool at the time.

Children aren't scaled-down 30 year olds. (I hope you don't have children.)

Do the right thing and let kids be kids. With all the TV and movie influence today, that is not an easy thing sometimes. They need productive role models.

Children just don't think like adults, and they are not all YOU. And we don't all have your ambitions in life.

Young boys as well as girls, are hurt tremendously when they learn unexpectedly about the business of greedy sex exploiters. It is just NOT on their radar, and no reason to be.

Let's help children be children and explore the world as children, until they're ready for the next phaze of dealing with the world.

i am appalled that there is ANYONE in this thread that thinks this is normal behavior:

boys in an active classroom where there is a teacher up front, huddled around a cell phone showing porn while the boys are masturbating ... with OTHER kids in the room (boys and girls).

THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR???? so i guess if you were out at a restaurant and the couple next to you started having sex, you're okay with that, right? what if your daughter was in the classroom? you okay with that?

and the mother wasn't asking for counseling for the boys masturbating .. she was saying HER SON and the other kids in the classroom who were victims .. should have counseling.

"Duran says her son was not involved in the incident but was in the classroom at the time"

...and I'm the tooth fairy. None of the parents were responsible but their precious little loads all had phones.

William Bentley

Mygirl, do you really believe they had their dicks out wanking them?

Pocket pool at best. It's always happened in school.

i dont care what school you go to, went to... especially if it was pocket pool... what kind of scab would rub one out leaving a nut spot on his/her pants for the entire class to see, the person is sic, and needs help. i am a guy, and i find it no matter the age, f'ing nasty! you maybe into shaking hands with hands moisturised with nutcream, most people do not. AT LEAST save it for the rest room... it was morally wrong.

NASTY! NASTY! NASTY! NASTY! NASTY! NASTY! NASTY! NASTY!

They were in the 7th grade; you can infer that they were most likely shooting blanks.

I'm just trying to convey to people who think they had their dick out whacking it for all to see that it most likely wasn't so.

Naughty, why are you so turned off by something you most likely did all the time? Sure you didn't do it in class, and most people don't, but you did do it. Some people do it in class, so the kids were punished; it's the end of the story. Didn't you ever get a little hand job from one of the girls in your class before? It happened a lot when I went through, and I assume that it sill goes on all the time.

So the boys were rubbing their dicks, why are we so appalled?

Go Mrs Duran! The fact that a parent was involved means that stricter guidelines will be set because their school doesn't want a bad rep. Clear indication the instructor wasn't really watching the kids. To some extent I feel for him, but he should have been able to see two or three kids getting together going "oooh...aaah", and been like, "What's going on over here." I think cell phone confiscation, or making sure all cell phones are off during class, is an accurate measure. I think parents in general need to be more active in their kids lives. This is what happens when parents allow their children to have certain liberties, like cell phones, believing their children will do right, and kids take advantage of it. The internet has made porn way to accessible to children.

@Bently,

So the boys were rubbing their ****, why are we so appalled?

If that had happened in a mall, or other public place, those boys would most likely be on a sex offender list. There are things you do and do not do in public. School is not the place to be rubbing anything off except the eraser sheddings from your paper. The fact that you even asked that question is even more appalling. This isn't male curiousity, this is delinquint activity, perpetrated during class, that was brought to somebody's attention.

Really people, what should be done about this..... Teacher should be immediately fired and preciousl little darling boys should be EXPELLED (not just suspended).

WHY you ask, because it's against the law to masturbate in public. Anyone advocating this is acceptable PUBLIC BEHAVIOR, go masturbate at your local grocery store in front of a cop....Parents of the boys are the poorest excuse of being parents for not teaching their kids acceptable public behavior.....Pissing and defecating are also natural functions but try doing that in front of a crowd and see where that lands you...

jwfun I once volunteered to work clean up at our local fairgrounds after a rock concert. Besides the expected trash of bottles, cans, and wrappers of all kinds and descriptions we encountered urine everywhere, feces everywhere, used condoms everywhere, and used hypodermic needles in numerous places. For what it was worth there was a substantial police presence at that concert and the only arrests made were for the blatant cases of violence. To the best of my knowledge there were no arrests for indecent exposure and only a few arrests for the drug use and public intoxication. Now that was in 1963 when I was still in college.

Things really haven't changed much since then so nothing like this surprises me much anymore. If anything the fact that this behavior is happening at much younger ages is a bit disconcerting. Recently where I live now we had kids in middle school busted for dealing drugs and prostituting themselves in the mall parking lot. These kids were just 12 to 14 years old. In Indianapolise two eighth grade students copulated during a class while the teacher lectured at the board and totally ignoring the behavior because he was afraid of losing his job if he made any attempt to interfere with them. You see the parents there loved to sue teachers who tried to discipline their precious little bundles of mayhem.

You see we have created our own monster here with the "time out" tactic given us by Dr. Spock who ultimately tried to rescind his theory saying it was the biggest mistake in his life. Unfortunately the first generation of these undisciplined brats have found positions in many of our governmental instutitions. Need I say more? LOL This is a systemic problem that will take generations to correct if we start now. If not.... Oh well. You reap what you sow.

Shepherdo, the facts you stated though true, really is immaterial. The point is, THIIS IS UNACCEPTED PUBLIC BEHAVIOR. Of course sex happnes outdoors, in cars, at stadiums. Any place you name,, sure it happens....... Always has and always will.

