They are fooling themselves if they think someone would let the girls go. I understand why they are trying, but unless this criminal wears their heart on their sleeve and doesn't have the stomach to kill then it's a long shot. Anyone capable with taking 2 little girls for whatever reason is certainly capable of killing them.

Unfortunately if they were kidnapped and are still alive the kidnapper isn't going to take any chances. Once you've seen the offender's face it is pretty much all over.

18wheeler,

Lolly is not a cold hearted bitch and your response is pure emotion while Lolly's response is very pragmatic and unfortunately accurate. Your comments about whether Lolly is a parent are nonsensical. I have spent the last 20 years working as a practitioner in psychiatry and I'm the mother of an 11 year old. My understanding of psychopathy/sociopathy lead me to educate my child to be aware at all times, to visit difficult scenarios and what they should do, and even talk to them about what type of person to look for in an emergency. Chance favors the prepared. I try and do all this matter-of-factly without increasing anxiety ...just part of my parent training, like "stay in school" and "always try your hardest even if you don't succeed this time". We have a standing joke in our house- 'Dinosaurs used to be the biggest predator', I ask my clever child, 'who is the biggest predator now'? The answer: Man.

Dont hold any hope! what do you think happened to them! of course some sicko took them away or who knows what he or she did to them! I wouldn t be surprise to hear them found sead some where!

I feel sick in my stomac already... we live with sick monster people... there is something deffinitly wrong with this country but we keep ignoring it because no one want to go back to the source of this whole problem because again every one benefits from it.... so sick yo

Wow 18wheeler - you're nuts! Lolly didn't say anything bad. Unfortunately, she's probably right. If they don't find a child within the first 24 hours - chances are they aren't going to find them alive. You owe Lolly a big apology.

It lightens my heart to see this family have so much faith in the Lord. And to be able to forgive the person that has hurt them as no other person could is just amazing.

I will keep the faith going and pray that these two beautiful girls are found safe and returned to their loving family.

"The families of two missing Iowa girls said Tuesday they fear the girls may have been abducted, even as authorities continued to drain a lake in hopes of finding them."

So they HOPE to find them in the lake? That doesn't sound very encouraging. There are many scenarios in which the children may be alive, it will take good police work to find them.

Unfortunately, I believe that it's highly likely that the girls were taken. Also unfortunately, these girls are of the age that they would be prime targets for sex trafficking. It's absolutely horrific, but it's sadly the case. The cops can go ahead and drain the lake in hopes of finding something and to be "100% sure+, but I do hope that concurrently they are running an investigation into the possibility of kidnapping. Because if they WERE taken, there's very little time to get a lead on their abductors.

It's GREAT that we can pass absolute judgement on someone we have never met, because we read an article on the internet, written by someone who has never met the victims...or the suspect(s)...or us, because we have been all inflamed and pissed off over speculation..

I hope and pray that the girls are safe.

They're trying to get their girls back.

You seem to enjoy the cruelty of your remarks far to much. I find your attitude appalling and sadly I cannot make up people like you, as you exist.

Go back to sleep Sadie.

Classy comment. Great demonstration of compassion for a family going through everyone's worst nightmare. You can't just make up stuff like this kind of response!

Hey, I guess I just see the world from a different angle - I'd be praising the law enforcement and community for helping me look for my kid and be mentioning nothing of forgiveness to any who may have taken my kid as of yet.

Talking of God's great love or forgiveness is actually doing nothing to get either of the girls back. If my kid were missing, I'd find no comfort anywhere and wouldn't relax until I found them.

I find no comfort in my remarks or my observations. I don't think they are cruel either.

Just as I don't think "God" will have anything to do with these girls being found or returned - it will be the hard work of the people trying to find the kids and possibly luck.

As said before, Go back to sleep Sadie.

I'm with sadie.. The prayers give the parents comfort but do nothing to help find the missing girls.

