Report: 21 treated for burns in 'firewalk' during Robbins motivational seminar

Nearly two dozen people were treated for burns on their feet after walking on hot coals during a motivational seminar conducted by self-help expert Tony Robbins in San Jose, California, local media reported.

Firefighters treated at least 21 people for burns to the soles of their feet, several of them second- and third-degree, on Thursday night, according to a report in the San Jose Mercury News. At least three people went to the hospital, although none of the injuries was life-threatening, the report added.


It was the first night of the motivational seminar called "Unleash the Power Within," a four-day Robbins event attended by some 6,000 people, the Mercury News reported.

Close to midnight after the main part of the event, participants walked to a park where 12 lanes of hot coals measuring 10 feet by two-and-a-half feet lay on the grass, the newspaper reported. 

"I heard wails of pain, screams of agony," one of the attendees, Jonathan Correll, 25, told the Mercury News. 

One woman seemed to be in so much pain "it was horrific," he added. 

"It was people seriously hurting, like they were being tortured," the newspaper quoted Correll as saying. "First one person, then a couple minutes later another one, and there was just a line of people walking on that fire. It was just bizarre, man."

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Robbins could not be reached on Saturday through his media contacts.

Conquering fears?
In a written statement reported in the Mercury News, Robbins Research International defended the "firewalk," a regular part of the Unleash seminar.

"We have been safely providing this experience for more than three decades, and always under the supervision of medical personnel ... We continue to work with local fire and emergency personnel to ensure this event is always done in the safest way possible."'

Indeed, others who walked on hot coals said the experience was extraordinary.

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"Overcoming something like that, it's a breakthrough," Henry Guasch, 19, told the Mercury News. Guasch added that he got a minor burn when he slowed his pace in the middle of the field. 

Guasch and another participant, Andrew Brenner, told the newspaper that faith and concentration were the keys to not getting singed.

The firewalk is presented on Robbins' website as a way to conquer fears and "other fires in your life" by walking across a bed of coals heated up to 2,000 degrees. It is not a requirement of the seminar.

Nevertheless, the San Jose Fire Department did not recommend people engage in the activity, Capt. Reggie Williams told the Mercury News.

"We discourage people from walking over hot coals," Williams said.

It was unclear how many people participated in the firewalk.

Considered one of the world's most successful self-help experts for nearly three decades, Robbins oversees an empire of self-empowerment seminars, books and tapes, life coaching and motivational presentations.

Inspirational speaker and best-selling author Tony Robbins offers advice for dealing with some of the toughest setbacks Americans are facing, including the crisis in the Gulf region and the economic crunch.

 

Reuters contributed to this report. 

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It obviously it didn't turn out the way things were planned. I hope they all make a swift recovery. In light of this, will Robbins change anything in his motivation presentation? Or is this simply a matter of people just not having enough "faith in him?"

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#1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:26 AM EDT

Wasn't this guy some kind of regular on Oprah? There was that other Oprah approved "self-help guru" where people died of asphyxiation in his sweat lodge.

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#1.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:42 AM EDT

Was he? Thanks for putting Oprah in this!

    #1.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

    RevSpinnaker: No, this is not the "Oprah guru" who killed people in that Sedona sweatlodge.

    This is another charlatan. "Oh, you got burned because you didn't have enough faith."

    BS.

    Tony Robbins, the 1970s called and they want their stupidity back.

    • 32 votes
    #1.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

    Not getting burnt is dependent on the thickness of the ash layer, thickness of the coal bed, being light on your feet and keeping moving. So you only need faith that the idiots setting up this trick let things burn down enough and set it up properly so you can foolishly, gingerly walk across it.

    Let's return to trial by ordeal where people hold glowing rods of iron with their bare hands and then judge the parties by whether Dog allows them to heal up without dying of infection.

    • 17 votes
    #1.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

    How in the world did they keep the wool from catching on fire?

    • 15 votes
    #1.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

    Robbins is nothing more than a charlatan and I can not believe that people pay this idiot for anything, let alone walk across hot coals on his say so. This guy is just conning people out of their money with his charismatic BS presentations. You do not need to go listen to this idiot speak or buy any of his self help garbage to be sucessful, you just need to believe in yourself.

