To be honest, most of the world dislikes America, or Americans. Some of it is deserved, and some of it is just plain envy. The fact is that every government and social hierarchy in every country is corrupt to some extent. Corruption and greed is rampant in this world, among other less desirable qualities. Once you add a fanatical religious hatred to the mix, you end up with those that just want to hurt people for the sake of hatred through terror.

This world is coming to a climax of smaller wars turning into something bigger, and its possibly not far off. These attack will be more frequent, and some will be successful. Our government needs and attitude of "walk tall, and carry a big stick" with these fanatics.

Rather than pay to imprison these terrorist, give them a taste of their own medicine. They should load his model plane with the explosives, tie him to a pole in the desert, and fly the plane into him. Only then can he feel the terror that he so willingly wanted to inflict upon others. Then he can go get his 72 virgins, hopefully all male.

That same fate should also face the shooter in Aurora Colorado. Tie him to a pole, and shoot him with an assault rifle till he is swiss cheese.

Sam & Floyd

I agree with you guys !

The country and world are in a very sorry state of affairs . It still might not be to late to turn everything around and set us along with the rest of the world off into the proper direction. In today's world it is the all about me attitude that is killing our country and society . To change the world , first we must change ourselves . But I fear that the powers that be , will not allow this to happen . The quest for money and the exploitation of other countries natural resources is all to strong a drug for them to give up .

bob

moon

Collateral damage has always been a part of war , and always will be !!!!!!

To really understand what is going on and why, one must keep their eye on the prize. That is the control and exploitation of a countries natural resources by corporate America. Modern day warfare is conducted gorilla style ( no front lines ) . That style started with Vietnam . The gorillas do not wear uniforms , they hide among the resident population, and at times wear the uniforms of their countries army . One can not tell the players even with a score card . Forgot !!!! There are NO RULES in that type of a war . So tell me !! How would fight this type of war ???? Terror and Terrorists play a huge part in this type of war . The object is to demoralize your enemy and destroy his will to fight .

Plotinus

Limbaugh should be drawn and quartered !!!! Don't know who Beck is , never heard of them.

bob

Bob,

Well, let's see. There's Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and now even that lunatic congresswoman from Minnesota, Michelle Bachman, that could be added to the list and certainly many more lesser known ones. They should know that amongst the large number of hate-filled idiots in our country that some might be as stupid as this nut Ferdaus is. They probably DO know that and are just hoping to get their jollies off some day.

Plotinus

Well said !!

I believe they do what do for two reasons. 1) To keep the pot boiling and well stirred up. 2) To keep their ratings up so they can get larger raises ( greed ). As for Bachman she empties her head every time she opens her mouth !!!!! I would like to get a piece of her action from insider trading . You are most correct when you implied they pray on the weaker of mind in this country and there for are a danger to the rest of us.

Did we go a little off topic?

I would just like to know what he thought he was going to accomplish. I mean the amount of explosives that thing could carry Isn't that much because it's not like he had weapon grade stuff and with all the security these buildings have now and what they're built to withstand it just seems implausible to think he could cause much damage and destruction. I don't understand how someone can have so much hate built up inside. It's sad.

jdmbo3

Yes we did get a little off topic.

But we were exploring what makes a person or drives a person to do these things. Kind of like the story behind the story if you know what I mean. Sorry about going to far afield.

bob

Kanard,

If you have reading comprehension skills you might find this of interest.

Republican politicians – and the party in general, have been attempting to harness the rhetoric of violence and bigotry. Those who wish to be considered serious and responsible should reject these words of hate, and I would apply that standard equally to the left as to the right. The unfortunate truth is that at the moment, the right wing’s rhetoric of violence far out paces that on the left. The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Department of Homeland Security have issued warnings on the increasing risk of violence from the right. We are seeing that violence come about and those who deny it have begun to take on the character of those who whistle while walking past the graveyard. We have a responsibility as good citizens to steer the rhetoric away from the extremes we are seeing. As Jon Stewart said %

Now having said all that the rest of you guys can get back to your righteous indignation over the foreign rag-head terrorists. I pretty much share many of the same sentiments.