Statisically speaking, too much time has passed for a safe return. I hope this is not the case.

You know, maybe they are also appealing a potential kidnappers conscience. It can't hurt.

A potential kidnapper's conscience? hahahahha

My pops (rip) was Chief of Investigations for the PD he worked for (and he taught Sunday School and went to church every day). He always said - they can ask God for help, but until he puts a uniform on, they need me.

sleepinsadie....

I'm sure you have to pat yourself on the back over your calling out of someones religious beliefs over the internet.

Hey I got off a good internet zinger today over a woman who was missing her children and God. Take that religious people. Just because you don't believe doesn't give you the freedom to speculate on someone else faith.
You childish fool. Those kids are probably dead but you just couldn't wait to take a potshot.

You sound like Westboro Baptists protesting a soldiers funeral. Which means you lack empathy or compassion.

Really Sadie?? "and he taught Sunday School and went to church every day" ~ AND Chief of Investigations??? Next you will be telling us all how he lived in a world with 35 hours in a day, instead of like the rest of us stuck with only 24 hours....Not sure you are too believable....and I even question that he always said ~ they can ask God for help but (blah, blah) they need me. That statement can go for hundreds of people...we need the farmer to eat, power company for electricity, etc., etc., etc.... I'd say that was a pretty pompous statement (if it was even said by him)....like he is above God???? Sounds like you are now making up stories about your own family....

I don't pat myself on the back for jack. I didn't call out their religious beliefs or tell them not to believe - I commented on my thoughts, which, you know, is what this type of board is for.

Comparing my doing this to a religious groups protesting at soldiers funerals hating gays is entirely different - hey, even a childish fool like me knows that. But hey, I guess you lack comparative skills and understanding of issues.

But I guess you lack empathy or compassion also, cause I don't see you mentioning anything about helping or supporting, you just blasted me - and if that makes you feel better, cool.

Did I say anything about wanting the girls hurt? Or not caring? Or, well, anything like that? I feel no great need to spout empathy or compassion on an internet message board - I use those things in actual one-on-one instances when it means something.

Me-23895145, This is wonderful. If they pray hard enough they will get a miracle. I hav prayed for this to happen before and the abductor gave up and let the child loose to give back to the parents.

No Me-2395145, I just pulled that out of my butt for the heck of it.

I'm not sayin the dude was perfect, he was what he was - and to be honest, he went over-board on the God stuff and I didn't talk to him for years.

Believe me or not, I don't care, as I know the truth - damn, that sounds religious right there.

How can I help or support....but...I do the only thing I CAN do...I hope that those children will be found safe. By your logic what is anyone doing on a message board when they could be there in person?

And my comparisons are not different despite you wanting them to be. They are people with a different opinion who take advantage of an opportunity, no matter what people personally involved may believe, to throw their own opinions out in an inflammatory way. How is that not what you did?

You must be from the new school of debate...throw things back and hope they stick. But, keep believing your OWN beliefs on religion didn't cause you to post a caustic comment. Only hypocrites can be so dense in their reasoning when they throw around their opinions.

Where did I say I hoped they weren't found safe?

But I can tell you this - if they are found safe it will be due to hard work and possibly luck and have nothing to do with God. If God has the time to be involved in finding them safe then he/she should do it now and have them found or better yet, not let them be abducted in the first place.

I guess I see a difference cause I said something on an internet chat board and didn't go to protest at someone's funeral over something that has absolutely nothing to do with the death. If you really think I'm like Westboro, you're quite overly dramatic.

My beliefs on religion are this - I don't know if there's a God or 10 Gods or 100 Gods. If there are any Gods up there, he/she/they are doing a pretty crappy job of overseeing where this place they created is going and if he/she/they can truly perform miracles, now would be a great time to show one to the populace of the world. But, if he/she/they are just sitting up there looking down and laughing at all the bad that's happening to good people and how others are using their name to keep others down and in some cases, be killing, then that's a God I don't really want to associate with - as is said - with great power comes great responsibility - he/she/they (if exist) have unmeasureable power and seem to not be as responsible as they could with it.

