Man who died after standoff with NM cops had assault rifle, 'homemade bombs'

New Mexico State Police

Rex Michael Sherwood

A fugitive who spent five days on the run in New Mexico before dying in a weekend shootout with police left behind a vehicle containing explosives and questions about his possible links to anti-government groups, according to local authorities and published reports.

Rex Michael Sherwood, 48, was found dead Sunday in a gas station in Dulce, N.M., on the Jicarilla Apache reservation, after a gunfight with police.

It was Sherwood’s second violent confrontation with local law enforcement in a week, said Jake Arnold, a spokesman for the Rio Arriba County Sheriff’s Office. On July 10, he exchanged gunfire with tribal police who pulled him over for failing to use his turn signal. After leading the officers on a 10-mile chase, he abandoned his Ford delivery truck and fled into the woods, Arnold said.


Sherwood resurfaced early Sunday, according to local news reports, when tribal police responding to a reported break-in at a Dulce gas station and convenience store came under fire from inside. After a lengthy standoff, during which the tribal officers were joined by state police, FBI agents and officers from other local agencies, a remote-controlled robot entered the building and detected the body of a single gunman lying on the floor.

 


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The state medical examiner identified Sherwood through fingerprints. A statement Tuesday by the Jicarilla Apache Nation on Tuesday said that he had died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound from the AK-47 assault rifle he was carrying.

KRQE-TV of Albuquerque quoted unidentified sources as saying that Sherwood was a computer expert with extreme anti-government opinions.

It also quoted the sources as saying that “homemade bombs” were found in the back of the truck he abandoned.

Arnold, the sheriff’s department spokesman, confirmed that explosives were found in the vehicle and said that Sherwood was wearing a T-shirt bearing the name of a right-wing militia group when he died.

Frank Fisher, a spokesman with the Albuquerque FBI office, declined to discuss any details of the case. In a statement, the bureau asked anyone with information on the case to phone 505 889-1300

Jicarilla tribal police and a New Mexico state police spokesman did not immediately return calls seeking comment. 

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Another crazy American white terrorist in the making?

  • 11 votes
#1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarStunnedByTheAgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

always white in your world? did you ever notice the Black Panthers, the DC snipers, Ft Hood shooter, gangs in most every city in America, and of course the drug cartels that come over the borders. I am surprised you didn't try and tie him in with the Tea Party...

  • 36 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:03 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIrish-n-greenExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Maybe he was just exercising he constitutional right to own an AK-47, a few bombs, and belong to a militia.

  • 22 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

LOL

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

Well, there IS a lesson for all those Anti-governmentWhite supremacist Whackos out there.

DON'T MESS WITH THE APACHE PEOPLE!

You bring that crap up on the REZ, you'll be meeting your end JICARILLA STYLE.

When I was trapped in Jicarilla country on my anniversary between Dulce and Lumberton a few years back, I was VERY polite to Apache people. I even brought cigarettes for a tobacco offering. but I'm ALWAYS polite to Native people, That's why I never carry guns on the Rez. I figure the LAST thing those nice folks want to see is ANOTHER WHITE MAN WITH A GUN.

  • 13 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:23 PM EDT
Comment author avatartheCavalierExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Spend any time on the Rez here in NM Ishmael? They let him get away once, and he killed himself the second time.

No, this is another unibomber type. Smart, paranoid, no sense of balance. A republican that practiced what he preached.

I wonder if he worked at the Labs? Bet he did at some point.

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

Well cav, old pal. My take is that he's an out-of-stater or he'd have known better. I maintained microwave radio sites all over the state including on the Jicarilla, Ute, Navajo and Mescalero reservations. the stories I always seem to hear about former lab employees are the ones about the retired explosives experts who liked to bring their work HOME with them. there was a story out of "enough with the negative waves", Moriarity a few months ago. The guy passed and his son went to clean out his house, then wound up having to call explosives and ordnance disposal in.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:47 PM EDT
Comment author avatarsandtrichExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

StunnedByTheAge

always white in your world? did you ever notice the Black Panthers, the DC snipers, Ft Hood shooter, gangs in most every city in America, and of course the drug cartels that come over the borders. I am surprised you didn't try and tie him in with the Tea Party...

It is white in my world--because I'm white. Most serial killer's profiles are: white, Christian affiliation, gun lovers--get it? The government is cracking down and it doesn't matter which Party. They've ordered 35,000 drones for surveillance of their own people. Hang on to those firearms and I guarantee you that you will be overpowered by a far superior weapon. I'm freaked out by the gun hoarders and the white separatists, (which, by your comments, you sound like.) Stay in your bunker waiting for the apocalypse.

