I would think Holder and the Florida Attorney general are creating a witness as we speak. They have to find Zimmerman guilty come hell or high water. You can throw fairness, truth, and justice out the window. The mob has called for guilt.

Ray, How do you know? He was a neighborhood watchman. His job is to watch the actions of people walking the neighborhood at night. A rash of break ins and you think Zimmerman should have just walked away. How do you know the kid isn't responsible for these break ins?

We really need to see Martins arrest record to make a more accurate judgement as to what kind of person he was.

searcher8: You have been reading this NBC news too much to get a fair story.After all this is the news that spliced the tape to make it say something not even in the context that Zimmerman said it.This NBC also still only shows the photo of a 12 year old innocent looking Martin. There is So Much wrong with the way this story has been told.It is sickening! The dispatcher Did Not specifically tell him Not To follow martin. She said "We Do Not Need You To Do That" If Zimmerman was out to kill this kid.Why did he call the police? Why didn't he just shoot and Then call the police?Why shoot him when he knew that the police would be there any second?Unless it was Self Defence? This court is SO Scared of what the Black community will do that they are willing to convicted a innocent person.I Do live in Florida and have followed this from day one.Zimmerman will Never get a Fair trial here. They are not looking for Justice.They want Zimmerman Dead!

and the 911 dispatch specifically told him NOT to pursue Martin. Once Zimmerman decide to completely disregard the 911 dispatch and persue Martin anyway, THAT is when he became the aggressor. Everything else is irrelevant.

How do you know he pursued? The ONLY evidence either way is George acknowledging the dispatcher with "ok". On one side you have NOTHING that says he kept going after him, and on the other you have George saying he didn't. That he turned around and headed back and then got jumped. So show me ANYTHING that proves he kept after TM, otherwise drop the retarded claim that he did.

Why do these news outlets CONTINUE to use a OLD PICTURE of Trayvon....

Lets use a more recent picture that doesn't portray the kid as some innocent toddler

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/trayvon-martin-double-finger-600x350.jpg

Ray-402 You can follow anybody (that's why is so difficult to prosecute stalkers) and as long as you don't touch the person you are committing no crime. If Trevon hit George first he was the aggressor.

BP-2252891

Did you listen to the 911 tapes? Zimmerman could not find Martin he had lost him he even told the 911 dispatcher that he couldn't see him anymore.....so please tell me how Martin turned around and hit Zimmerman if Zimmerman wasn't even following him anymore. Some of you just post your nonsense and opinions without even researching the facts and some of you act like you are the Prosecution's star witness that saw the whole thing go down. Fact is none of you were there that night and none of you know or saw what really happened. So since none of you were there then the only way to come to any kind of a conclusion is to look at the facts. Half the people that post here or give their assessment of what happened your post do not even match up with the known facts we have of that night.... the facts are all laid out in the 911 tapes, witness testimony and evidence that has been released by the police and that is what is gonna be judged in the trial not any of your opinions on what you "think" might happened that night.

Are you saying that the murderer saw Trayvon breaking and entering? Even if you are intimating such a thing, it is a blatant lie. You don't need to worry yourself about what may or may not happen in my abode. But people like you would wish something like that. I'll give you that much. Phffft!

ANOTHER LIE by the MURDERER......

“It just happened so quickly,” Zimmerman said. But, he said, “I didn’t think I hit him.” How do you shoot someone practically poiont blank in the chest and Not realize that the person was hit. Angela Corey is gonna make him wish he never opened his lying mouth on Faux. Everything he said tonight is fair game in court. Idiot! He's even too stupid to know enough tokeep his lying pie-hole shut. Did anyone see the look his lawyer shot him during the interview? Priceless!!!! You could just read "shut up, fool" all over his lawyers face.

Given how political this case has become and all the media attention, it will be difficult to get a "clean" jury, and a hung jury would result in a not guilty verdict. That being said, you can bet the the prosecution has an ace in the hole. And ultimately, GZ will have to take the stand and testify. He has changed his story repeatedly so we already know he is a liar and this will come out in the trial. The jury may still hang, but that does not mean he is innocent. His story really doesn't add up, but he might still get off.

*says*

Yellow journalism is alive and well in America.

This is an obvious lynching of George Zimmerman. You didn't need any evidence from the beginning of the medias sensationalistic efforts to create a racial issue out of this.

The instant the media began identifying Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic" the ground rules were laid. This had nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it was all about creating a spectacle. A racial spectacle.

Then the usual gaggle of race baiters pounced all over this circus. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Frederica Wilson, Hank Johnson and others began their racist diatribes and the media was giddy. The ultimate insult was when Obama claimed "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon".

Today Chicago is a war-zone. People are being murdered at a rate unseen in history. Between June 27 and July 11 there were 26 murders by gunshot and stabbing. That's almost 2 per day!

Where is the same outrage from the black community? Where is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Fredrica Wilson and others exclaiming their outrage? Where are the bleeding heart black Liberals that are obviously looking for a racial issue but not a black community issue?

Since 2008, more than 530 youth have been killed in Chicago with nearly 80 percent of the homicides occurring in 22 African-American or Latino community areas on the city’s South, Southwest and West sides. Chicago has more youth homicides than any other American city. Chicago has a homicide rate more than double those of New York City and Los Angeles. I wonder how many of these have been identified as “White Hispanics”.

The Martin/Zimmerman incident is a tragedy but it has been exploited for political and racial opportunity, no more, no less. It is simply an issue the courts should and must settle. Its sensationalism is a disgrace when we see the massacres occurring in Chicago, Detroit and other cities with barely a peep from the media and race-baiters.

A certain Roman Emperor playing a musical instrument while his city burned comes to mind.

SEARCHER8 why dont you get your facts straight the dispatcher said he didnt have to follow him not not to

tyler/sally; who the heck is collapsing ,regular comments/ is msnbc just for the political correct crowd, change the way comments can be collapsed.

Just some phukin clown

Funny, because I was thinking the same thing about your comment.

so if you get your ass kicked in a fight YOU started, then that makes YOU the victim? Please, Zimmerman started the fight, he chased the kid down, if there is any form of self defense here it's Martin. Just because he's a better fighter than Zimmerman doesn't mean he deserves to get shot or that it's "God's plan." what a pig.

A Giant Collapsethon!! Sooner or later Newsvine is going to have to change WHY and HOW comments are collapsed. As we get closer to the elections I just know that one day I'll open the comments and EVERY comment will be collapsed. I have also noticed that a number of new Vine users have no idea why comments are collapsed. Some think it's because of a violation of the COH. No, that get's you suspended.

Anybody can collapse a comment, and a concerted effort can collapse any comment really quickly. I think it is terrible for Newsvine to permit just about every single comment by "Feisty Redhead" to be collapsed by nothing more than a tiny group of fascist right wingers trolling the Vine. I am willing to be exposed to all of their garbage, they should have to deal with mine. I again suggest that, like the profanity filter, we should have a toggle on our account page: "Permit collapse" or "Keep all comments un-collapsed" Thanks for listening.

Yellow journalism is alive and well in America.

Agreed. And, that would be in the form of Sean Hannity on Faux News.

Skittles and an Arizona WATERMELON drink. Come on MSNBC why watermelon? Huh? Are you racist? Yeah, you racist pieces of sh*t! Did you here that everyone?! MSNBC is racist and promotes the killing of blacks, I know it! Its obvious!

That's ALMOST how ridiculous this racism trend is getting...

actually softballmom zimmerman wasnt an appointed watchman. the neighborhood watch he claimed he was with said zimmerman was never really part of their neighborhood watch and that their neighborhood watch has regulations that they are not to follow nor carry fire arms. so either way zimmerman was in the wrong. the neighborhood watch stated that all members would not follow they would call police and stay put. they are not to make any contact with the suspicious person. which zimmerman fully neglected to follow the rules. and by zimmerman saying he would not change a thing that happened that night just shows he has no remorse. he is probably laughing about it all right now. he has proved himself a liar on many accounts. his word has no faith to it anymore.

Him being a member of the neighborhood watch has nothing at all to do with this. He was not on a patrol. He was just a private citizen that was on his way to the store. He saw someone that he found suspicious. Does not matter why he found him suspicious. That is up to him. So he calls the police. The guy he finds suspicious starts to hurry away. So he gets out of his car and follows him to keep him in sight for the police. The dispatcher figures out that he is following the guy, and says that they do not need him to do that. Not to "stop following him", just that they "do not need him to do that".

You know why they say that? LIABILITY! They do not want to get sued. Either by the person who is doing the following if they get hurt, or by the person being followed because then they could claim that they were being followed by an agent of the police.

If you listen to the tape you here him running. The dispatcher says that they do not need him to do that and then you hear the running stop and he says OK. After that, who knows what happened. Maybe he milled around waiting for the police. Maybe he starts heading back for his truck. But a confrontation starts. Martin breaks his nose.

It is completely legal to follow someone. Maybe Martin was afraid, maybe he thought Zimmerman was some white-Hispanic gang member that wanted to do him harm. So maybe Martin was mistaken about Zimmerman, but was still within his rights to defend himself. Maybe Zimmerman was mistaken about Martin, but he was within his rights to defend himself when being attacked.

Why is the Media STILL using the Angelic looking photo of Trayvon at 12 in their articles.

They should use the most recent photo possible. I believe it's a pic of him showing off his thug teeth or flipping the bird.

Zimmerman is guilty of involuntary Manslaughter at the MOST.

"I'm not a murderer?" ???

Maybe the jury will find that he is a justified murderer (and I'm not taking a position on that), but if he thinks he is not a murderer after shooting a kid in the chest, he's in some pretty serious denial.

Zimmerman is guilty of no crime and he had every right to use deadly force to end the murderous assault of choice by Martin.

"I hope it’s the most difficult thing I’ll ever go through in my life."

Typical narcissistic comment from a murderer.

Man up, Zimmie-boy, and take responsibility for your own actions for once! You could have stayed in your truck and waited for the police to handle the NON-situation, like any law-abiding citizen would have done. Instead, you CHOSE to stalk and kill this kid. In the real world, there are consequences for your actions.

“I feel it was all God’s plan.”

Nope - yours.

If he didn't do anything wrong and wouldn't change what happened, what's there to be sorry for?

Did you murder Travyon Martin, Zimmerman? Yes?

Then you're a murderer. Sorry to burst your little bubble of self-centeredness.

Man up, Zimmie-boy, and take responsibility for your own actions for once! You could have stayed in your truck and waited for the police to handle the NON-situation, like any law-abiding citizen would have done.

Good post!

Isn't it fascinating how many people are interested in what is happening in Chicago? No Zimmerman case-zero interest.

But, here is the main point. The two are not comparable. First of all,. inner city vilence is nothing new. Second, when these crimes are committed, the perpetrators are sought and if caught, brought to justice. Third, in the Martin case, Zimmerman was essentially exonerated at the scene. There were enough questions to bring the case to a grand jury or conduct further a investigation, but Zimmerman's word was accepted. Fourth, no one is convicting Zimmerman. Questions are being raised and they should be answered.

Mostly though, I am struck by the racsim in the comparison to Chicago. It is as if deaths caused by blacks in largely gang and drug wars, makes it alright for Zimmerman to kill a black possibly criminally. If these people were really concerned about what is goiing on in Chicago, they would have addressed that prior to now. It is being addressed now to divert attention from the facts of the specific case in front of us.

Yeah, because stalking someone is completely legal.

A lot less than it does to charge with murder. Which obviously they had enough to charge Zimmerman with.

How does "see something, say something" turn into tail someone? He did the first two and was expressly told not to do the the third.

This is why we Carry Concealed in Florida....I wonder if P.Obama had 2 more sons they would look like the 2 in the video....

