3 children electrocuted while swimming in lakes; 3 drown in river

Saul Young / AP

Evidence tape covers an electrical meter near two houseboats at German Creek Marina on Cherokee Lake in Bean Station, Tenn., on Wednesday. One boy died and another was critically injured after an apparent electrocution.

Updated at 8:40 p.m.: Three children died -- two in Missouri and one in Tennessee -- after they were shocked by electricity while swimming in lakes, authorities said.

In another tragedy, three children drowned in the Iowa River, police said.

In Missouri, 13-year-old Alexandra Anderson and her 8-year-old brother Brayden of Ashland were killed when they were shocked around noon by an unknown source of electricity while swimming near a private dock in the Lake of the Ozarks, KSHB-TV reported


Several adults got the siblings out of the water but couldn't revive them. They were pronounced dead at Lake Regional Hospital in Osage Beach.

The Missouri Highway Patrol said investigators were looking at electricity powering lights and a pump that supplies water to a slide children use at the dock, but they had not determined what had caused the electrocution by Wednesday evening.

The accident in Tennessee happened near the German Creek Marina on Cherokee Lake in the town of Bean Station. Two boys were swimming in the lake between two house boats when they were shocked, the Grainger County Sheriff's Office said, WBIR-TV reported.

Saul Young / AP

The scene at German Creek Marina on Cherokee Lake in Bean Station, Tenn., on Wednesday after a boy died and another was critically injured in an apparent electrocution.

Both boys, whose names were not released, were originally reported dead, but Sheriff Scott Layel said one child was revived on a medical helicopter flight.

The sheriff's department said several other people were taken to the hospital in Morristown to be checked out because bystanders trying to rescue the boys were shocked as well.

The marina was evacuated as a precaution. Authorities were searching for the source of the electric current. 

Layel told the Knoxville News Sentinel that wiring in the bottom of one of the houseboats might have caused the shocks.

It was uncertain whether the boys were shocked in the water or when they touched the metal ladder of one of the houseboats, Layel said.

A visitor from California, Paul Worley, told WBIR that he was temporarily paralyzed when he jumped into the water to try to rescue one of the victims.

"We heard the screaming, and we ran down there and saw a kid and a lady in the water," Worley told WBIR from his hospital bed in Morristown.

He said he jumped into the water not knowing it was electrified.

"I went down about 3-4 feet, and I figured 'I'm dead' because by then, I knew what it was."

He said despite the shock he tried to get one of the children to a nearby jet ski.

"I know when they cut off the electricity from the boat. I didn't feel the electricity anymore," he said.

WBIR said Worley was expected to be released from Lakeway Regional Hospital Thursday.

Drowning claims three other children
In another incident, the bodies of three children were found in the Iowa River Wednesday night near Marshalltown, NBC station WHO of Des Moines reported.

The station said the children were reported missing around 6:30 p.m. and the bodies of two girls and one boy, ages 6-10, were found just before 9 p.m. Police say the children were swimming in the river. 

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This is so sad, especially about the children. Just out having fun and the day is ruined... Can see a huge law suit coming out of this.

I, lost a friend in the 80's to a similar incident. Was swimming and grabbed ahold of a dock that someone left an extension cord out and it went in the water. What made it twice as bad, was that he was at his girlfriends place and they had to tell his wife.....

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#1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

I felt bad right before the last sentence.

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#1.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

This is the reason that most marinas have signs posted that there is no swimming in the marina. Stray electrical current is a well known problem around marinas due to improperly grounded electrical systems both on the docks and on many boats. This is why virtually every boat uses sacrificial zincs to keep the stray current from eating away at underwater metal parts on the boats. Swimming in a marina is never a good idea, even if there are not any signs posted prohibiting it.

This is a very sad story and I feel for the family that lost two children. That said, I do not see any lawsuits coming from this as there were probably no swimming signs posted that were ignored.

  • 56 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

As a Casualty Insurance Underwriter I see at least a million dollar lawsuit and more if they have an Umbrella policy. The Marina and Electrical Contractor who wired this at least will be in front of the judge. I am sure the phone calls are coming in from the Ambulance lawyers right now.

