Double tragedy: Aurora shooting victim learns her daughter was killed

Courtesy Sullivan family via KUS

Veronica Moser Sullivan, 6, was killed by a gunman at the Century theater 16 in Aurora, Colo., shortly after midnight on Friday.

When Ashley Moser took her 6-year-old daughter to see the midnight showing of the latest Batman movie on Thursday, it was supposed to be a time to unwind after months of hardship.

Until recently, Moser and her only child, Veronica Moser-Sullivan, lived with Moser's father -- Veronica's grandfather -- David Moser. They were a tight-knit family. But eight weeks ago, David Moser, 65, died after a 10-month battle with leukemia.

Moser's father’s death crushed her, said her aunt, Annie Dalton.


“She was close with him,” Dalton said.

Dalton said her father’s illness also drained family resources; David Moser was penniless when he died, she said.

Ashley Moser and her little girl then moved in with an uncle, where they were living when they headed out for the Cinemark movie theater in Aurora, Colo., a suburb of Denver.  

At 25, Moser had not had an easy life, her aunt said.

"Ashley struggled a lot," Dalton said.

But Moser was getting her life in order, Dalton said. She had taken classes to enter a nursing program, her goal being to earn a degree as a licensed practical nurse – the kind of nurse who cares for the sick, injured or disabled. Moser had been accepted into a nursing program and was living off student loan money because she wasn’t employed, Dalton said.

Veronica, Dalton said, was a typical 6-year-old.

"She loved school, loved playing," she said. She had just started swimming lessons at a local recreation center, which she enjoyed. She was to start first grade in the fall.

But then came the early hours of Friday. Moser, a male friend and Veronica were in the theater, half an hour into The Dark Knight Rises, when a gunman entered and shot 71 people, killing 12.

On police radio calls someone is heard saying: "We have a child down and cannot evacuate." 

The gunman killed Veronica; Moser caught a bullet to the neck. Dalton said she is paralyzed.

In the two days following the shooting, Moser drifted in and out of consciousness at the hospital. On Saturday, Moser’s mother, a chaplain and a doctor sat by her side and told her the devastating news: Her daughter had died in the shooting.

Moser was crushed.

Dalton said that despite her niece's extensive injuries, Moser's health appears to be improving. She is awake and talking now, Dalton said on Sunday.

For the family, this means more trauma, of course, but also mounting medical bills. Dalton said she believes that Moser is on Medicaid, but money will be tight with additional bills and Veronica’s funeral.

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Nothing against donations to that school bus lady or the Martin/Zimmerman families..but I hope someone helps this young lady..I can give around $10 would do more.. I just don't have a lot..but this young lady needs help galore now.

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#1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

That's a very nice thought, I think the donation site was indiegogo com.

In two months she's lost the father of her child, her child and is paralyzed herself. I would not want to survive that kind of devastation to my life.

  • 42 votes
#1.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

Some of the profits from the sale of the movie tickets should go to a victims fund. Yes, I realize Hollywood is not responsible for the killings, but the producers, the actors, the filmmakers--they have more money than they need. Instead of giving it to a charity--charity begins at home and THESE people are the ones most in need.

I hear the movie's set to make $165 million this weekend--and that's just domestically. Why CAN'T some of it go to the victims, and the victims families? It would be the human thing to do.

  • 86 votes
#1.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

@Nitpicker, not to nitpick, but she lost her OWN father, not the child's father. I agree. If we Americans can donate $700,000 to send a bullied bus driver on vacation, we can support this young woman in her time of need. Maybe the bus driver should donate some of her $700,000?

  • 61 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

I totally agree but, out of respect for the families, will reserve thoughts on our country''s obsession with violence and those who make money off it. GIVE TO THESE FAMILIES.

  • 16 votes
#1.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmarc DorfmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I choose not to believe in any G*d that allows such tragedy to occur. If there is a G*d, that G*d must not give a rats a*& what we do or if we pray or not. Pray your heart out but you may end up like poor Moser. Help and comfort for these devastated souls will be delivered by fellow humans..... God willing

  • 11 votes
#1.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

Someone started a fund on indiegogo: http://www.indiegogo.com/helpforashleymoser?a=737883

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

Coincidentally, the first thought I had before clicking on comments was "I wonder if the bus monitor has read this article... If so, would it occur to her to give some of the huge amount she was given to some of the victims? Just seems to me that sometimes things are out of balance... The lady on the bus was wronged, bullied, and maybe a nice vacation is warranted. But, I and numerous others I've known were bullied as a children, worse than this lady was, and we've all grown up to be productive, compassionate individuals who gave back to society, not took from it. It seems society overreacts sometimes and things get blown out of proportion in situations that are sad, but not tragic... Then you have something like this, a terrible tragedy, and nowhere near enough is done for the victims.

I used to work at University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora in 2006. If I remember correctly, they do have a fund for victim's families through their social services department. You might call them to see about donating. My son and daughter in law, who live in Aurora, will be calling the police force in Aurora (once things calm down a bit) and some banks in the area, to see if they know of where we can donate. Who knows, maybe the theater has an insurance policy that will cover the needs of the victims or their families? I sure hope so!

