Drainass,

AE nailed it. You're one sick ass person. I don't even know what the hell you're trying to say. You don't make any sense.

As far as issues, tell me a bigger issue than a mother that just lost her three children. Poor kids man, R.I.P.

You're an @!$%# dude or dudette. Whatever the hell you are. Guess this post satisfies your hunger. You just wanted to see everyones reaction to your f ucked up comment.

Now, go back down, then drag that rock back over your only way out. Idiot.......

drainbramage is a troll-ignore that pos!!!

He must be a wacko! He was drunk! He...................! NO EXCUSES, it's very simple.

LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE!!!!!! WTF!!

lord, this is the 4th story that I've seen in the past week, Then some stupid idiots start talking about abortion rights and welfare and saying it's the presidents fault. It's just sick twisted people, they need to be gassed.

What war on women?

Google Aaron Schaffhausen. Chickensh!t little Piece of crap mommas boy. Saw pictures of their 3 beautiful smiling kids. Kill the piece of sh!t. he doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us. I don't like getting this pissed off so early in the morning!

We can hash and rehash this horrible event. The real question is: How can we prevent this from happening again today? It seems that everyday, I read of an event of similar horror, and yet they continue on and on. How can we stop these monstrous acts? I'll be the first to say that I don't know.

My ex was a mean, violent man. I wouldn't have put it past him to have done the same. However, the courts/judge ordered visitation, and I was stuck with the order. Fortunately, the craphead ex finally abandoned our kids for his life of leisure and fun. He never paid his support, either, but in the end, we survived, and all is okay with us. Him, not so much. (Karma is a wonderful thing.) Nevertheless, we were put in harm's way by the courts. I wonder if this was part of this horror story of these children's murder?

None of us has a crystal ball to see into the future to know that terrible events, such as these, will occur. We must be ever vigilant to protect the helpless, as these now lost girls. Like I said, I don't know "how," only that we must.

I don't buy that it's a psychotic break, either. If that's the case, we have far too many psychos loose in this world. This was a mean and deliberate act. He knew exactly what he was doing and why. I can think of a number of punishments for this piece of murderous trash, but none is legal in this country. Perhaps we should change the law to make the punishment fit the crime. If the penalty is equal to the crime, perhaps criminals would rethink their violent tendencies. It would be a preventative measure. (I also think that death penalties should be broadcast for all to watch, not unlike hangings in the earlier days.)

I'm open to suggestions, but the bottom line is that these behaviors MUST stop. They are totally unacceptable. Their perpetrators must be punished in such a way that the rest of the populace will understand that these actions are wrong.

My deepest sympathies to the mother. I hope I never know her pain and anguish. May she find comfort, (but I don't know how.)

Hmmm! I wonder if there's another side to your story but let's hope you're safe and the kids too.

Just another drunk, all the money he wasted on boos he could of spent on his precious daughter's and had a fun filled summer but nooo" why be a father..

They really need to write a story on cowards and demand they kill themselves first.

Vincent, How many times were you sewed up from being stabbed by your ex? I've got some scars. How many times did you have your broken bones set? I've got x-rays. Hmmm. Yeah, that sex-for-money scheme must be working for you very well. This story, and many others, show that violence happens. (Women do it, too, I'm not making excuses.) However, when evidence is given, the courts should be listening, not just following some set of arbitrary rulings that say visitation is this to that. The door swings both ways, and I seriously doubt that this is the first time the father in this story was violent.

N. O.--we are quite safe and well. The kids are now grown (in their 30s), and they are excellent people and parents. They are independent, smart, admired, competent and well employed. They both are sought out by their peers and employers. I couldn't be more happy with them. (BTW, their father deserted them entirely by the time they were 5 and 6. So being in a single-parent household wasn't too bad for their upbringing.)

drain...and yet you clicked on the story...seems to me you're pissed because there weren't more details...

You'e a loser...

ex...WTF? Go to the political forums and stay out of these, but before you do, take your meds...

