NBC's John Yang reports on the extreme weather in the Midwest and East Coast.
The heat suffocating the Midwest is expanding east, forecasters said Thursday, as signs of the hot, muggy weather -- buckled roads -- have literally started to pop up.
"Record breaking heat across the Midwest is expected to spread into the eastern U.S. by the weekend," the National Weather Service warned -- bad news for the 600,000 homes and businesses still without power from Ohio to Virginia after last weekend's storms.
On top of that, storms overnight caused power outages to 250,000 homes and businesses in Michigan.
In Chicago, temps reached 103 degrees on Thursday before a sudden storm cooled the city with a downpour.
Atlanta reached 100 -- the third time so far this year.
More normal temperatures should return next week when the extreme heat is forecast to move west, bringing triple-digit temperatures to parts of Idaho, Utah, Washington and Oregon.
The storms were sandwiched between intense heat over the last two weeks. From Fargo, N.D., to Chicago and Cary, N.C., roads have heated up, drawing moisture underneath to the surface and then creating what's called a "heave."
In Wisconsin, the driver of an SUV didn't see a heave on Highway 29 near Eau Claire and went airborne, WISN-TV reported Tuesday. After getting several feet of air, the car sped out of control into oncoming traffic, and then plowed into a field.
Video camera captures a car leaping over a heat-buckled road near Eau Claire, Wisconsin. NO AUDIO
The driver and passenger were not seriously hurt.
Areas where roads buckled on July 4th included Chicago, where Columbus Drive was shut down, and Pennsylvania's Lancaster County, where crews deployed in the heat after a heave forced the closure of Route 222.
"I'd rather be at home, drinking my beer, eating a burger," state transportation worker Kevin Palumbo told NBC affiliate WGAL-TV. "We just try to get it done and get it over with."
But he was also aware of the danger of buckled roads. "It's a hazard," he said. "You don't want to hit that on your motorcycle at 80 miles an hour."

Travis Long / The News & Observer via AP
Workers wait for asphalt to arrive after removing a section of westbound I-440 that buckled in triple-digit temperatures on June 29 near Cary, N.C.
Buckled roads were just some of the frustrations still facing millions on Thursday.
In Chicago, soaring temperatures forced 17 public schools without air conditioning to cancel summer classes on Thursday, NBCChicago.com reported. Additional closures are possible in the days to come.
The Mid-Atlantic region was also struggling to get back to normal after the deadly storms.
Utility and municipal crews worked through the July 4th holiday to restore power and remove downed tree limbs. Officials blamed the storms for 26 deaths.
More than 2 million customers at one point lost power from the storms that converged on Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Washington, D.C., Indiana, Ohio and New Jersey on Friday. They packed winds topping 80 mph in some places, uprooting trees and damaging homes.
Much of the damage to the power grid was blamed on last weekend's rare "derecho," a big, powerful and long-lasting wind storm that blew from the Midwest to the Atlantic Ocean.
Thunderstorms add boom to East Coast's Fourth of July
Pepco said it had restored power to 90 percent of those affected by last week's storms in D.C. and two Maryland suburbs, beating its own estimate for getting the air conditioning back on. BGE said about 78,000 customers in central Maryland remained without power.
More than 146,000 Virginia homes and businesses remained without power, down from a peak of about 1.2 million after the storms.
In New Jersey, Atlantic City Electric said nearly 30,000 homes and businesses were still without service. That's down from about 206,000.
Workers in Anchorage, Alaska, are still working to clear snow from last winter's record snowfall. KTUU's Ted Land reports.
While the number without power was diminishing Thursday utilities were not moving quickly enough for many of those still in the sweltering dark.
Many expressed frustration with handwritten messages hung from utility poles resembling "Wanted" posters, The Washington Post reported.
Along Route 29 in Silver Spring, Maryland, on Wednesday, a woman hammered a series of signs into non-functioning utility pole reading: "5 Days No Lite."
"Pepco: very warm humans feeling forgotten," read another sign, according to the paper.
Maryland issued a heat advisory for the entire state for Thursday, after issuing one for parts of the state for Wednesday.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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As a lineman it is frustrating to see and hear comments from customers stating their frustration and sometimes even threats about their power being out. Everyone needs to remember that linemen travel from all over the country and even Canada to come to your home and risk their lives working with high voltage electric to turn your lights on! You should be thankful that you survived the storm and do what you can to help keep these dedicated workers hydrated while they work ungodly hours in the sweltering heat to HELP YOU! Mother nature nature is more powerful than any of us, and we just have to rebuild what she destroys.
Lineman, you are correct. Mother nature is unpredictable, so people need to be prepared for power outages, like having generators to run fans and refrigerators and an alternate means of cooking. We learned a huge lesson in NC after Hurricane Fran hit in 1996. We are prepared for extensive power outages at my house.
