Ah, yes, put more money into the football program. gg.

Any renovation of the shower facility that could possibly protect boys in the shower should have been done after the first report of Sandusky abusing someone there. It would not have stopped the abuse at his home but at least there may not have been more on PSU campus grounds.

I might add that if the first report had been reported to the police instead of the school there might not have been any other abuses.

hopefully their football program....will get a well deserved penalty...and not even need a shower...for the next few years...

Too little, too late

Renovate the Board of Trustees - get rid of anyone who was there while the pedophile was raping little boys. Renovate the statue of the COWARD that failed to protect all those little boys in favor of protecting Sandusky and his precious football program. Tear down the Paterno statue and replace it with something to honor the victims!

Stop talking about the good parts of Paterno. He let little boys get raped. He's no hero, no role model. Just a COWARD who only cared about protecting his power.

NCAA should give Penn State the death penalty. They still care more about their athletes than they do the victims. They don't get it at all.

It should be all about the victims. Not about rehabilitating their reputation nor renovating their f*ing showers. Little boys were raped. RAPED. Let's stop glossing this over, that whole place is a crime scene and those in power aided and abetted the rapist by protecting him, rather than reporting him. COWARDS!

Quick, bring in the bulldozers before the cops come back and find a whole lot more DNA spewed all over the walls, benches and lockers.....I bet if they go in when it's dark with Luminol and UV lights that shows body fluids, the place will light up like Times Square on New Years Eve......

This is baffling. Wait, it's not. Football, football, football. These people just don't get it.

When doing the redesign they though long and hard about the meaning of Shower Heads...

patsy

good one. wonder how many fools will take yout post seriously.......this may get good......:)

lynsey

wow i find myself in agreement with you for once....will wonders ever cease?.........;)

Are you kidding me?!

This is their big idea to fix a problem?...........just tear down the football stadium AND the showers and put in a nice building dedicated to "green" engineering and a new outdoor sprinkler system.

oh, and by the way, tear down that statue of Joe Paterno----it is liken to having a statue of Sandusky on campus..............Paterno sealed his legacy when he turned his back on the suffering of these kids to safe keep his beloved football program.

Penn State should do more than a shower facelift.............they should change the entire core way of thinking...........football should not be their life's blood anymore....they should become the leading school in the study and technological advancement of environmentally safe, clean, affordable green energies and products......................

screw football, do something useful to make up for the horrendous activities that you allowed to take place on your campus...........allow the students that are there on football scholarships to finish our their education as if they were in the football program (find something else for them to do if you like), close the football program, get rid of the stadium and replace it with a vast building for the "Green" program (let kids get scholarships for this....gives more back to society than football) and erase Joe Paterno, Sandusky and the rest who facilitated these horrid events from Penn State history, pay damages to the victims for their suffering and offer lifetime free education for the victims and their families for LIFE (eternity) (like they would want to set foot on Penn's campus) and show some TRUE and earnest efforts to do something about this.........

because renovating, putting up new curtains, is not enough. Penn State has been permanently ruined by Joe Paterno and his band of brothers and THAT is Paterno's legacy............the man deserves not a moment of thought in our memories...........grow up and FIX THIS!....Penn State's legacy should be one of valor in the face of this situation----------rid their history of Paterno, get rid of the football program and replace it with constructive and innovative programs seeking new and advanced "green" technologies and start teaching your students what it is to truly take responsibility for what has happened and show them true requital for Paterno's actions and the actions of the other gang of heartless greedy thugs and begin a new era for Penn State...........the football program is what allowed these atrocities to take place and continue---the children were lured by the game by Sandusky and his actions were allowed to continue to protect the game and the financial resources it provided for the school.....................the program must go.

Just imagine...........Penn State, the leader in green technology study and creation......it is the future is more ways than football............Penn State should start paying attention to brains instead of brawn, I guarantee you that Sandusky would have never lured a child into his clutches by offering them a tour of the green technologies department.

Hey Penn State..................take some SERIOUS action in regards to this nightmare!!!!

Debbie

great job....you may have a cookie....hell take the whole bag.........:)

seems like an inadequate gesture to me.

And these are the straight people,, alot of them stood back and let this happen, I always say the worst perv's are married say they are straight, go to church, oh to think like a straight, how sad..

