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Subscribe to RSSPolice say they have arrested teenager in connection with a shooting at a Bronx park killed a little boy. WNBC's Ida Siegal reports.
A teenager in New York has been charged with murder in the shooting death of a preschooler who was caught in the crossfire at a Bronx park Sunday night.
Rondell Pinkerton, 17, was taken into custody Tuesday and charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon in the death of 4-year-old Lloyd Morgan, who was killed when gunshots erupted in the park around 9:45 p.m., NBCNewYork.com reported.
“We are speaking to a 17-year-old young man who admits to being at the scene of the shooting,” NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly said at a press conference Tuesday. “[He] admits to shooting rounds at that location. He states it was self-defense because he was being shot at.”
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Detectives believe the shooting involved four members of one group against an unidentified individual, NBCNewYork.com reported.
Mourners attend a rally on July 23 at the Forest Houses public housing development in New York City after four-year-old Lloyd Morgan was shot and killed in a gun battle during a basketball tournament.
Another person allegedly involved in incident, Courtney Kelly, 26, was charged with criminal possession of a weapon. His role in the shooting wasn't immediately clear, police said.
Morgan was shot in the head when gunfire rang out after a barbecue and charity basketball game at a court a few yards away from the playground where he was playing.
Police say there may have been as many as three or four guns fired that night. Kelly said that investigators had not yet determined whether Pinkerton had fired the fatal shot, or if the bullet had come from someone else shooting at the time.
“You don’t even understand how this affects someone with a boy, let alone a small boy,” Lloyd's mother, Shianne Norman, told PIX11 through tears. “No one expects their child to be shot at four.”
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Authorities say two other men were also shot. A 27-year-old was shot in the stomach and a 21-year-old was shot in the arm. Both are expected to survive.
Police believe the men were shooting at each other as part of an ongoing argument. They are investigating revenge as a possible motive.
Police have taken several people who were at the scene into custody since the night of the shooting, many of whom had outstanding warrants.
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where are Jessie J. and Al S.
You're prety pathetic aren't you? That was the first thing that came to your mind about this incident?
This wouldn't happen if these teenagers wouldn't be drinking 32oz cokes.
Ban the guns, to hell with personal responsibility.
savages
Ban the guns, to hell with personal responsibility.
Huh? My sarcasm goggles must be a little dull this morning.
If you are looking to blame someone, start with Rondell then his parents. You need to look no further.
Who in the hell has their 4 year old out on the playground at 9:45 pm when it is clearly DARK outside????? Unfortunately this punk ass bitch will get off because he is just a child who knows no better:( How about we find out where he got the gun from and charge his parents for not protecting the PUBLIC from this Monster and charge the parents of the little child who was killed because they OBVIOUSLY where NOT looking out for the best interest of their child. I would NEVER have my kid playing in some park in the ghetto after dark.
Who cares where al and jesse are...
A young boy was shot in the head and was killed. What transpired in FLA has absolutely nothing to do with his death. The circumstances of the two incidences are not even remotely similar.
Sad that you would use this poor kid's death as an opportunity to fan the fire. Instead of condolences or a prayer for the child, you gladly just mock his little life. Good Job.
Who gives a $hit where al and jesse are. Unbelievable.
Whatever happened to just going out and having a fistfight over disagreements? Put down the guns and settle your crap like men do instead of shooting babies with guns.
And those who are attacking the mother? She has a right to bring her child to a playground without expecting him to be shot. Also, it's really hot most places right now, and people are doing things in the evenings/nights that they usually do in days. I have no idea why she had him there, but that isn't even the point. The point is kids brought guns to some silly argument and innocent people got hurt. That is the point! She could have been in broad daylight on that playground and he could have gotten shot these days. Focus, people! She isn't the shooter and neither is that little boy.
gray-1281909
where are Jessie J. and Al S
I think you should be askin your wife. Once you go black....
N-pleez....that's just an old wives tale Bizz.....if it's true, how come all black women don't have big tatas?
usa is great
Any responsible parent who wants to take their child out at that hour is who. Much better than leaving the child home alone. They were attending a Basketball game in memory of someone who had been shot a year prior. As to dark.. a little over 100 years ago the light bulb was invented. It allows events to occur after the sun has gone and the temperature has cooled off a bit.
It doesn't matter what time it is or if it were light or dark, it doesn't give anyone the right to shot wildly into a crowd because their pi$$ed at someone.
The shooters had to know children were at the park but apparently they didn't care or that child would still be alive today. They would've just as easily fired their guns in broad daylight. Don't blame the parents because some low life shot their child dead, place the blame where it belongs.
Here comes the "ban guns" comments. Ooooops, started above.
The FIRST question to ask: "Where did this 17-year old get a weapon ?"
Guns are already banned in New York which in fact has some of the toughest gun laws in the U.S. So how well is that gun ban working????? It seems the criminals still have no problem getting them.....
Doolittle, did I miss your prayers and condolences, or are you using this for your own alternative issues? pot/kettle thing going on here.