May the family gain some comfort from each other in this tragedy.

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#1.3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

Thanks for the knowledge, JS in SD.

I wasn't aware of this. Now I know.

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#1.4 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

Seconded. I didn't know not to swim in marinas either.

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#1.5 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarNewswinner101Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Conservatives think that Obama caused this...

  • 16 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarEllieMae3catsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

On the flip-side....won't Obama blame Bush for it?

  • 24 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:02 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMike-923263Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hell, you mean it's not Obamas fault? Why do retards got to make everything political?

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#1.8 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:04 PM EDT
Comment author avatar10tacleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@ Newswhinner: considering that your guy Obama blames every single failure of his polices on Bush, why not?

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#1.9 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

Futhermore I don't see any lawsuits coming from it either. Especially the electician. How can you blame him? Do you know when he did the work? Do you know who all has worked on or modified anything electrical at this marina and when? Were they certified? Do you know that the electric came from the dock? You don't have answers to any of those questions, so how can you start pointing fingers?May God be with the family members in their time of need, God bless you all.

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#1.10 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

RIP and peace to their families. What a strange tragedy. We never know; each moment is precious and we are very fragile. P-l-e-a-s-e leave politics out of each and every thing.

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#1.11 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:27 PM EDT
Comment author avatarNewswinner101Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Uh, because almost EVERYTHING wrong with America is the fault of Republicans? DURDURDURRRRR

Republicans caused Americas problems, plain and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an IDIOT.

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#1.12 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

I live pretty close to Cherokee lake. The marinas aren't new, they've been around for a long time. I couldn't tell you if their maintenance is good or bad. I know we don't hear of many drowning in that particular lake, much less at the marina.

Over the weekend 4 swimmers were drowned, all going against the posted precautions. One kid died at Warriors State Park by climbing 90 feet to jump into the Holsten River. It's posted...he ignored it, he died. Same thing at Boone Dam. Swimmer went outside of the roped off area for swimmers, very well posted, he went down and didn't come up.

This was a totally preventable tragedy, but still my heart goes out to the ones who suffered such a grievous loss.

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#1.13 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

Seven wins with the correct answer - yes they can sue. Having a Beware of Dog sign acknowledges that you knowingly admit to harboring a dangerous animal on your property and you are liable for that dog.

We used to run into water mains that had electrical currents running through them - seems some of you weekend warriors like to by-pass codes and skip getting permits, and just ground your electricity to copper water pipes rather than buy a grounding rod.

The topper was when a different contractor working 50 feet away from us hit a natural gas line - some dumb ass cop shows up and starts sparking up road flares to keep traffic away from the site.

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#1.14 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

I read about a similar incident a few days ago, where a little girl died that way.

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#1.15 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

drainbramage: Just a ground wire isn't enough to put current into a water pipe. otherwise whenever they went pee pee or took a shower well YYYOOOOWWWWW ZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZ...

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#1.16 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

We have the tragedy of dead, and injured children, and adults, but some people cant help but bring up the hatred in their hearts, and souls that they have towards someone with different political beliefs..Pathetic.

May the family's find peace after their loss.

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#1.17 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

Check the wiring/grounding of recently added/replaced submersible pumps, appliances and circuit breakers.

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#1.18 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

yep...gotta have the political whiners...even when it's the most simple of stories, some idiot will bitch about some political figure...

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#1.19 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

I think about how many times we went swimming in areas that were probably dangerous when I was a child-these strange boats called "party barges" were popular back then, and I can't imagine that the people who owned them followed any major legal codes if any even existed-and I find it amazing we survived our childhoods. The areas where we swam and skied were actually rumored to be contaminated with raw sewage. On the positive side, I attribute my super immune system to swimming in that lake-I hardly ever get sick. If you are wondering why in the world we would swim in water like that, the answer is that ALL the nearby lakes were polluted-the other lake nearby was even worse! Unfortunately, we didn't have access to beautiful, crystal clear water, or we certainly would have chosen that! We did, of course, have swimming pools; but you can't ski in a swimming pool.

