Alleged torture of woman roils Nebraska capital

TED KIRK/Lincoln Journal Star

People gather on the west steps of the Capitol, in Lincoln, Neb., on Sunday during a vigil for a woman who was allegedly attacked in her home early in the morning.

A woman in Nebraska says she was tied up and mutilated in what many are calling a hate crime, according to local reports.

Police in Lincoln, Neb., are investigating the case of a 33-year-old woman who told police three men wearing ski masks broke into her home early Sunday, bound her wrists and ankles with zip ties, beat her and carved anti-gay slurs into her arms and abdomen.

The men also allegedly spray painted a derogatory term for lesbians inside the home and poured gasoline around the house before lighting it with a match. The fire caused no noticeable damage to the house, a city fire inspector said.


The woman said she managed to escape and knocked on a neighbor’s door for help.

“My neighbor was standing there, and she had no clothes on,” Linda Rappl, 68, told NBC affiliate WOWT in Omaha, Neb. “Her hands had been tied with zip ties, and the first thing I saw was blood running down her face.”

Rappl said the sobbing woman had cuts all over her torso, arms and face. Rappl said she brought her neighbor inside and wrapped her in a blanket before calling 911.

Police officials said they wouldn't offer many details concerning the investigation, citing the need to maintain the integrity of the case, but Lincoln police spokeswoman Katie Flood told the Lincoln Journal Star that investigators have no suspects.

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Tyler Richard, president of Outlinc, a nonprofit organization for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in Lincoln, told NBC News that the woman lives openly as a lesbian.

On Sunday night, more than 500 people held a vigil outside the state Capitol, organized by friends of the woman, many of whom are part of the LGBT community.

Lincoln Mayor Chris Beutler and others denounced the attack as a hate crime.

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“Hate crimes are despicable and appalling to me and to all Lincoln residents,” Beutler said in a statement. “Lincoln strives to be a community that embraces tolerance and equality. We stand united with our gay and lesbian citizens in denouncing violence directed at any group.”

“There were things carved on her body that can only be described as hate that somebody can only be taught and we need to stop teaching it,” a friend of the woman’s told WOWT.

Richard told NBC News that Outlinc has full faith in the Lincoln Police Department, citing the agency’s long history of support for the city's LGBT community.

The attack in Lincoln happened about two months after Lincoln officials approved a measure to protect gay and transgendered residents from discrimination in housing, employment and public accommodations. 

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This country is going to hell. Outside of third-world countries, do other countries have the amount of violence and hate found in the U.S.? They may be, comparatively speaking, poorer but do they have @!$%# for brains like so many Americans?

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#1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

That depends on where you are looking.

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#1.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

If this was in Afghanistan the Taliban would have drug her into the street and lopped her head off. A lot of crazy, stupid, bigoted people in the U.S. but it could be worse. Try anywhere in the M.E.

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#1.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

Does anyone know if the police have any proof that this is not a hoax? Many people on other threads are claiming hoax and it has been done before. The woman who scrawled a B on her forehead during the last presidential election, the lesbians who spray painted anti-gay graffiti on their home, and others have done it. Have the police released something stating that they don't believe it's a hoax? If it's not a hoax, I hope they catch the animals. If it is, I hope the police prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law. I know anti-gay violence happens (too much), but when I see articles about stuff being cut into victims’ bodies it raises a red flag for me. Hoaxes like the idiot lesbians who spray painted their own home does not help the LGBT cause. God help us if it's not a hoax.

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#1.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

Does anyone know if the police have any proof that this is not a hoax?

There is a huge difference between Sharpie pen on someone and cuts into flesh......and, ever try to zip tie your own hands?

  • 28 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

Only humans create hell on earth. Outside of that, hell doesn't exist.

And although we may have our share of bigots, morons, and complete utter genetic failures believe me when I say America is still one of the greatest places to live.

If you don't believe me, just ask the millions of illegals that travel to our country every year. Usually when a place is hell, you tend to go the opposite direction. In the case of America, people still seem to be headed our way.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

If her hands were tied in front of her, it could be done using her teeth. But it couldn't be done if they were tied behind her. I wish the police would release that.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

I am sure that the police are testing the zip ties for DNA and other marks to attempt to find the
despicable human (?!!) beings that mutilated and attempted to murder this woman.

Why do people think that just because someone lives openly gay that it will hurt them or put their lifestyle into danger? We have two lesbian households on our block, and I fail to see how they threaten my marriage or how these women will warp my 12 year old son's mind.

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#1.7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

Cheesehead, sorry, but you are clearly off base. Nobody cuts themselves up, goes to a neighbor bound and naked, and starts a fire for a "hoax". It will be investigated as a matter of course, but until there is a reason to believe otherwise, this should be considered a crime.