Another ignorant cowardly muslim

Art,

Now don't be playing with model airplanes now. Takes a well functioning brain to be able to control them. There's plenty of hatred on both sides, but much more on the reichside. Nor will you find liberal media even coming close to the hatred being spewed by the likes of Limbaugh. Ed Shultz doesn't even come close.

As posted above, "Department of Homeland Security ..... issued warnings on the increasing risk of violence from the right." This "New Black Panther Party" is probably so infiltrated by moles that they couldn't fart without it being recorded. I really wouldn't be worried about them, even though they also are probably qualified to be called a lunatic fringe.

Gotta go. Have a busy day ahead of me. Have a good day guys.

I see the American haters and traitors are out in force. The only reason we have drones picking off the BAD GUYS is that they vowed to kill Americans. Innocent citizens not soldiers on a battlefield. And when you attempt to kill innocent American citizens then you will pay the price. And most of the world does not hate America, Floyd. You need to get out more. Travel around Asia and Europe and you shall find the truth. Saying this guy is no different than the drones the USA uses to kill people who vow to kill Americans couldn't be further from the truth and is a ficticous statement.

Guys, I hate to pour ice on your hot reasoning. While I disagree vehemently with Limbaugh, Beck and Bachman and their ilk. I do not lump them with this crazy terrorist. I agree that words have consequence because this fellow was following the path of very bad words spoken against America. But I stop short of equating Bachman's stupid dog-whistle politically inspired lunatic pronouncements with someones actions. The desire and action of attempting to use a devise to cause mayhem is the difference.

killing "kafirs," an Arabic term meaning non-believers.

Hmmm, good thing we lean towards TOLERANCE!

They don’t just want to kill Jews and Christians, but ANYONE who doesn’t believe in their false god! That goes for you atheists as well!

There's plenty of hatred on both sides, but much more on the reichside. Nor will you find liberal media even coming close to the hatred being spewed by the likes of Limbaugh.

1st) take note that your "much better than right wing" "mainstream <liberal> media's" first report of the Aurora shooter is that he was a 54 old member of the tea party. When in fact he is a 24 year old with a psychology major pursuing a neuroscience degree. Now that they know he's a "student" the media isn't so interested in enlightening us with his political leanings. These reporting strategies of painting the left in "rays of sunshine" and the right in the "fires of hate" are dishonest.

2nd) The attempts of the left to compare the "right" to the "reich" are also dishonest. The full name of the NAZI party was the National Socialist Party. They were in favor of many forms of socialism that were useful to enriching their power including; eugenics, abortion and gun control.

Collateral damage has always been a part of war , and always will be !!!!!!

Rape, Theft, mayhem, brutalization, torture,destruction of property, and every other despicable act known to man has been a "perk" of war; "War is Hell" is a undisputed truism ... when a human is in engaged combat.

A close friend (A Vietnam vet) said it takes about two weeks to turn a man into a animal in a combat situation ..... it's so true. Armchair quarterbacks that want to talk about war from their position in front of a TV watching the news need a dose of reality.

Today we prosecute soldiers,"warriors" for criminal acts should they commit the acts that were accepted in past conflicts ... the acts are not "collateral damage." When technology comes to a point that a man is ordered control a missile from a computer terminal 6000 miles away and fly through a open window or door, or into a rooftop .... the death that in sue from that IS NOT "collateral damage!" It is a willful act, and should be prosecuted as should torture! If they were falling in your neighborhood you would want it to end at any price ... even if they were targeting ben ladin!

"So Sorry .. We had information that ben ladin was in the house next door ... the death of your family was just "collateral damage" ..