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

@Sandtrich
"51% kill manually, versus 22% who rely exclusively on guns and 10% who utilize "other" means; another 14% alternate between shooting and manual attacks, and 3%-including killers like Henry Lucas and Ottis Toole-use anything and everything available as homicidal tools. (Lucas once bragged that he had murdered using "everything but poison," including victims who were crucified, run down with cars, and burned alive.)"

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm418444.html

As for your little drones; Those things seems to fall out of the sky, just ask Iran or Pakistan..
Here is the drill, if a human made it then another human CAN break it.

I aint skeered of youin teknologies, I dun gots a compooper scients and elektronikz dugrhees..

The bunker is clean and stocked, how is your tin-foil hat holding out?

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

Maybe he was just exercising he constitutional right to own an AK-47, a few bombs, and belong to a militia.

Was that "well-regulated militia"?

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

Dave-2478570:

Love your Post....

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

As for your little drones; Those things seems to fall out of the sky, just ask Iran or Pakistan...

Not as often as the bombs they're carrying...

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:07 AM EDT

You know Sandtrich, if only the government in Syria had guns, and none of the people, the government would be able to kill the civilians off much more quickly. Wouldn't that be nice?

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

I blame the tribal police who pulled him over in the first place as they were just looking to make a few bucks off this guy (seriously, a turn signal "violation," puhlease). They obviously put him over the edge.

  • 5 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:54 AM EDT

They've ordered 35,000 drones for surveillance of their own people.

Can you provide ANY link that mentions 35,000 drones, that doesn't come from some fringe anti-government website? Or that doesn't come from the typical "unnamed" source or "a friend of a friend"?

  • 4 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:36 AM EDT

Dead huh? Well, Romney's short list of potential V.P. running mates is now shorter by one. Mitt's having a bad week.

I'm just sayin' .....

;-)

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:59 AM EDT

@Sandtrip,

You should look at the racial makeup in our prisons of those who have murdered with a gun and the overwhelming majority are not white related to their percentages of the U.S. population. Go ahead and take a look. You got a computer, try using it to educate yourself before making stupid comments about race. I will give you a little hint as to who has the most per capita in their ethnic group. They represent only 16% of the population of this country but lead in crimes with a gun. Hmmmmmm. Interesting now isn't it.

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:52 AM EDT

The government needs to set an example for us all and make all firearms illegal. Only professional persons should handle firearms. This will stop the gun killings.

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:07 AM EDT

Sovereign Man

That is your right to not own a firearm. However, as a US citizen I invoke my 2nd ammendment right to own one. If your suggestion was true: "this will stop the gun killings" I guess if folks really want to kill someone they will find another method to do the deed. What if it was done with a baseball bat? Would you recommend making baseball bats illegal? I enjoy baseball and that would infringe on another of my rights!

Perhaps you are a person that wants to join IANSA? If so, that too is your right. The purpose of a free country is no infringement of rights for persons who have not committed any crime. Or do you desire to implement only those rights you think are bad?

Oh yeah, ( your statement of:"only professional persons should handle firearms"). I am a professional person who has owned firearms since I was of age to do so and yet, I have not killed anyone with them. Have a pleasant day.

  • 9 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

Sovereign man: you truly are an oxygen thief. Stop, take a step back, unplug your computer and then take it outside and smash it onto the ground. you are obviously being manipulated by the "devil machine" and it has eaten any bit of commense sense you may have had.....truly.

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

soveirgn man,

It appears like you're making a trolling type of statement . I posted a similar statement a few weeks back about gun ownership and got quite a response .

I really believe that people should have a right to decide if they choose to own firearms or not. I'll use my 2nd ammendment right to own a fire arm ( or as many as I choose to own) .

Those who attempt to create an argument about abolishing gun ownership refuse to accept that others have a different view ,,,,and the reasons are just as valid

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:22 AM EDT

@ soveirgn man

All gun laws do is ensure that only the criminals have guns.

Guess what, your local stick up artist aint going down to Bud's Guns and filling out the paperwork for his gun, he is getting it through illegal channels. Channels that will only grow in size with the outlawing of guns.

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

Ishmael - Cheers! and Pilamaya!

