Do the math:

$1 billion proposed for this boondoggle,

minus $100 million for schools to "develop plans",

minus $441 million for teacher bonuses (a generous assumption that there will be 50 qualifying teachers the first year, 4,000 the 2nd year, 8,000 the third year, and 10,000 the fourth year),

leaving $459 million for "government administration and oversight."

Arne Duncan presided over one of the worst districts in the country. He has no business profiting from any Federal Department. The Department of Education is a waste. It does nothing to promote American Students in K-12 other than to take resources away from states in order to award Districts that fall in loch step with this Administration.

Dissolve the Department of Education reduce Federal Taxes and let that money go back to states to develop their own programs.

The President certainly slaps teachers and Universities in the face with this expansion...If the Department of Education would stop the red tape that districts had to wade through just to recoup tax payer dollars an administrative pallor would be removed and districts could streamline and put more money back into the classroom instead of feeding Districts to be administratively top heavy. Take the intrusive rules that tie the hands of teacher away and we will find that America has an incredible workforce of well educated, innovative and professional teaching force.

It is time that we allow School districts to serve the public and not the overindulged Department of Education. Give the function back to States and States will become competitive again.

Vote Democrat in November! Romney said he would get rid of funding for education. One of the current choices for VP is NJ's Governor Krispie and he slashed police, fire, education all to give tax cuts to his rich buddies.

This will be the way of the USA if you vote for Romney - you will be praying you can afford the For Hire police when they get rid of the Socialist Police paid for by tax dollars.

By the way...if tax dollars pay for the military then our capitalist nation is protected by the world's largest socialist army. Think about that when you scream "socialist"

I see the problems differently, so here's my perspective with examples.

My Niece will be attending The Citadel on a full academic scholarship this fall. In the United States she attended public schools, however they spent most of her youth in Japanese Schools. I bring this up to give examples of how the US Education System is failing.

1. In Japanese Schools they have zero tolerance for anything other than academic focus. Students that screw up are gone, period! You earn your way back. In America we spend all our time trying not to offend anyone, everyone must be taught!

2. Japanese school days are about half as long, they don't waste time on BS Classes, that is done on by Parents at home. Core studies Math, Language and Science are the focus.

3. Japanese Parents hold their children accountable or they are held accountable, PERIOD.

The end result, My Niece comes back to the USA at 12 years old, she has basically completed our equivalence of High School. She goes to an American High School and graduates with Honors, why? Because her foundation was so solid.

These are facts, not rhetoric. So let your kids watch MTV Crap, worship people like Snookie and watch the results. We see what its brought us..

Here is fun information...

http://www.examiner.com/article/what-rankings-for-chicago-public-schools-say-about-the-debate-of-public-versus-private-schools

The Professional in charge of the Department of Education is a failure of epic proportions give the low ratings of the majority of schools in his District....The President and First Lady enrolled their children in private education instead of trusting them to the current head of the Department of Education, Arne Duncan. Even in the First Lady's day Chicago schools were such a mess and she along with her brother participated in a Magnet Program instead of trusting Education at the district level. One could ask how they managed to be accepted in the program but you don't have to look too far beyond her Fathers participation in the DNC.

So why are we going to trust anything arising from this administration in regard to Education. Why is the Department of Education allowed to be politicized and create a whole pay to play scheme for Education Dollars?

According to this article only 30 districts have applied to participate in this 1 trillion dollar program. Perhaps the districts are getting wiser to the money pit this administration is creating. I would thing there are many middle class taxpayers who would prefer to have their share of that 1 trillion dollars back in their accounts so that they can make an informed decision on education.

Tax dollars can be spent wisely....FYI my children go to one of the top 10 in the nation and our Super Attendant has made some very poor choices with regard to tax dollars and cuts at the classroom level as well as making poor choices on new school locations. Imagine what could happen if Districts actually stood up to become accountable at the local level. Ours assuming accountability...we voted in new members to the school board and gosh the broom has begun to sweep out the old...my guess is we will get someone in who puts children above their personal agenda and we will climb higher in that top 10.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan said he hopes politics won't interfere.

Was there any consideration as to where the money will be found? Everyone wants educated kids (that may come as a surprise to those who only write unbelievable statements about the opposing side). Who do we take the money from? The CBO states that the removal of the reduced tax rate for $250K and above only pays for a few days of our government. Thus, it looks like we need to replace some other expenditures in order to accomplish this type of education. Should we be first looking for the money before making big statements - unless this is another election year vote grab?

Silly kids. Education is only for the well-to-do.

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Romney said in the debates that her would get rid of the Department of Education.

I wonder which candidate is moving the country forward?"

