
Ross D. Franklin / AP file
Raul Castro, former Arizona governor, attends an event in Phoenix on Jan. 3, 2011. The 96-year-old former U.S. diplomat was stopped at a Border Patrol checkpoint last week after a radiation detector was set off.
A 96-year-old former Arizona governor and former U.S. diplomat says he holds no grudges against the U.S. Border Patrol agents who he says detained him at a checkpoint for more than a half-hour in stifling heat after his pacemaker apparently set off a radiation sensor.
Raul H. Castro says although he wasn’t mistreated, agents could have been more sensitive to his age and condition.
“I feel they’ve got a job to do and I don’t condemn them for doing a job,” he told msnbc.com on Thursday, “but once I was identified and I was 96 years of age and told them I had medical treatment the day before, I expected a little more.”
A friend who was driving the former governor at the time wasn’t so forgiving. Anne Doan, who teaches as the University of Arizona, called the treatment of Castro “humiliating” and “absolutely ridiculous.”
“I was embarrassed as I watched the governor being needlessly treated like a nuclear threat, especially because they knew he had just had a treatment at Tucson Heart Hospital the day before,” Doan wrote in an opinion column in the Nogales International.” I felt he was being disrespected as a senior citizen, much less the amazing statesman that he is.”
The Border Patrol says Castro was “delayed” for only 10 minutes and that it “regrets any inconvenience” caused by the stop.
Castro was governor of Arizona from 1975-77 before serving as U.S. ambassador to Argentina from 1977-80 under President Jimmy Carter. He was U.S. ambassador to El Salvador from 1964-68 and U.S. ambassador to Bolivia from 1968-69 under Presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.
The checkpoint incident happened on June 12. Doan, the daughter of former Nogales, Ariz., Mayor Arthur Doan and a family friend of the Castros, was driving Raul Castro from his home in the border town of Nogales to a luncheon in Tucson, about 70 miles north, to celebrate his 96th birthday.
Their car was stopped at a Border Patrol checkpoint on Interstate 19 near Tubac, Ariz., about 24 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border, after triggering a radiation sensor. Castro had a medical procedure for his heart and pacemaker the day before and he believes that’s what set off the sensor.
Doan said an agent directed Castro to a tented area for a secondary inspection, with temperatures approaching triple digits.
Doan said she asked the agents if Castro, who was dressed in a suit, could sit in his air-conditioned car instead but agents said he could not and that they had a fan blowing in the tent.
“I explained that he was a former governor and ambassador, a true statesman, and that he was 96 years old and that he shouldn’t have to be going through this. They knew it was the medical procedure that was coming up on their radar,” Doan wrote.
“At that point I was begging them to leave him alone.”
“It was very hot. It was uncomfortable,” Castro recalled.
Doan said agents asked Castro a series of questions, brought out a document for him to sign and then ran a detection machine over his body again before telling him he was free to go.
“We were walking away in the sun (back to the car) and they ask him for his ID,” Doan told msnbc.com. “By then he’s flustered – not because of the incident, but because of the heat. He stumbles around and drops his ID. One of the agents offered to pick it up and the governor said ‘No, I’ll pick it up.’ By then I could tell he was upset.”
Doan continued: “They just kept humiliating him, I felt. They never asked me who I was. I was driving the car and they never asked me for my name, my ID. Why they didn’t they ask me, if there was a nuclear threat in that car?”
Doan and Castro estimated they were held up for more than 30 minutes.
“When we were leaving he (Castro) said, ‘Well at least they didn’t send me to Cuba,’” Doan said. (The Mexican-born Castro is not related to the Cuban president of the same name.)
Asked about the incident, U.S. Customs and Border Protection in Arizona released the following statement:
“CBP detection equipment at the I-19 Border Patrol Checkpoint discovered a possible trace of radiation on Governor Castro. As required by policy, agents must identify and resolve all sources of radiation, regardless of the circumstances. In this instance, CBP agents were able to identify and resolve the source of the radiation reading. Gov. Castro was delayed for 10 minutes from 11:42 to 11:52 a.m. CBP regrets any inconvenience the delay may have caused.”
A Border Patrol spokesman declined further comment.
Castro didn’t make a big deal the incident but his wife, Patricia, was more critical.
“They’re doing their job, which we understand. Ordinarily we pass through there with no problem. But there’s a certain time when somebody’s that old and highly respected; in that state it seems to me they would have given some consideration to that,” she told msnbc.com.
Doan said agents could have been more accommodating and sensitive.
“They had a job to do and this 96-year-old gentleman was nobody even though he was former governor and former ambassador,” Doan told msnbc.com.
“In the desert heat you have to be sensitive to people who are ill or aged.”
Alessandra Soler, executive director of the American Civil Liberties of Arizona, told the Arizona Republic that agents should have used discretion instead of solely relying on a machine to detain Castro.
"I think most people would agree that subjecting a 96-year-old man to secondary screening does little to secure our borders and a man who had just informed them that he had undergone this medical procedure," she told the newspaper.
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A ha ha ha ha ha ha. Good to know our border patrol is on the case, protecting us from a 96-year-old heart patient, while the driver of the getaway car isn't even questioned. A ha ha ha ha ha.
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The reason he was detained was a good reason. He set off a machine that measures excess amounts of radiation. Your body sends out those signals after certain medical tests and your doctor will give you a letter to carry if he knows you are going to travel out of the country and return within a week or so. I was held up at an airport once for the same reason and almost missed a connecting flight. I think the agents did their job well. He may have been 96 years old but he did set off an alarm.
This is a very typical TSA lie: they said he was detained "in comfort" for "less than 10 minutes." Everyopne else says over a half hour in "broiling sun." If anyone wants to check, I will guarantee that the tapes of the incident have been "mislaid or accidentally erased." (The same form letter that the TSA always sends out.)
My guess is that with a name like "Raul Castro" and looking very Latino, and having been born in Mexico (like Romney's father) he fell into the profiling trap and was possibly even on the restricted entry list because of his name. My guess is that Jan Brewer would like to send him back to Mexico forever for purely political reasons.
I have an artificial knee. Because they couldn't figure out what was setting off their gates and wands and because the full-body scanner showed nothing and their refusal to look at either my TKR "recall card" and their refusal to even look at the scar, the brilliant and dedicated TSA put my name on the "enhanced (SS) security" list and described me as "possibly carrying contraband." There is no appeal and no way to get your name off the list --- ever.
But the really bad thing is that the mass of an artificial knee is almost exactly the mass (both metal and plastic) as a Glock 9mm. Since I have learned to keep my mouth shut and never volunteer anything, they have never once been able to localize the alarm to my knee and never once have they done anything except assume that their wand/gate is out of calibration. And this is in over a hundred screenings. These people are incompetent and constitute a significant victory for al_Quaeda by their very continued existence.
Truly...a gentleman and a statesman.
He did not belittle, complain or argue.... WOW!
I've been tagged at a checkpoint also for medical radiation, and I was with a TSA border agent on off-duty hours at the time, too. this was a month after a two-isotope test procedure. I'm not going to spill any beans on methods and procedures as it could be undermining, seeing as I know a little bit about what the process could have found out, but I'm confident that the process is protective. better equipped checkpoint than this one was, obviously, and Mr. Castro should have been handled differently.
he is owed an apology and that checkpoint should be better equipped to protect the health of examinees. a tent and a fan in hundred=plus heat is evil.
may he should walk across the border in the desert like everyone else - they rarely check for radiation out there. Like terrorists are going drive across the border . . . they are gonna backpack it using mules to carry what they want - or they'll just stick it in a container and ship it where ever they want it.
