Miss Abbey:

Hopefully found alive, but with "harm". It is some nutcase. No one takes 2 girls, and doesn't do something to their psyche, or harm them in an intimate way.

Remember the kidnapping of the Eilzabeth Smart in Utah, and other similar abductions. The Duggar girl? in CA.

Miss Abbey:

Jayce Lee Dugard of California; kidnapped for years. Sorry for the mistake of name.

Something strange that they would have details, they also have two iffy parents, hope it is resolved soon and the little cuties are found

Iffy parents? Little cuties? Hmmm . . . strange commentary.

Coop~ Not really. Those two kids are cuties, and the parents are a tad suspect in some instances so "iffy" is a good word to describe it. I hope they are found unharmed both physically and mentally. If there's hope that they are alive I hope everyone clings to it.

Sorry for repeating myself.

LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!! WTF.

Only a completely spineless, low life, cowardly bastard would ever hurt, mistreat or abuse a defenceless child. You can never hide, at least not for long. I, would take great pleasure in opening a case of whoop-ass just for you.

I forgot to add, Hell have no fury as a parent scorned!!!

I can't wait to watch all those folks with the 'iffy' parent comments eat their words when these girls are found with a complete stranger who is wholly unknown to the family. For the last few days all I've seen is people on Newsvine giving their expert opinions on each interview the parents have appeared in. Informing us that their reactions are not the norm, they act suspicious, etc etc. So many of you eager to "try 'em and fry 'em" and pretty much ruin their lives regardless.

If in the end I'm wrong and the parents were involved, then I will be back to admit it. But if I'm right, will you?

The post is saying, the parents have a bad past, thats why they are "IFFY" parents. Doesnt mean they are guilty in the childrens disaperance.

Chris and James hopefully you are correct and the parents have nothing to do with their disapperance, but watch Lyric's mom on Nancy Grace. She showed absoultly no emotion whatsoever. She seemed like she was giving a commentary on a book she had read or a show she had seen that bored her complelty. Weirdest thing I have seen in a very long time. I can tell you, heaven forbid, if someone snatched one of my children I would be beside myself. She actually showed less emotion then some of the reporters on the scene. Very odd

Chris~ The people on here saying "Iffy" means just that, they are iffy. It doesn't mean I think they are automatically guilty and neither do I think that's what Lusitania meant. Stop reading things that aren't there. Are you going to come back now and admit you where wrong in judging me?

A lot of times parents are given valium to calm them down in these types of situations. That would explain the lack of emotion.

Judge not least ye be judged. Can't we stop all the hate and total crap and pray for these children?

Are you going to come back now and admit you where wrong in judging me?

No because you are still casting suspicion on the parents without evidence of guilt other than your 'iffy' feeling. Neither of us are qualified psychologists and able to analyze their reactions for guilt or innocence. No have I seen any of these shows have an expert come on to tell us he/she thinks they are involved either.

That's what I thought.

There are people out there that are iffy, something about their character, something about the way they carry themselves.... Doesn't mean you are making a rash judgement, doesn't mean you can say for certain that they are creeps, doesn't even mean they are guilty of something, it just means that you feel like something is off. You don't have to be a psychologist to say a person seems iffy and you may even be wrong about it but that doesn't mean I'm going to invite them to dinner.

Regardless of what your opinion is, it looks like when push comes to shove you still judge and are unwilling to admit you where wrong in judging others, since I have yet to say whether I think they are guilty or not.

~Cheers

Regardless of what your opinion is, it looks like when push comes to shove you still judge and are unwilling to admit you where wrong in judging others, since I have yet to say whether I think they are guilty or not.

You haven't said anything yet that requires me to admit I was right or wrong concerning the fact I think it's inappropriate that you consider these parents a "tad suspect". You said it, I don't agree with it, there is nowhere in there where I need to be sorry for not liking your remark.

I will admit that now I am judging you on the basis of how quickly you were to become defensive when your prior comment was criticized. If you can't handle a critique of your comments, then don't invite them by posting.

It would appear to me you are doing exactly what Lyrica states...not to mention condescending in your attitude. You need to understand what the word "iffy" means and implies. Stop the bickering and just pray for these 2 girls to be safe and sound.

