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Subscribe to RSSTwo former female elementary school students have filed a lawsuit against their former teacher, alleging he sexually abused them at Telfair Elementary School in Pacoima, Calif..
The students were 8 years old at the time they allege their teacher, Paul Chapel III, forced them to sit on his lap while he kissed and fondled them in class during school hours, according to the complaint.
The complaint, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Thursday, also claims the Los Angeles Unified School District negligently hired and retained Chapel and should have known he had a history of sexual abuse cases in court.
See the original report at NBCLosAngeles.com
Chapel was arrested in October in connection with allegedly sexually abusing four minors, including the plaintiffs in the civil case. News about the arrest was not disclosed until February, garnering complaints from parents.
Chapel was fired from his job in March and his teaching credential was suspended. He is in jail awaiting a July 16 court date in connection with the criminal case. He's pleaded not guilty to charges of lewd acts against 13 children.
School district officials did not comment.
An attorney for Chapel was not available.
The complaint alleges the district hired Chapel despite the filing of a civil case against him for making sexual jokes and showing a sexually explicit video to Chaminade High School students in 1987. Chapel lost that case and paid the plaintiffs $57,000.
The complaint also alleges the district should have known that Chapel was prosecuted in 1997 for sexually molesting an 8-year-old family friend during a sleepover. The day of his arrest on Feb. 27, 1997, the district transferred Chapel from a classroom to an administrative office.
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At the time, the state suspended his teaching credential.
Following the criminal trial, which ended in a hung jury, the district lifted Chapel’s suspension and he was allowed back into the classroom. He was reassigned to Telfair and reported to work on Oct. 9, 1998.
The district “failed to take any measures to discipline, warn, train or discharge Chapel, and failed to take any measures to ensure the safety of the minor students within his care,” the complaint alleges.
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School is dangerous, you have horny teachers and coachs having sex with kids, wingnut religious fanatic teachers cutting and burning kids, future republicans bullying gays students till they commit suicide, kids bringing their parents guns to school and shooting the place up and to top it off you have the Texas Board of Education putting out text books that teach lies and fairy tales.
Pretty scary day care prison system they got going isn't it. When the collective integrity slips, all systems created by wise, honest, thoughtful, dignified people will fail...all of them.
And don't forget the left wing socialist union backed teachers filling our kids heads with la-la land crap.
Not only do you have liberal teachers teaching kids that financial success is evil, businesses are evil, people who work hard are evil, and that everyone is owed a trophy just for showing up... they're also abusing our kids like this guy. Good thing the unions make sure they get to keep their jobs.
Seek help Jax/Tony, you seriously need it!
It's natural for children to learn cope with difficult children without violence. Getting teased is a normal part of growing up while learning to cope. Children that can't coupe in social setting are most likely children that have poor parents are parents that are absent.
Your a left wing idiot that was born brainless, you'll find out most teachers are liberals. the only fairy tale is your freakin post
Bob
Know why the liberals are teachers - cos no reich wingers have the smarts to do it. All they have smarts for is to post inane comments like yours!!!
Wrong Pat-1988241, they are TOO smart to do it. I teach college-level mathematics so I don't work around small children but getting a lower-level teaching certification is not that difficult. A degree in education doesn't require a superior intellect by any means.
WTF does child abuse have to do with right or left wing???
Grow up, for Christ's sake.
Thank you Tina.
You just had to mention christ...here they come.....
Hey Pat, those smart teachers you love so much, as group in college have the lowest SAT scores. Those that can, do, those that can't, teach.
Funny. I never recall any teachers teaching me that corporations are evil. Must be in your own self deluded world.
Right. The same people who base their entire lives on the teachings of some fairy tale omnipotent being are TOO smart to get an education.
Who cares? Low SAT scores arent indicative of anything. A cousin of mine graduated from HS with a 4.0 but got an 880 on his SAT's. I graduated with a 2.3 from HS and also got an 880.
Funny thing is - we both graduated with engineering degrees from Penn State with GPA's over 3.0.
SAT's dont mean jack. Its very evident you hate teachers but it looks like you lack a firm foothold on reality also.
Bob - and those who can do neither post inane and idiotic comments like yours.
Jax A.
