Update at 6:37 p.m. ET: Investigators are saying two Iowa cousins who disappeared a week ago have been abducted after a search of the lake where their bikes were found came up empty.
Cousins Lyric Cook-Morrissey, 10, and 8-year-old Elizabeth Collins, went missing July 13 while the pair were riding bikes near Meyers Lake in Evansdale.
Investigators began draining the lake Monday, but stopped at the FBI's request so divers could conduct a search with special sonar equipment, The Associated Press reported.
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The sonar doesn't work in less than six feet of water.
Black Hawk County Sheriff Chief Deputy Rick Abben told reporters at a news conference Friday that evidence was collected and sent to a lab to be tested. He did not say what the evidence was.
The announcement comes the same day a judge put Lyric’s father, 36-year-old Daniel Morrissey, on pretrial supervision until September when he is scheduled to face drug charges.
Authorities said Morrissey and his wife, Misty Cook-Morrissey, 34, stopped cooperating with police as of Thursday, The AP reported.
The AP reported Abben said neither is considered a suspect and wasn't sure why they had stopped talking with police.
Related: Families of missing Iowa girls fear they were kidnapped
Cook's sister, Tammy Brousseau, told the AP the girl's parents felt like they were being treated as suspects. Both stopped cooperating after their attorney advised them to do so.
"They've been cooperating with the police 100 percent, but because police don't have a silver Cadillac that tore off with the kids, they don't have no leads," she told AP.
Cook told the Des Moines Register Thursday that Daniel walked out of a police interview earlier in the week after police accused him of killing the two girls.
Authorities also have sifted through trash, examined a laptop and computer, and dug into the parents' past criminal histories.
Cook has a meth-related drug charge from 10 years ago and Daniel has multiple drug charges along with burglary and domestic assault.
Morrissey is charged with possession of methamphetamine with intent to deliver conspiracy to manufacture methamphetamine and other crimes.
The Register reported Morrissey's eight-year marriage to Cook has been rocky at times. The domestic assault charges stems from a 2011 incident where Cook told police he smashed her face into the floor and placed his knee over her neck, making it difficult for her to breathe.
Brousseau told the station the pair had a no contact order with each other but has since been modified since both girls went missing.
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'Occupy Wall Street Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Member'
Occupy Wall Street's main website, has named Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as an Occupy Black Bloc Member, which has been confirmed by Occupy Black Bloc researcher and expert private investigator Bill Warner.
Pure Hog Wash. Read Warner's Blog. He is speculating. Stop with your irrelevant and inaccurate comments.
maybe you should look a bit deeper at Mr. Warner's background and then ask yourself what kind of whack nut would take him seriously about anything.
leftrightcenter:
"ask yourself what kind of whack nut would take him seriously about anything."
Answer... a teabag fidiot.
hmm, wrong article. this is about the little girls who are missing, not about james holmes or politics. i don't know why so many people leave comments about things that have nothing to do with the article on the page. weird
Hey mmac do you think you might be posting to the wrong article? This story is about Iowa low lifes and missing kids dorko!
He knows, but they kicked him in the correct one.
Here's the deal. In any missing childrens' scenario, it is incumbent upon law enforcement to treat every "gone missing" children as the worst possible scenario; i.e. as an abduction. This is not overkill; it is the prudent and proper thing to do, as we see time and time again. At least early in the investigation no Amber Alert was issued. If one has been issued, it's my bad, but not totally. An Amber Alert should have been alarmed in the first 48 hours or sooner. Time is the most critical thing to consider. Usually within 72 hours of an abduction a large percentage of the children have already been killed. The law enforcement in this case has dropped the ball, big-time. They are still talking about using sonar at a lake! If there has been an abduction, the perp has had plenty of time to disappear. This police work is of the worst kind. When was the FBI called in? They can be involved immediately if there is ANY reason to believe the children may have crossed state lines. Obviously there is probable cause to think that ths might be the case. And, with the parent's checkered pasts with drug related arrests, there is another scary dimension involved. If the parents were involved in a botched drug deal, a truly wired, awake for 5 days meth head is capable of ANYTHING. Meth is actually more dangerous than heroin; you don't know how high the maker was when brewing up a batch, and what he stepped on (substances to allow a bigger batch to be made) and some are extremely toxic. I was a party animal in college, married when I was 31, and as the children came, it was time to settle down. The adage is You take drugs, they don't take you!! Sadly, people don't understand this. Some people are too stupid to live..........
hater, or are you in on the abductions
I don't think they are still alive. I believe that they have come across the wrong person's path and the bodies have been moved to a different location.