Trouble is people live in a "NOW" era. They want it all NOW! Forget about humanity and how much work it takes to repair the damage done.
Lineman....I agree with you 100% my boyfriend is a controller for Consumers Energy in Michigan...he is called in for ungodly hours all year long and they bust their a$$es to get things on as fast as they can for folks...they do not drag their feet...Good job to you and your crew ...thanks for all you do!
If we buried power lines, trees would not knock them down. It costs more, but when you add up putting them back up, it is probably a bargain.
I thank you, Lineman. It's too bad that most of us Americans are self-centered, expletive, expletive, expletive, expletive, expletive, fools. Just about everywhere I go, I see how ignorantly people treat employees of businesses. They want people fawning all over them and demand perfection, served to them on a silver platter, at aluminum prices.
Having gone through this same experience with Hurricane Ike I want to say a big THANK YOU to you and all the other linemen who come from all over to help in these situations. Unfortunately, most Americans are too selfish to think about anyone but themselves.
Dear Lineman THANKYOU!!!
I live in a Chicago suburb and have not had power due to the storm that hit Sunday @ noon. I have not had power since then. I see how hard the Com Ed (and hundreds of other crews that came in to assist) and appreciate the extremely hard work they are putting in to get power restored! The trees needed to be removed off the lines first.. then the surveying (which is being done) and then the repairs. THANK YOU for helping us in the extreme conditions you all work in so we can be comfortable once again.
Thank you for your hard work in the lousiest of conditions. I have a cousin with a similar job, so I know the long, crazy hours he puts in.
SJC: I'm not an expert on anything technical. However, our digital cable is buried underground, and it goes out ALL the time! I'm sure things like earthquakes, critters, wildfires, etc. would interfere with underground lines as well.
Good on ya son for doing the good work. My prayers go out to you, your brothers, and your sisters out there in this heat. Thank you for the hard work you guys are doing.
SJC you got a point. In some places yes you could put the power underground. Depending on soil conditions, water levels, and what not. It would seriously take a lot of planning. The only thing you would have to worry about is all the other stuff running under there. The lines cant be within a certain distance of things like gas oil and so on. It gives off static charges. Of course, most if not all, telephone lines are buried now. Where as they do not carry the same current on the actual electricity ones do. They still have a charge as well.
Lineman thanks for all of your hard work. You have pointed out the problem though. Power Corps. no longer have crews at all locations, like they used to, due to cost savings. One of the reasons it takes so long to get the power back on is that the crews have to come from all over the country. When we have a wide spread storm like we just had there are just not enough people to fix them quickly. Today when our power gos out life stops. Our lives are run on the internet and I am not talking about FB or youtube. My banking my Dr. app. my Rx refills are all on line and with out power there is no cellphone connection. I don't even have a check book or a land line any more. Lets not even talk about all the disabled people in my complex, they have severe mobility problems and when the elevator is down they are trapped on all floors except the ground floor.
Raleighdolly -
I was without power for 17 days when Fran blew through (lived out off 1010 highway). I keep 5 gallons of water, non-perishable food, propane stove handy now year round.
The electric crews were great! I flagged down a truck that was from Georgia on day three. They picked up the live 220 line that was in my driveway and coiled it up on the service pole, asked if I needed anything else.
its not like you were drafted to do this work. you get paid pretty well for having zero education. quit complaining and just fix the f*cking power lines. oh and if youre thirsty brings some water with you einstein.
Yea, everyone thinks they should be the first to be taken care of. It makes me sick how people cuss the utility services because they are without power, If they all had to go out and repair their own lines, they would not complain anymore. these people working on your utility lines are very hard working people and they are doing their best. some of them work 16 hour shifts, while you sit around doing nothing. So, you can't watch tv or get on the internet, get over it. God forbid you have to send your kids outside to play. And how many of you ever had to do any manual labor in your lives, probably 50% of you if even that.
Uncle Henry, you are an A$$. You probably never even had to do any work outside of your air conditioned office doing a woman's job because you can't hack manual labor. The world does not center around your little gay lifestyle, so get over it!!!!!!!! Let's see you work out in this heat serving little pu$$ies like you.
Global Warming is a myth. So is beef jerky.
Uncle Henry
What's your problem? Did the local utility turn down your job application so you need to stay on the public dole?
LOL...Uncle Yank, er...Hank is pissed because he has to wait his turn to use the electrical outlets available at the Westfield Mall.
Hang tough Lineman, most of us appreciate your hard work.
Utility cables should have been put underground decades ago....But as usual, the dividends to their stock holders means more than modernization....The morons still haven't figured how much more this is costing them in the long run.