I never once taught my students anything on your list.
bigdaddy, you can get a PhD with an IQ of only 110. which is in the 'average' range for intelligence. no ''superior intellect'' needed to be a 'doctor'. duh!!
when you have navy doctors bring home a brain from a dead service person for the kids to play with or a dentist reuses needles on his patients, ''the best and the brightest'' suddenly don't seem neither very good nor very bright!!
as in ''the wizard of oz'' a brain without a good heart is just not complete. and we haven't even gotten to the courage aspect.
WOW!
If all teachers are THAT bad, then how did all y'all learn how to read & write?
The way to control the masses is to control their minds. This is what the liberals have done. Why is it that other countries who pay their teachers less and spend less on Education, but get better results than the US.
clever, well thought out, reasoned comments, one and all. most are on the level of 6th graders, but what difference does that make?
ladies and gentlemen, readers, may i introduce you to my countrymen?
@Pat-1988241
Says the person whose post is a mirror image of the one they are criticizing. LOL!
Chapel doesn't have a lot to be worried about, the liberals and their unions will mount a vigorous defense for him. They do it all the time and get away with it. I've seen unions defend criminal behavior myself.
Just another reason to ban public sector unions.
There seems like enough warning flags went up about this guy, and yet the school district still hired him? Sue for the max. It's one thing if the school didn't know, but another completely if their "spidey sense" should have been tingling. The old adage...where there is smoke, there is fire.
I agree with you, sue to the max! This school district put a predator back into the classroom where he could do it over and over again, maybe a good hit to the pocketbook will make them think twice before they hire another pervert. Whoever made the choice to let him back into the classroom should be fired as well. And thank you justice system for letting a child molester go free! It's strange how he didn't learn his lesson the first few times.
I am against suing the school district. We wind up footing the bill for that. I am, however, for holding those who hired him responsible. If I knowingly give a drunk man my keys and he kills someone in my car, I'm responsible for murder. Make the administrators who gave this jerk a job stand before a jury with him.
As a facilities engineer for a public school - I can honestly say that most schools probably have policy where people cant work there if they have ever been CONVICTED of a crime. If this guy was arrested and never convicted - there's your answer right there on how he was hired.
Most state clearances only show convictions. FBI clearances (which are being instituted everywhere now) actually give arrest records.
sue to the max!!! ???
and who is going ''to pay'' for the max!!! why the same people who pay the taxes that fund the school!! the litigants will end up costing themselves, and all of their neighbors, more and more money in taxes, for their 'win'.
at a time of declining revenues and incomes perhaps ''sue to the max'' isn't a good idea. it only will make the current financial problems of cities and states worse as insurance premiums will go up, premiums that the locals need to pay, and at a time when most are struggling to pay the current bills they are being overwhelmed by. so why load on more financial strain when there is precious little extra money to be had?
beck
''a good hit in the pocketbook''? of the school's pocket book?
in reality it will be a hit to the taxpayers pocket books. costs are just passed on to the tax payers to pay and pay and pay. again. as if they haven't been hit enough already?
the schools pocketbook is just refilled by taxpayers----like you! (i don't live in the states anymore, so it ain't coming out of my pocket!)
isn't that a tad self defeating??? to sue them and then you get to pay the damages through higher local and state taxes? i don't think that is terribly bright! but it is your money.
americans seem to see situations such as this a 'winning the lottery'. but they get to pay the damages. in a true lottery the players pay the payouts. in civil damages against the school, the local taxpayers pay. and pay and pay and pay. and when there is a school bond referendum for something really worthwhile it is little wonder it gets voted down.
music, art, gym, languages have all been cut. what next? are you going to cut reading, math, history or science? try getting your kids into college that way or from a school like that.
texas lady, in suing the administrators the school district is responsible for paying for their defense and any damages. and then the tax payers will still be stuck with these higher costs/bills through higher taxes.
your NEXT brightest idea is?????? how about one that does not involve shooting the taxpayers in the foot!
why are we in such trouble as a country? just read the comments here and you will soon know the answer.
@Texas Lady-1937322
First I've got to say that no, you would not be responsible for murder nor would the person who was driving the car.
Aside from that in all likelihood this guy has been bouncing around the system since he first got into trouble back in '87. Without a conviction on a more serious crime these teachers are virtually impossible to fire because of the protection they get from the unions.
Don't sue the school district. They HAD to rehire the guy based on union rules. The suit should be filed against the union.
When are they just going to start shooting these people instead of releasing back into the public?
Who's they? - someone you voted for maybe?
