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Baby Hugo was born at 7:11 a.m. local time on Tuesday.
AURORA, Colo. – He’s the tiny miracle after the tragedy of Aurora.
Hugo Jackson Medley was born at 7:11 a.m. local time on Tuesday, according to University of Colorado Hospital spokesman Dan Weaver. Both mother and child are doing well.
His mother, Katie Medley, escaped the Colorado movie theater attack uninjured, but her husband, Caleb, is in the same hospital in a medically-induced coma fighting for his life.
High school sweethearts
High school sweethearts, Katie and Caleb Medley started dating during their senior year in the small town of Florence, Colo., according to their close friend Michael West, who has become their family spokesman.
“You could just tell that out of everyone in the world, these two were meant for each other,” West wrote on a website dedicated to Caleb that he created to raise money to cover his friend’s medical bills. As of Tuesday afternoon, the website has had 2,600 donors who have given about $90,000.
TODAY
Katie Medley, who was nine-months pregnant when she was at the movie theater where the Aurora shooting happened, delivered her son, Hugo, on Tuesday morning. Her husband, Caleb, right, is in critical condition in the hospital from gun shot wounds sustained during the attack.
In eighth grade, Caleb, now 23, decided he wanted to be a standup comedian. So after he and Katie, 21, got married they moved to Denver, where he could chase his dream.
In an Internet video titled “Caleb Saves the Internet: Saving the One Nighter,” he chronicles life on the road as a struggling comic.
He jokes about staying in a seedy motel room with a busted deadbolt and stains on the wall. But Caleb was making progress. Last Wednesday night, he performed stand up at the New Faces Contest at Comedy Works South in Denver, according to the Denver Post. He did well enough to advance to the next round of a comedy festival.
It was to be a big week for the couple. Not only was Caleb getting comedy gigs, but he was about to become a father. Katie, a veterinary student, was nine months pregnant and her doctor planned to induce labor on Monday, July 23.
One last date night
Katie and Caleb decided to treat themselves to one last night out before they needed a babysitter. Even though she was nine months pregnant, they were huge Batman fans and they were not going to miss opening night.
NBC's Kate Snow reports on the shooting suspects court appearance Monday, as well as the status of some of the shooting victims, including Caleb Medley.
"They had Batman apparel on. They waited for this movie for over a year,” said David Sanchez, Katie Medley’s father.
“They were having the normal opening night movie experience,” their friend Michael West wrote, recounting a conversation he had with Katie. “They stood anxiously in line, spent too much on popcorn and soda, suffered through the movie trailers and watched the beginning of the movie. That is when evil struck.”
“I thought it was a prank at first or someone playing along with the movie,” Katie told him, West writes. “Then he opened fire.”
Caleb was shot in the face. He was put in the back of a police cruiser and driven to University of Colorado hospital. The website says he has lost his right eye, suffered brain damage and is in a medically-induced coma.
Katie’s father, Sanchez, was at the Arapahoe County courthouse Monday to see the man he blames for ruining what was supposed to be a joyous time for the family. He said his daughter had asked him to come since she was in no state to attend herself.
“When it’s your own daughter and she escaped death by just mere seconds, I would say, it really makes you angry,” he told a group of reporters outside the courthouse where the shooting suspect James Eagan Holmes made a brief appearance Monday.
Asked about his son-in-law, Caleb, he said, “He's in critical but stable condition, so we're praying for him. I think the main concern is him right now, and the baby being born.”
Like many of the young 20-somethings at the movies that terrible night, the Medleys have no health insurance, according to their friend West.
“Caleb and his family have no insurance, and these hospital bills are going to be well into the hundreds if not thousands if not millions. Caleb and Katie will be struggling with these hospital bills for the rest of their lives,” West wrote on the website.