If someone kidnapped these two girls, I would think they would have taken the bikes and their purses with them, tossed the cell phones in another location to throw people off the trail.
As for the sheriff of that town. They really need to get a new one. That man is a dumbazz letting people going in and out of that park after they came up missing. And instead of this sheriff doing all these breaking news interviews on tv all the time, spend more time searching for these two kids and less time yapping about what you don't know about.
I do hope
I am wrong and that the two are still alive, but something is telling me that they have departed this earth.
As for the parents... Why the hell aren't parents paying attention to their kids and monitoring them a lot better. You do not let two little girls go biking away from your home as the sun is beginning to set.
Amber alerts are not issued for every missing child. They are only issued for known abduction cases, and I believe it is only in the first 24 hours (not positive on that last bit). This is because they want people to pay attention to Amber alerts, and unless they have information on the abductor (looks, what they're wearing, car they're driving...anything), they won't issue one. So this case, unfortunately didn't meet the criteria. I do hope these girls are found, and they are well...but it sounds like these parents have a lot in their own lives to clean up. Sad.
I agree Areius. And I think they need to be doing another major check of local sex offenders.
Arieus
I think you're on to something. They were abducted at the local shopping center and the bikes were taken to the lake to throw the cops of the trail.
I wouldn't want a lawyer who states, '........they don't have no leads'.
why is it so little known that in order to issue an amber alert you need to have a description of A CAR, that was known to have taken the kids. and it was the middle of the day, not dusk. how about keeping some perspective to the fact that this is probably every parents absolute worst nightmare, and 2 little girls are missing.
wow...Bernie's letting them take him...
Darthfrodo,
You beat me to it. I cannot imagine how someone made it through law school speaking that way, "don't have no leads" eesh, that makes me cringe.
I can't say how I would react in this situation, it has got to be difficult to endure being accused of hurting your kids, but it seems like if they would just cooperate they can finish investigating the parents (and I'm sorry but all too often the parents were involved) so they can focus on finding the real suspect. I know there are bad cops out there, but it seems like if they're pressing them hard, more than the normal amount, then maybe there is something that is pointing to the parents and it seems like refusing to cooperate can only hurt them further.
The drug addict, Daniel killed the girls.
He was able to smash Cook's face into the ground, and knee her until she couldn't breathe in a drug/domestic dispute..
Anyone capable of such domestic violence and having a severe dysfunctional home is capable of killing anyone--including his own daughter, and her cousin.
Now the truth is out. For weeks, Americans were led to believe it was some dark mystery on how they disappeared. Missing kids first. The Police/Investigators have known all along who the killer was, waiting for this creep to trip up--now both Cook and Daniel will no longer respond to the Investigation.
It smells like fish that has been rotting for 3 days or more--they have their suspect or suspects; the Authorities letting them believe they were looking for someone else--in time, the truth comes out in these cases--it's always a parent, or boyfriend.
Once again, rotten parents. There are so many in the United States--kids, helpless, depending on their parents for security and love. Not in this case. Illegal drugs are always involved in these murders.
Check into the fathers drug deals
I dont think its the puplics business to know about the family's personal problems. What should be focused on is the girls. Just because a person has made a mistake and used drugs don't mean that they dont love their children. Who knows they could have sent the kids on a bike ride so they could do their drugs. Its very unfortunate that parents have to go through loosing their children and then to know someone has their children and the police wont go look in the right direction and just want to focus on their mistakes and wrong doings. The childrens safety should not be jeprodized because of the parents mistakes. it sounds like they have more problems than most and need to know that the police are there to help them not judge them at a time like this. The girls should not be punished because of their parents past. they deserve to be looked for like any other child in these unfortunate cases. It's sad that valuable time is lost on finding them do to T.V. interviews and small minded law enforcement that want to focus on something other than the true crime that has taken place. I hope that the girls are found soon and I will be praying for their safe return. We all need to remember the cases that the parents were focused on and new leads were never followed do to that and time was lost finding the real criminals.