Any wonder Home-Schooling is booming?
LOL - ever meet home schooled children? Ha! And you think public educated kids are spoiled.
My husband was homeschooled and by no means is he spoiled. I have got to comment on the actual news story. This guy got sued and had a hung jury. That means they didn't find enough to say he was guilty. The only thing they could of done was give his license back. Let's hope this trial goes better for the people suing him.
This is what happens when the they took GOD out of the Public Education Systme in 1963 ... The court put condoms and SEX ED in the curiculum and took GOD out ...
And whose God was that - yours?
And mine!
God has not been taken out of the school system.
GOD has nothing to do with anything.
There were no children abused prior to 1963?
Give me a @!$%#ing break!
If the genders were reversed and the teacher was an attractive female ... there would be no case ... the teacher would walk ...
You have identified one of the ignored issues concerning sexual crime in this country. If women are equal to men, then they should be guilty of crimes in equal numbers with men, but the fact is they are treated less harshly by the justice system and in some instances what should be criminal for them isn't. Women are not "nicer" than men, they just express their perversions in different ways which mostly gets ignored. If women were prosecuted and given sentences for prostitution like men are for rape, the numbers would be far more equal. Women are not exempt from being perverted.
Not true, if a woman abused boys they'd be in trouble as well. Really...
Zossima:
You view these two crimes as equal ?
No, probably not.
Jack Dulouz, they're double standards in sentencing women vs. men for sexual crimes. Just look at the women teachers and their sentences in the past.
Any wonder Home-Schooling is booming?
Yep - it is booming - especially among those who sexually, physically, and emotionally abuse their own kids. When the kids don't go to school - the parents don't get caught.
At least with teachers in a Public School - they are highly likely to get caught at some point.
Remarkably asinine comment, brickwall.
So, you know that sexual, physical, and emotional abuse is occuring because the parents are not getting caught????
hahaha I'll agree, what an asinine comment!
Im going to go ahead and use your ilk's logic in this case as you folks use it when discussing religion.
You cant prove they arent being abused either. See? Stupidity is fun.
And it is also easy to see from your posts that you have your PhD in it.
Talk to the Hand, that is the funniest thing I have ever read on Newsvine... I will now use this... Thanks for the laugh.
There are millions of sex offenders living in middle to upper class neighborhoods across the U.S. These monsters are not in jail because they are white males. 98% of all Pedophiles are white males. Many sex offenders are repeat offenders that have raped women and children.
The FBI's website shows the hard core reality of living in America.
Why isn't this conversation at the head of the line by the press? Because no body cares until they are the victim. America is becoming more like many evil Arab States where rape victims are prosecuted instead of predatory monsters.
Many in denial are avoiding true issues concerning our social welfare in America, which is the fact that white males are out of control but the blame is always placed on the poor.
Am I making race an issue? YES. Black or White Skin is not a race but people with different shades of skin colors.
Justice in America = Just Us and not them.
The only thing created from this double standard is ARROGANT MONSTERS that prays on women and children.
Exactly. As long as ill informed and prejudiced people keep pointing their bony little fingers in the wrong place, things like this will continue to happen. And those that refuse to face facts regarding crime rates and the unequal application of justice in this country, and continue to believe that it is the poor and the minorities responsible for all the crime in this county, allow it to happen.
Becoming? It has been this way since I was a child and that was before the wheel was invented. As much as I hate to admit you are right, you are. Statistics show that a disportionate number of black males are prosecuted and receive longer sentences than their white counterparts. This is a statistical fact that cannot be argued. I cannot say whether or not most rapes are committed by white males, I have seen no evidence of that (not meaning it isn't true, only that I have seen no evidence of it). However, I do not doubt it. Having been raped myself as a child twice and once as a young adult, (no pity parties please, I am way past it) I can honestly say I have never been so much as even been threatened by a black man.
Chuckie Love, you are a part of the problem rather than a part of the solution. The facts are that this is a very treatable problem but because of too many uninformed people like you, punishment takes precedence over treatment. Does it even matter to you that virtually everyone who is a sex offender was themselves sexually abused as a child? Hate has made you every bit the monster you see others as being.
Chuckie Love is a fool, waiting to be discovered! Pure, premeditated, genuine, unadulterated FOOL!
aren't most people molested by someone they know? seems i read that, more than once. much like you are more likely to be killed by someone you know than by a stranger.