All this security has not caught a single terrorist. Ever. I want my country back. There is too much fear.
I'd like to know why the American Border Patrol station is 24 miles north of the border.
"Their car was stopped at a Border Patrol checkpoint on Interstate 19 near Tubac, Ariz., about 24 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border"
I have never understood why it is that the Mexican authorities monitor what comes into the United States and American authorities what leaves or it seems that's how I remember it was in 1986. How can you tell if the car you are inspecting has just come from Mexico or it is just another car full of American's if you are 24 miles from the border? Why isn't this being reported? Who is checking visas?
Chris,
It was CBP not TSA. Both part of DHS, but a different component agency.
Well, you know, He looked like a Mexican.......
You can thank Governor Cryptkeeper for this debacle and all future incidents of the sort. I wish she would go to Mexico and stay there.
I wonder if they would stop the wicked witch of the west (Brewer) is she tried flying her broom over?
weusall,
You get the part that this is a federal agency, not state government, don't you? Please tell me you are not that stupid.
Barney Fife would be proud, But Ex Govenor Castro was actually a pretty darn good govenor in Az back then. Before all the yahoo's moved here. Always wondered what became of him, Glad to see your still with us Gov.
Mike and Chris - I bet if there was another attack on the United States you be the first one whining like a baby about why didn't they do more to prevent it. Let's try this, why don't you go down to the border and do their job for a month. Give some respect to the people who allow you to write such trash and protect our borders.
I do not see that the Border Patrol did anything wrong. He was briefly delayed following their established procedures until the issue could be resolved. To show him special treatment because of who he was would have been wrong. He is not currently an official in any capacity and should be, and was treated like any other person that would be stopped for the same reason. Not allowing him to wait in the car is standard procedure so that they separate him from the vehicle so that they can be certain that the car itself does not also set off the detectors. They isolated the source causing the alert and resolved the situation in a professional manner. I am glad that he did not make an issue out of this incident and showed the class I would expect of someone like him. It is his handler/driver who should be ashamed for expecting special treatment just because of who he is. We do not have different rules for different people based on who they are or some previous status with the exception of former presidents. Castro did not ask for special treatment as he understood that it would be inappropriate and I applaud him for that.
You get what you ask for. Isn't this what Arizona wanted....tighter border control? Just saying.
chris when did tsa start working boarder patrol is there an airport there?
He also had a 'suspicious' last name... he was lucky they did not really roughed him up... (sarcasm intended)
to Governor Castro: on behalf of a grateful nation, we are ashamed at how you were treated! very, very shameful!! ('shall i pick your id up for you?' no! let the elderly man do it himself!!! being 96 what help would he need anyway? is there no common sense or decency left in America? it does not appear to be so!)
but to you sir, i wish you continued long life and good health!!!
as for the border patrol, you are a bunch of stupid thugs; liars who are only trying to cover your asses! and we DON'T believe your version of the story!! AT ALL!!!!!!!
JS in SD,
The Border Patrol mishandled a very elderly sick man by keeping him in the 100+ heat needlessly. They could have taken him into an office until this was cleared up. No one should be subjected to that, but the elderly are especially susceptible to heat/cold. Their bodies don't work that great. So, no, shame on them.
Look, the only thing that should have been done differently is that if someone is detained for more than a few minutes out in our good ole extreme Arizona heat, that person needs to be put in an air conditioned vehicle or room, especially if it's a child, sick or elderly person, it's just common sense....
Rather than make judgements and spew nasty rhetoric, let's support the use of this situation as a learning experience for our Border Patrol to do things better and improve.
I flew two years ago, less than two months after a TKR. I showed the TSA people my card and told them that i had an artirficial knee.
They told me they ignore the cards presented by patients with a knee or hip prosthesis. The man in front of me had two artificial hips, and told them. They said he must go through the machine anyway, and then they got all bent out of shape when the alarm went off.This happened, i believe, at Denver International Airport. The people at LAX were much more considerate and helpful.
By the way, I am surprised that Mr Castro wasn't denied boarding because his name is Raul Castro....
Bet you the Cuban president is on a no fly list...
You shouldn't have to have credentials to be respected by law enforcement or govt agents. What am I supposed to do, carry my curriculum vitae around with me whenever I'm traveling? Are my degrees or work experience able to get me a pass at security checkpoints? That's the wrong argument to make.
As an American citizen without any criminal record, I believe I should be respected at all times.
I agree with Chris--I think he was profiled and someone thought they'd caught a member of the Castro family in the country.
Stop and frisk is unfairly experienced by more blacks and latinos than any other group. Now Gov Castro knows how that feels. My advice to him--be careful if traveling in NYC. The NYPD are much worse than border patrol.
re: "I do not see that the Border Patrol did anything wrong." I'm sure they don't either...but that's not the measure of whether it is indeed wrong. We need to shake up Personnel thinking in this country. We hire the wrong personalities for many jobs. You give me a Border Patrol officer who strictly follows rules even with such obvious mitigating circumstances, and I'll give you someone better suited to an assembly line or perhaps Sanitation maintenance. And where was the Supervisor who certainly should have exercised judgement? My guess is he was busy looking the other way, not making waves, waiting for a promotion where his mindless ambition could do greater harm from negligence. Governor Castro reminds us of a time in this country when Character was a requisite for Leadership.
Not keeping an almost 100 year old in triple digit heat wouldn't be considered special treatment. I bet if it was some mucky muck blancopublican, you fair treatment advocates would be screaming at the tops of your lungs, vibrating tea bags everywhere.
It's a shame that a 96-year-old man had to endure this kind of treatment... but it's also a hilarious example of Jan Brewer's Nutball Kowgirl Paradise at its finest. The woman is not a credit to us white folks.
I could care less if he was 300 years old and was an ex president. If the detector went off, someone did their job. Now days, you can not trust anyone ! Some people think they are special and should not have to meet the same standards as everyone else. This guy is no different then the rest of the 300 million + other citizens of this country. Good Job Border Agents !
Oh well. Sh^t happens.
That doesn't mean you do away with Border Patrol enforcement because libtard MSNBC is looking to play hispanics as victims with this troll bait story.
Why was this guy's comments collapsed? I didn't anything threatening, racist, or x-rated in the post, just a position that didn't bash the inspection process.
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The reason he was detained was a good reason. He set off a machine that measures excess amounts of radiation. Your body sends out those signals after certain medical tests and your doctor will give you a letter to carry if he knows you are going to travel out of the country and return within a week or so. I was held up at an airport once for the same reason and almost missed a connecting flight. I think the agents did their job well. He may have been 96 years old but he did set off an alarm.
They did a HORRIBLE job. Forcing a 96 year old man who just had a heart porocedure to get out of an air conditioned car and be outside in scorching heat was NOT necessary. Whether he was an average Joe or a former Governor and U.S. Ambassador aside, no elderly should be treated in that manner.
Mr. Castro being 96 and a Border Patrol being in there 30s at least. I can understand them not knowing who Mr Castro is. The man is walking History before these Guys were out of triangle pants. I would have thought that these retired people of our Government would a special Retired Government ID or some such credential.