Happening at a much younger age, well in this case, not true, Circle jerks have been happening for thouands of years. Point is, America is a country of laws, and this is against the law. Many people including celebrities have been arrested, jailed, fined and did time for masturbating in public. Police or 99% of law abiding public witnessing behavior (against the law) would call police. (Ever hear of PEE WEE HERMAN, ruined his career) All people that like to have sex in cars, I would not advocate you having sex, while hou are waiting in line at your fast food drive thru....The phrase "GET A ROOM" everyone including kindergartners know, (too bad these circle jerks aren't as smart as kindergartners)

jwfun it seems that you have missed my point or perhaps I simply did not express it clearly. My point is simply this. Even though this kind of behavior has been with us since the dawn of civilization we have managed to kind of keep a lid on it through discipline. When the Dr. Spock phenomenon came along discipline became a thing of the past for the most part. Why? Because there are ultimately no severe consequences for bad behavior any more. A big "time out" is all you get. Whoooppeeee! Criminals are routinely let off the hook for so called technicalities but victims suffer none the less.

What I am saying is that if we restore actual physical discipline at the earliest ages we restore social boundaries. That is what is lacking today and that is why a 12 or 13 year old child thinks that it is ok to respond to his or her basest desires in a public venue. One there is no shame and two they could give a rat's derrier about what you or I think about it. Listen to the music kids listen to today. "Pump It From The Front, Pump It From The Back" or how about "Business In the Front, Party In the Back." Get a clue here. We are a society with no social boundaries anymore. Anything goes and each new generation gladly takes it farther. We are becoming tribal with our tattoos and piercings and absolute disregard for ourselves or those around us. These are our future Congressmen and women so stand by. The next 20 or so years should be very interesting. LOL

Ah--- aren't the advancements in technology simply wonderful? In the first place, it is illegal for a minor to enter a porn website. Is that going to stop them? NO! You know how it is--- all they have to do is check the box stating that they are 18 or older, and they get in. This kind of situation is only going to worsen in the future. Look at what happened. Pubescent youngsters learning about sex from porn sites. Not good. People are continually complaining about the number of registered sex offenders in this country, and how the number of sex related crimes has skyrocketed. With incidents like this one, it is no wonder why young minds are being diverted from a more normal approach to sexual behavior to one of deviancy. As for the parent who is so-called "deeply concerned", she might as well forget about trying to collect money from the school district, because she is fighting a losing battle. The kids in that particular classroom were not "victimized". It is considered normal/everyday behavior for young people. The majority of children now in their teenage years are constantly exposed to pornography--- in one form or another. Either they see it on a cellphone, or on a computer, or are actually transmiting images of themselves either partially or completely in the nude. This is how our young people are living today. Let's face the facts here. If something is not done very quickly to suppress access to pornagraphic material to our young people, the sex ralated crimes in this country will rise sharply from today's statistics, and unplanned/unwanted pregnancies will follow suit. It is the responsibility of the school to administer the correct prohibitions of cellphone use while the students are on the campus during school hours. After school hours, the children's actions are the responsibility of their parents. If a parent wants for their child to grow up and be on the national sex offender registry, then let them continue what they are doing now. Chances are they will do something bad enough to wind up there.

The nutjobs in California allow everything.

they will take the cell phones away til someone shoots up a school, then all the parents will cry around about how they could not get in touch with there child and that cell phones should be a right for children to keep on there persons in schools.

everybodies children is innocent and would never do anything "bad" or "misbehave". its this mindset parents have of there children that make things like this happen.

believe me, all 9 of those kid's parents who were wacking it would and never will believe it was there kids fault.

@Mark Taft

The nut job is you who think that everyone else need to watch over your kid.

At 7th grade, I have a collection of porn pictures. I would be more worry of my kids if they didn't show interest in opposite sex. However, even if they turn out different, I would still support them.

Oh hey, I bet you would put them in church and think the devil got them, right?

that was my bigest question .cell phones ,?in school ,not only that .mom did not know this

Well, since guns get in school - kinda need cell phones in school. As for the teacher - he's a TEACHER, not an effing babysitter. His job is to teach English, not manners.

When in school, somebody else is expected to look after the kids. That is their responsibility. And the kids are expected to behave and pay attention, not surf porn on their smartphones. Something went terribly wrong here. If you can't see that, something is wrong with you.

Oh hey, did you masturbate in class with your porn collection or in private when you were in the 7th grade?

Do you think it is necessary to go to church to learn to masturbate in private?

they need their cell phones to call their drug dealers.

hmm thinking about this a little more maybe the 9 boys did "shoot" up the classroom.

Pixelate the porn, in the name of God!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKEy0BFfQw

As they taught us in the Army, you grab your rifle with one hand and your "package" with the other and say " This is my weapon and this is my gun, one is for shooting and one is for fun"

Also why does a 7th grader have a smartphone and have full access to the internet? At least put parental controls on it. Sheeshh

At the 7th grade level it is probably more like three strokes and your done... AHHHH! LOL Seriously this is nothing new. A few years ago we had two 8th grade students copulating in the aisle between their desks while their teacher lectured at the board. First of all they were not using a condom and secondly no one seemed to be too concerned about it except for one student who reported it.