Patsycamoure3 Mirrored ceilings and cameras would make it a porn studio.

I am not a football fan so I have no dog in this fight. I do find it troubling and problematic with universities covering up for their own. All college professors and coaches should be reviewed by outside non-stakeholders when charges are levied against the offenders for any offense.

To cover up a high profile pedophile is unforgivable. The Penn State U football program should be penalized and forbidden to play, recruit or assemble a squad for a decade. PSU has violated the trust given to them by parents and the public at large. This cover up is so heinous that the penalty must be levied immediately. It is clear from the email trail that Paterno to the top management was well aware of Sandusky's predatory crimes. Where does the buck stop? Many college professors have proved to be con men with a PhD and go untouched or held accountable due to the Ivory Towers of academia. Our tax dollars support these universities through federal, state and tuition so they should answer to all of these entities and not a Provost or Board that is comprised of good old boys covering for these perps. Enough already and act like men instead of social deviants.

They should really hold off until they find out if the program is going to be shut down or not.

tear them down, no more football, no more sports for that loser university.

Just the thought of taking a shower there at Penn State makes my skin crawl.

they are going to add handles on the walls so you don't have to worry slipping and falling while getting...

This is just a ploy to make them look like they're doing something responsible to make up for their prior failures. Not only should they compensate the victims but should also have their football program taken out for at least ten years. Of course we know that won't happen because of our sports-obsessed culture where a football team is more important than anyone's life.

Hi this is Jerry..I left my mark in there..OOHHHHH...UHHHH MMMMM. I'm cominggggg!!!!!

I have to add my 2 cents here. My daughter graduated from PSU in 2009, and was an all-american swimmer. Her house of 5 swimmers, 4 all-americans, each graduated in 4 years. Her team had a GPA of over 3.2 her Sr. year. This episode, particularly the Freeh report has brought her to tears numerous times. This atrocity is the result of 1 monster and 4 administrators with no testicles. But scrapping the athletic program as some have suggested just hurts the hard working student athletes who have done nothing but work hard as STUDENT - athletes. Joepa is dead, and the rest can all go to jail for a long time. But take a deep breath before we throw away the good because of the bad.

Oh yes, I guess they'll put in a wet bar, add some subdued lighting, some Roman statues, a romantic waterfall, etc...

PLEASE!!! What a pile of crap.........

Dragon80 we have no doubt your daughter worked hard for her scholarship, but it was the leadership of the school that failed the entire educational system. This cannot be put on the shoulders of Paterno. He had help from the highest of administration. As a parent you see nothing wrong with the ethics of this Big 10 school? Come on you are more intelligent than your post. The athletic program should be mothballed for a at least a decade. This is a Big 10 and it does taint the rest of the Big 10 schools as well. Athletic programs seem to be the only thing young adults look at when choosing a college instead of the academics.

I know because I taught Calculus to student athletes at the school I attended for grad work. I know first hand what goes on with athletes, grades, coaches and academia. Athletics first since these student athletes are bought and paid for by the Alumni for the games and prestige of their program.

By the way I attended both undergraduate and graduate schools that put academics first and sports second or third. Our student athletes had to take and pass a full year of Calculus to graduate. We have academic standards that were high and respected by everyone. I am for mothballing PSU's or any other university's athletic program for an offense as we have witnessed with such a far reaching cover up.

Dragon80

When/IF the NCAA administers the Death Penalty to PSU, as well they should, it would be to the football program only - not to the other sports. It was the God Paterno, in his role of head football coach, that allowed this to happen by turning his back on the children. He and the others considered the football program more important than saving the kids. Paterno is dead and, personally, I hope he rots in hell for what he didn't do and for what he allowed to happen, but the others need to rot in jail. And PSU needs to PAY BIG TIME to beg forgiveness from the victims.

It's part of their policy changes to make it safer for kids at the school. From the psu sports page:

July 11, 2012

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - Penn State has approved today (July 11) a new University-wide administrative policy, AD73, "Accessing Athletic and Recreational Facilities." The policy limits Penn State Intercollegiate Athletics facilities' use to Penn State student-athletes and Athletics personnel, and recreational facilities' use to individuals with a valid University identification card, during normal hours of operation.

