Medicinal marijuana needs to be either legitimized across the federal and state boards or it needs to be outlawed. As the laws stand now, there is no certainty as to the true legal status of it and this makes it hard for both government and civilian entities to create policies to deal with it.

Seven, have you been living under a rock recently? There are all kinds of laws being pasted by conservatives restricting the rights of Americans. Did you hear about the Michigan Campaign to drug test urnal cakes? How about the state that wants to force women considering abortion to watch a sonogram or the state that passed a law saying a women who suffers a miscarriage could be tried for murder?

The very people who hug their flag and tout freedom is the very people making intrusive laws LIMITING your freedom.

Get a clue. This isn't new legislation, this is enforcement direction, which comes directly from Eric Holder's Justice Department, or (as opined in the article itself) Geithner's Treasury. If you want to blame someone, at least blame the one(s) responsible.

To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.

T Roosevelt

the best part is the flag they hug was made of hemp spun by betsy ross herself. alond with the constitution, the bill of rights, and almost every bible printed .

blueingoregon,

"The very people who hug their flag and tout freedom is the very people making intrusive laws LIMITING your freedom."

And yet it is those same conservatives claiming they're all in favor of states' rights. Apparently, by states' rights they mean the right of the states to restrict personal freedom.

So where are all the usually vocal libertarian/states rights/anti-fed folks for this one? Oh wait, it's not about their taxes, so they aren't complaining.

Big (Feds) government crushing state government. They need to mind their own business or states may begin looking for ways to secede and turn our country into many countries.

blueinoregon, you need to learn how to spell before you criticize anyone. The federal government needs to stop the bull@!$%# and legalize marujuana. Alcohol is far worse and is legal for pete's sake. With all these new synthetic drugs that mimic marijuana I would think it would be in the majorities best interest to legalize the all natural true form of THC, than to keep having these synthetic drugs popping up everywhere. If you make the real drug legal, regulate it like alcohol, and make it affordable, then there will be alot less of a need for the synthetic @!$%#. Open your eyes and minds congress, quit being retarded bastards and listen to the people. A poll was done recently that suggests well over half the population favors legalization of marijuana.

Too bad in USA cash rules and credit cards are just a way to not carry cash so by outlawing a credit card does nothing except to help inform people of how stupid they are if they put all their cash in a bank and walk around with credit cards charging you mass interest rate to use it and limiting you on what you can even use that cc on. People cry about the bad people and the losers ruining our country but they still give them tons of cash for their services and store all thier money in their banks and allow their companies they work for to take taxes out for you so really do you want a change or not. If you want a change take a stand and stop supporting the rich peoples businesses and services. It really is that easy but we know the older generation who grew up on news channels and papers with no internet available to learn truth are ruining the usa and have been for quite some time but soon they will die off and the world can change for the better.

JimP: blueinoregon said conservatives were behind this; you said no, it's Eric Holder. Since Holder IS behaving like a conservative on this issue (after promising he wouldn't - anyone remember that?), I agree with blue. This is just more restriction on freedom from an administration that thinks if it acts enough like a pack of Republicans, the GOP will stop calling them commies.

blueorgeon, while you made some good points you don't have to be a dick writing it........

Mike-923263...Found it kinda funny that you misspelled alcohol after stating blue can't spell, at least you redeemed yourself later in your post. It also seems as if you and blue agree it would be a wise move to legalize "real marijuana", I too concour. To those thinking blue is being as a$$ perhaps he needs to smoke a bowl!

Land of the free and home to the enslaved.

I have no trust for the Federal government any longer.

Cannabis has been proven time and time again to have medical benefits yet it is still a schedule 1 drug.

Our farmers could be growing hemp to use for 100's of different things (soaps, paper, rope, construction materials, car materials, etc) but will not allow us to do so.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD HELP OUR ECONOMY BUT MAKING THESE NOW CRIMINAL ACTS INVOLVING GROWING A PLANT A NON CRIMINAL ACT.

We live in very sick times.

And you guys like Obama in California ....

That's what you get .... "LOL"

The truth is in the weed.

meaning that if we really were a democratic nation and since around 60% of the population smokes weed on a daily basis and i thnk the voting was around 60-40 for making it legal it actually proves that the system has and never will be democratic in any sense.What more proof do you loonies who believe in voting need? Are you really that braindead? Now you know why your kids have no respect for you you are just a brainwashed tool. If the people with money dont want something or do want something in our so called USA they will get what they want. It is our duty as people of the land to vote them out and even collapse their system if they dont want to listen to what we the people want. Hopefully we get change peacefully because these rich crooks dont want it to get violent because their generations will get wiped out basically overnight if @!$%# really does hit the fan. How do i know because I have studied the past not just our past but the pasts of many civilizations and the people of the land who get taken advantage of by these crooks eventually take back what is rightfully theirs. Then the cirlce of greed will start again... Its all math really and Ill tell you how the rich can get away with what they can in a simple math problem

If A is a success in life
Then A =x+y+z
work=x play=y
z=you shutting your mouth

So you can't use your credit card and get airline miles or cash back for buying weed? You have to use cash or a debit card? This is bs. Thanks Democrats!

Credit card pot? God you gotta love America. No one has fronted weed for years.

pot has medical benifits, you cant OD on pot, its not physicaly addictive, you can legalise it and tax it.which would instantly wipe out a huge source of cash for the cartels

or

you can follow the herd and keep it illegal. lock up hundreds of thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens, spend billions incarcerating and trying to stem the tide. and it still doesnt work

I think we should go a step furher and legalise all drugs, why is some Bureaucrat allowed to make decisions for you and I, obviously most people need some form of recreational drug be it alchohol , pot or cocaine it doesnt matter, make them all legal for adults, regulate and tax them, addictive drugs would need a doctors prescription and would be administered at a clinic. the price would be small since it costs pennies to make or harvest them. what do we have to lose, you can get any drug you want anywhere is the US now without regulation and you're supporting organised crime

Too many people started cashing in the credit card bonus perk sky high miles and the banks got pissed.

So would that make them higher than high IXLR8 ....

There are videos on-line of people trying that synthetic pot - it doesn't look like any pot high I ever experienced, it looks more like some gag from Jackass.

Bush liked coke and booze, Obama liked weed - both quit, and like all quitters, turned into @!$%#s.

Hard for them to do on a Sat bigben, I am cruising at 85,000 feet right now with the seat belt sign off.....

why do you people use this story to bash conservatives? you know nothing about conservatives or even your own political ideology. do you think that outlawing weed was a conservative thing? no, its was a progressive thing all the way but your too full of it to see past it. wanna know who didnt vote for civil rights? thats right, dems. who instituted jim crow/segregation laws? thats rights dems. who created the KKK and had members within its party ranks? thats right dems did. the dems would love to tell you that you can kill an unwanted fetus without question but ingesting a natural plant is a big no no and must be punished. the backers of the move to outlaw hemp was all dem supporters with major money. why not get that biased ear plug out your ear and listen to the truth, or at least a different view.

im sure there are those fake 'conservative' bible pushers who use their views to push more laws that restrict based on morality but to call them conservatives is like calling anarchists liberal. just because someone says who they are does not means thats who they are. progressives use liberals, dems, conservatives and republicans to shield their motives as well as liberals use conservatism to shield their motives. restricting our god given rights is not a conservative idea, its a progressive one.

the federal government has no authority to make marijuana illegal along with lots of other things they have no power over but somehow is allowed to operate with impunity. the federal government also has no authority to tell CC companies who they can/cant accept as CC charges. everything the federal government has said about marijuana was a fabricated lie and as such any law banning marijuana is invalid and citizens do not need to follow unconstitutional laws, this country and government is made up by the people, for the people, nothing else.