Welcome to American capitalism.
A woman's job? There are more than a few brave female firefighters in Colorado who could probably kick your ass right this minute, rag, even after working on the fire lines for 30 hours.
Uncle Henry...........a few things. If you were as "educated" as you would like us all to beleive, you would know that we go through 4-5 years of a trade school. Which is fully accredited by the National Board of labor. Along with your amazingly high level of education, it sounds like you want us all to beleive you have HUGE ba**s too! Walk outside with those big ones and tell the next crew that drives by your house what you told me...........thought so, chicken sh!t. Ever thought, maybe they are not turning my lights on because I am a douchebag!
Yeah Uncle Henry you're a real character. It takes a lot of education in order to work with high tension power lines. If it didn't there would be dead linemen all over the country. If you're such an educated expert, drag your lazy ass out and go fix the lines. You seem to be egotistical enough to think you can do a better job. Go on, get your butt out of the confines of your air conditioning and go hang from a bucket 30 feet in the air in 100 plus temperatures.
Here's a grand idea! Learn to use a chainsaw and lend a hand. Novel idea, huh? We had tornados last year in my home town and I wasn't the one in the neighborhood complaining my lights were out, I helped my neighbors!
furthermore........hank, the angry drunken dwarf...........you're right we don't get drafted, we VOLLUNTEER to come out there and help your sorry azz! And we do it for the old folks, and the children, and the disabled, and the single moms, and the sick, and for the 1 out of ten decent people we see out there that stop us and say thanks. Thats all man.......nothing more, and nothing less.......we enjoy helping people when we can. You should try it sometime.......kinda makes you feel good.
Uncle Henry came on a bit too strong. However, I am tired of people trying to glorify every single job on the planet as being "heroes" work. It's their job to fix the lines, the same way it's a plumbers job to fix the pipes. These are good honest decent paying jobs that 85% of the world's population would beg and kill for. Complaining about the heat or the long hours of the job does not make me respect you as much as if you just did your job to the best of your ability and then went home to your family and stopped looking for "attaboys". I spent 2 years out of the past 8 in Iraq and I can promise you that it was just as hot and definitely longer hours and a thousand times more dangerous. The difference was at the end of the day I didn't get to go home to my family. Your job is not that bad. Appreciate it and stop trying to glorify it. It's hard and sucks some times but so do most jobs, just in different ways.
People really need to be careful where they plant trees. I see far too many trees planted right under power lines. What were those people thinking? That 6 foot tall maple you plant today will be 85 foot tall someday. Utility companies in many cases cannot remove trees that danger the lines only trim them by law. Most of the time that really doesn't solve the problem. Read the tag at the nursery. All tree have them. If no tag ask. Burying lines is not a cure all but would go aong way towards helping. In my town most lines are burried but my power goes out 12 or more times a year for at least 1 hour.
I waited 3 days for my power to turn back after the storm hit us in Northern Virginia late Friday night, but made the best of it without complaining. While Dominion Power moved their resources to critical installations (i.e. hospitals, police departments, etc) we were professionally serviced by PIKE, a company based in NC who worked non-stop to rebuild our power lines.
Thank you Lineman33 and all those out there who put their lives at risk to restore our power despite the heat and humidity!
Theres a problem with the "buck up and deal with it mentality" coming from Lineman. This society is now wholely reliant upon electricity. Removing it from our lives is like taking away water. Think about it. We dont grow our food in our backyards, it stays in the fridge. We dont cook over fires, we use ovens/microwaves. We dont have houses designed like in the 1800's with high roofs and are positioned according to the sun, we have the opposite. Most of our jobs are digital, Im an accountant and we're nearly "paper free." We pay most of our bills online. We're used to the internet for entertainment and communication, case and point were on here. So when the power goes out during a heat wave for more than a week, its quite the culture shock on those of us who have grown up knowing only life with electricity. Something to consider before you tell us how lucky we are to have linemen.
Lineman - I agree with everything you posted and thank you for working so hard to recover power as quickly as possible to those of us without it. Storms came through my area of Michigan before daybreak this morning and knocked out power to quite a few of us. It was 8 hours before my power was restored, but it was a small price to pay to finally get some rain. BTW, underground utilities will not solve the problem unless the entire system is underground. Power lines, telephone service and cable are underground in my neighborhood, but that does us absolutely no good when a tree falls on lines somewhere up the line that bring power to my neighborhood.
What do the idiots who are complaining about lack of power think that we used to do before most homes were air conditioned? There was a woman on the national news a couple of night ago who was complaining about the temperature on her second floor reaching 89 degrees. Really? 89 degrees? Is that truly a hardship? Give it a break and be thankful that your home wasn't destroyed.