Only in Arizona...
I guess these guys didn't have a computer to look him up. That would have been the end of the discussion, the questions, the form he had to sign. Then being asked for ID as he is leaving? I gotta say he is a statesman when he can come back with a line like, " Well at least they didn't deport me to Cuba". I had to laugh at that one. Glad to see your still in good spirits Governor, and thank you for your service to this country.
They didn't know, the guy that set off the radiation detector said that was why, and he was right, but they didn't know until they checked. Should Border Patrol just start taking peoples word at face value? "No sir, that ton of MJ in the wheels of my truck is purely medicinal" Ah, ok carry on then.
Doesn't anyone on this list watch TV? As a plot line, stashing the bomb in an ambulance with a clearly "safe" old man or woman, has been used so many times as to be a cliche in script writing. And you don't think the "Bad Guys" don't know it?
IF you were some terrorist trying to sneak into the US would you have a shiny "bomb -looking" thing strapped to a pallet int he back of a Ryder truck, with 5 dark, swarthy young men wearing kaftkas, and holding AK-47s and soviet style chest mag pouch, with 2 week old beards and a copyof the Koran in their other hand?
Or would they stash the package in an icecream truck driven by a blond-haired, blue-eyed kid? or in the trunk of a university agracultural field agent's car, or - gasp! in the car of an elderly man certain to pass any test or inspection?
Just goes to show how we all pay every day by a thousand small cuts for America's terrorist paranoia.
Such a disgrace. This is why laws like this are intrusive and violate civil rights. Castro handled himself like a gentleman but he deserves far better. Imagine if he died during this.
Raul Castro? Must be Fidel's brother!
Yeah, because everyone named "Castro" must be a commie, right, Alex?
You know, I heard that everyone named "Alex" was a...
ah, forget it. I'm sure you can prove it ain't so, right? Better go get your papers.
Where's the explanation from Bitch Brewer?
Government union employees can get your blood boiling without the AZ sun.
A radioactive, 96 year old, former governor? Zombie Apocalypse, I tell ya!
What else to expect when you have Da-Rill Issa and the FOX News led Republican Party breathing down their necks and a President Obama who has to prove his "true" Americanship for his every breathing minute.
When bin-Laden got down there he told Ata and the 18 others, "Comrades they got me, but you won't believe how well our plan is working."
For me it's comforting they are scanning for radiation. To be able to detect such a small amount is reassuring though i feel for this elderly man who was inconvenienced.
lmao..... FEDERAL! Pay attention. I wish I had kept the posts from liberals back after 9/11, you would have thought they were republicans.....of course they didn't want to look unpatriotic in any shape mode or manner. Even the far left enviro/peaceniks were quiet. Now the constant drone of liberals are back at it....bad country....bad bad!
Exactly. We are changing the way we think, our way of life and are going bankrupt because of that guy. That was his plan and it is working like a charm.
He's hiding something, I just know it! Waterboard him and his driver and you'll see!
Ah wants my contry bak!
After all this IS Arizona....... "Show me your papers please". Welcome to right wing America in the 21st century. How do you like it so far?
Welcome to the new face of America. And it will get worse believe me.
You already have given up too many freedoms to get them back again.
Doubter222 ...(#1.40)..."Where's the explanation from Bitch Brewer?"
I'm typing this very slowly cause because some people can't read fast....
It ---- was ----- the ------ U. S.---- B O R D E R------ P A T R O L.......That would be P.Obama and AG.Holder and DHS.Napolitano's control and directives......Gov. Brewer can't even get ICE to answer the phone....
Wanna try again ???...Please tell me you don't vote.....
Coming soon to a theater near you, THE NEW WORLD ORDER. Thanks a lot, Papa Bush.
So, big Al, it is "right-wing" to follow the law and ask someone to show his/her papers ? Yes ?
It is right-wing to follow the laws of these United States ? If you don't like it - I can think of a country very near by where you might be more comforable. I for my part appeciate the Border Patrol doing their job. They are on the job, from minus 30 to plus 120 degrees. Thank you guys !
They may have been extra alert since the supicion that Arafat was poisoned by Plutonium was raised in the international media two days ago. One never knows.
R I Mom, even though he is retired, he is still a diplomat at heart. That is why he tried to make nothing out of it. I have a relative almost as old as Mr. Castro, who also worked as a diplomat. When talking to him, I could see him using tact in trying not to badmouth a nasty relative. There is a reason they were successful at their jobs as diplomats.
I also think that some young "turk" saw the name and thought that Cuba's President made an unauthorized visit to this country. Then again, maybe I am giving them too much credit for having a brain.
@ Gbr
Imagine if they did not check him and someone else died because the border agents took something for granted. It might even be you. Perhaps 10000 people died because someone gave a free pass to someone for some reason. Before you get all smart about my statement remember it is not just about him... it is about all of us. The border agents did their job and did it well as far as I am concerned
And has far as this moronic statement. .
No where in the article does the man in question state, hint or imply that his civil rights were violated. I strongly urge you to look up somewhere what a civil right is. Civil rights do not include a free pass because someone is 96 and an ex-governor. If you feel your civil rights have been violated, vote for a change.
Where did all the whining about the TSA come from, and even the comment about governor Castro being being on the no-fly list. This is the Border Patrol folks. They have nothing to do with TSA. Different outfit and different orders.
I realize that some folks think that anything that has to do with the government, local, state and federal, has to involve some sort of conspiracy and corruption, but please, keep your comments related to the story at hand.
Chris, I've commented on your "they have never once been able to localize the alarm to my knee" story before. Granted, I wasn't there when any of your incidents occurred but, as a former security officer in the Navy, I believe I could pull a 15 year old kid off the street, give him 5 minutes instruction on how to use a metal detecting wand and he would be able to find an artificial knee within seconds. If any of the folks who worked for me were so incompetent they couldn't find it, I would have fired them and if they even once "assumed that their wand/gate is out of calibration" and let someone pass, I would have them up on charges for dereliction of duty. In security, especially where terrorists might be involved, you NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING because as soon as you do, you give terrorists, and anyone else trying to exploit security weaknesses, just the opening they are looking for.
JS in SD, Good point, Spydergirl, I get what you're saying if that was my father there would have been an arrest, mine! We don't know what the Border Patrol goes through day in and day out. And without cutting them any slack the way Gov Castro did,what if it went the other way? I mean who knows what a terrorist really looks like? If the Gov got a pass and it turned out he wasn't who he was? Plus,she didn't help the Governor at all. Anyone who has ever been through customs knows not to f**k with them,let them concentrate,do their job, and keep us safe. The ex-Gov handled it well because he was probably amazed at the security measures. Jan Brewer's doing her elected to do job, she's double checking everyones invite to the "Presidential Dinner"!
I believe I heard Obama say, "If I had a grandfather he would look just like Raul Castro."
I wonder if the illegal aliens Romney was hiring(from Guatemala)ever had to go through this rough routine? When Romney was caught twice with illegal aliens working for him he just let them go. Never called ICE to pick them up.
I appreciate the work ICE and Border Patrol do. It's the people that hire them that are the greedy crooks. Anything to pinch a penny. So did ICE or agents pinch Romney?...Nope. Not the second time either.
Oh well. Sh!t happens.
That doesn't mean you do away with Border Patrol enforcement because libtard MSNBC is looking to play hispanics as victims with this troll bait story.