Yet another encroachment on state rights from Big Brother. When are people going to wake up and tear this bull#@#$ system apart? Starting with dismantling the two party system that keeps us slaves.

This is ridiculous.

With a doctor's prescription, patients suffering from Cancer should be able to relieve the harsh effects of Chemotherapy. Maybe the pharmaceutical companies are behind banning the use of credit cards for medical marijuana. Any therapy that the pharmaceutical shops do not get a big cut out of, they will ban it.

Just call it a vegetable and you can all use your FoodStamp EBT card.....Duh !!!!!!

This is Obama because he hates medical pot.

Any vote for a Democrat or a Republican is a vote in favor of the most draconian drug laws Washington can offer.

The only solution is to get rid of both parties.

Vote for Liberty.

Please vote LIBERTARIAN even if only this once.

lahater ...(#1.27)

"This is Obama because he hates medical pot."

He must, otherwise he would have included it in ObamaCare...you could have picked some weed up with no co-pay or deductible and your insurance would have to pay, just like birth control pills and "Ooops, I shouldn't have done that last night Pills"

Every time he sends me an email asking why I'm not sending him money this election season I tell him it's because he swung to the right when the majority of the people in this country voted for him because he campaigned on the left. If he wants to win this election he needs to stop pandering to the conservatives and the corporations, they don't like him anyway.

Obama, legalize pot and stop acting like a conservative and you will win hands down, you are losing millions of votes because you are running this country like a fascist police state just like the cons wanted you to. They got to fill up those corporate owned prisons for their legalized slave trade and you are helping them do it.

I told my wife the first time I saw you that him that he was a bought and paid for conservative pretending to be a liberal. He got the conservatives individual mandate passed that came straight from the Heartland Institute, he expanded the role of Homeland Security, brought some troops home but expanded the war to Pakistan using drones, and has increased the war on marijuana throwing more liberals in prison than his predecessor.

Mitt Romney scares the hell out of me and if we elect more teabaggers to congress and the governors offices it will be the nail in the coffin of this democracy but I can't see a whole lot of difference with what we have now with these wolves in sheeps clothing. The only hope we have is if Ron Paul runs on an independent ticket.

I watch what goes on in Colorado and it's freaking the Cons out down in Colorado Springs. When 3 or 4 weed dispensaries opened they freaked. They don't complain about the bars, nightclubs, restaurants selling a proven deadly toxin, alcohol.

Over 50% of US citizens approve of medical marijuana, make it the law of the land and tax it. 1000's of lives have been impacted by an archaic law. Hawaii County will not waste funds to prosecute possession.

Just leave me to growing my own Kush.

Here is the REAL reason marijuana is illegal. Psst...surprise, surprise it involves politics, banks, and greed!

Hemp as public enemy #1

Hemp was the first plant known to have been domestically cultivated. The oldest relic of human history is hemp fabric dated to 8,000 BC from ancient Mesopotamia, an area in present-day Turkey. It has been grown as long as recorded history for food, fuel, fiber, and for another legitimate use, which is not even discussed here for the sake of brevity, medicine. So, with all these uses and benefits, why is cannabis cultivation illegal in the United States today?

Here is a brief history of cannabis prohibition:

Hemp was a primary source of paper, textile, and cordage fiber for thousands of years until just after the turn of the 20th century. It was at this time that companies like DuPont first developed chemicals that enabled trees to be processed into paper.

DuPont's chemicals made wood pulp paper cheaper than paper made from annual crops like hemp. At the same time William Randolph Hearst, the owner of the largest newspaper chain in the United States, backed by Mellon Bank, invested significant capital in timberland and wood paper mills to produce his newsprint using DuPont's chemicals. DuPont also developed nylon fiber as a direct competitor to hemp in the textile and cordage industries. Nylon was even billed as synthetic hemp. DuPont was also manufacturing chemical pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers useful in the cotton industry, another hemp competitor.

Mellon Bank, owned by U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, was also DuPont's primary financier. Mellon's niece was married to Harry Anslinger, deputy commissioner of the federal government's alcohol prohibition campaign. After the repeal of Prohibition, Anslinger and his entire federal bureau were out of a job. But Treasurer Mellon didn't let that happen. Andrew Mellon single-handedly created a new government bureaucracy, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, to keep his family and friends employed. And then he unapologetically appointed his own niece's husband, Harry Anslinger, as head of the new multimillion dollar bureaucracy.

At the same time, a machine was developed that was to hemp what the cotton gin was to cotton: it allowed hemp's long, tough fiber to be mass processed efficiently and economically for the first time. Popular Mechanics, in February 1937, predicted hemp would be the world's first "Billion Dollar Crop" that would support thousands of jobs and provide a vast array of consumer products from dynamite to plastics.

This potential rejuvenation of hemp was a major threat to Secretary Mellon's friends and business associates, especially Randolph Hearst with his wood paper industry and Lammont DuPont with his petrochemical and synthetic fiber conglomerates. After all, hemp farmers wouldn't need DuPont's chemicals to grow their hemp because the crop is self-sufficient. The hemp-based ethanol fuel that was mentioned in the Popular Mechanic'sarticle probably didn't sit too well withthe oil companies of the time. They also couldn't have been too thrilled to learn that this same plant produced high-strength plastics without a petroleum base. The hemp-based plastics developed at the time were stronger and lighter than steel, which we can imagine wasn't the best news for the steel industry. In addition, the growing pharmaceutical companies were producing synthetic drugs to replace natural medicines. Hemp extract was used for thousands of years to effectively treat everything from epileptic fits to rheumatoid arthritis. Chances are hemp's resurgence wasn't good news for these drug companies either.

What we see is that the potential revival of the hemp industry was a threat to almost all the corporate giants of the time, and Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon was at the top of this food chain. So Commissioner Anslinger, Mellon's appointee, begins researching rumors that immigrants from Mexico are smoking the flowers of the hemp plant. Racism was rampant at the time, and there was a government movement to curb the number of immigrants crossing the U.S. border at Mexico. Anslinger plugged into the racist sentiment, and began referring to the "hemp" that Americans knew cannabis to be, as "marijuana," the Mexican slang word for the plant. He labeled it as a "narcotic" even though cannabis flowers cannot cause narcosis, and spread exaggerated stories and outright lies that Mexicans and blacks became violent and disrespectful to whites when they smoked the "evil menace the cotton gin was to cotton: it allowed hemp's long, tough fiber to be mass processed efficiently and economically for the first time. Popular Mechanics, in February 1937, predicted hemp would be the world's first "Billion Dollar Crop" that would support thousands of jobs and provide a vast array of consumer products from dynamite to plastics.