"Surveillance Vid Shows 71-Year-Old Concealed Carry Holder Opening Fire on Would-Be Robbers"

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surveillance-vid-shows-71-year-old-concealed-carry-holder-opening-fire-on-would-be-robbers/

"Video of robbery at Delray Beach Dunkin' Donuts Wednesday morning released by Boynton Beach police

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_s_palm_beach_county/delray_beach/video-of-robbery-at-delray-beach-dunkin-donuts-wednesday-morning-released-by-boynton-beach-police#ixzz20y6ubLrM

FYI, don't know why people on here keep throwing out the neighborhood watch rules. They don't apply in this situation for several reasons, one of which is he was not on patrol and they do not have a sanctioned neighborhood watch supervised by the police department. So quoting the neighborhood watch rules is just b.s., as they do not apply. Zimmerman was not committing any crimes by following Trayvon while on the phone with dispatcher, and according to all of the statements, Zimmerman never displayed his firearm until he fired it. At the point where Trayvon struck Zimmerman is when the first criminal act took place and it was committed by Trayvon. He had no justification for attacking Zimmerman and if he hadn't, he would be alive today. Trayvon's families attorney knew how to rile up public opinion, from releasing old photos etc to sway public opinion against Zimmerman. They do not want justice as justice would have been to allow the state attorney to impanel a grand jury. They want revenge and are using public opinion based on incomplete facts to sway people exactly the way people get on here and have found Zimmerman guilty without a trial. Just like MSNBC editing the 9-11 tapes to make it sound like Zimmerman was racist, leaving out the 9-11 operator asking Zimmerman the race of the suspect. Mike in Delray is correct on the law and the way this will play out.

And I, and a lot of Americans are with you on this.

Well said.

Hey Mike,

Congrats!! Did you hear the news?

http://www.wpbf.com/news/money/Delray-Beach-named-Most-Fun-Small-Town-in-the-USA/-/8788684/15583090/-/item/0/-/ronttx/-/index.html

"Mike in Delray Comment collapsed by the community

Trayvon hit....you must acquit !!!....Stalking my eye, do you have any idea what it takes to charge someone with Stalking ???...Scheeesh !!"

You can't go pick a fight and if you start losing call self defense and kill them. Also how do you know Trayvon hit? And if he did did he do it after Zimmerman threaten him with a gun? If so it was Martin that had the right stand his ground. It may have been stupid but he had that right. Zimmerman had NO right to even be approaching him much less with a gun.

I truly believe that most of us would like to think this was all a tragic mishap. Like an automobile accident on the Interstate where a blown front tire was the cause of a head-on collision that took the life of an innocent 17 yr. old young man.

That is not the case. This very vague "Stand your Ground" law served no practical purpose except a political ploy to please conservative NRA members and a number of gun owning militants. We have had effective self-defense laws on the books for over 150 years. There is always room for modest and modern improvement for any law. Many of us knew that this over-reaching law would allow unstable gun nuts to practice murder under the guise of self-defense.

I grieve for the family that lost their young son to a long-time wanna-be cop. I also grieve for the family of a seriously disturbed young man that mistakenly believed this law gave him immunity for murdering another under the pretense of self-defense. His family must have have known that he was on a very short fuse for most of his life. They must live with their failure of intervening earlier to prevent such a tragedy in the making. I fully understand that I would not be as generous to the Zimmerman family if it had been my son that was murdered.

The true murderers of young Martin (and many others like him) are not unstable people like Zimmerman. They are the political Pacs and legislators that deliberately pass such careless laws merely to gain political favor. Zimmerman belongs in a padded cell. The fools that placed his finger on the trigger through careless legislation are the real monsters.

KRedcorn - why not just make it legal to defend yourself with a Taser and not a concealed handgun? In that case, Zimmerman would have stood his ground and Trayvon would most likely still be alive to tell us what really happened.

Why is it that people think they need to have a gun to kill people - as if that's the only means of self-defense we have in this world...

You can't go pick a fight and if you start losing call self defense and kill them. Also how do you know Trayvon hit? And if he did did he do it after Zimmerman threaten him with a gun?

Listen to yourself. Your first line you make the statement that Zimmerman picked a fight then you go to admonish Mike about assumptions? All evidence so far syncs with Zimmerman's story yet you are totally ready to believe wild speculations instead.

Now you have Trayvon throwing the first punch but only after Zimmerman threatened him with a gun? I thought Trayvon was supposed to be a bright student? Punching someone that's pointing a gun at you doesn't sound too bright. These fantasies being created to justify this lynching are getting wilder every day.

Mostly, guns are carried to compensate for inadequencies of character and penises

Sandie,

Why would anyone attempt to f*ck somebody to death when they could just shoot them?

He is certainly a murderer.

He probably is a racist.

And he is a liar.

He just keeps changing his story again and again. Hoping prosecuters use this interview to show how Z keeps lying.

"“It didn’t look like he was a resident.” What the heck does that mean? Means that Z is def. a racist.

Jb-1986842 You can say what you want but the fact is Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself.

Jb,

Did Trayvon Martin confirm that he attacked Zimmerman?

"“It didn’t look like he was a resident.” What the heck does that mean? Means that Z is def. a racist.

It only means Zimmerman is a racist if you want it to mean that he is. Could it be that a resident would not be walking around looking at the houses in the rain?

Ebeneezer - "why not just make it legal to defend yourself with a Taser and not a concealed handgun? In that case, Zimmerman would have stood his ground and Trayvon would most likely still be alive to tell us what really happened."

Really?

How many reasons do you need?

Tasers fail more often, tasers dont stop everyone, what happens when you have more than one attacker, what happens when your attacker has a gun.... becuase you dont bring a knife to a gun fight...

YOU LOSE!!! That's why!

25Walker (Post 2.33),

We know Trayvon threw the first punch because Zimmerman didn't throw any. Trayvon's only injuries were a gunshot wound (had to have occurred at the end of the fight) and a cut on his knuckle (probably from punching Zimmerman).

Unless someone can prove that Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, I don't see how the claim of self-defense can be disproved.

Scubasteve,

Go bare-knuckle boxing. After 5 or 6 blows (Zimmerman said that every time he tried to get up he was struck again) look at how bloody and bruised your knuckles are. The forensic evidence of only having a small cut on his knuckle is the most damning evidence that exists against Zimmerman's story.

Dave2001spaceoddest-y (good book btw),

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "The forensic evidence of only having a small cut on his knuckle is the most damning evidence that exists against Zimmerman's story." It seems to support the fact that Zimmerman was punched. Especially when coupled with the injuries on Zimmerman.

Once you are assaulted, and the assailant is on top of you, you have a right to defend yourself.

Dave2001spaceoddest-y

"Go bare-knuckle boxing. After 5 or 6 blows (Zimmerman said that every time he tried to get up he was struck again) look at how bloody and bruised your knuckles are. The forensic evidence of only having a small cut on his knuckle is the most damning evidence that exists against Zimmerman's story."

I was involved in a fair number of bar brawls in my youth, both winning and losing a few. I do not remember ever having bloody and bruised knuckles afterward. So, it is possible to pummel someone with little or no damage to ones own hands.

The fact that there is a "small" cut to Martin's hand is, in my experience, more telling of how hard he did hit Zimmerman.

But here is what amazes me the most, well not really, it seems to be the evil conservative Republican types who are defending the legal system "Innocent until proven guilty". Isn't it supposed to be the liberals who are against convicting a man in the media or without a trial, yet here you are calling this man a murderer.

Here's something to think about.

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.
With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless.. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died.
They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.
When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years,"
he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.
Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them..
Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..
As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.
The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.
After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.
When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.
The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened.
On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term..

He later had the sentence reduced,

Sure sounds familiar don't it.

" In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered."

The second half of your first sentence is merely conjecture and opinion. The last sentence fully explains the charges. Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England , killed one burglar and wounded another with an ILLEGAL WEAPON.

Let's say that John Smith of Main Street, Anytown, U.S.A confronted two burglars in his home. He opens fire and kills them with an illegal grenade launcher. Do you see a different outcome for American Mr. Smith than British Mr. Martin? So your point is what?

To be fair in comparing British gun laws to American gun laws, you must look at the other side of the equation. What is the per capita death rate by fire-arms(both legal and illegal) in England compared to the U.S.A.? I don't believe that Americans(as a whole) are inclined to be that much more murderous than the Brits. The only logical conclusion is that the much more lax gun laws in America (that place millions of fire-arms in the hands of the populace) are the likely culprit.

He "apologizes", but says he does not regret his actions. That's not an apology. That's just another lie.

Scubasteve58001

We know Trayvon threw the first punch because Zimmerman didn't throw any

Scubasteve,

We know that against Neighborhood watch rules, that Zimmerman did more than the rule of "watch." We know that against the police dispatcher's order that Zimmerman got out of his car. We know that against Neighborhood watch rules, Zimmerman possessed a deadly weapon, a loaded gun.

Trayvon's only injuries were a gunshot wound

Are you sick enough to believe that Zimmerman did not shoot Trayvon "enough?"

had to have occurred at the end of the fight

If a stranger was following you, you would attempt to defend yourself.

(probably from punching Zimmerman).

George was the aggressor. He deserved whatever "punches" he may have received.

Unless someone can prove that Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation

You are feigning ignorance.

Your above statement lacks common sense.

When Zimmerman removed his himself from his vehicle, he initiated the entire chain of events.

The undertaker who prepared Trayvon's body stated that there was only one small bruise on one this murder victim's hands. If Trayvon had repeatedly punched Zimmerman, his hands would have shown multiple bruises. Young, Martin hands did not have multiple bruises. No such evidence exists.

Zimmerman is a liar.

I don't see how the claim of self-defense can be disproved.

What a person sees, depends on who is doing the "looking."

It is easy to see that Zimmerman should be convicted of murder.

25Walker,

What did I say that doesn't make sense? JB said that Trayvon started the confrontation and you questioned that (in post 2.33).

In response, I provided the injury report as supporting evidence that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. My reasoning is, if Zimmerman had attacked Trayvon, why didn't Trayvon suffer any injuries other than the gunshot wound?

And my point wasn't that Zimmerman didn't "shoot Trayvon enough" (I truly have no idea how you construed that thought from my words). It was that Zimmerman's injuries had to have occurred before Trayvon was shot, because Trayvon wouldn't have been able to cause those injuries afterward.

As far as you being fixated on him being in the neighborhood watch, I don't see how his membership or their rules have any legal bearing. If he hadn't been in the neighborhood watch, and had just been random neighbor, would you consider him innocent?

Regarding Zimmerman leaving his vehicle, it was, in retrospect, a really stupid choice. But that doesn't make it illegal. You can't convict someone of murder because they got out of a car. (Zimmerman got out of the car before the dispatcher told him "We don't need you to do that." FYI). Furthermore, no one can actually prove that Zimmerman DIDN'T follow the dispatcher's advice.

If you are willing to cite sources and debate like a reasonable person, I'd be happy to discuss it with you. On the other hand, if you are going to make personal attacks and argue based on wild supposition, just tell me now so I can put you on my ignore list.

"Acting Suspicious" is just a bullcrap way of saying "He was black, I was white, that makes me right". He murdered a child in cold blood; there is never an excuse for that. The Florida cops screwed up and compromised the case against Zimmerman ("Stand your Ground" is a defence for court, not an excuse to keep from being arrested).

Zimmerman's interview smells like old fish, and is about as safe to take as valuable. He's a racist, he plugged a porch-monkey-boy, and he doesn't think he should be found guilty for what he decided was a disease on the community (based only on Trayven's appearance). He's a dangerous nut and needs to be locked away with lots of gentlemen who will show him their opinion of people who murder children. If he survives, then maybe next time, he'll know better than to stalk someone when the 911 operators tell him not to.

@ commonsense101 #2.40

" In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered."

1) The second half of your first sentence is merely conjecture and opinion. The last sentence fully explains the charges. Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England , killed one burglar and wounded another with an ILLEGAL WEAPON.

2) Let's say that John Smith of Main Street, Anytown, U.S.A confronted two burglars in his home. He opens fire and kills them with an illegal grenade launcher. Do you see a different outcome for American Mr. Smith than British Mr. Martin? So your point is what?

3) To be fair in comparing British gun laws to American gun laws, you must look at the other side of the equation. What is the per capita death rate by fire-arms(both legal and illegal) in England compared to the U.S.A.? I don't believe that Americans(as a whole) are inclined to be that much more murderous than the Brits. The only logical conclusion is that the much more lax gun laws in America (that place millions of fire-arms in the hands of the populace) are the likely culprit.

1) "both winning and losing a few." is the second half of my first sentence. The paragraph prior to that is a quote from "Dave2001spaceoddest-y" Please note the quotations around his statements (I am still learning how to quote and reply to others here) Those comments are based on real life experience, and are not conjecture or opinion.

2) You missed the point, he was charged with first degree murder for defending himself, instead of just being charged with an illegal weapon. By default then you are saying that John Smith should be charged with murder for using an illegal weapon even though he had a right to defend himself and would otherwise be innocent had he used a baseball bat.

3) And I was not comparing gun laws, (Oh, and btw, when they passed those gun laws, theft, burglary and other crimes went up 40%, I don't have the source of that stat anymore, but you can check it out if you doubt me) I was simple offering a similar case up for consideration.