Wiki

The U.S. military's approach to collateral damage

The U.S. military follows a technology based process for estimating and mitigating collateral damage. The software used is known as “FAST-CD” or “Fast Assessment Strike Tool—Collateral Damage."^[12] When followed, this process dramatically reduces the amount of collateral damage in U.S. military operations, and also ensures high levels of political accountability. However, due to the realities of combat operations, the process is not always followed.^[13] The U.S. military’s collateral damage estimation process is intended to ensure that there will be a less than 10 percent probability of serious or lethal wounds to non-combatants.^[13] Less than 1% of pre-planned operations which followed the collateral damage estimation process resulted in collateral damage.^[13] When collateral damage has occurred, 70% of the time it was due to failed “positive identification” of a target, 22% of the time it was attributable to weapons malfunction, and a mere 8% of the time it was attributable to proportionality balancing - e.g. a conscious decision that anticipated military advantage outweighed collateral damage.^[13] According to public statements made by U.S. government officials the President of the United States or the Secretary of Defense must approve any pre-planned ISAF strike where 1 civilian casualty or greater is expected

We are supposed to be the "Good Guys" saving "Freedom & Liberty" not the "Fascist" of the world imposing our will on everyone else in it by creating "Fear from The Skies!"

We are destroying have destroyed our own image ..... worldwide ..

He looks like he could be Obamas son.....just saying...

Can't we just hang him? We're going to spend $$ for 17 years to feed and house him and pay his medical bills. And over the next 17 years in lockup he'll keep building upon his hate for the U.S. We will also have to pay for him to be monitored for the rest of his life. Can we cut our losses now please?

Moonbeam

It makes little or no difference if you put a hell fire missile through a window, a smart bomb down the chimney or an ARTIE round through a wall . Collateral Damage is collateral damage just the same !!! And just what is one suppose to do when the enemy hides in the homes of noncombatants ?????? It is the same problem we faced in NAM !!! As long as you are the subject. What about the London Blitz and all the carpet bombing of Europe during ww11 ????????????????????

When you kill people in the time of war, you are considered a hero. However, when you kill people in peaceful times, you are considered criminal.

War is hell. The problem is there is so many things written to praise war like being "Heroes on the battlefield" or "Glorious battle that will past down for years to come". These are reasons they sugar-coated the act of killing to get more people to do their bidding.

Just another Islamic fascist doing his thing. All his cronies attacking America in comments here have it wrong. You,,, not "the rest of the world" hate America because of it's morality and freedom. "Rich people" have nothing to do with it. Islam is a murder cult bent on political control of the world through torture and killing of it's own and all others to demand control (and of course wealth). Islam is NOT a "religion".When articles like this one fail to describe the 'terrorist' as an Islamic extremist it takes the truth out of the press release. Call an Islamic terrorist an Islamic terrorist.

As has been said and shown time and again, these model planes simply do not have the ability to carry any significant weight and as such, they are not capable of carrying enough explosives to do any real damage. This was a delusional dream from a sick mind that had no real chance of accomplishing much of anything. I am glad that they caught this guy since he may have managed to kill or injure a handful of people, but the idea that he would have done any damage to the Pentagon or the Capitol is a complete joke.

I seriously believe that anyone preaching hatred and violence is responsible somewhat, if not a whole lot, for the actions of those who take their messages to heart. Obviously this is rampant in the world of Islam, and is being preached by way too many of their spiritual leaders. But I would also point out that we have many over here preaching hatred and creating unfounded fears in the hearts of many. Not so much from "spiritual" leaders, unless the likes of Limbaugh consider themselves to be such. But they are obviously trying to portray the president of our United States to be a dangerous threat to us all and are constantly fanning the fires of hatred that they ignite. I am much more worried about the end results of their rhetoric than I am of any terrorist trying to carry bombs in their underwear or shoes or even model airplanes. They are trying their best to split this country in half and are doing a damn good job of it so far. So I guess the rabid reich out there can collapse this post too if they can't stand to hear some truth.