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

Hi Cheese, Boarder and MBin.

OK, We get it, The US is a great place. I don't think I read anything in any of the other posts that suggested otherwise. So please stay on subject. A woman has been assaulted, seemingly by fellow citizens. So, We do have some very sick people Who call them selves "AMericans". As stated elsewhere in this vine, we also have some institutions, that should know better, that actually promote this kind of thing through their rhetoric.

We have made improvements in our social contract as we have been able to recognize our mistakes. Think of the end of slavery, apologizing to Japanese Americans for the internment that they suffered during the second world war, granting women the right to vote. The list goes on. The fight for rights for the LGBT community, is just the latest improvement that is still in progress.

We are a great nation. Saying that we can be better is not a bad thing.

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:11 PM EDT
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You can thank your local Christian church for preaching this kind of hate. If you are NOT like them and believe what they do then you will be hated and they see nothing wrong with what happened to this lady. Guaranteed. The Christian religion is just another terrorist group. American style. Live in a bible belt and you know what I'm talking about.

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#1.10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

EngEsq, I see your point, but God help us (the LGBT community) if this does turn out to be a hoax. Like I said before, people have carved themselves up before for sympathy. The lady who carved a backwards B in her forehead during the last presidential election comes to mind. I guess the old adage "once bitten, twice shy" applies here. And for the record, I hate that I have doubts about this, but I just wish the police would release some more facts. Why wasn't she gagged? Why was the writing so neatly done downstairs? Why take the time to cover their faces, but not take the time to bind her so she couldn't leave the house? Why only $200 worth of damage when gas was used? Why was she only cut and not raped? If this is a hoax it would be extremely damaging to a community where there are real crimes being committed against us. Look at the couple down in Texas who were recently shot. Regardless of how this turns out, I hope she will be all right.

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#1.11 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

no one starts a fire for a "hoax"

poured gasoline around the house before lighting it with a match. The fire caused no noticeable damage to the house

Not claiming that this is a hoax, but I have never seen a gasoline fire not cause any noticeable damage before, something about this story seems off. There has been several case of self mutilation by activist to create a still of sympathy in the past, people do do some strange things.

If it was done as she claims I hope they are caught, tried and sentenced by the full weight of the law, if on the other hand it is a hoax then the same should happen to her.

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#1.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

I want to agree with EngEsq, and to state further; T

here were an awful lot of folks during the early days of the Zimmerman vs "Martin" killing, that that took Zimmerman's word at face value. yeah, I know let's wait for the court hearing. But still, there were all sorts of inconsistencies in his account from the very beginning. At best I was thinking he was an over confident busybody who got in over his head, and wound up killing someone when things didn't happen according to his fantasy scenario. Yet even though he'd killed an un armed kid, those of us who thought he should have at least gone through standard procedure were called nut-jobs.

From what cheesehead is implying, I wonder what this woman would have to do to generate any sort of belief from this crowd. Carved up, bleeding, naked? Did she need to be holding a body part in her hands? I realize I'm generalizing, about Cheese and his/her "crowd" but having been "bashed" once myself, I kind of take this personally.

Cheese, from your post, I get the uncomfortable vibe, that if these guys present their version of the story, and that if it were easier for you to accept as it fits better with what you think straight men are supposed to be,
(She was a deranged junky, and we had to tie her up to keep her from hurting us.),
you would probably buy it, and (with relief) condemn the victim.

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#1.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

Hi Cheese,
Just read your latest post. Hadn't realized that you were one of the family.

OK, you sound like you are genuinely concerned about "our" community, so, Stop making the case for the other side.

In our present 24 hour instant news coverage world, details come out in spurts. Since this is and on going case, there will be a lot with held so that when/if they do catch the vermin that did this, the process will run smoother. This is the real world, not a made for TV drama. Those of us on the out side will just have to wait. Chill out.

The doubts that you raise are well, so bizarre that it never crossed my mind that you could be LGBT. One would think either you were either a fake member of the community trying to muddy the waters, or someone who is so concerned with your own reputation, that you would rather this victim had just put out the fire, washed off the blood, repainted her wall, put on a band-aid or ten, and shut up so you wouldn't have to worry about, (not her, but) your own social standing.

Put away your fear and concern for yourself and spare a thought for this woman.

  • 4 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

Yeah, MB in Coeur, I'm sure your sentiment makes this victim feel better! Reminds me of my beachy old grandmother.

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#1.15 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

cheesehead -

i live one block away from the lady who was assaulted. It is not a hoax, she didn't do this for attention.

