Unfortunately, megalithic banks, like Goldman Sachs, have manipulated the prices of commodities in the recent past, and are likely to take advantage of depressed agriculture to further rig the market.

Disaster Capitalism at its best.

hard to grow a garden with no water

Hard to grow a garden with no land either.

Hay bales catching fire via spontaneous combustion is a long way from 'Exploding Hay Bales'. There is no explosion. And it has been the same for as long as mankind has baled hay.

If they were not baled green or wet they would not "explode" as they want to hype it.

The caption in the picture says that the reservoir is down 3.5 feet from normal levels. What are normal levels, 3.5 feet, because that lake is dried the h*ll up?

And exploding hay bales? When is the last time you heard someone say their hay exploded. Don't know what to think of that.

1974 corn $3.87 1984 $3.50 1996 corn $5.00 2011 $6.90 Oh No Now Corn is over $7

What did a Chevy truck cost in 1974?

We have all been spoiled with cheap food. Milk is cheaper than gas. Yet we willingly pay $5 a gallon for bottled water and $6 a gallon for soda pop. Get a grip, $7.20 corn and $15 soybeans this fall is not out of line.

I hope the people with automatic sprinkler systems are watched. Several years ago I was walking past the Governers mansion and the sprinklers were running. It was also raining.

I would love to get a few truckloads of this dried up mud for my garden!

Anyone knows that hay bailed too green will catch fire...they do not explode !!

And I thought my bed was experiencing a dry spell! Hi-oooh!

It was as if the profit Al-a Gore predicted this would happen many moons ago! Of course, you could chose to tune into un-reality television like Fux Commentary or its radio equal, Rush Blimbaugh show to get your free drink of Kool-aid.

Um....I was raised on a farm. Exploding hay? Fire maybe. I've never seen it, though I know it can happen. That's always amazed me.

I wonder if Timothy McVeigh tried hay bales before he moved on to the fertilizer.

...the threat of brush and grassland fires is greater this year than last because the state enough spring rain to allow vegetation to grow.

The exploding bails of hay is just another badly worded MSNBC headline to get people to click on the article. The more clicks, the more money. The genius writer of this article omitted a word somewhere in this sentence so that it makes little sense. That's the MSNBC standard...a minimum of at least one word misspelled or missing per article.

The reporter got it wrong about the hay. And wrong in every possible way. The drought has no effect on the spontaneous combustion of the hay--drier soild doesn't make the hay that was baled to wet explode. When reporters get such simple facts wrong in every possible way, what else in the story should be trusted as accurate?

Hey NeverStopAskingQuestions,

Aside from the hilarity your nickname provides when I read your posts could you do me a favor? Could you try to explain how Goldman Sachs, or any other bank, has manipulated the prices of commodities? And if you don't mind, could your explanation differentiate between the manipulations that have your panties in a wad, and those by the Obama administration through excessive spending, or the Fed, through quantitative easing?

Regards.

Hey James,

Help me out here because I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or just nutty. It's true that Mr. Gore has made many millions off of people like you, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to call him a "profit". Maybe you meant "prophet"? But it's the entirety of your post which is gibberish. Are you saying that Fox refuses to report on the drought? Or that Gore, a veritable Nostradamus, actually predicted we might have droughts?

Just so you know, I can make predictions too. Like this...There will be many more stupid posts made about this story before the day ends.

It's not that I'm a seer, really. It's just that I can read.

@ Rich

Excellent post. I predict there will be floods in the future. When it happens, everyone needs to please send me money. Thank you.

" Isn't it cute how the little liberals can spin everything into a poilitical statement...."

Are really blind enough not to know that just as many conservatives do exactly the same thing? Or is insulting people you disagree with just that important to you?

Private Rich you're a goddamn genius! You'll be a general some day!

Conservative or Liberal....we'll all be paying for this misfortune at the grocery stores REAL SOON! Heaven help us....