Hey stupid gringos, we mestizos have been putting up with stuff like this for years. and yup, their are BP checkpoints "inland" from the border. That said, not clearing a 96 year old man faster was grossly insensitive.
Seems to me that big wheels should get the same treatment as the rest of us, little cogs. It also seems that castro feels the same way. At least he measures up. How many others do? What if it had been one of obama's old college professor buddies?
Arizona is turning into a Nazi state. Younger generations obviously aren't being taught to respect their elders. They KNEW how hot it was, and this man's age. Regardless of who he was, his age and the heat alone demanded a more sympathetic and respectful course of action.
WOW! I'm listening to all these comments. HAVE ANY of you lived in Arizona? I grew up in Tucson. We ALL pay a price for illegal immigrants, and this gentleman, who I know is a gentleman, because he was in office when I lived there, showed grace and respect for our BORDER PATROL! You know, the guys who are on the front lines to keep all the drug cartels out of our country? Brian Terry ring a bell?
My family was stopped once, coming back from Rocky Point from a family vacation. I have Chippewa Indian blood, and while it doesn't show so much in me, my son, about eight at the time, is dark skinned, even though my husband, with us at the time, and my daughter, both are blond and blue/green eyed. I am brown eyed, with reddish brown kinky curly hair. We got pulled over during a routine check, heading back to Tucson. The Border Patrol was extremely courteous, although they did detain us for about 10 minutes. Once I told them that my son was part Chippewa Indian, through me, and we had proof (through ID) that we lived outside Tucson, they let us go.
For those of you who don't know, Arizona is danged HOT at this time of year. Those who live there are accustomed to it, so what is 110 degrees to them is about 85 degrees to someone living, say, in Colorado, of which I do now.
I think he showed so much grace and understanding for the men who serve us, not so much his companion. I am thankful now, as much as I was when HE served us then.
If you haven't lived in that environment, don't judge what others do, especially when they serve all of us.
Nothing mysterious about this incident. He had a cardiac stress test at a Tucson facility and then travelled to Mexico for whatever reason less than 48 hours later. Had it been even 40 hours the half-life of the radiopharmaceutical - 99m TC Sestimibi - would have naturally disentegrated inside his body so that little detection would have been possible. Even less had he followed instructions and drank alot of fluids to force the radiation out of his body the "natural way". I know, this is the job I do all day long.
Had nothing to do with disrespect or who the person is/was. Just following their protocol and it happened to be a very hot day indeed. Good job, Border Patrol.
i read the headline first thought was Janet Napolitano. hurray !! then was disappointed
Bravo Border Patrol!
I don't care if this was a 96 yo former Governor, Bill Clinton or George Bush. If you trigger a threat I expect protocol to be followed. It's a shame nature didn't cooperate with a nice 70 degree day for this to happen on but that's how life goes.
When someone crosses an international border celebrity should never be a reason to disregard the rules. It's amazing how easily some people are enthralled by someone who did what they were voted in to do. A civil servant from ombudsman to president is no different than any other person when it comes to security.
As an aside, wouldn't it be nice if the Liberals who are so enraged about this trivial incident were as outraged about the murder of Border Agent Brian Terry? I guess not being able to promote their typical racism prevents that.
Don't use threat of death as an excuse to violate our rights. Many people have fought and died to give us these rights including members of my own family. He didn't question it but Mrs. Doan sure did. Just because the ex-governor has too much class to make an open statement about it doesn't mean he was not upset about it.
I vote my conscience every election. No need to remind me.
Anecdote: A while back, a friend and I would regularly cross from El Paso to Juarez and back. Our bags and vehicles were typically checked thoroughly whenever we crossed back into the US. However, one day I made an off the cuff remark about telling them that I was an illegal alien and not a US citizen. I was not questioned, my ID was not checked, nor my bags searched. But my friend got the usual once over.
If I live to be 96-years-old I hope I look that good!!!
AND, I hope I will be as understanding, and have as positive an outlook and attitude about life as Gov. Raul Castro.
You're an inspiration, sir!
Wouldn't a former ambassador have a diplomatic passport ? It wouldn't surprise me that he did, yet they still ended up doing this. The default setting for all Homeland Security people is that everyone is an extreme threat and you have to prove you are not a threat (guilty until proven innocent.)
Are we safe now that the threat from 96 year old former ambassadors is stopped ?
@ GBR
Look, don't think for a minute that members of my family have not died to. My family is as important to me as yours is to you. So what are you going to say now, my family had more then yours ? Perhaps if we had a few less rights, no one would die. I am not advocating that, but don't use your rights as an excuse for more people to die...
The US Border Patrol is a Federal Agency working under Federal laws and policy and is not connected to the state or its laws. The Border Patrol actions are the same in Texas/California and everywhere else they work.
For big Al let me type slow....F e d e r a l n o t s t a t e, its really not that hard.
This man is an inspiration, to have been born in Mexico, in a shack near the border and make it to be A US governor and an Ambassador to the USA in 3 different countries during important times, definitely deserves my respect. To think that Obama made 800,000 immigrants accomplish their goals, makes me wonder of what good the Mexican and the Hispanic immigrants will bring to the USA. We need to hear of more accomplished Mexican-Americans instead of the negative press we get. From the beginning of the USA Mexicans have been intermingled in their history in a positive way...
This guy could easily have had a bomb. Good job, BP.
Mark,
You are an idiot.
It's hard to find anything good to say about Mexicans. They can't even run a third world country without crying that their American neighbors should just give them a new life in America because they ruined Mexico by overpopulation.
Did Mexican soldiers "racially profile" American immigrants in Texas at the Alamo and Goliad?
That what the DREAM Act will do for you.
I think that the border agents did a great Job. Other than this gentleman was elderly what would you have them do, all the excuses where ones that anyone trying to smuggle across the border would use including using older people. I would not have known who he was or should I be expected to know and believe everyone. If you believe everyone then there is a bridge for sale with ocean front property in NY.
If we could only get AZ governor Jan Brewar to cross the border so the Mexicans could keep her............
who is Governor Brewar??
She is the female version of John Boehner but instead of crying turns into a witch and shakes on TV if they go too long and dig into happy hour time.
Good thing Mr. Castro was 96. This amazing man and staunch Democrat was a boxer as a young man and mostly won by knockout. As Ambassador under Johnson, he was involved in the few South American Countries where the America's radical right did not set up their puppet dictatorships. Carter even trusted him enough to send him to Argentina (Possibly to sort out that vipers nest of relocated NAZI fascism?). And he was a good Governor to AZ before hating mexicans became the meme there. Hope some respect comes out of this......
Maybe you folks missed the message that Arizona has nothing to do with the Border Patrol. If you want to point fingers look directly at Washington, DC. Border Patrol, ICE and Homeland Security are not subject to Arizona directions.
Mr. Castro was taken to a tent with a large fan for approximately 30 minutes until his vehicle was cleared and he was released. I guess the next time they get a radiation alert they should ignore it huh?
If Mr. Castro understands and casts no blame what gives any of you the right to sling mud? What a bunch of idiots.
AZ Dave, Sorry if you voted for your Governor Jan, she is a piece of work on TV not to sling mud. You have to live with her and thankfully I don't..........
lmao... an epic fail for seven! You can lead a horse to facts......but you cant make him read them!
Between cell phones and the internet, we have instant access to just about everything these days.