    #1.22 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

    Sov-man you should turn off the t.v. for a while and join the real world. If guns were taken away from everyone except 'professional people' that would leave a populous of sheep awaiting shearing-not just the street crooks but the ones in washington that have elevated to an elite class beyond the laws that they wrote. Look it up, if you can turn off Gilligan's Island re-runs- the average politician in washington is a millionaire within two years of joining the 'public servant' steak and lobster set.

    An easy one to looko up-the new health care tripe does not include them and when queried-they said they would not leave their platinum coverage to join.

    You may also want to read the proposed 28th amendment to the Constitution.

    Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .

    as if this will ever go anywhere.

    • 5 votes
    #1.23 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

    I don't see in the article where it is stated that he is white. The photo may make him look white but that doesn't mean he isn't an Indian. I would have to say that he most likely is a mix. And it doesn't matter what blood line he comes from the man was disturbed and is a mirror reflection on how so many tribes are feeling. The REZ in western New York is under constant bombardment from the State Police for selling cigarettes (the one thing that brings in a good amount for the tribe) But they just keep harassing the Indians. The rest of America is getting tired of the government crap as well.

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

    Terrorists have no specific race. They come in all colors/nationalities/religious beliefs/political beliefs. I'm just glad there's one less roaming the streets today.

    Congrats to the Reservation police for taking him down.

    • 1 vote
    #1.25 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

    @davefromdanapointca

    There's this study on privileged disparities, maybe you should look it up. If the cops spend most of their time focusing on minorities, of course they'll find more criminals. If the cops would spend more time focusing on just the white population, I'll bet the demographics of the prison population would change as well. But I guess you don't have to worry about all that if you can't even see your own unearned privileges for just being white.

    "Indian"

    Joy, Most Indians I know are dark, but maybe you meant the Native Americans.

    • 1 vote
    #1.26 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

    sandtrich Comment collapsed by the community
    It is white in my world--because I'm white. Most serial killer's profiles are: white, Christian affiliation, gun lovers--get it?

    Really?

    Serial Murder

    Behavioral Analysis Unit-2
    National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime
    Critical Incident Response Group
    Federal Bureau of Investigation

    Myth: Serial killers are all white males.

    Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population.

    • Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, killed numerous victims in Northern California, in concert with Robert Lake.

    • Derrick Todd Lee, an African-American, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

    • Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.

    • Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a native of Mexico, murdered nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois, before turning himself in.

    • Rory Conde, a Colombian native, was responsible for six prostitute homicides in the Miami, Florida area.

    Myth: Serial killers are all dysfunctional loners.

    The majority of serial killers are not reclusive, social misfits who live alone. They are not monsters and may not appear strange. Many serial killers hide in plain sight within their communities. Serial murderers often have families and homes, are gainfully employed, and appear to be normal members of the community. Because many serial murderers can blend in so effortlessly, they are oftentimes overlooked by law enforcement and the public.

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder

    • 1 vote
    #1.27 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    Another crazy RIGHT-WING American white terrorist in the making. That's particularly important to highlight since I'm one of them crazy lefty liberal nut-jobs.. as such I'm not much for violent extremist righty-tighties.

      #1.28 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

      folks get upset but I too am sick of folks saying I should be afraid of the muslims, I am afraid of the crazy a$$ white folks who trip and make bombs and have other stuff. Yes, black folks are killing like crazy too, don't get me wrong, but white folks have their fair share of criminal activities too.

      Why is it that everytime I look at the news someone is angry, stuff happens, the person gets killed and you find out there are bombs involved. Seriously, these folks need to figure it out.

        #1.29 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

        @ caribbeanslim and all the rest of you cowboys.....just joking.

        You caught me, I was trolling. I thought I would change it up a bit from my normal rants regarding the path of totalitarianism we are going down. Figured it would give the DHS and fusion centers something to scratch their heads about.

        I couldn't resist really, thought I would have a thousand likes from brain dead sheep who can't comprehend the contract called the Constitution.

        The only thing that is stopping a totalitarian state in your country is 80 million lawful (not legal, there is a difference) firearm owners.

        A few months from now, the UN small arms treaty will be in full effect. Ratified or not it will be implemented.

        If you remember the defense authorization act and patriot act? They made nearly every one in the US a criminal or terror suspect. So..this is the avenue that will be used.

        Smoke and mirrors....Most of you all are being fooled and I wouldn't want the criminal government of the united States to set an example on how to flush a toilet let alone gun regulation.

        • 1 vote
        #1.30 - Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:55 AM EDT

        I kind of figured , "yours was a trolling coment "

        It's OK ,,,I've also done the same thing on a "gun related ' issue to see what kind of reaction I would get !