I guarantee Oblameo is NOT moving this country forward with this bit of pandering to the NEA and AFT! The only thing he doing with this little maneuver is trying to buy teachers' votes in November.

As for Romney's statement on education, you need to reread the whole thing, not just one sentence out of it. Romney wants to put education back into the hands of states and local school districts.

Government regulation and the money filter of Washington are the bane of good education in this country! My wife taught Behaviour Development and Learning Disabilities for years before moving into the private education field. When she started, she began seeing students early in September actually teaching them. She stopped teaching them in late May to write and file her reports. By the time she quit to raise our children, she could not teach students until October because of all the government regulations that had to be complied with. She had to stop teaching them in late April to begin writing and filing all the extra reports that the Department of Education required by that time.

The Department of Education at the national level is a bad joke on the American people. The only things it does are to filter money through the bureaucracy (losing a big chunk of it in the process) and pile on more regulations and reports every year. Teachers unions have pretty much paralyzed the efforts of outstanding teachers that want to teach, like to teach, and want their students to succeed.

Our daughter has been teaching for 14 years now. When she started, she taught her students to think, evaluate, synthesize, and create rather than just regurgitating facts and memorized tables. Now she has to teach to the tests that students are required to pass in order to advance. That is why she will be quitting at the end of the next school year: frustration with the system and all the extraneous requirements that take away from actually teaching the children.

Consider how our education system provided for students 40 years ago and compare it with today and how incredibly dumbed-down our system is now. That is why we can't compete in math, sciences, and engineering with the rest of the world.

Good move by the president...

We are so far behind in education compaired to the rest of the world, it's sad really.

Not to mention we pay teachers like sh1t in this country.

Well said Mike!

The Obama administration announced Wednesday morning plans to develop a national science, technology, engineering and math teaching corps – pending a $1 billion commitment from Congress.

The Pander-in-Chief sure has his "visions" of "Forward" and "Betting on America" campaign slogans screwed up.

Heya, Mr. Obama......CHECK THE NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK. Where do you think Congress will find the money to support this boondoggle ? Taxing the RICH AGAIN ?

Another DEFLECTION article. Wow, the Community Organizer's On-the-Job Training sure is taking a long time to kick in. Looks like Harvard graduates just have a "minor" problem with reality.

I dont give a darn who interferes. Have you noticed that Asians are the fastest growing immigrant because we are so weak in STEM subjects? Also, I am not a teacher, but do know that Asians go to the same classes our kids do an out perform them. Why? because education is a priority in their homes. Stop blame the teachers and look at yourselves. Turn off your kid's TV and computers and cell phones and make them study. Hire a tutor instead of that new car or big screen TV. Asians spend 25% of thei income on their kids education while we spend money to try and keep up with the Jones. My brother is a math teacher and a Korean Church pays him during the Summer to tutor their kids. What are you doing with your kids during the Summer? Yet you sit back and whine about the teachers and this man's effort to correct US lack of initiative.

There is an office building in my neighborhood full of Asians because too many people didnt make education a priority in their kids' lives, but want to blame teachers. My son's office is also full of Asians. This man is trying to do something to help us become competitve again and you are whinning??????????? Boy I am so tired of ignorance. The problem is not Obama but massive ignorance.

I guess teachers don't mind being insulted as long as they get money. After all, Obama came out and said that teachers can't teach. If you're a science or math teacher you are either teaching your kids or you're not. How does putting an additional $20,000 a year into your pocket make you a better teacher? Answer: It doesn't. So, all this is is more Obama buying votes with our money. The guy has no shame.

There is NOTHING that the Federal Government does effectively with our tax dollars.

Well, we are only the most powerful country in the world - using your tax dollars.

But I guess that's not good enough for you.

Some people are never satisfied.

Consider how our education system provided for students 40 years ago and compare it with today and how incredibly dumbed-down our system is now. That is why we can't compete in math, sciences, and engineering with the rest of the world.

Seems to match the de-funding of our education system. So long as we have a significant percentage of parents disrespecting teachers, teachers will not be able to teach effectively.

Have you read some of the comments on this board about teachers?

To some extent, I agree with the Righties here. Funding is not the problem, or at least, it is not the only problem. So long as we have people who keep talking about how teachers are fat-cats living happily on the public dole, we will have an education problem.

Heya, Mr. Obama......CHECK THE NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK. Where do you think Congress will find the money to support this boondoggle ? Taxing the RICH AGAIN ?

Let's put it into perspective. This program is $1 B. The new F-35s ALONE will cost $396 B, and just think about the entire DoD's costs....

I think a little education is more important than fancy jets that will never be used.

First of all, our education system is badly broken. If the global statistics aren't enough to convince you, the fact that the GOP talking points get any traction at all should...and the teapublican plan is? Privatize it. And if you can't afford a private education, you can go into the fields and pick produce for your slave masters as soon as you learn to walk. This system worked for thousands of years...and if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

Maybe the administration should bone up on it's math skills first.