Corroborating Ms. Doan's explanation would have taken just a minute -- Mr. Castro could have stayed in the air-conditioned car while the agent checked it all out.
You know, on so many levels this is really all about fear. We fortify our borders because of fear. We suspect our neighbors because of fear. We have to have guns because of fear.
And it would not surprise me at all if the agents themselves are afraid of losing their jobs because they did not follow the letter of the law to a T.
FDR said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." He was right. Look what it's doing to us.
Well said Morrigan! Hear, Hear!
Between cell phones and the internet, we have instant access to just about everything these days.
LOL...You have been watching too many made for TV movies...Everything is not CSI with instant identification responses.
She wouldn't get as fair a trip as illegals in the US get. And if they can strip search a baby at the airport because 'anyone' could be packing whatever, then for gods sake, this guys pacemaker set off A RADIATION ALARM.....
How does the Mittster do on the illegal alien issue?......Oh yeah, I remember, he gives them jobs.
Romney...the job provider...to Illegal aliens.
From Politico.com dec 4 2007 ROMNEY HIRES ILLEGALS!
The morning after last week's debate "immigrants from Central America who say they are here illegally were in plain view on the lawn in front of Romney’s salmon-colored mansion in Belmont. Chatting in Spanish, they hustled to rake massive clumps of leaves, dump them in barrels, and clear debris from his tennis court.
Their boss, Ricardo Saenz of Chelsea, was the same man who for a decade brought illegal immigrants and others to work for Romney, whom he had met through their shared Mormon faith. A year ago, the Globe broke the news that illegal immigrants landscaped Romney’s 2.5-acre property.
In the past two months, the Globe observed Saenz and his crew at Romney's estate once a week, except during the week of Thanksgiving. The lawn work at Romney's usually took place around noon, then the crew drove a few houses down the street to the home owned by Taggart Romney, one of Mitt Romney's sons, where they worked for about an hour. The work was sandwiched in between other jobs elsewhere, on workdays that sometimes lasted 10 to 12 hours.
Last Thursday, the Globe interviewed two of the three workers who were at Romney's house. Both said they were illegal immigrants from Guatemala; one of the immigrants said the third worker was also here illegally. After the first snow, one of the workers said he went on to another job for another employer after Saenz said they would not return to Romney's house until next spring.
All those millions, and he can't hire Americans to work on the properties.....How cheap and unAmerican can one man be? Did Romney report them to ICE?...Nope, he turned them loose and kept the same company doing the yard work. Romney...the offshore job provider for a worse tomorrow..today
Actually, Lost, I hardly ever watch TV.
I am totally not a techie, but Wikipedia and Google Images could confirm who this man is, or a cell phone could be used to call the doctor for verification or to check with the folks who were expecting him as a guest....
One more reason never to visit Arizona again...
Have you lived there IX? or Morrigan? Until you do, don't cast stones. Arizona, Texas and California are truly where the line is held....and until you live on the border, get up to go to work at 6 am and find an illegal hiding behind your car, I don't think you can have the answers. I have actually experienced that.
It's so easy to judge what they are doing until you have to deal with the issues they do. Everyone blows off what Arizona, Texas and California have to deal with, because it's not their reality and gives none of those states credit for being the transitional point for the US on immigration issues when it comes to the west.
Get off the high horse.
Yes starsailing...we know you hate Romney...how do you feel about Obama giving 800,000 illegals a free pass and work permits...sure beats those 2 illegals that were hired by a person Romney hired to do his lawn.
Who was he? Doesn't matter what office he held or what his race is. He is a 96 year old being held in triple digit temperatures. There is nothing in ICE job description that disallows humane treatment. There is nothing in the P&P that states they must treat the elderly with less consideration than they would a dog.
Considering that this is from MSN, this teaser is obviously missing pertinent information. But if Mr. Castro was asked for his ID and his driver wasn't, then they was not due diligence in the performance of their duties.
I voted for her. No regrets. None.
If they had treated him differently and let him go...and if he did have some sort of bomb or whatever then you would all be criticizing the border patrol for not doing their job...some people cant be pleased no matter which way you go.
No matter who you are or how high up on the "chain" you are..there are still rules
AZ DAVE: Its unfortunate that many people have no concept of the seperation between a "state" authority and a "Federal" authority, which is why government gets away with many of the things they do......the average person today knows more about american idol over basic civics and law.
If those who garnered any basic reading comprehension skills paid attention this was not even an "immigration" status detention. The border patrol never questioned his legal citizenship, he set off the radiation detector.......it was a safety/threat assessment investigation.
I knew the public education system was bad......but from reading on this post it is in worse shape than I ever imagined.
Good post Sir.
No, I haven't lived there, Aralee.
And if I found someone hiding behind my car at 6AM, I'd be frightened.
But if it wasn't illegal for him to come here in the first place, would he have to be there early in the morning hiding behind your car?
What makes a person so desperate that he would risk his life to come here, knowing it is illegal? What makes a person leave his home and all he knew to risk an uncertain future?
Maybe there needs to be a reliable way for ordinary, good people (whatever their socioeconomic standing) to come here legally -- so that the only people tryng to get in illegally would be people who are doing -- or have done -- something wrong. That probably is not as easy as it sounds; but as I said above, a fear-based approach harms everyone except those who profit from our fear.
Is this news???????
Yawn.
In 1950, the average life expectancy of Mexicans in Mexico was 50 years of age. Thanks to medicines from the US, in 2005 the average life expectancy was 72 years of age. Did Mexico ever thank the United States?
@Morrigan
Maybe there needs to be a reliable way for ordinary, good people (whatever their socioeconomic standing) to come here legally --
There is a way! it requires a test and paperwork. but it takes time and everyone wants instant gratification
This shows the intelligence needed to be a border patrol agent
Yeah, I was overqualified because I graduated high school :( I need to eat too ya know!!!???
I HOPE THEY check his toothbrush, too!!! maybe someone is up to no good!
the bp couldn't cathch a cold!!!
Just goes to show how we all pay every day by a thousand small cuts for America's terrorist paranoia.
Julkie post3.5
Well said and so true.
I am thinking along the lines of Daryl, what the 81. May be you will one day meet a Border Patrol Agent and you can ask him yourself. For one thing, you don't sound like you now much about the requirements to become a member of the Border Patrol. Would you even pass the physical ? Border Patrol agents and their families sacrifice a lot so that we, the citizens, can feel a little safer : they are out in high and low temperatures, on shift duty, which is always hard on families, and the constant fear. Do you know that drug cartells have put a bounty of Border Patrol AND THEIR FAMILIES ?
no, you didn't. I forgive you for that. I just ask you to reconsider what you said. Incientally, it was Arafat's toothbrush, which bore traces of the Plutonium.
Good one, Paul! I was thinking the same thing.
You shouldn't be so bitter. If you showed up looking like one of the Village People, I'd turn you away too.
Castro has been causing trouble for years.
Commie!
It's good for powerful people to get a little taste of how government treats the rest of us
Ya, Steve. I'm sure you're persecuted on a daily basis.
I suspect you know absolutely nothing about Mr. Castro. Perhaps, just a little knowledge would inform you of this gentleman's lifetime of extraordinary perseverance, service and dignity.
that would take to much time to think before he speaks
Being a native of Az, I remember Castro, he was a good govenor, not like the political azzholes we have today. And the fish does stink at the head with Obummer.