Even if he didn't abduct the girls, meth heads have a tendency to be around and have relations with a common crowd especially in a lower populated area.
if he is a meth head he pobably sold them
The "dont have no leads" quote comes from the mother's sister, not the family's attorney.
Unbelievable22:
Parents who do illegal drugs and/or are drug dealers "Do Not Love their Children". Child Abuse.
Selfish, negligent, abandonment, safety issues, neglect are all part of a child growing up in a non-parent household where there are zombies literally taking another "hit"..
Addicted druggies should never have children, ever.
cmach
The sheriff in that town is a complete azzhole imo. He has botched up the 'crime scene" by not closing the park down, and he's always on the news giving every little detail of their investigation. what a dumbazz, and the people of that town need to fire his ignorant azz as well.
WTF was this dumbazz even thinking by allowing people to go in and out of a park during an investigation.
Fire his stupid azz, look around for all the pedophiles in the area. Pretty easy to do on the internet, and close the effen park down so the alleged kidnapper doesn't come back for the bike and purses left behind.
http://www.homefacts.com/offenders/Iowa/Black-Hawk-County.html
OMG, I cannot believe we have so many goddamn stupid people in high positions such as this sheriff.
All this speculation and the bottom line is that this is all about low life folk and how they live and raise their kids. they are often so addled they don't pay attention where they are at. This is the way of the world.
Arieus. I am with you on that.
I think we have lost our way as a nation and as a species. Fortunately the universe may be big enough to house some less insane sentient organisms.
After watching a little NHN where the talk shows have already started condemning the man for past mistakes which really has nothing at all do with the girls. The same way they have condemn other family members in old case or even the Zimmerman case, big mouths using tragic incidences to build careers on. To quote an old cliche', the vultures are circling.
the parents still should not have stopped cooperating with the police. The longer the cops focus on them, the longer it will take for them to look into other leads..... that is, if the parents are truly not responsible.
When a person of interest stops talking and lawyers-up, detectives are always convinced they have the right guy. If your story doesn't change and you don't look afraid to be investigated then that is discouraging to a cop who is trying to nail you.
I suspect that the poster above is not an attorney. Once the police take an aggressive posture toward you (or maybe sooner) you may want to invoke your Sixth Amendment right to counsel. Many a person who didn't, found themselves wrongfully charged with a crime, usually with distorted quotes taken by police who think they are doing their job. Once the police decide they "like" you for the crime, it won't matter whether you cooperate or tell a consistent story; they will pursue you until they can get an indictment or make an arrest. Do yourself a favor, and ignore legal advice from non-lawyers.
Has anyone else noticed the trend of parents that "dont cooperate" with these donut eating @!$%#s when they have no leads. The police are pushing and pushing the parents until ya you accuse me o killing my daughter I'd walk out on you too Barney @!$%#ing Fife and so now hoe hoe your not co-operatingso I can now take a break stuff another donut in m face and say yup the parents did.
I understand that an attorney told them to stop talking to the media and the police. You are no longer considered innocent until proven guilty in this country. You are guilty until you prove your innocence. And WTF??? The guys kid is missing and they are messing with him over other @!$%#??? Damn... What a @!$%#ed up world this has become...
So you are saying the fact that both parents have drug arrests on the blotter, should not be a consideration in this case. By your logic, if one of them was convicted of say, involuntary manslaughter, that should not be taken into account here, because a second/unrelated drug charge could have nothing to do with this case. DKJ4, I believe you did not ride the elevator to the top floor.
a little early for conspiracy theories... write your novel n then get the facts
Past drug arrests don't mean a damned thing! Take your theory and stick it bernie ...
Of course the drug charges were written up to cause more drama...just because the arents are stupid in that respect doesn't mean they don't love theeir children.
I believe this is what Nancy Grace does...brings up every little thing and eventually has EVERYONE suspicious...
Bernie, using drugs is a long ways off from taking the life of your child. Just because a person has one shortcoming (and don't we all have something?) it doesn't make them a monster. That's like saying that because someone has lost their license from too many speeding tickets is more likely to be guilty of murder - they simply aren't equal or related. Should the drug relations be investigated to ensure there's nothing in the direction of bad deals or revenge? Of course. However it doesn't automatically mean the dad is guilty over it either.