"The University's new facilities policy is an important part of an overall plan to provide the safest environment possible to our constituents, and also re-emphasizes our commitment to offer athletic and recreational space for the use of our students, faculty, staff and their guests," said Steve Shelow, assistant vice president for University Police and Public Safety. "It's important to note that we will continue to honor prior agreements with outside organizations to use these facilities."

Any exceptions to this policy must be given in writing, and approved by the appropriate facilities office responsible for athletic and recreational facility access. At the University Park campus, David Joyner, acting athletic director, and Mark Bodenschatz, associate athletic director of facilities and operations, will oversee the policy's implementation, including necessary physical changes to limit access and the addition of appropriate staff.

"Penn State Athletics has proactively pursued this important change in University policy," said Joyner. "This is the latest step in our department's efforts to strengthen the safety and security of our facilities for students."

University ID cardholders will be allowed to bring one related guest with them to use recreational facilities only during the time each facility is specifically designated as being open and available for use.

While the policy pertains to sporting and recreational space at all Penn State campuses, it does not apply when facilities are being used for authorized events designated for public attendance.

Remodeling could prevent some future crime. And yes, they have to help the victims too.

How many universities put big open shower rooms into dorms that anybody can walk into? A visiting "friend" of somebody in the dorm could walk into that big bathroom; it has happened before. The same amount of space, if spread among the actual rooms, would be much more private and safe for the people living there.

If there are young people (under 18) visiting a college, there should be a system in place that guards their safety. There is no other way to insure that this doesn't happen again, but remodeling can prevent some crimes.

PSU should pay big time to each of the children who were violated. I could care less if they have to mortgage Beaver Stadium to pay for it. But no I can't agree with closing down athletics entirely. My daughter had offers from Notre Dame, Florida, and Penn State. She chose PSU because of the specific academic major it offered that the other 2 did not. She had an amazing time watching Volleyball, and Lacrosse, and making lifelong friendships with both athletes and non-athletes. Closing down athletics would just throw thousands of people out of work and hurt a lot of people who did no wrong.

Bring down the statue(s) of Paterno and modify it/them to show Joe P. screaming in agony with flames licking at his feet, getting stuck in the ass with a trident. Maybe make it explode fake lava like the "volcano" out in Vegas (but exploding much more frequently), dubbed over with the devil's cackling laugh, and the trident will jab him in the butt every 3 or 4 seconds. As for Jerry Sandusky, his head should be up on a pike overlooking the Lasch Football building, ravens picking the flesh off his skull and his eyeballs out of their sockets, just like the ones that used to line London Bridge back in the days of Henry VIII. The administration who covered up all of this should do time in prison, then they should be responsible life-long for the maintenance and upkeep of this "little shop of horrors" by running in hamster cages to generate the electrical power to run and illuminate these displays.

Penn State needs a good swift kick in the ass, and heads should roll there. If they think that renovating the football building and locker room is going to attone for their collective sins, they are sorely mistaken. I hope the whole university and particularly the football program will have severe economic fallout from this for decades to come. I can't understand why the Big Ten Conference doesn't just completely boycott, sanction, and excommunicate them.

They're installing condom machines?

Just put some signs outside the door "No Horsing around in the Shower".

I don't understand this need to tear down any structure where something bad happened (unless it's a mass grave site or something like that). The shower block didn't do the crime! If Europe got rid of every building where someone was killed, attacked, etc. there'd be nothing left, the buildings are so old!
Now I can understand if they think the design of the building created a perfect crime spot and fear copycat repetition, but I didn't hear that in the evidence. This just sounds like window dressing after the fact.

try'n to get away from...that...we are perv state...image...

Trying to hide the "stains"

Obviously it was the fault of the showers, hence the meaningless renovation. They probably have concluded the existing facility was constructed to offer those showering some measure of privacy, and as pointed out in many posts, the renovated facility will most likely have no privacy at all, and all future showering will be regularly recorded and reviewed.

Look for other colleges to follow Penn State's lead on this.

Yeah because taking pictures of naked people never leads to misuse or any other undesirable consequences. With testimony from a guy taking pictures of naked dudes rubbing soap on their body parts and all the free condoms being thrown we will have 100% prosecution rates on these crimes.

You just convinced me to vote obama in 3012!!