How does 10,000 teachers @ $20,000 equal $1 Billion dollars?

I want our kids to get the best education that is possible. But as I look at the history of education in this country one fact is undeniable. The more money you give them the worse our kids preform. Can anyone provide any reliable statistics that show otherwise? The responsibility has to fall back to the parest and the kids, not a government program.

Why do teachers have to be given $20,000 bonuses to teach the right subjects to students? If you want the emphasis to be on science, technology, engineering and math, you invest in the materials needed in the classrooms and you set standards for all schools to meet. The teachers who were hired by each respective school system to teach these subjects don't need more money to teach our children. What they need is the ability to manage their classrooms from disruptive students. The standards for these classes should be set high because our nation's future depends on it. But, it is not the teachers alone who must make education a priority. If education is not a priority at home, it will be reflected in the classroom. Disruptive students need to be educated. But, not to the detriment of the majority.

Bob-1920561 "Roy, why can't we afford it right now? What will that statement have to do with Federal Budget and National Debt?"

Obama has thousands of programs that 'sound nice', and he's actually spent $4.53 Trillion MORE in his first three years than Bush spent in HIS first 3 years, and $5.8 Trillion has been added to the National Debt since the end of fiscal 2008. We simply cannot afford obliviously spending our children's future on every hare-brained program that Obama dreams up. Obama has never seen a government program that he didn't like to throw money at, but it's time that we said "ENOUGH".

PS - Everybody knows that this is just more 'rhetoric' on Obama's part - just a little over 3 months before the election - to get his 'base' excited. He had plenty of time to do meaningful things when he had a huge majority in Congress - too bad he 'wasted' it.

Roy, and your false hope........... Percentages in Federal Budget increases and decreases from year to year , are of little importance to the G.N.P............Growth can be accomplished and has during both Budget situations, yet you and the Tea Party follow the "deficit Hawk" political theory with NO rational basis.....

It is said that the Federal Deficit has increased some 1200% in forty years, yet Growth has been the mainstay of the economy, and inflation is no where near that percentage,,,,,,,Remember your facts, a dollar in 1965 is only worth 65 cents today. Controlled inflation is our goal as a economy for growth, and the Federal Deficit has little to do with inflation, and recessions,,,,, we must maintain a steady inflow of money into the supply chain via the Federal Government when the private capital is not moving sufficiently to increase our growth.......You have it back words, unless you can prove otherwise, with out politics's, because both party's have increased the Federal Deficit, and increased the amount of money available to the Public for Growth, not for "we can't afford it now". The Federal Government is not a family household budget, and to think so is derogatory to both.

Sure we have a unknown financial future, but that is capitalism at It's finest. Contrary to political bias that has a extreme factor. You appear to be one of the extreme. No other form of Government has the ability to regulate their currency and grow, like we do,,,,,,yet the nay-sayers, or pragmatics have a say from both spectrum's of our politics.

That is the basis of our believe in the Constitution and OUR beginning. Our Fathers knew little of the future when they spoke and wrote those words, yet they were prejudiced according to today's ethics. Good Day.

The US trade deficits is the proof...we are losing ~55 Billion dollars per month (~avg)...we have not had a trade surplus since 1973...in 2012 alone we will likely loose around 750 Billion Dollars from the US Economy...that is patially (not entirely) a result of our Economy being over-grown by Deficit spending, and now we have reached the upward spiral, where it will require an ever increasing level of Deficit Spending to just maintain our current standards of living...the 4~6 trillion required during the last 8 Years, will be 6 Trillion during this 4 years, and the next 4 years will require 8~10 trillion...and at some point, the rest of the world will tire of Supporting the American way of life at the expense of their own

txmom, why bring Chicago/Obama into your discussion of local school districts, other than to promote discource and Geo-politics or what you could call "geo-warfare"?

tsmom, how did you reach the top "10" with the one's you "sweep" out? You are arrogant, I said that.

tsmom, quote from your source,"While Tsing Loh brings up a few good points, the problems with the Chicago Public School system are far too complicated to blame on the actions of individual families, particularly depending on where those families live within the city.". You are one political hack.

Bob in KC, so your daughter was forced to stop teaching by the government? Get Real, and prove it!

Bob-1920561 "It is said that the Federal Deficit has increased some 1200% in forty years, yet Growth has been the mainstay of the economy, and inflation is no where near that percentage,,,,,,,Remember your facts, a dollar in 1965 is only worth 65 cents today."

Thirty years ago (1981), the Federal Deficit was $79 Billion - in 2011 it was $1.3 Trillion, so the increase was actually 1645% in only 30 years.