I'm sorry that this has happened, and I truly hope for a safe outcome for these young girls and their families. If the result is not, well, in my religion, God does not ever forgive crimes against young children!!

The statements they made: "...my husband and I have forgiven them...God has forgiven them....we just want our children back safe and sound...we don't even want to know who the person is....just turn them lose" certainly does reflect their religious beliefs but I also think these are very cunning statements to make in a situation like this. They're appealing to the emotion of the abductors (even though it's hard to imagine they have any), offering forgiveness and a way out. There was an abduction in British Columbia last year of a 4 year old boy and the parents did the same thing. A few days later the abductor broke into their home during the night and left their son sitting on the couch. It's amazing that the little boy was returned unharmed. Let's hope their words have the same effect.

Barlow, I thought god forgave all?

Sleepinsadie, agree with most of what you say. And as you stated, if one believes in a god that will aid in a safe return (which I hope and pray there is), why wouldn't one believe in a god that prevents this from ever happening?

Jesus H Christ give your sadie bashing bull@!$%# a rest will you, I don't care if they pray until it rains or the cows come home, but it does sound stupid to me when people just cling to their beliefs and God is never called out when tragedy strikes. Does anyone bash God when the outcome is not favorable, or is that the time you blame it on the Devil. Good grief it was so idiotic listening to what some of these people were saying regarding prayer and God.

Keep your bible to yourself and know you sound foolish when you invoke God into things he wouldn't give a flying @!$%# about anyway. The idiot Governor of my state (Illinois) told people to pray for rain.

Good luck with that too, I hope the girls are found safe, but know it had zero to do with prayer or God.

A whole thread on religous debate. Thought this about two missing girls in Iowa. I must be on the wrong article, damn stupid clicker.

Sadie,

I think maybe most of the hostility you are receiving isn't from the fact that you are skeptical about the "God's plan" party line. Believe me, I don't buy it either.

But you came off as callous & cold hearted when you criticized the mom for saying it. She's grieving. Give her a break!

@sleepinsadie - you have made this post about you, you keep talking about yourself and your opinion (which you are entitled too) but they NOTHING to do with this story... classic narcissism.

I don't believe in an omnipresent God, no matter the religion (although I respect those who do believe...as long as they respect me & my more "spiritual" outlook, which I have found that tolerance begets tolerance, sorry, that you haven't figured that out yet)-

but at this time when two young girls are missing, WHO ARE YOU?? to tell them their religion or YOUR thoughts on it??

I HOPE with all my heart the girls are found safe - that's a secular statement, it is MY statement, the difference between the two of us, is that I DO HOPE, against HOPE that they are safe - why can't you leave it at that and not make this about YOU?

This is not about religion, it is about two 8 and 10 year old girls who have disappeared.

It's so not about you. - you seem to have God envy... that doesn't even make you secular, but again, back to narcissistic tendencies!

Sparkles - When you're in a nightmarish situation that is completely out of your hands, you do whatever you can to keep your sanity.

First off my heart grieves for these families. Being from a small town in Iowa I know how the whole communtiy is pulling together to help. Each of the people searching probably has personal ties to these two families. Second, God only forgives those who ask for forgiveness. He doesn't just pour it out on everyone. You all can believe whatever you want. That's why we live in the United States. I believe that God absolultely has His hand in all of this and if the girls are returned to their families or not it is according to His plan. We may not understand why and probably never will, but I thank God that these are believing families and that they will be able to lean on their faith to get them through this terrible time.

Actually Black Kettle...other people made it about me. If you look at my original comment, I did not say anything about myself at all - but then people who commented made direct comments about me, all I have done is respond to those comments. I made one simple comment about something I read and was called troll, cruel, insensitive, etc...and then you top it off by saying it's not about me and then telling me about me. Notice I didn't judge you for your thoughts or what you posted. And you're right, this isn't about religion, but then again, I'm not the one who brought God into it (which was my original observation).