Did you read about how the media portrayed the burglars?, and compare it to Martin. All of a sudden the kid is a saint, never did anything wrong, etc. Now I'm not saying I know what happened that night and that Zimmerman is innocent, but just be careful about how the media portrays someone to fit their agenda.

And if you really want to know where we really stand in that category, and compare it to gun laws, check this out:

When Zimmerman removed his himself from his vehicle, he initiated the entire chain of events.

Precisely. As a watch person, his job was finished with his non-emergency call to the police. He was only suppose to be the eyes and ears for the community.

yahtc

Precisely. As a watch person, his job was finished with his non-emergency call to the police

You know for a fact that George was NOT on patrol but rather a concerned citizen. WHY do you keep insisting on beating that dead horse?

While exiting his vehicle was not the smartest thing to do, especially in hind sight, life is a chain of events. Had any one of the links in the chain been broken or changed this sad event may have been avoided. Had Trayvon not taken a swing, had Trayvon called 9-1-1, had he LISTENED to his GF and RUN. These are just THREE things Trayvon could have done differently. Let me guess though... you feel that it wasn't Trayvons responsibility to do things differently... it's always the responsibility of someone else.

and playing the "I pray every day.." card left me ROFL

Relies On Fools Literally=ROFL

So why is so much being communicated to the public on how he feels...can we also hear from the dead teen?

Richard,

I think the information was released by the court, rather than the prosecutor; as a result of Florida having some sort of open records law. But continue on with your non-sensical rant.

And how does this change the fact that a teen who wasn't breaking the law and was in a place he had a right to be was followed and gunned down by a vigilante?

z, stop lying. Worry and pray for your own soul. I am sure the parents of TM are doing just fine. Even after you murdered their son. You media manipulation tactics are scripted and you know you are a liar.

If one should be judged by the fruits they bare then your fruit prove you to be a racist, a liar and a murderer.

At least he's getting a chance at due process something that Trayvon did not get after Zimmerman made himself Judge, Jury, and Executioner for a teen who's only known crime was walking through Zimmerman's neighborhood while being black.

Citizen - That's a great cop out. Its not the open records law in florida. The PROSECUTION released this. This never had to be included to begin with but thats ok "blame" the law. The judge could have said no. There are a lot of reasons this didn't have to be sent out and it has NOTHING to do with the case. I watched someone say "whats next they bring in someone who says GZ was eating a black and white cookie and he only ate the white parts?"

Here read this and try and understand. This was the prosecution who did this:

"That request was denied on July 13, 2012 by Judge Lester. Because there is a Motion for Disqualification pending, this morning, we asked the prosecution not to release Witness #9’s statement until there was a ruling on the Motion for Disqualification. This is an appropriate request as, should the motion for disqualification be granted, reconsideration of recent rulings by the judge is appropriate. However, the prosecution elected to make the public disclosure anyway"

So who did what again????

obama-azz, don't abuse the Lord.

Hannity tracked him down before he had a lawyer?!? lol... gives new meaning to the term "ambulance chaser" doesn't it. Why didn't Sean ask him about his own history of violence?

azz,

What kind of nasty, callus, shameful comment is that. Are you that much of hater that you can possibly say something that cruel to parents that have lost their child. There's an old saying, when good men do nothing, evil flourishes. Apparently, evidenced by your comment evil is alive and well in you. Go home and stay there.

What he says, or whatever happened before the fight, doesn't matter to you anyway, you assumed he was a "bad guy" the minute you saw the 13 year old pictures of Trayvon Martin and the mugshot of then 21 year old George Zimmerman, and the hate hasn't stopped since.

And you, Anna, decided Zimm was innocent as soon as you saw Trayvon was black and that Jackson and Sharpton got involved. See how that works?

Some Lame Name

The law he broke was punching GZ in the face, and he got wasted for it.

RTyp0

And you, Anna, decided Zimm was innocent as soon as you saw Trayvon was black and that Jackson and Sharpton got involved. See how that works?

Heck no, you couldn't be further from the truth. I read about the case, listened to audio files, looked at maps, etc. I couldn't care less about race or color. I simply did not jump to conclusions the day I first saw the 13 year old Trayvon pictures and Zimmerman's mugshot, something didn't seem right about these pictures as they mentioned the "kid" was 17 year old, and the adult was 28.

He "apologizes", but says he does not regret his actions. That's not an apology. That's just another lie

Exactly!

-Anna-

RTyp0

And you, Anna, decided Zimm was innocent as soon as you saw Trayvon was black and that Jackson and Sharpton got involved. See how that works?

Heck no, you couldn't be further from the truth. I read about the case, listened to audio files, looked at maps, etc. I couldn't care less about race or color. I simply did not jump to conclusions the day I first saw the 13 year old Trayvon pictures and Zimmerman's mugshot, something didn't seem right about these pictures as they mentioned the "kid" was 17 year old, and the adult was 28.

The pictures of Trayvon Martin were current. He was just twenty one days into his seventeenth year when he was killed. He was a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin#Trayvon_Martin

Trayvon Benjamin Martin (February 5, 1995 – February 26, 2012)

The picture of Trayvon Martin with the yellowed teeth are photoshopped. If you look at the picture Trayvon Martin's front teeth are white. No real grill leaves the front teeth uncovered. The racist hacker who hacked into his facebook page photoshopped and added images and text.

kappa_man_stew

The picture of Trayvon Martin with the yellowed teeth are photoshopped. If you look at the picture Trayvon Martin's front teeth are white. No real grill leaves the front teeth uncovered. The racist hacker who hacked into his facebook page photoshopped and added images and text.

Actually the photo with the grill appeared on Trayvons #NO_LIMIT_NIGGA twitter account. The argument by Trayvon supporters is that the grill is cheap and commonly available at flea markets in FL. But isn't it rather late in the story to be arguing about which photo is him? The case does NOT revolve around any prior photos but rather if George was JUSTIFIED in shooting Trayvon.... nothing more and nothing less.

I guess he couldn't pray before he shot because he was getting his head bashed into concrete. How about we stop making judgement on things we do not really know the answer to. Most have him hanging from a tree and they do not even know why, mostly because they were told he was guilty.... we live amongst cattle.... just herd us.. Moo Moo

And he had time to think twice(if he even thought the first time) to go back home and let the cops handle the situation like they told him to!(which there wasn't a situation til Zimmerman created it with his false machismo, John Wayne mentality) Anyway you paint it, just because Zimmerman DID create the situation, he's guilty of murder, period! If he'd followed directions from the police dispatcher and gone back home, HE would be home now instead of in hiding like a lil scared beotch, and Trayvon would still be alive maybe watchin' TV with his Dad or something, but good ol' "I'll protect you" Zimmy, screwed 2 families with one really bad and stupid decision that can never be changed. Must be nice to know that YOU have a target on you now huh? Maybe you and Casey Anthony can hook up. That would be classic in many ways

He's a wanna be guy that murdered the kid in cold blood. All evidence proves that he's a liar, as well. I continued respect for his family and hope their grief eases with time.

zz,

Your really are a miserable toad, think its cute or some form of humor to post such a unbelievably callus comment. Don't bring God into this you don't have the right. Misbegotten creature.

Too bad his parents didn't teach him common sense or to keep his hands to himself......perhaps he would still be alive! Unfortunately, they raised a thug

Too bad Zimmerman's parents didn't teach him to let the police do the policing and not to run after every black kid who is walking in the rain. Police statistics state that only 7 breakins over a 5 year period happened in that condo community! Yet Zimmerman's calls to police always start with "we've had a lot of breakins lately and I see a suspicious (read: black) person in the area. I guess white people don't commit any crimes any Sanford. They sure do where I live; in fact, they commit most of them! Not to mention the big time crooks like bankers....

This is exactly how litttle Emmett Till died. They said he looked at a white woman and whistled at her. They cut him up and threw him in the river.

In his first television interview, George Zimmerman walked through his version of what happened the night he killed Trayvon Martin. He said he does not regret being armed, nor does he regret his actions.

Wow, even after all the headaches, media attention, his life turned upside down and possibility of being prisioned......... and he still doesn't regret hs actions? Really? I bet majority of us had that second chance, we would have not left the vehicle.

KeenInsight: If just Once you would read the Whole story.You would find that Zimmerman when asked by the dispatcher if he was black or white Zimmerman didn't know.They Tried to make this a Hate Crime and show that Zimmerman is a racist.The FBI did the investigation and talked to everyone they could and even the Ex girlfriend said they has Never heard Zimmerman say anything racist.He in fact started a petition against the old police Chief because the cops son and punched a homeless Black Man and was not arrested,Both George and His wife had mentored 2 Black children.Funny for someone so racist to stand up for Black people.The FBI Said that they found No evidence to prove george racist. And What does this in any way have any connection to Emmitt Till? NOTHING! Except what YOU want it to be.

Yeah, and then the murderer turns around and apologizes to his freaky lying family, the Martins and America. If he has no regrets, why apologize. AND FOR WHAT!

Really? And the media haven't had their version all over the place, including the Al Sharpton's of the world? Please!

Al Sharpton and media are not defendants in a murder trial in court. Zimmerman is. He's charged with 2nd degree murder. The court proceedings may include a "stand your ground hearing" before a trial. That hearing may determine whether or not a trial takes place. Again, this is a criminal murder trial. If the defendant, Zimmerman, wants to testify in the COURT hearing about the events of the shooting and explain it was self defense the LAW requires that testimony to be under oath and subject to cross examination. This "interview", in my opinion, is a pathetic attempt to circumvent the required legal court process.

If you think the post you replied to has ANYTHING even remotely to do with any other TV or Media personality or Sharpton you are mistaken. I am talking about EVIDENCE in court proceedings and the manner in which such evidence has to be accepted or not. (i.e. testimony is under oath/cross examined).

Anna, you are grossly mistaken.

Remy, I cant argue that its wrong but the media does the same thing airing there version of what happened and DA's are famous for doing the samething to taint the jury pool. It aint right but hes got to defend himself.

Remy1b: stop, you have embarrassed yourself enough.

Geeeesh. Not 10 minutes later in the interview he says he didn't follow Trayvon. You can't believe a thing this guys says.

Hannity might as well had held his hand through this whole thing. Not one real question was asked.

Thank you. I agree that every time Zimmerman opens his mouth, it's not good. That will keep getting him in trouble. He should not do any interviews until the case is over with. He does not listen to his lawyer and imo that will cost him.

Has Hannity(FOX) EVER had credibility??? If he did, that in itself would be a news worthy subject

Hannity had him on the phone before he even had a lawyer - jesus, he must have been drooling over the bonus the NRA would slip him under the table for this one.

It's been my experience that people who feel they have to tell the world they are not a racist ARE racist.

no way in the world this guy should be interviewed on national tv. anyone else in the country can say what they like, but he's the defendant!

hannibal hannity is a brainless moron entertainer who doesnt give a @!$%# about truth

Beginning to look like another Bernard Goetz trial scenario: Guilty until proven innocent? Against an aggressor? Really?

I was not there, I did not see what happened. I do KNOW a 17 year old kid is dead.

How could he (Zimmerman) tell if someone lived in the complex, just by looking at them? Do they wear uniforms? Does he know every resident by sight? It seems pretty obvious he didn't think a young black male belonged in the complex.

Aren't neighborhood watch volunteers just supposed to watch and report suspicious activity? Why did he feel the need to carry a gun while he was driving around in his car? What is a person on ADD meds AND anxiety meds doing carrying a gun? Did it not occur to him that either medication might affect his judgement and/or reactions?

Look at it this way, if you were 17 and went to the store and bought your snack and were returning to the place you had been invited to, would you resent a strange man following you, first in his car and then on foot? Would you think "Oh, he must be a neighborhood watch volunteer" or perhaps you might think he was some kind of creep, maybe looking to rob you or try to "hook up" with you?

Any way you slice this it looks really bad.... Zimmerman CHOSE to get out of his car, WITH a gun and FOLLOW that kid, he then chose to shoot him. We only have his word for it that Treyvon was the aggressor, for all we know he may have tried to detain Treyvon until the police came and then a fight broke out.

EXACTLY!

I think that GZ made a few mistakes that night, and is probably ultimately somewhat responsible for Martin's death.

But I just don't see how he can be convicted. Obviously, none of us know if there is in fact more incriminating evidence that hasn't been revealed. But as it stands, there simply is not evidence to prove 2nd degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. If we were to take GZ's version of events as the truth, he'd be innocent. But where is the clear evidence that his version his false? Obviously, there are questions about his version of events (and possibly some holes), but you need more than that for a guilty verdict.