    • 26 votes
    #1.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

    If you feel motivated and want to "learn" something stick your hand into the barbecue, unless, you have already taken "Heat 101.

    • 4 votes
    #1.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

    Not enough faith.

    • 1 vote
    #1.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

    Idiots......complete idiots. Were these people going to kiss rattle snakes afterwards?

    • 13 votes
    #1.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

    Motivational speaker?

    How '80s.

    Smells of Scientology.

    • 7 votes
    #1.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

    What I don't understand is, after the people ahead of you are screaming and in pain, WHY anyone would follow suit anyhow?

    If you see that going on first hand (and, assuming it isn't supposed to be like that) would YOU carry through with it? Also, why didn't this Robbins put a stop to this when he saw that things weren't going according to plan? And speaking of suits: I wonder what his liability in this is going to be if the burn victims (and I say 'victims' loosely) decide to SUE him?

    • 8 votes
    #1.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

    Nevertheless, the San Jose Fire Department did not recommend people engage in the activity, Capt. Reggie Williams told the Mercury News.

    "We discourage people from walking over hot coals," Williams said.

    I'm with Cap'm Reggie on this one;-)

    Son, don't smoke in bed, never drink alone, and avoid walking on really hot @!$%#!

    RIP Mom!

    • 5 votes
    #1.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

    Where did Robbins leave his shoes? He must have been walking across the coals too, right? Oh, I forgot, he's the con man, the fire walkers are the shills. When I was working the management always had some "motivational experts" come in to give us talks and do various silly exercises. Most of us (actually almost all) saw this as a waste of our time and the management's money. They keep presenting the same tired old crap every time and the only one's motivated are them - motivated by easy cash.

    • 7 votes
    #1.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

    Not enough faith.

    Not enough common sense.

    • 7 votes
    #1.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:45 PM EDT

    This guy looks like a Neanderthal and acts like one too, Why do people continually fall for this kind of crap?

    • 1 vote
    #1.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

    Faith is belief in something that there is no rational reason to believe in.

    If done correctly there is a reason you can walk on the coals and not get burned. It's all about heat transfer.

    This is about trust and they got burned.

    • 2 votes
    #1.16 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

    Bill

    I have always wanted to go to one of those 'team-building' conferences and volunteer to be the person who catches the speaker as they demonstrate putting your trust in others by falling backward and trusting the person to catch you. I want to take a step back and let them fall to the ground and then look down on their confused face and say "Why the heck would you trust someone you don't know?!?!?" But that's just me.

    • 5 votes
    #1.17 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

    I didn't say this originally but to paraphrase, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. That fact that this guy could get six thousand people, six thousand!!! to pay for this garbage is astounding.

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    #1.18 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

    Walking on coals is a simple parlor trick. It has nothing to do with faith, willpower, belief, or whatever. As one poster already pointed out, there are a variety of variables that (if done correctly) make it possible for anyone to walk across them and not get burned.

    The larger narrative of this story is the sheer magnitude of mass delusion that permeates these types of conferences. It's sad, but it's nothing new. It reminds me of the mega churches we see across the nation. Millions of people, willing to pay anything, if their preacher/teacher/"motivator" will only supply the answer they are looking for. These answers vary depending on discipline, but they all share a central construct of: "Put your faith in, put your belief in, put your trust in ........"

    Human beings are incredibly social creatures. We are a pattern-seeking species, and we look to those in power to give us answers, absolve us of our sins, and wash everything away.

    This pattern of behavior is what we need to worry about ... not snake oil salesmen like Tony Robbins. These types of ailments can be cured with the slightest dose of critical thinking. If we can only become a society that values reason and logic over faith and superstition .... this could be the best of all possible worlds. Fight the cancer, not the symptom.

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    #1.19 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

    Guasch and another participant, Andrew Brenner, told the newspaper that faith and concentration were the keys to not getting singed.

    No, if you've ever watched Mythbusters (which apparantly these people don't), you'd know that it's a matter of physics not faith. Let the coals burn down enough and then walk normally at a steady pace across the coals and do not stop till you're over. There is no magic involved. Neither your faith nor your concentration give you the power to be immune to fire. Only knowledge of how to do this properly is what will save you.