I'm fortunate I at least have the great and powerful republicans to blind me from shame...Just when you need them most there even bigger losers.

Drought or no drought they're still out there sticken it to you.

Drought or no drought they're still out there sticken it to you

Quit bending over.

I predict there will be floods in the future

Spellchecker are you giving odds? If so I might want some of that action.

And how is that? Because I don't see it.

Rich,

I'm glad your portfolio is getting fatter (even though the impression of making a profit changes as the dollar devaluates because of prices driven higher by speculation), but the reality is; the weather and the atmosphere runs on cycle. If you notice, there was a "dust bowl" almost 100 years ago, well 90 years ago. We have droughts on a 15 to 20 year cycle, floods at close to the same regularity. The polar cycle is more like 5 to 10 thousand years-Ice caps melt weather patterns change, then there are ice-ages.

We are within the realm of both cycles at the moment, 100 years will be here in a decade and we are rolling up on 8000 years since the last ice-age.

Just like predicting the daily weather, we can expect generalities, but there will be unexpected rainstorms and unexpected dry spells. We are not having any more droughts or dry spells than we did 100 years ago.

sonofbutch...

Corn in iowa went over $7 in 2008 and everyone started scrambling to buy asap. Verison (an ethanal producer) even went so far as to sign future contracts for corn over $7. To bad for verisun, when the markets really crashed so did corn prices. Verisun eventually had to file bankruptcy. Just bad timing on their part.

Now $7 corn is being driven by potential lack of supply.

This climate change thing is becoming hell on Earth.

kjunme...

The future can be a long ways off or it can be tomorrow. However here in iowa it is not likely to be tommorow. Hopefully this weekend. One thing for sure is that I will water my tomatoes and peppers or watch them die before I water my grass or flowers.

I bought a 60 gallon rain barrel earlier in the year, it is still bone dry.

How mad is your horse at some combustible hay!?!

Hard to grow a garden with no land either.

Container gardening is quite popular in the cities. You can also use water out of the tap or hose to water them.

It uses up surprisingly little land and water to container garden.

SonofButch- you missed my point. That is what it is now, not this fall. My point is when the middleman and everyone else ups their cost a loaf of bread is going to double also. I have sold more 1.60 corn than I ever did 7.00 corn and I sure as hell never dreamed of 15.00 beans. And by the way, I do have a grip.

The caption in the picture says that the reservoir is down 3.5 feet from normal levels. What are normal levels, 3.5 feet, because that lake is dried the h*ll up?

This is a prime example of how the media sensationalizes EVERYTHING! Not just minor exaggerations in their visual representations of reality either, they are outrageous. I'm sure they showed the shallow end of the lake to make us think of the worst devastation that they could possibly represent without an out and out lie.

Journalists are the snakes of society in my opinion. Becoming even more dangerous than politicians. They control the sheep herd. Tell them where to graze, and how much to enjoy it.

I'm from the country and used to help a farmer bring in the hay. Hay never explodes, but if it is bailed before it has dried sufficiently (usually because of a coming storm) the drying process generates heat, and if it was green enough, enough heat to start a fire.

Kornfed -

If you look at the dock in relation to the lake bed you can easily see that the normal water level of the lake in the picture can't be more than a couple of feet. Take the time to analyse what your looking at or reading and it might not seem quite so sensationalized.

Hey Sotajet,

Kornfed can respond for himself, but I think you missed the point. The lake is down 3.5 feet, but we don't know what percentage that is of normal. Instead, we are simply shown a small lobe of the lake where it's just a mud flat now. So, would a picture of a much larger lake where you can barely make out the difference between normal and current levels provide more accurate information? Sure. Which means that this particular photo was intended to create a more dramatic, even if less accurate, response.