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#1.16 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

Maninjapan, I have thought a lot about this woman and for the women in Texas who were just shot, Brandon Teena, Matthew Sheppard and many many more. Violence to the GLBT community is very real. I’m not disputing that. I just have concerns about this case and what information was released by the police. If a high profile case is found to be a hoax (and I’m not saying this is), it would give so much ammunition to “the other side” as you put it. All I’m saying is I am keeping an open mind. My reputation is not the concern here and it never was. Hoaxes like the lesbians who spray painted slurs on their own home are so harmful. Future victims are not helped by these pathetic cries for attention.

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#1.17 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

Hate...the number one christian value.

Surprised he wasn't quoting the bible as this was being done.

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#1.18 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

Tzalaran, then I am so sorry if anything I wrote hurt you, your neighbors and especially the victim of this awful crime. I hate that this stuff happens in anybody's neighborhood. I hope they find the creeps so you and yours can sleep better at night. Take care.

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#1.19 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

Yea, I have to agree, this one seems a bit far fetched to be real. Probably had someone help her do this to herself. Always some story about masked men breaking into the house. Nah, wanting more attention to her cause is far more likley. Only time will tell, but I think the police will come up emty handed in this case.

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#1.20 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

This coversation has been much more reasonable than I had expected.

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#1.21 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

@ Cheesehead-1110193

There is no need for you to apologize to the people on this vine. What you are doing is called rational thought. Political correctness is only able to work so long as it does not hinder peoples ability to think rationally and without bias. The truth of the matter is that neither Tzalaran or anyone else on this vine was in the house/apartment while this was going on, so no one knows exactly what happened. Some of the details are strange indeed and they do cause me to question the legitimacy of her allegations. I am not saying that it didn't happen the way she said it did, but I am also smart enough to know that if it was a hoax it would by no means be surprising. In fact, for the safety of the LGBT community, I am pulling for this to be a hoax.

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#1.22 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

Chris - I think what cheese was saying is that it is, theoretically, possible that this was a hoax. That is a long way from saying that it probably was a hoax. Do you have any reason to think that she is lying?

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#1.23 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

Oh yes, Myuki1, lets divert our hate from the gay community, and hate the religious community....oh yes, that will quell these pesky ol' hate crimes....... pathetic...

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#1.24 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

Cheesehead-1110193

Tzalaran, then I am so sorry if anything I wrote hurt you, your neighbors and especially the victim of this awful crime. I hate that this stuff happens in anybody's neighborhood. I hope they find the creeps so you and yours can sleep better at night. Take care.

no need to apologize. My wife is very shaken by this since we have many LGBT friends that come over, and we don't like to see humans treated in this manner. i just wanted to clear up that this lady has absolutely no reason to be doubted from what we know now. That could turn out to be wrong by me (i've been wrong before and all...), but the police have found nothing to discredit any of this woman's account of the event, and are searching for 3 masked men. We are hoping that something breaks to allow lincoln's finest to apprehand the perpitrators of the crime.

i agree that this type of thing shouldn't happen to anyone. we'd all be better off if we dropped all the labels that divide us and just look at one another as human equals.

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#1.25 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

Savages. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

As for the anti-Christian bigotry on this page... we can do without that as well.

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#1.26 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:06 AM EDT

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    #1.27 - Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:07 AM EDT
    Reply

    The world is watching you now Nebraska. We are sure you can find these 3 people. Don't disappoint us.

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    #2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

    Okay the only reason this is a big deal is because this crap does not normally happen in Nebraska. (nor should it) Thus it calls for national attention. NBC sensationalism at it again. Where are all the news coverage of rapes, murders and violent crimes in NYC? St. Louis? Chicago?, etc...

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    #2.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

    I wouldn't classify this as sensationalism rather I would consider this to be another symptom, as the theater shooting in Aurora, CO, of a larger issue. It may seem trite and simplistic, but there isn't enough compassion and love. There is too much hate and lack of respect for one another.

    The criticism of NBC, or other media, shouldn't be directed at reporting these issues, it should be directed at our collective leadership for not addressing this. And, by addressing it, I don't mean a nicely worded empathic speach after meeting with victims or ablique references to our collective sorrow. We need leaders to take action.

    Addressing hate and promoting love is, as my brethern on the right would point out, a very Christian value. And, my brethern on the left believe to be a moral imperative. Shouldn't we find the common ground and work on it?

    • 8 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

    You do realize that it is also Christians, who promote hate against the LGBT community right?

    Christianity promotes love for those who abide by it.

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    #2.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

    To Lost in the Shuffle.... Having morals and values does not define one as "Christian".

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    #2.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

    I'm surprised this happened in Lincoln because it is a college town with a fair amount of diversity. What is wrong with people...