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

Marc, God did not allow this tragedy to happen, humans did. God gave man free will and it is up to each and everyone of us to be respectful, kind and have comapassion and empathy for all life. Unfortunately some humans would rather live a life of evil instead. Apparently you do not have faith in God. So sad for you:(

  • 40 votes
#1.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:14 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJo Ann-666954Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

How about the actors stepping up also. Morgan Freeman recently donated $1 million dollars to the Obama campaign. Can you believe that? One millions dollars! Wow. Talk about a waste of money. The million dollars could have helped so many people.

  • 24 votes
#1.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

Nitpicker-5438025

In two months she's lost the father of her child, her child and is paralyzed herself. I would not want to survive that kind of devastation to my life.

Eventho I understand that you sympathise with her ordeal, and this is probably how she feels at the moment, I don't think thoughts of suicide and/or total discouragement can help much.

And I wish people would get off the bus monitor's back, quit putting pressure on her about the donations money (you are beginning to sound like bullies yourselves), and let her retire in peace (and enjoy life), this donation money is hers, not yours to do what you wish with, if she wants to give some to Ms Moser she will, but she shouldn't be pressured into it anymore then you. Donate your own money to Ms Moser if you wish. There is a lot of other people who can give to Ms Moser as well. There is also many others who cannot pay their medical bills and would need financial aid just as much eventho they were not victims of a mass shooting.

This said, my heart goes out to her and her family, losing her father, and then her child, certainly is not easy to get through. However I do wish her to recover, eventho she will certainly never forget her loved ones, life will go on and I wish her a long and fulfilling one. R.I.P little angel Veronica.

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#1.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

Anna, I'm not picking on the bus lady... It angered me just like it did everyone else when I first read about what she had to endure. It's just that it hit me wrong when I saw the article about her, yet again, along with this one. This lady has gotten far too much press already, she's a star now! To bring up all the money and perks she's gotten in the face of so many people suffering, just seems really insensitive. Medicare will not cover the funeral for Moser's daughter, and even with life long disability, she'll have a hard life being paralized, as medicare will not cover her care expenses to the extent of what she'll need. Unless someone steps in, she'll only get bottom line care. The bus lady did suffer mentally, but she had (has) a nice home, retirement, and a family who are supporting her. I just think it was tacky for the press to put her up in lights again in the wake of this terrible tragedy. That's all.

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#1.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

It's not the fault of the 'bus lady' that she gets all this press nor the donations. She didn't ask for any of it.

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#1.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:32 PM EDT

As for her bills...they aren't going to stop treating her if she runs out of Medicaid...AND they aren't going to arrest her if she has bills she can't pay. All she needs to do now is concentrate on geting well and try not to worry about owing anyone anything.

  • 16 votes
#1.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

Who do you people think you are, trying to tell others who they SHOULD GIVE to, why they should give, how much they should give??

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:35 PM EDT
Comment author avatarkittyzenExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Maybe all the gun shop owners/employees and all the people in this country who purchase guns might want to contribute to this tragic family, and all the families who lost someone, or got injured, in this carnage?

  • 10 votes
#1.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:50 PM EDT
Comment author avataronemanvoltExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Moser's mother, a chaplain and a doctor sat by her side and told her the devastating news: Her daughter had died in the shooting.

Moser was crushed.

What, no video with tears? No close up of the exact moment she was told.

The media is slipping. I suppose Nancy Grace can do a recreation of it.

Headline "News" will have material for the next six years!

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:47 AM EDT

Gahh, I hate it when Atheists/Anti-gun/Pro-gun people come in and hijack the discussion for their favorite topic. Stop it.

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#1.17 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

The "indiegogo" page has been taken down.

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:09 AM EDT

This is a terrible horrific act, no question there. My question is why in the world would a parent have their 6 year old daughter or son for that matter, at a violent movie like this? It barely made a PG13 rating to begin with, and a midnight showing? I'm sure this isn't making a lot of people feel any better about this I'm sure. But it seems funny to me that as I scrolled through all of these comments about financial donations with examples of other people alleged as less deserving. Also a number of people made comments cursing or questioning peoples spiritual beliefs. Not to mention the observations made that a government agency or perhaps some hidden hand created this monster. Conspiracy, I don't think so. Monster? No, it is obviously an example of a person with a mental problem that went too long without notice by others and treatment by professionals. I realize that the shock of this terrible event creates a reaction of paranoia, rage, or contempt. However, finger pointing, conspiracies, and the likes do not solve a problem. Awareness, education, and observations made before a crisis like this are productive. I'm not a shrink and barely have an associates, but it seems pretty obvious here that the majority of those that bothered to say something, stated nothing productive or truly compassionate.

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#1.19 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

I am sorry for the loss of the young girl and the injuries of the young mother. But I guess I wonder why someone would take a 6 yr old to a PG13, not funny,(scary to for a 6yr old) movie especially at midnight?