In two remarkable stories of survival, one woman saves the life of her best friend, and a father protects his son's girlfriend after she was badly wounded. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
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To everyone who took the time to chastise a young couple for falling in love and having a child in these tough economic times, focusing on their decision to pursue their lives in a different fashion than your own, please remember the saying: "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged." My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the victims in Aurora, and I hope that recovery for this young father comes quickly so that he can raise his son.
Well stated. Why does meanness come out in so many people?
Workhardplayhard--and yet YOU just judged. Sorry, but there was an article just today on MSN that states that 37% of all pregnancies are UNPLANNED. And guess what? That is the surest predictor of POVERTY, both for the parents AND the child, in a never ending cycle.
My thoughts and prayers also go out to all the victims in Aurora, and while I hope this young father recovers, for his and his family's sake, IF that is not possible, I hope God takes him quickly.
And I would also hope that every other young person out there who thinks it would be cool to have a child when they are not financially stable enough to provide not only health insurance, but ALSO disability insurance, and LIFE insurance to ensure that potential child's future, will thing TWICE about it, and step back and do some PLANNING.
Because you never know when some nut will come along. And that is NOT meanness--that is reality. Life is what happens to you when you were making OTHER plans. But a responsible person covers all the bases BEFORE bringing yet another life into the mix. WHERE is your 'Christian' feelings about the life of baby Hugo if his father is in a coma for 5 years, and he is raised in poverty?
MOmaid, Chances are if everyone waited until the could afford to have a baby there would be no children. Since the average cost of raising a child is over $180,000 no many people have that kind of money. Most of us "little people" tend to have babies despite having the $180,000. We scarifice so we give to our children, it called being a parent. I guess wealthy people like you don't understand scarifice. You just throw money at your kids and then they grow up to be self absorb, entitled, little a**holes, who walk around acting like everyone one everyone owes them something. Sort of like your Presidential Nominee. Did you hear how rude he and his crew were at a restuarant? Treated the owner like serf, and ruined her restuarant. She was even a Republican. That is entitlement for ya!
God it must be so wonderful to be so rich, you think you can talk about Christian values while telling someone they made a mistake bring a baby into this world. People like you make me sick. You probably don't provide your employees health insurance but then you critize them for not having it!! When major corporations like Walmart, Staples, Godfathers Pizza, don't offer health insurance benefits how can anyone critize this young couple for not having it?
If someone has a great paying job/or has a job that offers HI and chooses to go without health insurance, that is different than the million of workers who work for billion dollar companies that don't offer health insurance. I am sympathic to small business who can't afford health insurance for their employees and Obama care is suppose to help them with the cost of providing insuranc. But when a company like Walmart uses loopholes in their policy to get away with NOT provide access to health care then they be damned!
blueingoregon
Chances are if everyone waited until the could afford to have a baby there would be no children.
then by all means, let there be no children.
Do you people even realize that even with insurance, this kind of medical catastrophe would destroy all but the wealthiest in our society? If he has brain damage, his medical bills will end up being thousands a year for life, and he won't be able to work! Medical insurance has deductables, co pays and all, and how is he supposed to pay the premiums without being able to work? You guys just don't have a clue. My mom has been in a nursing home for a very long time, and her bills wiped out all her savings and she is on medicaid now. That is exactly what will happen to every single one of those greedy, selfish republicans if they live long enough!
Melba--sorry, but my Aunt also burned through all her money and ended up impoverished in a nursing home.
On the other hand, my father, who worked hard all his life (did not even start drawing SS until he was 72 and they MADE him, and kept working until 77) SAVED for his old age, and also bought nursing home insurance, disability insurance etc. and while his care (including 5 years in a SPECIALIZED nursing home and two surgeries) did take a lot of his savings, (he died at 89 of Alzheimers), he would have had to live until 110 years to come close to that.
And you know what? He paid for those things (insurance, savings, etc. ) FIRST, then decided what he could afford to do after, and NOT the reverse. He grew UP in the depression, and served in WWII, put himself through college, and EARNED every penny he ever made. And while he 'tended' towards being a CONSERVATIVE fiscally, he was pro choice, pro gay rights, etc.