My sympathies to these families.

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#1.20 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

seems kinda strange that all these kids are getting shocked all of a sudden, first it was the girl who was golfing and the person who tried to save her, now this and all within one month of each other.

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#1.21 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

newsweiner......You are the only idiot I see on this forum.......Why are you posting your garbage on this thread? It has absolutely nothing to do with the story. It is just a wide open opportunity for an idiot to get a little attention....all though it is not the attention you wanted @#$hole

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#1.22 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

Okay, the local media has a more informed story of the Cherokee lake accident:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jul/04/two-dead-in-apparent-cherokee-lake-electrocution/

Oh, and I mistakenly stated in my earlier post that one kid was killed while jumping into the Holsten River. It was at Fort Patrick Henry lake.

http://timesnews.net/article/9048662/rescuers-recover-body-of-cliff-diver-from-fort-patrick-henry-lake

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#1.23 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

wow, lawsuits out of the woodwork on this one.... last i read they were unsure exsactly what caused either accident. the tape over the meter means dont touch it. it also mentioned it could have been when they grabbed a ladder, and it could have as well come from that boat, or even another boat for that matter. unless it was updated, or a better link?

thats cool however. i think if it is found the parents of the kids who were electricuted were the same ones who let their kids go swimming in hazardous waters... just so happend to be the owners of the boat responsible? they should then, most definatly take themselves to court and sue the living @!$%# out of the responsible party, while they are in court for child endagerment and numerous other charges, for being ignorant? can do both cases same day, right after the other.

i hope the cops look to see if there is a big payday life insurance taken out on the kids if this is so as well. who is to say it wasnt meant to look like an accident? at leat in the marina where the 2 boys were swimming.

i mean if we are going to jump to conclusions... why not just take it all the way?

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#1.24 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

Terribly sad story for the families, hopefully the one child will survive.

Newswinner101, I'll leave it at this for you dummy...In your #1.12 post, you prove how "bright" you truly are, as one should NEVER call others "idiot" when they can't even comprehend how to write a sentence.

Go back to your village, idiot.

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#1.25 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

I found it interesting that the adults who jumped into the lake were also shocked. I hope they update the story once the investigation has been done. No sense in laying blame on anyone until all the facts are known.

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#1.26 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

Southern hospitality..

    #1.27 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 12:44 AM EDT

    People will do anything when it is this hot to get away from the heat. Children are very affected by heat, and their survival instinct says to jump in.

    What about fish in marinas? Electricity is nothing to mess with; if it is enough to kill people in the water, it is enough to cause a fire on the dock or boats. Both the boats and docks can do much more to make themselves safe. It isn't the swimmers' faults that the water and all the fish are being shocked. Maybe now we know why there are fish die-offs occasionally.

      #1.28 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 12:58 AM EDT

      Newswinner101 stop it. They can't handle the truth so quit getting them all upset.

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      #1.29 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

      drainbramage wrote: "We used to run into water mains that had electrical currents running through them - seems some of you weekend warriors like to by-pass codes and skip getting permits, and just ground your electricity to copper water pipes rather than buy a grounding rod."

      All metal pipes buried in the ground have some current and ions coming off them and reattaching at a different spot on the pipe. It has nothing to do with whether electrical systems are grounded through ground rods or grounded through the water pipe.

      There's small differences in the surface properties of the pipe and also with the soil around the pipe and this results in differences of potential, or voltages between them . This causes ions, or negatively charged molecules, to flow off the pipe through the soil and back onto an area of the pipe with a positive charge. The area of the pipe that's losing molecules end up pitting and corroding.

      Also, the ground of a electrical system normally has no current flowing through it. Current flows back to the transformer via the neutral wire. The ground only has current through it when there's a short circuit, or ground fault, on the circuit in which case the breaker should open up right away.

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      #1.30 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:18 AM EDT

      my condolences to the families who have lost due to this tragedy. I see that politics founds its way in. why cant they leave these threads alone...........Let the experts find out what happened exactly.....then send the ambulance chasing lawyers home......