How about changing the laws & punishment for child molestors & rapist so they can't get release to continue harming our children. This makes more sense then changing show.

The remodeling will probably just consist of a sign (like at an amusement park ride) which reads "You must be above this ------ height to use these showers."

Those damn showers ! The showers made me do it said the monster Sandusky.

I agree with you there DKJ. We need to change the laws, and KEEP Sexual preadators behind bars and not at our children. Let them find out when BUBBA gets his hands on them what it feels like to be the abused.

JS in SD,

Actually, the remodel will include cameras so that the Penn State administration can condone and sanction any future molestations that occur, just as they have made it "corporate" policy/culture to do so in the past while sitting there doing nothing while watching Paterno sell his soul to the devil and Sandusky do whatever he pleases. Nothing is going to change there until they : A) attone for all that happened publicly, B) make hefty monetary restitutions to all the families involved with settlements and lawsuites, C) rip down/out every reference, statue, sign, book, etc. with Joe P. and Jerry Sandusky's name, D) Publicly renounce and condemn Paterno, Sandusky, and all of the high-level administration who covered up this monstrosity, E) Fire the Chancellor/President, Provost, board members, and all top-level administration and replace with deans and department heads who have vociferously done item #D above,, F) Remove all references (signage, street names, statues, etc.) to Paterno from surrounding town of State College and periphery, and sue whatever restaurants and business insist on propagating his evil legacy, and G) institute a system of training, prevention, and checks and balances at all levels, including but not limited to enhanced security in all locker room areas, a strict "no child allowed on the premises" rule for ALL university buildings, etc. All of that is just a start.

How about they put Joe Paterno's statue in the showers.

I hate to burst your bubble. Comparing Penn State's pedophile Sandusky to Kent State is not a good comparison. Penn St had an active pedophile on payroll for a long time. As for Kent State, the girl who was pictured crying for the onw deceased student WAS 14 YEARS OLD and was not a student there.

Oh but if those showers and lockers could talk.

did you mean... century...

good one

You should still feel proud. Penn State is a world class university. What these men did is not a reflection on the students and alumni of Penn State. If the same thing happened at the University of Texas I would be heart sick, but it could happen at any big university football program. I know that Penn State fans could not be more fanatical about football than Texans.

Texan,

"it could happen at any big university football program". I'll tell you what Texan; if the NCAA shuts down Penn States football program for a decade, costing them $500,000,000 ( it's a $50 million a year BUSINESS) every other school on the planet will have an aggressive policy regarding the deliberate concealment of homosexual rape by employees under any circumstances. Then you will no longer be able to say "it could happen at any big university football program". Joe would have killed Sandusky with his bare hands to avoid such a penalty.

Grab a 440 volt line with both hands; you die. Try to shake hands with a rattle snake; you die. Cover up for someone raping little kids; your program dies. Remove all suggestions of a threat. Make it a guarantee.

This remodeling idea is a mal-adroit move by a board who did not know how to be a board, and continues to display how inept they truly are.

Hey Penn State! Change the culture, not the structure.

Bravo you sir fedup. Well said!!

marsha...marsha...marsha...thinks...your idea...is creepy creepy creepy...

Yes, yes it was those damn shower which made me do it said the monster Sandusky through clenched teeth yesterday.

I hope not

It was those damn showers which made me do it. And the secret office I had assisted me in these crimes of passion. After all who can resist a shower head ? A quote from the monster Sandusky ?

What is really sad is that donations to Penn State have gone up. If I was an alumni there I would sue them for misuse of my money. This is just a warm up, we have not had total destruction yet. I bet the football program will be hardly touched by this scandal. If it is, it will be a slap on the hand. The shock jocks, students, and fans will not tolerate their program being touched. These people have no morals what so ever. I hope Penn State fry's for this and the victims get compensated dearly.

Just rename it the perverts pimp.

They lack both the courage and the decency to do so.

What really needs renovation is the school administrations attitude about child sexual abuse! Clean house like renovating a mold infested house! Discard all infected portions!

I say give the guilty party the same treatment the victims endured. With Big Billy Bubba in prison doing it to them. Leave Sandusky last for the grand finale.

It will do about as much as praying will!

Don't people get on their knees to pray?