You're right Travis, thank you, and God Bless You for your service!! But if you read the thread, nobody was ever looking for accolades.........I was just saying that hearing the negativity, and criticism all the time sucks. Keep your comments to yourself and let us do our job.
ABC homes before A/C were constructed in a manner that allowed them to stay cool in the heat of the day. Do some research before calling people idiots. New home designs turn the house into an oven if there is no power.
southern boy.........its not a "buck up and deal with it mentality". It's a " Im here to restore the power, so why does that make you think you can use me as a punching bag " mentality. We are trying to do our jobs, and help in the process. I never said you have to like the situation, just dont cuss, and threaten me while I'm working. I promise you......those kinds of actions will guarantee that yours are the last lights that come back on.
People who are frustrated are going to take it out on the front liners, i.e. you. Just like when you're pissed off at your health insurance premium hike and call Big Insurance and yell at the first person that answers. My brother works for an insurance company, he gets yelled at for a living due to the decisions of those much higher up the line than him. Get the picture?
rag. sr. "A woman's job?!?" What freaking era do you come from? Work is work. There are women who are linemen. And I've had to hump a rucksack in all the same weather as male soldiers during my time. Male or female, it doesn't matter what your gender. You do the work you need to do and the work you can get. My neice is a plasterer and I have a nephew who is a nurse. You might want to joing the 21st century.
I do, but you don't see that all over the national newspapers. Saying how its should be done faster and better and everything else do you!?
and so just because "that's the way it is" it makes it ok. Isn't that mentality a big part of the reason our society is in the shape it's in today?
Lineman, people do have a right to be upset - the fault isn't yours, but it is certainly your employer's. I am sorry you get it both ways; you get over-worked, and then you get it from people who are upset. And of course, morons telling you to buck up and be grateful doesn't help either.
In general, the problem is that we have a crumbling infrastructure, and it is going to get increasingly difficult to keep patching it. In addition, we are also going to get even more extreme weather conditions as global warming continues to get worse.
Lineman thanks for all of your hard work. You have pointed out the problem though. Power Corps. no longer have crews at all locations, like they used to, due to cost savings.Li
Lineman - imagine if we lived in a world that wasnt ran by profits, but rather, by necessity?
you wouldnt have to work 16 hrs a day, because there'd be 3x as many people doing what you do...
of course, you'd get paid less...and you couldnt bellyache about "doing your best"...and no one would be cussing you out because you'd be able to get everyone up and running in a day.
but, thats not the world we live in...your boss has shareholders to care about, so the customers and the workers get shortchanged.
gotta love capitalism, right?
money isnt real, it's a tool...and we are all being used.
@thatguydownsouth
That's the truth. I remember the old houses fondly. My aunt lived on a farm, and the house was very high and surrounded by large shade trees. All summer long, we just opened all the windows and were treated to a cool fresh breeze. Didn't have AC, didn't need AC, didn't want AC. On particularly hot days, we used a window fan pointing out to circulate the air. It felt so much better than AC.
But modern houses are built in the open, with no shade trees, and have 20 inches of insulation blown into the spaces. They cannot "breathe". That's why it's so bad when the electricity goes out.
They are always talking about how the Power grid is going to fail. On the east coast and in the Mideast. Maybe just maybe if we all complained to CONGRESS. They could get an infrastructure bill signed. So we could get out of the industrial age GRID. And into a system that is more modern. And create some more work. For the out of work Americans out East and in the Midwest.
Oh wait the Republicans think Corporate America gives a Rats A$$. They wont sign it. Guess GAS run generators are going to get sold for even more now. Better buy some Coleman stock or Honda.
Linemen, and others in the infrastructure community, really are the unsung heroes in our midst.
They do a very dangerous job, in terrible conditions, for hours if not days on end, and every deadline is yesterday.
No one thanks them for the millions of times that you flip a switch and power is there, but everyone seems content to throw them under the bus for not being stronger, smarter, and faster than the worst that Mother Nature has to offer.
If you can't live without electricity for a few days, then you need to get your @!$%# together. Period. People did it for millions of years- you can do it for a week.
And if you see a utility truck near your house, don't ask them "When?", just offer them a cold drink and a "Thank you".
It's summer-time ferchristsake, you've already got 14 hours of natural lighting, how much more do you really need?
They are working as fast as they can to restore power. Give them a break and just live with it. It's not their fault this happened.
Privatization of our utilities were a big mistake.....corporations put off rebuilding and updating the grid system. People in this country sit back and don't complain when private industry screws things up. We were much better when our utilities were under government control.
We got sold a bill of goods when utilities went private...Oh we heard the age old mantra "costs will go down" well they did for 6 months and then they skyrocketed....Goes to show you in many cases gov't can do a better job!