  • 7 votes
#1.20 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

I read that the reason the Indiegogo site was taken down (as well as all the new sites since the Aurora shooting) was to verify that the donations were actually valid requests. This has been now been verified. and I just went onto their site:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/185977

and it is now open again for donations. The request is for $5,000, and they have received $95 as of right now. It is my prayer that people will donate much more than this. While I'm sure that would be appreciated, it certainly won't even begin to cover their bills (don't funerals even cost more than that?).

Though it might have been said more tactfully I agree entirely with sentiment expressed by GREATGRAN101 in her post 1.14 when she wrote:

Who do you people think you are, trying to tell others who they SHOULD GIVE to, why they should give, how much they should give??

Writers have suggested donations from the actors, the movie makers, the theater, gun shop owners, Ms. Klein (aka the "school bus lady", who I think deserves to be called by name), and anyone else they can think about. While I understand the thought behind these suggestions--those who have lots can help lots of others, and so on--it is certainly not up to me or any of us to cajole or push them into it.

It is my sincere hope that many will choose to freely give, from their hearts, rather than because they feel guilty in some way. The more of us who give, the more help Ashley will have. Go for it!

A PS . . . I think it's mean for people to be criticizing the mother at this point for taking her child to a movie. SO many kids love Batman. If the parent is there to explain the PG-13 parts of the movie, it should be okay. PG--parental guidance!

My heart goes out to this mother, and indeed to the families of all the victims of the shooting, whether they were killed or injured. I hope and pray that they will be surrounded by as much love and support as possible during this difficult time.

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#1.21 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

Rob, I was wondering the same thing. I have a 6 year old and there is no way I would be taking him to a movie at midnight.

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#1.22 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:30 PM EDT

First of all, Ashley's dad did not die of leukemia. It was her "step-granddad"--- her lover's grandfather--- with whom she & Veronica were living. Anna Moser, Ashley's "step-grandmother", said she went to NYC to heal from her husband's recent passing. According to Ashley's friends, Ashley took Veronica with her to the movie in order to see her lover on the sly because her real family and Veronica's real daddy's (Ian Sullivan's) family disapproved of her relationship with this lover (who is the father of her unborn child). If Ashley had not been sneaking around trying to meet up with her lover and dragging her 6-year-old with her, Veronica would still be alive. By the way, where is this mysterious boyfriend. Did he run out of the theater and leave Ashley and Veronica to suffer and die? Why is the news media avoiding the truth about this "family"?

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#1.23 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

Good grief you are a real ray of sunshine.......it is no ones business why she was there, and I dont think anyone cares except you....dont make her time of grief worse.

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#1.24 - Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:18 AM EDT

simple truth, I can't imagine where you picked up this gossip. I don't think it's appropriate on this thread. Whatever happened, the woman lost her daughter, and she is now paralyzed. Regardless of your insinuations, which I neither know or care if they are true, she is having a terrible time. I'd like to tell you to go wash your mouth out with soap, but I'm sure someone would consider that cruel of me to pick on you like that.

Just leave it alone, would you please? No more ugliness needed!

  • 7 votes
#1.25 - Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:04 AM EDT

Who cares why a six yr old was there. PG-13 is just the suggestion that people be at least 13. A SUGGESTION. R rated means nobody under 17 . Road Runner and Whylie Coyote are violent ..do you shield your kids from that too? You people worry about the stupidest sh*t. The girl would have probably fallen asleep anyway. What bugs me is the self righteous people that feel they need to stick up for or feel sorry for the shooter cuz he must have a mental problem....no sh*t Sherlock. How does that make him any less responsible for the crime. For those of you that seem to think this guy deserves anything less than being executed...how about you stop patting yourself on the back for saving a life while washing your hands of him by letting someone deal with him and let us send him to your house.

  • 3 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:48 AM EDT
Reply

Someone in her family needs to set up a fund and post it on facebook to help this young woman out, otherwise she will exist into yet another tragedy with lost of funds on top of already difficult hardship.

  • 13 votes
#2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:29 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjeffmillerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No, what she and all of us need is national health insurance. Then we wouldn't have to waste time and money raising money for tragedies large and small.

  • 57 votes
#2.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

This should not become political. National Healthcare is not a cure-all and would not pay for a funeral/plot/casket. She needs donations for those items.

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#2.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

You're the one who's making it political. Not me. Healthcare for all can work as Medicare attests. I'm not asking for a cure-all, but the family has enough to deal with without begging in the streets for donations.

  • 31 votes
#2.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

Mr Miller, she has national health insurance, she has medicaid, this is what we would all have in the world that you invision. My ex wife has medicaid, after years of treatment following cancer, she would be happy to tell you about the slow rate of care, long wait for tests and therapy, and the shaking heads when she asks about new developments for treatment. Why the shaking heads? Medicaid. My private insurance that I pay for provides so much more. This woman needs our charity, prayers and financial support. Before you bloviate about health care, inform yourself a bit more.