Rich-

The picture is taken in Noblesville Indiana per the caption. Which by using google maps I found to be in central Indiana. Based on the U.S. drought monitor that is also provided in the article, a conservative estimate of the drought rating in Noblesville from that map would be severe. The picture in the article would suggest to me that where ever it may have been taken, that area is experiencing much less precipitation than "normal". I would go so far as to describe it as severe. Which is exactly how the area in the picture taken is being described by the U.S. drought monitor.

I think the point was that Kornfed feels as though he is being deceived by the media. I'm guessing its the"liberal" media that is in question. But when you actually look at everything in its entirety where is the deception? In your head maybe?

Rich and Kornfed - lakes are flat. If the level is down 3.5' in one place, it is down 3.5' everywhere.

It is interesting to juxtapose the loss of faith in religions with the obvious signs of global warming. We've been lied to by conservative factions; but science does not lie. One should always put one's money on science every time. In America today, that means betting against the conservatives. (Of course, after we die, we may find out that one of the religions was correct, but only those who guessed correctly - Hinduism? Catholicism? Islam? Wiccans? Mormons? Jehovah's witnesses? Scientologists? - will be happy about it, the rest will be just as screwed as atheists.)

"Clock On The Wall"......Time Will Tell......Not crazy about Dooms Day Predictions.....When SomeOne asks Just say "Clock"..............................

Poor folks, Texas, apparently, was the first to go through this miserable drought. Millions of dead trees, horrible impact on the wildlife and domestic animals. I set up some troughs filled with water so the animals would have something to drink. Food prices are going to shoot through the roof. I had a hell of a time finding hay anywhere and folks were stacked up looking for it. A round bale used to sell for about twenty dollars, now it is up to $140. A bale of alfalfa is twenty dollars and fifty lbs of corn at the feedstore is now ten dollars. One horse can eat a square bale in two days. Ditto cattle so lots of livestock will be heading to market. Glut on meat for awhile and then, skyrocketing prices.

The intense heat killed the garden except for the okra, and a garden isn't going to take care of livestock. If you can safely stockpile, now is the time to do so, just don't stockpile wet hay, according to MSNBC it EXPLODES! Actually, it catches fire and can smolder for hours before it gets to going good. That is why it is imperative to get the hay in before it rains, although it would seem that lack of water is going to result in not much hay.

@Thepunisher, spontaneous combustion has chemical reaction and oxidation as combustion sources. As the wet hay dries out inside the stack microorganisms produce gases and heat which will, upon contact with O2 immediately burst into flame. Nothing else is required to burn down a barn.

Yes.

I think the point was that Kornfed feels as though he is being deceived by the media. I'm guessing its the"liberal" media that is in question. But when you actually look at everything in its entirety where is the deception? In your head maybe?

Rich, you are correct. I thought it was a pretty easy point to relate too,,,but there you go

Well thankfully we've been getting a nice steady rain for the past week. The farmers here grow corn for silage as well as grass for hay. The evenings have cooled off about 20 degrees, or more from that little heat-wave we were getting.

It's so nice to look out from the back deck and see the huge fields and know the farmers, here at least, will have enough to sustain their animals. It's so heart-breaking for those whose livestock will suffer, not too mention the struggle the families face trying to hang on. My heart goes out to them all, human and beast.

I love reading these things for a good laugh.

The drought is sansationalized by the liberal media? There is no need to sensationalize it, it speaks for itself. The photo of the lake is a deception? You can see the docks can't you? Do people build docks on dry land?

I really enjoy the comments about Earth's weather cycles, as if this changes anything and makes it all better. The facts about Earth's weather cycles is true except for one little detail, and that would be the population. Let's take Texas for example. In the early 1900's it had drought when it's population was 3 million. In the Dust Bowl it's population was 5 million. In the 1950's drought it's population was 8 million. During the drought of 2010 & 2011 it's population was 26 million. The severity is measured in this manner. Do you get it, or is further explanation needed?