More racial garbage from the black community, are you people ever going to stop with this race baiting, the biggest problem is the percentage of black on white crime, you boos rape, rob, murder, torture, extort, turn young white women into prostitutes,drugs and you have the nerve to print this when black on white crime is through the roof, pedophiles come in all colors not just white, and before you come into my house and point fingers, you best clean your own first, how could you even print something like this, you racist p.o.s its no wonder theres such a divide in races, people like you make the rest of you blacks look bad, Always playing the race card, or the slave card, doesnt work, what happened was 150 years ago and to only 15 of blacks, that dog dont hunt anymore, go get educated, a job, act human, go to church and become a asset to society instead of a leech. by the way smart a zz the teacher was black.
Very approximately,
(1) About 0.2 percent of Black-on-White interracial crimes are labeled "hate crimes."
(2) About 3.2 percent of White-on-Black interracial crimes are labeled "hate crimes."
Every year there are about 1,700,000 violent crimes between Blacks and Whites. Of those crimes, Blacks commit 85%. The remaining 15% are committed by someone whom the U.S. Department of Justice considers "White," which includes most of the Hispanics resident in the United States. When you remove the Hispanics from the tally of "White" offenders, the proportions of B&W crimes shift to 90% having Black perps and 10% having White perps.
So for each violent crime having a White perpetrator and a Black victim, there are 9 crimes having a Black perpetrator and a White victim. That's an astounding imbalance of violent crime, especially when you consider that Whites outnumber Blacks in the USA by a ratio of six. It means that Blacks are 54 times more likely to commit a violent crime against Whites than the reverse.
That ratio of 54 is only for crimes with a single perpetrator and a single victim. Black GANGS are about 200 times more likely to attack someone White, as compared with the reverse.
Despite the huge number of violent B&W crimes, a typical year sees less than 10,000 "hate crime" accusations. Only one out of every 200 interracial crimes is considered a "hate crime" by the police.
You'd think that the Black-to-White per capita rate ratio for "hate crimes" would be about the same as that rate for violent interracial crimes, wouldn't you? After all, any violent interracial crime is a candidate for the "hate crime" category, yes? Well, if you think that those ratios are at least roughly equal in value, then you're wrong. The police seem to have a strong aversion to accusing Blacks of "hate" offenses. Blacks are only 2.25 times more likely to be "hate criminals," as compared with Whites.
Why the drop, from a ratio of 54 for interracial crimes, all the way down to 2.25 for "hate crimes"? Why is a White who commits a violent act against a Black 24 times more likely to be slapped with "hate crime" charges, as compared with a Black who commits a violent act against a White?
The reason, I think, is massive propaganda and psychological conditioning of police officers, carried out in part by the usual politically correct venues, such as television. But the police get an extra dose of brainwashing from Jewish organizations like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), whose agents regularly presume to "teach" our police officers how to do their jobs in the "correct" way.
The whole "hate crime" idea is a legitimized scam, based on illusion, whose purpose is to make Whites look worse than they are, to make Blacks look better than they really are, and to inflict more legal punishment on Whites than on Blacks for offenses of equal seriousness.
Most of the Hispanics resident in the United States (both legals and illegals) are Mestizos, who are biologically non-White. Nonetheless, the Justice Department calls them "Whites" when they are offenders, but recognizes them as being a separate group when they are victims. That's some of the official cheating that our government does with race statistics. Why does the DoJ do this cheating? I think that the reason might have something to do with Jewish influence.
Per capita, Mestizos are about 3 times more likely to commit violent crimes, as compared with real Whites. As a rule of thumb, any of the Justice Department's per capita ratios of Black-to-White crime offenses should be corrected by raising them by a factor of about 1.4.
Those two posts have got to be the most unashamedly bigoted posts I have read in awhile, and that's saying something.
Go on a Liberal rag Tina. You haven't seen anything yet.
So what are they going to sue for, his $3.50 share a week making license plates?
The article does not come right out and say so, but the wording seems to indicate that the schoold district is either a co-defendent in the case or will have a civil case brought against them, perhaps dependent on the outcome of this one. That being the case, either land owners in that county will see their taxes rise or parents will see the budget shrink for their schools.
So, they'll just be taking the funding away from all the rest of the kids than. So much better. Because Prop 13 will not allow an increase in Property Tax.
sounds like the educational system is following in the footsteps of the catholic church.