If the father was doing drugs it could be somebody took the girls for money he owed or maybe he was selling drugs and screwed someone over you never know.
Clarkjoebob, you're an idiot. But keep on speculating based on nothing really but your own imagination. I hate tweakers as much as the next person--more probably; but just because the parents do meth doesn't immediately make everything bad in the world relate to that. I don't think the parents should expose their children to the tweaker lifestyle or be around their kids when they are spun; but as easy is it is to assume that's the case (and I admit I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case), there is no solid evidence from the article to back up that claim. It could be possible that these people worked very hard to shelter their child from what they were doing; unlikely but possible. Point is, unless you have solid proof, everything else is just your opinion/bias/fear/crap. And although I'm sure you're absolutely positive in your own mind that you have the inside scoop, I'm less than positive about your special gift to know the truth based on internet reporting.
One example from my own life. After the 2005 kidnapping and murder of a family just outside Coeur d'Alene, the media posted photos of the mother, her fiance, and her 13 year old son--all of whom had been killed at their residence; and the two children Shasta (9) and Dylan (8) who were kidnapped. The media reported the slain couple's checkered past with meth and the children's father pleaded with them that they not dwell on that but focus on getting his children back. I was just as sure as you, clarkjoebob, that the parents owed money and the kids had been sold for child porn. Turns out I was 100% wrong and it was just some psycho sex predator that did it so he could molest the children (killed Dylan too, only Shasta made it out of the whole mess alive). Turns out it had nothing whatsoever to do with drugs and the media succeeded in dragging dead peoples names through the mud because that's their job, even though there was no evidence whatsoever that their drug use and the children's disappearance were related. I myself was forced to admit that my own judgment about the case was 100% wrong. For all the self-righteous a-holes out there who have never done anything wrong, made any mistakes, or had an addiction (be it drugs, porn, gambling, going to church, etc.): good for you; now shut up and let those of us who aren't perfect try to get through our lives without the added weight of your judgment constantly resting on us.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think people on here forget that these are real people and those girls are in very real danger. None of thier guessing or posting on what they "think" they know does anything to help the girls.
Thanks for posting in reality.....it's lonely out here......................................
Shane from @!$%# I mean Idaho I was saying it could happen. It happen to a friend of my parents sister she was selling drugs and somebody came into her house and killed her and her kids. P.S you shouldn't called people idiots because the next person might fly to Idaho and pay your dumbass a visit.
No, this doesn't have anything to do with drugs, its another sick child molester. Believe me, if someone owed me money for drugs, the last thing I want is there kids!
clarkjoebob
Your idea sounds very probable to me. The parents were using and distributing meth. They must have come into contact with lots of creppy people. Pedifiles included. And where are Elizabeth's parents ? Jail maybe?
In what world does selling meth = automatic association with pedophiles?
Drugs and pedophilia don't always go hand in hand. That's an odd leap.
Clarkjoebob: you're pretty scary, I'm shaking right now. Tell you what, idiot, please do come to Idaho and look me up any time. Really you simply proved my point; threatening to fly to a different state to confront someone simply because you don't like something they said on the Internet shows how much of a jackass you are. If you would actually do something like that, it shows you're a psycho freak with a lot of disposable income and way too much time on your hands!
Dynamik: of course the theory sounds very probable to you, you are obviously into speculation as much as clarkjoebob (more into speculation than spelling or reading comprehension, apparently). Don't you think if Elizabeth's parents were in jail, the media wouldn't have jumped on that too? That would be like a vulture passing up roadkill. Also, the story reads that the mother had a conviction 10 years ago-hence the statement that the parents (i.e. both of them) were using and distributing (present tense) is again simple speculation (not that it would surprise me if the mother was). Not that judgmental folks like you believe anyone can change; I mean I crapped in my diapers when I was a baby, that doesn't mean I crap in my diapers today. It is the father that is currently facing charges, not the mother. Could be she just figured out how to not get caught, could be she doesn't do meth any more; we don't know the whole story so why jump to conclusions? Wait, I already know the answer to that question. Again, I applaud those of you with no sin among you; you may cast the proverbial first stone. Before you do however, you should bare your own life's details so the rest of us can know you are really as sinless as you think you are.