When the teacher was confronted by the school authorities his reply was quite simple and to the point. "What could I do? If I tried to discipline the kids their parents would sue me. If I tried to seperate them physically I could be charged with abuse and lose my job. If I report it to the principle after the fact I would be faced with proving it despite other kids denying that it happened." His points are actually rather valid in light of todays attitudes about lack of discipline. Dr. Spock and the time out generation has ruined our national sense of what is acceptable in society. Now we have no choice but to live with the results.

The old saw about "spare the rod and spoil the child" is very on point and we are feeling its effects today. The spoiled brats now run our country. LOL They have no sense of morality or social responsibility at all so why on earth should we expect their children to have any better attitudes than theirs? As I am often fond of saying we create our own monsters. LOL

Bravo Shepherdo886, I couldn't hit "like" enough!!!! I feel sorry for teachers today. They are to be responsible for what the kids do in class (learn, behave, etc) and yet their hands are tied. The parents often offer little to no responsibility for their child's education or actions. They just want to place the blame on anyone else. Growing up, I was expected to get A's & B's, respect all elders (including my teacher) and if I stepped out of line I got SPANKED and grounded! Guess what - I am a fully functioning, successfull adult who understands the meaning of respect.

Boys will be Boys, and at that age....................

Yet the primary question is:

Why are cell phones even allowed into a classroom? There is no need or cause for such in the classroom. None whatsoever.

If a parents has an emergency or simply needs to get in touch with their child then can call the school's office such as parents have done since Mr. Bell invented the telephone.

Should these kids be punished---in a sense yes --for they failed to pay attention to the class and perpetrated sexual acts instead.

However, the primary punishment should be by Mom and Dad by taking the cell phone away for a minimal of 1 year.

And schools----why won't you ban cell phones from within the property of school grounds and get back to educating our children in academics--for that is your purpose---teachers are not hired to be babysitters in fear of a parent's rant!

Because, you would be surprised at the number parents complaining how the school is interferring with "johnny and Suzie's" free speech.

But it's the teacher's fault for the kids having porn on their phones.....

It is the teacher's fault for not observing what was going on in his class room.... and if he did report it... those nine little bastards would of said it was the teacher that caused it.

Silly Shrinks,

In most schools, cell phones are banned, but teachers and schools get sued and in a lot of trouble when they are taken from students even if said student was using it in class. It's a never ending battle.

I had a student use it during his test to look up the answers. (It was a one question essay exam.) The week before, I had taken it from him, and his mom chewed both my principals and me up one side and down the other for touching his personal property. When I saw him with the phone out in class, surfing away on the net, I just notated it in his behavior log and wrote his 0 in the gradebook. He was quiet during the whole class. It was nice and peaceful. He found out I had seen him and given him the 0 when I gave the grades back a couple of days later. (It takes a little while to grade 130 essays.) His mother had the gall to chomp on us again! She said its policy for the phones to be banned. I call Catch 22 on this.

i am wondering why these boys are not brought up on sex offender charges. if you saw a group of men standing out on the street masturbating, they would be arrested, charged with lewd behavior and labeled a sex offender.

but yet 90% of the people on here are saying ... "HEY, leave the boys alone! it's normal behavior to whip your dick out in 7th grade class, watch porn and masturbate."

wtf is wrong with this world.

raven.... go to the doctor to remove the stick that's up your arse.

...lemme guess.... you are APPALLED by my comment....

First, they didn't have their "equipment" hanging out in the wind. They had on sweat pants, so they weren't exposed. The only noticeable "action" was their hands moving in their pants.

Was it right - no

Did they get punished - yes

So take your "holier than thou" crap and shoved it - no wait - you might enjoy that - well shove it, and don't enjoy it.

I am truely disgusted by the posts that are written on here. You are more than welcome to defame me too because well, that's what it seems like many of you like to do. I don't care who you are, where you are from, and why you choose to do something like that, but there are innocent bystanders nearby who were raised differently and who were raised with some dignity and respect. Yes, those students are the ones that could very easily be the ones being bullied in Jr. High, but they were raised differently and they care enough about themselves that this is unacceptable to them. GOOD for those students who told the teacher! GOOD for the parents that want more than a smack on the hand this lewd and disgusting behavior!

I was in church yesterday and heard a quote. I can't find it for the life of me, but the quote went some like this. "In order to be free we must bind our own desires. If we do not bind our own desires government will come in and give rules and laws to bind man." In all honestly, I read these posts and I see how many of you can not control your own desires and could care less of the effects. You want freedom to materbate, than do it within your own home otherwise do not be surprised if one day you find that your freedom is gone.

And to the person that said we need to get our priorities straight, it is the small things that we let go and turn into bigger problems. Look at all the big things. At one point, it was smaller. Don't believe me, ask anyone who has dealt with cancer.

America seriouusly needs to get it's moral compass fixed because this is what is wrong, right here, with America today. We are too greedy and can not control our wants and by doing so have caused so much debt. We want freedom, and yet we are not willing to pay the price. Educated and righteous men created the constutution and many of the freedoms we have today. Are you going to destroy their work all for your desires? There are men and women every day fighting a war (you can debate anyway you choose about this war beccause I am sure I'll hear backlash against this as well) every day for us. Have you thanked a soldier? Where is your graditude? We live in a country where many students could care less about their education (we have party schools for goodness sake). We have a teacher reading all day every day, which with Common Core coming to Jr. high soon will clearly be and should be unacceptable. I am sorry for the students that have him as a teacher and the education you are receiving. What about the parents and students standing up for a better education? It all has to do with small things. We live in a society where mnay expect every thing handed to them on a silver platter.... or they will do a little bit of work, but expect the same amount of rewards of someone who has worked hard their whole life.