This slander of cannabis was all just fine for Anslinger's friends, the Mellons, the DuPonts, and the Hearsts. In fact, Hearst's newspapers picked up on the propaganda and fueled the fire by publishing hundreds of lurid stories about people raping and murdering while under the influence of marijuana. The sensationalism sold lots of newspapers, and the people of the country actually based their opinions on this one-sided information. Of course the stories never mentioned the hemp that people used every day as rope, paper, medicine, and more. The stories always referred to cannabis by the Mexican slang word, marijuana.

With the moral and prohibitive fervor of the time duly stirred, Anslinger took his show to Congress. At the proceedings of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, Anslinger didn't mention that marijuana was hemp. And because anti-marijuana propaganda didn't mention that basic fact, hemp industries found out almost too late about the effort to criminalize cannabis cultivation. Testimony was heard from the full gamut of hemp companies and advocates, from birdseed suppliers to cordage manufacturers, from farmers to physicians, all touting hemp's importance in American history and the many industrial, agricultural, medicinal, and economic benefits of cannabis. Only after their testimony, was the wording of the bill changed to allow for the continued legal cultivation of industrial hemp. Anslinger even backed off on hemp prohibition in a very cunning maneuver.

After the Act was passed, Anslinger single-handedly usurped congressional power by mandating hemp prohibition. He justified his action by saying that his agents couldn't tell the difference between industrial hemp and marijuana in the field, so hemp cultivation made enforcement of marijuana prohibition impossible. This unconstitutional usurpation of congressional law is still in effect today as the Department of Justice and the DEA still cling to Anslinger's unjust and unjustifiable prohibition on domestic hemp cultivation.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

Sorry, had a glitch when I copied and pasted and lost a paragraph. Here is a re-post.

Hemp as public enemy #1

Hemp was the first plant known to have been domestically cultivated. The oldest relic of human history is hemp fabric dated to 8,000 BC from ancient Mesopotamia, an area in present-day Turkey. It has been grown as long as recorded history for food, fuel, fiber, and for another legitimate use, which is not even discussed here for the sake of brevity medicine. So, with all these uses and benefits, why is cannabis cultivation illegal in the United States today? Here is a brief history of cannabis prohibition:

Hemp was a primary source of paper, textile, and cordage fiber for thousands of years until just after the turn of the 20th century. It was at this time that companies like DuPont first developed chemicals that enabled trees to be processed into paper.

DuPont's chemicals made wood pulp paper cheaper than paper made from annual crops like hemp. At the same time William. Randolph Hearst, the owner of the largest newspaper chain in the United States, backed by Mellon Bank, invested significant capital in timberland and wood paper mills to produce his newsprint using DuPont's chemicals.

DuPont also developed nylon fiber as a direct competitor to hemp in the textile and cordage industries. Nylon was even billed as synthetic hemp.

DuPont was also manufacturing chemical pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers useful in the cotton industry, another hemp competitor.

Mellon Bank, owned by U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, was also DuPont's primary financier. Mellon's niece was married to Harry Anslinger, deputy commissioner of the federal government's alcohol prohibition campaign. After the repeal of Prohibition, Anslinger and his entire federal bureau were out of a job. But Treasurer Mellon didn't let that happen. Andrew Mellon single-handedly created a new government bureaucracy, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, to keep his family and friends employed. And then he unapologetically appointed his own niece's husband, Harry Anslinger, as head of the new multimillion dollar bureaucracy.

At the same time, a machine was developed that was to hemp what the cotton gin was to cotton: it allowed hemp's long, tough fiber to be mass processed efficiently and economically for the first time. Popular Mechanics, in February 1937, predicted hemp would be the world's first "Billion Dollar Crop" that would support thousands of jobs and provide a vast array of consumer products from dynamite to plastics.

This potential rejuvenation of hemp was a major threat to Secretary Mellon's friends and business associates, especially Randolph Hearst with his wood paper industry and Lammont DuPont with his petrochemical and synthetic fiber conglomerates. After all, hemp farmers wouldn't need DuPont's chemicals to grow their hemp because the crop is self-sufficient. The hemp-based ethanol fuel that was mentioned in the Popular Mechanics' article probably didn't sit too well with the oil companies of the time. They also couldn't have been too thrilled to learn that this same plant produced high-strength plastics without a petroleum base. The hemp-based plastics developed at the time were stronger and lighter than steel, which we can imagine wasn't the best news for the steel industry.

In addition, the growing pharmaceutical companies were producing synthetic drugs to replace natural medicines. Hemp extract was used for thousands of years to effectively treat everything from epileptic fits to rheumatoid arthritis. Chances are hemp's resurgence wasn't good news for these drug companies either.

What we see is that the potential revival of the hemp industry was a threat to almost all the corporate giants of the time, and Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon was at the top of this food chain.

So Commissioner Anslinger, Mellon's appointee, begins researching rumors that immigrants from Mexico are smoking the flowers of the hemp plant. Racism was rampant at the time, and there was a government movement to curb the number of immigrants crossing the U.S. border at Mexico. Anslinger plugged into the racist sentiment, and began referring to the "hemp" that Americans knew cannabis to be, as "marijuana," the Mexican slang word for the plant. He labeled it as a "narcotic" even though cannabis flowers cannot cause narcosis, and spread exaggerated stories and outright lies that Mexicans and blacks became violent and disrespectful to whites when they smoked the "evil menace marijuana."

This slander of cannabis was all just fine for Anslinger's friends, the Mellons, the DuPonts, and the Hearsts. In fact, Hearst's newspapers picked up on the propaganda and fueled the fire by publishing hundreds of lurid stories about people raping and murdering while under the influence of marijuana. The sensationalism sold lots of newspapers, and the people of the country actually based their opinions on this one-sided information. Of course the stories never mentioned the hemp that people used every day as rope, paper, medicine, and more. The stories always referred to cannabis by the Mexican slang word, marijuana.

With the moral and prohibitive fervor of the time duly stirred, Anslinger took his show to Congress. At the proceedings of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, Anslinger didn't mention that marijuana was hemp. And because anti-marijuana propaganda didn't mention that basic fact, hemp industries found out almost too late about the effort to criminalize cannabis cultivation. Testimony was heard from the full gamut of hemp companies and advocates, from birdseed suppliers to cordage manufacturers, from farmers to physicians, all touting hemp's importance in American history and the many industrial, agricultural, medicinal, and economic benefits of cannabis. Only after their testimony, was the wording of the bill changed to allow for the continued legal cultivation of industrial hemp. Anslinger even backed off on hemp prohibition in a very cunning maneuver.

After the Act was passed, Anslinger single-handedly usurped congressional power by mandating hemp prohibition. He justified his action by saying that his agents couldn't tell the difference between industrial hemp and marijuana in the field, so hemp cultivation made enforcement of marijuana prohibition impossible. This unconstitutional usurpation of congressional law is still in effect today as the Department of Justice and the DEA still cling to Anslinger's unjust and unjustifiable prohibition on domestic hemp cultivation.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

Realist-502574

"Sorry, had a glitch when I copied and pasted and lost a paragraph. Here is a re-post."

You took up that much space twice ???....Please, just make a comment and give the link....

I'll fire up my Kindle if I want to read a book...

Testimony was heard from the full gamut of hemp companies and advocates, from birdseed suppliers to cordage manufacturers, from farmers to physicians, all touting hemp's importance in American history and the many industrial, agricultural, medicinal, and economic benefits of cannabis.

including the AMA (american medical association)...

whoops nevermind just spotted the physicians and medicinal part there...