People here are saying that the fact that GZ is coming onto to TV to tell his version, must mean that he is guilty. Maybe, but you need evidence. The fact that he obviously wants to avoid going on TV - that's not evidence in a court of law.

It's odd that even though the police told Zimmerman to stay in his car; he murdered a ma he found 'suspicious'. Take race out of it. How 'suspicious' are you to anyone? Do they have the right to murder you in cold blood? AFTER the police have advised ou to stay in the safety of your car?

This guy got nearly half a million dollars "in suport" of him He lied about that. His wife lied about it. But one thing is clear: murdering "suspicious" people is its own reqrd ( and others').

Those bashing Fox, answer me this. Did Fox edit the interview to totally change the meaning of what Zimmerman said like NBC did?

The case will go in favor of Zimmerman because the prosecutors overcharged the case. The charges are too difficult to prove against Zimmerman unless they get an OJ Simpson type jury.

Zimm says he got punched in the nose, Then Trayvon asks him what is your problem? (So Trayvon recognizes Zimm is following him, or said something to him causing Trayvon to react to Zimm to ask Zimm What is your problem), Zimm answers I have no problem. ( he clearly did he just called police and followed Trayvon).“I don’t remember if I went immediately to the ground, or if he pushed me,” Zimmerman continued.( OK...every guy I have knocked on their ass knows exactly when they went down. Any guy in a fight remembers first everything, if Zimm was punched in the nose he would not be talking with Trayvon as he said he was...the fight would be on!!!!!!!!!) Clearly Zimm is lying. This is a different version from what Zimm said at re enacting........Family of Zimm you are reading these posts....ZIMM IS A CANDY ASS LYING PUNK! Guilty of murder.

Remember...Trayvon was talking on the phone to his girlfriend when Zimmster interupted the call. Zimm Guilty liar.

I truly believe that most of us would like to think this was all a tragic mishap. Like an automobile accident on the Interstate where a blown front tire was the cause of a head-on collision that took the life of an innocent 17 yr. old young man.

That is not the case. This very vague "Stand your Ground" law served no practical purpose except a political ploy to please conservative NRA members and a number of gun owning militants. We have had effective self-defense laws on the books for over 150 years. There is always room for modest and modern improvement for any law. Many of us knew that this over-reaching law would allow unstable gun nuts to practice murder under the guise of self-defense.

I grieve for the family that lost their young son to a long-time wanna-be cop. I also grieve for the family of a seriously disturbed young man that mistakenly believed this law gave him immunity for murdering another under the pretense of self-defense. His family must have have known that he was on a very short fuse for most of his life. They must live with their failure of intervening earlier to prevent such a tragedy in the making. I fully understand that I would not be as generous to the Zimmerman family if it had been my son that was murdered.

The true murderers of young Martin (and many others like him) are not unstable people like Zimmerman. They are the political Pacs and legislators that deliberately pass such careless laws merely to gain political favor. Zimmerman belongs in a padded cell. The fools that placed his finger on the trigger through careless legislation are the real monsters.

Fox never has to edit anything; they just blantantly lie and distort the truth. Nobody on their cable station has any integrity. They are and always have been pundits for the right wing nuts.

Secondly, Zimmerman is a sociopath and a murderer. Sorry he is just up for 2nd degree murder instead of being hung from the nearest tree; that would give him the same chance he gave this young man. Don't forget Zimmerman had a gun in his hand and threatened Trayvon with it. Zimmerman was itching to kill and that is what he did. I have zero sympathy for that low life murderer.

Your rght, Zimmerman is a killer! Any neighborhood watch group tells their people "No weapons allowed" and then the police even told him they would handle things. He was and is a wanna be that got caught in all his lies!!!

This whole business has become politicized beyond belief. We have a man, a child of a family who is dead. We have another man who will never have a normal life again no matter what happens in the trial. Zimmerman interviewing with faux news is just fanning the fire. Although everyone on the left has already demonized him, it's easy for the right to use him as a pawn and buddy up.

You are not allowed to feel for both sides of this situation, you have to pick the side that aligns with your politics. And then shout at the top of your lungs about how wrong the other side is.

Freakin' madness.

I'm not a racist I just decided to do an interview on the news channel that most racists choose to watch.

Zimmerman caught lying while he was re enacting what happened. When he was telling cop his versions, when it came to where was Trayvon when he first saw him, Zimm couldn't remember and got flustered. Then he said he was yelling for help, Zimms words...."Trayvon put his hands over his nose and mouth...uh my nose and mouth."

Zimm was decribing the event from what had happened. Zimm actually had HIS hand over Trayvons mouth and nose trying to get him to stop yelling for help. Zimm panicked.

One of Zimms versions he said "then Trayvon sat up....."

1. If he was sitting on top of Zimm pounding his head down, why did he sit up again from a sitting position? He already was sitting up according to Zimm. Now Zimm has him sitting up....again...but he already was sitting up....?.Zimm lied.

2. So..actually, With Zimm sitting on top of Trayvon, putting his hands over Trayvons mouth and nose trying to shut Trayvon up from screaming for help like we heard his voice on background of phone call, THEN Trayvon sat up fighting Zimm off. That's when Zimm said now you are going to die and shot him.

Trayvon was not a killer, not a fighter making any threats ever to anyone else. Trayvon was screaming for his own life a second before.

Zimm carried the gun, a gun has one purpose...to kill. Zim lied through the whole re enactment.

No matter what Zimmerman says, that screams will sink him, Trayvon could be heard screaming for his life so second degree murder is correct, sure was not Zimmerman screaming his voice is much to low, GUILTY AS CHARGED. But we all know the fix was in so he will probably walk thanks to the incompetent police force.

Watch the police video from the garage/view from front of car to back. After cop puts his own jacket in trunk of car and walks away....Zimm steps backward, leans his back on the wall, puts both feet outward putting pressure on his back. This rubs concrete wall onto his jacket deliberately contaminating evidence. Cop turns see him leaning against wall , says to Zimm come and Zimm with feet forward luges his back off wall scuffing his jacket to look like concrete sidewalk. However wall is painted white, forensics will show paint and not concrete sidewalk. This Zimm movement took about 2 seconds......Deliberate contamination of evidence.

The fox bigots are out tonight.

Fox's website must be empty...the racist mob seems to have drifted over here.

Anyone who believes Zimmerman's desperate, pathetically racist's lies, is just as sick as he is.

He states, "I have no regrets."

Any human being with a modicum of sense and humanity would feel remorse for shooting and killing a 17 year old child. Zimmerman is not only a murderer, he is a child molester. Surely, at some point when he was molesting the female that has come forward, he was above age 18 and she was under age 18. That makes Zimmerman eligible for legal accountable for another criminal act.

Send Zimmerman to Prison!

Zimmermann replaces the judge..his own way...

Zimmerman to 911....hello....I found a suspicious character ......911"what does he look like?,

Zimmerman: he is dressed in black robe, they always get away with it. 911 who are you talking about?

Zimmerman: this guy is a thug, something in his hand, looks like wooden hammer. 911 "Dont follow him"
Zimmerman: ok.......................................................Bang!

What Zimmerman did is some level of murder, but that may be just part of the crime. Why would so many people send so much money to a guy charged with murder? There lies the crime of misunserstanding and bias. I mean, it was a Black guy he killed, there's that. Then there are the gun junkies, many anxious to kill somebody.

I keep guns for self defense but I also hate the NRA with a vengence. They are into the profit in weapon sales so they sell fear to sell their guns and promote laws that create vigilantes.

Zimmerman is going down. He can make all the TV appearances he wants but always there will be the empty spot next to him where the vision of the victim will always be present.

Some say we should not bring race into the equation because Zimmerman may not be a racist, and, in fact, he may not, but there is no doubt in my mind that if Zimmerman were black and Trevon was white, we'd be hearing a different story and damn few donations.

Starsailing... you are even trying to twist what was actually said in fox's interview. GZ said that Martin asked him what is your problem before he got punched. Although I believe some of what GZ said was kind of overexaggerated, I believe it went down as he says. I would have to hear evidence to the contrary to change my mind. If there isn't any further evidence, the charges should be dismissed, which I think might happen in the stand your ground hearing.

IF Martin went hands-on with Zimmerman first, had him on the ground bashing his head on the pavement and was trying to grab his gun, Zimmerman was justified in shooting him. Doesn't matter that Zimmerman was watching him beforehand. I've seen no accounts of there being any conversation before the assault. That's the law. God forbid, should I ever be in that situation, I would do the same thing.

Some of you folks need a reality check. There are bad people among us. They rob, they steal, and they assault and murder. Someone attempting to kill you is a bad person. Observing, watching, or being suspicious of that person, is not grounds for someone to attack you. Lots of people have been robbed, maimed and killed, waiting for the police to show up. A person who believes that someone other than themselves is responsible for their protection, is a fool.

A gun has the purpose of me using it on some a$$ who is trying to do me or mine harm. If they do not have guns then it will be knives. At least the gun gives me some stand off protection brfore the can assault me. See I m older and can't run from thugs and punks, so f w me and expect toi get your weiught raised.

It is simple I will mind my business all of you mind yours, where is the problem in that.. Some idiots like Martin were not raised that way that is why they are constantly killing one another, no respect none..

Until this country starts rasing children again instead of TV and Radio the problem will grow....

Jogn...nothing twisted...Zimm has given numerous different stories and the fox interview was another...he keeps changing stories...toooooo funny, he is not believeable in any form except I do believe him wheb he says he wouldn't change a thing...he is nuts! Watch re enacting...whole diff story with lies. My second post on his lies was from re enacting video......try watching that one...try watching police video...also

Boy these idiots on here prosecuting Zimmerman sure are in their own little world.

God's plan to stalk someone?

A reality check. How do you know if the Zman is lying, it's easy, his lips move!! One person is dead Tray Martin. Trayvon can't speck for himself. So all we have is the Zman's story or stories as he changes it whenever he can. I'm starting to believe that as soon as he got close to Trayvon he just poped him, maybe Tray got in one good punch, I hope so. As a white person, I believe the Zman is a racist, none of this would have happened if Trayvon had been white, even wearing a black hoodie. I hope Trayvon will be able to rest in peace and the Zman will spend the best part of the next two decades in jail.

notacommie-1732574, Here's your reality check. You are a young man doing nothing wrong. A man with a gun is obviously stalking you. You fear for your life and the life of your younger brother if you should lead him home. The man seems to falter for just a moment. You take your chances by confronting him in hopes that others may hear your cries and come to your rescue. The man shoots you dead. Dear God, this can't be happening. I'm only seventeen.

Pippo Schillaci

Why would so many people send so much money to a guy charged with murder?

Because they are powerless "little people."

The folks sending money to Zimmerman, the thug, want to resurrect the past. They want to return to a time in the past when without accountability Caucasians and others could freely murder African Americans. Pathetically, then they will feel empowered. In their haste to maim, they forget that there is no statute of legal limitations for murder.

Remember Emmett Till?

but always there will be the empty spot next to him where the vision of the victim will always be present.

Zimmerman is a psychopath.

He feels nothing for other people. He lacks a conscience.

One of Zimmerman's biggest dilema is his contradictions and his failure to tell the truth. He lied to the court about his funds and got caught. Not smart to do to a Judge. He failed to listen to the dispatcher that fatal night and the consequences were dire. Zimmerman is responsible for the course of events that night by the actions he chose to take. And deserves to be held accountable for those actions.

His arrogance of saying he has no regrets for anything, shows his self absorbed and self entitled attitude.

It's apparently clear, he simply isn't too bright or ethical. And he is a weasel to use God as his justification. He's a coward who thought he was a big man because he had a gun.

Sincerest respect for all here and deepest sympathies for all involved or affected by this tragedy.

I am curious, why is it that everyone who disagrees with the folks who think Zimmerman is guilty are racist? You don't suppose we could come to our own conclusions without race becoming our bias? I am not saying that I don't think Zimmerman has been completely truthful throughout this whole circus, but why is it so hard to believe that he might just not be a racist and that things just might have occurred somewhat the way he claimed they did?

Also, why must we be so nasty with our venom tainted comments? Not necessarily directing this statement to the comment this relpy is to. By all means have a discussion yes, but at least have some modicum of respect please.

I just watched the 3-part videos on the Fox website. That was not an interview that was a well rehearsed play.