Where is this country going? That is something to ask yourself, hoping that you have the knowledge to see that far out ahead. What are your actions doing on a daily basis to protect your freedom? Do you even have an education? Do you show respect, whether you agree with the person or not, to others? Do you work hard? Do you vote? When you vote, do you actually take the time and study the men or women you vote for and what they stand for? When you vote, do you read the questions and find the actual laws that your city, county, state, or country wants to change and see what it really means for you and for your fellow citizen? What are you doing to secure the freedoms that you enjoy?

I am 24 years old. I was raised in a small town by older parents whose parents (my grandparents) were affected by the depression. I was raised to work hard and taught that the only thing that can never be taken away from me is my knowledge. I have friends of many backgrounds. I have friends who are poor and rich, I have friends who are straight, bi, and gay. I have friends who are single, engaged, married, divorced, split, co-habitat living and what other names you want to label a relationship. I have friends who have told me stories of hard-core partying and I have friends that spend their Friday nights reading at home. I have friends who are wallflowers and I have friends who are outspoken and opinionated. I have friends who are atheists, agnostic, Buddhist, and many denominations of Christianity. So when I say I don't care who you are, what your background is... it is true. This society needs to get it act together before someone does it for us. We all may not agree with each other, but we can and should show a little respect for our fellow man (and women too).

Bman..................I agree, the mother is probably a cold fish and would never believe any male would do that! She is over reacting.....................BUT, the problem appears much deeper.

No, this is not appropriate for class BUT neither are cell phones ipods etc. The boys were suspended - end of topic!!

I dont know..its a bit of a sticky situation.

Oh really, you guys masturbated in class? I find that hard to believe.

C'mon. I had a teacher in 8th grade (this is 1979) that would give us all huge erections just by standing and talking (20 something with a tight blouse, yowsa!). Not hard to ejaculate in 8th grade. You could blow if the wind blowed the wrong way. Many a blue ball sitting through that class. Brutal.

Women have no clue.

Now I understand the name..."Yankee" Boy....

Boys, especially teenagers, are able to "rub one out" in under 2 minutes. They have always, and will continue to do so whenever and wherever the opportunity exists. Classrooms, the back seat of the family car, movie theatres, bathroom stalls... none can be exposed to a black light without blinding effect.

Mort44 is correct, women have no testosterone and cannot imagine the influence it wields.

Now, if you'll excuse me, a few free minutes just opened up... and I'm 51!

They have always, and will continue to do so whenever and wherever the opportunity exists.

Uh, no, no, this is not reality for most guys at all. You seem to be forgetting some side effects of jacking off that make doing it outside your home impossible. And of course the public shame.

But you obviously are one long-term, lifelong masturbator who pushed the limits!

Pervert.

janellect

Oh really, you guys masturbated in class? I find that hard to believe.

Nope but did get a hummer under the bleachers though by a girl nicknamed 10 cent bj

Pervert.

And yet, you take the name of a man who's job was killing...

And of course the public shame.

Alo of these manly responses have taken this subject off topic. So why not put it back into your pants and get a life!

if anyone ever reads chestypullers other comments, you would realize that the only "freedom" chesty believes in is the "freedom" to tell others what to do and how to live their lives

Public shame, about masturbation - from someone named "ChestyPuller" that's priceless.

And yes I know who Gen Chesty Puller was (every Marine does) and you sir, aren't even in the same league as he was.

The only people that don't masturbate are lying or dead.

Well Al I can honestly say I've never done it in any classroom or in public, I never felt the need to share it with the public

I don't doubt boys experience erections easily... public masturbation NEVER was and should not be accepted as normal or natural.

They only got in trouble because they were looking at females.

It is not just porn. These boys were jerking off in a classroom with other kids.

The other kids in the classroom were victims of sexual abuse. The sexual abusers were these kids who whipped it out and stroked themselves in a public place where the other kids were forced to watch as the teacher the supposedly responsible adult did nothing.

Great points! She mentioned her son thought he'd get bullied if he said anything. Well, what the heck does she think will happen to him now that she has opened her fat trap to the entire world....good job mom.

At least these kids were having sex with someone they loved and respected.

The adult in the class referred the boys to the principal. They were then suspended. What else should have been done?

Keep in mind that teachers aren't allowed to touch students for fear of being sued for sexual harassment themselves.

..and most likely, with the only one who respects them.

Give me a flipping break here. Teacher should have stopped reading, confiscated the phone(s) and sent the boys to the principal. A letter home to the parents to let them know what their child may have seen would have been appropriate so the parents could actually - you know, parent their children and discuss what happened. School needs to re-evaluate cell phone policy in class. Offenders need to be reprimanded. Therapy and counseling? Sorry, I don't think the school is responsible for helping parents deal with their issues.

Agreed scubasteve!!

The parents of the boys with the cell phones are to blame. They are POOR parents to the100th degree. If they had been taught morals and manners AT HOME BY PARENTS they never would have done this in public. These parents need LOTS of parenting classes. I think a semester of home schooling, not another school, by the mothers and see how they like to have their son masturbating while they are attempting to teach them.