Mike in Delray

I've read several of your superiority complex posts over time and my instruction to you is...get over yourself. Not everyone has a Kindle or wants to click the link (which I only add as verification of what I post). When you become an employee of Newsvine or MSNBC then I will do as instructed. You are not the extra special poster you think you are, but rather an irratating mosquito bite on someone's butt!

Realist no actually you are the one irritating (learn to spell) and posting links is always better as when many of us see such long posts we do not even bother to read ore then a sentence or two and go on to someone who can state what they think instead with the link to back it up. Sometimes reading an article is wanted but then we will go to the link ourselves. posting an entire article just to satisfy YOUR need to be extra special by reposting instead of stating your own thoughts. And posting it twice because you copied wrong, why not use your brain ( hard i know too busy copying) and just post what was wrong instead of the entire thing?

This is not to say the information you copied is wrong yes cotton did play a big part in the banning of hemp, yes there are many uses for hemp including paper clothes and medicine, but stating your own opinion based on thinking you have doe based on actually information always better then just copying others work.

no einstein, people like you don't want to use their brains and click on those links. you just say "oh bull@!$%#!" and move on...you know what they say about bliss and ignorance...realist did the right thing. you guys need to be force fed facts that run counter to your circle jerk-off party "beliefs"...

WTF?
Click on the link or don't click on the link, read the long comment or don't read the long comment.

Maybe we need a law for proper commenting etiquette.

Here I thought we beat the British train of thought now they fly under a false flag. Tea baggers.

Don't worry about it too much Realist, Mike in Delray is just a troll. You should read some of the crap he posts, talk about uninformative rambling. I enjoyed your post and found it informative, but then I don't have attention span of a gnat. And I would think most people reading the comments don't either, but it's the internet and the trolls love their anonymity.

As for Bluthunder, hahaha, I love it when some knob bitches about spelling and then makes a spelling mistake. All I had to do was, and I quote, "bother to read ore than a sentence" of your drivel before I started laughing at your incompetence. So basically STFU!

Unless you are the author of this, or any, article, you are the only one that needs to worry about spelling, punctuation, etc. and that's primarily because you are getting paid to write it. Commentors are not professionals, we're just stating our opinion, agree with it or don't, but don't be a dick about it.

Hey teachers, leave them kids alone!

Just got home from work, at 4:20. I didn't mind reading through Realists lengthy post at all. Even though I was familiar with most of the info, I was unaware that the Mellon/Anslinger connection included marriage. I'm aware that some viners seem to be intimidated by such massive walls of print, and often try to be more concise, and avoid free associating because of that.

For myself, I like both. The short and to the point, with or without links, are often entertaining. The posts like Realists, which give more insight than the original article are also worthy of attention. I do think just posting the missing paragraph would have sufficed.

Now back to you can't buy Medical MJ with a credit card. This makes no sense. Cash transactions are much easier to slide past the IRS. Why would they want these businesses to not have records with Merchant Services? That's why people pay for their drinks with a credit card, and tip the girl with cash. So she doesn't have to pay taxes on the tip, like she would if they tipped on the card.

Feds are fighting a losing battle. I'm a senior citizen and I will live to see pot legal. Special interests are what keeps it from becoming legal in spite of the benefits.

The thing you're not seeing Den, is that the reason they want less of a paper trail is so that the IRS can just make up a number for them to owe. When these get popped by the Feds, the big money is in the taxes. If the trail is obscure, the IRS agents can just say that they owe 200% of what they have. It's the exact same tactic they used against Capone (allowing for new technology).

Aww, poor dope fiends. What's a self-indulgent, narcissistic hophead supposed to do?

lol...

the state that passed a law saying a women who suffers a miscarriage could be tried for murder?

That was Mississippi, although there are 38 states that are passing and/or have passed such legislation, and the reason why one woman was charged was because she was abusing cocaine prior to the loss of her child. Another woman had her baby die because she attempted suicide using rat poison. Yet another was charged with using drugs while pregnant. Another was charged because her inhalation of methamphetamine fumes resulted in her child's death shortly after birth.

The laws actually are intended to target those whose babies die as a result of chemical and alcohol abuse, or physical abuse, and both men and women have been charged under these laws. In all seriousness, babies die from mothers taking drugs all the time, and those babies who survive birth to women who are chemically dependent are substantial drains on society resources while growing up and on the criminal justice system when they get older. These laws were needed a long, long time ago.

Of course, the propaganda claims that the reason for all this is solely a ploy to work to overturn Roe v. Wade. You need to get out more and stop falling for liberal trash bandied about by your favorite blogs and propaganda mills.

This is all the Presidents fault and Eric Douche Bag Holder..

You voted for these lying @!$%#s now you get what you voted for

Thanks for playing.

Someone said hophead, rotflmao. Why don't you finish the thought with some 1966 Dragnet diatribe...You're pretty high and far out. What kind of kick are you on, son?

Well Bob-342114, was I speaking about you?

If I was, too bad. Tough sh!t.

lol...

Maybe you guys should consider the fact that the '' War on Drugs '' has been a losing battle from day one and they know it. Yet they continue to peruse it for the one main reason as it earns them a serious influx of campaign contributions to help the organized crime operations maintain the high prices of drugs and the pharma companies that are manufacturing 3 and 4 times the amount of prescription drugs that pharmacies sells .

Well the war on homicide and the war on identity theft (as two examples) have been losing battles since day one, yet they have to be fought. This isn't about winning or losing or playing a zero sum game here.

Don't like the law? Then go to Congress and get it changed. That simple.

those are crimes against humanity. smoking a bowl is not the equivalent of murder and stealing...not like prohibition, a real crime against humanity.

those are crimes against humanity. smoking a bowl is not the equivalent of murder and stealing...

Yes it is. If it wasn't then the law would be changed and you would be on the winning side. The war doesn't have to be won. It just has to be fought.

Btw, you better not do it around me. I'm a narc. I hate dope. I am not cool. I will have you busted.

Ya dig?

;/

go for it. lowest priority in my state and city and ticket only fine, which i can afford...ya dig?

;^/

go for it. lowest priority in my state and city and ticket only fine, which i can afford...ya dig?

Where's that at? San Fagcisco?

lol...

nope. washington state, mongoloid.

NOW, the Feds are really getting down to the reality of the "medical marijuana" issue in CA. This is all about MONEY!!! If you take away the ability of criminals to make a profit, they leave criminal activity behind. The marijuana business is criminal. Drug gangs KILL to keep their pot fields growing.

This isn't about grandma needing to toke up for her cancer treatment. It IS about criminals keeping $$$.

Next step is seeing the Feds withhold Federal Matching Funds to some of these libtard states in order to get them to comply with Federal Law. They'll have to choose between them and their local hophead lobby. The brain dead stoner losers who squeal because they can't suck their lollipops whenever they want to. Whaaa....

Works every time. (hands clapping)

The drug war is an epic @!$%#ing failure you will never win the war mondo 8)...Just like prohibition never worked in the 30s you narcs tried and failed..

To much money to be made by both sides 8) Here in California it's an infraction a small ticket 8)

hophead is heroin addict not a pot head.

huge difference

@Big Al-369306

Well you're the one whining about Obammy. Read it and weep, dude.

lol... :D

And frankly I don't care if the so-called "war on drugs" needs to be 'won' or not. It just need to be fought, that's all.