And he was NEVER greedy or selfish. NEITHER did he expect ANYONE else to have to pay for HIM.
YOU DO know it is JUST as greedy and selfish to want something someone ELSE has as it is to want to keep it?
MOmaid
Wow, the only time you didn't throw your opinion out there was when people were talking about how it would be cool to donate a little to them.
Contributions are coming in for the families. If anyone would like to contribute, this site has been set up to contribute. Governor Hickenlooper, of Colorado, has acknowledged this is the official site to help. Warner Bros. has given $1,000,000.
The site is: www.GivingFirst.org
Please contribute, every little donation helps it grow! It is at $2,000,000 now and much more is needed. Thanks!
This story broke my heart, but I have a hard time with placement of the suspect's video appearing in the middle of the article. Quit focusing on him, please
Maybe Romoney will help these kids out with a sizable monetary donation.........hey he can deduct the donation when he pays his income tax..................oh wait a minute................my bad - Sorry
Well since you brought it up. I wonder how much Joe Biden will contribute? Didn't he give a whopping 1.5% to charity with an income of $380,000?
Wow. It's easier for James Holmes to acquire all sorts of very dangerous guns (including automatics) than it is for Caleb Medley to get health insurance. And the result? His friends have to hold the equivalent of an Internet-bake sale to try to get help with his medical bills when he gets gunned down by Holmes. Sad on so many levels.
If the republicans had their way, we would get vouchers for our medical care and then the insurance companies would jack up the price of the insurnace so we still would have adquate health care in this country. I heard a report the other day that said, what Americans spend on health insurance every year would cover every single man woman and child for any ailment they have. That is staggering!
Republicans just want to keep enriching the rich and powerful, after all that is their base, and they don't care about 99% of this country struggling to keep or have health care. a47% of this country are stupid enough to believe that Republicans are "on their side" facts won't even disaude them!! Wake up America, stop voting against your own best interests! Your party has morphed into something that only serves the wealthy and they would run you down in the street if it meant they could assist a billionaire!
Elizabeth--see, the difference was, the shooter was willing to sacrifice buying other things in order to buy his guns.
Not so much those who don't spend money to buy health insurance and yet get pregnant.
And as a VET student I DO believe she knows how babies happen.
Blueinoregon--you just MADE the best argument to repeal Obama care!
The POS insurance companies ARE the problem. How on EARTH do we fix that by forcing 30 million NEW unwilling folks to ALSO contribute to the health insurance industry?
If you want to pass a national health care system, so be it, altho it is very expensive and not so successful as many would have you believe, but THIS pos only contributes to the problem, and does not even cover everyone. If that is the DEMS' plan to make life better, NO thanks.
I am ALL for a national health care program but at least Obamacare makes some sort of effort to get everyone covered, this horrible voucher program the Republicans have is criminal. Maybe if they set limits on what the insurance companies could charge, say the amount of the voucher, but without a cap the insurance companies will rape us!! Right now I and the company I work for pay $1200 a month, if health insurance companies think I can afford that and I get a "voucher" for $1200 you know the insurance company will start charging me, $2800 a month. They will double their profit and cut the care get.
The theory is the cost will be spread out more. I doubt it but at least the cost won't go up as extremely for a while.
How is someone not having health coverage better than not having health coverage. believe me American are great at pulling the best of something and blending with the best of something else and make a better product. If we could stop fighting and actually talk about how to improve health care for everyone instead of just trying to make insurance companies wealthier then we would have better health care.
I suggest take the profit out of health care. It wasn't until Nixon was President that the bloodsucking insurance companies got involved. The should all be NOT for Profit agencies. Their focus should be about patient care not profits and shareholders. Somethings should be about more than profit helping others should be one of them!
He had no automatic weapons.
You can't blast them for not having health insurance and being pregnant. There is no law stating they would need to go to the hospital to have a baby. And if you have a normal vaginal delivery you are only in the hospital for 24 hours. Its something most people could pay off.