  • 24 votes
#2.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:54 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjeffmillerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I am informed. I have no reason to believe you. My father-in-law has heart issues and always gets first-rate care right on time with Medicare. Who wins, you or me? What will charity buy? It's too late to buy your health insurance for her. Why are Ms. Moser's medical needs deserving of an outpouring from America but a kid in the ghetto who needs chemo for leukemia not deserving of America's charity in equal measure? Do we even have enough such charity to go around?

  • 25 votes
#2.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

jeffmiller said,

"No, what she and all of us need is national health insurance. Then we wouldn't have to waste time and money raising money for tragedies large and small."

YOU sir, are EXACTLY what's wrong with the world today. I will pick up where you left off; actually...where you should have STARTED, and chose not to. FYI: here's how it's done. Please note I took great care not to be political or downright tasteless, classless, and tacky. You should really be ashamed...but sadly, you are probably proud of yourself. UGH! You are DISMISSED. Moving on...

My thoughts, prayers, and sympathies are not only with this young mother, but her grieving family and friends as well. So much tragedy in one family, especially in such a short period of time is horrific, to say the least. To this lady, her family, and friends who are in the middle of processing an overwhelming amount of such devastating information, I want to tell you how sorry I am that you all are going through this. I can only imagine the heartache you are experiencing, and wish I could take some upon myself personally so as to lighten your heavy burdens.

Please somehow announce whenever and however you can what your needs are and how people who feel the same way as I do can assist. Most of us realize this will be a long, tough road for all of you, and want to do something, ANYTHING, (REGARDLESS of who pays the hospital bill) to help make that journey even the tiniest bit easier, shorter, and/or less heartbreaking.

I wish I could say something eloquent to stop the pain, but I know these circumstances would never allow for that, so I won't even try. I will, however, not forget this story and stand ready to offer support to you however I can.

  • 16 votes
#2.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

Mr. Miller, you are a despicable man. Why is it people like you take every opportunity to make a tragedy into a play for your agenda. I guess, it doesn't matter if you have to 'use corpses' to push for your agenda. One day, a tragedy may happen in your life and won't you be greatful when someone uses your tragedy to push their own agenda?

Crawl back under your rock, wait until the bodies are buried, and then the rest of us might consider actually giving an ounce of credence to your thoughts...

  • 11 votes
#2.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:22 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjeffmillerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sorry toughcrowd, you're not really making sense to me. See, thing is, when we have to raise money to help someone who could have been covered by the kind of policy Germany has, for example, it takes time to help them. And it takes money to raise money. There is no guarantee enough money will be raised to pay the bills and the family has to endure the wait of raising the money. That to me, seems inhumane. And then there are all the other folks in America who need care just as much but don't get headlines. What about them?

  • 27 votes
#2.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Thanks for the kind words, Rich Shepard. It's really just simple economics. I've been through at least three tragedies and I was lucky to have health insurance from my employer. But darn it, I feel for those less fortunate than me and for them, I would like to pay more in taxes to support their healthcare. Do you?

  • 31 votes
#2.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

Only in America would this mother have to worry about medical bills at a time like this.

  • 38 votes
#2.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarHolly Allenvia Facebook

Help the family by donating here!

  • 2 votes
#2.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

I've been through at least three tragedies and I was lucky to have health insurance from my employer. But darn it, I feel for those less fortunate than me and for them, I would like to pay more in taxes to support their healthcare. Do you?

Amen Jeff. I've always said I don't mind paying more taxes if it's used for the greater good inside this country first.

  • 23 votes
#2.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

Wow, jeffmiller, you ARE thick!

It makes no sense to you that maybe you should nix the politics for a while and take a moment to do something kind like address the victim, offer your sympathies, pay respects to the deceased, or even (GASP) offer to help this woman out however you can? You come right out of the gate with a comment like that and expect people to not be disgusted with you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE. It is about a family (and an entire community, for that matter) going through an unbelievable amount of pain and heartache at this time and you are worried about continuing a political fight over who's gonna pick up the stinkin' hospital tab?!? Good grief, there is a time and place for everything, but apparently, you don't get that.

Who cares about the bill, let alone what Germany does, at this very minute, anyway? I can guarantee you SHE doesn't! I also doubt very much the hospital administrators are standing at her bedside as I type this with a payment plan agreement for her to sign, either. The stupid bill will get paid somehow, someway. This ENTIRE situation is exceptional, so I'm sure there will be a process to deal with all that in due time. As for now, people want to give money and offer support, so let them! Why does everything have to be about politics every second of the day?!? Sheesh!

And don't start in with me about all that "other people who need care just as much" garbage. You have NO IDEA what I, my family, or anyone else on this thread has gone through, so BACK OFF!!! We don't need some PC yahoo like you wagging your finger at us while lecturing about people in need. Period. How do you know we aren't in dire positions ourselves but instead of constantly griping, we prefer to continue to give our time, money, and support to others we are made aware of IF ONLY because we UNDERSTAND what it's like to be there and it takes our mind off of our own problems for a while?!?