Vincent:

Wow, you must know zapper personally to say such an a-hole statement. Not every woman is like the women you know.

That being said, what an awful story. Those poor children, and mother. I hope they punish him to the full extent of the law.

drain livin up to 'it's' name

Troll

i have no doubt that the courts exacerbated zapper's problem. and, most likely this tragic story. they always do. they are comprised mostly of retired divorce "lawyers", whose inhuman tactics designed to bleed people's life savings into their own accounts, and pretend they are doing someone a great service in doing so, often result in violence. they deal in hatred, connivance, bullying, and pain -- all designed to protract proceedings, torture the poor people caught up in the system and pad their own wallets. in all too many cases of violence, there is some divorce lawyer behind the scene, who tortured the unstable individual with his/her customary bag of tricks until they snapped.

This is disgusting. But Zapper, don't stress yourself trying to figure out how to stop it. It's happened since time began, and will continue to happen, at least until the time that 'someone' is watching everyone, 24/7.

Vincent

You're way off base guy...but then you COULD be one of those vindictive losers who disparage/harass the women who have the good sense to dump you.

Yes women commit violence -- and that's NOT OK -- but they do NOT kill/injure/hospitalize others near to the same extent men do (look up FBI murder statistics for proof). So Zapper's point, that granting visitation to fathers with a history or propensity of violence like her ex is a big mistake and can lead to tragedy as we hear in this article.

Vincent has issues with women; I've read many of his posts. He's not always wrong but he definitely has issues with women. Take a look in the mirror sweetheart and evaluate your behavior in life, and when youre done with that evaluate your poor choices in women. It must be hard to be such a powerless victim in life. I bet even you wouldn't want to deal with you.

One reason why these things keep happening is because of the substandard mental health system in this country, which is a direct result of the substandard health care system. The father may not have lived a psycho life, but he could have used counseling. However, murdering ones children does qualify as a psychotic break.

The universities of the world have spent millions training psychiatrists and psychologists ever since psychology became a college discipline at the beginning of the last century. For what? Where are these people? And one of the top ten highest paid professions in the world. For what? So if no one cares, how can money really be the problem now?

Last night I saw on the news where a Woman was mad at her cheating husband and fed her two small children ,one 4months old, car wiper fluid. She then proceeded to tape up the windows and turn on the gas, killing the children.

Both of these perps. need to be put in g-pop and see what happens.

I'd say that if Vincent would stop picking up his dates from shady street corners, his views on women might become more well-adjusted.

Or, it could be one of those vicious circle things. He doesn't trust women, women pick up on that and reject him, which makes him despise women even more. Rinse and repeat.

Ya never know someones true state of mind.....People get pushed to the limits that only they know then snap....Its another sad case for the kids who paid the price for dad not being able to hold it together....My condolences to the rest of the family, who now have to bury these children......

Of course this is tragic. I could comment on how horrible this killing was but what do you say about something so insane?

The one thing I can comment on is how often these sensational stories make the national "news" almost every day. Why? These kinds of killing have happened almost daily throughout recorded history and are certainly nothing new. Well, I clicked on the story, you clicked on the story... it sells. It is the age-old fascination with the macabre that the media exploits to make a buck. I guess to me the real question is why do we all want to be informed of every sickening act perpetrated in a country of 300 million people? I guess it's human nature to rubber-neck an accident or read about a heinous murder... and it's human nature to exploit that tendency to make $$$. All media does it not just MSNBC.

I hate my sons father, but I would never in a million years imagine harming my child just because of something his dad did or didn't do. Now, his wife on the other hand, I can see her trying to harm my child just because it isn't hers and she hates me that much. (they weren't together when I was with him, he left me for her.)

I'll never understand how people can harm children. It makes me hurt.

@zapper asks "How can we prevent this from happening'?