One thing I have to say is Gov. Castro still has much more class and he's 96.
Steve-719293 post 4
Mr Castro is now and always has been a dedicated public servant and deserves our gratitude and respect not thoughtless comments like yours.
You make it sound like he did all this for free, Like any politician he did it for his benefit as much as anyone elses, He set the radiation monitors off so they followed protocol, This was not the state of Az it was the US Government.
No politician is more valuable than the citizens they work for, I do not use the word serve because politicians do not serve, They are employed, They are paid quite well and have comprehensive health and benefits packages that we the citizens pay for their entire life and to their spouses after their death.
Yeah, but lost in the pine barrens, this politician showed grace and understanding of why and what was happening, and didn't blame anyone. You can bash politicians all you want, and sometimes I agree with you, but this man had the grace to understand what was happening and was not offended. He should have been paid...he did a service to our country. Bashing him shows no respect for someone who actually had grace....and just tells future people trying to help....why should they?
Yes it is. Ass kissing libtards would beg to differ, though...
Their paid to do a through job, not to think.
I have no idea what you said because of all those spelling errors
I'm betting you don't get paid "to think" - am I right Domewars?
Duh!!! Which way did he go George! ... Stop watching so many Looney Tunes and catch up on Steinbeck, Dumbwars.
steve: esp when they are 96 years old!!!!???????????????
what a warm heart you have!! i can feel your compassion all the way here in europe!!
america is in a very, very sad state.
Yes, I hear the border patrol (and TSA agents) often do a "through job".
Especially if you set off the detectors.
gee -- I hope that my nephew (currently deployed) never gets stationed in AZ -- he would not be amused or so tolerant....
The jokes just writes itself.
If he was an illegal alien, they wouldn't have even bothered to stop him.
They would have given him a work permit and guided him to the office to apply for food stamps, section 8 housing, driver's license, and medical care.
You're showing your ignaorance, what_the_81. "illegals" aren't eligible for food stamps or Sec. 8, although they might be able to get a drivers license in some states. And everyone (even you) can get emergency medical care, but not much else unless you can pay.
I'll bet Obama can get them food stamps. He's the Food Stamp President.
"I explained that he was a former governor and ambassador, a true statesman, and that he was 96 years old and that he shouldn’t have to be going through this."
Glad they did a check, and sorry but we can't take people at face value anymore.
casreader: and a dose of compassion costs what exactly? you can do your job and still act like a human being with a modicum of decorum, sensitivity and compassion.
a little insight can go a long way. perhaps they will learn that someday. probably won't. but it is possible!
seems thinking is above everyone's paygrade in government these days! our/your tax dollars at work!!
i expect more for my money!!
The part I struggle with isn't how one individual was treated nor was it this person's status. I struggle with the act of being stopped, in one's own country and detained. Maybe I am missing something. But, I thought that we, Americans, were free to move about within this great country. I have traveled to countries where you have to take papers (passports, visas and letters of introduction) with you at all times. And, I have been asked for them numerous times. This isn't what I would expect in America!
It was a Check Point. They have those all the time in areas where there is a high probability of a criminal act occurring. Ever heard of DWI check points? They have those all the time. Being so near the border, it's no surprise they would have one as traffic moves north. You either take the breathalyzer or show your papers, or you don't continue on your journey.
On a side note, I disagree with the women in the article who is spouting out his credentials as a reason why he should get a free pass. Isn't that what irks us about politicians? (and he is a politician no matter how you slice it) Getting free passes? Plus, he was the one setting off the alarm, not the driver. They couldn't care less about her because she's not setting off alarms..
He shouldn't get a free pass because of who he is, but that does not negate the need for common sense and compassion. Until proven otherwise, he provided them with information about a recent medical procedure involving his heart. He is clearly a senior citizen. That alone should have had the agents escorting him to a place that was out of the elements with more than a fan to cool it in the middle of a heat wave. How would that basic consideration have endangered their ability to adequately perform their jobs? Simply put, it wouldn't. This basic lack of respect is what we are hearing about on a more frequent basis, and it should disturb every American.
Monkey you are so right. They could of still done their job and kept him comfortable while checking. No matter who he was he is a elder that is 96 and he could of been treated with compassion/ with AC then I would have no issue. But the name his obvious hispanic look he was treated differently. The woman did NOT have to friigin show ID so if they were so worried would they not of treatedher the same? They were not and that to me shows the me more than anything their intent. What if it had been you Mother Or Father in their 90's you would be ok with this???? I doubt it.
Yes, he is elderly and he handled the affair with dignity. BUT being elderly should not excuse you from being searched if you trigger an alarm. The terrorists who turned the 1972 Munich Olympics into a bloodbath are now approximately 75 or 80 years old and they were never caught.
Mr. Castro can make all of us seniors proud for acting like a real gentleman. Those ladies in the story sound a.) as though they want some more publicity and b.) as though they are slightly hysterical. Obviously, they understand very little.
Everyone keeps spouting off about keeping this elderly gentleman in an AC environment. What no one has mentioned not even in the article, was AC even available? If the BP only had a tent with a fan that is the best they had. They did need to clear the vehicle for radiation and that needs to be done without the person with radiation in the area. Has anyone even thought that if the former AZ Gov wasn't bothered by this why should the people that were not even there?
I am sorry we don't have an aristocracy in this country and he shouldn't have been treated any differently than me. Also anyone that old shoud be verified as a legal resident. In February I was in TJ for work and coming back it was shocking to see how many people in wheel chairs etc coming over for their health care that my taxes or my insurance pays for.
And just how do you know they were coming over here for health care??? You don't, you are just assuming and wrongly assuming I might add. Mexico has a public health program, unlike the U.S. They have state run free health insurance. Americans are going to Mexico and Canada for treatments because they are cheaper, not the other way around.
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Dan-1018744
what rock have you been under? ever heard of the 1%?
@ochi...if Mexico has such great health care, why, oh why are they coming hereand using ours???
@Ogichidaa81,
Not to Canada any more. Canada just passed a "medical immigration" law that prohibits Americans from "immigrating" to Canada for the free health care. Americans just went to the back of the line. Canadians are not very happy with people who spend all their time making up lies about Canadian healthcare and then quietly slip across the border, take up residence, and ask "where's my free health care." Now, an American's medical treatment in Canada is now limited by a cash bailment or the person is certified to have no imminent danger of death and deported back across the border. If you have enough cash, you can stay and be treated. However you will be charged the American UCR.
dan, or they paid for their care while working here and then retired to Mexico? is that possible?????
social security doesn't pay for out of the country medical----even though it would be/is way cheaper!!!! what sense would it make to do that---- to provide cheaper care where the person lives?
Europeans can get medical care in the USA and their insurance pays for it. duh!!! seems they have figured out how to make it work!! i wonder why we can't? double duh!!!!
(americans need supplemental health insurance when they leave the country because our coverage stops at the border!! why????)
Dan puleeeze do not attempt to 'post' here when you are recovering from a drug induced stupor?
Thanks and best wishes to you and your family if they still acknowledge you.
Paul in Chicago --- You live in the most phooked up State and City in the Nation. Who are you to criticize anything or anyone else.
"verified as a legal resident." There you have it. The death of America. Papers please, next!