        I posted something completly "biased and one sided" concerining gun control ( complete oposite of my true beliefs )

        I must say it was a real eye opener too ,,I was informed that I was a "douche bag" and I should leave the country and never come back

          #1.31 - Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
          Reply

          "possible links to anti-government groups"

          Rule #1 DON'T GET CAUGHT

          • 3 votes
          Reply#2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

          UM no. Rule No. 1: You can hate the gov't all you bloody want, just don't be a violent jackass bent on destruction.

          My position is this: I don't care how much you retards "hate the gov't".. if one hair on an innocent child's head were to get hurt collaterally because you can't handle life and have to go off the deep end every time you disagree with someone or something then in reality you're nothing but human filth, plain and simple.

            #2.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:11 PM EDT
            Reply

            Well, not anymore! Good riddance.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#3 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:46 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarJackBNimble1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            He's probably a loyal member of the NRA. How else would he learn how to use an assault weapon?

            • 4 votes
            Reply#4 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

            Please define what an "assault weapon" is. If I beat you with a baseball bat, isn't that an "assault weapon?"

            • 15 votes
            #4.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

            Easy, you lock, load, aim and pull the trigger.

            It does not take a genius to learn to use a weapon.

            Or as Ranman87 said you "swing".

            ANYTHING up to and including the jaw bone of an ass can be an "assault" weapon.

            The big picture here is the word "assault.

            • 5 votes
            #4.2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

            WOW Ranma87 PLZ tell us that your statement was just failed attempt at humor & you are really not that dense. Assault Weapons - For the most part our Government defines a Assault Weapon as any Semi-Automatic weapon w/ a detachable magazine, Pistol Grip & sometimes if they also are equipped w/ a folding-stock &/or Flash-Suppressor. Just encase you were serious and are that ill-informed.

            • 2 votes
            #4.3 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

            Those definitions are incorrect.

            Even varmint rifles have detachable magazines (even rotary ones).

            And some field rifles (saddle rifles have folding stocks.

            Pistol grips are NOT even close.

            Those can be found on a lot of home defense weapons, (Winchester Defender for example).

            NONE are considered assault weapons.

            I have an SKS with a folding bayonet AND a grenade launcher.

            IT is not considered by the ATF as an assault weapon.

            Know your B-B Guns before you speak.

            • 12 votes
            #4.4 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

            Viewer_Ready, you said "up to and including the jaw of an ass". Does that mean that every time Rush Limbaugh talks, he's actually ASSaulting us?? I want to file charges!! lol!

            • 10 votes
            #4.5 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

            dominuswolf:

            "Assault Weapon" is a non-technical, political term that was used by anti-arm legislators in the expired assault weapon ban. "Assault Weapon" is no longer a legally-defined term by the federal government, since the legislation that used it is no longer in effect. No serious gun owner uses the term, since it is simply a political phrase. This phrase IS still used in California state law, but this incident occurred in New Mexico, and as such, "assault weapon" has no meaning there. An "assault rifle", which is the phrase that this article used to describe this man's weapon, IS a real term, but refers exclusively to fully-automatic weapons in the United States, which are very rare, and hard to get. A full auto AK-47 like the one described would cost somewhere around 40 thousand dollars, or even more depending on other factors. In other words, this article is dead wrong, and this man merely had a semi-auto.

            • 9 votes
            #4.6 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

            Sigh thats because the Federal Assault Weapon ban of 1994 expired fool, Know your Federal Weapons Ban laws before you talk with the big boys. All definitions of Assault Weapons from the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994.

            Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
            • Folding or telescoping stock
            • Pistol grip
            • Bayonet mount
            • Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
            • Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of rifle grenades, though strangely, this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those which are mounted externally)
            Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
            • Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
            • Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
            • Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
            • Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
            • A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm
            Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
            • Folding or telescoping stock
            • Pistol grip
            • Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
            • Detachable magazine
            • 1 vote
            #4.7 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

            I have a great idea. Why don't we make a new condition law. The condition being all gun owners must spend a week in a secluded fenced off place in a forest or desert big enough to hold some numbers similarly filled like our old military draft. Make this a requirement to renew their licenses. One week and see how many either shoot themselves by accident. On purpose. Shoot someone else by accident or on purpose. blow each other up over an argument. I'm sure you have the picture. I'm sure you have more than the picture. You will see a picture of percentage. How many people should owns guns. How many people hide behind guns for there cowardice and how many people are so afraid and tired of being ripped off and beaten they will shoot back? I fit in the last category. And that was when guns weren't such a big thing.