Their attorney advised them to stop talking with police after he realized they were resposnible for the girls dissapearance. just my geuss...
That is an assumption with nothing to go on. Neither you -nor I - have any idea what happened to these children. And at whatever point parents feel like they are being accused, and after they have done everything possible (re answering questions, granting access, taking lie detector tests) it is time to hire a lawyer.
Too bad the police didn't do an Amber alert, because if someone took these children, they are long gone now!
The police can't do an Amber Alert unless they have a car associated with the abduction. However, I've thought from the beginning that they should have simultaneously pursued the possibility of abduction along with their investigation of the lake. That way, if they didn't find anything in the lake, they'd have somewhere to go instead of sitting around scratching their heads...which is exactly what they're doing now. They've waited too long, and in the week that they've wasted, their chances of finding these girls have significantly dwindled.
Shoddy police work at best. Criminal negligence at worst.
RJH4509 Yes, that is exactly the case I was trying to make in my post. Law enforcement officials make a pretty dumb situation even dumber. The sheriff should have said "I don'tgive a damn if there's no car involved. Issue an Amber Alert with bikes as the vehicle, whatever. What the hell, give me a goddamn Amber Alert NOW, or I'm going over your head, and you will really look stupid at that point. JUST DO IT, and argue about it later!!! Two children's lives are at stake !
This person should immediately executed. No court, no due process, PERIOD!!! Kill the bastard!!!
Harold... Immediately executed? No court/due process? In what country do you reside? Shouldn't they be proven guilty first? Talk about your basic rush to judgment!
I do, however, think anyone convicted and proven guilty of assaulting or molesting children should be done away with. Park a couple behind their right ear and get it over with. They're, obviously, on the wrong planet.
harold I am guessing you are from the middle east bc that is not how we do things here... now get home to your tent, the camels are frisky for you
Harold -- don't you think they need to find them first?
Harold my friend, your heart and sentiments are in the right place. America's judicial system is totally broken and needs fixing, big time. However, it is all we have at this point. You are correct that capital murder convictions should result in the execution of the scumbags. For one thing, we need to reform the justice system to a time-line. There are statutes of limitations for certain crimes, meaning after say seven years someone cannot be convicted after a given lapse of time. Simply, we need to do the same thing in reverse for punishment of capital offenders. Pick a number; OK let's say 15 years. Make that the time frame for all appeals through the judicial process. After that, your ticket has been punched; if you have not been exonerated, well it's supper time in Hell. This would give bleeding hearts such as myself, the knowledge that justice has been served, and the punishment (execution) should be meted out accordingly. And to add a little pizazz to this, make the murderer know all avenues of appeals have been exhausted and that sometime within the next year they will be put down like the mad dogs they are. But don't give them a date, just sometime within the next 365 days they wil be executed. Let them squirm in their cells, sweating every day out, not knowing when the guards and chaplain will be taking them to the end of death row, and existence on this planet. No more 40 years of appeal after appeal, with taxpayers footing the bill. And living in fear for the year would make more sense than just executing them; that's too easy, too painless. It's time to start judicial reform now. The scales of Lady Justice are cruelly in favor of the perpetrator, with victims having fewer rights than the criminal. The time has come.
Hey Harold,
You said the samething on the Colorado shootings....you got anything new to say????
In light of this incident I am ordering all business's to install scanners and have on site security to frisk all persons coming into their establishments. This world is full of sick @!$%#s and we need to start killing them. You take a life, we take yours. If the libs are feeling guilty, not to worry I will be glad to get rid of them for free!! Sick people should be DEAD!!!
And that will stop kid snatchers and lone wolf spree killers how? How, exactly, is this stupidity going to find these two little girls, and bring back the 12 dead in Colorado?
Stop making excuses for these IDIOTS and kill them!! Stop feeding the lawyers and get rid of them!! Hey Obama, issue an executive order to immediately kill this piece of @!$%#. If his parents speak out, KILL THEM!!
Harold Gates, you just posted three very scarey posts. I'm so glad you aren't my neighbor because I'd be very leary of you.
Just another troll taking advantage of Internet anonymity.
You are either a very disturbed individual or a very bad troll. Either way, your diatribes are not worth anyone's time.