Were they really "former female elemenary school students" or were they in fact "female former elementary school students"? Someone needs to learn to write. That aside, what is wrong with people???? Something like this is in the news almost every day now. Makes you wonder how many times it's happening that no one knows about. Sickening!
Wow, A child abuse case and we can't get beyond the first page without throwing politics into this sick mess???
Let's discuss what is really going on here.
Chaminade students filed and won a suit against this piece of trash.
However the bloodsucking Lawyers always make the Plaintiffs sign a non-disclosure statement.
So who knew, when he was hired by the District? Nobody.
Than his alleged and I use that word loosely, acts upon a Family Friends Child.
He was transferred to a desk and the state suspended his license until his day in court and no verdict due to a hung jury.
His License was re-instated and he was returned to a classroom.
Transferred to another school.
Our we back on Track?
Now, what the Hell went wrong?
Which came first? The Union or the State and District?
Actually the damn Lawyers came first.
They defended this lowest form of Life.
They could of not made the student Parents at Chaminade sign a non-disclosure statement.
The State comes in Second.
Rules too lax that allows someone to return to the classroom after serious allegations. He could of been told to work in a Administrative Office with strict rules of no Student Contact.
Third the Union.
Why would a Teacher's Union stand up for this Pedophile?
Fourth the District for failing the Children.
They could of fought his return. Tooth and Nail. It's insane how many hoops they have to jump through to Fire a Teacher. But, in this case they should of gone after him till Hell freezes over.
But remember the biggest turd next to this Guy are the Lawyers protecting Garbage like this.
Tort Lawyers to be specific.
The Lawyers who represented this Fly Feces in the first case dealing with Chaminade. All they had to do was tell him he wouldn't be protected.
I have to give the Parents of these Children a lot of Credit.
I know it would of been a different out come had I been one of those Parents.
I just could not of kept from taking short cuts.
This Turd is Lucky to be alive.
He will get his. Just not soon enough to undo the Damage he's already done.
Good Luck to the Victims and their Families.
Sue, sue, sue. Hope the school is forced to close because of those idiots hiring that nut. Hmmmm wonder how many teachers knew about this, but kept quiet about it like the Sandusky case.
Yes, close the school! The children do not need an education. Brilliant idea! Why don't you run for POTUS? You and Newt or Cain would make a good team! We need people in high offices with a high IQ!
EK.....what's wrong with closing up an institution that doesn't operate correctly? Shut it down and start from scratch with a new administration that can understand what's right and what's not. As far as bringing suit for monetary damages, yes it's true everyone pays, but it seems that's the only thing that gets anyones attention anymore.....so I say sue away!!
Simply letting the status quo remain isn't any answer to the problems....at any level. Hopefully, we as a country will come to understand this before it's too late. I believe the only ones happy with the current state of affairs are the ones who benefit from it and don't want to risk upsetting the feeding trough.
The children need an education for sure....but at what cost? I'm not talking about debating lines taken out of context in a text book, I'm concerned with the general willingness to sweep things under the rug to maintain the current course. I also know one example doesn't prove the entire system is dysfunctional. I dislike agreements made with public institutions and their people that hide behind confidentiality agreements. I believe they open the door to instances such as this one.
Johnnyt if that was the case we would shut down all government institutes, from the US Capital all the way down to Mayors court.
The problem becomes obvious whne supposed adults feel compelled to bring right and left wing into the discussion they are not focused on what they need to be focused on. Kids are being hurt. Pay attention please.
This guy's name is Paul Chapel III. Who is Paul Chapel I and Paul Chapel II? What positions do they hold? The answers might be interesting!
There is no need to bring politics and religion in this discussion. God does not look favorably on this type of conduct, and I am sure most politicians do not look favorably on it either. I admire teachers. They have a lot of mess to put up with these days. They cannot punish the poor little angels. We used to get our little hands spanked with rulers -- but not abused, just enough to hurt a little. I only got it one time in the second grade because I was helping the girl next to me spell a word on a spelling test. It made me think before I cheated again, but did not really hurt.
Teachers do not make enough money considering their responsibilities. No, I am not a teacher -- I once wanted to be, but with today's society, I am glad I am not. My youngest grandson is 10 years old and stays in trouble at school. His mother runs back and forth to the school and complains. She thinks he can do no wrong. She was not raised thinking this way. I do not have an answer to these situations, but most teachers are smart, and they are usually good people.