              #4.8 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:16 PM EDT

              By anti-gun definition, any gun is an assault weapon. Any thing can be an assault weapon when it is used as a weapon to assault someone. Assault bat, assault knife, assault shoe, etc.

              • 3 votes
              #4.9 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

              Good points 51msg. The other day I just heard about someone getting arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and the incident was a fist fight. Maybe the guy was a known MMA expert, but it sounds like an overzealsous DA if you ask me.

              • 2 votes
              #4.10 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:29 AM EDT

              There are way too many people in the ignorance pool. Do some research people before spouting off at the mouth. For the love of all that have brain cells left, do the research. Check the statistics on firearm issues, deaths, misuse, etc. Then come back and make an educated response. Seriously, my brain hurts every time I read ignorant postings.

              I feel bad for those of you that have been sheltered enough to believe that if firearms were outlawed, the bad guy/gals/threats would be less. That there would be less firearm related assaults or robberies. Last time I checked, and I check all of the time because I teach this stuff, the "threats" do not purchase their firearms legally. So by disarming the average firearm owner you are ultimately putting yourself into harms way. Look at it like this:
              -Police are a phone call away
              -Phone call means response of 3 minutes to 30 minutes in some cases
              -Shootings occur quickly and threats run even quicker
              -Main goal of a threat: in and out quickly getting what they want and not get caught
              -without firearm you become the victim
              But then you probably would complain, stomp your feet and cry that the police never helped you

              Now:
              With firearm, someone would have a fighting chance to save your pathetic life by putting theirs on the line to save the innocent people around you all in a threatening situation. Once again, I am sure you would then cry and stomp your feet about how that person, by saving your life, gave you PTSD. There is a special place for people like you that act like this.

              All I have to say is those that believe that firearms should be banned, will ultimately see the end result in a very traumatic way...it is called karma and irony all wrapped in one.

              • 1 vote
              #4.11 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:24 AM EDT
              Reply

              I get pissed when people don't use turn signals too.

              But this went to the extreme on both ends of the spectrum.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

              There's more to the story before you pass judgement. This guy refused to stop or yield at a bridge construction site and attempted to force his way through flagged traffic. He was pulled over, jumped out and opened fire before running off into rough terrain. When he atttempted to steal food and supplies while armed with a Kalashnikov AK-47 he was corned and took the chickenshizzle way out after shooting in a populated area. Good riddance to trash.

              • 8 votes
              #5.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:24 PM EDT
              Reply

              america dosent have a gun problem.You can get any kind of gun in america,so wheres the problem?God bless the NRA for protecting americans constitutional rights; now how about protecting american civilians!Did u kno:more americans were killed by americans than were killed in the iraq and afghani wars(including those killed by the late evildoer bin laden)!...just some food for thought!

              • 5 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

              And most of them by cops

              • 3 votes
              #6.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

              How come nobody talks about the reported 1.88 million a year would be victims which had to use a legal firearm for justified defense. Is it ok for these law abiding people to have been harmed by criminals? You cannot outlaw criminality .The authorities have repeatedly failed in this regard. Laws do not stop crime they are meant to be a deterrent. Criminals do not respect laws, get it clear. Also police come after the crime has been committed . You and I have a right to defend ourselves ,family, and others .

              Also i may not like what many say but I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO DO SO. RESPECT MINE! RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS THEY EXIST TOGETHER FOR A REASON.

              • 3 votes
              #6.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

              police are not there to protect the individual. They are there to maintain conditions that are conducive to a safe environment. It is up to the individual to protect themselves.

              To prevent a crime, don't become a victum. If that includes having or carrying a gun. Then so be it. And if you choose not to, I won't be voting to make you do it. (kind of like the idea of you voting to take away my right)

              Be glad that the police are there to respond to a crime. Part fo the reason that someone can post 'u r an idiot-blah-blah-blah & cops suck' is because of, in part, their being there.

              and I know, there are dirty cops-----show me an altruistic anyone and I'll show you a corpse.

                #6.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                Yes. when you see a business with private security it is because there are not enough Police to curb the crime in the area. I overwhelming respect the Police and glad they almost always deal with these issues and not me. I think we need more high quality Police so that it really is the randomness of crime that slips through and not bureaucratic inefficiency.

                  #6.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                  I've been warning alll you gun crazeies - the government has bigger and bettter guns plus plenty of people who will use them on you. I own a gun I use for shooting varmints - it the government wants it, alll they have to do is ask. I read a post from DAve above who seeems to think he can take on drones. goood for you, Dave, just remember that posting that on the internet and actuallly doing it are on different sides of the world.