No the parents only fault was giving the cell phone to their kids to take to school.

12-13 year old boys are going jack off anyhow----it is part of thier age and newly reaging hormones.

Take the damn phones away from you kids already for they are causing much more harm than good and are NOT A NECESSARY OR MANDATED SCHOOL SUPPLY!

But then again for those non-invloved parents what do you care if your child spends an entire class texting, sexting and gossiping. Who cares anyhow for obviously mom and dad don't.

Give me a break, CoCo. You mean to tell me that those kids didn't know it was wrong to jack off in class, really?? They need their parents to tell them that? The blame lays squarely on the kids and the dumb ass teacher.

My spouse is a teacher. Teachers are not even allowed to break up a fight, which means physical violence to those involved. Teacher's hands are tied! Forget writing letters to parents. The parents see very little wrong with their little "angel." He/she would never do such a thing! The teacher/school should expect an apology from the kids/parents for doing something they know is clearly wrong. The parents should be tanning the hides of the kids for being an embarrassment. The other parents should be on the phone to those parents asking for an apology and their cells phones should be smashed with a hammer! Quit blaming others for your failures as a parent...or are you just looking for an easy payday?!

The girls dared the boys into "show me yours/I'll show you mine"

And the mom needs to replace the batteries in "her little friend" or buy the new Jackhammer 6000 - it comes with it's own nuclear power supply.

Sure, just put parental controls on everything. That'll fix the problem. How about taking time to teach your kids about these things instead of hiding them in a bubble til their 18? How about realizing that 12 year olds have the mental capacity to "jailbreak" parental controls anyway?

The sheltered ones always turn out to be the most promiscuous ones in college. Shelter your kids from alcohol and they'll just do it behind your back and possibly get alcohol poisoning from drinking too much because as a parent, you didn't educate them on the risks, you just told them "no, it's bad."

We never had parental controls on our computers enabled as a teenager (this is before smartphones). We all got into things that we would have been ashamed of Mom walking in on. My parents believed in this parenting style and raised 3 honest, intelligent, well balanced kids--and not one of us has ever had drug or alcohol problems.

Teacher did everything he thought he could, I'm sure. With all the uppity sue happy parents I'd be scared to intervene too.

Teach and parent your kids--don't just block stuff you don't want to talk about....or this happens.

It's called indecent exposure and should have been prosecuted as such

karen: "The sheltered ones always turn out to be the most promiscuous ones in college. Shelter your kids from alcohol and they'll just do it behind your back...:

Had you been there to tell me that when I was in college, I would have done things differently. I didn't know that was what I was supposed to do.

Teacher should have stopped reading, confiscated the phone(s) and sent the boys to the principal.

Can't be done. Tchrs are not allowed to take away students' belongings or permit them to leave the classrm unaccompanied by an adult. Esp a grp of 9 of them! Not happening. Even when kids are pulled out for remedial help, the remedial tchr has to come fetch them.

The best he could've done was to contact the office & request an admin's physical presence to escort the offenders to the office. Some schls don't have classrm phones to communicate w/ the office, but an old-fashioned intercom. So is he supposed to just announce to anyone within earshot of it that he has 9 masturbating students that need to leave the rm? Even on a phone, the kids in the rm can still hear him speaking.

How exactly was he supposed to delicately phrase this? You don't understand how very careful tchrs have to be about saying anything that could be taken as having sexual context. It's grounds for their dismissal, not the kiddies'.

A letter home to the parents to let them know what their child may have seen would have been appropriate so the parents could actually - you know, parent their children and discuss what happened.

Sure, so then the *outraged parents* could wave it high & complain the author of the letter (tchr, principal, vice-principal, schl counselor, whoever gets tapped for it) is a pervert for daring to suggest their little darlings are. I'm sure if any written communication about the incident went home, it was wordedly very obliquely & approved by the schl board & an attorney.

School needs to re-evaluate cell phone policy in class. Offenders need to be reprimanded.

Reprimanded how?

It's the parents who insist they *need* their kids to have it on them at all times. And it's the parents who will start a riot against the administration or a particular tchr if their kid gets repeated detentions or suspensions for having one. It's pretty much impossible to enforce a no cell phones policy.

Bottom line is, the kid can & will keep breaking a *no cell phones* rule all he pleases b/c no schl personnel are permitted to confiscate a student's personal property anymore. (I once took a switchblade off a 6th grader....who swiped it from his dad to create his own show & tell w/ other kids; it was actually a very nice, expensive-looking, decorative silver & mother-of-pearl thing....& handed it over to the principal so that she could haul Dad in for discussion of the problem & return it to him, but then that was over 20 yrs ago.)

Therapy and counseling? Sorry, I don't think the school is responsible for helping parents deal with their issues.

That one's over the top. I'm fairly positive it wasn't as *traumatizing* for her son as this mother seems to think.

And if it really was, then the kid has deeper problems that the family should've addressed by now. Mom is looking for a freebie here.

If they had been taught morals and manners AT HOME BY PARENTS they never would have done this in public.

It's not even really morals. It's just manners & common sense. You don't play pocket pool in English class, just the same as you wouldn't take a dump in English class.

These parents need LOTS of parenting classes.