Let me share my thoughts based on having lived not all that far from River Falls:

NW Wisconsin is largely an enclave of little to no education; poverty; extremely narrow world view; misogyny; greed; and cruelty to women, kids, heck, any form of living thing. There are pockets that have barely made it to the 20th century let alone the 21st. It has been so isolated for so long that anything new ~ people, ideas, industry ~ is deemed bad without examination. The exception being social misfits who refuse to accept mores, norms, and laws. Many municipal and county governments are so corrupt, they make Illinois look prim and proper. At least cities like Chicago don't try to skate the pretense that politicans, cops, et. al. are pure as the driven snow.

I am certain there are other pockets of social pathology around the country just as bad.

As long as women and children are considered and treated as chattel, these horror stories will go on. One county judge uses this standard for domestic abuse and violence : unless there are blood, broken bones, or at least bruises, it didn't happen. Most such cases are pleaded down to disorderly conduct and the abuser walks. I wonder how many time Jessica Schaffhausen was denied protection for herself and her daughters. Did she hide the nightmare they lived for lack of social support?

I have no easy answers but these questions need to be asked : How do we ensure that all members law enforcement and the court system take domestic abuse seriously? How can we rid society of county sheriffs who call the domestic abuse shelter demanding to know who has sought refuge there? How do we form a support network in isolated areas? How do we empower women to stand up to the good ol' boys' club when they are economically and socially vulnerable?

Now, there will be those, no doubt, who will rip me for the picture I have painted. That's fine. They may be very fortunate to not have seen what I have seen.They may not have stood as an advocate for vulnerable women and children. They may not have driven back roads and witnessed the squalor.

This story seems like another "honor" killing to me. People said Muslim live in 11 centuries law, but it seems to be Christian lives in 16 centuries law. Both are equally outdated and reply on centuries old book for guidance.

I am saddened by this storey. I believe the systems in Wisconsin are not pro mom or pro child. They are pro father even if the father is mentally ill. There are many people that can fake their way through the system and our lawyers, GALS, judges, and police officers continue to side with males despite the fact that women and children are in danger. I have 4 children, have been physically abused by my husband, and he continues to have 50/50 custody of my kids ---- despite the fact that he has also abused them (because the Bible says it is ok). Something has to change. Someone in the system needs to take a stand and help those in need. Children should not be placed in the hands of unstable people. I am so so sad for this mom's loss and I am troubled by the number of fathers who have recently killed their children, wives, and themselves. There is something deeply wrong with our way of life and it has to change.

0.o you are way off track dude.

CuongDNguyen:

You know this family was Christian? I must have missed that in the article. Also, where do you get the sense of "honor killing" from this article? Because a father killed his daughters? I doubt it was over "honor".

I know Calico, I was thinking the same thing. Now this is going to be a popular way to kill children. I have absolutely no idea what makes someone so sick as to kill children, much less their own. Please just take yourselves out and leave these innocent souls alone. I have to stop reading these stories. It ruins the mood for the rest of the day.

Yeah they claimed she probably had pps, post pardum syndrome, so what was this guys excuse? It's a bunch of bull if they let that New York lady off on an insanity plea.

There is so much mental illness going in this world that is untreated, either because the person doesn't have access or because the person can refuse treatment. This person must have exhibited symptoms of mental illness before this incident, but now it is ok to be crazy and you can't lock up anyone for almost any reason until they kill someone.

I realize when they opened to doors to the mental illness facilities that there were those few that should never have been there but an annual eval would have solved that. Then they shut down all the facilities, usually only one left in a state that now has waiting lists. So now everyone accepts the fact that if you are mentally ill you get to run around creating chaos and misery where every you go, you don't have to get or follow treatment, you can be on the dole using drugs and alcohol and acting out whenever you want.

Yes I realize there are those who are responsible, but they are the exceptions not the rule.