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      #1.31 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

      at least his wife got the life insurance, provided he didnt change the beneficiary.

        #1.32 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

        Obviously this is sad, and hard to believe, since we have so many " old (very old) building codes" we have to follow when doing electric (only use electricians retired to do the job, rarely engineeing involved) for inspection-------if this entire electric box had been on groundfault, as we have had for all "consumer" installations in Northern EU since the mid sixties, this would never have happened, Of course we do not even have the entire electric system above ground any more.----but we still loose a couple every year in 150 million, so it is better, but we need to fix this completely here and there as well.

        I was just wondering if Casey Anthony and others has had this problem like here, I never even heard if they cheked her pool for these "loose electrons"?--But of course she was just a poor person, that you could all dish on!

        9 children drown every day in USA!--One famous(well known) right here in Danbury in a pool!

        Then again the US Police shoot and kill 3 people every day (that we know of), so I wonder what really matters in these U S of A!

        ----And we need to get more responsible people to watch our kids while parents are "having fun" the TV is not always where the kids are, especially during long commercials--those trying to "educate" our children.!---they sometimes get destracted and do things parents do not see!

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        #1.33 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

        Bundgard: If you believe that Caylee Anthony actually drowned, I think you should check for "loose screws".

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        #1.34 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

        Why would anybody in their right mind let their kid(s) swim in a marina??? Marinas are where you find stagnant water with incoming and outgoing boats with propellers, spilled gasoline, leaked oil, garbage, human waste, dead animals and whatever else you can find. Marinas are NOT swimming pools!!!!

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        #1.35 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

        Jakester & Roodles; when we called out PUD they traced the current back to one house on the BothellEverett Hwy, what can I tell ya? We worked a four mile section moving meters back for road widening and that was the only spot where the main was charged. It was low voltage, but you still got a nice buzz from it. The water mains that pit are steel, this was new up dated ductile iron where we were. The few areas of our district that did have steel mains were a constant headache, but this is in Washington State, not back East where everything is 100 years old.

        Jakester; all of my interior plumbing is flexible plastic and many homes are PVC - no metal to shock Mr. Happy when you pee.

        Being a weekend warrior my self, I know how easy it is to get one connection wrong, I burned up 3 baseboard heaters before I found the problem, thankfully it was the last connection on that circuit and didn't damage more outlets.

          #1.36 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

          Not restoring any of that garbage political derail, and Newswinner101, you're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor by starting it.

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          #1.37 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

          Roodles - in an urban environment, power flows back through the neutral wire. In a rural area, the power company uses ground return systems - they send the power out, and it flows through the house into the ground. It costs more to generate the power, but it uses less power lines. The neutral and grounds are connected in ground return areas.

          Any malfunctioning appliance can send plenty of voltage to the ground pin on either system, odds are much higher of finding voltage in the ground connections on a ground return system though.

            #1.38 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

            Bundgaard

            STFU!

            If drivel like yours commonly comes out of whichever country you claim to live in, I sure wouldn't be bragging about it.

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            #1.39 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:27 AM EDT

            Unfortunately, the laws can be complicated regarding liability depending on the state you live in.

            Some guy broke into my friends backyard (which was fenced and gated) around 4am, and was bit by my friends dog (who btw was normally calm and friendly, but obviously felt threatened by a strange person breaking in). My friend called the police, and the guy was charged with trespassing, and since he undid the lock on the fence, also with breaking and entering. The story has a sad ending however. A month later, this guy decided to SUE my friend for being bit by his dog. As ridiculous as this sounds, he was ordered to pay for the guy to get rabies shots, or else have to submit his dog for rabies testing (which, for those who don't know, requires killing the dog, or at least it did back then).

              #1.40 - Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:32 AM EDT
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              Sad electricity and water don't mix well, as we found out earlier in a Florida mini golf course pond. Thanks for the story Wayne, stay classy, it was not just a day ruined.

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              Reply#2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

              You cannot electrify a large body of water, it is a ground. Throwing a live wire into a body of water (or a heater into a bathtub) will not charge the water body. Ask any engineer or physicist. Someone in the water grabbing a live wire, however, can be electrocuted. Likewise, someone in water grabbing a charged ladder of a boat that is not in contact with the water could be electrocuted.