Oh puh leeze. If govt does it better then why are all the local municipalities buckling under their own pension plans?
flag waver
I don't know where you live, but as long as I've been alive utilities have been private enterprises. Granted, there are some places where there are still "municipal" utility companies, but they are very few and far between. And where those utilities have been sold to private companies, it was done as the "municipalities" could no longer afford the maintenance and expansion necessary.
If you're talking about regulation, that's another topic, but that's not what I understood from your post.
thatguydownsouth Name one company that CAN currently Build the Hoover Dam on its own. Without some form of Government help. Name one water Quality Company that CAN provide a City with CLEAN water. Without some Government Help. Private companies that are profit driven. Providing PUBLIC WORKS is disaster in itself.
True. It's not their fault the storms hit.
According to Pat Robertson, natural disasters like this are always the fault of either gays who want to get married, or women who get abortions.
lol
JKiff - You forgot pagans.
Kudos, flagwaver. I was wondering when someone would bring up privatization. I wouldn't go as far as saying government control is the answer, but some regulation is needed. In the new health care law, 80% of premiums must be directed to pay claims. This keeps CEO's from skimming all the cream while frivolously denying patient claims. In the case of utilities, companies should be required to divert some percentage of collections to capital/infrastructure improvements. Remember, the natural gas explosion in CA. It was caused by the same sh!t: crumbling infrastructure. Private companies are pressured to elevate short-term profits, often at the expense of infrastructure improvements, which are admittedly expensive. Flagwaver is correct, there is no evidence that privatization lowers anybody's prices in the long run. We hear this story over and over from the GNOP, and it rarely pans out. Anytime you pay multi-millions to a CEO, and 10-20% to shareholders, these costs ultimately get passed on to consumers. This is good for things we can choose whether or not to buy, but for things we MUST have like healthcare and utilities, it is problematic. The "free market" is not free when the consumer has no choice.
All the Politicians told us Global Warming was a farce. I Believe it was Al Gore who was pointing it out years back, but bash him they did. Fake Scientists, phoney emails all telling us nothing was wrong. Its perfectly normal for all the ice caps to be melting. Now we have weather that is reaching catastrophic levels. Is this just a fluke?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/07/want_to_know_what_global_warmi.html
dude get over this idea!! if you look at historical data, it was just this HOT back in 1912. (at least up here in northern Indiana)Funny how more and more people forget to look into history to see what happens that will indeed happen again.
even better than that, gore invented the internet so you could whine about global warming!
@ Rod and Cmon- The climate is changing and this is only the beginning. You watch garbage on FOX and fall for that scam by the fossil fuel industry for twenty years and you become, finally, Willfully Ignorant. The USAF and the Navy are tuned in and you two are tuned out......Do your cars obey the laws of science and physics or is it VOO DOO? You are such a part of the problem it isn't funny......
km2520: The climate is changing and this is only the beginning=Really. WOW last time I checked the Climate has always changed sometimes fast and sometimes slow. The world has been a hot box and the Earth has also been a snow ball. All before man ever existed, Climate changes all the time. Some are short cycles and some are very long cycles.
KM the Earth climate is never constant, its always changing. You can keep believing that man is causing this, but if you look at the data, history and what is happening today you will find that the DATA just does not add up.
LOL Banker...
~12,000 years ago the great lakes were formed by an ice sheet a mile thick that covered
much of that area.
And the scientist who studied it, are pretty darned sure that in about another 12,000 years, the ice will be back.
So, do us a favor and how about dropping the crack-pipe and set aside the adult bevs, until Happy
Hour, at least.
Hahaha! Amateur scientist (Algore…and the like) make me giggle…
just like the movie these yahoos will argue even after the day after tomorrow.
Lorax-you got that right especially the yahoos part
Some people just need to believe the world is burning.
I heard that scientists are claiming the sky is falling...
It wasn't. From http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120618152733.htm :-
In any case, whatever the temperatures were then, the simple fact is that our current infrastructure is not capable of dealing with the increasing temperatures today.
This might come as a shock to some, but the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and The Skeptics Society believe that Global Warming is real and it is man made. Think about that for a moment. Skeptics, who make a point of not believing anything you tell them (especially if it sounds fantastic and outlandish like Global Warming) unless they put it through a battery of tests and do everything they can to disprove it first, believe that Global Warming is real and it is man made. For those of you who actually click on links to fact check what a person says let me give you a link to the article on their site:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/12-02-08/
You may have to scroll down a bit to get to the article.
For those of you who don't click links, here is an exerpt:
It may be global warming, but it is NOT caused by mankind.
Furthermore, many people live in an insular world...just because it is hot where YOU are, doesn't mean it isn't unseasonably cool in another part of the world...