    This is what happens when people ascribe to magical thinking. This is why more skepticism is needed amongst the public.

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    #1.20 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

    Didn't these fools know the correct answer to the question, if you believe walk on these burning coals, is, I'm out of here, have a nice day.

      #1.21 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

      All you need is faith in a god who doesn't exist to walk across hot coals. Lol

      I'd rather see this god appear in front of everyone then walk across the coals. He should be proving he is a god, rather then people having to proof that he exists by doing something stupid like this.

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      #1.22 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

      If done correctly there is a reason you can walk on the coals and not get burned. It's all about heat transfer.

      True, and the bed of coals must be properly prepared first. And ya gotta keep moving 'cuz if ya slow down you are gonna get burned - makes it tough when there is a long line of panicy peple in front of you.

      This is about trust and they got burned.

      They got burned as soon as they opened their checkbooks, LOL!

        #1.23 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

        Robbins is a con man and that's true but walking across hot coals requires (among other things) a quick pace from one end to the other. Getting scared and slowing down will get you burned. I think that is what they are saying in regards to "faith". Faith in the physics that if the coals were prepared correctly it is up to you to move quickly from one end to the other and not slow down or (worse yet) stop in order to leap to the side or go back.

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        #1.24 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

        you can walk on fire too, watch mythbusters.

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        #1.25 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:45 PM EDT
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        In my 70 years there have been many people I have admired and had faith in but I can guarantee my tootsies would not have enough faith in any of them to be compelled to go coal trotting!

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        Reply#2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:40 AM EDT

        The Harlem Coal Trotters......lol.

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        #2.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

        Your reply, Alice is a hoot! And my tootsies agree with your tootsies, no hot coal trotting for them neither!

        • 8 votes
        #2.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:27 AM EDT
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        Some pick up venomous snakes to "prove" their faith, some walk on hot coals.

        Mostly proves you're an idiot.

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        Reply#3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:01 AM EDT

        One time while camping I threw a venomous snake into hot coals.

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        #3.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:54 AM EDT

        The folks that go to these "motivational seminars" are of the same ilk that follow the likes of Jim Jones. They will all eventually drink the Kool-Aid.

        Just weak minded individuals that are ripe to have their pockets picked by the snake oil salesmen.

        • 29 votes
        #3.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:56 AM EDT

        Venomous snakes are notorious for demanding faith, but have none of their own.

        I convinced a New York Strip to walk across the coals last night, it too was extremely unfaithful, but delicious.

        • 30 votes
        #3.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:59 AM EDT

        I hope you didn't cook it past medium rare. That would be even worse than unfaithful.

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        #3.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

        Yeah the first one was an idiot. The 20 that then followed are totally devoid of brain matter.

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        #3.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

        @ Okeeboy

        Not all go to drink the Kool-aid, I was convinced to go to one back in the 80's (NOT Robbins) And the concepts they presented were sound, and they sure as hell did not want me to firewalk. To this day, that seminar has influenced my life more in 2 days, than 12 years of parochial ecucation. Go figure.

        Some minds need focus rather than direction, thats what the good ones do, and they don't serve Kool-Aid.

        84

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        #3.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

        The first "burn walker" was a sheeple. The next 19 were merely lemmings. Tony Robbins, and all those enamored of men and and women who simply have the gift of charismatic gab, are merely $$$ King Cobras. I take it they have never read the book, "Elmer Gantry"? Hey, even the movie?

          #3.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:40 PM EDT
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          Comment author avatarDaniel MatalonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          I have only done one seminar with Tony Robbins and it was this one. I went through the firewalk flawlessly and so have 10's of 1000's before and after me. Something unplanned and unusual had to have occured here to turn this intoinjury. We should wait before we rush to judgement.

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          Reply#4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:08 AM EDT

          This guys' a huckster and a moron, and the people who paid to go to this are suckers. There's my judgement, and I didn't even "rush" to it. It's cut and dry. I can't help but snigger a little at the thought of all these morons paying to get third degree burns... XD

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          #4.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:23 AM EDT

          If you search for the reasons people are able to walk over hot coals it has nothing to do with faith or concentration and everything to do with the physics of heat transfer and the type of material used -- coals conduct heat poorly and usually work, whereas other materials like wood conduct heat well and usually burn people. It's not mysterious and it's not rocket science.