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    #2.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

    Agree with Lisa, my wife and I are atheist and have affection and love for others. One does not need to be Christian to love others and support them in times of need.

    Shuffle, please don't take offense but having morals is not hand and hand with religion.

    Eng, it does not matter where you live. It will always be there. People will always hate on someone other for what ever it be. Color, sex, age, and social class, etc as we see today.

    • 8 votes
    #2.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

    To EngEsq...Hatred happens everywhere. I don't care where you live there will always be people who feel their opinion is the way things should be viewed by all.

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    #2.7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

    Where are all the news coverage of rapes, murders and violent crimes in NYC? St. Louis? Chicago?, etc.

    On the front page of the NBC news site. Did you miss the one about the boy killed in the NYC playground? Oh wait, that doesn't back up YOUR nonsense!

    • 6 votes
    #2.8 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

    Addressing hate and promoting love is, as my brethern on the right would point out, a very Christian value. And, my brethern on the left believe to be a moral imperative. Shouldn't we find the common ground and work on it?

    I was kind of with you until THIS paragraph! If you wonder why so many are turned off by "Christianity", this would be one of the answers. Morality and promoting love is NOT restricted to Christians, or any other religions for that matter. In fact, some of the most most moral and upright people I know subscribe to NO religion. If you want to find some common ground to work on these issues .... get away from tying morality and religion together.

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    #2.9 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

    Beth, I believe you misread his comment. He said that people on the "right" (many of whom tend to be Christians) would say that love is a Christian value. Then he said that people on the "left" (many of whom are not Christians or even religious) would call love a moral imperative. This runs counter to your assertion that the author was tying morality to Christianity. He clearly did not. A moral imperative need not be a religious one. He differentiated.

    • 6 votes
    #2.10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

    Nikolaus -- I'm not so sure. But if he responds, I'd be happy to admit I'm wrong.

      #2.11 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

      Anyone who thinks there is diversity in Lincoln, NE has never lived there. My husband and I lived there in 2003 when he was transferred to the National Guard base, outside the college area, everyone is white and proud of it. I've never met more racist, intolerant people in my entire life. Glad to say I don't live there anymore!

        #2.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

        Full disclosure Juliane, I have only been there once and it was on the college campus to get a contract signed for some sponsored research. The college itself seemed racially diverse and I would have assumed that it extended to some degree into the town. I may be mistaken.

          #2.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

          EngEsq

          I'm surprised this happened in Lincoln because it is a college town with a fair amount of diversity. What is wrong with people...

          yes, Lincoln is diverse with many refugee families. My sons' elementary school had children from 98 different countries and the diversity night at the school was fabulous. all kinds of great foods that were shared. However, Lincoln/Omaha are the black sheep of the state. not 15 minutes from the city borders it is nothing but fields and rednecks. Racism and hatred run rampant in certain sections of the population here, but generally they aren't so aggressive as this. it is one thing for a group of hicks to beat up on some gays they come across, quite another to plot and plan to break into a woman's house and torture her. i don't think it is a coincidence that the Pride rally was less than a week before this assault occurred...

          Juliane -

          My neighborhood is very diverse, and my kids don't see color when looking at other humans. i've lived in Lincoln most of my life and it certainly isn't the way you describe it. We have the highest per capita LGBT community in the nation, and this is the first time i can remember a hate crime on this level happening here. Lincoln is certainly not a bastion of white power supporters, out in western NE that is a bigger possibility, but the lincoln/omaha corridor is just as diverse as the east or west coast. From what you have said, we're glad you don't live here anymore as well.

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          #2.14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

          Gin and Beth, Nikolaus said, far better than I, what I was trying to convey. My apologies for not making myself understood.

          "Beth, I believe you misread his comment. He said that people on the "right" (many of whom tend to be Christians) would say that love is a Christian value. Then he said that people on the "left" (many of whom are not Christians or even religious) would call love a moral imperative. This runs counter to your assertion that the author was tying morality to Christianity. He clearly did not. A moral imperative need not be a religious one. He differentiated."

          • 2 votes
          #2.15 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:40 PM EDT
          Reply

          We're trying Eric, we're trying......

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          Reply#3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

          While I am not a fan of gays, this was uncalled for.

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          #4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

          not a fan of gays?

          gays are americans. gays are humans.

          stop the division.

          • 22 votes
          #4.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

          While I am not a fan of gays

          'gays' are humans, each person different. My 78 yr old mother will be disappointed that you are not her 'fan'... no knitted socks for you...

          My star employee, could care if you are a 'fan', but despite your glaring heterosexuality, he will wait on you anyway, if you come in.