Mr. Gates.....I hope that you are being sarcastic, because if not....maybe we should be investigating you! I am sure that your nasty comments about people you've never met before are sure to bring Elizabeth and Lyric home. These are real people, with real feelings!!! Reguardless of what you think of the police work, or the parents and thier past drug history.......reality remains that two very kind, very innocent little girls are missing....and no one, not even you Mr. Gates knows the reason why or where they can be found. Your comments are horrible in the face of such a tremendous loss for Misty, Dan and Drew and Heather that I am almost speechless! Almost, but as you can see, I have managed to get control long enough to tell you, that you should be ashamed. I'm hoping that in the future...should you ever need assistance with a horrific event such as this in your own life....that you find the same amount of compassion directed at you.....from people that don't even know you!!!!!! In this country we look at the facts before we condem a person for a crime. - There are other places in the world to live.............leave if you don't like our system.....or do something to change it instead of commenting on other peoples lives and hiding behind your computer!
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We will not stop praying until Elizabeth and Lyric are brought home!!!!
Amen Faith.......8 days, the changes of them being alive, is unfortunately, pretty slim. It's a VERY rural location here, it sort of has to be someone local.....prayers they are found alive, and if not alive...found period.
We need to understand the insanity of Methamphetamine addiction. I believe it is one of the most destructive drugs currently, and on the rise around the World. This crap makes anybody associated with it do Horrific acts of violence in order to maintain their habit.
It quickly turns people who use to be normal into monsters. Just look at before and after pictures of people who have been on this trash, often times it takes less than six months to make them unrecognizable.
I hate to say that I was wondering where the Parents of the older Girl were, when they went missing.
I think it maybe time to make an exception when Children go missing and Methamphetamine's are involved.
Some times you have to take the Kidd gloves off and get down to business. Time is running out for these Children if indeed they have any time left at all.
I remember "methheads" back in the late 60's early 70's. No one trusted them and they were snorting it or shooting it back then. It seems smoking it is worse.
TPFlusher,
Too true. The adage "speed kills", coined in the 60's, is more true today.
liitle....all the families whereabout, included BOTH sets of parents, is known. They are interviewing all the sexual offenders in the area. If you go to Iowa Sexual Offender Registry, and put in BLack Hawk County...you can see what a bit job this is....that doesn't include known sexual offenders in the surrounding countries...hell Waterloo, the closest big city...has 100's.
Don't go to movies see the newest movies on Your TV and be safe at home..Cheaper Also and you don't have to stand in line the day before it opens, This is kind of DUMB!!!!
You do realize this story is about two young girls who have been abducted, don't you? Read the story before you post.
Regardless of why these two sweet little girls are missing and probably abducted lets focus on their safe return if they are still alive and then let the authorities sort out the details regarding they should be returned to their parents. First these little ladies must be found. . . . .
Why the hell are you idiots commenting on things that have nothing to do with this article??? I think there are a few methheads around here!
Deputy Abben threw his credibility away. The cops searched the grandmother's house, siezed 2 computers and other items, and subjected the parents to polygraph tests and multiple interrogations. If Abben said neither parent is considered a suspect, and claims he doesn't know why they quit cooperating with authorities, then no statement from the Blackhawk County Sheriff's Department should be taken at face value.
Maybe the father raped the girls and then kill them. You know white men like raping their daughters.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you are being sarcastic due to all the posts on here that throw this up all the time. At least i hope you are...
sounds like u are trying to turn this into a race discussion
The truth is the truth.
Oh hell yes, all of us. What a useless example of humanity you are, Kathy. You wouldn't know truth if it spanked your useless fat ass.
I whole heartily agree that Kathy's statement is classless and is unwarranted. However, Terry raised a very very interesting point by noting that Kathy is trying to turn this into a "race discussion". I find his response interesting because that is precisely what it would have been had the suspect been black. For the last two years I have been analyzing the blogs of homicide stories posted on MSNBC and I have found that race is more likely to be discussed in the comments about black suspects than in the comments about white suspects. More specifically, a large volume of posts about black suspects are filled with comments (mostly negative) of the black race while those of their white counterparts hardly ever mention race. Moreover, when the suspect is black the discussion tends to focus on internal factors as causes for their deviant behavior (i.e. there is something innate about being black and violent - the violent black subculture) whereas if the suspect is white the focus tends to be on external factors (i.e., economy, mental illness - rather than it being a subculture it was something around him that cause him to go off the deep end).