All of this other stuff about politics and finance is hilarious also. I have some news for you. The crash of 2008 was the crime of the century and fully endorsed by our corrupted politicians which made it legalized crime. You people have got to be crazy to actually defend and support this stuff. This is not capitalism, not even close. This is the theft of a nation, and it is fully endorsed by not only our politicans, but by about half of the victims also. You do see that the victim was you too?

The severity is measured in this manner. Do you get it, or is further explanation needed?

Ya, what's your point?

SonofaButch at post 1.7. You are right. People do want cheap food. They also want cheap flights to Vegas and cheap cruises on the carribbean. Cheap, Cheap cheap. They sound like new chicks. That lake in Indiana looks like an opportunity. Dig out the bottom while still able to drive a Cat and trucks on it. Get a deeper reservoir and have some new top soil for a farm. Give a couple of guys a job meanwhile. But here in Amerika I'm guessing that won't happen.

Kornfed -

If you look at the dock in relation to the lake bed you can easily see that the normal water level of the lake in the picture can't be more than a couple of feet. Take the time to analyse what your looking at or reading and it might not seem quite so sensationalized.

Read the quote I commented off of. Then try again

@ Kornfed & Rich

Although everyone else understood your point, you might be wasting your time with this guy. He is never going to get it, and doesn't want to, as that will expose him for what he really is.

"Quit bending over."

@Gtouch

I promised myself that I wasn't going to say anything about your comment, but that was funny as ****. Thanks for making my day.

Michaelanderson: You make some good points, especially about the 08 crash. It was and is the crime of the century and considering the global scope and the ensuing depressions/recessions perhaps Crime of the Century is too mild a definition. Imagine you're aware of the next criminal installment, LIBOR fraud. Most people would rather bicker about inanities rather than pay attention to what is really happening to them. That said, you really can't blame the drought on banking crimes.

If the Mayans were so smart, why aren't they here to offer suggestions and advice?

Perhaps they knew how dumb we were and took the first spaceship off the planet - have you looked at some their petroglyphs? Check out Van Danikans Chariots of the Gods.

You got that right it seems the so called smart people are the dumbest i still think monkeys are smarter and its to bad we are ruining there earth, education is good but i seen a whole lot of people with education that are really not that smart

Spontaneous combustion, still trying to figure out how that is possible with out a spark of some sort or a hot enough heat source.

Decomposing grass/hay in the center of the bails gets very hot, while the outside of the bail is extremely dry. Along with the hot Sun beating down on it I'm guessing it's the perfect recipe....

That's my assumption.

Thepunisher. Temperature rises as a function of decay, for example in those few places that have open garbage dumps often in the summer you will see smoke. Don't do like I did years ago and make an oversized mulch pit then put your hand deep inside you will get a really bad burn. Hay bails the same way - especially the huge round bails sitting out in the sun, the temp. of decay hits combustion temperature of the hay and POOF! you have a fire. Google spontaineous combustion and learn a pantload!

They Mayans did not finish their calendar because the Spaniards wiped them out. So we will just have to see how it all ends!

hahahahah............that's funny, basically fart catching on fire.

Mayan's biggest mistake was allowing Spaniards to live.

I wish December 21 was already here. The suspense is exciting. This world is deep poo poo no matter which way the pendulum swings. The picture of the dried up lake says everything about NO WATER. Those two lonely boats just sitting in a dirt drydock.

Knowing how these news agencies work they prob showed a pic of a man made lake that never should have been there in the first place.

...its to bad we are ruining there (sic) earth, education is good but i seen (sic) a whole lot of people with education that are really not that smart.

Well, makes me wonder, you certainly don't have to worry about falling into the category of being too educated, now do you?

One "Temperature rises as a function of decay, for example in those few places that have open garbage dumps often in the summer you will see smoke. Don't do like I did years ago and make an oversized mulch pit then put your hand deep inside you will get a really bad burn."

Just trying to think in big picture terms...nothing specific really. But, pretend the earth is one giant pile of mulch...wouldnt it stand to reason, if we reached deep inside, it's nothing but a bad burn (lava)? the more decaying mulch you add on top...the hotter it gets...and one day "POOF" we go up in flames.