Chris~ I never said you needed to be sorry for not liking my remark. It's your opinion and I respect that. I asked if you where willing to admit you where wrong in misjudging me since I never said I thought they where guilty. So again, you read things that aren't there and judge based off it. You can critique my comments all you like, at least get it right.

missp~ You're right, it's pointless to argue (bicker) with a person who is bound and determined to cast stones in glass houses. I hope these two girls are brought back safe and sound. That's a stand I will keep, the rest isn't worth the effort.

I am with you hoping and praying they are found safe and back home in no time. Seriously hope the FBI arent giving the family false hope in saying they believe they are alive. I mean how can they really make that statement? Even they had been kidnapped and the kidnappers were demanding a ransom for their return, yes the FBI would know that information, but they still would not be sure the girls were still alive. The whole situation is just really bizarre

For all we know if there was a ransom maybe they spoke to the girls...they generally want proof of life in the case of ransom. However if they believe the girls are alive and the parents are being watched, as iffy as they seem I am inclined to think the parents have no knowledge of it. After days of the stress the body shuts down and the emotions become void ..its survival mode. It could be due to the past of the parents or related to absolutely nothing. I would like to believe the parents are innocent as there must be a special hell for parents who harm there children.

You are right GraceANNE, everything that you read in the news is depressing these days. According to what one of the investigators said, they want to keep a closer eye to one of the girl's father whose out on bond for drug charges. You never know.

I had a sneaky suspicion it had something to do with a family member. Oh i really hope its good news though. I mean they seem pretty confident. They should just go get the girls if they know they are alive and well. I know its probably not as easy as it sounds. Im keeping my fingers crossed and putting my faith into the authorities to bring them home safely. Thanks Mandy for the additional information - i hadnt heard about the father out on bond. :)

being out on bond for drug charges does not mean this man is guilty of anything. He has not been convicted of the charges, and even if he is, that doesn't make him a child abductor. You people have vivid imaginations for sure.

@GraceANNE

Did you not even read the article before commenting on it??? Right there in paragraph ~9 it says, "Abben also confirmed that investigators had asked a judge to compel Lyric's father, 36-year-old Daniel Morrissey, who faces drug charges but is free on bond, to submit to closer watch by parole officers pending his trial."

It's getting really annoying (almost as annoying as ppl that use the comment section to push their religious and/or political beliefs) to read the comments and find ppl posting that haven't even bothered to read the article that they are attached to.

Coop-2306198

being out on bond for drug charges does not mean this man is guilty of anything. He has not been convicted of the charges, and even if he is, that doesn't make him a child abductor. You people have vivid imaginations for sure.

The man "stopped cooperating" with investigators. There's that red flag. If he's got nothing to hide, why stop cooperating? Druggies are not people with credibility when crimes are concerned. They'll do anything to get what they want.

I believe that I read one of the fathers is up on drug charges and the daughter was a witness. I read this in an article yesterday or day before.

Wow! That's not good. Were prosecutors going to use the daughter's witness testimony against the father?

I tried to find the article in my history but no luck, I believe that it was against the father.

Thanks garbageman. Very interesting if indeed she was a witness.

I have to agree, they wasted so much time draining that stupid lake when all they had to go on was that the girls' bikes were next to it.

When they didn't find the girls' socks and shoes I felt they had not drowned either. It is a shame an Amber alert could not have been issued sooner. Hopefully the security camera footage will give clues regarding the abductor/abductors.

Gracie what security camera footage would that be?

rjh4509 - I read an article (yesterday, maybe) that said in order to use the enhanced sonar (FBI's equipment) there had to be 6 feet or less of water in the lake. I may be mis-remembering that, but I'm pretty sure that's correct.

The actual footage has not been released as far as I know, but it is being reported there is security camera evidence.

"There also is security camera evidence of the girls about 12:15 p.m. July 13, the last day the girls were seen. The camera shows them in the area where their grandmother said she last saw them, in an alley on Lafayette Road."

Sorry. I keep trying to post the link to the security camera info and it won't let me. Try putting www in front of this: kcrg.com/news/local/Authorities-Missing-Girls-Abducted-163227316. html

Sorry to hear about your sister janey54, it could be that the girls been abducted by some nutcases drug dealers the parents made a bad deal, now these girls are paying for it. I hope they find alive and they return home safe.

Janey, that's what I was thinking, "drug deal gone bad".

Completely agree--yet many of the forum posters on that article were talking about how a parent who allows her 10 year old to watch law and order (which is where she said she learned what to do the article said) must be horrible, that isn't appropriate, etc.

Yet she learned how to defend herself. She saved her and possibly her brother's life--so obviously Momma isn't doing too bad after all!