          What it is, however, is a carnival sideshow promoted by hucksters -- if a motivational speaker has you walking over hot coals, you can pretty much rest assured that he's more like the Great Oz and less like someone with useful information. People like Tony Robbins exist to make giant sums of money, not to help people.

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          #4.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:29 AM EDT

          Excellent point krullulon, I might add luck to the equation. Just like you here about ritual snake handlers getting bitten. Or having learned the trade from a relative who died from a snake bite!

          • 8 votes
          #4.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

          Uh,...(or, more appropriately, "duh")...exactly what is walking across a bed of hot coals supposed to prove?...other than that the person who undertakes such a walk has been thoroughly convinced that he/she needs to do so.

          Attending an inspirational speech is one thing; performing circus acts at the behest of the speaker is quite another.

          Can a person be sued for enticing someone else to perform something pointless and stupid?

          • 9 votes
          #4.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

          "Unplanned?". What could possibly go wrong with hot coals???

          • 11 votes
          #4.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:55 AM EDT

          Aw dang....now the lawsuits will cost Tony some maintenance fees for that big ole melon head of his

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          #4.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

          something occurred alright. Another idiot came out of the woodwork.

          • 2 votes
          #4.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

          Humans are the only ones that would do this. And yet, we're called homo SAPIEN. go figure.

          • 3 votes
          #4.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

          Krullulon is correct. And additionally if you watch the "Mythbusters" episode busting this myth, you will see the cast walking across the coals and NOT getting burned, except for Adam. He was not made aware of the physics involved, so he walked too fast and got coal stuck under his toes and was burned because the coal was in contact with his skin for too long. No faith or mind over matter necessary...

          • 4 votes
          #4.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

          good for you, now go help the 21 others who were less fortunate, and who is rushing to judegement, Robbins held the event and is ultimately responsible for the pain and suffering that occurred, or maybe he had a smart lawyer make you all sign a disclaimer, and I love you rationale 21 injured, 5 879 not injured, great ratio, sure makes me want to sign up for one of his events

            #4.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:36 AM EDT
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            .....

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            Reply#5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:55 AM EDT
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            Comment author avatarBecca RExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I agree Doctor Frog, we should all hide from the world. It is our place to not question life, nor it is our place to look at things that are outside the norm. We must remain in the group and place our trust in that which is known. To question that which lies outside of our bubbles is to bring our entire civilization to catastrophe.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:55 AM EDT

            Becca,

            I hope you're not expecting Doctor Frog to understand your comment.

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            #6.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:06 AM EDT

            Since when does suggesting that Tony Robbins is a snake oil salesman mean that we shouldn't question life? I'm pretty sure it means we SHOULD question life and not listen to circus freaks who claim to have the answers and attempt to prove it by having you walk over hot coals.

            • 23 votes
            #6.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:43 AM EDT

            So Becca, how was that koolaid? Betcha you paid plenty for it, too.

            • 10 votes
            #6.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

            Becca, this is nature's way of keeping these idiots from walking up to my door on a Saturday morning with their religious B.S. I am ALL for it! When one understands and believes the very basic laws of physics, that knowledge does not qualify as a failure to look at what lies outside our "bubbles". I have absolutely no problem with an idiot who performs a self-mutilating lemming-like exercise in faith-based futility. The resulting hobble makes them easier to spot.

            • 8 votes
            #6.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

            Proving your faith, there is something that only HOMO SAPIENs would do. We need to change our nomenclature. We have no right to call ourselves SAPIEN.

            • 2 votes
            #6.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
            Reply

            "Unleash the Cash Within," more likely.

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            Reply#7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:57 AM EDT

            Good one Nick. There's truth to the old P.T. Barnum adage about a "sucker is born everyday."

            • 10 votes
            #7.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

            lol! True, it's mainly about the money, just like televangelists. For walking over hot coals, speed is of the essence, if it is to work.