Like they'd ever go if it was mandated. It would be both an inconvenience & an insult to them.

I think a semester of home schooling, not another school, by the mothers and see how they like to have their son masturbating while they are attempting to teach them.

I like it LOL

But the parents again would never go for it & the schl district can't make them do it. The most they could do is pay substitute tchrs to come to the homes & educate the little flashers if they got a lengthy out of schl suspension.

It's called indecent exposure and should have been prosecuted as such

I hardly think it was a whip-out. More like a rub-out.

Jeez, at least I would hope so.

CoCo don't got no kids

...Zing!

In Catholic School this would have happened IN the priest's office....

That's what I was thinking, Indigo... ;)

I saw a 13 year old atheist masturbating behind the school. It's natural for them at that age.

It's natural for any male at that age. For that matter, it's natural for any male at any age. In fact, I'll be back in a few...

BfromNY what's taking you so long?

BfromNY,

Hurry up in there! Give someone else a chance!

Done! 3x

I understand what you're saying, but sometimes it's simple economics. We needed to get a phone for our son, and we could pay some outrageous amount for a separate but "simple" plan for him plus $20 for the phone, or we could add him to our plan for half the cost. However, the only free phones were the smart phones - the basic ones started at over $80! Instead, we got him the really cool phone and taught him the base rules, reminding him that it will be taken away if used inappropriately. It's never been a problem yet, but will be dealt with immediately if it becomes one.

I call bull@!$%# on the economics. My daughter (20) broker her phone. Told her she would not be getting a new one with alk the bells and whistles. Went to Target and bought one off the shelf (ATT) and slipped the SIM card in it, $29 fix.

"We needed to get a phone for our son"

No, you WANTED to get a phone for your son. Kids NEED, food, clothes,shelter, a loving home, etc. They don't NEED phones, video games, etc. Let's not confuse needs with wants.

Hey Monkey---why does your child have to have a cell phone. Please justify your comment intelligently and without lousy excuses?

I think a phone can be a need. I was a single mother when my child was in middle school. I looked at the clock on my phone everyday after she got off school and waited for the phone call that she made it into the house safely. I'm sorry, but if she got hit by a car or someone attempted to abduct her, I need her to be able to call 911. Now this whole thing is not about cell phones. It is about kids maturbating to porn in a middle school classroom! That is terrible!!! Whether boys secretly "rub one off" is not the point -- this was apparently blatant and affected the other kids and that teacher & prinicipal should be ashamed of how they handled it.

Our kids had pay-as-you-go phones until they were in college, and one of them managed the pay-as-you-go phone through the end of her sophomore year in college. The phones did not take, send or receive photos or videos, there was no internet access, and the kids loved them. They were very active in after school activities and sports and had tons of friends. They were "forced" to interact with their friends live and in person, not by phone. The phone was a lifeline for the youngest one who occasionally has seizures, and calls home so that we can talk her back from the amnesia that usually follows. Younger kids do not need "smart" phones.

Nik No its not a need. You WANTED security. Got hit by a car? Chances of that happening with NO ONE AROUND is pretty much ZERO. And if they did get hit by a car, being able to call would be like 0 again. Attempted to abduct her? The chances of her being able to pull out her cell phone, unlock the screen, pull up the phone app, dial 911...all while being abducted...again slim slim slim slim slim chance. Oh and when she got home? Its called a house phone, remember those inventions?

I survived school and HS mind you, without a cell phone. Hell i didnt get a cell phone untill i was 19.

Blame? First parents, wtf is wrong with you. Then the kids...Teacher should be able to drop kick the shiznit out of them, no warning, just get up and drop kick. I was raised in a christian school and they had the 'right' to smack me over the head with a wooden 3ft yard stick. I never masterbated in public....hell i was more afraid of talking in class than wondering if any kid was gonna 'masterbate'.

Blame last but not least, all the stupid parents who think for a second that teachers are not able to btch slap your kids when they misbehave, you are why kids grow up masterbate in class knowing full well the teacher cant do a damn thing.

Schools make me angry, parents as well. Hell if my kid did that i would embarrass them so fraking bad they would be asking to leave the country!

Ok, let me re-phrase. We felt it was in our family's best interest for our son to have a cell phone. There is no bus service in our town and our children attend different schools that are twenty minutes apart but let out at the same time. One child attends a school close to home while the other is across town. The child that attends school close to home makes their way home alone (with other neighborhood children) and arrives 5-10 minute before I return with the other child. The local police department posts "safe walking routes" that ironically take the children directly past 2 registered sex offenders. There is no after school program available for the children to stay after, and as most households are either single parent or dual working parent families, I have been unable to locate anyone to transport either child home. After I "lost" my child for over half an hour when they went back to the school to retrieve their backpack (I passed them as they crossed the railroad tracks, and didn't see them when I went looking for them) we felt it would be best if they had a cell phone. For this mom's peace of mind and heart rate, a cell phone for the kids isn't optional. tvsang, what you missed is that we did not have a sim chip to transfer to a new phone on an existing contract, we had to enact a new contract as well which has different rates.

MonkeyMo

The local police department posts "safe walking routes" that ironically take the children directly past 2 registered sex offenders.

right .. why would we want them to walk a route that went past two registered sex offender homes when they can just get the experience in their classroom because their teacher lets a group of boys masturbate during class.