Decaying organic material releases heat. Rock isnt decaying nor organic material. Reading comprehension for the win.

The Mayan calender is just that and only that. It tracks our solar system's orbit around the Milky Way. By the logic some use, one would believe the world would end every December 31 or with every new moon.

Note to everyone who thinks the world will end this year: send me your stuff.

@Jessica:

The Earth was initially warmed inside by the gravitational squeeze, and keeps warm because of radioactive decay of fissible elements (such as Uranium and Plutonium).

db2 - I'm with you on that one... I can even come to pick up your stuff!

Denver my bills are on the way. Thanks :)

They say life is a gas, a rotting mulch pit or garbage dump gives off methane much like the politicians do inside the beltway - sooner or later things go POOF in the night!

Reminds me of the Vermont story about the flatlander that did not appreciate the smell of the manure pile back behind his neighbor's barn whose family had lived there since the 1700's. So this here flatlander he petitioned for the farmers in Vermont to put in Septic Tanks for their cattle. So this old farmer did that and stored all the manure and methane from some 300 cows, couple horses, dozen pigs, bunch of chickens, and a herd of randy goats in a huge holding tank - whenever the wind direction was just right he would release and ignite the gas, wasn't long before he was able to buy the flatlanders farm for the price of a warm fart!

Moral of the story; politicians should not pass laws that stink, they might come back to haunt you one day.

The Mayans had open borders,that's why their descendants are mowing lawns in Gardena instead of making calenders in central mexico.

So not happy

They Mayans did not finish their calendar because the Spaniards wiped them out. So we will just have to see how it all ends!

Obliviously you do not know your history. The Mayan Civilization ended approximately 200 to 300 years before the Spanish ever landed in Mexico. The Aztec Civilization was conquered by the Spanish as well as the Inca.

Boomer, nothing like seeing a compost pile throwing off steam in the dead of winter with several feet of snow surrounding it. My dad always had great looking veggies and flowers once the decaying was done and the compost was spread around. Unfortunately, I was the one doing the spreading and turning.

Hey American you to? Kindred spirit I know what you mean. Imagine a 40 foot pile of manure- so hot no snow stuck however by spring we had the best all natural fertilizer known. We were Organic before Organic was cool, we just didn't know it and did not charge enough for the produce and milk. When we got it all spread in early spring boy did it smell good! Did a ton of Maple sugaring as well-now that was hard work!

Just wonder how kids today would work out on a farm.

Well, if the Mayans were correct then we won't have to worry about this drought much longer! Nor, will we have to spend money on Christmas presents- yay!

The world is not going to end yet. The Church has not raptured yet until it does the world will have 1007 years after the rapture. In the mean time lets help each other instead of blaming one another. Its time the church be the church and do the Great Commision dont just preach the good news lets do the great news, actions speak louder than any sermon.

Gator you are so smart, your the kind of person im talking about, you should try and go to school with the monkeys maybe they can teach you something, people like you are a joke . Im educated as much as i choose to be because i dont want to grow up to be an anal piece of turd like you..... if i made any mistakes or your brain cant comprehend what im saying sorry not really lol, go ahead you bored troll fix my comment.

The Church has not raptured yet

guess what?

there is NEVER going to be a "rapture", nothing but a superstitious myth.

religion, lowering IQs for 5000 years

Im educated as much as i choose to be because i dont want to grow up to be an anal piece of turd like you

translation:

"doesn't know jack spit and hates anyone that does"

The politicians and experts are calling our recession the "great recession", just like the called the depression of the 1930s the "great depression". My question is what's so great about it?

What will most likely happen is the world will realize "money" never was worth anything at all and we will go back to a barter society. This will reduce the population rapidly as so few will skills worth bartering and attrition will run rampant. those with skills will survive while the 1%er's will have nothing of value to offer so they will be the first to, OH! now I get why they are so scared - they will have nothing to offer so they will be the first to go under and push up the daisies.