And what makes you think it's NOT caused by human activity, when there's a large body of evidence that shows it is? Other possible causes such as solar variation are insufficient to explain global temperature increases since the 1970s.
Whether climate change exists, or doesn't, and if it does is anthropogenic, doesn't mean bupkus at the end of the day because the only 'solutions' will either rely on everybody voluntarily giving up a substantial portion of their lifestyle or having a powerful government entity force them to do so. Neither is preferable; neither will happen without the end of freedom.
If severe climate change *is* in the forecast (pun intended), we'll do what all of the other animals will do in the face of it: adapt, or die.
Hey Northeast welcome to the midwest. We deal with this all the time!! Maybe just maybe people need to give the power crews a break, take them some drinks make them your friends as they come from all over to help your ungrateful butts. Another idea is to go get a generator, besides they help in this situation but they will help the next time too.
Help comes to those who help themselves, therefore help the crews out, take them a cool drink, do what you can to make them want to give the 200% they give us here in the midwest.
I forgot to add...............God Bless all the linemen working to restore the power.......Work SAFE, so you can go home and see your families.............my prayers are with you all!
My first thought whenever we lose power is to eat up all that ice cream in the freezer so it doesn't go to waste.
It does kinda make power outages something to look foreward to........
Ha! Made me giggle. Thanks!!
I cannot imagine what these people are going through. We had smoke all along the front range yesterday from the fires and we were bitching. But we also had air conditioning in our house thank goodness. I feel so bad for these folks in the horrible temps they are experiencing with no relief. And loosing everything in the freezers and refrigerators. Costs money to replace it all and hopefully they have it.
Where the heck is Obama on this and his FEMA response team????
He must hate all the white people without power. Maybe he's a Racist!!
fox news overdose.
FEMA has 11 disaster declarations all over the US right now. Fires, tropical storm, storms, heat... they are doing the best they can. My Dad works for FEMA - he ALSO is on day 7 without power at his own house in VA. Chill the hell out. They are human, they are doing the best they can. FEMA has revamped the entire way they operate since the Katrina disaster. They are swamped with disasters right now, how do you choose which ones are more urgent than others? People need help everywhere.
Turn off the Limbaugh, back away from the FOX-news-24-hour-fear-machine and have a glass of wine... the withdraw will only last a few days I promise.
obama was just in colorado, so one photo op at a time.
who names their kid after an electronics study kit anyway?
It doesn't take long for the aholes to come out of the woodwork.
Maybe if they cut our over-bloated defense budget, and put the money in what this country really needs, responses would be faster. You want smaller government, pay less taxes, but when something like this happens, and responses are slow, because resources are too thin, you bash it for not doing enough. Maybe if you did more to get the money hoarders to stop hiding money, and stop stealing the hard earned money that their employees EARNED, and demand they pay Regan Era taxes, stuff like this would be resolved much more quickly.
Great rant, but you do know that utility workers are not government workers, right?
HEATH - what party has denied denounced and actually campaigned against the fact our worlds climate is changing rapidly .... in a manner that will be harmful and affect our lives - who the good old GOP - well a job well done to protect their rich friends - now we fry and die - if anything could have been done to stop it - they made sure we didnt - - thx - ........... what a bunch of evil crooks
Was that really necessary? You're probably one of the conservatives who kvetches about the over reach of government until you need them. It's the typcial conservative response. I remember Bush watching Katrina for a good long time before taking any action at all and it was only because there was an outcry heaven forbit the conservatives should allow the spending of money to help people in need eh?
If the conservatives were willing to pony up some of our tax money to employ people to fix our infrastructure every summer and winter in the U.S. wouldn't seem so much like the same seasons in a third world country.
You take shots at Obama but you forget who is in "control" of congress it's those bloody do nothing Tea Partiers and Republicans, sitting on their haunches howling at the moon and let's not forget they're in constant campaign mode, they want your votes they just don't want to do anything beneficial in return.
Cmon, so Obama goes to a diaster it's just a photo op. If he doesn't go it's a war crime committed by a Muslim racist foreigner? Give it a break will you!
No utility is large enough to repair and replace damage as widespread as this. Repair crews have to first clear the area of debris and in many cases totally rebuild the distribution system. There are inventory limitations which require importing of poles, insulators, transmission line, transformers, service entrance line, and personnel and equipment from non-effected areas. Its a massive operation and it never moves fast enough, especially for the people on the end of the work order priority. I have been involved in such a situation only once following a massive ice storm. The workers often put in 16-to-18 hour days trying to restore service. While the victims have my sympathy, the workers have my profound respect for the are doing all they can as fast as they can. I have no respect for the opportunistic politicians who are criticizing the speed of totally restoring service.