To all the posters who want these criminals immediately drawn and quartered, you forget, that in this country we have rights. It's called due process. Human rights. One of the things that are supposed to make us better than them.

@js, you think it is a joke? I think is is a brain child taking it's baby steps.

while this guy might have had ideas to destroy america from the propaganda he has heard both from his fellow muslims and even right here in the states, he had no real method to initiate any such attack. those model airplanes are not designed to carry any additional weighs beyond maybe a few ounces and even that has to be placed just right or the whole thing is out of balance. to say that he could just load any model plane with 5lbs of explosives and then have it remote gps to the locations is just pure fantasy. the FBI set this guy up after they knew he was being indoctrinated, so they gave this guy an outlandish plot and feed him all the info and supplies he needed, they helped him all they way and arrested him after knowing that at no point did he have any clue what he was doing or how to even carry out the plan the FBI made for him. he would need extensive knowledge in aerodynamics, electronics and programing, build/modify his own plane to even attempt to load 5lbs to fly by gps. it is no easy task to do what the FBI is saying he was trying to do.

the FBI set all this up so they could parade this guy around and so they could look like they are nabbing muslim terrorists on our own soil. at no point did this guy come up with the idea to use model airplanes to commit terrorists acts, that was the FBI's plan to use against him. he was, however, brainwashed by jihad so the FBI just speed things along with entrapment. must be nice when all you have is thought and here comes the FBI to help you along and arrest you after. technically he never committed a crime until the FBI aided and abetted this guy with intel and materials.

the left is no better than the right and both parties indoctrinate their followers and until we as US citizens can shed this corrupt 2 party system, we will never be free.

division is the tool of the corrupt to fool the masses into believing anything.

@Bob1/28
Guerrilla tactics in warfare, in the US, began with the American Indians. They were kicking our butts, had we not strength in numbers and arms we would be speaking a very different language today.

During the Revolutionary War we used the tactics on the English with great success.

This guy was really a doofus. It is not possible to pack such a model plane with enough explosives to do much damage. The best he could have hoped for was to fly it into the window of some office and cause some damage to it - assuming that he had the skill to do so, and that he could set off the explossive - pretty unlikely.

Well, he coulda blown-up the vending machine in the break room.

Subject: False God?
Name: Dr. Ali

Message:
Your comment you left is very naive. Islam is an Abrahamic religion based on both the old and new testament and includes all the prophets in the bible including Jesus. Are you calling the diety of Jews, Christians, and Muslims a false God?

Sorry Ali, I’m not the naïve one. The Lord Jesus Christ is not allah. I understand that Abraham was the father of both Ishmael and Isaac which is the true source of muslims fighting Jews for what they feel is their rightful inheritance as the first born, HOWEVER, God promised Israel to ISAAC, His CHOSEN one….not to say that God didn’t also feel sorry for Ishmael and also blessed him, but they turned their backs on God and worshipped false gods, which is why they no longer have his blessing.

God promised Abraham and Sarah (NOT HAGAR) an heir who would bless all nations and raise up a mighty people who would spread love, faith and hope around the world, this certainly doesn’t describe the muslims or islam.

This feud of jealousy and resentment has continuously set off wars and atrocities for 4000 years! It is that title deed to the land of Israel, which God promised to Abraham’s lineage that has been the source of friction between the Jews and Arabs.

Muslims believe Jews changed and distorted the Bible in order to establish themselves as the heirs of Abraham’s Covenant blessings, however, they fail to explain how the New Testament, written by Christians who had no motive for following Jewish falsifications clearly teaches that the Covenants were made to Isaac and HIS descendants.

God’s words to Abraham in Genesis are some 2500 years older than the creation of Islam.

“Sarah your wife shall bear you a son and you shall call him Isaac and I will establish a covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. Genesis 17: 19-21

The very basis of islam, is that God’s true covenant was with Ishmael rather than Isaac is based on a lie! If they don’t believe in God, why do they bother?