This guy was crazy his family and friends would have seen the symptoms but would have dismissed them, not believing in their "sane" brains that anyone would do this type of thing.

waukone....the mission of the American mental health industry sounds great on the surface. However, in reality, what it was and has mostly been is another corrupt industry that seeks only social control and profits. It was merely the tool of the social elites (the popular folks) to control and torment the less popular (those who held different beliefs or didn't conform to our mindless, regimented worker-consumer society). If you were black, poor, deemed less "intelligent," weren't Christian, didn't work 40+++ hours a week, didn't aspire to be some elite working slave, or didn't do something the elites wanted you to do...you could be locked up for life in a nuthouse, castrated, etc.

totally agree, wau and American...my dad was severely bi-polar and I always had trouble getting hinm help when he went off his meds. The bad part was, only he could check himself in. One time when we thought we could make him go in for a few months and get the serious help he needed, they came back about 10 minutes before his court appearance saying he had to do what he did AGAIN in the SAME county before he could be put in the hospital. I tried to contact the NATIONAL mental health people, and I didn't even get a reply back.

Pathetic. Thank God he never hurt anyone.

Those NATIONAL mental health people make an awful lot of money (the doctors and the administrators, not the nurses aids).

He may have mental illness but very well could have been legally sane at the time of killing his children (knowing right from wrong). I can not see how any sane person could kill their own children, but it's been noted through time that it's happened.

My native american grandparents use to tell me stories of their great-grandparents stories of when a child was born with a defect the medicine woman/man would take the child and kill it (for lack of better words). I know this isn't the same day and age or even the same mindset because now we have services in place to help but as some of you have posted those services have dwindled and are relatively hard to get.

Too many times have I read about someone killing their kids in revenge when the other parent leaves. I wont even touch on the PPD argument above, until you have experienced it- you can't say it's not real, however, not everyone has a classic case all cases vary in severity in all mental health diagnosis.

Ages ago my pool shooting partner had dated a man that was abusive, she lost a child, and had left him. He was so hell bent on making her pay for her leaving he stalked, harassed her at her job, tried to get her fired, vandalized her home, and finally he did the unthinkable. He sent her a letter and cassette tape in the mail, and then blew his brains out. She never listened to the tape or read the letter because it started out it's your fault I am dead. The cops confiscated it and she refused to read or listen to anymore because he left a note saying that if he had ever died it was because of my friend. Of course the cops are going to have investigate her even if it looked like a suicide. She went through hell and too this day lives with what he did. She always believed had she not miscarried and gave birth to his baby (which gave her the courage to leave), he would have killed his child, possibly her, and then himself.

Manyyyyy parents are divorced and share custody, and the children grow up fine and don't end up dead. What the difference between these kinds of couples I can not even speculate the difference. So many variables and situations can cause the equation to be not linear.

Be glad you can't relate in this situation (all we know is he gassed his kids for unknown reason), because as a counselor we tell our clients, because you can't understand/feel/see/think like this person is because you don't have the same mindset.

Where are you getting that. No where in this article or on the Internet does it say anything about his relationship with the mother.

Maybe he killed those babies cuz he hated THEM?

Thanks for using the word "maybe".

cullerco,

That's because everyone has to make up their own story as they go. There's articles that are printed out that everyone has to add politic's, religious beliefs that have nothing to do with the story in any way! It's always Obama's fault or Rigth wing / Left wing.

These idiots wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face. No idea of any FACTS, but add theirs????????

Please. Odds are he killed the kids to hurt the mother.

Wayne,

After scrolling around and reading your ridiculous comments, your above comment shows that you're a hypocrite.

You're making up "your" own stories as "you" go. Go take your meds and take a nap. Leave the comments to people who make sense.

Have a nice day..........

@wayne wilkins, congradulations you made it onto your own complaint list.

I hope they do a follow up article on what was up with the Dad other than the fact he turned himself in.

stonepipe,

That doesnt mean he is more mentally stable. Only a demented mentality would kill 3 people regardless of the reason why.

@ Creek Dog, 6dogs,

What has Wayne said that you think is wrong?! I have scrolled down too and read his comments and He painted the picture the way it is. You don't have to like his comments but I share similar opinions with him. Before you go to other countries to force your Ideals on the people, first clean up your own house and by the way, I'm an American.