          Don't get me started on my hairdresser.....

          • 15 votes
          #4.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

          I am not a fan of homophobes, but that does not stop you from living your own life and doing what it is you like to do without being ridiculed, picked on, stared at or tortured for that matter...

          If you have two men or two women who obstain from obscene public displays of affection, they should have the ability to live how they want to live...I feel a hetero public display of affection is uncalled for as well.

          There is no guy in the sky dictacting who should be attracted to who or who should be allowed to roll in the sack with who, either, so people who give you the religious excuses about how these people will go to hell. Have FAITH in yourself if you need to have FAITH and quit pinning your problems on some made up fictional man. If you don't like it, turn your head, but leave out the rest.

          Bottom line is, nobody deserves this treatment. Period.

          • 14 votes
          #4.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

          While not a fan of gays...I'm sure they are all sitting around desiring your approval...you probably aren't a fan of anything outside of your narrow minded worldview...

          • 15 votes
          #4.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

          I think we are being a little unfair to "viewer" here. The gay community asks us to accept them, as they are not hurting others. I agree. I have many gay friends -- both male and female. I even agree that same sex marriage does not hurt others, so have no problem with it either.

          However, the gay community owes others the same courtesy. As long as others don't discriminate against, or hurt them in other ways, leave them to their beliefs ... even if you don't agree with them or it's not your lifestyle. Afterall, isn't that what YOU are really looking for?

          Although I think viewer put it rather crudely, the message I got from that was "even though I don't like the gay lifestyle, hurting people is wrong". Maybe I got the wrong message ... or maybe I just didn't have a knee jerk reaction to it

          Remember, live and let live works BOTH ways. As long as you are not hurting or discriminating against each other ... no problem.

          • 7 votes
          #4.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

          No, they probably aren't waiting for his appoval. But the man does have a right to his opinion, as we ALL do. Just because it's not the same as yours doesn't make it wrong. It's called freedom of speech. As long as he isn't legally discriminating, he can feel any way he likes. You cannot legislate hate out of people. No law is going to change the way he feels.

          • 6 votes
          #4.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

          Oh gee thanks Viewer

          tyfybs

            #4.7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

            The fact that you even put out words like, "While not a fan of the gays..." is what leads to hate crimes like this. Sure, you may not have any violent intent but your kind of attitude is what leads to less stable people to commit those crimes. We all influence one another in our communities whether we realize it or not. When something like this happens, people like you are responsible. You may not have committed the crime but you certainly spread the kind of vitriol that leads to these kinds of crimes.

            • 5 votes
            #4.8 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

            and BTW Viewer

            Have you met all the gays? How can you say you're not a fan? I happen to be one of the nicest and funniest "gays" I know. I dont' think I have ever had the pleasure meeting you. Too bad too. I think maybe you would change your tune if you had.

            • 7 votes
            #4.9 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

            Viewer_Ready

            I think you would do better to learn to distinguish between beliefs/choice and the individual. For example, there is a fundamental difference between me saying I don't like hunting vs. I don't like hunters. When you say you are not a fan of gays, you are saying that you are prejudiced against persons who have different beliefs and values than you. That is a form of bigotry. The inability to distinguish between people and their values or behaviors is fundamental to humanity. There are a lot of things I dislike. I lot of my friends do things I don't like. But I don't dislike them.

            • 1 vote
            #4.10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

            Not a fan of "gays"? Meaning what? I'm gay and have been in a monogamous relationship for 22 years. I vote Democrat, like classical music and jazz, have blue eyes, blond hair, speak Dutch and German, and ride horseback. As you are not a "fan of gays", are you uncomfortable with monogamy, liberals, classical music and jazz, blue eyes, blond hair, Dutch and German languages, or horses? Which is it? All of these things and more make me who I am. I am not what I do in bed, any more than you are. I am a person who happens to be gay, not the other way around.

            • 10 votes
            #4.11 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

            Nikolaus -- you can't change everyone's beliefs. Viewer was advocating AGAINST violence, while admitting to his own prejudice. While I don't agree with Viewer's beliefs, neither do I think you should berate him about it. Do you think that will help him realize that you are a good person even if you "happen to be gay"?

            Does everyone have to agree with you for you to be happy? How about "live and let live" with equal rights, no discrimination and no violence? Won't that do it for you? That's what the rest of us strive for. You cannot FORCE people to like you.

            • 3 votes
            #4.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

            True, I can't make anyone like ME, but they will never know me if they can't get past the GROUP that they see me in. When people, even good and well intentioned people, say that they are not "fans of gays", etc., they unwittingly set the stage for further discrimination against gays by defining them BY their "group", not seeing them as individuals with distinct human lives. In WW2 Germany, people were desensitized towards Jews as human beings. Their Jewish neighbors ceased being "Josef and Aenne, who taught at the university and who played the piano and violin beautifully", becoming instead, "the Jews". Easy to make blanket statements about any group, and easy to jump from that to discrimination. A "group" doesn't have a human face.