OH! now I get why they are so scared

technically speaking, that would apply to everyone... And it's the entire effort of the society together that makes up the backbone of a working and successful society. And the barter system is almost always severely limited to local resources.. And we found out how destructive that was to the local environment.. Most of America's trees were stripped away by this very system.. And where do you think you are going to use for global bartering? How are you going to ship it without paying someone? Who's going to manufacture these goods ect? Yeah, you're nothing without the 1 percent and the survivors will be those whom work together and learn how to live off the land and not live beyond their and then environments means.

"And where do you think you are going to use for global bartering? How are you going to ship it without paying someone? Who's going to manufacture these goods ect? Yeah, you're nothing without the 1 percent"

Ah but the converse reality is, the 1% is nothing without the other 99% doing their work...true, they could just enslave us, but that rarely lasts for very long. Usually ends up in revolts, massive death and destruction, massive loss of "society" as we know it...

There will always be a 1% - there's no escaping that, the question is how much is enough for the 1%? How much is TOO MUCH, that it causes - what you think is an amazing system - to flip upside down and go haywire?

Money isnt real, it's a tool...and it's an extremely effective tool when in most everyones hands. And it's extremely dangerous when concentrated in so few hands - as it currently is (and historically has a tendency to be).

"how are you going to ship it without paying someone" - so you've figured out that people generally just dont do squat without being paid or enslaved...congrats, you're almost on the same page with most people who realize that insade collection of wealth is just hands down devastating to a healthy society (global or otherwise)

So, the question is...do you want to move ever more closer to a society of enslaved people, as the Super Duper Rich acquire MORE than 90% of the worlds wealth in 10% of the worlds populations hands...or do you want to move away from that model, to where more people have more wealth or at least a decent wage, and everyone can participate in making the world a better place?

FedUpBoomer, no, that won't happen. It's just that paper money won't be worth wiping yourself with. We will revert to precious metals becoming a single world currency. Again. Seen the prices of gold & silver lately?

LOL... yeah, like "no vacancies" will keep anybody out. It hasn't worked at the border.

They put that sign up when the Californians started to invade WA just like they did to Colorado. They totally f**ked our economy back in the 90's.

klondiko, Too bad you don't realize that the drought in the midwest will still impact you in WA via the price you will be paying for products that contain wheat, corn or soy beans. You can have WA. I'll keep my farm country, thanks!

Kevin-the moisture from baling hay with higher than normal moisture content will heat up to so it will first smolder then actually start on fire. The wording from our media experts is a tad bit colorful. Hope this explains it.

The wet hay starts to decompose and one of the byproducts of decomposition is heat - and a lot of it. It gets hot enough for the dry hay to catch on fire.

Heat is what causes fires - the spark or flame is just evidence of heat.

Hardcased has it right - it's like in a compost pile. Compost piles heat up due to the decomposition. In fact, you want it to get somewhat warm, but you don't want it so hot that it starts to burn.

Normally, the outside air is cool enough to keep the the temperature inside the bales below the point of ignition. When it's hot out, the heat just builds up and fire is the result.

Stone... & Hard...., spot on. The rancher put his hay up too wet. Oddly enough, spontaneous combustion of hay is usually more of a problem in wet years than in dry ones. Sometimes you end up bailing hay that is higher moisture content than you normally would, just to get it out of the fields before the next rain. I've had hay lay in the field for more than 2 weeks some years just waiting for it to dry enough to bail. In dry years a day or two tops.

having grown up on a dairy farm (spent much of the summer baling hay), it needs to cure in the field after mowing a couple days to dry totally before baling it. If you try to beat the weather and bale it before it's ready or the humidity is very high, you end up pulling the smoking bales out of the mow in a few days and feed them quickly as the mold will hurt milk production, at the least, or burn your barn down. Not fun...