                    #6.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:02 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    He looks like the guy Mike from the show Pickers, maybe he dug up all the bombs and AK-47 for $125.....

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#7 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

                    He probably talked them down to less than $50....

                      #7.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:32 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      "...was wearing a T-shirt bearing the name of a right-wing militia group when he died."

                      I guess they don't want everyone running out to join this "right-wing militia group" since they won't give us the NAME of it....geeeze...mommy-government/media protect me from the no-name right-wing militia!!

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#8 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

                      bahaha anyone who doesn't like the government is a target. I hate where our rich, evil, and overpowering government is leading this country. we must vote out the jackwagons we have in office. i mean repuplicants and democraps. VOTE FOR SOMEONE FROM A DIFFERENT PARTY. IT MIGHT SAVE THIS COUNTRY BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#9 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                      Is there anyone running who HASN'T been bought out yet?? If so, please tell me!!

                      • 4 votes
                      #9.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

                      I haven't-Vote for me! Oh wait I'm not running! You would all be better off if I was if your an American!

                        #9.2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

                        Could all write in "Lassy"

                          #9.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:23 AM EDT
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                          Entertain me/us anti-gunners. Prohibition did not work and made the mob millions if not billions, the war on drugs is such a failure you want to legalize everything, back alley abortions still went on before R/W., Prostitution is everywhere let alone slavery, how's this gun ban going to work? I know we are in round 2,085 but I am bored and need a good chuckle. Please.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#10 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

                          And now thank God our Government may have a chance to get a good look at these militias who need there 2nd amendments rights to ride around with bombs in their cars. The handwriting has been on the wall for years. These militias are White Supremacists on call for the $$$ people the likes of Texas oil for a salary of course. The NRA would be another backer plus oh so many more. This is my opinion. I think Americans should read and heed.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#11 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

                          a lot like that black militia leader that went and talked in front of congress back in the 90's right?

                          • 4 votes
                          #11.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

                          Well Robert, your opinion is fine but most opinions are backed by some form of fact and I am interested to know where you find the facts that help you form your opinions. All your mentions sound exactly like left wing rhetoric no different that the quote :"wearing a T-shirt bearing the name of a right-wing militia group"Tell me, what exactly is a "right wing militia group"as opposed to a left wing militia group? Has society become so ignorant that anyone who disagrees with government handouts is now considered neocon right wing? Anyone who dare disagree with gay marriage is a homophobe? If you agree with the scientist who claim that global warming is a scam to make money your a right wing conspiracy theorists? Yeah, I know, people can't just simply have their own opinions without being classified by a political side so drooling fools from the left can name call and assign labels to promote their own intolerance while screaming about the intolerance of the right when in factual reality it does not exist. The NRA being a backer of white supremacy is about as ignorant as it gets Robert,, you have zero facts to back up that accusation. Matter of fact tell me who funds most of the wildlife conservation in the US, sure isn't you left wingers....try the pro gun lobby and the NRA........."White Supremacists"......lol........... Let me guess because Obuma is the 3rd largest back pocket recipient of big oil that means that it's the "white side" of him? SO Obama is only black when yo want him to be elected and any negativity he is of coarse "typical white American".................Sorry Robert, left wingers is more than just a ideology, it's a true mental disorder because no individual can honestly be that ignorant to follow the literal lies that the left makes up as they go. I think I'll stick to facts such as the same acts gun rights people ave been sticking to for years like the more registered gun owners in a city the less violent crime.......This is fact and can bee researched in any form of public record and FBI crime statistics. Did yo know that violent crime has gone down over 14% in all black neighborhoods yet the liberal media tells you another story? Did you know that over 98% of all black youth between the ages of 14-34 believe the liberal media lie that thee are more black males in prison than black males in college? Fact is 107,000 black male inmates are in the US prison system, 475,000 black males are in college enrolled in BA, MA or PhD level degrees, in case you don't know that's almost a 5-1 ratio yet ask any liberal and they will tell you that this is impossible yet you can find the numbers listed in the US Census as well as the 2012 Department of Education facts report. Did you know that the KKK was created by democrats and that during a combined 80 years of democratic control in the US Government, during that tie not one piece of legislation was ever written of brought before congress by democrats concerning racial equality and civil rights? Did you know that the Republican party was in fact the only party who pushed legislation for civil rights during the early 60's & 70's? Did you know that the first US President who abolished slavery was the first Republican in US History? Abe Lincoln ring a bell? Did you know that the democratic party supplied, supported and backed Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger's "Negro Project"of 1939 ? Did you know Sanger wanted to abort as many black babies as possible in order to help keep the democratic party from the worry of civil rights issues? Yeah, your right, those neocon right wingers are the dirt of the earth of intolerance and hate. It would be nice of just one liberal per day would do some actual research and fact finding rather than listen to some ignorant fool in college rant about how the conservatives do this and that when in fact if you want to place blame on any individual party, look at the left wing. Here is another unknown to many a liberal. Did you know prior to the civil rights movement and the creation of what we now know as the welfare state that more than 80% of all black families in the US had a mother and father who were married ands together and out of those 80% of black families more than 40% of them were small independent business owners? Guess what happened during the formation of government handouts? They targeted not only black areas but white and Latin areas that consisted of lower class people and welfare then told the families who needed help that the mothers couldn't get any help while the father was present. This is true to this day. Welfare also tells you that if you want more $$$ just have more kids but don;t remember who the father is and don't go after child support, let the government give you free handouts while destroying the American family... In other words, democratic liberal ideology of government handouts means destroying the family and removal of fathers. What is the greatest problem in alleged black society today with gang violence and drug dealing? #1 is lack of a father figure involved in the children's life. How did they get to this point? The Plan of the the liberal left wing government with a Mulatto mouth piece who claims to be the first black president when in fact he is the exact same race as my boys, Mulatto....... Take government handouts, let us provide for you! LOL, yeah, what left wing liberal ideology is in reality is legal slave ownership. The liberal left enslaves the American people by making them become dependant upon them. Once your in the system and see that getting a $8 per hour job isn't going to pay yo 1/10th of what welfare does along with food stamps and free medical, who in their right mind is going to walk away from over $4K per month in free government handouts to earn less than $900 per month? Again, the liberal plan of enslaving the poor and you fools think that liberalism is the idea of tolerance and unity......................I'll take my freedom and keeping the government out of my life and go back to the days where Americans we business owners and when Family was important. You can keep your Obamas, and your change........ I'll keep my Bible, Guns and freedoms.