Hmmmm... I smell the NEA here... After the hung jury in the 1997 case and his credentials were reinstated, the school district was probably obligated by the Teacher's Union contract to put him back in the classroom. Probably no 'moral turpitude' clause in the contract. The NEA - fighting to keep pedophiles in our classrooms one stroke at a time!
Do you really believe what you posted......"fighting to keep pedophiles in our classrooms one stroke at a time"?
Yup. Seen it in two school districts within an hour of where I live. NEA fought tooth and nail for 1 male and 1 female teacher who, in separate incidents in separate districts, were accused of, and eventually plea bargained out of, sexual relations with H.S. students. One wasn't officially off the district's payroll until 4 months after the trial, and the other was on administrative leave, with pay, for 8 months after her trial. Incidents were about 3 years apart. Then there is the teacher who, despite video evidence from hidden cameras in the classroom, still has a job even though he would just let the H.S. kids he was supposed to be teaching use his classroom like an elementary recess, while he read the paper, surfed the internet, and watched movies on his laptop. All semester. According to students, for years. All the while turning in passing grades for the kids in his class. Union contract protected his job. Real concerned about your kids, aren't they? Makes all the good teachers look bad...
One of my favorite quotes " If it weren't for teachers, you couldn't do you job. They taught you to read, write and do math" This teacher in Calf should be put in prison. They love child molesters there. He can pay his penance there
This phony as a three dollar moral outrage is going to make me puke. The list of the many cases that supposedly happened are a dime a dozen and until somebody, for an unknown reason, years later wants to come out and spill the beans, why not the first time it happened?
There are plenty of cases out there that never happened cause one of the participants ran away, scream, kick somebody's balls, whatever, they did something and a bad situation never made past first base.
Actually, it was reported by the media that the lawyer that sued the Boston diocese pant's off had been approached by a priest and the lawyer to be said: No and guess what? Nothing happened to him. I don't believe this stale epiphanies that should have been reported long time ago. Yes, I know, earlier times were not these hypocritical and sex was viewed as something normal. If then it was a minor issue, why now it has become, specially for priests, a matter of life in prison. I know churches hate the catholic church for being the one and only and the one with more members, but that doesn't mean that Avis has to try harder to become number one. Maybe it's just plain envy.
Other point to consider: Reporting or not. One of the main accusations against the catholic church has to do with their "code of silence" and that priests were shuttled between churches to cover up wrong doings, but at the same time and how conventiently, they ignore that all others do it also. From the crooked cop to the corrupt banker, from the corrupt judge to the pedophile congress person and government must have a special manual in cover ups of war crimes, malfeasances and not one person, organization gives a rat's ass.
And why it is always the purported "victims" that come out smelling like roses, when we all know that to tango you have to have two and for every "victim", there has to be a willing victim.
I have been to many states, many countries and I have witnessed many "victims" that were having as much fun as the perpetrator. While stationed in California, I witnessed dozens and dozens of teenagers and pre teens that hang out around the barracks and were just waiting for the right guy or guys to have a ball. Actually, one time that I was present, I heard one of the minors tell another: Look at that bunch of dicks. They were looking at a bunch of dicks playing football.
The same media reported how a nine year old girl in, where else California, a pervert tried to kidnapped her and she kicked, she screamed and another guy passing in his truck saw the commotion and followed him and called 911 and they got the pervert put away. Now, how can this stories happend in a playground, a classroom where you could be heard just by moaning? I don't buy this moral lynching.
And to add insult to injury to this hypocritical morality lynching crowds, how come they don't sue the pants off the retard pervert's administration for killing a million of innocent civilians, mostly women and children, for oil and under false pretenses? Oh, there is a limit to that "moral outrage" and if the powers to be said we need "to look forward", where in the Constitution says the president has the power to ignore the mother lode of crimes against humanity? Ergo, if the government can't enact laws against religion, why the catholic church has to pay billions and our government that is not above the law why it gets away with murder and not just murder, but genocide and that is O.K.
And what I don't get to grasp is the double standard applied depending on the purported "victims." Why if the so called "victims" minors are under age to be able to discern between right and wrong on matters of sex, why if they kill someone, rape someone themselves they are tried as adults? This opinion based jurisprudence and morality appearance for justice's sake has to stop. In a democracy, it's understood that no one is above the law, ergo, why now even hundreds and possibly thousands are exempt from paying the pied piper?