This woman has SO many more things to worry about after the medical bills are paid, regardless of who does it; THAT'S my point. If you can't understand that, then I can't be of any further assistance to you. I have already wasted far too much time and space on your politically driven nonsense. Shame on you. If you can't allow this family and the public to process this tragedy in peace, just go away.

  • 20 votes
#2.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

Amen, toughcrowd, amen.

  • 6 votes
#2.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

Everyone is going to have a long recovery both physically and mentally. I feel that instead of how much money the movie made it should be how much money they give. The people that got injuried, lost love ones are going to need that more than the actors in the movie. God speed for those who are injuried for and there are no words for the families of lost ones other than so very sorry for your lost and prayers. God speed to all there.

  • 2 votes
#2.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

If Jeff and others would take the time to scroll through other comments they may have seen post #1.6. It has a link to the indigogo site for donations to Ashley.

http://www.indiegogo.com/helpforashleymoser

    #2.16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

    This young lady has free healthcare right now, she is on Medicaid. I'm glad she is well taken care of. She is in a good hospital right now. Our taxes pay for Medicaid. May she continue to heal.

    • 5 votes
    #2.17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

    jeffmiller, WillardsEtchASketch, and RealAmericansFirst, This forum has too many radical extremist posting here. You guys are way too sane and civil. The low information radical extremist, just can not handle sanity and civility. They need to go on back over to fox lies and propagand channel, with their own kind!

    • 6 votes
    #2.18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

    To this lady, her family, and friends who are in the middle of processing an overwhelming amount of such devastating information, I want to tell you how sorry I am that you all are going through this. I can only imagine the heartache you are experiencing, and wish I could take some upon myself personally so as to lighten your heavy burdens.

    Please somehow announce whenever and however you can what your needs are and how people who feel the same way as I do can assist. Most of us realize this will be a long, tough road for all of you, and want to do something, ANYTHING, (REGARDLESS of who pays the hospital bill) to help make that journey even the tiniest bit easier, shorter, and/or less heartbreaking.

    _____

    What sort of ego presumes that this young woman is going to read this? What unutterly vulgar self-importance and -promotion.

    Respect the possibility that she wants her privacy, without busybodies speculating about her feelings and situation. And the offering of advice is pathetic, and worse.

    • 1 vote
    #2.19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

    JNagarya,

    You're kidding, right?

    Not making any PRESUMPTIONS she would read that, only an OFFER of help, support, sympathy, condolences...just as numerous other people have done here today. It's the nice thing to do...maybe try it sometime? But watch out, your heart may grow 3 sizes that day! I mean, COME ON, did I offer up my personal phone number and tell her to give me a jingle when she's up to it? No, and I have no clue what "advice" you are referring to.

    What is the matter with you? When you see a makeshift memorial on the side of a road with cards, flowers, and teddy bears, do you feel the same way about the people who wrote those messages? It's pretty much the same thing, only via the internet. What a horrible thing that some people care about others, huh?

    If jeffmiller is "Exhibit A" in the case of "What's wrong with this world today", you are "Exhibit B", (unless you are the same person, which wouldn't surprise me in the least) and I feel sorry for you that you would even think to make such a hate-filled remark. You, along with any of your other cohorts who just want to come here and cause trouble simply because one of your pals was called out for bad behavior, are dismissed as well.

    • 4 votes
    #2.20 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

    I'd like to make a case for leaving these people strictly alone while they mourn and bury their dead. They don't need the rest of us to tell them a terrible thing has happened; they are living it. They don't need political capitol made from their loss. Maybe we should all put a muzzle on the political name calling and stick to plain statements of condolence?

    • 6 votes
    #2.21 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 AM EDT

    The "indiegogo" page has been taken down.

    • 1 vote
    #2.22 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:10 AM EDT
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    My thoughts and prayers go out to the mother and other family of this little girl and all the innocent victims involved.

    • 21 votes
    Reply#3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

    Amen. The pain must be unbearable, to lose your child for doing nothing more than going to a movie.

    • 5 votes
    #3.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:58 PM EDT
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    I am willing to donate just need to know how and where to send, c'mom people lets step up and help her.

    It is not giving up to much to do this she has lost her dauther.

    If anyone can find out how to donate please post it here

    PEACE

    • 13 votes
    Reply#4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:32 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarSu Turnervia Facebook

    Geronimo.. it's .

      #4.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:09 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarSu Turnervia Facebook

      indiegogo DOT COM SLASH ashleymoser

        #4.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
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        #4.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

        The "indiegogo" page has been taken down.

          #4.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:11 AM EDT

          The page has been reinstated. It is:

          http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/185977

            #4.5 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
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            I completely agree with Mike277: The family should start a fund for this woman. This is so horrible. God bless this country, and its people.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

            I'm sure people will step in to help her financially. I pray she is able to find some comfort in this tragic situation.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:33 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarjeffmillerRestored

            Some comfort. Like what?

            • 2 votes
            #6.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

            Her daughter was close to her father who passed away a couple of months ago. Maybe it would comfort her if she believed that her father and her daughter have somehow been reunited and that her little girl is still with loved ones.