To much money to be made by both sides 8) Here in California it's an infraction a small ticket 8)

There are other things in life besides money and your self-indulgence, pal.

hophead is heroin addict not a pot head.

huge difference

Not in my book they're not. And my book is still the law.

~

You now have my permission to continue crying.

;)

that's kinda the point...most of us aren't crying. in fact, i'm smoking me a nice fat bowl here. hey mongo, this one is dedicated just for you....hold on a minute, i'm going to hold you in my thoughts and take a hit...oh yeah...that hit the spot...gonna take another hit...mmm....tastes so good...way better than beer, that's for sure...lol, look at that, i'm not crying. well isn't that a crying shame. nah, it isn't.

you definitely have my permission to keep crying. i'm smoking a bowl...i love smoking me a bowl....some nice kush and watching a whiner whine makes my day...and nobody can do a @!$%#ing thing about it, bitch.

I'm sure you are, joe4blower. But you better hide in the closet because my friends over at the DEA would be most interested in you.

Just tell me where you're at so they can come by and you can try your whiny bitch philosophy on them. Life will be so much easier for you if you do.

See, I think you'd like my friends over at the DEA. They can be very polite to dope fiends if they want to. Who knows, they might even be able to teach you to be a grownup someday. Wouldn't that be nice?

lol... :D

lol...your dea buddies don't need that info. they can find me easy right through here...and i'm looking forward to seeing your "dea" buddies.

loading another bowl...

lol... :D

Hey, I hear they have great orange jumpsuits you can wear in jail. My DEA buds can help you out on that, ya know

Or would you rather have Joe Arpaio pink?

more lol... :D

The Corrections Corporation of America's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission read very much like the documents of a slave-trader. Investors are warned that profits would go down if the demand for prisoners declines. That is, if the world's largest police state shrinks, so does the corporate bottom line. Dangers to profitability include "relaxation of enforcement efforts, leniency in conviction or parole standards and sentencing practices or through the decriminalization of certain activities that are currently proscribed by our criminal laws."

The corporation spells it out: "any changes with respect to drugs and controlled substances or illegal immigration could affect the number of persons arrested, convicted, and sentenced, thereby potentially reducing demand for correctional facilities to house them." At the Corrections Corporation of America, human freedom is a dirty word.

Don't do the crime, you won't do the time.

You won't do the time, then there's no money for the corporation.

Dat simple.

DOH.

I'm glad you left too

And where would that be?

The Netherlands?

You either fight the good fight, or you wimp out, like our 'national hero' Dubya, and go hide wherever you can. Good job, bubba!

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Someone needs to look up what a Nazi is/was. I love it when folks throw that word out, as well as communist and socialist with no idea what it means.

Hey dud Bush at least left medical marijuana alone unlike the current pos in office. This douche bag pres promised us back in 08 I will not go after medical mj as long as they follow the state law... hmm he just lies when it suits him.

pathetic and he will go down as the worst president of all time.

It's just as well.

The credit card industry is a big part of our f----ed up economy. About 5% of every transaction is going to banks and processors, hurting small shopkeepers.

Use cash, screw the banks!

I got rid of my credit card machine and now only except cash and check. And I'll only except checks in 2 out of the 5 counties that I work in. Those 2 counties are very aggressive in prosecuting bad check writers and they recover your funds for you.

I agree with most on the intrusive nature our government is taking. We need to start by repealing the Patriot Act (I've never seen a law that is so opposite of it's name). Then, have marijuana removed from the schedule 1 drug list, where cocaine and opium are listed. Only then can there be any discussion about legalization.

or we can just start a revolution. would be less messy than the last 70 plus decades...

oh well at least my state is voting on legalization...so is oregon...i think cali...so the west coast is a solid lock for legalization, hopefully. can't wait to see how the feds react then...their "quiet" war on the people will become very public indeed...and loud. everyone knows how they like to solve problems with bullets...after all, remember what al capone once said..."you can get more with a gun and soft words than soft words alone..."

Use cash, screw the banks!

It would be nice if that would actually work, but they just find more and other ways to take your money. If you have been on an airplane within the past few years, you would notice the tendency for the CC only policy when trying to purchase things in flight. The same thing is seen at a lot of utility companies, stores, restaurants, etc. The excuse of oh it costs us more money for the labor of actually counting the money so we prefer CC's instead is just more attempts to steer us to a paperless society.

The greed of the banks wont stop until people decide to vote with their feet and their wallet. Some of the stores have said that the banks charge them a penalty or extra fee unless they do x amount of business via CC so that also feeds into the problem. Banks make far more money off of CC's and electronic banking than they do having to count paper money, so it is in their best interest to push that mindset of plastic in any manner that they can.

It will take a large change in the idea of plastic being easy money that so many people and businesses exhibit today. People will have to vote with their feet in large enough numbers to affect the bottom line before banks or businesses will take notice. This will not be quick or easy to change but it can be changed if enough people are willing to practice a little patience and curb their selfish attitudes that cause far too many people to buy it now and worry about paying for it later. Well, maybe it wont be possible to change after all.

lol...in other words, we're outsourcing money with cc's...

FEDUP_STL, both cocaine and opium are in schedule II, not schedule I.

David, I agree. While it sucks to be limiting credit cards just because someone in the JD has a boner to kill marijuana medicine, most people should be using cash anyway (I do almost exclusively). An exception though is debit cards which I assume are also swept up in this stupid ban.

Think about credit cards what you want, but if I ran a med pot shop I'd rather not make myself into an even bigger robbery target by being forced to do everything in cash.

They have plenty of cash on hand already. I think the security cameras are probably a bigger deterrent than credit cards.

Welcome to the ultra conservative world where they tout freedom then take away any freedoms you may want. Just wait until after Romney is elected President, we won't even be allowed to curse in private!

This is fascism with corporations in bed with the government.

Plain and simple.

Conservatives, Blue? Really gonna play that "I'm a clueless dope" card? Let me enlighten you, sir. Cali okayed medical mary jane. It is the Fed's, ahem Eric Holder and/or Tim Geitner, pushing this directive. In case you missed it...they're Democrats!

no indeed not. eric holder was with the bush administration. obama dropped the ball by trying to hold out an olive branch in the spirit of bipartisanship and keeping him on...he should've been working with other republicans, not bush's republicans...

Bush's AG's were Ashcroft 1st term, Gonzales 2nd term. Olive branch my eye. Bush bashing is so old, Joe.

And that other guy, Mukasey(sp)

Holder briefly served as Acting Attorney General under President George W. Bush until the Senate confirmed Bush's nominee John Ashcroft.^[14]

As Deputy Attorney General, Holder advised Reno about how far to go in the Justice Department's use of the Independent Counsel statute. Reno made the decision to permit Kenneth Starr to expand his investigation into the Lewinsky affair, leading to Clinton's impeachment.^[8]

i know, i know...i wiki'd it, but it shouldn't be too hard for you to disprove this statement then, bryan...

Holder only became Acting Attorney General after the retirement of the actual one. He was, after all, the Deputy Attorney General. Yet, he was appointed to that office by none other than "Slick Willy" Clinton.