We raise our kids in a bubble then wonder why no one knows how to defend themselves..we are so scared of a kid seeing a little violence that we completely neglect to teach them that it can happen to them, and what to do if it does.

Remember these girls were taken on an isolated, empty path with no surveilance cameras. Not sure that would have helped these girls. With that being said, I feel that there is nothing wrong with these girls out riding their bikes together.

Many of know about these satellites, but the government can't acknowledge them. Do you have any idea how many people would be screaming, (mostly criminals), about government spying?

Your government already knows everything about you including every dollar your spend, where you are every day and with whom you communicate. So much for living in a free country.

The situation now is that most Americans are almost eager to accept abnormal conduct as normal conduct. I know this may come as a big surprise to most Americans, but there are countries, in the world, where children, of any age, can walk to school, either as individuals or in gropups of two or more, with the expectations that they are not in danger of being kidnapped or killed. There are countries, in the world, where freedom includes privacy, without a threat to safety.

Here is a fact check: America leads the developed world in the number of divorces, the number of abortions, the number of murders, the number of mass killings, the number of school shootings, the number of prison inmates, the number of violent crimes, the number gun crimes, the number of high school dropouts, the number of gun owners, the amount of money spent on war, the number of countries invaded, the number of men, women and children killed by its military and at the same time, it leads the developed world in the number of people who claim that their country is free and peaceful.

Dear AllenL, you state all of this information as facts, but yet you offer no proof. Stop ragging on America. God bless the USA and her people and our troops who protect our liberties!

Gracie; I love my USA but numbers that Allan is citing are not that far off. Kinda creepy.

Allan: Also the largest number of druggies. Maybe that's what raises the other numbers.

Na69Mach1, Allen cited no numbers. He simply said "the numbers".... In 2011, Anders Behring Breivik, a Norwegian, killed 77 people and injured 319 more in a bombing and shooting rampage in Oslo and on Utoya Island. In June at a mall in Canada a gunman killed 1 and injured 7. 2008 Mumbai attack in India -185 killed. 2006 Mumbai train bombings in India - 207 killed. 2005 London bombings in the UK -52 killed. 2004 Beslan school crisis in Russia 344 killed. And really you should thank God or whomever you worship you don't live in Syria right now. America has her problems, but evil is everywhere and to think otherwise is to lull yourself into a false sense of security.

Gracie--thanks for the comment about the troops. My Soldier will be home next month - havent seen him in three yrs. even though this isnt related to this case regarding the missing girls

To Allen-- You can always exercise your right to leave this country if you think it is so terrible. I'm sure Iran or Zimbabwe would welcome you.

Thank you Azlandowner and Your Soldier and his service to our great country. Your Soldier and the people like you are the backbone of our great country and nothing can really repay his most honorable service. Again, my most humble thanks to Your Soldier and you for your sacrifice. My apologies for straying from the topic at hand.

In updated news, kgan.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/kgan_vid_12072.shtml (add www. to the link) has released the surveillance camera video of the girls on their bikes. It's very grainy. Hard to tell whom is riding the bicycles, but I assume the grandmother has ID'd them and the bikes. LE also took Misty Morrisey's car and cellphone and have been sent to the state crime lab in Ackeny. LE also announced that more check points are going to be set up and house-to-house checks are likely to happen. Praying with all my heart these two young girls are found alive and unharmed.

That was my thought too! And maybe they thought they could arrange it so they could get the reward money too. People are crazy... nothing would surprise me.

The media sensationalism of this story is disgusting. Reporting it is one thing, but these people are setting up specials and interviews with family members of the victims and friends of the killer who knew him. Dear media professionals, out of respect for human life, can you please wait until rigor has set in before shoving a camera in someone's face?!

Walking a half a block away should be safe for a 10 year old. I can't imagine making kids so scared that they can't function in the world.

it is 50000

Okay. Thanks! I was just going by what is on the missing poster in this article. You are correct. The reward is $50,000.

MSNBC should really update their article, but then again they are infamous for not being the best news outlet for correcting/updating information.

I happen to believe drugs may very well be involved. Phillip Garrido who abducted Jaycee Dugard was a drug addict. Richard Allen Davis was on a drug-fueled binge when he abducted and murdered Polly Klaas in 1993. Habitual addict, Joseph Smith, abducted and brutally murdered Carlie Brucia in 2004. Sadly, I could go on....