              Hollywood does us a disservice by showing people in hot-tubs being electrocuted from devices thrown into the water. However, if you are standing in water and grab a device outside the water with a faulty ground, you may receive a shock. Most domestic water bodies are at ground, being connected by metal pipes. However, the increased use of plastic piping is changing this. even so, a large volme of water acts as a ground even when not connected to the earth.

              • 1 vote
              #2.1 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

              This is an unfortunate situation that could have been avoided had the Marina used proper equipment to test the docks and Marina. The usual cause is a faulty ground on a particular vessel. I have been testing docks, boats and marinas for this exact problem.

              Capt. Bob

              Boat Check marine services

                #2.2 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 12:11 AM EDT
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                Comment author avatarWilliam-360414Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                MSNBC could you please try and find a story about stupid that comes from somewhere in the north. Try Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Wisconsin etc. All of your stories about avoidable insanity are from the south.

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                Reply#3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                William,

                Judging from you comment, you must be from Tierra del Fuego.

                • 11 votes
                #3.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                William-360414
                MSNBC could you please try and find a story about stupid that comes from somewhere in the north. Try Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Wisconsin etc. All of your stories about avoidable insanity are from the south.

                I checked and everyone up here in Minnesota is doing just fine, We follow common sense and so far its been working well for us although I suppose with all this heat anythings possible. These types of accidents happen all over sadly, I really dought it has anything to do with the state one lives in.
                I'll let ya know if something comes up though.

                My condolences to this family that was only trying to enjoy themselves, I so wish the kids could have been saved.

                • 3 votes
                #3.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                Well how about Walker surviving the recall election?

                • 3 votes
                #3.3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:03 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarmnjackExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                thats because southerns are idiots!!!!

                  #3.4 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                  nice, jack...now go back inside...recess is over.

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                  #3.5 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

                  mnjack.....What is a southern? Guess you have to be an idiot to decipher that one.....as written by you.

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                  #3.6 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

                  mnjack---another citizen of Tierra del Fuego!

                    #3.7 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 12:14 AM EDT
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                    Poor family. Tragedy all around.

                    • 18 votes
                    Reply#4 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                    GFCI's are designed for a Purpose. The Problem is most people don't use them.

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                    Reply#5 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                    Not sure a GFCI would have helped at all. I doubt even an AFCI would have worked- not enough arc to trigger that breaker.

                      #5.1 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 2:35 AM EDT
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                      Sad story. It's never a good idea to swim around a marina. Any one of the boats there using shore power could have an electrical problem feeding power into the water. Most Marinas have rules prohibiting swimming at the marina for that reason.

                      • 17 votes
                      Reply#6 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:06 PM EDT
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                      How close do you have to be to a generator to feel it underwater? ie- What is a safe distance?

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                      Reply#7 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                      There is no easy answer to that question, but understanding the nature of electricity gives some guidance. The current flowing between two areas of differing potential (voltage) depends on the conductivity of the medium(water), the potential difference(voltage value) and the distance between the electrodes or points of contact such as a wire or in this case, a metal boat hull. It only takes one-thousandth of an ampere(current measurement unit) to be felt by a person. Fifty thousandths (1/20) of an ampere is enough to cause the heart to fibrillate.

                      The direct path between the electrodes (point of current entry and exit) passes the most current, and as the distance increases away from that direct line there is less current passing through the medium, water in this case. Considering that a swimmer is practically totally immersed in the water and thus the normally dry skin is soaked, the resistance of the body to current flow is very low. That means that a swimmer is hyper-sensitive to shock due to the large body area presented to the current and the very low skin resistance that allows current to flow through the body.

                      The bottom line is that it doesn't take much to shock or electrocute the body once it is immersed in water with a total current flow that approaches the lethal current for muscle contraction or heart disruption.

                      In a mis-configured electrical system on water there is also no guarantee that all the current is restricted to a path to only one opposing electrode. The current may be radiating to several return paths and the current distribution may be complex.