Give them a break. They only went to the movie-its not like they were shot at while boarding a plane to Hawaii or at a craps table in Vegas. It was a treat for them. I bet this couple lives fugally.
peppy--sorry, but nearly 1/3 of all births in the US are by C-section, which is major surgery, and nearly always requires more than 24 hours in hospital.
And my third child, after a perfectly normal pregnancy, and not hint of anything wrong, was born with High blood pressure. Our deductible/co-pay ALONE was over $3000. The actual BILLS for his care were closer to $15K in the first 3 months.
That is why you HAVE insurance, because things do NOT always go 'right'.
And evidently, this couple does NOT live frugally. they could have gone to a Saturday matinee, and not gotten popcorn/sodas/candy, and saved a lot of money. they could ALSO have not been wearying 'dark night rises' SHIRTS.
I bet you are one of those who has a computer, flat screen HDTV, cable, lots of video's and games (plus a game player, a cell phone that cost more than my TV, and an expensive plan, lots of stylish clothes, loves to go out to the bars a couple of days a week, and cannot afford health insurance.
As my kids hated me to say when growing up:
Lack of planning on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on the part of anyone else.
And why are there so many c-sections? Because of greedy doctors and hospitals. Have vaginas changed since the last two decades? And like Pink Floyd would say......."leave them kids along." Also, put things in perspective; it was the show, they were not buying drugs. I was not planned, but was a 'pleasant surprise' as my dad used to say. Not everyone has a blueprint for their lives. Not everything in life has to be planned. It is not irresponsible to not always have a plan for everything; it is called life - and several wise lessons are learned by accident.
Momaid, you are a cold hearted b!tch! Yo have no idea that they didn't live frugally. The article clearly states they waited a year to see the film. Maybe they collected cans and bottles in their neighborhood to come up with the money. Maybe a relative gave them the money with the specific intent that they use it to do something fun. How dare you, who live obviously in a marble tower, look down on this couple! All you know is they didn't have health care!! That is a fact for millions of Americans!! You know why? Because of greedy business owners who would rather buy themselves a new Merecedes every year than provide or pay their employees enough to buy health insurance! Even people who work for major billion dollar corporations, like Walmart, Staples, Godfathers Pizza, don't provide insurance to their employees. Instead of passing judgment on these young kids, why don't you take your vile out on corporations who don't provide insurance!
Momaid you seriously can not give your life story for every situation. Honestly no one cares about your stories and you are appearing just cold hearted, judgmental and rude. I had a normal natural delivery with my second daughter that i easily could have paid off without insurance. You do not know them, you do not know there situation, and most c-sections happen now because its more convenient and people like a plan more so than waiting for things to happen. Yes...there are those that are emergency..i am aware..i too am a mother with children. And i am insured and always have been..but by the time you pay your monthly bill and then your deductible..youve saved already enough for a normal deliver. You can argue this and throw out your statistics. Maybe this couple wanted a night out before the baby was born? Who the hell are you to say if they should do that or not?!
This baby is a miracle because she could have been killed just as easily as the ones who were killed. WTF is wrong with people???? Humanity has gone out the window in our society. How sad.
Agreed!!!
Jazmine--nope, we have just bastardized words like 'miracle' until they have very little of the original meaning.
A MIRACLE would have been if this woman had been the one to take the bullet to the brain, and an OBGYN had been in the next seat over and delivered the baby by C-section with his pocket knife after the mother's heart stopped beating.
SEE the difference?
And who appointed you as the Miracle Police? My children were born without a tragedy surrounding them and they are miracles. You sound like a harsh person, but aloha to you all the same.
MOmaid - Many things in our society are bastardized - like some people in our society. Who could they be? Hmmmm.......