Kevin: You don't need an ignition source once the material reaches its kindling point.

Farhenheit 451...

Through solar heat and chemical reactions that occur in decay process. Sheesh, pick up a book already.

My favorite song as of late. Always wanted to use it for a comment and you beat me to it! This songs lyrics could actually be used in about 90% of the news today in my opinion. Have a good one.

HA! That must be it!! *chuckle...

lmao, sounds like a SimCity ticker line.

Heat caused the drought

And your juvenile comment has what, if any, relevance, to what I posted?

lack of rain caused the drought. you can still have a drought even if it's not hot outside.

Heat increase drought by increasing evaporation of water, either before or after it falls.

They all started to spontaneously com-bust into flames.

In the 1200's there was such an extended drought in the great basin that cannibalism took place, the cliff dwellings were built to keep women and children safe and un-eaten, mass migrations into Mexico started taking place (where the Aztecs came from). And yes, many ruins were abandoned.

So to put this into a humorous light, if this drought continues long enough Mexico will have to put up a fence to keep us out.

Nooooooo!!!

You forgot to mention how this is all a plot by Obama and his commie cronies to suppress real food and force us all to spend our government mandated food stamps on his liberal Vegan Tofu agenda.

Scary--I had to read your post a few times to realize you were being sarcastic.

The right wing Fox folks manage to say/believe this for reals...

So? It's still a drought, and the quote was talking about next week, not last week.

...Oklahoma and Kansas potentially eastward into Illinois and Indiana may see little significant rainfall over the next 5-7 days...

economykiller - you do realize that this statement is referring to the future, not what happened last week, right? If an area normally has an average of 6 inches for a given period of time but has received less than an inch, then a rainfall of 1-3 inches isn't going to make up for the deficit, Einstein.

Don't forget about all the water being displaced by man made fountains and countless swimming pools in every other back yard. I don't think that was manufactured water.

makes me wonder,

Makes me wonder what you do for a brain. "water is disappearing" into mine shafts and oil reservoirs? Would this not replenish water tables and allow for more water to be pumped from the millions of ground wells? I feel foolish even attempting to reply to your nonsense.

... the rules should of been made for the 1% tables are going to turn when it gets bad enough

makes me wonder - your comments would make a lot more sense if you threw in a little punctuation and capitalization occasionally, never mind using correct grammar and spelling.

Tranquil u are a complete idiot did you graduate kindergarden, you must wear slip on shoes all the time lol and if you cant figure what im saying you better go back to school Gator, sometimes just use your head and as far as the water going in mine shafts and filling voids how is that going fill your well you would have to pump it out again and im sure you would like a nice oily drink, if i fill my well with water how does that help your well and feel free to drink the water out of an abondoned mine or oil void in the ground i think you have been drinking it already

tranquil so if they never pumped the oil out of the earth, are you trying to say that it would of ended up in millions of wells duh monkey smarter

You're welcome.

well its about time one of you morons publicly admit your obstruction of confounding the problem and then maybe doing something about it - but you dont care youall be be in heaven when it really goes bad sitting at the right hand of the father - isnt that right goober you and pappa joe paterno - - he was a good god fearing man too wasnt he

Yank, I thought the same thing. The area looks like a foot deep duck pond! And it is all mud? Kinda fishy..(and where are they and the water plants)?

The caption says it's a cove off a large reservoir

Well pathuntintonny, would you please what caused the heat waves and droughts before we started using oil for energy please.

No pat, it's caused by the lingering La Nina. ENSO should switch to El Nino as the year progresses, leading to cooler and wetter by winter and next summer especially.

Proud American - Yes I agree Obama is so mighty that he might be able to personally talk mother nature out of climate change. You should vote for him. I strongly think it would be in your economic best interest.

Pacific Northwest is beautiful today. Sunny and green. No drought here.