Today is Day 6 for us with no power. I completely respect the difficult job the lineman do and we always offer water, drinks and snacks to them.
We live in downtown Richmond. My beef is that the power company restored the power to about 98% of the neighborhood and left without finishing the job. So the remaining 29 houses in our neighborhood are now a low priority. We don't have lines down that I can find. It is just off.
In our local paper, there was a story about an out of state crew that went to VA, was sent to OH, then to WVA and back to VA. It would appear most of their time was spent driving up and down the highway. That's a poor use of resources.
And Obama claims the Federal Government can handle healthcare for all--just like Medicare and the Post Office!
Man is rachel - 3673200 and idiot or what! Medicare is one of the best health systems in the world. And if you want the Post Office to work right - How about increasing the stamp to what it should be, about $3.00 a stamp. If that happens you'll be complaining that it's a tax increase. How about going to the post office and pick up your own mail. No more door to door service.
Raise it $3.00 postage? They will just figure how to piss that away to.
well ... a little known fact .... the post office is run so that it is self sustaining .... but congress can raid its kitty any time ... and does regularly to pay for other things ... that is why it is on the ropes now ...
This is Day 5 for my family in Chicago burbs with no power. Its +100 again. The best survival item in our neighborhood, is called a generator.
If you have tress and powerlines, it is a must own item. Not sure why everyone is not on board with this concept.
Lorax-the same thing went on for years with Social Security but it wasn't congress. The Reagan admin started it, and that is all GOP knows how to due is raid from other agencies so they don't offend the wealthly. Now their the ones complaining about how insolvent Social Security is. They only know how to make a mess of things, but not how to fix them.
Linemen are not the problem........the utility PEPCO is the absolute worst utility company in America. I lived there for several years and we would lose power on sunny blue sky days for no reason other than old equipment and a fuse blew at the substation.
Crisis...I used to feel that way until I lived with a power worker....those sunny blue sky days...they have turned out to be a farmer hitting a line....some things we can't even understand or know until you work where they do.
Crisis4 is right, though. Pepco was threatened to lose their license last year. Not just regular outages, but horrid restoration times.
I live very few miles away in northern virginia. NOVEC does a great job.
I have PEPCO, and I don't experience these problems. You have to take into consideration that some areas have strict mandates that don't allow tree trimming and removal and also the age of the lines and equipment, etc., etc. I would assume that an older community probably has more outages than communities that are only a few years old and have newer lines and equipment.
In my neighborhood, we're starting to see a lot of water mains bursting because the mains are just getting old. I doubt this happens in new neighborhoods.
Just my two cents, and maybe I'm wrong. *shrug*
BGE you just graduated with honors: incompetent, inefficient and lack of a detail organize emergency plan. We have been without power SINCE LAST FRIDAY!!!BC /MD BGE power supplier and the county's authorities are just incompetent to say the least. We need to hold them accountable for the lack of preparedness. We pay to receive a service, five days without power is too much....we can not stop mother nature's wrath but, we can be prepare and ready to mitigate any natural disaster. Do not be surprise if your electric bill is the same as last month, I just hope that this is not the case, because if it is, we are going to court.
The linemen and linewomen as well as other workers struggling to restore the power need to be commended. They are working under extreme heat and stressful conditions. Instead of complaining people should be thankful.Those people who are lucky enough to have basements can put sleeping mats down there and at least be able to sleep more comfortably. If you try to sleep in a bedroom on the second or third floor the temperatures are unbearable.
I agree. It's amazing to think how strong and resourceful the human race once was, and how weak and dependent we've become. Common sense goes a long way!
I agree. It's amazing to think how strong and resourceful the human race once was, and how weak and dependent we've become. Common sense goes a long way!
The heat is relentless and no rain in sight...
Well as long as no one is looking to the taxpayers to fix these roads..I'm sure the private companies who use them will step up...the republicans tell us so
O PISS OFF Rick... you stupid democrat
So THAT'S a pretty valid response... grow the hell up, rich
No, rich. You are the one who need to fμck off. Rick speaks the truth.
With all the technology being used today, the power lines should be buried underground. No more problems from ice storms, wind storms..etc. Kind of seems ridiculous that we still have them above ground like the "olden days".
Then how can they make any overtime $$???
Then you have to worry about people landscaping or digging for other reasons hitting the lines and possibly being electrocuted... they cut phone and water lines like that all the time.