And a Dollar in 1970 is currently worth only $0.17 (my quick reference chart only goes back to 1969). Your statement that 'Controlled inflation is our goal as a economy for growth, and the Federal Deficit has little to do with inflation' is your 'opinion', not fact. Here's an economic definition of Inflation from Dictionary.com;

"Economics . a persistent, substantial rise in the general level of prices related to an increase in the volume of money and resulting in the loss of value of currency ( opposed to deflation)."

And why would you say that adding another $Billion to the debt will have no affect on the debt? Does it not increase it? The dramatic increase in the Debt under Obama will ultimately lead to a significant lowering of our standard of living when ever increasing parts of our economy are required to pay for interest on the debt. Try increasing your own borrowing dramatically each year, thus increasing your finance charges each year, and when your income doesn't keep pace, watch how much less money you have to spend on other living expenses. It works the same way with the government.

The National Debt has increased by 59% since the end of fiscal 2008, but our economy (GDP - National Income) has increased only 4.9% over that same period of time. That is clearly unsustainable.

Gosh Bob I must have hit a nerve. Why am I arrogant because it was important for myself and my husband to live in an area where the schools my kids attend is proved to be effective in their educational pursuits? That is not arrogance rather careful parenting. Also we are involved in their schools and active in district politics and decisions. How is that arrogant? Because we wish to see our community prosper through education? I don't see promoting our teaching professionals as well prepared and educated and capable for doing the job of teaching our youth as arrogant. Rather as an appreciation for the job they do and the credentials they bring to the table. Not to mention the ability for them to raise the bar for the rest of the country is not arrogance rather pride in the capability of those teachers who influence their students daily.

So answering your question

txmom, why bring Chicago/Obama into your discussion of local school districts, other than to promote discource and Geo-politics or what you could call "geo-warfare"?

Obama's scope of experience is absolutely pertinent to the conversation because he is directly responsible for appointing Arne Duncan, a failed Education Professional, to the Post of Secretary of Education. Arne Duncan is attempting to raise the Department of Education to a level that will overstep their authority over States. He isn't the first but certainly uses his post as a pay to play political force wielding a tremendous budget as a carrot for compliance. Which is a common theme coming out of the Chicago political arena. Seriously, if Arne Duncan were effective then the Chicago school district would certainly be boasting a higher national standing. If Arne Duncan was effective then families, like the Obama's, would have opt for public instead of private education for their children. Perhaps Obama would have been more transparent if he had promoted the Principal or an active Board member form his girls private school.

You chastise Bob in KC but his imput makes sen and is central to the issues of education and educators. We have a new benchmark test system in Texas. Unfortunately, because the state is attempting to reconcile federal requirements with State requirements they didn't even know what the passing scores would be when the kids too the test. Teachers were frustrated because, upon reading the tests themselves they realized that there were questions on the test that were not covered by their lesson plans according the TEK's. That interference by the Federal Government has a negative affect on the students who take the test. I have three kids and I can honestly say that the after effect of taking the test and seeing questions that were not part of the curriculum was a huge source of anxiety until the scores were sent home.

As for teachers who have to stop teaching to complete the end of the term requirements..that is true in Texas as well. Two weeks before the term ends the teacher are required to spend their time in individual assessments and the kids do group type activities that are not academically driven. It is sort of sad when they come home and tell me the movies they watched that day or that they got extra stars for helping the teacher pack the room for summer. I actually have no problem with the stars to help the teacher in middle school but watching Disney movies is a bit frustrating because their attendance is mandatory for fluff. So really there is no reason to chastise Bob in KC for his perspective...he is absolutely a concerned parent who wishes his daughter could have job satisfaction.

Even my daughter in High School spent her time watching mandatory movies and frustrated because she felt it was pointless to attend for the last two weeks. The one class that had a requirement of an end of the year paper spent her time researching a paper that she could have done at home and did do much of it at home without distraction from others. She would have preferred spending her time helping me pack her for camp.

tsmom, quote from your source,"While Tsing Loh brings up a few good points, the problems with the Chicago Public School system are far too complicated to blame on the actions of individual families, particularly depending on where those families live within the city.". You are one political hack.

Thank you for reinforcing my point. Families must do what is right for their children. The failure of the district must fall somewhere, the most logical place would be the Superintendent of the District...Arne Duncan..The problem is that the President put a Superintendent in charge of the Federal program that he would not trust with his own daughters education. Seriously, if he doesn't trust him with his own children what makes him worthy to the children of this nation? Again thanks for the quote that states it isn't the parents fault and we can believe it is not the teaching professionals fault. Because Washington trying to direct individual districts does not work. Think about NCLB...there were parts of the legislation that served children very well and other parts that were very broken. Every State and every districted were inpacted by this federal measure. So now it is time for the Fed to step back and allow the local districts through their State funding implement programs that meet their needs.