Google this guy -- Aaron Schaffhausen -- there are several more articles with more detail.

They've been divorced for a year. It could have been spite or revenge on his part. It could be not wanting to pay child support.

I have a friend whose waste-of-oxygen ex tried to kill their daughters a couple of times when he decided he 'couldn't afford' them any more. Usually after the latest baby-mama had popped one out for him.

Sadly it does seem as if he was looking to hurt the mother, who really knows why he did it but it was more than likely to hurt the mom. Just my opinion...

Way off topic, but Creek Dog is a cutie.

And once again, I bring nothing to the table :D

Please do not blame yourself, bad things happen and your son would want you to be happy. Peace to you and good luck.

I pray everyday that my kids don't go before me, how in the world could a parent go on....

my only tangible fear - to outlive my children.

All else pales in comparison.

Many thanks for the kind words. Yes, it's the hardest thing I've ever lived through.

Since when is there no outrage here, grandpa? You sniffing glue. Everyone on here is sickened by this act. Geez! And by the way, it's been happening everyday forever. Just now with the internet, you hear when a bear farts in Russia. The world hasn't got any worse, the media has gotten better at covering it.

Hey, you kids! Get off my lawn!

Well GRANDMA, go read the story about the woman that was killed in Afganistan for supposedly cheating. Other stories about Honor killings in other countries and you'll see how outraged people get here about those stories about over there.

You must be on Myth with your comment and get off of it and take a stand about what's happening here in this Whacked out country FIRST. Okay GRANDMA?

See even now, your trying to sniff me instead of just sniffing yourself.

Cute dog though...........

Wayne,

First of all, speak for yourself "yall".

Secondly, why are you pointing the finger at us?! Your ranting and raging on your fellow Americans.

If you don't like it here, then get the hell out!

Your comments are ridiculous "yall". You've got too much time on your hands dude.

I think you all need to take your meds.

Somebody get a doctor! Wayne is suffering from Dementia.

@Creek Dog, meh, you're wasting your breath on ol Wayne. He's just like an annoying gnat flying around our heads. On the bright side, he's consistantly annoying.

No one said anything about other countries and religion You sound like a sick twisted person, if you don't like it here maybe you should go and live somewhere else, or crawl back into that shell you came out of, wtf is your problem

Yeah, what is grandpa's problem? 3 innocent children, Who cares what happens "overthere" this is taking place in our back-yards. So wha if a father killed his grown daughter for messing around, she knew what she was up against, she was raised to be treated like a 2nd class person, these kids did nothing to deserve the hand that they were dealt. Sure your name isn't really mustafad ali or some sh1t like that, please

Good Morning Big Red, have not seen a post from you lately. Hope you are having favorable weather. We are getting dry here. Stonepipe/Oliver man.

Good morning my Oliver friend, nice to see you! Yes, weather is cooler (was 104 last week), garden is growing and, Farmall is purring. Hope all is well with you and yours.

Gee, gramps, I wonder why no one in your family wants to come see you in the home.

Hope you don't need a transfusion, if they give you the wrong type of vinegar it may make you angry.

Wayne, WTF kind of drugs are you on? Everyone here is ready to string this father up by his balls for what he did. How is that not showing outrage over these killings?

Take your vitriol-spewing troll arse somewhere else.

Wayne...ease up. You are going to give yourself a coronary! That is some serious rage.

Srich,

That's because it is serious! There are more children killed by abuse here than anywhere else in the World! In fact child abuse here is worse than anywhere!

You should take it very serious also! And the rest of the drug addicts that have made their statements.

Now there's far more people that AGREE with me than doesn't1 So Ya'll lose the vote!

What Ya'll need to do is get off your azzez and start doing something instead of running your mouths and then go off to work everyday and not caring that crap like this happens on a daily basis's here! But will go crazy thinking if ya's hear about something in another country!