            I am not religious but I would be comforted to believe something like that if a tragedy like this ever happened to me.

            • 3 votes
            #6.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarF WalshRestored

            Like a six year old had no business going to that movie? Maybe she will die of her injuries and won't have to think about that, maybe that will be a comfort. We all have had bad things happen to us. Most of us have to accept our responsibility, I doubt if she ever will, even if she does live.

            • 2 votes
            #6.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

            Stuff it, Jeff.

            • 4 votes
            #6.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

            FWalsh...What the hell are you talking about?!

            • 5 votes
            #6.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

            Um Kai, taking advice from someone with a tat on the President's head is not really something I plan on doing.

            • 4 votes
            #6.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:15 AM EDT

            F Walsh

            How is she in any way responsible for this?

            What has happened in your life that would make you want to post something like this?

            • 3 votes
            #6.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

            FWalsh

            Does it make your pathetic life better to judge a woman who is lying paralyzed with a bullet in her neck, mourning the MURDER of her six year old daughter? She took her daughter to a movie, she will wake up every day for the rest of her life regretting it. She did absolutely nothing wrong but as a mother myself I imagine she will never stop blaming herself, she lost her daughter, even if she recovers physically there will be a HUGE piece of the very fabric of her being that is lost forever!! I can not imagine the pain of such a loss and for anyone to contribute to her anguish by implying that her daughter's death is her fault is simply evil. I guess it's easy to be a complete @!$%# when your comments are annonymous though huh? I'm fairly confident that you woundn't be making such ignorant and cruel comments face to face with someone who might actually call you on your bull@!$%#.

            • 5 votes
            #6.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

            Cardech, just stop worrying about what people you don't know say, and concentrate on the issue. Honestly, these boards are getting so clogged up with people whining because other people seem insensitive. If you don't like it, just move on and don't give them the attention they want. You're just falling into their trap...

            • 1 vote
            #6.9 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:08 PM EDT
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            I agree, someone in the family needs to set up a Facebook fund to help this young woman out...Americans will dig deep to help!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

            My god that's depressing. I feel horrible and hope that gunman gets the @!$%# kicked out of him in jail

            • 2 votes
            Reply#8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

            Doubt it. He'll most likely be put in solitary confinement just like the wacko in Arizona.

            • 2 votes
            #8.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

            After reading this, I just want to take a good, stout baseball bat and beat that SOB in the head until there's nothing left.

            • 6 votes
            #8.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
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            Comment author avatarAL GOMA-3524616Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Just out of curiosity, isn't it considered "Child Endangerment" or "Parent Negligence" to take a six-year old child to a Midnight Movie at a Colorado shopping mall?

            • 1 vote
            Reply#9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

            Basically I would say no, it is not a crime to take your child to a movie at midnight. It is something I would do without a problem, especially in the summertime when there is no school the next day. Mostly I would think it is a wasted ticket because the child is not going to stay awake but they would be with me.

            • 8 votes
            #9.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

            How can you be so callus @ a time like this?? Have you no heart nor compassion??

            • 7 votes
            #9.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

            Nothing more horrible I can think of as a treat than your Mom letting you stay out late in the summer to see a movie. Definitely not a rare treat you'll look back on as an adult and smile. How callous can people be?

            • 8 votes
            #9.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

            Is it parent negligence to force your child to stay up until 2am at Disneyland to watch somewhat violent programs like Fantasmic? I'm thinking millions of people have done that horrible thing to their kids. Lock them all up!

            • 5 votes
            #9.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

            I agree with Al, what kind of moron takes a 6 year old to see a violent, graphic movie like this? That is completely irresponsible in and of itself… taking them to a midnight movie where you are guaranteed to have a rowdier than normal crowd puts it over the top. It’s like those other idiot parents who I saw boo-hooing on TV over the weekend who were there with they’re INFANT and a 4 year old. What the hell are these people thinking? I think a visit from CPS is in order.

            • 3 votes
            #9.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:21 PM EDT
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            Comment author avatarEnough!-4094363Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I feel terribly bed for this young family. I have two children myself right about Veronica' age. And you know what. I would have never let them see such a movie, especially at midnight when they should be fast asleep in their beds. A movie such as Batman is way to violent for a child that age. I'm sorry but she shouldn't have even been there in the first place. Sorry.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

            This child is dead and you're worried about her mother's parenting choices? Are you freakin' kidding?

            • 19 votes
            #10.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

            Oh so holier than thou, aren't you? You ARE sorry, I'll give you that. This family has been through HELL and it has nothing, NOTHING, to do with her taking her child to a midnight, PG-13 movie. I am so sick of hearing people bash this mother for chosing to take her daughter to see Batman. It's not your decision. PERIOD. That whack job killed her baby. Nothing that the mother did. Not the choices that she made, but the shooter's actions. Don't tell me that you haven't made questionable decisions regarding your own kids. That's your right. You are the parent. Get over yourself and give this mother a break. She will be grieving for the rest of her life. Calling her out on something that has nothing to do with you is pretty sad.