If the american justice system was just this guy would be six feet under already. We have become a country of softies where @!$%#s like this guy now matter how evil have rights and people are actually worried about treating him right sorry but once you murder someone you lose all rights in my book.Then theres people who would say he has mental issues and needs help ya maybe that is the case but he should have got help before. Hes a murderer many times over so instead of giving the families justice wel drag it out in court for god knows how long the story will be in the news and papers for who knows how long reminding the families everyday.
The GOP would want this hospital to turn away this ladies husband, because he doesn't have insurance.
A republican would say to him, save up some money and then come back when you can afford to pay your emergency medical bills, and then they will treat your head wound.
This family is now going to be bankrupt because of their medical bills. In the U.S. ,no one should go bankrupt because of medical bills.
But the GOP don't mind at all, if families are destroyed from lack of insurance.
Nope, the pubs have never said any such thing. Nice try tho.
I would personally be in favor of the government having a fund to cover extraordinary health care costs.
That would be IN ADDITION to the family having been responsible enough to have had health care insurance in the first place. this family would be bankrupted by their medical bills if ANYTHING had gone wrong with the birth of the baby, yet they chose to get pregnant at a time when they supposedly could not afford to pay for health insurance.
and as has been said, my guess is that NONE of these victims will owe any bills for their medical care. Never mind victims' insurance, government assistance, and donations from the movie theater/company/even STARS of the Batman movie, I find it hard to believe that Americans will donate $700K to a woman who's job was to ride on a school bus as a 'supervisor' and was teased for being fat, (which, btw, she ABSOLUTELY was) by MIDDLE schoolers, will not also rally around and donate to the victims of these shootings.
Lots of us may actually be repubs.
Brian and MOmaid - why don't you both get off your political crap and be human beings for a minute. Put a little money where it is needed. This is BI-PARTISAN:
Contributions are coming in for the families. If anyone would like to contribute, this site has been set up to contribute. Governor Hickenlooper, of Colorado, has acknowledged this is the official site to help. Warner Bros. has given $1,000,000.
The site is: www.GivingFirst.org
Please contribute, every little donation helps it grow! It is at $2,000,000 now and much more is needed. Thanks!
After reading a number of comments on here, I have come to the sad conclusion that many of you are heartless and uncaring people of your fellow American. Some of the comments nearly blame these brand new parents for splurging a bit by going to a movie and purchasing popcorn and soda. How dare those sponge sucking parents-to-be go out and enjoy one last fling before being thrown into new parenthood when they don't even have insurance. What irresponsible parents they are going to be. I feel very sorry for those of you that feel this way. You are a sad lot that is what I know for sure.
Welcome to the world Hugh! Congratulations to the new parents! Caleb, I hope you recover and that you will watch your beautiful son grow up. Katie, stay strong!
Agreed!
Get this off the news it's not new anymore over reporting on the same issue is not news
Bootlips-
Be a good Reptilican and go back under the rock where you live. AHCA makes every American personally responsible for having some kind of health care at an affordable price. You remember that GOP mantra "personal responsibility", don't you? If we have to have automobile insurance why do some people complain so loudly when they're required to have health insurance? In the end, a healthy society benefits eery one. Better (and cheaper) to prevent illness than to wait for a medical emergency. When you have insurance you can get to a doctor's office or clinic instead of showing up at the emergency department- way more cost-effective, too. I've worked in health care since I was eighteen; now I'm sixty and have been a critical care RN for thirty years. There was a time when I first starting work after college when I had no insurance because I couldn't afford it and hoped every day that I wouldn't get sick. For a while I was an individual subscriber to BC/BS and paid though the nose for partial coverage. For years now I've been enrolled in a group insurance through my employer so I don't have to worry about big medical bills, but only because I'm in a group. Individual subscribers do not get as good coverage as group subscribers and their premiums are outrageous. ACHA sets up insurance "pools"- groups- for individuals to be a part of, therefore affordable premiums for good coverage. And if you don't join because you don't like government programs, pay the penalty but don't expect free care. Be responsible. After all, we live in the UNITED States of America, ONE nation, indivisible, not the United States of A-ME-rica. It isn't just about "ME"; it's about "US". Our precious liberties are not threatened by mandated health insurance.