Swagganaut,

Now I consider your post to be one of the best insights on this issue yet. A very common practise amongst our police forces at all levels. Maybe job security in showing the public they're protecting us. Also that they are not so much at personal risk when they know they have an idiot under their control. But it is probably a great idea to get these types of nuts off the streets. If they didn't lead him by the nose the possibility is that a real terrorist organization would.

Jessie-294785 "He should have to face a firing squad..." Funny, that's the same thing I thought about "Dubya" when he deserted the miltary in time of war (Viet Nam). Oh, well, here in America, money doesn't talk, it screams.

I think, from the looks of him, the guy could use a shave... and a brain implant.

When that day comes you'll be gone too.

No he won't. He doesn't believe in the rapture. (cough cough...)

MJ: ---Not only are there "True Believers," but there are also "True Unbelievers." Men and women who proudly wear their atheism on their shoulders and are as fanatical and as intolerant about it as any of the extremist "Believers" whom they hate and constantly criticize.

Yeah getting rid of religion will rid us of all the looney's right? Like the atheists Hitler, Jack the ripper, Vlad the Impaler, Ghengis Khan, those that even if some of them followed some religious traditions, it wasn't due to their personal beliefs, which didn't exist. Trying to put all the blame on religion is just as discriminating as racism, or being sexist. The same person that is discriminating against religion would probably have been a good slave owner too. Believing your better than others is the same no matter what the excuse is.

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." Adolf Hitler April 12, 1922

religion is not the problem it is how some on all sides interpret it. I for one try to live peacefully in honor to my lord and savior Jesus Christ I don't push my faith on others but I do try to lead by example. Maybe if we all put the blame where it belongs, with the perpetrators we would be better served.

You would do well to hold those within your faith accountable to the concepts Jesus preached....things like compassion, tolerance, charity, and forgiveness are seen as weakness by so many who profess "a personal relationship with Jesus". Makes me wonder how such an obvious message could be so adulterated by those who wear their religion on their sleeves. But what else can you expect from those many rightwing christians who continue to advocate capital punishment, the very concept that made the crucifiction of their supposed "Lord and Savior" legal?

again HITLER WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN!!! how many freaking times do people need to repeat this. just because someone calls themselves whatever or says whatever does not mean they are who they are. ITS CALLED LYING!! hitler was never a christian, he used the CATHOLIC church to gain support for his power and he also used islam to kill jews and christians alike. NAZI= national socialist party, nothing christian about that.

if i told you i was the reincarnate of jesus, would you believe me? why not? i said i was, isnt that enough proof? if i said im the richest guy in the world would you believe me? why not? i said i was, isnt that good enough for ya? seems to be good enough for you to believe hitler was christian even though everything he did was against everything christ stood for but hey i guess because he used some religious words that he must be religious.

countless tyrannical leaders have used peoples beliefs against them regardless of their own personal beliefs. people with a power complex will always find ways to gain power even if that means lying and killing.

Hitler certainly wasn't an atheist. Don't lump all atheist into the same bin as Hitler or whoever else you want to throw in. There's plenty of immorality in the bible. I for one wouldn't murder children to make a point with a pharaoh...

Same here. Religions is such a divisive thing! Terrible that some people think that they have the answers to life and want everyone to agree with them. It only leads to conflict and violence....

Sounds like me. Too many books.

"Religion" is one among a thousand reasons to hate one another. People would still have reason to hate and kill one another without religion. "Power and control" comes in all forms.

Why are you in this Country? We believe in freedom of religion,,, even your personal trip. You are welcome to go back to your ungodly country if you please.

He is not you your stupid country, moron

@ Mike-2594304

Your racist is showing.

As you said, this is "freedom of religion", so keep your religions out of my life. How many bills tailor to religions? Too many to count.

There are lots of reason why people do something, but religions are often the motivation. They hide behind their gods, used god as an excuse to do something.

Look at the presidential candidates "God told me to run for the president" from 3 candidates. Doesn't sound like "freedom of religion" to me if you have to use god as an excuse line or something to your advantages.