            • 6 votes
            #4.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

            I agree with you. A group DOESN'T have a human face ... we do it all the time ... especially in times of hardship and stress. But does berating the person do any good? I think not. Do you think you might have had (or still have) more influence if you invited people to get to know you rather than coming down on them because they don't?

            Looking at someone who is good intentioned, do you think they will STAY good intentioned after the attack he/she got here? Do you think they will be more or less likely to want to know YOU as a human face?

            Think about it.

            • 2 votes
            #4.14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

            Now after sitting back and watching all of the above I have something to say.

            First of all we are ALL prejudiced at something or someone.

            What happened to the lady was wrong on many levels.

            I do have gay friends and they are good people, but they also know where I stand on the issue.

            I personally do not think you were "born that way" if you are gay.

            If that's what you want to believe, go ahead.

            I have a daughter who for a while "thought" she was gay, then changed her mind.

            All I know is that well over 98% of the earths population is NOT gay.

            And those of us who are not gay WERE "born that way".

            If you choose to be gay, I don't care.

            If you want to marry, I don't care either.

            But I do not have to personally approve (and you do not have to approve of me as well).

            • 2 votes
            #4.15 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

            I don't approve of gays either. And it isn't the color of their hair or whether or not they ride horses. How ridiculous. It is the "gay" part I don't approve of. Most of you posting on here wouldn't approve of me either, but I won't get my panties in a wad over it, because your opinion doesn't matter to me. I don't "hate" gays, I just think the lifestyle is disgusting, and I have every right to do so. The thing that incenses me and may have had some influence on the attackers, is the lewd, sickening displays at gay pride events. The marchers do everything they can to to disgust those who don't approve anyway. That is surely the way to gain acceptance. Being an animal lover, I used to support PETA until they started appearing naked in public. Now I think PETA is a joke. Same with gays. Why can't they show some dignity and respect the opinions of others who don't agree with them instead of trying to offend? Deliberately offending someone will eventually lead to violence by someone who lacks restraint. They provoke at these events and then whine and cry foul when it results in violence. Much of the blame for this crime lies with the gay community itself.

              #4.16 - Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:25 AM EDT
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              NO ONE deserves being the target of a hate crime.

              Hunt these three men down and make an example of them. They should face long prison sentences.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

              Despicable! What can possibly motivate such hate in humans?!?!

              • 3 votes
              Reply#6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

              Dudes with small peckers.

              • 9 votes
              #6.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

              Sadly, it is taught in many churches and homes.

              • 22 votes
              #6.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

              Punisher and Vttova...you're both right.

              • 1 vote
              #6.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

              vttova...What churches are you speaking of..Specifically, what do they teach?

              • 1 vote
              #6.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

              Mark DW

              What churches are you speaking of..Specifically, what do they teach

              Nice try.....If you are genuinely that ill-informed......google Christianity/ homosexuality.

              • 4 votes
              #6.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

              Mark,

              What churches are you speaking of

              The Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, most (if not all) Evangelical churches, et al.

              Specifically, what do they teach?

              Leviticus 20:13.

              • 1 vote
              #6.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

              Gay pride events, with men slobbering on men and wearing pink G-strings while marching down the street. I don't waste my time thinking about homosexuals, but when I see the pictures of these events I feel total disgust. How could I possibly respect someone like that?

                #6.7 - Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

                @Hambone

                Leviticus 20:13 make no mention of lesbians, the literal Hebrew translation is If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (KJV)

                • 2 votes
                #6.8 - Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:26 PM EDT
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                Actions like this wouldn't happen if EVERYONE condemned them. Of course the selfish A-Holes who just have to get their 2 cents in by saying mean and nasty stuff are solely responsible for prepetuating the hate. Not so funny after someone was terrorized in her own home. In the Midwest of all places!! The heartland. <sigh>

                • 4 votes
                Reply#7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJoe-3144156Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                thats is so hot

                  Reply#8 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                  No doubt some "true believers" did that...

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#9 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                  Actually, there is doubt. Plenty of non-believers are homophobes too. Instead of calling homosexuality "against God" they call it "against nature" or "against good social order". Twisted people can always rationalize hatred.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:48 PM EDT
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                  Wow! My heart goes out to this woman. And I agree with vttova. Even seemingly innocent statements like Viewer Ready's, "I'm no fan of gays", has some really ugly undertones.