I've seen it from both sides and believe me, it's the insurance companies who are stealing the trillions while denying care to those in need. And BTW, my Canadian friend tells me that their system absolutely works despite the baloney we hear about. She needed cataract surgery and got her operation two weeks after her visit to the ophthalmologist. She could have gone the next day but couldn't get everything in order on such short notice.
So, Bootlips, if you aren't already receiving Medicare, I expect that you'll tear up your red, white and blue Medicare card when you are eligible. And if you are over sixty-five, have you thrown it into the trash? My guess is that you'll hold on to it for dear life.
Actually it does not make every American responsible. It say those who cannot afford it, will be guaranteed health care. Guess who will pay for that? It is really no different than the medicaid that we as tax payers have to dole out. It is just presented differently. I can pay for my health care. But I am looking at a way that someone else can payfor it. Since the beginning when ACHA was presented, way before it was inacted, my cost has gone up $2600.00 yearly. I think that might be so the insurance company can prepare for all that will have to be covered. How is that fair? And I as well,have friends in Canada and the U.K.. They have told me many nightmares about their health system so do not assume that while your friend has had no issue, that that is the norm. We shall see. I hope I am wrong. I hope it works out wonderfully. I really do. Somehow I don't see it though.
Alaska girl--they CHOSE to go to a midnight showing, which in my area is nearly doubly expensive. They CHOSE to buy T-shirts with the movie's logo, and to buy popcorn and sodas. (and anyone who thinks THAT is not extravagant hasn't been to the movies lately!) Which, by the way, is not good nutrition for the mom to be.
So, at what point do you draw the line? If they decide to go out to a bar when the baby is a year old instead of buying baby food, is that ok?
The fact is, they CLAIM they couldn't afford health insurance, but MOST who make that claim just don't WANT to afford health insurance. They just want someone ELSE to pick up the tab.
SRScott, guess who is paying for it now!! Us, the people who pay insurance premimums!! When patients don't pay the hospital, do your really think the hospital just absorbs that cost? Hell, No! They pass that loss on to OUR insurance companies!
Answer this, would you rather pay for a emergency room visit or a trip to the doctor's office? You're gonna get the bill anyway so which would your rather pay for?
As far as Canada, wow get off the Fox News! When my mother had a Hernia, she waited 15 hours in searing pain to see a doctor here in the US. My daughter has to make her dermatology appoints 6 months in advance, even after my dentist pre-approved my dental work with my insurance they still bounced back a bill that should be covered. It is NO cake walk here in the US!!
God Bless all of you that at least believe in happy endings for Caleb, Katie and Hugo along with their Family and Friends!!! What happened in Aurora is a Tragedy. If it would have happened in any of your Hometowns you would be doing the same thing for your loved ones!!! Why don't all of us, I all ready have, I know the positive folks will or all ready have,.........BUT ALL OF YOU that are thinking and posting this negative nonsense, swallow your negativity and donate $1.00 minimum to this family???? If everyone on here now and all of the ones that will probably join and read this post would donate a minimum of $1.00, this family and New Baby, Hugo would not have to worry about finances along with worrying about everything else they have going on right at this time. Hugo is a MIRACLE, he was born in good health and his mommy is doing well. Mommy and Hugo are lucky they were not shot or killed. I am sure that Caleb was protecting his family and unfortunately he is now fighting for his life! UNLESS YOU ARE GOD or JESUS CHRIST himself quit passing judgement if Caleb is going to pull through or be a vegetable when he does come through this. I pray and hope for this family and everyone else in this tragedy in Aurora that they can heal in time and that time will heal all wounds and we as a country can move on. Thank you and Have a Great Day! Gold Bless Everyone!!!
Believe in what you wish!!!!
I sent in a donation at 3 am the morning this happened. Much more than you recommend, I might add.