Edit: I have been in US for more than 15 years and in case you didn't know, there are religions in my country as well, so to say "ungodly" countries sound really stupid on your part. This is my country as much as your, use your brain next time.

I think that atheists managed to kill more people in the 20th. century alone than all the religious wars waged by Muslims and Christians in their entire histories. Granted, there are more people to kill with easier ways of killing them these days, but still...

@Bleh2234

Oh please, it all starts with religious as start up point and the primary reason is racism.

Let's also not forget the Vatican support these actions as well.

You can blame atheist all you like, but atheist is simply an idea, it's not a faith or a religious organization, it's not a belief either.

Cuong,

Atheism basically is the choice to not believe anything that cannot be proven, and to choose not to live their life in "faith". It only stands out when put into contrast with "religions", but it is not a religion.

Just saying the Communists managed to kill over 100 million people in the 20th. century. Some of the people were killed for not being atheist. Just seems to me that people can find any excuse to kill each other.

Well, according to the Bible, your God was responsible for a couple of mass extinctions, so I hardly think the Communists are alone in this department.

And your point?

My point is simply this: Don't whine about the communists when your God is responsible for much more misery.

Well, that's a matter of debate. I was just saying that it's silly to want to eradicate religion when it is clear that humanity is still capable of terrible acts without it.

I'm not suggesting that religion be "eradicated" - lots of people depend on their religious beliefs for meaning in their lives; I see nothing wrong with that. But don't claim that all terrible acts without it. Jimmy Jones comes to mind. And of course, more recently, there was the murderer in Norway.

You are right that usually men are the ones carrying out the act; however, just last week, in London, 6 people were arrested for planning terrorist attacks. One was a female! Further, in Israel, women are involved in Jihad as well as men. I believe in western countries women are involved on a smaller, discreet scale helping behind the scenes including moving money to the cause by supporting their brothers,fathers,cousins, uncles etc in other ways. Moreover, ideological and emotional supporters are just as guilty and should be held accountable.

Women are just as mean but a lot smarter and don't get caught.

How dumb can these people get. This dude has never held a model aircraft in his hand and he is going to start with the F-86 jet. He would have probably crashed the damn thing within 10 feet of himself and joined all the other virgin seekers in paradise.

Yeah, a ducted-fan jet is a seriously poor choice as a first plane. It's going to be fast and light. It would be hard to hit a small target and even if it did it couldn't carry much explosive. He may have had five pounds of PE, but if he put even one pound on a plane like that it would never get airborne.

He should have started with something like a Super Cub LP, which can carry more weight, is easier to fly for a beginner, and flies slow enough to hit a target reliably. Even then, it wouldn't have blown up a building. More likely it would have made a big burn mark and that's it. The whole idea is so silly.

I don't think that is a DF jet, I believe it is a turbine. Would be very hard pressed to stuff enough explosives in that thing to do much good and still be able to carry enough fuel to get it somewhere without having to lauch it pretty close to the site. The GPS technology to fly would also require some room. I have some of these jets and you are pretty tight for space with the just the necessities to get it in the air, much less carry something with much destructive force. If he had never flown one before he sure picked a hard one to learn on. His plot was foiled from the beginning, but then again these guys, much like Richard the Shoebomber, do not tend to be the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Since this "plot" was being put together by our own police, do you really think they would have offered him a real choice of planes? Methinks they wanted to make sure it was a no-go situation from the beginning.

"Stop letting muslims immigrate into 'kafir' lands"

The red Indians didn't want you here either. An ideology that prefers a group over all others is inherently evil and that includes Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism and any other new invented faith. Faith means believe without proof even if the belief contradicts logic; such as "the man who died on the cross is God", or "Mohammed - a mass murderer who claims he rode on a horse with wings has received the Koran from God", or "Abraham who screwed the maid then left her in the middle of the dessert with her new born son is a pious man and messenger of God", etc.