Clean up your own back yard before you stick you nose over the fence to sniff someone else's stuff!

Yess...we all know this...why are saying none of us care? Everyne is outraged over this.

Apparently your reading comprehension sucks.

Please, tell us what you would do to stop this?

And stop calling other people snobs when it's obvious you have a problem with your own social skills.

some states do, too bad he isn't in one of them

The gas chamber would be too humane for this bastard.

Steve. Missouri, maryland, arizona, colorado, and california have the gas chamber as a secondary form of execution.

Because the word freedom has been twisted away from its original meaning. You need two things in general in your life. you need freedom to do what you want, but you also need structure so what you do does not injure or cause any issues with anyone else.

But when the level of freedom we have is twisted by an obvious controlling possessive freak, then problems occur. He did not care about those children, but since it would appear that he was a controlling person, and thats a guess, and also he would have to have the idea of payback probably also, lot of people believe in payback when they get wronged, he went out of his way to hurt his wife and probably by taking the children away from her. and she will live with that for the rest of her life.

A similar thing occurs in the other one where the mother gassed her children. her life was miserable so therefore their lives were miserable. So therefore if she was going to commit suicide then she should also take the kids with her as in the depressed state she was in, her kids would only have miserable lives therefore it was not worth anyone living. Unfortunately for her they died and she lived.

For what its worth when i was growing up there were problems granted. but the family unit functioned better than it does now. I remember my father and uncles taking care of their father when he got old. Now the practice is find a reason to put em in a nursing home and get at their money now, why should i wait till they die. I NEED IT NOW>

Sounds like you got something against men. Why? is it becouse you can't get one due to looking like you've been tampered with?

I'm sure the reason she might have something against men is because 90% of the time when this horrible stuff happens it involves a man. And when some men respond to a criticism by attacking appearance it reinforces the less than stellar opinion she may hold on the way men may respond in a crisis (divorce, separation, etc.).

Gee Tea Pee - where are you getting your facts from.

Most crime by women towards me are not reported or when reported are discounted.

the 'n' did not register - does read 'men'

and no, there have been no crimes by women against me short of a broken heart or two. (which is usually a self inflicted wound anyhow)

Wasn't it in NY a few days ago that a WOMAN killed one of her kids in a similar manner?

Hey Freedom, I have no facts, I was only repeating the inanity of the statistic that Commentingbecauseican presented. The idea that I forwarded was that to attack on a personal level is not arguing a position or opinion and reinforces the negative image that women often have regarding some mens ability to cope in stressful situations that include females. ( Attacks on both genders often get downplayed and dismissed by the police until there is a tragedy.)

And truthfully, I don't feel like doing the body count to see the statistical difference. Divisiveness may be alive and well in our society, but HUMANS have vicious, predatory individuals in their ranks.

Here's a fact: 91% of women were killed by men in 2010 while only 10% of men were killed by women (FBI homicide statistics, expanded table for 2010). And Freedom, I believe virtually all murders are reported.

Wow that doesn't read right...91% of women who were murdered were killed by men...

Sorry.

ok you guys...I think it's safe to say that most kids are killed by adults...how's that??

No matter who, it shouldn't happen.

What is your problem this is not about Obama. This is about three dead children who was killed by a useless whack job of a father. I do not see how politics enter this story. Further more the hope was drained from this country before Obama ever took office.

You got that one right! Surprised nobody said anything about race, or that the family was probably on welfare. Stick to what little bit of facts were stated.

Some people should be tested to see if they are fit mentally enough to have & raise children. There are near eight billion people on this planet. And, not all if any were planned much less wanted.

Why on earth can't people wait & have a lot of fun in life so they can mature enough to have children to love & be mature & caring & be responsible.

yeah. also in New York a mother killed her 9 year old son with a hammer!! I can't image that poor child dying that way- so horrible

Dear lord. A hammer? How sick and twisted. That poor boy must have had a terrifying end. Reading the news is becoming depressing. I think I'll go hug and kiss my kids now.