Hugo is NOT a miracle. IF Hugo's dad not only survives but is able to BE a real father to his family, and not just a body on a respirator in a nursing home, THAT would be a miracle.
NO one is passing 'judgement' if Caleb is going to pull through, we are passing judgement on a plague that haunts this country--that the GREATEST predictor of poverty is having babies too young, and that you canot afford to decently feed, house, clothe, educate, and (and this is the kicker!) PROVIDE medical care for.
That means INSURANCE.)
I didn't have my FIRST baby until age 28, after over 5 years of marriage, because we couldn't AFFORD it yet.
And that included NOT only having health insurance, but also disability insurance in case one of the bread winners is incapacitated (what if the MOM was the one who was shot?), and LIFE insurance, in case one of the bread winners died.
That is the RESPONSIBLE thing to do.
The MIRACLE will be if baby Hugo does not grow up in poverty, and perpetuate it himself, due to his parent's lack of planning. And his odds are not so hot.
You, MOmaid are a pompous POS!
can someone please explain; why republicans are evil for their stance on affordable healthcare and; what is affordable healthcare ? thank you.
p.s what's with all the name calling on the comments pages?
Why must everything become political? I would be willing to bet that most of the people who feel this couple was irresponsible, are against abortion. The page states they did not plan the pregnancy. But they chose not to "get rid" of this little life. I do not agree with Obama care and I certainly would rather support this young family with donations, rather than my tax money. How can everyone just continue to be sooo hateful with their comments? You should stop judging and be supportive.
SRScott--not to rain on your parade, but I'm a pro choice, (I even know someone who HAD to have a partial birth abortion to save her life, so I don't want ANY restrictions on abortions), pro gay rights, pro women's rights, etc.
I VOTED for Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama. I will NOT be voting for Obama again, mostly because of this ill gotten HCB.
And on today's news, our government released figures that say that 37 PERCENT of all pregnancies are 'unplanned'. That is TOTALLY irresponsible. It is particularly so in the case of this couple, since she is a vet student, and not only KNOWS how 'babies are made', but also has ample proof of the problems of uncontrolled 'breedings' in the animal kingdom.
And considering that PET health insurance is one of the fastest growing aspects of the industry, it is particularly irresponsible of her not only to not have insurance, but to also get pregnant without it.
I got news for you. They might see a bill for the kid because that was planned by both parents but they won't see a bill for the rest. The state or other institution will pick that up. Guaranteed. How the hell do gang banger's get free medical care when they shoot someone or get shot themselves. The state or some other institution pick up the bill.
hmm, miracle I don't see how........ and for you libtards, spewing your anti gun BS, guns sale has increased since the shooting and not just in Colorado.........I think whole story is lopsided as well as NBC.
Here is a selfish mentality from all those that put down anyone with NO HEALTH INSURANCE!!! this poor young couple! I just can't get over the ignorance of so many people! Don't people know that this country is at 3rd world level for health care!? Wake up Americans and get over your selfish attitude and really see that this country needs regulated health care because there are to many other people getting paid (insurance and pharmacutical) while others are sick and dying! HELLO!!!!! My heart goes out to this family because they could not afford the huge insurance cost to have medical and to have this sick tragedy happen to all these people just goes to show how important life is and how quick it can change in a blink of an eye! Lets start taking care of our country instead of thinking of the almight dollar!! Where there is health there is wealth!!!!! NOTTTT where there is wealth there is HEALTH!!!
Wilson--sorry, but this poor young couple CHOSE to be careless and get pregnant, they chose to not afford health insurance, and you wonder why many of us resent that?
And it is really easy to say that we should take care of our health instead of the almighty dollar, but it is just as greedy to want someone ELSE's almighty dollar to pay for YOUR health care.
And too many of the "needy'' who cannot afford insurance cannot afford it either because they'd rather afford expensive 'toys' or because they long ago made REALLY irresponsible bad decisions regarding staying in school and not having unplanned kids.