Ya but pulling your pud in from of other boys...WTF

Yeah, I think perhaps you meant to say Remember Play Girl magazine...

Mark, unless you are implying that the boys were watching gay porn then Nature is correct. Boys have been hiding Playboy under their matresses and in the bottom of their dresser drawers since the thing was published. I've only known a few boys who would've had a Playgirl as it is a mag filled with MEN.

I do agree tho, that they should not have been doing any of this in school. While I daresay most all kids by that age (boys AND girls) do this regularly, it does not need to be done in public and certainly not in a classroom. Boys used to be embarrassed to get spontaneous wood in school, now they deliberately look at materials which will definitely cause it? When did they suddenly decide it was ok to just take care of it right then? And what did they use to clean up? Or did they simply claim it was hair gel like in There's Something About Mary? Ewwwwwww!

Well, yeah, as adolescent kids, any peak at some boobies or more drew lots of attention and boys would look at a Playboy or Penthouse mag. But none of us wanked off in front of other people! Geez- it used to be nobody would admit to EVER doing it!

The principal should send a letter to the parents of all the other kids that were in the classroom that day explaining EXACTLY what went on so they can be informed. Give the names of the boys AND THEIR PARENTS.

I never masturbated in front of people when I was that age. But we all know you can do it without anybody knowing what you are doing underneath the desk. Only takes a minute. Nobody the wiser, except maybe when mom does the laundry.

B not a good idea if you happen to be wearing tan pants. LOL This reminds me of a funny story from my youth but unfortunately it would not be appropriate for me to share it here. LOL Pardon me while I enjoy a very large grin in rememberance. HEH HEH HEH HEH

If we had had a Playboy at school, and specially in class it would have been confiscated and parents called. The thing is it would have belonged to dad so not only has he lost his Playboy now he's gotten a call from Principal that his son was caught with it. I guarantee you, not only would I have perhaps got suspended from school, I would have got a behind the barn whuppin, and yes it was legal when I was 13, 14. The problem is we now have parents who were raised by parents who paid attention to draft dodgin, demonstratin and sorry excuse for a doc, Dr. Spock. We also have parents who are non-Christians who don't believe in the Bible, or maybe any religion other than using meth, marijuana, crack, and who knows what else.

I'm wonderin' why this was a boys only class, unless it was in a parochial school. The only class I can remember having was a sex ed class that most of time time included both sexes but during one session towards the end the boys and girls were separated and taught things specific to that sex.

@Ed Orr - You have got to be kidding me. "We also have parents who are non-Christians who don't believe in the Bible, or maybe any religion other than using meth, marijuana, crack, and who knows what else." Did you seriously just say that? So, according to you, anyone who isn't a Christian does drugs? Anyone who isn't a Christian is a horrible parent? Sorry, but a lot of my friends who were seriously messed up when we were teens had Christian parents.

BTW, way to make an issue that had nothing to do with God about God. SMH, typical.

This story doesn't have some of the info that was originally posted. The boys were allegedly participating in what somebody referred to as a "gay test" though the exact nature of what that was hasn't been made clear. Presumably, they might have been looking at examples of gay and hetero porn, and judging each other by their reactions. The masturbation to the "correct" stimulus would then be used to establish cred as a hetero....and probably set up somebody getting a reaction to the 'wrong" stuff for some group-bonding bullying. So it had to be done in a group.

In itself, neither porn viewing nor masturbation is a bad thing. Using it to set a fence around safely hetero public identity isn't much different from other games boys play. sStting somebody up as an outsider based on it is not desirable. And none of it should have been done in class. That's what any equivalent of the back of a barn is for.

...you know, dangling their participles....

Too funny!!!!!! LMAO

They were trying to learn their lessons in a single stroke.

in 5 years it'll be.........the exact same thing with whatever new technology they have. the phone is just the new playboy/penthouse magazine.

Jesus said this would happen.

He might have, if he had ever actually existed...

Perhaps you think it's better if they read the Bible instead. That way, rabid xenophobia, scientific ignorance and the wholesale slaughter of children and innocents can be their guiding principals.

There is historical proof Jesus existed in several non-Christian documents. It's also historical fact that a man called Yeshua Ben Yosef (Jesus) was arrested and executed. It's part of Jewish history and documented in Roman history as well. Whether you choose to believe that he was nothing more than a prophet, scholar and teacher or that He is the Son of God and was raised from the dead as atonement for sins is where faith comes into the picture. He DID exist.

the same things that happened 5 years ago and 5 years before that and 5 years before that and.................................

Omg, you speak British? Kewl!

Did you know that many Germans can also speak Austrian?

Mark_DW boy are you dumb.... germans speak german and so do the austrians you twit

firepixie...that was the joke he was making....

I don't know much Austrian - just G'day, mate! Throw another shrimp on the barby!

Firepixie evidently does not speak "sarcasm".

Doug? LOL!!! Loved it!

:-)

Ick! I may never eat cottage cheese again! Thanks a lot!!! LOL :)

Lukewarm, come again

@bfitz

What the hell does Obama have to do with a breakdown in discipline at a middle school in San Diego you jackass?

I think you meant "cum in hand, eeeeee!"

EEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!! ROFL!!!!

Home of the Masturbating Raisins! Go Raisins!

Coming to a school near you

And how many of those people are homeless, in prison or dead now? 100%? Yeah thought so.