                          • 2 votes
                          #11.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                          Margaret Sanger when i encourage people to educate themselves on her history and connections they are changed forever.

                          Also President Thomas Jefferson and US Congress outlawed slavery in 1807. The party Pres. Thomas Jefferson belonged to was called the anti-Federalists. He helped found the Democratic-Republicans. We really need to look at this again as a people.

                            #11.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:06 PM EDT
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                            Gee... good thing he's dead, huh?

                            I guess.

                              Reply#12 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

                              Dude sounds like those Occupy bridge bombers

                                Reply#13 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

                                Hmm, I wonder how they knew the militia group was right wing? Perhaps they objected to higher taxes?

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#14 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:03 PM EDT
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                                Larry-314720 they assume he was, because he was wearing a right-wing militia group t-shirt you moron. Oh that's right people like you cannot read or comprehend. It figures he is probably related to you.

                                • 2 votes
                                #14.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                                Not too many left-wing militia out there. Unless you count the Sierra Club as a militia. maybe they should arm themselves against right-wing haters.

                                • 3 votes
                                #14.2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:26 PM EDT
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                                The real terrorist threat to this country are these right-wing militia. Our threat is within, but you will never hear Faux news talk about this threat, because it would not promote their hatred for muslims. It is time our gov't crack down on these nut jobs.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#15 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:16 PM EDT

                                how quaint crack down on people you don't agree with who is next? hey lets round up everyone that don't believe like you .should there be some kind of test or something to determine who they should crack down on ?and what should you do with them ?good fukking luck a$$hole !!!!

                                • 3 votes
                                #15.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

                                str8jkt82,

                                Would you feel the same if someone like him lived next door to you?

                                How about the possibility that you and your family are out shopping or going to dinner when that guy goes berserk....and your family is caught in the crossfire?

                                  #15.2 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                                  Unfortunetly anyone can do things like this, including Liberals.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #15.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                                  You have a better chance of being killed by Africanized bees. Than your local militia.

                                    #15.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:29 PM EDT
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                                    I love assault-rifles. I own 6 of them including 5 AK-types.