I have witnessed cases where children were going out to have sex with married men, policemen and that didn't raise an eyebrow, but bring the priests, and regardless of the facts, they are sent to prison for life. Another case, a judge sentenced a veteran to 15 years for not only raping-remember rape means once-a minor and for having downloaded pictures of naked children and enter the guy who was selling pictures to provide for his children and he received 20 years for operating a driving thru. And why if it is a teacher and in some cases beautiful, they get house arrest? Something is definetely rotten in America today, or is it always have been this way? I don't know but according to deeds, this "justice" system reeks to high heaven.
@ Hell No 568603 -Spoken like a true child molester.
They say that guilty parties don't dare to mention the subject for being too close for comfort. I'm sorry, but something tells me that you are a child molester yourself. And why you ask? Something that I say you saw as too close for comfort and you as many morality lynchers hypocrites throw stones and hid their hands. But I understand, because as you love to deflate the truth, they use your same tactics. For example, when I speak for native Americans, or those "illegal" Mexicans that were here even before you or your ancestors ever tought of coming here, they call me, like you, an illegal. Or if you prefer, when I speak on defense of Muslims, guess what? They also call me a Muslim. When I defend Pvt Manning for trying to uphold the Constitution against Constitution slayers, guess what? I'm also called a traitor. When I mentioned that our "heroes" of today were called baby killers during the Viet Nam war, I'm also criticized. Well, Ms NO Manners and child molester herself, I understand, it goes with the territory. People, not that you can understand, when standing for the Constitution or the rights of others, they become the targets of feable minds like yours, but then again, I undeerstand. Why do you think Julian Assange is right now fighting extradition to Sweden for rape? You might say, but no Ms No manners, he is facing jail for showing that video of U.S. troops committing war crimes, attacking unarmed civilians. So, you better take a number, as you can see, telling the truth is a lonely job, but somebody has to do it. BTW, what was in my comment that makes you so mad. I need to really know where what I said made you so mad. BTW, let me give you more ammo for your hypocritical album: I was also against the Sandusky's "Victims" getting millions to live as the 1% and after 15 years of fun, sex, and job benefits. 15 years! And I guess you call that rape? Abuse? Don't worry Ms NO Manners, your secret is safe with me. BTW, could you tell me: Are you teacher or are you really Ms Mary Kay LeTourneau in disguise. Something in you and your comment tells me there is something there that doesn't add up. Now, if you would have said that somewhere I lied, or distorted the truth, then we have some basis to decipher, decode what made you so mad. I know truth hurts, but I didn't know it hurt that much.
Hell,
Your name speaks volumes. Either you were a victim of molestation and are upset that you didn't cash in. Or you have other serious issues. Go read what happens to the mindset of a CHILD who is a victim of ANY violent abuse.
Yes, there's injustices everywhere you look. But victims of Childhood abuse have just as much right for due justice.
Try to have a good Life. You sound like your suffering. Try getting some help. I'm glad I don't live in your World. But your an ADULT and free to have your opinion.
Good Luck.
You remind of a pinball, here, there, everywhere but never on target. Now, according to you that can't face the truth I'm now the "victim" of sexual abuse? Well, let me tell you Ms I can't handle the truth, I was approached by many a queer, but I screamed, fought, ran or did what I had to do, like the little girl of 9 in my story to get away. What you fail to realize is that children love to experiment with their bodies, just like you when you were a child. Tell me you don't know whose game is that starts with show me yours and I'll show mine? The problem here and I'm sticking to it, it is something that I said that came too close for comfort and that made your blood boil. I don't know where you've been or lived, but you sound like a tera partier that votes to deny queers their rights and it turns out he/she is, was the biggest drag queen on Earth.
There is something you don't want to address and it is the truth. So, you don't see any thing wrong with the "victims" going back for 15 years or depending on the cases, years later and still call him/her a "victim?" You must f**kicng kidding me. I said no, why others couldn't? And why not say, report the moment the "rape" happens but years later? The only way that I can picture, imagine your one liner, your hypocritical comments is that you've done it before. Again, too close for comfort and again that is the preferred way of tea partiers. Trying to appear what they are not and going after "minor pages" like tigers after their prey. You can see the world through that blurred prism of yours, I'll rather confront the truth, doesn't matter to me who can or can't handle the truth. I say potato, you say potahto, but don't expect me to be so stupid to believe, even if you think I'm a pedophile, that going back for decades, years over and over to be "raped, abused" constitutes a victim. When the millions come their way, would you still see them as victims or members of the 1%. What a dilemma for you, but for me it's a no brainer, like that other super coward of Wyoming used to say, any child, any age that goes back for seconds, thirds, year after year is no victim. I'm not that supid.