So, the cold, hard reality is that Bush was stuck with him until he could get someone else in the post. Even this was not an easy task considering that the Democrats tried their best to prevent the nomination of Ashcroft. You can't blame Bush for that one. Holder was not kept in anything. He was appointed to his office by Obama, and not as a favor to Bush. Bush wanted anyone but Holder in that office, as evidenced by the nominations during each term.

It doesn't matter who the AG is it's who is telling him what to do and we all know Obama is pulling his strings... His promise to the American people back in 08 was I will not go after medical mj and for the most part it was quiet but now that election year is back he goes back on his word

lying pos

I neglected to mention that Holder only served as Acting Attorney General for 12 days of Bush's first term. it would have been less or none had Democrats not opposed the nomination.

With Ashcroft's confirmation, Mr. Bush's Cabinet is filled, just 12 days after
he took office.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/01/29/politics/main267937.shtml?source=search_story

I got kicked out of the parking lot of a local hospital for smoking. They made me leave the hospital property altogether to have a cigarette. It's that bad for you. And it's legal. At the very same place, a doctor in that hospital could prescribe me marijuana. They actually think people should use it. Yet, cigarettes can bought everywhere and marijuana has to be obtained from some back alley thug and you get you put prison if the police catch you. This all makes TONS of sense.

Z, you do realize you don't have to smoke pot? You could bake it into brownies and eat it, for instance.

For who? Obama is cracking down on medical marijuana, and I doubt a republican will support it.

Debtfree,

You are correct. Someone is making a lot of money. It has been estimated that the illegal drug trade brings in $25 to $40 Billion into Mexico each year. Most of that money is pure profit. It is more profit than Mexico earns from its legal trade with the US. If the drugs became legal, market forces would drive down the profit significantly.

Al-3776074

Why are you still smoking mexican weed?

Gary Johnson would be a good bet.

If the feds used their brains (fat chance, huh!) and legalized it nationwide, just the taxation alone would take a big chunk of the deficit away. But...there are no brains in Washington even though the Pes was a big pot-head in his college days!

CatWhisperer said "For who? Obama is cracking down on medical marijuana, and I doubt a republican will support it."

That's why we need more people to vote Libertarian. Otherwise, your choices are to vote for the party that wants to take a lot more of a your money and a little bit more of your freedom, or vote for the other party that only wants to take a little bit more of your money and a lot more of your freedom.

Otherwise, your choices are to vote for the party that wants to take a lot more of a your money and a little bit more of your freedom, or vote for the other party that only wants to take a little bit more of your money and a lot more of your freedom.

And at any given time, either party fits into either scenario.

Why are you still smoking mexican weed?

most likely they're not. while mexican cartels do make a considerable profit from marijuana, they do not supply most of america's bud. i'd hazard a guess of maybe 1/4 of all bud in america is mexican...maybe even less...most of us buy locally grown bud...i personally have known all my growers, no middleman for me...

Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop

Contrasting government figures for traditional crops -- like corn and wheat -- against the study's projections for marijuana production, the report cites marijuana as the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three cash crops in 30.

The study estimates that marijuana production, at a value of $35.8 billion, exceeds the combined value of corn ($23.3 billion) and wheat ($7.5 billion).

"The fact that marijuana is America's No. 1 cash crop after more than three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure," says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington D.C., a group that focuses on removing criminal penalties for marijuana use.

Kampia, whose comments were included in the study's press release, adds, "Our nation's laws guarantee that 100 percent of the proceeds from marijuana sales go to unregulated criminals rather than to legitimate businesses that pay taxes to support schools, police and roads."

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2735017&page=1#.T6caZMVI5ZM

If they legalize pot then the drug dealers have won. At least that's what the anti-marijuana forces tell us. You see, the drug dealers aren't in business to make money. They are really like missionaries and they just want to convert everyone to pot and to get everyone high, profit or not. That's the logic of the drug war, and if you don't understand it, then you've just been smoking too much weed.

Congress proposes bills like HR2306, and others that have been proposed the last couple of years, only to be held up in committee by people like Lamaar Smith (R), Texas. Voting for Anyone other than Republicans is even more important for your legislature, than it is for President. If you want legalization.

Bush left medical mj alone in his tenure, I don't remember Bush going after the medical shops here in California. This all just started in Oct of 2011 when Obama changed his mind and told Holder to bring out the Gestapos

If you don't believe that the marijuana trade is a criminal activity whose only reason for existence is money, try breaking into a drug dealer's pot field, unarmed, and harvesting. Just be sure to leave a note for your next of kin.

I'm voting for a libertarian or Ron Paul if he runs independent.

I wouldn't bother. Ron Paul would be no more than a lame duck president who would be unable to work with Congress.

In this election, a vote for anyone other than the Republican candidate is a vote for Obama. The numbers are too close for it to be otherwise.

I would prefer to remove all Republicans and all Democrats from public office for a couple decades to teach them a lesson but America is too politically charged and divided to accomplish that, so it is a matter of voting for the lesser of the two evils. In elections like that a vote for anyone other than the lesser of two evils is a vote for the Democrats.

You mean to tell me, I can't use my credit card that I pay for, to buy pot, but I can use my welfare card, that the taxpayers pay for to gamble at the casino or bail my a$$ out of jail. This makes complete f*cking sense. Stupid damn Govt. We have a bunch of idiots running the country.

Earth to right-wingers: It's the Obama administration that's putting these restrictions on medical marijuana, in yet another attempt to prove they're not liberals at all. Bite the hand that feeds you, much?

Oh, and pot isn't addictive. TMYK.

chuck-3392754 Dude, you are a typical stereotype moron. I'm on SSD cause of a loss of both legs. Show me your sources and statistics on what you are saying before you jump in and make an unfounded statement like that! Selfish MORON!

How about me saying I hope you have an accident one day that removes your appendages and see how quick you are to sign up for SSD!

Where,s your facts bro? You no how hard it is to get approved for SSD? It took me going into kidney failure so why dont you shut your pie hole you ignorant A hole

script Good point for Chuck the moron. SS denied my disability because, according to their unfavorable claim letter, and I quote; "The loss of a limb is not considered a disability." I paid them for over 40 years and that's what they told me. I hired an attorney specializing in SSD and finally got it. Many folks who are lazy know how to "play" the system and they are not deserving but the system is broken too, thus allowing freeloaders to claim it.

Took me 6 years to get SSD. Judge told me, "Just because you have ALS doesn't mean you are disabled".

Azzhole put me thru hell. Was actually homeless for a while, after burning thru my life savings.

You would think I was trying to access HIS money.

...but back more on subject...

Time to de-fund the banks. Move your money to a local credit union. Start paying for things with cash. Make every effort to remove their title, "too big to fail". Once they are small enough to fail... let them.

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Hopefully Obama will do some cabinet cleaning after he gets reelected. Tim and Eric need to go away.

That's the whole idea.

Make it a cash business and it will get robbed CONSTANTLY thereby making it a big crime scene and the cops can claim medical pot causes CRIME.

Gives them an excuse to shut down marijuana clinics.

I think it'll take a Supreme Court judgment or a complete overhaul of our federal representatives before that happens.

You can't overhaul the federal reps. Companies raking in billions of dollars per year in legal pharmaceuticals have lobbyists all over the place making sure the people you voted into office will never legalize pot. If it ever got out that a few bucks worth of pot could replace someone's Xanax, Paxil, Prozac, and Wellbutrin, Big Pharm would be very unhappy. Money makes it all go around, citizen.