In case you didn't notice - this is an internet chat board, so for you to say - Who are you to tell to tell them their religion or your thoughts on it - is f'n ridiculous. This is the place to make comments on a story in the news, I haven't said one thing directly to the people who's children are missing and if they are looking here for support or to have their beliefs validated, they are insane and should not be spending one second reading this stuff and every possible second looking for their children.

Well, Sadie, some of us try to uphold the CoH, and not use your "f'n ridiculous" attitude, but you do you....

Have a nice a life, most likely alone... please don't breed if this is your response....because I think I hit a nerve.

Have a great day, and back on topic, I HOPE THE GIRLS ARE FOUND AND OK!

Sadie - you have a right to your opinion. You shouldn't be attacked either. It's just a really touchy & emotional subject - I mean these little girls - not the "God" issue. You are right..you can't make this stuff up & others may also be right that you will never get it. You should be left to your beliefs. If someone could explain why God let's bad things happen, then THAT person would be God. Some of us are waiting faithfully for that answer from God himself.

So, I'm tryin to understand the CoH - does that mean you start judging someone and calling them names if they post something you don't agree with or like? Wow, that's honorable. Honorable may have been - hey, don't judge someone or resort to name calling because they posted an observation on a story.

I hope you have a great life also - though I don't wish you to go through it alone, because that's just not nice. Funny that you say 'breed' when you have a pic of a dog (who looks wonderful by the way), though hey, maybe you're covered in peanut butter tryin to have fun with that dog right now (don't worry, I'm not serious about that).

You hit no nerve, I just felt like conversing on a chat board when people replied to me with responses back - boredom can do strange things to a person.

And as you said - I hope the girls are found safe and returned to their parents.

@goldi111 - well said! We may or may not have the same religious beliefs but this is about two little girls who have been gone a long time... your statement was very respectable! Thank you. I know in our own way, we both hope for the safety of these children.

Of course this is about these girls and their families. I hope they are found safe and that their families find the strength to make it through this difficult time. I have to make that clear but I also wanted to add something.

I might be in the minority but I did not have an issue with Sadie's comments. She shared her thoughts. She never wished harm on the girls or told believers they should not believe. It would be a different story if she did those things, as I have seen others do it and I didn't care for their posts. Either way, she did not so I think the rest of you should be looking in the mirror before you mention any CoH.

Stop feeding the troll that is Sadie. She wanted to mock people dealing with grief. Dont give her any more of your time.

I would agree however that things look grim. If the girls saw his/her/their face(s) there is close to zero chance they will be let go.

Sorry but I didn't see a troll named Sadie but I could easily name a few others. Good day all.

I agree, Sadie. Can you get more naive or clueless? "We forgive them already and so does God.."

Please. Makes me want to heave. They were kidnapped by a heartless predator who doesn't care a whit about what the parents say or feel or believe.

sad but true

Unfortunately, these things usually don't end well.

@John - I agree these things don't end well, but don't tie your wagon to Sadie who says, "hahahahah" at it....

It doesn't matter what the parent's belief system is.... I don't believe in "God," but is this the time to hash it out, to say to the parents, who are looking for anything they can to stay sane that they are mistaken in their "God".... IS THIS THE TIME YOU AND SADIE WANT TO BASH THEM? Cruel, just cruel.

WHILE TWO GIRLS 10 AND 8 HAVE DISAPPEARED?

Shame on you both!

in America most of kidnappings end up dead because most of those Americans who does s h i t like this! dont have conciseness, no moral, no respect, no disregard for others, no human quality and no faith at all. They are worse than animals and Hell is waiting for them and please dont tell me Jesus going to bless them and forgive them! please save that sh it because even Jesus doesnt buy it.