As for me getting help, I'm afraid but you are to me just another Mary Kay Lettourneau that can't stay away from children. BTW, do you know what her "victim" said to the judge, to the court? He didn't consider himself a victim. It was you, the moral lynchers that said he was a "victim." But to be frank, he wasn't expecting millions to come his way. Maybe if he could have known that he could get like the "victims" of the priests millions, he would have changed his mind and agree with you that he is a "victim." I guess you don't know all the things children, people won't do for money. Tea partiers, republicans would sell their own mothers for sure if the price is right But, then again, that is your problem. Actually you are the one that flew over the cuckoo's nest and need help, not tomorrow, but yesterday. The only thing that comes to me when dealing with people like you is the same problem that affects moral lynchers, they love to stone others to death and they are worse than the stonees.
Hell,
you confirmed my suspicion. You were a Victim. Just cause you weren't raped does not mean it did not effect you.
If your a Child and approached by an ADULT for their sexual gratification, they are called a Pedophile.
If you read your rant, you'll see you are still a Victim.
You don't know what sex I am. You don't know if I'm a Republican, Democrat or Martian.
No where did I accuse you of being a Pedophile.
You do have some serious misdirected anger issues.
What is with the Politics?
You Live in your World and I'll live in Mine.
Teachers cannot be blamed for all the wrong in classrooms. School systems probably need to check backgrounds better before hiring teachers. But parents need to be the ones training the kids. Teachers need to be teaching kids how to read and understand what they are reading, do math, science, etc. The children need to learn their values from parents. There are too many parents without values. Daddys need to be "Daddy" -- not just someone who happened to father a child -- and mothers need to be mothers -- not just a female out to find a man that is more attractive than what she already has -- or one that makes more money. My ex-husband's present wife has been married 7 times -- twice to him. She's not even attractive -- just uses her female anatomy right. Whoever said life is right or perfect?
Yes, I am going to solely blame the child molester for sexually abusing children. No one else is forcing them to behave in this disgusting manner.
I hate to say it but I think schools have become a place for child molesters, women and men alike to practice their harmful tendacies on our kids. It's rampant!
Not only sexual abusers but mental abusers as well, seems like more and more teachers these days really aren't interested in teaching our kids but tormenting them, they see it as just a job , not a passion to do something good with our/ their future!
Got news for you: there have always been these types of teachers. The difference is that it wasn't publicized like it is now.
All it would have taken was a simple background check for them to have known what type of person this was. They obviously didn't even take the least amt of time to try and protect the kids. Homeschooling is looking better and better!
@ Vince-1731459-
I think you're absolutely right! I mean, with what they pay them, who 'in their right mind' would want to do that job??!! They're obviously looking to get something other than money. And the school administrations seem to not care very much these days either. They either completely sweep it under the rug, or just move them to another school. I'm sickened!
well lets cut there pay some more then ..its the GOP way and everyone wonders why we cant get good teachers??
to give some credence to the people in the middle east if this crime was commited there this teacher and those who hired him and all those who knew what he was would be put to death. In the middle east they do not allow this or gays to exist in their society. These crimes and behaviours do not happen because the penaltys are to great.
1st of all one would expect this from a state that has more cities going bankrupt than any other place in the nation, a state where politicians are more concerned with the advances in medical weed than the education of our future, a state that would be better of if it fell into the pacific ocean. We in the state of Texas would have nipped it in the bud the very first time he would still be incarcerated if in Texas and I asssure you the things he did to those children would be happening to him in Texas Prisons. I personally dont understand why these girls have waited so long to bring this up my children tell me exactly what goes on through the course of their day and I as a parent know my children and when something is bothering them, why didnt the parents act out had that of been my children the case would have never made it to court I would have save the state all the court cost and taken care of it myself people in California need to get their priorities straight.
Right, cuz no children are getting molested in the south. LOL!
Well maybe you're right since everybody there gets married at 12.