Terry, if you have never done so I challenge you to read the comments about black suspects and compare them to those of white suspects. I am convince you will find similar findings with regards to the discussion of race.
As for you Kathy, that is not a nice statement. It reflects badly on you.
Excuse me?!!!! "White men like raping their daughters?" Shame on you! My father never raped me, neither has any other man in my family raped anyone. None of my friends fathers, either, of any race. I have known about rapists of all races. This is an awful remark to make...and quite prejudiced. Note I did not say "Reverse prejudice" There is no such thing...prejudice is prejudice...and you Kathy, are prejudiced.
Kathy...?
Do you need to talk to somebody, maybe report something? Are you and your dad...okay? Or are you just making a "gross" generalization for effect?
Since when? Did they have information about a silver Cadillac? I didn't read where they took any impression of tire marks or tracks. Harold Gates, you are on the wrong page. I posted a week ago that the girls were abducted, there's no other possibility and no UFO took them.
Actually a week ago there was the chance they drowned after swimming because of the heat, but the case should have been handled as if they were all along but they wasted so much time on only the one side and nothing on the abduction. Pi$$ poor law enforcement.
You have to understand....Harold needs...to be nice..help. He posts the same thing about everyone...kill them, kill them, kill them.
And when the police came up with this epiphany? The minute I read the story, the second I imagined the worst. The Midwest is full of nuts, sex offenders, racist to the core, ergo, this things are to be expected. The news here should be why don't those incidents happen more often. The conditions are always there.
Wow, I thought clarkjoebob was the biggest idiot on here and then I read further. The midwest is the devil's chamberpot eh, Hell no? Never been there but I suspect it isn't any different than any other part of the country when it comes to nuts, sex offenders, and racists; so I'm not sure what your point is. You don't like the midwest, o.k.; but where are you from that isn't full of the same people you are railing against? Sounds like a great place, but I bet it only exists in your mind.
and Colorado is in the Midwest?
O.K., I went oveboard by calling Iowa a Midwestern state, but that is trivia pursuit. Everybody knew I was talking about Iowa and Shane that is from Idaho saw the reference too close for comfort, because sometimes is not what we said but what we mean that matters most and he saw his state full of perverts also.
Again, I know I went overboard, but now let me rephrase that and put it like the law of gravity: A law, an irrefutable fact. And please, don't confuse with "refudiate", cause people like you are not too bright, ergo, the reason those states have so many retards, so many carrying Bibles, so many carrying guns, so many hating "illegals" that were here before the retards took native Americans', Mexicans' lands.
What I should have said is, if the state, ahem Iowa, ahem Idaho, -yes Shane, you- has a republican for governor, then it's to be expected. Tea partiers, republicans are the antithesis of Christianity, democracy, law and order. Care more for ideology than every thing else, except, of course, their racist ways. They rather die with their racism within their cold hands than give an inch. Again, my apologies for putting you people a la par of Al Capones, et al, but then again isn't this the same when you people refer to blacks as they all look alike? That is what I meant.
You wanna take back what you said about the Midwest?
I think you missed the point, when I compared you people with the Al Capones wasn't meant to say you are, were any better, but same old, same old, or if you prefer the melting pot. Or better yet, this would be like the pot calling the kettle black. Now, do you get it?
Isn't is possible if the father of one of these girls has been involved with drugs and is going to trial, that someone he has done business with, has taken the girls and threatened to harm them if he dos anything in his trial to implicate them?
Why do we waste money on police, prosecutors, and judges when we have people like donna52 to sort out all the bad things in the world for us? Wake up, sweetheart, this ain't an Agatha Christie novel or one of your Lifetime movies. See my post above to clarkjoebob about useless speculation. It's also possible that the police kidnapped the two girls and are holding them hostage in an attempt to coerce Daniel into cooperating with them. It's possible that space aliens-the same ones who helped the Egyptians build the pyramids, came down and swooped the girls up. Or maybe it was the guy in Colorado that shot up the movie theater; he could have abducted the girls, then drove back to Aurora. Or maybe....