Here is an interesting source about Duncan, the failed Superintendent, and his interest to ride shot gun over the States ability to educate their children. Funny thing is that our district, without the dotted linen to Washington has implement many of his targets without trillions spent by the American People.

http://www.usnews.com/education/articles/2009/02/05/what-arne-duncan-thinks-of-no-child-left-behind

So I still do not get how you equate an informed, involved, parent who wishes to do the best for my kids as arrogant. I just want a public education system that serves my children as individuals not as some cookie cutter drone.

Roy, again you assume money added( (the Federal Government has the ability to regulate and print All our currency according to the Constitution and Court decisions, and is not public or household debt) by the Federal Government to the economy somehow vanishes, I assume you mean by trade deficit, and privately held Government Security's, contrary to reality. That money is held as a investment in the security of the Federal Government, paying a interest in the future growth of the economy. The Federal Government has the sovereign Right since we were released from the Gold Standard (1974, signed by Pres. Nixon)to pay that interest in only one currency,the dollar. Public and Foreign investment ( trade deficit) enhances OUR security, worldwide. Example: Why is China and Russia currently less of a threat to our country today than 40 years ago,,,,,,, definitive answer, they have a vested interest,(private and government) in our well being as a economic necessity, they hold our Federal debt (again not your personal household debt). Your reaction to statistics and graphs shows a isolationist political bias, (something that the Euro Nations have tried and are losing at. Germany has had a positive trade balance for decades as will Japan, because they have basically eliminated foreign investment and now have few outside sources to buy their Euro Security's, again a investment on their future of growth.Japans Government debt is some 200% of their G.N.P., because private investment in their currency is mainly held by their own people, which equals STAGFLATION, or no outside investors willing to invest in their economy, I digress)that historically is negative to our economic growth, pre- WW I and II and politically increases tension between political Nations.............

Look at it this way, your Federal Governmnet has the ability to regulate the Debt of Future growth in order to accomplish too things, provide for the National Security and promote the general welfare of the People.....ALL politics aside, having a isolationist view of this not in the better interests of us. Hope this has shed some light on my incite, and opinion of the vibrate nature of the economy and politics. Good Day, Roy, and I will post a comment to Txmom later in the day..............but yes you did hit a nerve when you claim to get politics out of the schools, yet boast and post links that are in themselves based on one thing in nature ,Politics.

Bob-1920561

After carefully reading through your 'gobbledygook', I have come to one inescapable conclusion - You must be high on something. I won't waste any more time on you - Bye.

Again you assume,,,so sad for a "graduate from one of the largest university's in California",,,,,,,,and "we can't afford it right now",,,,,,,,,yes you are full of b.s.. Guess you have no real practical approach, just lame politics and personal disapproval of others........ Good Day. Have a nice time in Costa Rico........LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFTNQ1PAMiY&feature=youtu.be,,,,,,,,,some think the future world will be corporate controlled,,,,,,,education in the hands of Corporate legislation. Much of the problem is at the State level, that is the source to look at.

Just BUYING more UNION VOTES.....

??Buying votes that he already owns?? more like...a politician being a politician, spending taxpayer money trying to make himself/herself look good

I invite you all to Google Obama’s and Bush’s effects on the deficit. Please.

@ Sam

Maybe you should uderstand that Bush left office with an approval rating in the mid-20's, that wasn't just code PINK...Yes, Fiscal conservatives got boned by Bush and his batch of congress, and Obama campaigned promising to deal with deficits, and Fiscal Conservatives got DP barebacked...If any true Fiscal Conservatives still believes that the RNC or DNC is ever going to give up the power that comes from spending tax dollars...well I don't want to finish that thought...

Sam, they won't, because they don't want to admit that under Obama, deficit spending growth is lower than any other president in the last 40 years, barring Clinton. The Republicans took a budget surplus in 2001 and turned it into a disaster in 8 years, wracking up nearly 6 trillion dollars in national debt with a recession and tax cuts, and two wars they refused to put on the budget; instead holding appropriations votes as billions more were needed to continue the wars.

Those are hard facts...

Mr. Phea

Obama has submitted proposals to reduce the national debt by 4 trillion over the next ten years. Other than accusing the President for the debt, what are they proposing to do about it, other than cut education, infrastructure, medical care, food programs; all the while insisting that the rich need tax cuts and big oil needs subsidies?