This country is in deep sh i t but we re too excited with the freedom we have and rights that it s hurting us big time but we dont car!

MAXEEMAS,

How do you know what Jesus buys or doesn't buy???? I am guessing that you really don't know him or her personally or if there really is one.

Also...spellchecker and an English class please.

What you know from NY? They say people who lives in big cities dont really see the big picture! I dont think you get the gravity fo the cituation here! I feel sorry for you, I wish I can help...

Or maybe she had some serious sedatives on board.

I'd go with the sedatives and exhaustion and trying to keep up hope, it would make anybody look like a smiling zombie.

Jen, I felt the same way when I saw that interview. I kept trying to be understanding and put myself in her shoes but I couldn't come up with a reason for how she was acting. I'm absolutely not saying that she had anything to do with it but I really did find it weird.

The whole situtation is more of a nightmare then I could ever comprehend so I really don't want to judge how the family is coping.

But it was weird.

And do any of you morons have children missing????? Who in the hell are you to judge ???I would like to see you silly bitches thrown on tv and see what newsvine says about you... @!$%# off you bitches.

I don't feel it is a bad choice of words. Families need closure and although it would be horrible if the girls were in the lake, that sense of closure would help the families and allow them to begin the grieving process and their lives.

I thought we had more technology than draining a lake. What about sonar, I mean the most sophisticated fish finder is equipped with real good imaging sonar.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Poor choice of words but not the 1st with MSNBC.

"Site". Really? Try "sight".

Does making yourself a spellchecker make you feel more inteligent then you actually are? If so, you're delusional.

Oh great we have a visit from the spelling police D-bag.

I will never understand why people get the idea....if a person corrects another....that somehow they feel superior or more intelligent.than everyone else. For example. Pixie...your "then" should actually be "than". "Then" refers to time while "than" is used when making comparisons as you did. Does it make me feel more intelligent? No. But since I do know the difference, I like to help those who might not know. Why? Because I would want someone to help me the same way. After all, if English is your first language, you should want to speak and write it to the best of your ability. If you don't care to, then why would you care if people correct you? 9 times out of 10 I have seen people do so politely just to inform someone.

I had the same feeling, it was as if the one mom was excited to be on TV, the 2nd mom looked haggered but the one doing all the talking was animated and smiling - strange.

Their babies are missing for 4 days now, I am sure their emotions are all over the place, give them a frickin break!

Emotions like I hope we don't get caught, or I wish I had kept my temper in check.

I have no evidence implicating the parents, but it sure happens alot.

I certainly wouldn't rule them out.

Iowans smile. Its what they do. They smile at every person they see, whether they know them or not, whether they feel like it or not. Its the culture, its ingrained in their mannerisms. Its how they perceive politeness in others. Its a reflex. Most Iowans will smile with tears in their eyes at funerals, should someone engage them, trying to make the other person feel better. Or as an attempt to show that even though they are devastated, that they appreciate your kind gesture.

I watched the interview, and noticed the blond mother smiled mostly as a response to being in agreement with the things being said (another typically Iowan response) and also when she was speaking with love and admiration about the children.

No, that is NOT what Iowans do. Southerner's? Yes, they would be guilty of doing this.

You cannot generalize that ALL IOWANS SMILE at all people. Maybe that is ingrained into YOUR life and you would smile if YOUR kid was just abducted BUT most Iowans would not. Most people would NOT.

You tell me that I cannot generalize what Iowans do and then turn around and generalize what a third of the country, or Southerner's, do?

Genius response.

I (and everyone else in the world) will generalize all we want, thanks.

Too many people. There's always going to be a percentage of the population that just ain't right in the head, they increase with population increase.

rollin

while its true the avenue of the saints ( 218) rolls by there, Evansville is a stones throw from Waterloo and cedar rapids/ cedar falls, the local truck stop and food joints are not that close to the lake.Still........