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                      #7.1 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:27 AM EDT

                      What Sir Nikon said.

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                      #7.2 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 2:37 AM EDT

                      Thank you both for your words of wisdom. It sounds as if there are too many variables to determine a safe distance.

                        #7.3 - Mon Jul 9, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
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                        Comment author avatarDan-2160629Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Should have worn a rubber suit.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#8 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

                        I see we always have one in every crowd.

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                        #8.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:37 PM EDT
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                        King ObamaDeleted
                        King ObamaDeleted

                        I know this is an unpalatable idea...but this could also be a very creative form of serial murder.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#11 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                        And if i were Rick Castle, I'd write an episode.....the electricals in pool lights, electrocution at a mini golf course pond, these...Vacation horrors. But the real horror of all of this is that these are families, children are dead or gravely injured. May they overcome their grief and may that child recover unharmed from this.

                        • 11 votes
                        #11.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                        so sad. my condolences to the family of the children.

                        • 6 votes
                        #11.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

                        King Obama banned, comment spammer.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.3 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 2:50 PM EDT
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                        My condolences to the familiies of the children who were lost. Tragic!!

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#12 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

                        Shocking and just horrible... I'll pray for both families! I will also pray for the idiot who wrote this wtory and didn't edit! What kind of sentence is this? "Several adults tried got the children out of the water but attempts to revive them were unsuccessful." REALLY ??

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#13 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                        and what are you reading? your an idiot to even post this comment....i see nothing of the sorts.....read it again, before you say something stupid!

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                        A death by electrocution is "shocking" to you tuffi? Poor choice of words even thoough I'm guessing it was accidental.

                        • 3 votes
                        #13.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                        don't see the problem with the sentence. it communicates that in spite of the risk, the children were removed from the water, (you can't attempt to revive if they're not out) and instead of doing nothing more, cpr was attempted by some responsible citizen who knew cpr and knew it was worth the effort.

                        • 3 votes
                        #13.3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

                        I will also pray for the idiot who wrote this wtory and didn't edit!

                        Tuffi - do you really want to criticize others for not editing when you are clearly too lazy to edit or click on spell-check yourself?

                        • 3 votes
                        #13.4 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:54 AM EDT

                        Tuffi: Try editing your own post.

                          #13.5 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 11:13 AM EDT
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                          So sad when tragedy happens to hit especially when it is supposed to be a day of celebration. My old girlfriend was found dead in an alley on the Fourth of July. And my ex-husband's brother had thrown himself in front of a train on St. Patrick's Day of all things. I completely understand how it must feel to lose your loved ones so unexpectedly. My heart pours out to this family today and I pray these children will now be safe in heaven. Extremely sorry for your loss. May God help to comfort you at this time.

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                          Reply#14 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

                          God Bless you, Valerie. I am praying for the children and familes also. When 2 or more are together praying, He is in the midst of us. He is with us.

                          Phil. 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                          #14.1 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 2:01 AM EDT

                          Valerie as Luke said: god bless you , i use to be a mean person and god changed me , now i got kids and grand kids and worry about them. it seems you been through a lot. god be with you.

                            #14.2 - Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:16 AM EDT
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                            The same accident happened in Traverse City, MI. Swimming at a harbor area where signs post "No Swimming" took the life of a teenage boy. No one was able to grab hold to save him. Sad!! But a no brainer, swim where swimming is allowed.

                            • 7 votes
                            Reply#15 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

                            Its there a possible eels out there? Poor kids and family. I feel so bad for them.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#16 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

                            i don't think them kind of eels would be in the states

                              #16.1 - Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:20 AM EDT
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                              Why is it that no matter what a story is about, someone tries to make it political? ENOUGH Already!

                              • 8 votes
                              Reply#17 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:00 PM EDT
                              Comment author avatarPopeye_KahnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                              So apparently alligators, snapping turtles, water moccasins, brain-devouring flagellates, flesh-eating bacteria, and the risk of contracting infectious hepatitis are not the only hazards in southern US waters.