Or when a line breaks, they have more expense and time to dig it up. unlike above ground, they can't see where it is broken so they may have to dig up where it is unnecessary. Being below ground does not always make them unbreakable or when they get old, they have to be replaced whether above or below ground, then they have to charge the customer more for the extra work that will be added to your bill as a tax or fee to cover this
You don't have to see a break. Any reasonably competent electrical engineer can build a device that can tell you where a break has happened. In any case, a buried line isn't going to just break, something has to happen to make it break. Buried lines don't get old either. It's just a piece of metal. If it is correctly protected, which it has to be, it's not going to rust. Ground movement might cause it to break, but you can compensate somewhat for it by leaving it somewhat loose. It'll tighten first before breaking.
I am sure smarter people than me can come up with a bunch of better ways to make it more break-resistant. It's nowhere near a difficult thing to do.
The United States is less than 10% of the Earth. Now let's look at the other 90%.
http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/07/modern-global-cooling-hot-us-summer-is-exception-as-other-regions-experience-cold-events.html
The other 90% has been experiencing cooler than normal temperatures.
From: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120618152733.htm :-
The article that you cite just pulls together a bunch of anecdotes of the form "Why it's a bit cooler today." Globally, the world is warming. Significantly.
@economykiller-tell that to the DOD, Mr Willfully Ignorant
#!/NavyTFCC
hey, km, how are those Al Gore carbon offsets working out for ya?
For everyone that thinks burying the powerlines will solve everything...........I work for a major utility in one of the largest cities in the country, over half of the system is underground, and still just as many outages! You're just trading one problem for another. Not only is the cost to change it all over astronomical, the cost, and time to repair it when it does go down is even higher.
God bless the linemen, this is a job I would not want, so be grateful there are people willing to get out in heat, rain, ice, snow to do this!!!
Now a comment about climate change...I believe the largest contributor to climate change is deforestation. Old growth trees do more to lower temperatures and clean impurities out of the atmosphere than anything we humans can do. Preserve what is left of our forests and plant trees wherever you can and, I think, we could stave off the inevitable.
So, I just wanted to say, if you're driving on a highway at highway speeds and there is a bump large enough to make you catch air... SLOW THE EFF DOWN. There is no way that a bump caused by water expanding from heat that is large enough to make you catch air is invisible. Damn oblivious people everywhere... Coulda killed someone.
Perhaps the state highway division could have done a better job of alerting - like maybe have signs a few hundred feet before the buckled section with a warning. It looked like the only alert was the orange flags right at the buckle. Certainly not enough time to react.
What a bunch of Pansies. We never get under 100 here in California's Mojave in the Summer and nobody whines and whimpers. Cowboy Up you Easterners.
I also live in Southern California, Craig. But you have to remember, back East, they have the high temps PLUS humidity! Something we don't get in SoCal that often. Dry heat is better than heat with humidity!
Yes, the heat sucks but I'm more worried about the lack of rain where we are at (Indiana). The corn prices (and everything that eats or is produced by something that eats grain) are going to be insane if we don't get some rain. I suppose we just roll with the punches... not much that can be done about it.
Craig, come on out here when it's -20 degrees and 4 feet of snow on the ground... let's see how YOU cope
As the weather chic says one high-temp record after another is broken.....and as your power goes out and you and your family are stuck in 100+ for weeks.......JUST REMEMBER....your god-loving, gun-owning, Romney-voting, pro-oil/gas drilling republican neighbor says global warming is just "liberal propaganda."
That was sweet... watching thAT CAR SOME AIR... DO IT AGAIN...
This news is so like....last week. Big yawn here in Denver where the monsoon is cranking up and the temps are starting to cool. Hopefully it'll rain enough in the next few days to put the fires out for good. The long range forecasts are indicating a rather early and snowy winter. Precipitation about average or slightly above. Temps much colder than last winter here.
The Arctic Oscillation appears to still be in a negative phase, but this winter the cold surges should be on our side of the planet and shoot straight south into the heartland of America. ENSO is about neutral so there is no consensus as of yet of what effect it will have although it was a factor in Europe's cold wave last winter.
As seen on "Deadliest Catch" this season, the growing ice pack and it's surge south to the fishing grounds pretty much messed up their season. This had not happened in decades according to the captains. Global warming?? Really??
It is just an infrastructure problem. We would prefer to have soldiers fighting halfway around the world for multi-national corporate interests than taking care of our national security here at home. Meanwhile peoples lives are heaving for many reasons including war deaths and injuries in wars for lies and financial injuries due to lies for big profits and they are interrelated issue of putting profits first and people last. Bases all around the world, some 800-1000 of them, but a deteriorating base here at home and those coming back after war just have to wonder what was it for. A kind of Vietnam deja vu all over again and we have learned nothing except we were groundless without the cold war and have to have a new to keep us together. This time however a smattering of faceless terrorists is hardly a permanent cold war to hold us together and society is splintering into the individualism of self interest, excessive wealth. or just survival.