I have the same thoughts Rolling ziggs, too close to interstate and 218, Thats where they should be searching. People on interstate,glance into the back seats of cars passing by you, look for scared girls...rest areas, look for two scared girls!

RollinZiggs, you should become a detective!

Couldn't have grabbed them from highway. there is an 8-12ft fence around the lake on 218 side.

They didnt grab them from the highway. The person rolled into town from the highway for liquor and smokes. After he spotted the girls while he was driving to the store he made an extra stop in the park and said he lost his puppy or one of the lies preditors use to lure kids.

RollinZiggs,

If you saw all this happen, why didn't you stop it? And first you say "they didn't grab..." and then "the person rolled...". Well, which is it? Did one person do it or more than one? I'm not sure the cops are buying your story about the predAtor (with an "A").

B from NY

oops,,, my bad. thank goodness you spotted that!

1 I didn't see it from PA

2 They 'rolled' into the area,, stopped rolling(aka parked),,,got out of the car,,, walked a bit,,, then grab/lured/forced

3 It could have been 1 or 2 people

Sorry I posted some of my gut feelings in this little kingdom or words that you police so well. Please forgive me. I bow to thee and your superior grasp of the english language.

THANK YOU B!!! you are the best. I vote that you should be paid for your wonderful service. You're so good at it.

RollinZiggs, reading your dumb-a$$ posts give me a chill.

According to the new conference I saw they have talked with and cleared all registered sex predators. I have a feeling that they will not be found alive. With the bikes on one side of the fence and one of the girl's purse on the other side of the fence it could mean they tried swimming in their clothes. I hope I am wrong and the girls are found safe and unharmed.

Right on the money cdviking1, if people have any common sence at all, any brains they should be smart enough not to believe in made up stories, do these people believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, Sandman, Tooth fairy also.

Not made up there is proof of Jesus. A higher power, people like you is why this world is becoming so evil and violent!

Regardless of what you think, they believe and have hope, that is all can have at this point. Liberal judges and lawyers and law makers are to blame, becasue I can bet if they were abducted, or murdered, the person most likely (per statistics) is a repeat offender.

Tougher punishments will stop some of this.

For the most part, I understand what you're saying - but if I were to ask - do you want to leave this in the hand's of God and take all law enforcement and others from looking or leave God out of it and have as many people searching for these kids as possible - which would you choose?

I know people find comfort in their God, but I don't think I'd find comfort anywhere if my child went missing.

A M E N Sam!

I completely agree Sam.

Sadie, I believe God created certain people to be able to solve these crimes and find these girls. These families are not asking for you to take on their beliefs, they are praying because it is what they know to do. When all is said and done I'm sure they will thank God as well as thanking the people that helped in their search, but right now they are clinging to God. Leave them be.

I'm sorry, but I've got to ask - if you believe God created certain people to be able to solve these crimes then do you also believe that God created certain people to commit them? I mean, why create people to solve them if you aren't going to give them the opportunity to solve them. And that, to me, makes God slightly crazy.

No I do not believe that. I don't mean that God specifically created these people to solve awful crimes. I believe God created them with problem solving skills, creative thinking and an ability to think outside the box. I don't believe God created anyone to do harm, he created us to do good but with the ability to make our own choices. Unfortunately I believe some people make clearly awful choices.

You make it sound like we're some sort of video game for God.

Sadie,

Still agreeing with most of what you say. Some of these posts state that god has a hand in everything. And if this god is as great as some of these people are saying, why would he have a hand in something as awful as this happening?

And I don't know how Jaycee Dugard survived all those years and if her believing in "whatever" got her through it, then that is great. But, did this 'god' actually want her and her family to suffer all those years and then one day decide that they have had enough and return her to her family?

Really though...why does it matter to you if other people say they believe, or if they say they forgive another person?! Who are you or anyone anyone else to criticize them?! These parents are doing the best they can to cope, and hoping their little girls will be brought home safe!