                              Poor southerners. Their "heritage" is discredited, their environment is a biological pesthole and a weather hazard, their world-view is superseded, their religion is hooey, and now they can't even find a nice place to go swimming on the fourth of July.

                              • 10 votes
                              Reply#18 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                              I didn't know Missouri was a southern state... I know Tennesse was but not Mo. What a silly comment when such a tradgey has occured, regardless of what state it was in.

                              • 7 votes
                              #18.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

                              Popeye, what a moronic waste of protoplasm you are! Learn your geography, get out of the city and do some traveling.

                              The Lake of the Ozarks is surrounded by million dollar homes, not a bunch of noodlers like you've been watching on TV. (Doesn't say muich for your taste in entertainment.) No gators either, in fact, other than the snapping turtles and water moccasins, you're dead wrong.

                              God help the parents of these young people, and help them through the worst days of their lives.

                              • 5 votes
                              #18.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

                              Popeye - What a strange and pointless thing to bring up on such a tragic story. If you're going to leave such negative commentary, you should at least learn the difference between southern and the midwestern states.

                                #18.3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

                                KattleKween,

                                no need to worry about poopeye's there. It's more than obvious that he learned his geography from some incredibly informed source such as "nick at night" or "Mad t.v." And doubtless everything he or should i say it knows about certain regions,cultures,and social dynamics came directly from the movie channel. Here again is yet one more morbidly opinionated,completely ill-informed and incredibly under exposed close in who actually thinks the drool running out of the side of their mouths, poorly disguised as an opinion, bears any more weight than the hollow and hairy thing attached to it's shoulders called a skull. A part of the human anatomy meant to house a brain,yet there is no doubt in my mind that the dry rattle it hears when it gets up from the couch every month or so to find it's mother to feed it ....could barley be compared to a pea.

                                • 1 vote
                                #18.4 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                                And Popeye, we still have you brilliant yankees from Detroit , Cleveland, Chicago, etc., spending your vacation money here in East Tennessee. If we are so terrible, then you must be the dumbest mortals known to man, for coming here. Our mountains are full of your foul mouthed hordes right now.

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.5 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                                Popeye, our East Tennessee mountains are full of yankees spending their vacation money in the mountains. If our environment is as you say, then your fellow yankees have to be the dumbest mortals known to man for coming here. I have lived in Germany, Kansas, Texas, Chicago, and Houston, none compare to the quality of life here for me, and the thousands of immigrants from the north populating our area.

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.6 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

                                Popeye,I would have called you an idiot but would be giving you credit for having some working brain cells ,which you don't! From where are you,genius?

                                • 1 vote
                                #18.7 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

                                Poor Popeye...cancelled your Dungeons and Dragons game again?

                                • 1 vote
                                #18.8 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

                                On behalf of all southerners, and it's clear you have never met one nor ever set foot in the south by your hollywood ignorant attitude, all I can say is "Go @!$%# Yourself!" At least that way you can finally get a date.

                                • 1 vote
                                #18.9 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

                                Too many of you responding to Poopeye and trying to understand his dysfunction.

                                Richard - you come close. Me?

                                Poopeye: Descend in flames, turd!!!!

                                  #18.10 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:34 AM EDT
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                                  This is so sad. The children just having fun playing in the water and get killed. I am just at a loss for words.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

                                  Or maybe someone released Electric eels into the water.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#20 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

                                  Caused by fracking. Under earth plate disturbances can cause electrical discharges, easily conducted through large bodies of water.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #20.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

                                  And you know this... how?

                                    #20.2 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 2:40 AM EDT

                                    "Possibly caused by fracking" would be a much better sentence, especially if you're not going to post a link or explain how fracking causes water to be electrified.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #20.3 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                                    Maybe it just a fracking lie!

                                      #20.4 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:50 PM EDT
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                                      Comment author avatarwill-3792406Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                      Long live Obama, I love you obama. Dont swim in marinas duh!!!