            • 23 votes
            #10.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:01 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarTom D-877542Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I am in complete agreement with you, enough. a 6 year old had no business being at such a violent movie, not any movie shown at midnight. SIX YEARS OLD...baby should have been safe asleep in her bed. I am not blaming the mother - the blame falls on James Holmes whose life will hopefully be ended by his fellow inmate.

            That said, I do hope people will help out her young mother who has suffered so much tragedy in her short life. SO very sorry for all the families and friends of those who were so senselessly murdered and injured.

            • 12 votes
            #10.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

            oh god, shut up. you sound like my mother

            • 3 votes
            #10.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

            My deepest sympathies to all victims families...........but

            I'm not your mother, but just a reality check for all you bleeding hearts. what the hell are parents taking their infants, toddlers and adolescent children to a PG-13 midnight movie with Bane the dark scary nightmare causing villian. yes it's the parents right, Parental Guidance suggested if under 13, but these irresponsible parent types are breeding the next generation whack jobs, as those kids have nightmares after violent movies like this and start down the path of emotional disturbance. The douche above debating medical insurance forgot to add all the free psych meds you all need to deal with your pathetic lives. I'm not your mother, I'm the preacher of not being so freaking politically correct that you can't all seem to call any one out for bad behavior. I personally hate going to the movie theater because lame parents that most of you seem to be endorsing bring their infants and children to totally inappropriate movies instead of hiring a freaking babysitter!

            Any questions?

            • 4 votes
            #10.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

            and one more thing...

            go setup a charity fund at indiegogo.com and turn all the living victims into millionares so they can pay for their psych meds and better health insurance.

              #10.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

              Well, it took exactly two comments for the self-righteous to start in on parenting. They just can't help themselves.

              • 6 votes
              #10.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:10 PM EDT
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              poor poor woman, she must be utterly devastated..life can be so hard. nothing but love and sympathy for her here.

              • 15 votes
              Reply#11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

              Well, we are lucky for you to be here to show us all the right way to be.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

              She went to be with her Daddy.

                Reply#13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

                Grandfather. It was the mother's father who had die. They never mentioned the 6 year old's father.

                • 2 votes
                #13.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                I saw the little girl's father giving an interview to a local reporter outside the hospital the girl's mother was being treated. At his request, he had his back turned to the camera and did not want to be indentified. He said he was living in NY when the authorities contacted him and then he came back to Aurora. By his tone of speech, he seemed to be disoriented and quite angry as one would expect. I hope someone is helping the poor man too.

                • 3 votes
                #13.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                @Lippy - I saw that interview too. I wanted to smack that reporter in the face! This poor man ~ lost his young daughter, his ex-wife was in the hospital in critical condition and this dum-a$$ reporter is shoving a mic in his face asking him how he felt when he heard his daughter had been killed! How the he ll do you think he felt???

                • 3 votes
                #13.3 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:46 PM EDT
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                My heart goes out to this family....I feel bad for this woman.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:49 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarvoxrationisExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                There is no God...this story is just proof positive as if the evidence wasn't overwhelming enough....

                • 7 votes
                Reply#15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                So where was the Almighty God that allowed this to happen ??? Where is he in all the tradgedies and wars?? Perhaps there is not enough duct tape to fix this world..

                • 10 votes
                Reply#16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                My Almighty Father, is on His throne watching all this madness, all the mockers, scoffers and unbelievers, soon to clean it all up. And it will be sooner rather than later,,,,and lawlessness abounds...

                • 10 votes
                #16.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

                My Almighty Father, is on His throne watching all this madness, all the mockers, scoffers and unbelievers, soon to clean it all up

                ...and letting billions go hungry and suffer under tyranny while the richest among us hoard mass amounts of wealth. And shining his grace on a country where trillions in profits are held while millions are unemployed and hurting. What a great God you have! Keep on bowing down...we want be joining you in your groveling to the wind.

                And no amount of charitable donations is going to fix what has happened to her.

                • 1 vote
                #16.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:33 PM EDT
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                Why on earth would you blame a victim? I can't say I would have made the same choice to take my child to see this movie, at this time of night. But, guess what... That is my choice to make. It is not the government's choice, or your choice to make for her. It is a sad day when people start blaming victims for the tragedies they have befallen.

                • 21 votes
                Reply#17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                The NRA should pay all the medical expenses and funeral expenses for this family.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                John Wayne Gacy killed almost 3 times as many people without a gun. Did you gun grabbers pay the expenses for his victims?

                • 10 votes
                #18.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                Screw You...

                  #18.2 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

                  oh please.....the gun was just a tool he is sick and maybe instead of jumping on the gun control bandwagon we in America should be concerned about the mental health issues.......without guns we would not be America.....we would still be the colonies.....I know that sounds dumb but think about it. And I suppose you never watch shows or movies where guns are used as weapons.....right.