                  So Viewer, are you "a fan of" say, heterosexual-terrorists? or heterosexual-murderer's? This woman was almost killed, will probably be scared emotionally and physically for life, and yet you feel compelled to announce here, and now, your solidarity on at least one level with her tormentors. Viewer Ready, you are part of the problem.

                  I know that this woman won't read this, but I send this woman love, and healing energy.
                  be strong my sister

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                  Have you counted the hateful, inciteful comments made on here toward Christianity? Why is that so acceptable to you? I assume it is since you didn't say anything against that. Nothing in the news article said the attackers were Christian. In fact, it would be obvious to anyone who had any sense that they weren't. The word "Christian" means "Christ-like," and I can't see Jesus doing something like this. You haters want to wallow and gloat in your hatred so badly you are blind to the fact that not everyone who calls himself a Christian is one. In fact, most are not. Your cruelty toward Christians who had nothing to do with this is no different than the things you falsely accuse them of. Your comments just incite other haters to attack Christians. What a crock of hypocrisy.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.1 - Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:40 AM EDT
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                  When you have a culture that nurtures bigotry and encourages violence against, and abuse of those who are "different", this is the kind of barbarism you should expect.

                  Until we are a nation that has the moral courage to embrace the reality of the modern world and not be stuck in the social concepts of a nomadic tribe living over 2000 years ago, this kind of ignorant bigotry will linger.

                  Bigotry is for those who wish to feel superior about their inferiority of spirit, character, and intelligence.

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#11 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                  I just can't rap my head around cr@p like this. One of the best next door neighbors I ever had is a lesbian. Gays are just people no different from any other people. The perps need to be hunted down and put in prison. Hopefully they will learn much about same sex sex while there.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                  I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was driven by religious motives. There isn't any other group of folks I know that are anti-gay in such a hateful, hell condemning way. And the two most outspoken religions in the world today against gays are Christianity, and Islam. In fact, both have very similar views on homosexuality.

                  I will hold my position on this assumption until they find the perps... but considering the facts as of now, it would be hard pressed to believe otherwise.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                  Hate that it happened, glad it wasn't worse, and hope the find the people who did it before they do it again.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                  Agreed, it could have been much worse had the fire spread and she been incapacitated.

                  • 1 vote
                  #14.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:06 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  No doubt the perps were raised in a fine midweatern christian family...

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#15 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

                  There is a lot of that kind of "christianity" going around all over the country.

                  • 8 votes
                  #15.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

                  Why attack Christains, you have no proof. Blind hate at its worst your no better than them(the 3 attackers).

                  • 3 votes
                  #15.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

                  Russ.. Why you ask?.. Because of the hate in his own heart..

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

                  I think the enormous amount of hate crimes against gay people previously being perpetuated by christians is proof enough. This incident may not have been a christian on gay crime but many others are...their point is valid.

                  • 2 votes
                  #15.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                  Point being, because someone does not believe in Christianity and beats someone gay, is it because Atheists are taught to hate gays?? Their point is not valid... Their point is hating Christianity..

                  I go to church (not regularly) and there are gay people in my life that I love and adore.. I guess it was what I was taught..

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:16 PM EDT
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                  WE have the shooting in Colorado, we have this in Nebraska. We , since 9/11, seem to have developed a profound mistrust of anyone or anything "different" We buy more guns, lock more doors, are more suspicious of people of color (Trayvon Martin come to mind?). We attack cab drivers because they wear a turban (of course they are Sikhs not Muslims but that is a small distinction to the hate filled). We need to turn back to the America that welcomed people. Assumed they were good citizens unless they proved otherwise. We are a country of immigrants and we need to keep that in mind. We are also a country of gay, straight and transgender people and have been since its inception. Let us not let our former Puritan values cloud the wonderful country this has become

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#16 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

                  3 men afraid of one Lesbian woman. What a bunch of LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Fear much Fellas?

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#18 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                  They obviously weren't afraid of her, I would say they hated her with so much hate... that it could have only been taught from only a handful of sources...

                  • 1 vote
                  #18.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                  I don't think they would have done this if they weren't afaird.

                  Cowards

                  • 3 votes
                  #18.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                  Borderlands,

                  Most bullies attack because they are afraid of something. The lady probably talked back to them after being verbally assaulted or they saw her as a threat to their tiny scrotums. People use religion as a reason to follow through with hate filled actions. It is a crutch to justify ignorant and stupid hatred. I would agree with Brook totally since three men attacking one woman or another man is a cowardly act.