They use our medical care because they can have an anchor baby and get to stay here.Due to currency differences the underclass from Mexico can work here, and do alright. send money back. Mexican-Americans I know here (full citizens) go back to Mexico for medical care because it is more affordable. Many Americans travel there for the cheaper pharmaceuticals.Everyone is pointing out that mega-rich Romney hires illegals. His family is from Mexico and he keeps his wealth offshore, he buys companies and offshores them why does it surprise you that he would hire illegals?
He looked like he could be illegal, so they detained him, checked his id and questioned him. There are old illegal aliens out there and we cannot cut them slack just because they are old. This is what the great state of Arizona voted for. Stop anyone who looks illegal and check their status. This is what happens. Too bad there are people out there that "look" illegal, but aren't. Go Arizona!
No way, illegals are awesome! Trying to stop them is a waste of time and money.
so in other words they profiled him, which they aren't supposed to do. what does an illegal look like anyway idaho? that's a very telling comment by the way.
Illegals are awesome only for companies looking to hire cheap labor. That's the only reason why they're here!!
I was being sarcastic. Sorry...I guess I should have said that before.
Border Patrol agents are federal employees so they have no bearing on AZ or what we voted for. He wasn't profiled, he set off a radiation detector and they did what was called for. If they hadn't he easily have complained that he received preferential treatment or something else. I've been stopped at checkpoints hundreds of times and it's no big deal.
Dude - the border patrol [or ICE now] is a federal agency - Arizona has nothing to do with how they do their job. Please - get some knowledge so you don't look like an idiot.
IdahoSteve is exactly right. Keep those d*** 96-year-old illegals OUT. They might stay here for years! And you know those Hispanics; they breed like stoats. The old b****** might produce a whole slew of offspring, all claiming American citizenship.
Right on, Steve. Go Arizona!
how does a person who is irish or polish look illegal? they don't it seems as they are white!!
illegal seems to mean 'hispanic' and hispanic 'only'!! IMHO.
Ding ding ding....Paul wins. Of course they aren't looking for people that don't look hispanic as illegals. You are completely correct...take out illegal and insert hispanic.
I caught the sarcasm and the blatant attempt to blame this on the state of Az, These were US Government employees and they stopped him because of one thing...he triggered their radiation monitors, Trying to make this anything else is a lie but of course what else show we expect.
How about this...It is all part of Obamas war on the elderly
@IdahoSteve
Last time I checked, Arizona and the other border states share said border with Mexico...not Poland or Ireland.
Go speak to immigration officers working San Fransicko where they deal with mostly asian/chinese illegals. Or try Boston MA where most illegal aliens apprehended are Irish. Just because you only read about the southwest doesn't mean thats all there is to the world.
Try going to a county hospital in any state. They're mostly Mexicans.
What a frigging whiner. A radiation detector went off. They don't know who he "was" nor should it matter. They did the proper job. Give it a break.
they knew he was old and that alone was enough to justify being more sensitive to his health.
The BP agents said they were sensitive to his health; his friend Doan said agents could have been more accommodating and sensitive.t.....who are you going to believe? Just think about it though, this same mentality that you're complaining about is going to be running the heatlth care system one day. Still celebrating the passing of Obamacare now?
Which part of 'doing their job' involves denying an obviously aged man air conditioning in a desert environment? Correct answer: no part. These people just enjoy enforcing their will on people while they can couch it in policy. Basic respect needs to be taught to our public servants and peace officers, and nothing else should be accepted.
bill from oregon,
she isn't a whiner.
she just wants people to be treated with dignity and a modicum of respect! certainly that isn't to much to ask.
a bit of respect, a smile and an apology doesn't cost a thing. you just need to have that in your heart, to begin with. some have it and some don't. do you?
the detector would indicate such a very, very low level of radiation, they should have known what they were dealing with when they stopped him.
maybe they could turn down the dial? or they could just read the detector's manual, for further information! it really isn't that complicated to connect the dots PROPERLY! INTELLIGENTLY!! HUMANELY!!
Paul, how the hell do you know what the "detector would" of done? You weren't there, nor do you have any knowledge. How do you know they "didn't" know what they were "dealing with." Do you have knowledge the rest of us don't have?
As I said, give it a break. Try an education instead of an opinion.
See, our borders are well protected, as NO radioactivity can get through. Bet y'all feel safer after reading this feel good story.
I'm sure the radioactivity was emanating from his stomach because of mexican street food and contaminated drinking water.
SINCE THERE are lots of sources of background radiation, lets just flip our lids and wig out.
old people having medical procedures (read prostate cancer that is 'seeded' with little specs of nuclear medicine.) or a thyroid scan where a patient is given radioactive iodine the day before the scan to check for tumors.
in a restaurant or airplane you have no idea who/what you are sitting near. or what they are emitting, beside the evil eye!
and old wristwatches are still radio active, to name but a few.
you can google for the rest.
the extremely low levels detected should have indicated to the bp what they were dealing with!
but like the airports, let's just turn the dial up all the way, so when you go through security the metal detector goes wild with just a penny in your pocket!! a penny!! in europe i wear my rolex through security and nothing goes off! (AND i get to keep my shoes ON!!) perhaps a more sensible approach?
i think so.
but if you turn up the dial, you get more to write about in your reports to headquarters, to justify your even increasing budget requests!! ''we didn't catch anything but we responded 1859 times THIS year! UP from only 932 LAST year! so we need more money and more manpower. quick, send money!!!!''
YOUR tax dollars at work, folks!! (wasted would be a better term. so when you are tapped dry of money, at least you know where it went!! like 'catching' 96 year old men who are having medical procedures at that time of their lives. you really want to pay for this nonsense? no? you are!!!!!! obviously, you are!!
vote out ALL of the knuckelheads come november!!
There was rain in most parts of the country today. That probably accounts for the foolish and ridiculous comments about this issue.
Americans have rolled over and been pronounced 'dead' by this socialist regime. Take off your shoes you suspected terrorist (of course you are in your own country) take off you sweater, coat, jacket, we are here to protect you. Stand in front of the radiation machine as we want to see your 'junk' !
This is just the prelude to being completely searched at every city entrance, every state border and every Federal building by an adoring, however incompetent, bunch of low life perverts in the name of protecting YOU from those nasty and powerful TERRORISTS.
Hogwash, to put it mildly. Just another power grab by a socialist dick who is the least intelligent person in any room at any time BUT who can follow the orders of his master and do a credible job of teleprompter reading.
America is in the throes of death and there is not a 'white knight' anywhere on the horizon.
So we the PEOPLE must save ourselves. Send this bozo an eviction notice this November and all of his failed people and policies. Do we really want Janet Napolitano in any leadership role ?
Naaah
I dont care if your the past govenor. Do your job and think a little. No one shoudl get a free pass. When he was a govenor im sure he got enough free passes.
if they were thinking they might have been a little more sensitive to the situation. he wasn't asking for a free pass, just a little consideration for his health problems since it was so hot and heat tends to harm the elderly more than most other groups.
Skinny,
When you're 96-years-old I hope someone shows you the courtesy of detaining you outside for 30 minutes in 100+ degree heat while you swelter in a wool suit. Then, perhaps, you'll understand better why senior citizens should be treated with caring and respect.
But he looks illegal and alien to me and with a name like that.....welllllll..... thank God Brewer has her flying monkeys with a law behind them to stop these heinous Mexicans from taking the jobs the 96 year older peions are taking from our children's children. Way to go, Jan! By the way, your taxidermist called and you're due for a a face stretching.