Neither is my problem.
Im glad you know this couple Momaid, you dont know what they chose or how they even ended up pregnant. I have 2 children, and my 2nd was not planned. Protection does fail sometimes ya know. You are one heartless person who really needs to just go away and stop posting. You are just making yourself look more and more of the @!$%# you are.
You are correct Jaimie - MOmaid is a pompous narcissist. They never understand what that is and they will never get it. They really think they "have it made". Sick, sad individuals!
Really? A miracle? Really!?!
They have no insurance, but they must attend the premier showing of a movie? Give me a break, I'd like to go see the movie myself, but maintaining a household and paying bills is my priority. Now we (taxpayers) have additional charges put upon us because two more selfish beings chose to bring more children into the world without knowing how they will pay the bills and yet follow a dream.
Wow. selfish, self righteous and self centered! Must be a republican!
Wilson, NOPE--Angela is merely a person who is RESPONSIBLE. She is willing to SACRIFICE her own pleasure for the financial well being of her family.
So are a LOT of Democrats.
It is, again, JUST as greedy to want someone ELSE to give up THEIR money to pay for things YOU need as it is for them to want to KEEP what they worked hard for and sacrificed to get.
You know, I have always taken care of me and mine, MOmaid. However, sometimes life strikes hard. I have always taken care of myself and my children and never received nor did I ask for government help of any kind. However, I kind of change that attitude when it comes to innocent people shot at a movie theater by a creepy psychotic gunman!
Call me crazy, but there are exceptions to every rule. This is an exception! But, that's just me!
where there is health! there is wealth!!!
NOT!!!! where there is wealth there is health!!!
little turned around don't you think?
god bless this family and all those that were affected by this tragedy!!
I dont rember them setting up a website to pay for baby its for this mans medical bills, if you dont want to help then shut up and keep your comments to yourself the couple didnt set this up it was a friend of theres who thought there might be some folks with a heart who might help out with those bills they have enough to worry about with out heartless @!$%# like yourselfs i hope nothing ever happens to you all who keep saying this couple are not resposible because Id hate for you to have to set here and read all this crap the heartless world has to say about you...
Yes, contributions are coming in for the families. If anyone would like to contribute, this site has been set up to contribute. Governor Hickenlooper, of Colorado, has acknowledged this is the official site to help. Warner Bros. has given $1,000,000.
The site is: www.GivingFirst.org
Please contribute, every little donation helps it grow! It is at $2,000,000 now and much more is needed. Thanks!
they should sue the movie theater for hospital expenses as well as pain and suffering.
Reading the posts in here, one thing is certain, it seems so many have lost civility. Is it the internet that enables posters to kick people while they are down? And what kind of person feels better for having done that?
Why would anyone want to speak so poorly about this young couple that is clearly going through a horrific time? I would not wish thier story on my worst enemy, but yet people believe they know this couple personally. Chastising them for bringing a child into the world with no health insurance and spending a few dollars on a movie is uncalled for. For all we know they could be better parents than some person with insurance that has a nanny raise thier children.
smilingphoebs--you should, then, be blaming MSN for this story, which set this couple up for well deserved criticism on their lack of responsibility.
I too would not wish their story on my worst enemy's DOG, but to set them up as heroes, you have to be willing for people to question how much manure is in those feet of clay.
And absolutely, these kids MIGHT be better parents than some person with insurance with a nanny. (NONE of whom am I acquainted with!) But STATISTICS say that baby will grow up impoverished, and will have to work even HARDER to break out of that cycle.
WHAT kind of person does that to a child? IMOHO, one who does NOT even THINK about the long term.
Your comments are disgusting, I pray that this young couple make it through this and get to raise their beautiful baby and I pray for you beacause you are heartless.
Can anyone explain how this couple would be better taken care of under the ACA?? Who will pay for their Hospital Bills? How are their Bills less under the ACA? What healthcare costs are/will be cheaper under the ACA?