Steve K - How do you know that God doesn't exist? What proof do you have of that?

Althought it is certainly sad when things like this happen, the mere fact that they happen does NOT mean that God doesn't care. It is simply that He will not always prevent them from happening, and in fact allows them to happen to provide an appropriate judgement upon those who are capable of such heinous acts.

Also..., although He certainly could have prevented what may have occurred in this case, He has given those responsible the free agency to make the decisions as they have chosen to make them. That is required by His plan for all of us - everyone will be judged for the choices that they make, and the resulting actions that they take. And it is supposed that He will not intervene, unless it is part of His higher plan to do so. Unfortunately, we many times don't know the intricate details of that plan.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of these girls. It is my hope and prayer that they will return home safely - with both the efforts of the police and other authorities, AND the inspiration and guidance of God upon them.

Oh, and I hope that you are still alive when you discover that He is actually NOT a fairy tale.

Jerald K,

Dumb-a$$ comment.

Everyone will be judged by the choices they make? Do you think that these 2 little girls chose this to happen? And if so, how will they be judged??? Was it his plan for this to happen? So he "allows" this to happen to certain people and not others just to test them?? Really? And we at many times don't know the intricate details of "his" plan? Does that mean other times we DO know? If so, please share. Or at least tell me how somebody can find out what the plan is.

B from NY - I could take offense from your comment, but I will not. And I will respond to it, but my concern is that you will not hear much of what I say to you. My answers are below:

Everyone will be judged by the choices they make?

Yes, it is my belief that there will be a judgement - and you can believe that too - or not, that is for you to decide.

Do you think that these 2 little girls chose this to happen?

No, of course the two girls, or any other victim of a crime, or person involved an accident, or killed, or otherwise affected, by a natural disaster doesn't "choose [it] to happen" (however, I was not referring to the choices of the girls)

And if so, how will they be judged???

The same as everyone else, althought they will be much better off than whoever may have taken them.

Was it his plan for this to happen?

No, it was not.

So he "allows" this to happen to certain people and not others just to test them??

Yes, he allows whatever happens to happen, unless it is in His divine purposes to do otherwise.

Really? And we at many times don't know the intricate details of "his" plan? Does that mean other times we DO know? If so, please share. Or at least tell me how somebody can find out what the plan is.

Yes. It is my belief that we can each receive personal guidance and revelation of the details of His plan for us - individually, depending on the level of spirituality that we choose to maintain. Can we know every detail to be shielded from disaster, despair, or even death? Likely not, however we can be more prepared for those events, when or if they come.

Even the smallest bit of faith that this could be true is the starting point, and prayer is the action that will provide the answers - if someone has a real desire to know.

Jerald-you are freaking crazy man!! how do I know this because all of the stuff your saying you just made up in your head, this is not something that is in a book, taught at school, did God come down and tell you this, YEAH RIGHT, WHERE IS HE, ON THE MOON.

8 and 10 is really not too young to be riding bikes alone.

@ Tricia in today's world 13 is even too young. Heck I won't even go for a jog by myself. That's just how it is.

Tricia - 8 and 10 years olds are capable of riding their bikes by themselves. Kids need to be outside, riding bikes, running around, playing baseball, etc. If they were kidnapped it is not the kids' fault or the grandma's fault. It was the grandma that saw the cousins last. It would be the low life that took these kids. Hope they are found soon so the family can rejoice or begin to heal.

I don't think the girls are in the lake. There is no mention of shoes being found with their stuff. I could be wrong, but I would think that if they went for a swim the girls would have taken their shoes off.

I am hoping they just got lost, and they will be found and be ok!!!

From the interview I saw on Nancy Grace it seems as if you are correct. Sounds like there is a fence around the lake. The bikes on one side and a purse belonging to the girls on the other side of the fence close to the water. I use to ride my bike without shoes so they may not have had shoes on.