To be fair, his proposal was to cut future spending increases by 2 trillion, with 2 trillion tax increase on the wealthy and phantom spending cuts that nobody believed would ever enacted or honored by future congresses, with economic numbers that nobody believed realistic...nobody, has ever propose any plan, to reduce the debt by a single penny

When Obama decides he is in favor of real spending cuts, in a way that cannot be undone by the very next budget, I'll be in favor of tax increases that can only be applied to the debt...Spending Caps and a Balanced Budget Admendment...anything less is just one more politician with their lips moving

Mr.,

The proposed tax cuts that don't include the wealthy are earmarked for debt reduction, not new or future spending. And as I've repeatedly said, Obama has put a plan on the table to reduce the debt, where is the GOP plan?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904106704576579090001282966.html

@Ray

I still believe you are intentionally or unintentionally confusing debt and deficits...until you reach a balanced budget, a move into the black, you do not touch the debt...

Your link sent me to a partial WSJ article that describes a reduction in future deficits by 3.6 trillion (half of that in tax increases) over the next 10 years (aka 180 billion tax increase, and 180 spending increase decrease per year)...again you cannot reduce spending 10 years in advance, because the very next congress can pass spending levels above the agreement...to read the remainder of the article is blocked to subscribers only...

Mr Phea, ".... I'll be in favor of tax increases that can only be applied to the debt...".

But this will never happen in our current political climate. Remember, house republicans signed "The Pledge"....

He has no idea what a budget is.

It is know as "welfare wealth". As soon as your welfare check arrives spend like there is no tomorrow and then stand waiting for the next one to arrive - because you know it will. There is no need to worry about it because you KNOW the government will always come up with more money.

He still hasn't learned that you can't spend your way out of a depression. People are sick of having to "tighten their belts" while the government continues to spend despite the lack of revenue.

Though I am a Fiscal Conservative, I am "not" a Republican...None of America's problems will be addressed and/or solved as long as the American Voters are forced to choose between the DNC and RNC...The Middle Majority of America is the only possible solution to problems created by the Two-Party system which thrives on division

http://mrpheaniques.newsvine.com/_news/2012/07/03/12533401-the-ten-for-american-independents-day

And again this isn't a Recession, this is the Economic Correction that we have spent 15-->60-->160 Trillion dollars trying to postpone (think musical chairs)...no politician want to be standing when the music stops

Ray

Both parties in both houses voted down the last two Budget Proposals in near unamimous votes.

What you need to understand is we don't know whether The Democrats were voting them down because they couldn't get re-elected or if the plan was put out there by Obama to specifically get killed in congress.

Being so far anything Obama has said he would veto from the House get's buried by Reid in the Senate.

Being Reid and Pelosi along with Ted Kennedy were the power brokers in Congress.

Don't beleive me about Reid? "we have found an African American who dresses and speaks well".

Being Obama has stated outright falsehoods about Romney about Bain.

Being in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) we were supposed to be able to keep our insurance if we want it - colleges dropped their really inexpensive health insurance plans becaue the federal mandates caused premiums to more than DOUBLE - How's that affordable. My insurance (multiple providers) never increased more than 14% now increases 18 - 20% becuase of ACA mandates.

Being Reverend Wright in an interview noted that Obama wanted him to "lie" (offered money too) about their conversations, when Wright refused, Obama told him the problem with Wrights' profession is he cannot lie.

I don't think the budget was ever intended to pass. It was "eye candy".

We shouldn't beleive whatever this man says

Unfortunately, the Party of No and Teapublicons don't believe in Science.

Grow up, Never Stop Asking Questions! I have a 5-year college degree in the hard sciences of chemistry, math, and pharmacy AND I am a Republican. I just don't believe in the incredibly stupid position that big government is our salvation, that everything we make must be filtered through the gigantic money sewer that Washington has become.

If all you can do is cut and paste, you really need to go back to school and learn how to reason for yourself instead of allowing a pandering, lying, overpromising, and underachieving Spender-in-Chief to do all your thinking for you.

Bob, I am glad that you are threatened enough by my wisdom to follow my work.

That only means that you feel threatened by Truth, which you should.

Too bad that you are only earning minimum wage from the Koch Brother to repeat the Teathuglican, Faux News talking points, Bob.

Who can do anything with a B.A. in science anyway, in the Party of No, anti-intellectual climate...especially without Government contracts?

He still hasn't learned that you can't spend your way out of a depression.

I don't think you understand how economics work. 'Spending' is actually what is needed to work your way out of a depression. Of course, what you are calling 'spending' is actually investment, but I don't think you understand the difference.

So long as enough people don't understand that spending is exactly what is needed, the situation will get worse.

Of course, spending money on tax cuts for the rich isn't going to help much, as the rich are the most inefficient at the use of money. That really IS spending, as opposed to actual investment.

spending money on tax cuts

How does one "spend money" by relieving a person of a tax burden. It may be expected revenue that is not going to materialize but it is not spending money.