Adam-1965341 - Very well said ! And thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy.

Brilliant, let's keep making the same mistake the Indians made. We dont want to be called hypocrit.

Adam are you supporting of opposing Kristina argument?

When settelers came to America their goal was not to rob the indians of their religeon and/or kill them all, muslims on the other hand want to do just that to the entire world if the world is not willing to convert to their beliefs. Are you astute enough to ferret out the difference....duh ????

Adam: can't change the past. But the present and future can be improved. In this case by decreasing our risk from Muslims.

As I said before, the Aurora shooter is almost undoubtedly schizophrenic.

The Indian thing vs white settlers is bogus when presented this way. This is history based on movies. Although cruel and bigoted actions against them are in no way justified, the truth is that most of them were wiped out by diseases that they had no immunity against and at that time cultural groups were much more against other different groups no matter which one you are talking about. The Europeans and their descendants had the power and organization that tribal people didn't. However if you look at tribal warfare they usually try to wipe out the adversary with a 90% death rate on the losing side not uncommon. The Indian tribes that were present when the white men arrived were the decendents of the winners. They had wiped out earlier tribes such as the Anasazi that were there before them. So this whole thing is about how far back you go, not just the history we recorded of ourselves, as to who is the "native" and who is the "foreigner." Not trying to justify what happened, just show that it is not so simple, and that this idea of the Indians as just peaceful victims is romantic idealism. Sorry to get so far off topic but can not let some of these comments go that are so simple minded.

The native americans had life expectancy of about 39 yrs. STDs wiped most of them out early. They had not observed nature enough to see that cats of all kinds bury their poop. They were nomads because they could not stand the smell of their encampments. Open human waste piles next to rivers gave them lots of diseases. You cannot blame that on 'the white settlers'. Remember, Kennewick man was of nordic ancestry!

Mike... WE, the white man, brought the diseases here, you moron! Do you practice being stupid or does it just come naturally?

Sam, WE, the white man, didn't have any knowledge of germs causing disease or that there could be populations never exposed to those diseases with no immunity. You can't blame the people then and they didn't plan to kill the Indians with disease.

THIS IS DIFFERENT. The Muslims PLAN to kill us with bombs.

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Popeye Kahn, I was thinking the same thing. Put a wrap on that ugly head a you have a terroist.

put a baseball hat on the guy that shot up the theatre and you have a white, american terrorist.

James Holmes didnt have a towel on his head. Neither did McVey.

Both of them thinking with a child brain: James Holmes and this guy are not very clever. Tim McVey was different however. But Tims' bearings were way out of line. Tim was part of a vile community as what the two lone guys concerned they acted on their own.

All of them idiots having fun blowing things up.

You guys left out Charles Manson, who tried to build a new religion based on his brand of terrorism. Too bad that Mohamad did not also fail.

Mike... Tsk, tsk Before you go off on Muslims and Mohammed, learn how to spell, okay? Your prejudice is only outweighed by your bias and your ignorance.

For a land of the free, there are many many prisoners, more wars than you can count abroad and selling arms and supporting many dictators outside of the land of the free. And that is just for starters.

For the record: I am not anti-USA. I am just pointing out you live in a fairytale-bubble of gigantic proportions if you believe there is only freedom and prosperity in the USA. Also it is weird you cannot fathom why people dislike the USA. Reality is not one of your strongpoints, is it?

But I prefer the USA over any muslimruled country, as I am from a western country myself: The Netherlands. A true country of the free. Gay-marriage, few prisoners, legalized weed-use, freedom of religion: more than USA. More democracy: one man, one vote. No registration as partymember needed to vote, because being a citizen suffices. You get invited by the government to vote, its not an obligation. Abortion is legalized: less abortions pro capita than in many if not all USA-parts. Healthcare for all. Almost forgot the euthanasia. Not even close to the numbers in the USA. And its all legal. You see the point? Make it legal and there is less demand. Give more education and there is less repression, less deaths and more freedom of choice.