                  Lazarus

                  • 2 votes
                  #18.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:01 PM EDT
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                  There is only one suitable punishment for this crime. Unfortunately the U.S. Constitution prohibits the proper punishment. And oh yes, I am a Bible reading, Church going Christian.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#19 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                  You can thank your local Christian church for preaching this kind of hate. If you are NOT like them and believe what they do then you will be hated and they see nothing wrong with what happened to this lady. Guaranteed. The Christian religion is just another terrorist group. American style. Live in a bible belt and you know what I'm talking about.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#20 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                  A silly, blanket statement, akin to saying something like, "All gays are pedophiles!" Some Christian churches, Anglicans and Quakers among them, do not preach hate of any kind, and welcome gays and lesbians as members, and other denominations, though divided on the topic of homosexuality, likewise do not promote hate. SOME Christian denominations do. Focus on them instead of resorting to the same tactics as haters on the other side. Not seeing people for the individuals that they are, gay OR Christian, = ignorance.

                  • 5 votes
                  #20.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

                  you are doing a great disservice with your stereotyping here. i'm not Christian, but their religion (like most religions...) is based on love. Love your neighbor is the biggest rule Jesus laid down for his followers; however, humans have twisted this message to serve their own purposes just as the fundamentalist Muslims bring shame to their religion, just as the orders of Imperialist Shinto brought shame upon the japanese religion during WWII.

                  don't blame the religion because you don't follow or agree with it, or because you had bad experiences with someone in that religion. Blame the people who did this, as no god worthy of following would prescribe this type of action on another human.

                  • 3 votes
                  #20.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:40 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Three cowards attacking a single woman and then they run off and hide their small dangling digits.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#21 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                  Probably 3 "good christian men."

                  Preach love; practice hate. Atheists don't have all these wacko beliefs.

                  Nope -- it's christains, for sure.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#22 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                  To be fair, we also have bad actors in our ranks. At least we cannot justify our bad behaviour on our non-belief in god however... it just turns out that they are crappy people without divine help. :)

                  • 3 votes
                  #22.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                  There most certainly are homophobic atheists with wacky beliefs. Instead of using God to justify their bigotry, they invoke "science" or "social order". Entire COUNTRIES like Communist China do this.

                  • 1 vote
                  #22.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:32 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  We humans are a lot closer to our animal friends than we like to admit. (Sorry, that's an insult to animals.)

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#23 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

                  It is an insult to animals. I can think of no animal that would be so cruel to its own for absolutely no reason.

                    #23.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:54 PM EDT
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                    I am so sick of hearing about gay this lesbian that. Who the hell cares. They are NOT special but the media makes an effort to headline @!$%# like this. Keep your gay ways in your own homes!! Why don't people concentrate on the homeless, the starving, abused children in this country. That is WAY more meaningful and important a cause then this @!$%#.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#24 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

                    Well, I would say because the crime was perpetrated specifically because she was a lesbian...

                    That would be a good reason for "gay this and lesbian that"

                    • 5 votes
                    #24.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                    She's not trying to be special. She's trying to be equal. Let me know the next time someone gets tortured because they are straight.

                    • 7 votes
                    #24.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

                    I don't know if you noticed but she was in her home when they broke in and attacked her. gays and lesbians are also starving, homeless and abused as children. IT is an affront to all of us who love and value others.

                    • 4 votes
                    #24.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

                    She was in her own home,

                    These men cam in and tried to kill her. And you don't want to hear about it? do you have an alibi for the time of the crime?

                    • 4 votes
                    #24.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

                    how about you keep your bigoted ways in your bigoted home. Eventually the gays will start fighting back and people like you are going to find yourself on the side of a savage beating. To be honest, you got it coming.

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                    How can you be sick of hearing about "gay this and that" If you CHOOSE to read stories about "gay this and that"? If you were part of a group of people that had been marginalized, limited, ridiculed, beaten, jailed, and killed for centuries because of who they were, stories about continued injustices and advancements made in human rights would mean something to you. They would also mean something to you if you were a thinking, empathetic, justice seeking straight person, which you are not. People are sick of hearing about "bigoted this and that" too, and every time people like you stand up in public, you will be knocked down. Get used to it.

                    • 4 votes
                    #24.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:18 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    More good tidings from the Homophobic Christian/Religious love community. Pretty soon the conservative(spiritually speaking) Christians can join hands with the Muslims in a Brotherly bond to rid the world of all the unbelievers and sinners. This is brought to you by the same Jewish Old Testament that both subscribe to.

                    Amen :(

                    Lazarus

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#25 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                    see my response, 20.2 above...

                    • 1 vote
                    #25.1 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:43 PM EDT
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                    Borderlands, this is where all the "good paying" jobs are, compared to the way things are for poor people in Mexico, Central American, and So America, right?

                      Reply#26 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:54 PM EDT
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