It is absolutely obvious that Hannity's questions were known to Mr. Zimmerman and his attorney in advance. Mr. Zimmerman at several points stops, and restates his answers in a rehearsed manner using rehearsed phrases to make his answers more sympathetic.

Hannity asked each and every question in a sympathetic and leading manner, and he clearly knew in advance what the answers would be.

What a pathetic spectacle, even for a "news" organization such as Fox.

To what purpose does a cable network decide to put its last shreds of corporate reputation on the line in an attempt to foster sympathy in advance of trial for a man presently accused of second degree murder? this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why did they do this?

So Mr. Martin was "skipping" around the neighborhood and Mr. Zimmerman would still be in the same situation if he didn't have a gun because it was"God's will".

It all makes sense.

Very well played...by Zimmerman's attorney. Of course they can make any story of events they want because there is no one to dispute it. You can hear Zimmerman stop and correct himself in the interview. An example when he says that he was on his way to Target to do his weekly shopping he then stopped and restarted and said when they finish mentoring the kids, (score one brownie point) they go shopping. Then of course mentioning God scores easy points from the religious right. This was nothing more than damage control. A well rehearsed tactic to try to change public opinion, after Zimmerman and his wife had lied about his funds, and his passport. And the easiest way to do it would be through the Fox News crowd.

the lib raci sts will never be happy they are the most ra cist. If a meteor hit a bla ck man it was only because he is bla ck and the meteor was rac ist

I think a lot of people are looking at the fact that Zimmerman knew he wasn't to pursue a suspect. It is clearly posted in the neighborhood watch manual and stand down were the directives given to him by the 911 operator and acknowledged by Zimmerman when he said ok. But yet he didn't return to his vehicle. What was motivating him to disregard, and go against the rules and engage anyways?

These rules and directives that Zimmerman disregarded are put in place so situations that Zimmerman now finds himself in can be avoided. Zimmerman wants to go on Fox News and try to paint himself as a Golden Rule following Sunday School type of guy. Then why didn't he just stay put as he was told? His story and the image he is trying to create are inconsistent with the actions he has taken.

He is certainly a murderer.

He probably is a racist.

And he is a liar.

Remy1b:

You are absolutely correct. This Hannity interview was contrived, and frankly Zimmerman's responses seemed very scripted. There were many opportunities to challenge his responses which Hannity clearly did not.

For example, Zimmerman said that when Trayvon approached him and asked him if he had a problem, he(Zimmerman) responded that he did not have a problem while simultaneously reaching into his pocket for a cellphone. This is allegedly when Trayvon hit him in the nose and broke it. Well, could it have been that Trayvon saw his move as threatening in that he had no idea what was in Zimmerman's pocket. Or, could it have been that Zimmerman was really reaching for his gun? Or could it have been that in reaching for his cellphone his gun was revealed?

The other question that I have is how Zimmerman was able to get to his gun and get enough space to shoot Trayvon. Remember, Zimmerman claims that he was being beaten within an inch of his life and in fear of losing consciousness. So, that would indicate that he was being totally subdued with Trayvon straddling him(Zimmerman's words). How did Zimmerman get to his gun?

As to those who are comparing Al Sharpton's role in this to Hannity's, they are wrong. Al Sharpton and Trayvon's family simply wanted a trial. Al Sharpton has never said that Zimmerman was guilty. He said that there wer enough questions to merit a trial. Had Zimmerman been charged with something originally and a trial held, we would not be talking aobut this case now.

Finally, Zimmerman's assertion that he was unaware of the "stand your ground" law strains credibility. Here is a gun nut, wannabe cop who is in a neighborhood watch program and he is not up on the current law. Please.

"I'm sorry I didn't have a machine gun!"

Well, I say ban all imported hoodies from China!!!

Hannity had him on the phone before he even had a lawyer - jesus, he must have been drooling over the bonus the NRA would slip him under the table for this one.

I am not so sure the NRA wants their name attached to George Zimmerman at this point.

Too bad the prosecutor could not have cross examined George Zimmerman after (or during) Sean Hannity's interview.

and you were there...right ? please, save it for the jury.

Jb, No, that fact is that this never would have happened if George Zimmerman had done as he was instructed by the dispatcher, not to mention following the rules for Neighborhood Watch where you NEVER confront a suspect. He's an idiot, and now someone is dead because of his stupidity.

He deserves to be punished, not for life, but something that will stick with him for life, so he can never carry a weapon again.

of what? Self defense?

How do you know he is guilty?? Where you there?? Unless you were there keep your pathetic comments to yourself.

DB, I believe he has been punished enough. He has already done more jail time than CONVICTED murderers!!!

When will Zimmerman be asked about the money he & his wife spent from the defence fund. 37k on cell phones, computers, car notes, car rentals, wi-fi & other personal items.....Money given to pay for his defence .The story is in the Miami Herald. He Lie's ...He's a thief a child molester & a murderer. Now he want's to bring "GOD" into this....."Z" Man.....God don't like "UGLY"!!!!

Zimmerman is so full of it, he thinks he's a super hero. What I hope he becomes is a CONVICT!

Finally he has his script down. Of course in Florida you have a right to kill instead of retreating when your life is threatened so "I'm going to kill you___" has to be included. Let's see how it plays out in court or if he will change it again before he goes to court.

My money is on him pleading guilty to a lesser offense, serving 5 years and going home. He doesn't look like a hard core gambler and must know he started the chain of events.

The fact that Mr. Z went to Fox clarified everything: A. He has the I.Q. of an eggplant & B. he has innocent blood on his hands and I am very grateful to Fox News....... (they give John Stewart such great material)

“I feel it was all God’s plan,” he said. (Zimmerman)

The god I worship, would NEVER make a horrible plan like this.

I hope that the trial is soon! I am sooooooo sick of this low-life scumbag, piece of trash! He is like the thief who is not sorry he stole, but sorry he got caught!

Zimmerman, you are as guilty as Cain and I hope that you will be found guilty as charged!

Why don't you do an interview with Rachel Maddow, or Lawrence O'Donnell? You interviewed with another scumbag such as yourself, looking for sympathy!

You will never live this down, and you will have more time in "Solitary confinement" to reflect on all of the evil, racists, hateful deeds that you have done.

Someone on another post wrote about the snake Willard Romney, they describled him as a roach that has just been sprayed with insecticide and is now fledging around on the kitchen floor on his back, that is you George Zimmerman! I hope that you rot in prision!!!!!

Rot in prision!!!!!!!

I will agree that Z probably could have done things differently that night, But, once T hit/assaulted Z, all bet are off. Z has a right, as well as the rest of us do, to shoot, and if necessary, kill anyone, who was hitting or assaulting us. As for the trial, I think there will be at least two, both ending in a hung jury. In the end he pleads to some dumb charge, get probation, and lose his right to carry. No way anyone gonna find 12-16 random people who will all come down on the same side on this unless the jury is a mob from either side so, sit back, get some pop corn, its gonna be a long couple years before this one goes away.

Jb-1986842

You can say what you want but the fact is Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself.

Jb,

Did Trayvon confirm that he attacked Zimmerman?

Trayvon is deceased and can't tell his side of the story. The story Zimmerman told seemed very fabricated! He mentioned God's plan, and God's plan is justice for Trayvon. God is revealing everything, and Trayvon's innocent blood is speaking. That is why this case is being brought to light on a world wide scale. That boy was murdered in cold blood, and if Zimmerman go's free in the natural, he won't with God. It's better for him to confess in the natural instead of keep lieing and risk eternal judgement from God. I think him going to jail for years would be better than hell anyday. It's not about race, it's about an innocent child's life was taken. He was sterotyped and murdered. If people agree that is okay, to murder innocent children, then you need to question your heart and get right with Jesus. Something is not right with that picture.

Whatever the court decides--I'm disgusted with him saying that it was God's plan. That's a completely insensitive thing to say. It couldn't be anything but insulting to the boy's family! It's also rediculous for Zimmerman to say that he knows God's plans, really? It's a familiar story, man goes to prison and get's religion for his excuse. It seems to me that the boy could have felt threatened by a paranoid guy with a gun and was defending himself. I agree that Zimmerman should never have been there. The fact remains that he is responsible for killing an unarmed boy, whether he was defending himself or not, he should answer for that.

You can say what you want but the fact is Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself. Case closed.

This is not a fact. It is a claim from Zimmerman. Don't take a statement as a fact, there is a difference. Especially in this case as Zimmerman has too much at stake for him not to get his story aligned with Florida law.

“I feel it was all God’s plan,” he said. (Zimmerman)

The god I worship, would NEVER make a horrible plan like this (quoted from above)

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how can you claim to believe in God, yet judge God's plan as if you have any place to do so, as if you have any capability of comprehending such a thing. how monumentally arrogant of you. everything is God's plan, whether you like it or not.

This is not a fact. It is a claim from Zimmerman. Don't take a statement as a fact, there is a difference. Especially in this case as Zimmerman has too much at stake for him not to get his story aligned with Florida law. (quoted from above)

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the same thing can be said for both sides of the story, you know. that is a terrible debate tactic, to use generalized rhetorical statements that could easily be applied to both sides of the debate.

the fact is that statements are all they have to go by. there was no video, no witnesses with authority (like police officers, etc). all we have are the statements of zimmerman (which have been consistent as near as i can tell), and the statements of witnesses (which have changed at least once). there is also physical evidence of the injuries that Zimmerman sustained that are consistent with his story. of course that is not to say he could not have injured himself in such a way in order to corroborate his story. i am just saying those are the facts as we know them, and that the justice system, while sometimes getting it wrong, has more than a 99% chance of doing proper justice. oh, the last fact i have for you.....no matter what verdict is returned on this case, millions of people will feel it to be wrong despite any evidence or any other factor.

the same thing can be said for both sides of the story, you know. that is a terrible debate tactic, to use generalized rhetorical statements that could easily be applied to both sides of the debate (quoted from above)

It can't be said for both sides of the story. Trayvon is deceased and cant' tell his side of the story. Everything Zimmerman is saying are "statements", that can not be proven as "facts". The deceased can't defend himself nor tell his side of the story. With the track record Zimmerman has of stealing, lying, molesting women, and now murder, NO ONE should take his statements as facts!

The obvious question to GZ is, "What were you doing with your hands while this kid was supposedly banging your head into the cement?" "Did you not strike back?" I guess not, because there would be bruises, scratches and other evidence on your hands. It is instinctive to strike back. A grown man would not have just laid there and yelled for help.

drrmg,

In case you didn't hear the end of the story, Zimmerman did strike back. He used his gun tho.

Jb, No, that fact is that this never would have happened if George Zimmerman had done as he was instructed by the dispatcher, not to mention following the rules for Neighborhood Watch where you NEVER confront a suspect. He's an idiot, and now someone is dead because of his stupidity.

He should have taken the dispatcher's advice, for sure.

Really, I missed that .. can you link me please :)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-16/zimmerman-abuse-prosecutor-trayvon/56253714/1

Okay what I want to know from all these people that watched the interview (I didnt) and listened to his lawyer and listened to Zimmerman's version all these months - why do we just out and out believe him - believe his version of things. Zimmerman hasnt given factual accounts of what happened cause there are none except for a cut on the back of his head - but the strange thing there is that it is said that Trayvon was bashing his head on the concrete when Trayvon was found on the grass!!! Anyone care to explain that. The cops said he gave 5 different versions of how it happened and he has proven himself to be a liar over and over by trying to hide money and passports and he lied to a judge no less!! Any idiot knows one doesnt do that. His wife lied too. So please tell me why I should out and out believe this guy and say - *yep he is not guilty - yep listened to the interview and there is no way he did it etc. etc.* That is only one side of the story. He made darn sure the other side of the story never got told didnt he. That story is 6 feet under and has been quietened by a gun. I dont know what happened - I wasnt there - so I cant come on here and stipulate what the outcome should be one way or the other cause I need to hear from Trayvon and that will never happen. But to ask me to believe everything Zimmerman says - sorry cant do that with all the lies and deception he has displayed. In my mind I believe the whole thing could have been avoided if Zimmerman would have just carried on to get his groceries and left well enough alone - but he didnt and hence a young 17 year old boy is dead and we will never know the true story. And Zimmerman says he has no regrets so to shoot and kill a 17 year old boy and have no regrets about doing it says an awful lot about his character. How can you not regret doing that. As they say he is just sorry he got caught. And my other impression and only my impression is that it is the defence that is worried because they are going to great lengths to rehabiliate his character to the public because *his character isnt looking too good right now*. Casey Anthony never had an interview before her trial - this is very uncommon for a lawyer to advise his client to do. So it is not a slam dunk case and his lawyer knows it and is trying his best to make sure he is acquitted as any defense lawyer should do. So even during the trial of facts and witnesses I dont feel we will get the answer there also. Again they are trying to bash the victim and call him a thug. Go and look at pictures of him taken 9 days before his death - he is far from a thug. And of course blaming the victim who paid the ultimate price for this case is pretty low in my eyes on the part of the defence. He doesnt have a criminal record - he was a normal 17 year old kid doing what 17 year old kids do and even if he did smoke pot or do other things does that mean he deserved to die over this situation. I do think Zimmerman will walk - do I think he should - I dont know. Havent heard all the facts yet and if the facts presented make me believe that he is not guilty then I will accept that - but so far it is just theories and inuendos just like I am doing and that doesnt prove anything.