What I EXPECT is NO porn being watched IN school and definitely NO masturbation IN class. Some of you people!!

Children are in school to learn, not to pound their pud. Any of you that condone this behavior are just idiots. It is no surprise why my nephew recently graduated high school and cannot read and write. He tried to fill out a job app. and it was a joke. Our education system has turned into a joke and the reason is all you cowards who bury your heads in the sand because you don't have the balls to do anything about it. Our children are going down the crapper along with parents and the rest of our country. it should not surprise most of you that our country is full of child molesters and other perverts, you seem to be saying this conduct is ok. Sexual misconduct is not ok from children or adults. What the hell are cell phones doing in the classroom anyway, Parents fault and schools fault, everybody should be fired including mom and dad.

Did your nephew cheat his way through school, Carnley? Did his parents work with him at all? How did he pass his state exams without being able to read?

Even I find it hard to believe your nephew graduated HS if he couldn't read or write. Pitiful little liars.

The White Judge,

Sadly, it does happen. Kids do cheat their way through with the help of students who have actually learned something. The teachers who actually encourage this type of behavior are few in numbers from my experience. (Those type of teachers hit the door fast in my school.)

The problem I see with this is that when those kids are caught cheating, the parents and/or family cries and blames everyone but that child.

The state exams are pretty rigorous. Anyone can see a sample of any state to get a feel for what a graduate has to know to be a graduate. And, those exams are about the change with Common Core being phased into each state.

Now I have another reason never to trust our education system. Well I guess that's good anyways since I home school my daughter.

... Children are in school to learn, not to pound their pud. Any of you that condone this behavior are just idiots. It is no surprise why my nephew recently graduated high school and cannot read and write. He tried to fill out a job app. and it was a joke. ...

Put the "blame" squarely on the reason Johnny can't read".

School has the doors open for 180 days a year, most states provide the environment for learning - seat, desk, teacher, text books, etc. Some school district provide transportation, pencil and paper too. Then you have Federal programs for free breakfast, free or highly supplemented School lunches. All that is required from the student is keeping the noise level down to dull roar and the ability to curtail squirming in his/her seat for 45 minutes to an hour, 4 to 5 times a day.

Are still waiting for education to be assisted" Next step is a choice between relying on - Education by "Osmosis" or have the student come in sit in a recliner; then a combination of "smart pills" and A/V techniques... we educate student using an IQ - IV? Just strap them in for 6 hours a day, then feed in the lesson for the day, intravenously. Just what we need, schools for zombies - fed a low-dose of brains and neat and tidy, no effort required from the student. If they try to leave too early ... well the IV is already on their arm, just slip in a dose of lithium to take off the edge,.

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Johnny can-t read - because no one wants to push johnny, require that he learn the lesson plan. We all know that force is never acceptable against rebellious young people. Its the "teachers" job to inspire Johnny to read - johnny can't be bothered to participate in his own eduction.

A fair amount of people have gone to jail for public masturbation. It's sexual abuse with real effects on it's victims. I guess we should just let it go when some guy masturbates in front of a kid hmmm?

so your saying they should put these children in jail? well they are already able to jerk it in front of men so seems like they would fit in

im not telling you you are a few 'short of a six pack'.

Millidad, I understand you when you say it is illegal to masterbate in public but to call it sexual abuse with real affects on the victims? LOL So if we are both in a bathroom standing next to each other at the urinals and you look down at my schlong or I look at yours, are we sexually abusing each other? After all, it is in my hand. Careful, I may shake one too many times! Bring on the therapy.

And I absolutely don't believe that anybody should be masterbating in front of others unless it's in private and consensual.

If the boys were circled up, many of the girls may not have noticed (or been able to actually see anything of significance). However, for those that did - and even those that didn't, as you know the story is all over the place now, I bet most of them now know who they *won't* be hanging out with or dating. This is going to follow those boys with repercussions for years!

They are your next date rapists.

Hey MONKY MO, nobody is going to remember this story years from now so I don't think there will be repercussions.

COCO, So what is your theory? Masturbation is an "introductory" crime? LOL

James, do you have a daughter? I'm fairly certain you wouldn't appreciate some boy jerking off in front of her

B, I think you are forgetting what it was like in school. Heck one kid in 2nd grade ripped one and people remembered it in 7th grade (if I recall his name was Tony something). The general public won't remember any of it, but the classmates will still be talking about at their 10 year reunion.

With the point of view that society now takes toward parenthood, I do not understand why such an incident would surprise anyone, no matter that it happened at school. And what was the teacher really doing? The boys were suspended, but not the teacher? How rediculous.

wlee,

I have two daughters, they both know how to handle themselves in any situation. I am very sure even as teenagers they would find this whole incident pretty ridiculous. Why? because even at that age they were more mature than many of the commentators here!

The original story said this was an all-male class.

Masterbation is a "gateway" activity. It leads to more dangerous activities...like real sex. But seriously, they need to be taught about the dangers of not using protection during a circle jerk.

The kids who did the deed certainly were not the victims!! The children who were exposed to it were. And why not hold the parents accountable? Don't the teach their own children what is acceptable and what is not? They want society to do everything for them. I'm not saying the teacher is not lousy because he is. But the blame lies with the parents too.

Another good reason for HOME SCHOOLING!!!

Or at least til they need glasses.