I'd be interested in your explaination as to why you stated the following: "More democracy: one man, one vote. No registration as partymember needed to vote, because being a citizen suffices. You get invited by the government to vote, its not an obligation."

Yevrah Kahn... To send us all back to the countries we came from, the majority of us would have to leave 'cause, WE'RE ALL IMMIGRANTS HERE, PILGRIM!

we you get your ideas from? do you even know what is "communist"?

read something, if you can

mr. harley... does it hurt your ears when you try to pull your head out?

how bout u? i think should be attached

Rangewolf... Even paranoids have real enemies. Are you suggesting we send PRESIDENT Obama back to Chicago? It sounds as if you have a problem with a Black Man In the White House. Grow up.

Sam

It does seem ironic that a radical Muslim believes he is entitled to take residence in our White House, doesn't it? A president of OUR country is suppose to be committed to OUR country. Obama has done everything in his power to destroy our country before he was elected.

If you want to make a racial issue out of this fine, the problem is in your cage.

Poor Rangewolf - right wing lunacy has no cure.

In prison he will meet up with Bubba..... who likes the furry face sweetboys too.........;)

How 'bout Barry Borrock Hussein Soetoro Osama / William Ayers 2012. The true libatard values' candidates?

mr.harley-4656980... How 'bout you shut shut your bigoted, prejudiced, un-informed, ignorant pie hole?

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill

His parents immigrated from Bangladesh. America is evil? Remember the concert for Bangladesh that raised many millions of dollars to save starving children there? I'd wager that the bulk of those dollars came from American citizens! We are a huge, complex nation, some of what we do as a country could certainly be defined as evil but our generosity toward the rest of the world is unparallelled by ANY other nation on earth.

Who will send funds the next time there is a concert to raise money for starving children, who will send money and aid after the next large scale natural disaster when America is no more? The rest of the world had better wake up and recognize what is at risk!

Well... we agree on those two paragraphs but not much else.

Just as with Pearl Harbor or the Sinking of the Lusitania, there were plenty of warnings prior to the actual attack. The warnings were ignored or not taken seriously.

What do you think the FBI was doing with this guy? Answer: Taking the warnings seriously. Go FBI!!

Sammy,

Don't care if you agree, my opinions are my own.

Another pointless comparison!

I agree with Highway Star. People love to throw that one out over and over.

Did you read the same article that I did? It said that he went to JIHADIST websites and that is where he cultivated his hate and irrational logic about the country that he was born and raised in. No one is giving excuses except his lawyers, who are doing the JOB they were hired to do.

That said, since he is an American citizen then he should have been tried and convicted for TREASON and that carries the death penalty. Too often in the last 12 years we have, given prison sentences to American citizens who are trying to commit TREASON against this country and instead of doing what we should be doing we are being too lenient.

The other thing that needs to be looked at and dealt with is that those who have family members that do things like this need to know that all of their family will be shipped back to whatever country that they came from. Yes i know that this would not be fair tho the ones that were born here, but dammit they need to understand that they are going to lose something very precious if they do NOT reign in the family nutjobs. If they can ban people from low income housing because of one family member that is a terror to the rest of the residents, then we can do the same with people that have been allowed into this country. I am tired of hearing about people like this, they think they are so clever and what they are is STUPID.

Pray Hard, please go back to praying and maybe you will find some forgiveness for you broad brushing of everyone that does NOT believe as you do. Sorry but You are not always right!!!!

Actually, you raise a very valid point. Why are these people not charged with treason?

Holder won't charge them with treason as a result of all of the Muslim Brotherhood meeting that occur at the WH....hello.....

Agreed. When are we going to start executing those convicted of treason?

art-2065319, why Holder, not Ron Paul? You forget so soon.

Art,

Listen to Bachman much? Now there's someone fomenting terrorism, and we actually have voters dumb enough to elect someone like her.