Cat:

If the states legalize it the feds are up the proverbial smelly creek. They do not have the manpower to enforce it at the local level, that has traditionally been done by the states. Ergo there will be no enforcement at all and nobody makes a dime out of legalization, not even the cartels.

Yeah, because it's so much worse to use a natural medicine which never killed anyone than a pharmaceutical which makes billions for its manufacturer and comes with a list of side effects as long as your arm, usually including "death".

t45: is "an abused bunch crap" a technical term? Either way, I'd love to see the statistics backing up your comment. I'll wait.

to tactical45

you were abused by your mother

and you are an iodiot

tactical45 Your wrong there guy/gal. Medical MJ has been proven to help chemotherapy patience who have no appetite, nausia and drive after treatment. Anorxia patients benefit from use in controlled studies. It had been proven to help those with nerve issues, such as neuropathy and fibromyalgia. Also it has been used in studies of dimentia and alzheimer patients and has seen great success in stalling the onset of each. Do a little more diligent research on these and other studies and you'd be surprised what you find.

Do not waste your time Nj trying to explain the benefits 8) to people who are just too thick headed to learn for themselves.. They love the smell of there leaders crap be it Repub or Demo...Both of these ass-clown parties are a abomination and the main reason we are struggling to just make ends meet.

Please let me when the last time this government did something good for us really really want to know.

@dave sure its easy, your probably up on the pot news...

It was no secret that over half of the shops were not filing taxes or had improper filings.

There in NM a guy got his dog medical MJ card.

His point was that more people want to legalize it just to get high than the actual people that want to use it for good.

Also for the people that talk about cigs or alcohol, cigs don't cause loss of judgement (though the addiction can), as well we can test for how 'drunk' one is making it illegal to use to much.

What test do they have in place that we can use to see if someone is to high to operate a vehicle? Not to mention the THOUSANDS of work related accidents each year that happen because someone is to high.

What system is there in place to actually do anything about the legalization. All I hear is legalize it, with no plan....

marijuana does not make you have any loss of judgment...

joe420er,

"marijuana does not make you have any loss of judgment..."

In my experience it does alter your sense of time and distance. Have you ever noticed how when you are stoned, just walking a short distance from point A to point B, it seems to take forever to reach point B? That has been my experience at least. Maybe it affects different people in different ways.

really? that's what you meant? the way you left it sounded like if someone smoked a bowl, they'd be eating peoples faces in no time flat...and yeah, it does affect people differently. those who are experienced users have no coordination problems whatsoever, including judging distance. those who are just starting to smoke it up for the first time do have some problems sometimes, but those are extremely short-term effects...like, a couple of days or less...

joe420er,

"really? that's what you meant? the way you left it sounded like if someone smoked a bowl, they'd be eating peoples faces in no time flat..."

It's odd how you can come to such a conclusion from what I posted. I was simply reflecting on my own personal experience of how marijuana affects the sense of time and distance, and you concluded from that that it would cause people to eat faces. I said nothing about eating anyone's face. How in the world did you arrive at such a conclusion? It was certainly not from my post that you got that idea.

i know, but a "loss of judgment" can really describes a wide spectrum of, well, loss of judgment. i just went with the worse case scenario type of thing...i would've described it as a loss of coordination, etc...however i just re-read the whole thread and now realize that i was originally replying to elitewolverine's comment, who first mentioned "loss of judgment"...i guess when you chimed in i thought you had originally said it first, which is why i said "that's what you meant?" sorry, i got you guys mixed up. i thought you were explaining why you said "loss of judgment" when you really didn't say it originally...

joe420er,

"i guess when you chimed in i thought you had originally said it first, which is why i said "that's what you meant?" sorry, i got you guys mixed up. i thought you were explaining why you said "loss of judgment" when you really didn't say it originally..."

OK. Thanks for the clarification. Your response to my post didn't make much sense to me originally, but now I understand.

yeah, sorry again. ;^)

now i just read the whole shebang again instead of looking for who said what originally, and have to say, recreational users do not kill anyone on the roads. they have no higher incidents of fatal car accidents than non-users. in other words, it is just as dangerous to drive sober as it is to drive stoned.

also, there are already over 40 million recreational users here in america. most of them are already smart enough not to come into work stoned. just like you're smart enough not to go into work drunk. not everyone follows those rules, but most of us do, don't we...so with legalization there wouldn't be higher incidents of work related accidents...

plus it doesn't matter if it was legalized. the stigma will still always be there among employers, friends, families, peers, co-workers, etc. there won't be a sudden rise of like, from 20% of the population tokin it up to 98% of the population all of a sudden. people like elite only imagine the worse case scenario, which isn't always going to happen...usually.

(also, when elite mentioned loss of judgment he also implied it was similar to being drunk, which i took to be a bit outlandish, and so i replied in an outlandish way, so yeah, i guess my remark kinda came from somewhere out of the left field...lol, sorry...)

joe420er,

I'm not opposed to legalization of marijuana. In fact, I'm all for it. I'm not a regular "pot-head", but I have used the substance a few times in the distant past, and I don't find it to be in any way worse than alcohol, and in many respects it is probably less harmful than alcohol and can even have beneficial medical uses. I don't know of any medical benefits from using alcohol other than as alcohol swabs for killing bacteria before an injection.

BRAVO!!

Actually, it is the liquor companies that pay congresscritters the most to prevent legal pot.

If you can stop at the local convenience store and pick up a legal joint on the way home and after dinner have a little toke and a good time with the old lady and wake up with no hangover --- you aren't going to buy their whiskey or beer.

You can vote out the offending reps, but the lobbyists remain. Those in power are put there by people with deep pockets. Obama got high. Clinton got high. Bush Jr got high. Did that change anything? Of course not. Big Pharm does not want pot legal and they pay millions every year to make sure it doesn't happen.

yep...there's over 28,000 registered lobbyists up there in d.c....and only less than 550 representatives running the government. not hard to figure out the math...

...textile, paper, pharma, alcohol, tobacco, religion... All these industries and more, are funding NOT legalizing cannabis/hemp. It's a good return on their investment. And our politicians are like baby chicks with their necks stretched and their mouths wide open.

wonder if there's any hemp lobbyists over there...? it's already a 300-400 million dollar industry here, they should be lobbying d.c....many states have legalized farming industrial hemp but federal law still prohibits it because they say it's still the same plant as marijuana...our farmers could use the money, can you imagine how much our american companies are paying to import foreign hemp if the industry is already a 300-400 million dollar industry? why isn't our government allowing industrial hemp?

i'm not really a conspirancy nut kind of guy, but i did have a thought the other day...there was this article that said israeli scientists had created a marijuana plant without the high...they were saying how this could be a major thing for medical marijuana patients. anyway, in the comments section someone said, "this is just...hemp. no biggie."

that's actually a hell of a revelation...i never thought of that! it's true...marijuana is high in THC and low in CBD's. hemp is high in CBD's and low in THC. can hemp not be medicinal? i already know that the hemp hurds can be made into a lotion that has the ability to stop MRSA. i also know our own government holds a patent on medical CBD's. yeah, that's as far as i got in my thoughts...can't really see why the government would keep it illegal unless they had some kind of plan to do with medical marijuana and that includes hemp, especially when you consider the levels of CBD's in hemp which are extremely medical...so what's going on here...? what am i missing?

wow i just did a search and so far i found one article that said there's only one lobbyist in d.c. and that was from 2011...

oh my god, hell yes, way to go dr. bronner...did anyone see this article? dr. bronner of dr. bronner's hemp soap fame was at d.c. protesting the illegality of hemp by pulling up near the white house and erecting a cage so cops couldn't get at him right away and he had 7 hemp plants with him and started pressing oil from it...and was planning on using it as butter on bread and passing it to bystanders when they finally arrested him. jeez, and that wasn't even medical marijuana or anything...man i'm gonna seed this article...jeez and it was legal canadian hemp grown by legal standards...wtf...

i wonder how much of our taxpayers' money went into that...