            Something must have slowed down the participants, or the coal were hotter than usual, there IS a rational explanation. It's like lying down on a bed of nails, anyone can do it, and the physics of it are easy enough for a child to understand. I feel sorry for these people, but at least the guy is rich enough to survive the lawsuits that will inevitably come, lol.

            • 3 votes
            #7.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

            Good one Nick. There's truth to the old P.T. Barnum adage about a "sucker is born everyday."

            Actually, the quote you are thinking of has a sucker born every minute, not every day. Under your sucker count, one sucker per day. Under the properly quoted sucker count, 1440 suckers every day. A difference of 1439 suckers per day.

            Further, it is not clear this quote can be attributed to Mr. Barnum. From wiki:

            "There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P. T. Barnum (1810–1891), an American showman. Though this phrase is often credited to Barnum the actual authorship is unclear.

            • 1 vote
            #7.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

            Robbins is no different than a mega church preacher, they both want your money and they both preach faith in the unseen, the only difference is Robbins tells you to have faith in yourself where as a preacher tells you to have faith in your imaginary friend. But in the end it is all about them having faith that you will be stupid enough to fork over large amounts of your hard earned income so they don't have to work for a living. This has gone on for thousands of years and was the exact way most religios got started.

            • 6 votes
            #7.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

            Having faith in yourself is not such a bad idea, but I think you can tell yourself that. You don't need to pay to hear it.

            • 3 votes
            #7.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

            Tony Robbins, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers (?) and all of their ilk all seem to me be not be true Christians. Apparently they forgot the adage, "the root of all evil is the LOVE of money".

              #7.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

              Hey, MJ, really? Then why do millions of people pay therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists and the like to tell them that "they're OK." And don't tell me the difference is whether they're told to walk over hot coals, bungee jump, or anything else.

              It takes a VERY strong person to balance believing in themselves and not falling into narcissism. Trust me. I live in the land of the narcissists.

              I don't condone walking on hot coals, but I understand overcoming one's fears.

                #7.7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:25 PM EDT
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                And there you have it ladies and gentlemen...yet ANOTHER anal retentive, self help motivational guru exposed for the total and complete freakin' NUTJOB he truly is.

                Faith says you can step off a 100 story building and float safely to earth, common sense says that float will consist of a 9.8 M/S² acceleration that will culminate with the "SPLAT" of your body striking the ground with enough force to crater concrete.

                Bottom line: If you play with fire, expect to get burnt, Not all motivational self help gurus are charlatans but that's where the smart money bets, and finally... the last thing a fool says before he dies is "Hey Y'all, watch THIS!"

                Tony Robbins is a highly paid, grossly overrated...Douchebag. Period.

                • 19 votes
                Reply#8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:58 AM EDT

                only crack it - it would need to be a small volume and high mass to make a crater. (or else very thin concrete with out reinforcement and with a watery soil underneath or perhaps "hit head down" - of course, one would need to be "head up and locked" to consider the action as "sane")

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                #8.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:52 AM EDT
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                Faith???? You can have all the faith you want, but if you slow down, you're going to get burned. Anyhow, I guess the people who believe the requirements include faith will enjoy a cup of Kool-Aid afterwards.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:03 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarJEalyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                I have done this event many many times over the years and not once have i been burnt, As someone said earlier ,something out of the ordinary had to have happened for this many people to have been injured. Mr. Robbin's has always conducted himself with integrity and has every ones safety as his main priority.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:09 AM EDT

                The fact that you have done this many times pretty much says all about you that anyone would need or want to know. Now send the huckster more money! Now! If you still have any left, you have not faith. After you finally do run out of money, you can always fondle venomous snakes.

                • 9 votes
                #10.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                ....and why did you need to be "motivated" that many times?

                If walking over hot coals motivated you once, you wouldn't have had to do it again ... let alone many times.

                Or are you another salesman?

                • 8 votes
                #10.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

                Stupid is as stupid does.

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                #10.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                Why pay for it? Knowing how to do it, a person could build a fire in their own back yard and walk on coals every other night for free..