The old Governor still around huh?
That is right, if you are young, we will not send you back or given you any problems. But if you are old, even if you are a citizen, well just read the story. Seems like some of the TSA people who were fired, might have gotten their job back.
California is so much in debt maybe we could rent the state to Mexico until California gets back on track financially?? It will be easy, Mexico wouldn't have to force anyone to speak spanish.
How many times do you people have to be told that it was not the TSA. They only work at the airport. This was the Border Patrol. Also all you idiots who are just reading the comments and then making you own. Read the story. The temp was approaching triple digits. I know that this could only be a few degrees but get your facts right. It doesn't matter what his age is or who he is. They found a problem and performed secondary checks. That is what they are supposed to do.
ARIZONA makes us all proud. (said as sarcastically as possible!)
Hey Paul......this was not the state of Arizona.....Border Patrol is a Federal (I know a big word, but it means the government of the United States) which they do not enforce any state laws only federal laws, you know the ones from Washington DC, not Phoenix Az.......
Your teachers must be real proud of you......you know I saw some books on civic and government on amazon.com pretty cheap....you do know what a book is ...??? Right
Geez Azrancher, take it easy
I guess the saying "Don't mess with Texas" should also include "Dont' mess with Arizona"
Zero tolerance is the answer to ALL our problems. Let's start by locking up ALL the pot smokers. Think of all the new prison guard jobs.
Hey now, what on earth did a poot smoker ever do to you?
MSNBC hates any attempt by the U.S. to defend its people or its borders.
exactly! that's why they were outraged when we caught the under wear bomber and immediately demanded his release! wait, that didn't happen.
Daryl,
You need to really research before you mouth off. Your facts and figures are all wrong. They did what they are now telling us to do..catch and release. They have never been honest with the facts. They have targeted Arizona horribly. This administration is the worst in History. What Prez sues his own states? They are to protect the states, which they have not done. This is all political and it will come out. Its people like you that believe anything. All of this will eventually trickle down MORE and you will feel it more in your pockets..Then you might understand...We should all be helping Arizona, they are one of our states.
It was Arizona - need one say more? And one of their former Governors, approaching 100 - too funny. But they don't ask the driver a single question? The Incompetence Meter jumps off the scale. How clever of this nearly 100-year-old-guy to have a terrorist drive him, the Border Patrol gave the driver a pass without checking. Our Border Patrol and TSA are a joke - they harass the innocent, and let others pass without a proper check. If we suffer another 9/11 we'll have these idiotic 3-Stooges agencies to blame, for their ineffective screening.
Daryl, you admit he is a dictator...lmao
Or is it that you just want something to hate on when it comes to government, until the teabaggers have a dictatorship of their own that you can love and cherish forever?
The Arizona conservatives prove their idiocy once again.
border patrol is your US Government. idiot
Very well said mojo. BTW Mr Lloyd, I go through those checkpoints all the time and the majority of the BP agents manning them are Hispanic. They don't go ouot of their way to harass anybody.
Lloyd,
Federal and State. You do understand the difference, right?
they don't go out of their way to harass anyone, except the vulnerable, the elderly and disabled. and/or occasional 96 year old, US statesman, it would appear. anyone who can't fight back. why risk your own health to save others?
the difference between the tsa and the bp is what, in IQ points? 3? 7? what? if you don't make it as a bp you can always get a job with tsa?? seems to be the case.
how many tsa brainiacks were fired for sleeping and not screening baggage in the last few weeks? (i lost count.) i would expect bp will be getting a rash of applications shortly. of course the air traffic control people should not be left out for their Mensa quality personnel. but that, as they say, is another story! (remember the story of the plane that landed on its own because it could not roust the sleeping air traffic controller?? more of your tax dollars at work. but what the hell, you have lots of money don't you??? to pay for all of this nonsense? i left the country to minimize my taxes. just not interested in throwing my money down a rat hole. not anymore.)
The mas said he was not humiliated. others said that. They could have used better judgment.
on the other hand can the border patrol discriminate or not?
ding. ding. ding. And here we go...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me tell you something -- In the Arizona heat -- everyone that gets stopped for a second inspection should be entitled to sit in the AIR CONDITIONING while the agents scan the vehicle, asked questions, etc....
A fan in the desert just won't cut it (especially for a 96 year old man with a heart condition).
The border patrol was right to do the stop and check. But, as with any elderly or ill person, they could have offered a little more comfort (air conditioning). There are portable air conditioners for barns, tents, etc. that could have been used for both the comfort of the detainees and the agents working in the extreme heat. But, for those blaming the "Arizona conservatives", the border patrol are FEDERAL agents. So if you want to blame a side, the Liberals, AKA Obama are in charge of the Feds at this moment in time; not that I am blaming Obama. It is just a stupid over-sight from an agency run by people who have no idea what it is REALLY like in the fields.
I'm sure the BP agents would love to have an air conditioned room to search people in or to take a break but some border checkponits only recently converted from being run by generators to having electrical lines running them. I think eventually they will have some air conditioned facilities but maybe this checkpoint is still run by generator. A fan uses much less electricity than an air conditioning unit so it may not be feasible to have one there yet.
texana did you mean, just ANOTHER stupid OVER SIGHT??? how many do we need to tolerate? how dumb are they? it seems to keep happening. when will this stupidity stop????
a reading so low as to barely register is not the same threat as one that jumps off the charts.
if they, perhaps, had read the manual that comes with the scanner, they might have known not to even stop the car. how stupid are these agents?
they should be fired for their stupidity! THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE 'RETRAINED' OUT OF THEIR OWN IGNORANCE!
just let them go and try to hire a smarter batch of people for the next training class.
the public and the US taxpayers deserve much, much better!
as a taxpayer, i demand much better service from government employees than this!
Before we jump to conclusions and call these agents stupid, it should be asked if the detection equipment is automatic, and therefore, not adjusted or read by the agents, but reacts to minimal levels set at whereever it is calibrated? In that case, all they would know is that radiation was detected, period. Everthing else regarding the level is pure speculation on the part of the Border Patrol agents and the reader of this article. As far as the tent goes, as someone had pointed out, part of the protocol might have dictated separating him from the automobile to insure that the radioactive reading was isolated to him alone, and a tent with a fan was the best they could offer. Heartless? How do you know? And finally, the request for ID probably was associated with documenting the event to correspond with the log inside of the radiation detector.
People trying to protect you from terrorist.Yes an extra checkpoint trying to catch illegals.Go to mexico,the real inspections are like forty miles in.
Arizona is like living in mexico,freakin spanish everything.Cops shot by illegal aliens.Massive amounts of cheap labor.People complain about having to show an ID to vote?
Come here legally like i did,learn english and want to be an american.
Only 2 people even noted the most important part of this story, which is the technology we have that can detect even a trace amount of radiation at some distance.
Old news. It does make me think about removing the battery operated fire detector in my rv though.
I wouldn't expect anything less from Arizona (State or Federal). They are lucky they he didn't die from the heat. Although, Al Qaeda recruiting a 96 year ex-Statesmen of the USA is an interesting concept. But you can't blame them this is much easier than dealing with drug and gun runners. It is interesting to note that most of the guns go through Arizona and not Texas or California. Running drugs through California pretty much stopped in the 1970's. Although then they were profiling white people with long hair and possibly a beard.