If you can stop at the local convenience store and pick up a legal joint on the way home and after dinner have a little toke and a good time with the old lady and wake up with no hangover --- you aren't going to buy their whiskey or beer.

Every pothead I ever knew also drank whiskey and beer.

Thanks Joe420er...the Dr. Bronner article was great!

The day of freedom approaches...all cannabis advocates unite and prepare for deliverance!

Legalize it. End prohibition. STOP the insanity.

Ah Giuseppe88 do you not see that your congress man/womans vote for any law that makes this change are already bought off by the drug companies and many others who supply them big bucks for their election/re-election campaign so no matter what the people want their vote has already been bought and paid for by the drug companies and others. Maybe one day you will understand when the issue close to you gets voted down because your congress person has been paid to vote the other way.

There probably are enough votes to legalize nationwide. I doubt the federal government would allow that vote to happen though.

Ignorant ignorant ignorant

Giuseppe88 Since when should the feds tell the states what they can and cannot do Joseph? If the people of the state vote for it what business do the feds have trampling on their rights?

Check your 9th and 10th amendment rights at the door.

so the balance of power between the individual states and the federal government means nothing to you. lets just throw the rest of the constitution away. oh wait its made of hemp so it should be destroyed anyway.

So only the fed knows what is right for the people, not the people themselves right...?

I suffer from severe neoropathy, so badly that I lost both my legs below the knee 4 years ago. I take pharmacuiticals,Lyrica, Cymbalta, Limotrogine every day and the pain does not go away. I've been a research subject in trials for Murcain injections to see if that helps, 4 inch needle injecting me in 30 different locations 3 time a week...no help. I turned to MJ a little over a year ago, just a couple of puffs each night before bed and it is the only thing that allows me to sleep pain free. I told my doctor about it and the doc told me that she knew it had medicinal properties but because it is illegal in Texas it cannot be prescribed. If it was legal I am sure she would prescribe it. The problem with the federal government is the pharmacutical companies control them, not the other way around. If herbal or miniral medicine practices became legal in this country, those big pharmacutical monoliths would be put out of business,

Case in point. My Father-in-law was diagnosed with liver cancer in 1991. He refused the normal, barbaric chemo and radiation treatments and was given 6 months and no more then a year. He would travel to Mexico every 3 months and stay at a clinic that specialized in herbal and miniral treatment...all on hs dime because med insurance doesn't cover it. Well, a year went by, then two, then nine. He passed away, at home, fully aware and with family around him 9 years later.

Case in point 2. A close lady friend of mine was diagnosed with breast cancer in her left breast 3 years ago. She researched the internet and found many herbal and miniral treatments for it. Her doctor was pissed because he would not get any kickbacks from the pharmacutical companies he prescribed for. A year and a half later, her cancer was gone...COMPLETELY gone.

So... prostitution in Nevada is actually illegal? It's against federal law. So when is Holder going to start raiding THEM.

Interesting to see which state laws the fed picks and chooses to (not)override.

I also see people yell, "states rights!", while in the same breath yell, "it's against federal law!".

Could still use your debit card though, even if it subs as a credit card! Don't see how the fed can stop you from doing that. It's like writing a check only cash to the vendor is immediate.

It's also great for when your wife is on her hell week 8) it really helps with cramps and pain..

It's also great for when you cant sleep (insomnia) take a puff and guess what LIGHTS OUT.

It's also great for someone who has a golf ball size tumor in her head and she is doing chemo 8( she actually gets hungry 8) and it helps make the treatments bearable.

This can go on and on but don't take my word for it.

Giuseppe88 Guess you don't know what the 9th and 10th ammendments are. Put it this way, if these ammendments were not included in the Constitution, it would have never been ratified. To give you an understanding of these ammendments, read the following:

Both the 9th and 10th were intended to be rules of law that the federal government cannot exercise powers not granted to it. If you are challenging a federal law in federal court, and you are arguing that the law violates one of your "rights," then you do not have to explain which part of the Constitution refers to or describes the right you are talking about. The burden is on the federal government to justify its law and to prove that it does have the power in the Constitution to enact that law.

The reason that those amendments affect us today is because the Supreme Court is still in the business of sometimes invoking the federalism principle when it strikes down certain federal laws. There are certain laws which the Court has disallowed Congress to make but those laws were not plausibly authorized by any of Congress's enumerated powers. But the Court's ruling does not prevent any or all states from making a law similar to the ones that the Court has struck down. For example, the Court struck down a federal law which prohibited carrying a gun near a school. The Court said that it makes no sense to claim that carrying a gun near a school has something to do with Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce. However, just because the Court struck down that federal law does not mean that the Court would also strike down state laws which also prohibit carrying guns near schools. State laws which do the same thing are still permissible laws under the Constitution.

So, when the Court strikes down a federal law in the name of the 9th and 10th amendments, the Court is disempowering only one group of American lawmakers -- Congress. The state legislatures are not disempowered by the U.S. Supreme Court under those kinds of rulings. Hence, the Court is returning power from the federal government to the states.

Doctors that prescribe medical cannabis aren't doing any harm. It helps these people, why can't you see that?

James,

"Doctors who prescribe "medical" marijuana are breaking their Hippocratic oath to do no harm."

Maybe. But what about doctors who perform abortions, sex change operations, cosmetic surgery, organ transplants and any of a number of other ethically questionable operations depending on one's religion or personal philosophy? It seems the Hippocratic Oath is not worth the paper it is written on anymore.

According to your logic, doctors have been breaking their Hippocratic oath for years by prescribing addictive painkillers and antidepressants that can actually kill you and have a much higher addiction and abuse rates. But hey, the government says it's OK, so they must be fine!

Let's see the statistical evidence behind this claim that prescribing marijuana is "doing harm." Sources, James?

James the Doctor told you what would happen if you skipped your meds, now go take them and go to bed.

The 10th amendment would argue against you.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Marijuana will always be illegal according the federal law which is all that matters.

Yes, because we all know that politicians are more qualified to make medical decisions than doctors are. I can think of no one I'd rather have taking out my appendix than my state congressmen. Everybody voted for him right? He must know his stuff.

Josh92 Good point Josh! My ex-wife (hence the ex part) was a pain pill junkie. Thought everything was wrong with her. Bought pain killers off the streets. She could go through 120 Somas in two weeks so she had to resort to the streets for more. She died 7 years ago, age 45, of an overdose!

Sounds similar to the liquor stores LMAO