I understand that there needs to be investments made such as capital improvements that can be beneficial to recovery but tossing $10M here and $20M there with no real return on investment is something different. Buying something that isn't needed and isn't beneficial is a waste of revenue.

spending money on tax cuts

It's Washington double-speak the same way they talk about how are they going to pay for a tax cut or how getting less of a budget increase is a cut.

Brenda, your bias and ignorance are showing

And we see how well Darwin's evolutionary education has worked. Do some serious research in the efficiency and effectiveness of "home schooled" students compared to publicly educated students. Let us know your results.

research how Noah's ark could have worked

That would be a very good lesson in several engineering areas. Of course your computer is being put to better use blogging than researching.

real change, isn't a possibilty, from within the "Two-Party" System...

http://mrpheaniques.newsvine.com/_news/2012/07/03/12533401-the-ten-for-american-independents-day

Tommy Lee - the US put the landminds in Laos during the"Secret War" component of the Vietnam War. It was an undeclared and illegal extension of the war. This extension was not a surgical strike aimed at a specific person, nor was it a short term action. The "Secret War" was an effort to cut off the supply and movement lines of the Viet Cong. It started in 1964 and ended in 1973 (or 1975 when we withdrew from Vietnam depending on who you talk to).

During the Laos War time period we spent 2 million dollars a day bombing and planting mines. Since then we've spent about 3 million a year helping to clean it up. The landmines still explode, killing or maiming thousands each year.

It is legally, morally, and ethically correct for us to assist in removing them and the unexploded ordinance.

Matthew - So you rationalized Laos, how do you rationalize why we are giving money to Egypt and Pakistan?

Matthew, I have no problem cleaning the mines up, I actually concur with your entire statement. I was just stating money that has been spent or promised and @ some point you have to say there is not enough money to keep all these promises. The thinker has a point, I DO NOT agree with giving Egypt or Pakistan absolutely nothing.

Thinker - Pakistan has a barely functioning economy. The U.S. gives aid to Pakistan in an effort to help slow/hinder Al-Qaeda and like forces in the area. If the U.S. were to stop this aid, Pakistan would become a refuge for terrorists like Afghanistan was. Sure you can cut-off aid now, you'll be back in the quagmire of war down the road if you do.

The administration submitted a budget proposal, as required by law. Congress is responsible for passing a budget, and hasn't done so in years.

As for overspending, where were your concerns when a GOP congress passed a 3 trillion dollar drug benefit in the middle of the night of refused to budget two wars, running up trillions in deficit spending?

Ray, so since the previous admin overspent, it justifies this admin doing so but at twice the rate? When does it stop?

Submitting a budget and getting one passed is two different things. Since Congress has failed to pass a budget since April 2009, and this Nation has been downgraded...shouldn't that be a priority of this administration? Nah...pandering for votes is the priority.

Do tell, when do you think this President will accept the responsibilities of the office he ran for and was elected to?

Wait -- so you're blaming him for hinging this proposal on Congress?? And yet Republicans cry foul when he issues an Executive Order! You want it both ways.

Wait -- so you're blaming him for hinging this proposal on Congress?? And yet Republicans cry foul when he issues an Executive Order! You want it both ways.

IF it was something that he absolutely wanted he would waive his executive order wand and be done with it...just as he did with children of illegal immigrants.

Romney proposes allowing 1,250,000 high tech workers to immigrate citing a shortage of these workers even though unemployment for those jobs is twice what it was before the recession.My guess is foreign tech workers will work cheaper. Romney says allowing these workers legal status will create support jobs for americans such as selling them Big Macs. I'd rather we educate americans then import more immigrants.

Rather than increase the quality of our education, they want to axe the Education Department and issue more HB1 visas.... lovely...

Better education leads to better jobs.

RAy in Jax

Only if there are jobs. Another one of Obama's failures. Producing jobs.

ray maybe 27% of the teachers suck. you cant blame the failure of our schools on the students. its a repeating issue the students keep getting worse so go the teachers

What - A President can only have legislation introduced into Congress, from there it is up to Congress to do something with it. If you want to blame somebody, blame Congress. There have been many jobs bills introduced into Congress, from both sides and Congress has sat on all of them.

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Romney said in the debates that her would get rid of the Department of Education.

I wonder which candidate is moving the country forward?"

I guarantee Oblameo is NOT moving this country forward with this bit of pandering to the NEA and AFT! The only thing he doing with this little maneuver is trying to buy teachers' votes in November.

As for Romney's statement on education, you need to reread the whole thing, not just one sentence out of it. Romney wants to put education back into the hands of states and local school districts.