Fox newser......actually the way it works is presume the guy is innocent until all evidence is examined in a court of law. Then and only then can an objective evaluation be made by a jury who sees all evidence (including sworn testimony and cross examination of 'facts' and 'events') as to proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt or not.

Thankfully our criminal justice system doesn't call for random people just reading or watching news and reading whats available while making their own uninformed interpretations of such evidence and then those random people claiming innocent or guilt. Instead the court system, while imperfect, requires that any and all evidence, reports, testimony, written documents, physical evidence, forensics, autopsy reports and findings, etc. are subject to cross examination and testimony from both sides. That way the jurors get the whole picture, with both sides having every opportunity to present their versions of the events and their versions of what the evidence shows.

That's my problem with Omara doing this Hannity interview of Zimmerman today. Omara knows he wants to claim self defense in a stand your ground hearing and attempt to therefore not have to go to trial. But he doesn't want Zimmerman to testify under oath in court where he can be cross examined and questioned about aspects of his version that don't match up with aspects of the autopsy findings, the physical evidence and the police investigation. So it seems like this Hannity interview was an attempt to get this interview entered in court instead of Zimmerman testifying.

I don't know if he's guilty or not of the murder he's charged with. I do think though it is rather telling that in the bail hearing Omara asked the judge to let Zimmerman testify without being cross examined, which of course is not allowed. And when the judge said no Omara decided not to have Zimmerman testify. But he wants Zimmerman's version to be out there without risking him having to answer the real questions. Enter Hannity. Interview done, sealed and delivered.

And not a single question was asked by Hannity about why Zimmerman's version is so inconsistent with the autopsy findings and physical evidence. Strange interview indeed.

fox newser.....do search on.........fox news dumber....and see studies that proved people are dumber for watching fox news..........that's....fox news dumber.........You may want to change your moniker.

Is that your best response to someone presenting logic on the topic?

And the logic is.....where?....It is fox news..people are dumber for watching fox news.....

starsailing, thanks a lot. I just got dumber reading your ignorant post.

And the logic is.....where?....It is fox news..people are dumber for watching fox news.....

Say it with me, moron...."ad hominem". It"s an informal logical fallacy...and you just commited it.

AS Jefferson said, you are infinitely more informed if you never watch any news (he said it about newspapers, the only media of his day)...including the BS propaganda on MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc. I watch none of them regularly, and I'd love to take an IQ test opposite you, dimwit.

Say F-Newser, Doesn't it give you pause that the Zman has lied to the judge, twice, his wife lied and got arrested for perjury. They had worked out a code for talking on the phone before hand, so they could deceive the court. It wasn't even critical. Now he's on TV giving his story, and we're suppose to just believe him, talking about being brain dead. Well, on the bright side, if he does walk he can a job selling used cars, because once you can fake sincerity you have it made.

StarSailing,

See you still have your head in the 'Stars' not learning anything!

What 'REAL STUDIES' are you speaking of... Ones done by 'THE FAROUT LEFT WING NUTS', that are purely personal... The Right Wing isn't always 'right', but in the last 4 years I have to jump in with the 'RIGHTIES'... Like he said do your research and study, There are more news stations out there besides CNN...

Bethy, did you read the full article?

Zimmerman was ONLY 8 when the girl was 6.

allegedly molested?? hmmm....

I think that it is criminal in this country that we allow ALLEGATIONS to be made public before proven, that is completely unfair. I had a friend in college that was arrested for a serious crime, it immediately hit the local news, "alleged perpetrator "John Doe" arrested at his apartment this afternoon", showing his picture ON THE NEWS. Funny, the cops had actually been at the wrong address, my friend was maligned and shown to be a perp yet DID NOTHING. He was in class at the time of the alleged serious incident. Do you think the damn news stations put out they were TOTALLY WRONG? Hell no. We convict people in this country based on total bull, just as we have PROSECUTED this Zimmerman person, just like he's guilty of molestation that possibly NEVER HAPPENED. We have no idea what happened that night, not really, but everyone has already made up their mind based on the media's tainting the picture with salacious details designed to ignite the ignorant masses. And I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Only after a CONVICTION should the ALLEGATIONS have been proven should a citizen be persecuted by this pathetic 24 hour sensationalistic media, who live to ruin peoples lives. Front page on the arrest, last page in the tiny corner, if at all, when they make a complete mistake, and that is wrong!

I don't think your comments are helping the issue, in actual fact you are justifying what the other side are saying about this incident.

Savannah's quote "A predictor of future behavior is past behavior!

Zimmerman is a racist, lying, fat, dumb, pig!

I hope that he rot in prision!

Therefore since you stand as judge and jury before the facts are heard in court that you are indeed above us all and that YOU are the decider of fate for us all. Of holy one, how arrogant of you. The Judge and Executioner all rolled into one. Or are you in fact, a racist, lying, fat, dumb, pig of a female? Another raging arrogant hypocrite who thinks she knows it all, before "all" has even been seen by anyone. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

And did you catch this line: "The 28-year-old son of a white father and Peruvian mother of Hispanic descent, Zimmerman." Pretty awkward isn't it? But you see the important thing to MSNBC was first to get "white" in there so as to suggest Zimmerman is white (instead of Hispanic). Secondly, they want to down play the Hispanic part so Zimmerman isn't exactly Hispanic....he's Peruvian.
The sentence should read simply, "Zimmerman is Hispanic."
Lets apply the MSNBC approach to Obama. I guess it would read "The 51 year old son of a white mother and Kenyan father of African descent" or something of that type.
MSNBC keeps reaching for a new bottom in journalism. And they keep finding it.

He murdered a young man who did nothing to him - nothing. And there is proof. Trayvon had a minor laceration on his ring finger - nothing more. Both the coroner and the funeral director said he would have had much more damage to his hands if the situation was as Zimmerman described.

Zimmerman is not only a murderer, he's a stupid murderer. His story has changed more times than he changes his underwear. There will always be people who want to believe the black boy was at fault. That's just not the case here. Zimmerman is nothing but a common murderer.

Maybe it's god's will for Bubba to watch Zimmerman walk by real slow at night in prison. Just saying.......

Zimmerman is not a racist or a murderer unless it is proven in an unbiased court based on clear and convincing evidence. All of the comments for and against don't mean a thing, with the exception of creating an environment that works against the ability to have a fair trial. What kind of justice is there, when the media covers the case with such blatant bias and coniving and when the issue of race is created and promoted exclusive of fact? It has all been spin and purposeful deception by a wide range of people who can't separate their personal agendas from a committment to seeking truth.

alim - the blatant lies and bias are in favor of Zimmerman. Had he acted responsibly, none of this would have happened. He wanted so badly to use his gun he couldn't think straight.

Had the police done their job that night, this case would never have gotten the attention it has. Had his father's influence not kept him from being arrested, we would probably never even have known about this.

This was a miscarriage of justice when Zimmerman decided he could take a life for no reason. I hope he never knows a minute of peace for the rest of his miserable life.

"What kind of justice is there, when the media covers the case with such blatant bias and coniving and when the issue of race is created and promoted exclusive of fact? It has all been spin and purposeful deception by a wide range of people who can't separate their personal agendas from a committment to seeking truth."

Bravo, alim!
Well said. Very well said.

JCB - no, this would be the coroner and funeral director who are testifying in the case. Already on the witness list.

You clearly have issues which I will not address as evidenced by your fiery post. They are yours - not mine.

Trayvon Martin did nothing to this pitiful excuse for a man and it will be proved. But, you won't like that either because your hatred for the black boy is evident. You choose to believe everyone of a particular look is bad. How sad for you.

Oh, and you won't be on the jury either - thank God!

Mark Taft said:

And did you catch this line: "The 28-year-old son of a white father and Peruvian mother of Hispanic descent, Zimmerman." Pretty awkward isn't it? But you see the important thing to MSNBC was first to get "white" in there so as to suggest Zimmerman is white (instead of Hispanic). Secondly, they want to down play the Hispanic part so Zimmerman isn't exactly Hispanic....he's Peruvian.
The sentence should read simply, "Zimmerman is Hispanic."

Except for the fact that on the original police report he identified himself as Zimmerman, George Michael, white male, DOB 10/3/1985, 5'09", no weight given, no driver's license.

He identifies himself as a white male so lets give him the respect of calling him what he wants to be called.

Shar (post 7.3)

why do we just out and out believe him

Well, how about 1) eyewitness statements that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him or 2) physical evidence on the scene of Zimmerman’s injuries, blood on the sidewalk, etc.

but the strange thing there is that it is said that Trayvon was bashing his head on the concrete when Trayvon was found on the grass!!!

Martin was straddling Zimmerman, who was laying on a four foot wide sidewalk, having his head pounded into the cement by a 17 year old who was had evidence of marijuana in his blood. The gun shot caused Martin to fall over, into the grass.

For those of you who say Marin was "a child" and how could Zimmerman be afraid of being beaten by a child, perhaps you should read about what just happened in Chicago. A 16 year old just beat a 62 year old man to death in Chicago during a robbery, perhaps as part of a hate crime. “[Jones] sucker punched him in the jaw... [Mora] fell and split his head open on the concrete.” The vermin even video recorded the beat down. If that 62 year old had a gun, then perhaps the Travyon Martin-like thug would be dead, instead of the Mora, just like Martin is dead instead of Zimmerman.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-chicago-teens-beat-62-year-old-man-death-collected-cans-post-video-attack-facebook-cops-article-1.1115396

Zimmerman has been railroaded by the Democratic establishment, including Barrack Obama, and the main stream media, that continues to display a photo of angelic looking 12 year old Martin to make him look like a sweet, innocent, helpless victim instead of the thug he was. Yes, he was a thug. Why don’t you ask why didn’t MSNBC publish

1) Martin’s arrest record,

2) Martin’s School Discipline Records,

3) Martin’s Twitter Tweets, 4) Current photos of a 17 year old Martin,

5) Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz saying the filing of 2nd Degree Murder charges is prosecutorial malfeasance.

SeekingSanity (post 7.26),

Trayvon Martin did nothing to this pitiful excuse for a man and it will be proved.

Well, Trayvon punched him in the face. That's been proved so....

George Zimmerman Reenacts Shooting of Treyvon Martin for Police at Crime Scene -Part 1

George Zimmerman Reenacts Shooting of Treyvon Martin for Police at Crime Scene (Part 2)

John & Scubasteve - no, it hasn't been proved that Trayvon punched him. In fact, the evidence is proving he didn't hit him - again, no bruising or tears on his hands. Hard to do if you're beating a man.

Witnesses give two different versions of what happened and two have changed their stories putting Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin. Were there injuries to Zimmerman - it appears there were but no evidence Trayvon made those injuries. For all we know, Zimmerman fell and broke his nose - certainly wasn't done by a young man with no bruises on his hands.

And, although Martin has a trace of marijuana in his system - Zimmerman had three drugs in his. Any of those drugs should have kept him from getting a gun license.

John your entire hypothesis is just that - a hypothesis. None of what you stated is facts and most will be disproved during trial.

Zimmerman is a murderer - plain and simple. I just hope he doesn't get away with it.

sorry for double post.

A couple of nights ago I was pursued, stalked and profiled by the president of our home owners association. My wife and I were in our private neighborhood park with our daughter. I saw the home owner's association president see us from her home. She then pursed, stalked and confronted us by comming to the park to see who we were and see if we lived there. We are fairly new to the neighborhood so she did not recognize us and found us suspicious. I guess using you guy's logic, I would have been within my rights to puch her, knock her to the ground and pound on her because she instigated a confrontation and rather than just let her know that we lived in the neighborhood, I should have attacked her.