                • 1 vote
                #10.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

                When I say I have done this many times I am referring to the act of walking on the Cole's, they have not all been with Robbins events, and I do it of my own free will because it is a great metaphor and teachable lesson, not sure where the mean spirited rhetoric is coming from, I'm sad for the folks that got injured and that is what we should focus on

                • 1 vote
                #10.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:50 PM EDT
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                Comment author avatarKris Gladeauvia FacebookExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                I was there. NOTHING happened like that what so ever! No one was injuried. The story was completely made up. This is when the media should be scolded for not checking their sources first. Hopefully the media will put in as much effort correcting this out right false statement. It was a huge success!

                • 1 vote
                Reply#11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:21 AM EDT

                Kris, this story has been independently verified by dozens of sources. Your statement is incorrect.

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                #11.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:45 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarskilifeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Interesting. Maybe this has something of an "Attack Tony Robbins" thing to it because he has been going on the internet explaining the massive US government spending and the debt.

                Kind of like going after Ted Nugent for daring to speak out against the President and the Democrats in Congress?

                • 1 vote
                #11.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:47 AM EDT

                skilife, conspiracy theories are SO 1998.

                • 10 votes
                #11.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:49 AM EDT

                Bill Nye demonstrated the principle of fire-walking by waving a flame under a dollar bill wrapped around an empty soda can. Anyone who claims it's magic is just exploiting people.

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                #11.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:32 AM EDT

                Thank you Fan-Girl, I'm pretty sure you paid a lot of good money to attend and it simply wouldn't do to admit that your self esteem was low enough to turn to such theatrics in order to find your natural inner strength, would it?

                Go to church instead, you will still get fleeced but at least you won't get third-degree burns until your loving, forgiving creator sends you to roast in hell.

                • 10 votes
                #11.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:46 AM EDT

                nugent is a walking advertisement for preparation H. He needs to slather it over his whole body since he's all anus.

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                #11.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

                So, Kris.

                Why do you not have "faith" in these people?

                Do you work for Tony Robbins?

                Why do you come here and accuse people of lying?

                • 6 votes
                #11.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

                KRIS. Liar liar, feet on fire!!!

                • 13 votes
                #11.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                Regarding the actual casualties of the incident, 6000 was much too large a crowd for this type of activity. As several have already mentioned (and MythBusters demonstrated), hot coal walking is about proper coal preparation (dead coals forming a light cover over those still burning) and walking technique (flat footed steps that are continuous, no stalling or heel-toe). 6000 people could not have been shown this adequately to avoid injury. Think of it this way, the US Army teaches tens of thousands of soldiers how to use hand-grenades each year, in small groups with an individual instructor for each soldier's first toss.

                Anthony Robbins is himself an example of celebrity. Someone famous for being famous, due to shameless self-promotion. Write a psychobabble self-help book; promote it through paid tv time convincing people with goal issues, lack of talent issues, or even true mental health issues that they can decide, with Anthony's help, to throw some internal switch; solving all their problems and generate personal wealth and power in the process. If anyone has been helped by Anthony Robbins, I congratulate them. But I always wonder at what cost, financially and emotionally, for all Anthony's patient clients that created a nearly billion dollar empire. And what about those that Anthony did not self-help?

                Oddly, in a country pre-occupied with polls and statistics, Americans so frequently forget the real Law of Averages, 'For every above average person, there will be a corresponding below average person.' Maybe self-help ought to concentrate on developing education, skills and talents. Confidence will grow from accomplishment.

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                #11.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                @Skilife - How is that tinfoil hat working out for you? Where did you ever cook up that conspiracy theory?

                  #11.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:29 PM EDT
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                  More like "Unleash Your Cash to Me". I have never understood why people pay so much to these motivational speakers but that is just me. As for the hot coals, when done properly, it is just another glorified parlor trick. Here is what really happens http://express.howstuffworks.com/mb-firewalking.htm.

                  • 10 votes
                  Reply#12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:26 AM EDT

                  Duh - what did they think would happen? Maybe they should have soothed the pain with the kool-aid rather than drinking it.

                  Let big mouth try it and see what happens.

                  Go home people and stop giving people like robbins your hard earned money.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

                  So who or what gets held responsible for these peoples' acts of stupidity. Will an alligator have to be hunted down and killed or will another person's life be ruined through use of the so-called legal system?