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                                      Reply#21 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

                                      Improper electrical grounding in swimming pools is the most common cause of this. AND IT CAN BE PREVENTED! Some states now require electrical ground testing of all swimming pools. Most states don't (yet). The test quickly shows what metal parts within and around the pool are improperly grounded. They can then be properly grounded to prevent any such catastrophes. And the electrical contractor can leave a certificate clearly showing that the swimming pool meets the electrical code. The test usually runs @100-300 dollars, depending on the size of the pool area. A small price to pay for safety. Literally hundreds of people have lost their lives (usually children) by touching ungrounded metal parts around the pool area, and standing with their bare feet in a puddle of water.. Pumps, motors, pipes, handrails, metal polls, fences (anything metal) are all suspect (until they are checked).. That's why it's so important for pools to be tested for improper electrical grounds..

                                      • 8 votes
                                      Reply#22 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:20 PM EDT
                                      Comment author avatarElle333Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                      They were in a lake, not a swimming pool you nitwit.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #22.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                                      Improper grounding is not limited to swimming pools.. Just that it's more common for them to be improperly electrically grounded.. In the case of a lake, it could have just as easily been a light pole next to the lake, a pump/motor or another piece of electrical equipment that was close by to where they were in the water.. I am sorry to say that whatever it was, it could have been prevented..

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #22.2 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                                      So I think you are offering a premise that people should keep their houseboat in a well grounded swimming pool. By the way, all states and all local building departments require proper grounding of all pool equipment and lighting in and around a swimming pool. However, taking you up on your offer of $100 to $300 to verify proper grounding of pool equipment and lighting, does your insurance company then assume all responsibility going forward? I would believe that the Marina Operator had posted "No Swimming Signs" in the Marina Area, and the signs might have included the caution associated with stray electrical currents in and around house boats. While we do not read about it that often, this type of accident can occur if electrical wiring in marinas is not periodically inspected, and house boats attached to electrical hookups are not properly grounded.

                                        #22.3 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                                        They were in a lake, not a swimming pool you nitwit.

                                        Elle333, you didn't need the last two words. You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                                        Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #22.4 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 2:52 PM EDT
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                                        I live in East Tennessee near where this accident happened. We are all deeply saddened by this tragedy and praying for these families. As a parent I cannot imagine their grief.

                                        Popeye_Kahn .....You are proof that evil is alive and well. Where did your parents go wrong? May God have mercy on your soul.....

                                        • 9 votes
                                        Reply#23 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                                        Kim, I am so sorry to hear of this devasting loss! Unfortunately the only way to hurt anyone is through their pocketbook, and allow other kids to be saved from such a tragedy. I also wanted to extend an ear as I am a legal assistant and would like to offer any assistance the family may need with questions or anything. Please give them my information to contact me. Prayers!!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #23.1 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 10:07 AM EDT
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                                        i agree Kim. some people just do not have comman sense and the best part of them ran down thier daddys leg.....i have 3 children and a grandson. i could not imagine losing one, let alone two.....God ease their pain somehow, and bless these children, all three of them. also send a speedy recovery to the one child surviving, may they heal quickly and fully!

                                        • 8 votes
                                        Reply#24 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

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                                        Reply#25 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                                        I can't believe the amount of inbred idiots making rude, ignorant comments on the death of three children!!!!! My heart goes out to the families of all the children.

                                        • 7 votes
                                        Reply#26 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                                        i cant agree with you more GG. when kids are killed like this or any other way , we got crazy peeps who don't care to say some thing stupid about them or deaths , really sad.

                                          #26.1 - Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:58 AM EDT
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                                          This needs to be investigated thoroughly....coincidence? What about the 13 yr. old who was miniture golfing and was electrocuted while retrieving her golfing ball last week.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#27 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                          Same problem.. "Improperly grounded"... It doesn't just have to be a swimming pool.. It could be a miniature golfing course, having say "high-discharge"/HID lamps lighting the place up.. Or another electrical source? One of the high discharge lights may have been not grounded correctly? The hole may have been wet from a recent rainstorm and been the conductor? Public Facilities all need to be checked. Especially those outside in the weather. A good electrician who knows how to check for improper grounding can quickly spot out the potential problem/s and safely resolve them all to prevent any catastrophic outcomes.

                                            #27.1 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
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