Also, I am sure it was all racist on her part because my wife happens to be Asian and she is white.

Actually seeking sanity, the autopsy show two injuries to Martin. One a gun shot wound, and the other a cut on his hand consistant with punching someone. If Martin did not hi Zimmerman, what wild story do you create to account for his broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head?

SeekingSanity,

You are either uninformed, or purposefully lying.

"In fact, the evidence is proving he didn't hit him - again, no bruising or tears on his hands"

The publicly available autopsy report said that Trayvon had two injuries on his body. The fatal gunshot would, and a 1/2 inch cut on his left knuckle.

"... and two have changed their stories putting Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin"

The witness in question, never changed his story about who was on top. He changed it to say he couldn't be sure who was yelling and just assumed it was Zimmerman because it wouldn't make sense that the person on top was yelling for help.

I'll agree with you that the Marijuana residue in Trayvon's system isn't a big deal as it was below the threshold of intoxication. And, even if he was high as a kite, it would have very little impact on the case.

Bruising occurs when capillaries and blood vessels leak blood into the body tissues which then discolor. As a result of Trayvon Martin being shot to death (and apparently bleeding out), I am not sure how much "bruising" would then occur in that person being dead.

Of course there are existing photographs of Zimmerman's back of head showing the blood. There is also medical confirmation by a doctor of a broken nose, puffy face and black eyes. Then, there is also the witness who saw Trayvon Martin on top of Zimmerman.

Denial of reality for political purposes will go down in flames when the physical evidence and testimony of police officers will show the truth.

I have an idea. Let's all pretend that we really do have a life.

Scubasteve - I don't know where you find your "facts" but none of them are true. The small laceration on his ring finger is less than 1/2 inch and nothing close to what one would find had he been in a fight.

Two witnesses said they were told by police that Martin had to be on top even though that is not what was reported. They have changed their testimony.

I have no idea where you're getting your lies and I really don't care. The truth will come out - including Zimmerman's drug usage that night. Zimmerman is nothing less than a murderer.

jim- the bruising would still have been there according to the coroner. My guess is he knows better than all the posters on this site.

seeing there were no witness to this i dont know how any one can blame either party. they were both at fault. had the events been the other way would we be seeing as much hoopla. at any time one of them could have backed off.

I'm getting my facts from the autopsy report and the witness statements. Where are you getting your facts?

I went and found you the link: http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/17/11748468-court-docs-trayvon-martin-shooting-ultimately-avoidable-by-zimmerman?lite

SeekingSanity's quote "your hatred for the black boy is evident. You choose to believe everyone of a particular look is bad"

What?? Get some help you need it. I don't know Trayvon nor Zimmerman, and I don't hate either one. How do you hate someone you don't even know? Hate is something way to heavy for me to carry around, so I don't, not ever. But you on the other hand, seem to have seriously divine hatred for Zimmerman. Bet your one of those "Christians" on Sunday also. Stop thinking you know other people feelings Sanity, or their motivations. If Zimmerman killed this kid for no reason, which looks unlikely, then he should go to prison, BUT if he didn't then people like you need to leave your hatred behind.

Only problem I had with his story is that he changed it from the first police statment. The second is when he said he didnt regret what he did, he felt god made him have to do what he did that night. So if god says he has to go to jail for 40 years he shouldnt feel sad about it. Since he isn't sad about what he did and would still do it again if he had a chance.

You call a 17 year old male "boy" and you will probably get your nose broken

Amanda, "Except for the fact that on the original police report he identified himself as Zimmerman, George Michael, white male, DOB 10/3/1985, 5'09", no weight given, no driver's license."

But Amanda, didn't you say George lies a lot (to the judge for example)? Instead of what he said, why don't you just use your own two eyes. If you do you will see he is Hispanic in spite of having a white parent. This is just like Obama being black in spite of one white parent. Just use your eyes.
By the way, my Hispanic friends are livid over the fact the media is going after Zimmerman with so much slanted coverage. If there are any Hispanics on the jury, Z-man will walk free.

You call a 17 year old male "boy" and you will probably get a knife between your ribs.

"Acting Suspicious" is just a bullcrap way of saying "He was black, I was white, that makes me right". He murdered a child in cold blood; there is never an excuse for that. The Florida cops screwed up and compromised the case against Zimmerman ("Stand your Ground" is a defence for court, not an excuse to keep from being arrested).

Zimmerman's interview smells like old fish, and is about as safe to take as valuable. He's a racist, he plugged a porch-monkey-boy, and he doesn't think he should be found guilty for what he decided was a disease on the community (based only on Trayven's appearance). He's a dangerous nut and needs to be locked away with lots of gentlemen who will show him their opinion of people who murder children. If he survives, then maybe next time, he'll know better than to stalk someone when the 911 operators tell him not to.

" He murdered a child in cold blood" LOL. The child. The child. With teddy bear in hand.
Too funny.

when people are bi-racial and one of the parents is white-the other color dominates- black and white- asian and white- so on and so forth- spanish is a ethnitcity not a skin color- look at Brazil- people black as tar- they speak spanish- they are spanish, they just happen to have black skin. look at the cubans? The media is trying it's best to push the white card on this one. the people won't allow this to slide.

why do we just out and out believe him - believe his version of things. Zimmerman hasnt given factual accounts of what happened cause there are none except for a cut on the back of his head - but the strange thing there is that it is said that Trayvon was bashing his head on the concrete when Trayvon was found on the grass!!! Anyone care to explain that. The cops said he gave 5 different versions of how it happened and he has proven himself to be a liar over and over by trying to hide money and passports and he lied to a judge no less!! Any idiot knows one doesnt do that. His wife lied too. So please tell me why I should out and out believe this guy and say - *yep he is not guilty

I don't understand why people still believe him unless they are used to believing liars.

Doesn't it give you pause that the Zman has lied to the judge, twice, his wife lied and got arrested for perjury. They had worked out a code for talking on the phone before hand, so they could deceive the court. It wasn't even critical. Now he's on TV giving his story, and we're suppose to just believe him?

Another good post.

Yo, if he didn't exist you wouldn't have a life.
You should bow down to Zimmerman for giving your life some meaning.

Let's say Martin burglarized 6 homes last week, did Zimmerman know this? No, he didn't. Zimmerman had no basis for following Martin, he gave loose terms, like acting suspicious, looks like he is on drugs, etc. Do you think a cop could write a probable cause like that? Hell, no, he couldn't. A cop would have to articulate the suspicious and intoxicated behavior.

Do you know that if you're walking down the street and there is no crime reported, you match no description of any suspect and a cop aproaches you and asks you questions, you are not compelled to stop or answer his question? Is this what a free America is? Anyone who decides YOUR out of place can confront and harass you?

I would have beat Zimmerman's brains in too.

A thug is dead. A nutjob is on trial.
Life goes on.

Barrack Insain O'Palin...(#9.1)..."Do you know that if you're walking down the street and there is no crime reported, you match no description of any suspect and a cop aproaches you and asks you questions, you are not compelled to stop or answer his question?"

Try that approach in NYC where the NYPD does 600,000 "Stop & Frisks" a year...Crime is down. Compare that with Chicago PD...They don't have a clue what to do , but don't want to hurt anyone's feelings....look at the body count there every week.....

Exactly, Chicago is a hell hole.

Barrack Insain O'Palin,

You are correct when you say that Trayvon didn't have to answer any questions Zimmerman (or your hypothetical police officer) posed him.

However, there is a big gap between having the right to not answer any questions and having the right to assault someone.

If I walk up to you on the street, I can say whatever I please. As long as I don't put my hands on you I'm not breaking any law, and you don't have the right to attack me.

Trayvon could have told Zimmerman to take a long walk off a short pier or any number of more colorful statements. But once he punched Zimmerman, Zimmerman had the right to protect himself.

Barrack Insain O'Palin

Using your logic, I should have attacked the president of our home owner's association when she walked across the street to the private park in our neighborhood where my wife, daughter and I were playing. She came over and asked us if we lived in the neighborhood.

Instead of telling her that we lived in the neighborhood, I should have just punched her in the face and then crawled on top of her and pounded the h3ll out of her. After all, she was stalking me, she was pursuing me by walking across the street. If someone approaches me to ask what I am doing somewhere, I have the right to assault them?

On top of that, my wife is Asian, and the home owner's association president is white. So it must have been racially motivated.

Oh, and if she pulled out a gun while I was on top of her, pounding on her and then killed me, she should have been charged with murdering me since she was the agressor by coming across the street.

Jim in Auburn, you must be a product of the poor education system in this country...

you aren't even close.

how is it any different than what happened between zimmerman and martin? Except maybe she moved a little slower and I did not run away before attacking her.

Dont mind Jo-an, She's already made up her mind that zimmerman is guilty of killing a child even when people posted that Trayvon in fact wasnt a child, and isnt classified as one legally(He's a minor). She ignores everything and still says Trayvon is a child.

She's a bigot nothing more, nothing else.

Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, but ultimately its up to the jury. I do love the people that that expect zimmerman to take a beaten and not protect himself(Jo-an is one of them)

@ wiz-3385151 #9.10...

if you simply 'google' you will find many sources that refer to a 17 year old as a 'child'.

irene46...(#9.11)....You're right....Here's a story I found about a 17 yr.old child...I wonder if P.Obama will claim if he had a son , he would look like Shawn Tyson ???

A 17 yr.old black CHILD murdered 2 British tourists in Sarasota, Fl.....in cold blood , pleading for their lives....After the murders, he pulled up their shirts and pulled down their pants to show all the world his handiwork ???

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2012/3/28/closing_arguments_ex.html

Irene,

I'm sure I could find sources online where people are referring to 30 year olds as "child" too but I haven't heard anyone refer to Zimmerman that way.

If you google the legal definition of "child" you will see that Trayvon doesn't qualify.

.Here's a story I found about a 17 yr.old child...I wonder if P.Obama will claim if he had a son , he would look like Shawn Tyson ???

A 17 yr.old black CHILD murdered 2 British tourists in Sarasota, Fl.....in cold blood , pleading for their lives.

mike in delray 9.12

this comment serves no purpose other than giving you an opportunity to make a sleazy and ludicrous political and racist remark.

since 11 year olds have been known to commit murder, in what way does this prove that a 17 year old is not a child?

trayvon is not the murderer, geoz is.

I'm sure I could find sources online where people are referring to 30 year olds as "child" too but I haven't heard anyone refer to Zimmerman that way.

If you google the legal definition of "child" you will see that Trayvon doesn't qualify.

scubsteve 58001 9.13

i have googled the legal definition of 'child' and there are many examples of 17 year olds being categorized as a 'child'. i even saw a definition that described a 17 year old as a "minor child".

you're wrong to insist that a 17 year old is definitively not "legally a child".

Mike In Delray...Try that approach in NYC where the NYPD does 600,000 "Stop & Frisks" a year...Crime is down. Compare that with Chicago PD...They don't have a clue what to do , but don't want to hurt anyone's feelings....look at the body count there every week.....

#9.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

Yeah, thats why the NYPD is rightfully getting ready to get their a$$es sued off for violating citizens rights, with those illegel stops.

Some off you guys would be crying like beeitches if a PD came in to your neighborhood, stopped and frisked you every 10 yards.

Why did MSN run the Al Sharpton comments? Hmmmmmm!

Katherine, I too wonder why FoxNews would do such an interview. I can only guess from what I'm seeing of Hannity's questions and his approach that he is not at all interested in nailing down facts, he is interested in letting Zimmerman tell the message he wants told without regard to facts.

As for an interview with Trayvon's parents, I agree with you for "fair" and "balanced" purposes LOL. But Trayvon's parents aren't witnesses to the facts and events of the shooting death and so although I'd love to see Hannity give them an hour interview with the same tone and kid gloves he's giving Zimmerman, it wouldn't serve the same court/legal purposes.

I honestly see this interview as nothing more than Hannity and Omara finding a way to get Zimmerman's story in the most favorable light for him on videotape to try and get into evidence in court without Zimmerman having to be sworn in under oath or being cross examined. Therefore the facts are irrelevant.

Hannity and Geraldo Rivera have had Crump, the Martin Family Attorney on numerous times....That's fair and balanced....If Trayvon's parents wanted to give interviews they have plenty of Networks that would jump at the chance.....FoxNews is one of them.....

remy and kath....so you feel that only one side should be told? msnbc in particular has told a completely one-sided version of the story....obama even got involved WITHOUT KNOWING A SINGLE FACT! its about time the other side was allowed to speak.

see comment #22 please

No, I think all sides of ALL FACTS should be shown in court through testimony if and when any such interviews or statements will be admitted into COURT as evidence. Testimony means sworn under oath and subject to cross examination, so that FACTUAL AND TRUTH CAN BE DETERMINED.