                  Can't wait to see who, other than the idiots directly responsible for choosing to walk over hot coals and burn their feet, pay the price. Come on it has to be someone elses fault. This is the 21st century. No one takes responsibility for their own actions.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:54 AM EDT

                  Anyone who files suit after getting burned by walking on hot coals should immediately be judged mentally incompetent to handle their own affairs, and placed under legal guardianship until they come to their senses. The same goes for the morons who empty their wallets for this scam artist and then find out their inner power is less than a microwatt. All of them are idiots, with the only differences among them being the symptoms.

                  • 11 votes
                  #14.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                  Better yet,how is the medical insurance coverage on this? I don't remember seeing it in my policy. ROFLMAO

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

                  They all are willing participants, they all pay for the privilege, and they all sign wavers that basically say "Hey, if you're stupid enough to walk over hot coal it's not our fault if you get burned." So, if they do try to sue it would get thrown out of court.

                    #14.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:11 PM EDT
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                    I also verified the story before placing it on the vine. There were twelve rows of coal placed in a park and people were lined up in rows to start walking. Thousands attended the event. The actual trick used to allow people to walk on coal is explained by engnenk. But if you slow down, you will get burned, badly. Like a traffic jam where the first car in line slows down and it gets multiplied by every car that follows, it only takes one person stopping for the chain reaction to follow. When people panic they forget to use common sense and step off to the side to safety. Iif people really knew the trick involved, they would be disillunsioned quickly. Better to discover what really is inside of you then be deceived by parlor tricks.

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:57 AM EDT

                    Maybe they just didn't have ENOUGH faith ... just kiddding. THe exercise was designed to teach people to resist peeer presssure(joke) KInd of like those marooons who died in the sweat lodge last summmer.

                    • 2 votes
                    #15.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:38 AM EDT
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                    Ouch! ouch!... I'm...ouch!... unleashing...ouch! ouch! ow!... the... ouch! ouch !... power...ow! ouch!... within... ouch! ow !

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:04 AM EDT

                    Oh the humanity!

                    • 4 votes
                    #16.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:26 PM EDT
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                    Forget phony Tony Robbins. Give me Matt Foley, the motivational speaker who lives "in a van down by the river."

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvgcQBt8mc

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:21 AM EDT

                    And make sure you move your coffee table.

                    • 4 votes
                    #17.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:52 AM EDT
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                    I hope these simple idiots learned a lesson that most of us learned in childhood, fire burns flesh, it's called "cooking".

                    Faith can be a wonderful thing, but never so wonderful as the ability to reason. The term "faith" is used by many manipulators who prey upon the weak, and is simply a gentle way to say "willful ignorance".

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:31 AM EDT

                    Tony Robbins should be made to pay the hospital bill for every single person who got burnt.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:51 AM EDT

                    Oh, don't worry, he will be. I'm sure the participants who got burned have now put their "faith" in legal counsel, lol ! This is america, do something stupid, then deny all responsibility, and find someone to blame. Although I'm sure Robbins makes them sign a waiver, so they won't have a case. I sure hope they have health insurance though..

                    • 1 vote
                    #19.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:55 AM EDT

                    chris65 - waivers or no waivers, Robbins is responsible.

                    There will be clear evidence that Robbins talked the people into walking on the coals purposely -- just like that other charlatan talked people into sitting in that sweat lodge.

                    • 3 votes
                    #19.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                    he willl have no choice in the mattter - plus pain and suffering.

                    • 1 vote
                    #19.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

                    Does medical insurance really cover this? I didn't see it in my policy. Not that I would ever need it.

                      #19.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                      Robbins didn't get to where he is by being a dumb businessman- I can guarantee you that each person who voluntarily chooses to do the coal-walking challenge must sign a waiver. He may have a class action lawsuit come up against him but doubt he will have to pay anything in the end.

                      • 1 vote
                      #19.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:59 AM EDT
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                      The seminar is about overcoming fears, not about having faith in Tony Robbins. The fire walk is a dramatic proof by yourself to yourself that you can release your fears and do extraordinary things. It's not about faith or magic or Tony.