Discraseful american-3435693

The last time the world witnessed this kind of Right-Wing extreamism from the GOP was in Europe, circa 1930 and beyond. Consertvative right-wing politics stomping out Liberals, intellectuals, free thinkers or freedom in general.

I know it's not a joking matter, but that's what it was meant to be. I wouldn't vote for that clown if he was the last Bozo on earth. He has f*cked up this economy so bad that our grandchildrens grandchildren will be paying for it.

Proud American - Exactly how did Obama harm the economy, and how could any one else have done any better? No one seems to be able to answer that beyond meaningless political talking points.

jock,

Very simple. Obama said a couple of months ago he was proposing the corporate tax rate reduced to 28%, the same number that Reagan came up with when he first took office. The problem is Obama has waited over three years to propose it. It he had proposed it in 2009 when he had both houses of Congress, the economy would be roaring by now and he would get a second term. Funny how Obama only make bold proposals on the economy when it is election time and there's no time to enact it. Makes you think if he really means what he says.

Road Warrior, corporations have been making record profits the last three years. Please explain how another tax break for them is going to change everything.

Actually, I recall Obama proposing that several times over the last several years, and besides it is not the President's job to cut taxes anyway (although taxes ARE lower now).

jock,

The President sets the tone, mood and projects business confidence or pessimism. All the hate the rich rhetoric only makes businesses hold on to their money and wait. Let's say a President comes into a recession and immediately tells the business community and investors that he wants tax incentives and not burden them with more regulations. Even if he gets none of it passed, at least businesses know the man is not out to get them. Compare that to a President who comes into a recession and calls them fat cats, will bankrupt them if they pollute and at some time, you have made enough money. The only group he provides any postive vibes are the unions. There are more examples of Obama talking anti-business rhetoric. Add on ObamaCare and you have no incentive to hire and grow. And you are seeing the results.

"no incentive to hire and grow."

People stop wanting to make money because the Presidentis in the wrong mood?

I underatnd what you are saying but it is way overblown. The President of the United States actually has very little to do with the economy (and yes, that is true when it crashes under Republican presidents too). Companies expand and grow when there is demand for their products. Period.

jock,

How can any company plan when they don't know what this President will hit them over the head with next? They still don't know what ObamaCare will bring or what is the next regulation handed down by the EPA. They don't know what the return on their investment will be. That's why our company only hires temps. Companies are scare of the consequences for hiring more people. There is also a human factor. When the President talks down at business as the evil ones, they want to exact revenge. Wealthy people don't have to invest and hire today when they can wait a couple of years. Yes, they want to make Obama look bad so the voters will elect someone who understands them. I don't blame them. Business people can't stand the voice of this guy. He's like the abusive stepfather.

Yep, being petty and vindictive is always the best way to go.

I have no idea how to fix the economy and I'm pretty sure no one else does either. "Gosh, I want to try making money but somebody might pass a regulation in the future so I'm too scared" is not a very convincing scenario.

For those who vote on their pocketbook (and I never have), it is going to come down to whether you really think Romney is going to fix anything where Obama couldn't. And so far Obama is still ahead.

When the current head coach can't get it done, the fans want someone who might do better. It has always worked that way. Fear of future regulations stems from regulations which have already been mandated. If someone hits you once, you take defensive measures because he just might hit you again. Remember the mandate handed out by the EPA on a time table to reduce coal-fired power plant emissions? How about the MPG mandate handed out on future cars? They have hinted even stricter diesel emissions. The diesel sulfur content was just reduced from 500 ppm to 15 ppm within the last four years. That was a Bush era mandate. It never ends. As I said, ObamaCare is a sense is a future mandate because the pieces of the law are just beginning to trickle out. I have a feeling that is biggest mandate of all.

Hey guys, Romney's method actually works best! To heck with what Obamacare or raising or lowering taxes will do. Invest a few million dollars into a Chinese company and do your hiring over there. You bypass all these "uncertainties" that are worrying our corporations into not hiring. Fixed your problem real quick now, didn't I?