Here's a little piece of the real world for you: when two young girls are abducted; 99.9% of the time it's because some sicko wants to do something bad to them. But don't let that stop you from flapping your fingers to let the rest of us in on your wisdom. Even if it turns out that you are right (and I would never rule out your theory as a possibility), as of now you have only your imagination and hours of watching CSI and Law & Order to back up your detective work. Good job.
Actually, Shane, that is not true. In the majority of cases it is the parents or family member or someone close to the family.
Yes, Donna, I think that is a possibility. Btw...the comment about where the other parents are....they have made very few comments which I think is smart. Let the authorities do their job. They prob know more than they are letting on. It's their prerogative. I am from a neighboring town and believe me, it has touched everyone. All the negative comments about the police/sheriff and FBI are uncalled for. The FBI WAS there right away, no Amber Alert was issued b/c there was no description of any vehicle or any person. A lot of speculation still exists and will until these girls are found. So all you "experts" and know-it-alls should think before you post.....I mean really, you CAN proof read and edit before you make crackpot comments!
Crimes against children.. the worst.. crimes against children with meth involved.. despicable..
hopefully these two young girls will be found unharmed.. unlikely.
Isn't is possible if one of these fathers has been involved with drugs and is going to trial soon that someone he has done business with has taken the girls to keep him quiet?
what the F is wrong with people any more...I ope these kids are found unharmed !!
i hear the from a pretty good source the evidence they found was a pair of lil girls underwear and had blood on them not saying its true just hearsay...but with only living 35 miles from where this is y would you spend a week on a lake when there is a river to look threw for one and so many other places seems to me from what i hear they was for sure the lake would show something so now they have nothing but a wasted week except a back round of bull@!$%#
Why???? Why would you post something like this? You are unbelievably insensitive and the fact that you are telling me that you live near where this happened makes me suspect that you may be involved........I would expect to hear the sound of the police knocking on your door if there are anymore posts eluding to what was possibly found. What an asinine thing to post! Really!??????
I don't think the dad is bright enough to be a part of a kidnapping or killing without leaving any obvious evidence. I just don't see it. Sorry for slamming the guy, but do you honestly think he could pull off a major crime involving two minor children? His rap sheet doesn't read like an organized criminal mastermind. I believe they were taken and are simply gone. Sad and tragic. Now, perhaps someone he is involved with decided to take the girls as retribution....just a thought.
Look in the Mom's trunk.
For the person wondering about "silver cadillac" I think that was a euphamism for "silver bullet" and for the person that wondered where the parents were, they were accounted for, either at work or at a relatives house. News reports leave out so many informative details, it's no wonder we can't get a handle on the whole picture. It appears to be an abduction from what I've heard and read. My heart goes out to the families, they must be devastated.
Two Young Girls are missing. Police will leave no stone unturned. The Parents need to suck it up and account for their past and clear themselves in the minds of Police.
Not being cooperative is not helping the girls any.
Even if they had nothing to do with their disappearances.
The Police also must not just concentrate on the parents and get out and look.
Find clues and get the registration out of all close sexual predators. Start searching their homes and cars for evidence.
Find the girls is top priority. Police will do their jobs if you let them.
Rserp1,
Misty and Dan did cooperate with the police all week long. They searched their house, took polygraphs, everything. So I'm guessing that after a week of knowing that people are probably looking at them as suspects....even though the police are saying they are not.....that they've had all they can take emotionally. I'm really not sure why they were told to stop. But it might have something to do with the police screaming at Dan for several hours accusing him of killing the girls. The police have searched houses in town...along with known sex offenders. They've been stopping all traffic leaving town and all of the towns garbage from last week was seperated at the landfill and has either been gone through, or is being searched. We had over 1,000 volunteers come out and help search the lake, the park and all kinds of fields around the area.....they found nothing.
I do agree however that the girls are top priority. No tip is to small to report..........
I really can't blame the parents for stopping cooperating with the police. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have your child missing, you're crazy with worry, and instead of looking for the people who took her it seems like they're instead trying to pin it on you - which, if you didn't do it, means they aren't looking for your child. While this may not be how it's actually going, putting myself in the parents shoes I can sure see how it would appear that way to them.