                      It's not my cup of tea, but the remarks about preying on the weak and such are made by people who are themselves ignorant. Tony teaches people ways to tap into their own potential--not unlike a sports coach. It's what he does for a living and he has as much right to be paid for it as the guy who helps you improve your golf swing or become a pro boxer. He doesn't force anyone to attend or participate.

                      Those who derisively snort that any fool should know better than to walk on hot coals must have missed the fact that thousands have participated successfully over the three decades that Tony has been leading these seminars. So I guess people can, in fact, walk on hot coals--duh.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#20 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

                      More extraordinary than walking on coals is the realization that your strength is always within you and always within reach. It does not come from any outside source and realization is absolutely free.

                      Cultural programming and the control of free thought is what convinces people that their weaknesses are inherent, Tony Robbins is simply another salesman exploiting the vulnerable for profit.

                      The observation that only fools walk on coals is not a "derisive snort", it's common sense... regardless of how many other fools preceded your ignorant act. Idiots are often lucky, it doesn't make their actions valid or reasonable.

                      • 1 vote
                      #20.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:09 AM EDT

                      How about derisively snorting at the five people who "participated successfully" by preceding you in a game of Russian Roulette? Maybe Tony could help out in "overcoming fears" about that.

                      • 5 votes
                      #20.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                      What you and Robbins call "fear", most people call "judicious reasoning".

                      • 2 votes
                      #20.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                      Patter, you are absolutely correct. This is not about Tony or faith or magic. It is a stupid parlor trick that you paid for and fell for. I am now derisively snorting directly at YOU.

                      • 4 votes
                      #20.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

                      It is a stupid parlor trick that you paid for and fell for. I am now derisively snorting directly at YOU.

                      Well tanainke, that makes you someone who is incapable of simple extrapolation. I said in my post that it was "not my cup of tea." A person of normal intelligence would assume that I had not participated and was not interested in participating. Better you should find a mirror for your snorting exercises, dear.

                        #20.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                        Fear is not always a negative. There is a reason we should be afraid of walking across hot coals. Just ask any of the people who received treatment for 2nd and 3rd degree burns. I'm sure they will be able to explain the reason we have an innate fear of subjecting our tissues to extreme heat.

                          #20.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

                          I fear Tony Robbins. Mainly because he apparently has no fear. What kind of person is he? Does he even care that nineteen people seriously injured themselves? This is not an oops! Sorry folks, if you get burned you will feel the pain and probably be left with a terrible scar. The value of fire walking is not readily apparent. It takes great courage to walk out your front door each day. Those who believe firewalking is going to enhance their experience on earth need to think again. Fire burns. It does not discriminate. Although there have been successful fire walks, there is always those who will not be successful. What do those people receive? Skin grafts? I value my body, heart and mind. No firewalking for me.

                          P.S. Some of these comments are hysterical! Thanks for the laughs. Peace.

                            #20.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:47 PM EDT
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                            As soon as the first person got burned, I would've hot-footed it out of there.

                            • 10 votes
                            Reply#21 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

                            Anyone stupid enough to walk barefoot over hot coals deserves to get burnt!

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#22 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

                            Badly enough to never be able to wear a pair of Louboutins again!

                              #22.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:20 AM EDT
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                              Nothing like a little comic relief after a national tragedy. Our message to the world these past three days has been that America is psychotic and America is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#23 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

                              Nothing is more dangerous than a bag of psychotic hammers. OK, maybe a bag of psychotic machine guns.

                              • 2 votes
                              #23.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                              a bag of psychotic tactical nukes?

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                              #23.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                              or even a bag of psychotic strategic nukes?

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                              #23.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:27 PM EDT
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                              Would make a perfect clip for The Simpsons.

                                Reply#24 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                Homer starting at one end with a cold beer at the other. That would be funny. Throw in Bart or Lisa gliding across the pit unscathed first, priceless.

                                  #24.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:01 AM EDT
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                                  I learned a lot, reading these posts. Especially the attachments.

                                  Cris Foley is hilarious!

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#25 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                                  Chris Farley. Sheesh.

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                                  #25.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:18 AM EDT
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