                    #18.3 - Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:28 AM EDT
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                    Comment author avatarPamela SchultzExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Alright, I see so much wrong here. First, if she was so broke and obviously on welfare according to the story stating she's on medicaid, how could she afford the exhorbitant theater prices? She lived with her father who died, then moved in with an uncle..no job to live on her own? Most importantly. CHILDREN should be in bed at midnight. Not out at a stupid movie until what would have been 3 AM. No, I am not heartless. It really is a terrible event that happened, but everyone needs to wake up! There is not a need for ANY movie to show at midnight, and had there not been a midnight showing, this unfortunate event would not have taken place. That lunatic could not have done it during daylight hours without getting apprehended before anything bad happened.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                    Pamela, you need to get a grip. The midnight movie did not kill that girl. The shooter killed her. No movies at midnight? You haven't been out much. Midnight movies are part of America's culture and are a lot of fun for people who attend them. The lunatic could not have murdered 12 people in broad daylight at a movie theater? The reason there was a quick response time by police is because they were at the theater directing traffic for the midnight movie. I don't know if response would have been quicker during the day but I do know that this mass murder could have happened the exact same way if it were 12:30 pm and not 12:30 am. Put the blame on the murderer. Not on this mother.

                    • 24 votes
                    #19.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                    Pamela Shut it

                    • 21 votes
                    #19.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

                    No, I am not heartless.

                    Heartless? Nope. (I'm sure you're a nice person who just likes to interject your opinions. I'm sure your friends love spending time with you and listening to your thoughts on everything.)

                    Clueless? Pretty much. (i.e., Daylight somehow magically makes bullets disappear?)

                    Tactless? Bingo! (The mother is paralyzed and her six year old daughter is dead, and you're obviously more concerned that this unemployed mother had the audacity to go to a movie while on the public dole. Oh, and exhibit poor parenting skills at the same time.)

                    Hmmm. Heartless? I'm reconsidering my first impression.

                    • 18 votes
                    #19.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                    Have you thought that maybe her male friend (he was mentioned in the article) bought the movie tickets?

                    • 13 votes
                    #19.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                    I was thinking exactly the same thing.

                    • 4 votes
                    #19.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

                    So poor people should never, ever, do anything fun? Dang, you're pretty darn cold.

                    • 15 votes
                    #19.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:12 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarBarbie Brownvia Facebook

                    You are heartless Pamela, I SINCERELY hope you were never able to have a child and if you do give them to someone who is capable of feeling compassion.

                    • 6 votes
                    #19.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:50 AM EDT

                    I too thought it odd that a six-year old was taken to midnight movie. I'm a mother of three and would never have taken my children to a movie that late.

                    • 3 votes
                    #19.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

                    This is a horrible tragedy but no fault or judgment should be placed on this mother. A lot of people have difficult lives and use public assistance; that does not mean that they should not get to enjoy a moment of entertainment with friends and family. I can’t say that I would have my children out at a midnight movie but it’s summer time so under normal circumstances not a big deal. We don’t need to judge her. We need to pray for her and all of the victims. I can’t imagine having to rebound from her tragedy or being in that theater. So I won’t pass judgment on her or anyone for being in the theater for a late movie.

                    And my personal belief is that God gave us free will. Free will to get married, skip school, have children and free will to do horrible, horrific things like this. I don’t understand how people can do things like this one bit, but I don’t blame God. And I happen to believe that He is comforting those involved and while they may not feel it now, I pray that eventually they come to know that His love and comfort was there seeing them through this terrible time.

                    • 4 votes
                    #19.9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

                    I agree that this movie and the hour of its showing are both inappropriate for young children.

                      #19.10 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                      You are focusing on what time the movie was playing.....really......it was a FRIDAY NIGHT.....did your parents let you stay up on friday nights? You are incredible......you really need to readjust your thinking.

                        #19.11 - Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:23 AM EDT
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                        No one....NOBODY.....should ever have to worry about going broke because of sickness or injury.

                        When are we going to get our priorities straight in this country???

                        • 24 votes
                        Reply#20 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                        She's already broke. Thats why she's on Medicade. Simply reading the article would have spared us this comment.

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:55 PM EDT
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                        You know for the first time ever I was just thinking the same thing.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#21 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                        Wow, maybe there is hope after all. I'd all but given up.

                          #21.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:58 AM EDT
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                          Comment author avatarSu Turnervia Facebook

                          The place to post is indiegogo DOT COM /ashleymoser

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#22 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:12 PM EDT
                          Comment author avatarSu Turnervia Facebook

                          I meant the place to donate, sorry.

                            Reply#23 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                            This story is completely heartbreaking. I hope this young woman receives both emotional and financial support and is somehow, someday able to recover. All the victims and their families are in my prayers.

                            • 6 votes
                            Reply#24 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                            My post must have upset a few workers at the Red Cross and Salvation Army. If so, I apologize to the fine men and women who donate their time and efforts to help unfortunate people, however, my position has not changed. News articles should include legitimate donation sites who don't skim millions from well meaning people to pay a few slugs at the top, the one's who claim to do all of the important work. The contributions of those managers aren't measurable because most do nothing for their million dollar salaries. It is the volunteers and monetary contributors who make those organizations what they are.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#25 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:30 PM EDT
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