                                    Just think.....if this guy didn't have access to a firearm he wouldn't have been able to off himself so easily. He'd probably be sitting in jail right now preparing to spend the next 40 years as a ward of the state and a burden to taxpayers. His wife and daughter would still be dead (he'd have beaten/stabbed/strangled them) and we'd be footing the bill for his room, board, and healthcare.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#16 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

                                    Just think...if this guy had been an NPR listener instead of being jacked in to the Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin Axis of Idiocy, he'd be sitting in his driveway now, listening to Terry Gross.
                                    It's a funny thing how hard it can be, once you've made that initial bad choice, to get back on the sanity track. But don't take my word for it, ask Tom Cruise.

                                      #16.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:19 AM EDT
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                                      DirkWingDeleted

                                      he did not have an assault weapon by definition an assault weapon is capable of BOTH semi and full automatic fire.it looked like one but it wasn't,he probably could afford one .this is nothing more than the anti gun media distorting things like they always do.but for once we(people involved in shooting sports)are really winning the debate. because all the lies and deceptions are being disspelled thru more information and that the stigma about guns and so called assault weapons are not true.we now have shows on prime time television that show how much fun shooting sports can be.women shooting everything from handguns to sporting rifles.and if you don't believe me go to your local gun shop and see how fast guns are selling or go to your local range and wait in line to get a lane to shoot in.but you what?you won't hear nothing about that from the msm you'll just hear about this wack job and others like him .and then they will portray us as fringe racist types,even our great leader barack husien obama says"we cling to our guns and bibles".while his ag is attempting to subvert the 2nd admendment thru trafficking guns to mexican drug cartels. just this time i really don't think nobody is falling for it,except the libtards that want to believe the garbage they are pedaling.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#18 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

                                      so a guy has bombs and assault rifles .... and is anti government... but when his opportunity is at hand... he kills himself? im not buying it. seems like every time something like this happens, "they" claim the guy killed himself. where are the sundance kids? i am not buying "their" stories......

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#19 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                                      Dead eagle should hook up with M. (don't confuse me with facts) Bachmann since they both are conspiracy nuts and anti govt.

                                        #19.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:25 AM EDT
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                                        jaxminst, the USMC taught me that was long before i was an nra member.and its really not that hard to learn but to jacktards like you, well thats a different story!!!!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

                                        He was probably trying to get to Black Panther headquarters to deliver the bombs they ordered.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#21 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

                                        I thought it said he had boobs.Never mind

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#22 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                                        He was obviously on Romney's payroll...

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#23 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:04 PM EDT

                                        he is a terrorist i guess all white people are terrorist

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#24 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

                                        Another jack ass who thinks with his weapons and not with his mind. Too bad he pulled this stunt in New Mexico. New Mexico Police are some of the best trained men and women in the world and don't take much crap from anyone. It's the true WILD WEST with a new attitude. Would you like that served red or green or Christmas?

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#25 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

                                        Amen to that! Well spoken- NM police are very well trained and have to come in contact with unknown situations often in rural, desolate areas. So which is hotter today, red or green?

                                          #25.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:21 AM EDT
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                                          i call b.s. americans have the right and should exercise that right to bear arms....go do some research on quotes from our founding fathers on letting the government get too big...like it is today...some of you anti gun people make me want to puke...yup, trust your big brother government to keep telling you lies and stealing your money AND run this country into the ground...we've lost a long time ago....you damn brainwashed people need a brain. now, i don't believe in killing innocent people...that's not what's behind the right to bear arms....it is to keep the government in check and protect your family and land. you stupid morons keep voting the same idiots into office....guess what, dems/repukes...theyre all bad apples. indies, greens..all the same...ron paul...LOLOLOL...my fellow "dumbed" down americans. there is NO hope until the Creator returns to end this experiment gone bad and remove the cancer. there will be no fix because humans have been corrupted and are rotten from the inside...thru no fault of their own...we can argue over religious crap and how there is no God or no evil or bla bla bla...but i guess as the world continues to go to crap, we will all find out 1 day. to live with your head in the sand is a great thing...aint it!?!?!? good luck...

                                            Reply#26 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

                                            Nice,

                                            When did you give up on our country?

                                            Why not work, in a civilized manner, to FIX the problems and make our country greater than it ever was?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #26.1 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

                                            Because the progressives have so screwed it up that we need to tear it apart first.

                                              #26.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 AM EDT

                                              No the liberals have done that.

                                                #26.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

                                                This is the chain used by controllers to shackle peoples true instinct.

                                                The human is not, for example, thought capable of volitional control over his/her actions, or of deciding whether he/she will act or not act in a certain way; his/her actions are to be preconditioned and beyond his/her control, he/she is a stimulus response mechanism.

                                                Your response mechanism is stimulated 24/7. Unimaginable conditioning .

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #26.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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