Why does a pedophile have to be a man?

Often times it is not!

Jester99, I don't know but I think the odds are slim to none that a women did this. I'd think the girls could be at the kidnappers place or a family members house or a friends but they seem to hard to control.

Maybe the girls just got lost! Why do people always always assume the worst?! The police have already said they have not found any signs of foul play.

The video footage shows a paved trail path I think they were on and I think they knew the path they were biking, they are young and most likely would not start a new trail they did not know. It seems more like they were taken from that area, why would they leave there bikes and cell phone. Someone must of cohered the girls into a vehicle. The 8 year old may of got tired and that could have gotten them to slow down or stop at an area. I don’t think they are in the lake myself. The kidnapper could have them at his place is what I’d think of first. Or he took them to another wooded area or place you could hangout and hide. It is the sound from a house that makes me think they are not in a house. They could be dead because the kidnapper did not want to do all the work in keeping two young girls. Lyric sounds to be over weight and that is why she likes to bike this trail to lose weight, she may have been doing this once a week. There could be more then one person involved in this kidnapping or helping, like the Elizabeth Smart case. Lyric could have been being watched as she rode her bike by someone to lose weight for as long as she had been biking this trail. Lyric could have had Elizabeth to go with her for fun and support to lose weight but Elizabeth had some trouble, being to small. I don’t know but someone who travels the roads around this area or uses this area on foot or witha bike could have taken them. It could have been a family member or friend but why did the bikes stay there and the tossed phone. It is a very open subject rate now and there is no real idea on why the girls are gone.

If Lyric was having a weight problem and was using bike paths to lose weight, it could be a family member or friend or church member or a co worker of one of the parents. It would be someone the parents had talked to or around about the weight issue and the want to lose weight. It could be a stranger too though and it is tough to tell who it was that took the girls.

You sure do have a lot of info James. maybe we should call the cops on you and have your house searched just to make sure

smartone-2729650, I don't live in Iowa or in a 24 hour driving distance and I don't have any thing wrong in my house. What do you think happened to the girls?

Im just sayin that you have a lot of knowledge on the case at hand

I guess, why are they checking the lake? Did the families and children swim there some times? No one has said yet, so who knows why.

JamesPupp,

You seem to know an awful lot about the details of what happened? Was it you?

Right on the Money npeck- if there is a God, where is he while little kids are being hurt, there have been Mothers putting there Babies in Microwaves and cooking them, AGAIN WHERE WAS GOD, UP IN THE SKY WATCHING AND LAUGHING, yes God needs to be fired and put in PRISON because if he is real, he is a Murderer, the worst criminal in history, the biggest serial killer EVER!!!!!!!!!!!.

God is a concept, by which we measure our _______________________— (fill in the blank)

"But if you ask me, if there was a "god", why do things like this happen EVERY DAY?"

God does not direct our every move or action. God simply gave us free will, to use it as we may. How we use our free will determine how we are judged in the here after.

Am I right? I don't know, but I choose to live my life as if I am right.

In case you missed it:

Steve K - How do you know that God doesn't exist? What proof do you have of that?

Althought it is certainly sad when things like this happen, the mere fact that they happen does NOT mean that God doesn't care. It is simply that He will not always prevent them from happening, and in fact allows them to happen to provide an appropriate judgement upon those who are capable of such heinous acts.

Also..., although He certainly could have prevented what may have occurred in this case, He has given those responsible the free agency to make the decisions as they have chosen to make them. That is required by His plan for all of us - everyone will be judged for the choices that they make, and the resulting actions that they take. And it is supposed that He will not intervene, unless it is part of His higher plan to do so. Unfortunately, we many times don't know the intricate details of that plan.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of these girls. It is my hope and prayer that they will return home safely - with both the efforts of the police and other authorities, AND the inspiration and guidance of God upon them.

Oh, and I hope that you are still alive when you discover that He is actually NOT a fairy tale.