Government regulation and the money filter of Washington are the bane of good education in this country! My wife taught Behaviour Development and Learning Disabilities for years before moving into the private education field. When she started, she began seeing students early in September actually teaching them. She stopped teaching them in late May to write and file her reports. By the time she quit to raise our children, she could not teach students until October because of all the government regulations that had to be complied with. She had to stop teaching them in late April to begin writing and filing all the extra reports that the Department of Education required by that time.

The Department of Education at the national level is a bad joke on the American people. The only things it does are to filter money through the bureaucracy (losing a big chunk of it in the process) and pile on more regulations and reports every year. Teachers unions have pretty much paralyzed the efforts of outstanding teachers that want to teach, like to teach, and want their students to succeed.

Our daughter has been teaching for 14 years now. When she started, she taught her students to think, evaluate, synthesize, and create rather than just regurgitating facts and memorized tables. Now she has to teach to the tests that students are required to pass in order to advance. That is why she will be quitting at the end of the next school year: frustration with the system and all the extraneous requirements that take away from actually teaching the children.

Consider how our education system provided for students 40 years ago and compare it with today and how incredibly dumbed-down our system is now. That is why we can't compete in math, sciences, and engineering with the rest of the world.

Well, if the last 3.5 years have been campaigning, I'd say the campaign is going well... lol...

You righties claim he keeps pandering for votes, when all he is actually doing is looking out for the shrinking middle class. If that is campaigning, I want 4 more years of it!

Ray in Jax

How to you plan to repay your share of over $50,000.00 in our National Debt that Obama created in your name?

If you call driving over 46% of our population to live in or at the edge of poverty looking out for the shrinking middle class, I would hate to hear what you think about Obama's tax cuts to the rich he's been giving them for the past 3.5 years.

The size of the government is the problem. I run a small business. I want to expand, my market will let me expand. I can't at this time, because I am spending so much on staying compliant with local, state and federal government. I literally am being hit with new compliance regulations all of the time. What I can budget, (and yes I must follow a budget to stay in business unlike the government) is going to regulatory compliance issues. I want to and need to hire more people, until the government stops making that impossible I can not. So NO! we do not need more government in our lives.

Please Mr Obama, please lighten up and let us alone.

MHayward...first of all, congrats on running an expanding small business!

Second, you are aware that our wondrous leader said, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that,” Obama said

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48216352

You can't listen to what Obama says, you have to pay attention to what he does. The two come no where near each other.

The really scary part is that if you watch what he does, all you want to do is puke! AND the poor fool thinks that his daughters will be exempt from paying their "fair share" of all this debt he continues to pile up with no end in sight until next January.

Dr Bob

Obama has said that he wants to create a military authority to deal with domestic issues. Are you suggesting a design for their uniforms? Are you going to include the two lightening bolts on their collars like Hilter's SS wore?

A nice touch might be Mickey Mouse Ears hats with a skull and cross bones on them.

New Obama Math Problem: 20 white private business owners each make $2 million dollars in profits.

What should be their tax rate (that is a percentage) for Obama to take $40 million and give it to black free loaders on welfare?

The problem was stated up the page: pay attention to what he does, NOT what he says. He shore do talk good, don't he? He make you think you NEED the gold-plated casket, don't he?

Adam44,

Funny. LAUSD had year round schools and that didn't stop the drop out rate in LA. It was a necessary evil because there were too many kids and not enough classrooms so they had to put kids on year round tracks. It was the parents, more than the unions, that complained because their kids were in school during the summer when they wanted to take extended summer vacations. It was great for the teachers because they got paid all year instead of just 10 months out of the year. But don't let that stop you from bashing unions. On the other hand, the Japanese school system starts from April to March. Yet, their students get a 2 mos. summer break and various weeklong holidays throughout the year.

This has nothing to do about unions but it has everything to do about educating our students to compete in the global economy. I can't tell you how many H1B visa holders we have at my company because there are not enough American citizens to do the job but that wouldn't matter to you. You've already decided that it's best to outsource the scientific and technical skill sets to other countries, rather than to teach our own kids those skills.

Funny DJ. When I was in school in the 70's,80's, I remember going on many field trips throughout the year because education was once a respected field. We only had fund raisers for field trips that were not within the school system to allow us to visit other states and cities.

Contrast that to the 2010's at my daughter's school. We had to raise money for her class to go to one local concert or they would have no field trip for the year. We cover school costs for copy paper because we don't have enough money to give students their own books.

Yes, it costs more to educate our kids, but costs have increased over the last 30 years. Teachers are being cut and our students are being short changed because everyone to you are ill-responsible. If the teachers, parents and children are not responsible, then who is? Society?

where we feed them 2 meals a day with tax dollars

So you believe in starving children and letting them slowly die? Riiiiiiiight.