The last time I remember seeing any tv interviews of a criminal defendant PRIOR to court proceedings was I think the Scott Peterson murder case. Its just not done, unless the lawyer for the defendant wants to find a way to avoid cross examination and avoid giving sworn under oath testimony.

Fox's audience has its share of racially motivated viewer. Fox is the business of generating ratings. Zimmerman provides a nice story for the viewers and improves ratings, which allows Fox to charge more for advertising. Fox is not interested in all the facts. Imagine if Bob Sheaffer had been doing the interview.

Mimi: The major networks ran the story on the killing of Trayvon because of the outsopken Al Sharpton. I don't always agree with Al Sharpton, but I think him for drawing attention to the killing of Trayvon. Zimmerman can not walk free without some consequences.

I guess you folks would have just let trayvon kill you rather than defend yourself. The rest of us would be calling you a da for not using your weapon. you would be dead or brain dead and guess what. Al Sharpton wouldnt be speaking up for you. Your family would be in mourning and life goes on. It was a tough choice to make. Let the trial determine the outcome.

@ callingitlikeitis......if ol' Zimmy boy would've gone back home that night and followed the police dispatchers plain, simple and direct instructions to NOT pursue, this whole conversation wouldn't be takin' place, and a young man dead. Now THAT'S calling it like it is. Please play again

I think in George of the jungle mind he had to kill someone to justify the robberies that took place where he lived,but he got the wrong person,an unarmed kid that he could exchange punches with,but no,he had to use his gun to stop the kid. Why didn't he call 911 when the first time he saw the kid, instead playing hero? I had situations here where I live and I don't care what people say,I call 911,instead going out there and start a fight with some knuckleheads,it's safer that way.

".obama even got involved WITHOUT KNOWING A SINGLE FACT!"

I must have missed that can you post a link or source of what Obama did in this case?

Roger

Zimmerman did call the police dispatcher (not 911) and was told Not to follow him and stay in his car. He decided to disobey those orders.

I was not there so I do not know if he is guilty or not, but I find it odd that he keeps going on the air and sticking his foot in his mouth,why would his lawyer let him do that,I believe that is the reason that his first lawyers quit,if he keeps changing his story the prosecution will have an easy job.

BP...seriously? if you are not even aware of that, you probably should not be posting comments.

ever heard "if i had a son...."

catch up man....you've missed a lot.

fox news...........do search on fox news dumber......see studies that show people are actually dumber for watching fox news..........Fox news dumber.......

BP-2252891:

upchuck....you need to listen to the 911 tapes again pal...there is a HUGE difference in DO NOT PURSUE as you claim and WE DO NOT NEED YOU TO DO THAT.....very big diff....

Lots of selective hearing on that bit. People have pointed that little tidbit out over and over again, and the fact that a 911 operator has no authority, or Zimmerman's "OK" after that line. The only possible explanation is that some people are just willfully ignoring facts and are happy to substitute them with conjecture to come to the conclusion they desire.

argue....your dad sees you picking your nose at the table....he says to you...I don't need you to do that!~....Do you continue to pick your nose ? Or do you stop?...Your dad is not a cop...do you stop picking your nose?

My Dad had authority over me when I was a child. He could tell me what to do, how to do it and when to do it, not that your silly comparison has any bearing on anything about this case. Even if it was an order, Zimmerman responds "OK" immediately after the request. I'll give you a gift of the request being an order even though 911 operator is not a law enforcement officer and has no authority. Zimmerman still responds "OK" and proceeds to determine a meeting spot with police, even not willing to give his address because he states he doesn't know where Martin is. How and why do you come to the conclusion (logically) that Zimmerman was still following Martin?

fox news...........do search on fox news dumber......see studies that show people are actually dumber for watching fox news..........Fox news dumber.......

I"d bet my house you have lowest IQ here. Did anyone ever tell you correlation is not causation?

starsailing is right. The number 1 misinformed cable news audience are Fox "news" viewers. Number 2 are MSNBC viewers. The average age of Fox "News" audience is over 60 years old. MSNBC hits a younger demographic.

CNN is probably the most balanced of the news networks, but most people get their news from multiple sources on the internet. Especially people under 40 years of age.

Prowhiner....hides behind a comp wall for protection. As if you would bet your house or anything else in person. Apparently your IQ forbids you from comprehending....do search on ....FOX NEWS DUMBER....where studies show people are actually dumber for watching fox news. Lies and wrong info abound that gullible people absorb in the ol cranium. The imperfect electric impulses bounce around inside and sometimes leaks out and manifests itself in their rants like on this blog. I double dog dare you..no...I triple dog dare you to do search on....fox news dumber......to see yourself...as yourself.

Yours truly, Cyrano

Starsailing- You see your mom and dad bringing in groceries, so you grab a bag. Your mom says "We don't need you to do that" Do you give her the bag back? or do you help her?

argues

He did not call 911, he called the non-emergency number which directs you to the actual police department. The phones at the police department are manned by actual police officers so they actually do have the authority to tell someone not to do something. Just because it wasn't stated as an order does not mean that it was not a directive.

As for the other part of your post. Wow, he said okay and that means that he did what was said. Yes he did arrange to meet the police at a specific location known by the police. He is the one that changed the arrangement by telling the dispatcher to have the police call him when they arrive so that he can direct him to his location. If he was going back to his vehicle to meet the police at a specific location, why did he need the police to call him so that he could direct them to his location? He was on the phone with the dispatcher for almost two minutes after he lost sight of TM so why wasn't he on his way back to his vehicle or already at his vehicle? That is how a person can logically come to the conclusion that he was continuing to pursue TM.

Just as you claim that we don't need you to do that is not a directive, I can claim that okay is nothing more than acknowledging that he heard what the dispatcher said, not that he was going to follow that directive.

StarSailing,

I just read your last post, you have not gone through 'PUBERTY' yet have you... "Triple Dog Dare You", where did you come up with that unless you are still a juvenile. People on here need to quit responding to your posts, as I am after this. Now go outside and play with your friends...

If the bag had a bomb in it and Zimmerman had no bomb disposal expertise then he sure as hell better not even look at that bag. And it turned out to be a bomb after all.

Katherine Green ...(#10)

"remy1b: I am wondering why Fox News will do such a interview. It seem as if they want to get Zimmerman off. If they interviewed Zimmerman they should all do a interview with Trayvon's parents."

Less than 12 hours after the Hannity Interview with Zimmerman....The parents of Trayvon Martin and their Family Attorney, Crump, did an Interview on FoxNews, on the Fox & Friends program ...It was very respectful ...

He was on the phone with the dispatcher for almost two minutes after he lost sight of TM so why wasn't he on his way back to his vehicle or already at his vehicle? That is how a person can logically come to the conclusion that he was continuing to pursue TM

So you admit to Zimmerman losing sight of Martin, for almost 2 minutes, yet he was still somehow following Martin? Your "logical" explanation requires you to assume Zimmerman both ignores dispatch and that "OK" was just an affirmation of hearing the dispatcher. Not only that, Zimmerman has super powers now, he was following someone he did not know the location of. How are you going to spin losing sight of Martin to mean he really knew where Martin was and was still following while on his way to meet police?

Katherine, I too wonder why FoxNews would do such an interview. I can only guess from what I'm seeing of Hannity's questions and his approach that he is not at all interested in nailing down facts, he is interested in letting Zimmerman tell the message he wants told without regard to facts (quoted from above)

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you can make the same generalized statement about statements not being facts about BOTH sides of the story. that serves no purpose, to use reasoning in a debate that can apply to both sides

there are very few "facts". the only physical evidence is the injuries he sustained, along with his gun being the one that fired the shot. other than that, all "evidence" is verbal testimony from Zimmerman or from the witnesses. Zimmermans story is consistent, and consistent with his injuries, while the witnesses stories have changed at least once. i am not pretending to know, as most here are, whether he acted in a right or wrong manner, i am just saying. oh, and one last fact for you, is that no matter what verdict is returned, millions of people will feel it was the wrong verdict based on their OPINIONS. just one small difference, if he is found guilty, the ones who think he is innocent will go on with their lives, but if he is found innocent, there is significant risk of violence and rioting by those who think he is guilty.

he has been tried by public OPINION already, so the facts make little difference to the public at this point. the facts certainly matter very little to you, because you openly and rhetorically discount anything that disagrees with your OPINION, and support as fact anything that does agree with your opinion

"he has been tried by public OPINION already, so the facts make little difference to the public at this point."

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

given the recent criminal activity in the area, Zimmerman was well within his rights to pursue a suspicious person. what if he stopped, and Treyvon hurt somebody else? Zimmerman had no way of knowing that Treyvon had family in the neighborhood, he had to assume there was some danger, because when your family's safety is on the line, you err on the side of caution. it is better to be proven wrong about a suspicious person than it is to ignore the person and have harm come to those you care about. it was Zimmerman's duty to protect himself, his family, and his neighbors. that is what neighborhood watch is for. i have been walking in a neighborhood that had a watch program before, and had the police called on me, been followed. that is NORMAL if you are not recognized, and ABSOLUTELY reasonable. i would do it too. i acted like a respectful and harmless human being, and everything turned out fine. i am white by the way. this is normal no matter what color your skin is.

CB....Apparently satire is above your level of comprehension also. My response of double and triple dog dare was a mirror image of the immature boast of anothers rant, where upon the misguided soul was going to bet the house on his IQ. Let me lower my response to your level like I did to the other response for your reading comprehension......I know you are you big poopy, what am I?

If the glove don't fit you must acquit

Mikey...mom never had to ask us kids to help bring in groceries.......we always ran out to the car to carry them in. First dibs on what was in the cereal box!

starsailing, are you in an institution that offers internet access?

isnt it funny that every mainstream media outlet all follows obamas talking points every day they wait for him to tell them what lies to tell you idiots

There is no need to interview Tracy Martin, he does not even know his son. Trayvon is 17, gone to public school, has tats and a grill, smokes weed, but has never said MF, BS. Why did TM's dad not take TM to dinner with him? Was TM's dad supposed to have been watching over TM because his mom had sent TM to be with his dad after TM got kicked out of school?

MMMM how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?? The world may never know. My post makes about the same sense as some of these on here.

but he got the wrong person,an unarmed kid that he could exchange punches with,but no,he had to use his gun to stop the kid. Why didn't he call 911 when the first time he saw the kid, instead playing hero? I

And, he still does not feel any remorse!

This whole apologies issue is nonsense. First they insisted they wanted an apology and then when he finally had a chance to speak to them (in court) they said it was too late. If you killed someone (in self-defense or not) the last thing you would think of doing would be to go to his family and apologize, unless you have a death wish. And if someone attacked me and I had to kill in self-defense (which needless to say I hope to never have to do), I certainly wouldn't apologize to his family, I would expect his family to apologize for raising their son so badly and/or on behalf of their son for attacking me.

Well, Anna, the difference between you and him (at least I hope) is that he wasn't defending himself. He started the trouble, and then when he began to lose the battle he shot A KID, and is now crying self defense. So I would without a doubt say that in THIS case the parents do not need to apologize for anything. From the obvious point of view, they raised their son right. Zimmerman's parent's, apparently, need to be apologizing for the way they raised their son, if that was the case.

Why would you apologize for saving your own life?

Neany360 - Again another person saying "He started the trouble" and you have NOTHING to prove this. Do you know anything about Trayvon? So being suspending for drugs, tardiness, etc is ok and shows they raised there son right? Another person with zero facts and just a bunch of emotion.

You should read about the difference between a "Meaningful Apology" vs. a "Meaningless Apology". An example of a "MEANINGUL" apology is “I am so sorry. I know I was wrong. I cannot believe what an idiot I was. There is no excuse for my behavior. You have every right to be angry with me. What I did was terrible.”

Zimmerman's apology is a MEANINGLESS apology that only benefits himself.

If Zimmerman molested his cousin for 10 years, another example of a meaningless apology is "I am sorry for what happened to you." That is meaningless apology because the molester never accepted complete responsibility. So when someone asks for an apology, a meaningful one, that means the person apologizing accepts COMPLETE responsibility for the offensive behavior. The person does NOT make excuses nor blames anyone else.