If he did it, 17 years old or not, fry him, with his gun.
tie these punks up and turn them over to the families of the murdered baby. They are scum, all of them. "self defense" my A** They always have an excuse and they always will.
Ram, guess there are very few men out there, they all need that extra pair between their legs.
STOP THE HATE. These Parents took their child to the park for a planned event. Even if no event was planned. Who made it a death penalty crime to go to the park? Pray for this family. Their hearts are broken and will never recover.
The scum with the guns defending their prowess on the basketball court should be placed in front of a firing squad comprised of Lloyd's family. They obviously couldn't shoot ant better than they play basketball as they are still both alive.
RIP to this little boy. Sad Sad Sad.
Another victim of a culture and mindset that is a cancer among black youth (others emulate this BS too but it seems to be worse for the black youth) and in so many ways needs to be cut out.
Like others said who cares why the kid was out firing into or near a crowd, day or night, on a city block anywhere is wrong. Remember that.
As for the Al and Jessie comment, not the best first comment but, simple, they don't make money by addressing the real issues in the black community. They get their's by keeping the race pot stirred and making sure racial tensions are hot. They are a false hope and faux leaders for the black community. Getting rid of them and/or finding another person or group to step up an finally be a real leader is what needs to happen. That and for people everywhere to say this is enough, but it will have to start with these communities first. No one else is to blame but them.
Sorry if you don't like the comments but it is the truth. The black communities attitude and mindset of black youth are the black communities own worse enemies right now and problem number one. That's why we all need to come together with this and stop letting the race games hold us back. Time to be adults. Everyone like I said needs to help and other problems can and need to be addressed on the outside but the black community needs to look within if they are to ever get out of this slituation.
It is time
A 17 yr old was able to get a gun.. in NY.. which has the toughest gun laws. That should tell you gun laws aren't going to change the criminal minded from having the ability to get a gun and use it. What will deter them are punishments for doing so, such as a minimum amount of time to be judged in a court of law, and punishments that fit the crime, ie., death penalty to be carried out not more than 4 weeks following guilty conviction.
This family, like so many others, lost a loved one and I put the blame on a judicial system that has coddled the criminals for far too long. A System that every criminal out there is no longer bothered by. If you commit a crime of manslaughter and can plea bargan your stay at the big house to only 10 to 15 years and possibly get our earlier for "good behavior" are you gonna be all that bothered? That family will have to go through the rest of their lives without that boy.. I say make the punishment fit the crime.
Also a 17 yr old does know the difference between right and wrong and just what a gun is capable of doing. If he did it charge him as an adult.
"You don't expect your child to get shot at 4 years old". Really? I don't expect my child to ever be shot!
The shooters should be hung in public. There are no words strong enough to express how disgusting this is.
Also, here are some facts about banning guns...
www.saveus.org/docs/factsheets/intlgunfacts.pdf
Where is Al and Jessie? Why isn't Osama commenting that the child looks like he could have been his own? The circumstances are similar to Fl. as both shooters claimed self defense.
What is a four year old out at 9:45? Someone said the parents were responsible parents because they didn't leave the child home alone. BS a responsible parent would have put the child to bed and stayed home to watch him.
As for the POS shooter, life w/o parole, starting with immediate insertion into the prison general population.
New York....Bronx.....Rondell......Nuff said!!!!!!
Where he got the money to buy the gun is the real question.Unless it was borrowed to do a certain job.
My heartfelt sympathies to the family of this little boy, he looks just like my grandsons at that age. I can't imagine not having experienced their growth and my part in it.
Right now though I want to see how long it takes Bloomberg to speak out on a shooting that happened in his own backyard.
Michael Bloomberg, paging Michael Bloomberg are you there? Hello!
Chicago and NY, another baby shot while playing outside when they should be sleeping. But it isnt the parents fault....
Yes, it could have happened at any time of day. However, we see more of it when kids should be in bed. As a parent, you give up hanging out sometimes because its the best thing for your kid. Proper brain development requires sufficient sleep and getting to bed at the correct times. By not doing so, you put your kid at more risk besides just getting shot in the ghetto after dark.
Does it mean we dont hold the shooter responsible? Of course not! However, as parents we all need to be smarter to keep our kids out of harms way. 8 months ago, the child who was shot outside his parents taco truck in Oakland.... this agian, was after dark and in a bad area....
It could have happened to these kids during the day, but IT DID HAPPEN WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLEEPING.
Each of these kids would still be playing today, if they were sleeping when they shoudl have been, and for that, the parents share some fault.
What, no one can find any other way to blame the parents other than why they had the child out that late? Really? Perhaps because it was a planned community event followed by a cookout. Perhaps as it was getting late the mom was preparing to take the child home. Perhaps, why the child was still outside at an event supervised by his parent, it is none of your business. The issue is that up to 4 young thugs decided to ruin what was an enjoyable event by bringing gunfire, injury and a tragic death to the event.
@bob (1.26): Probably one of the Communal Guns. Left in semi-public places where criminals can find them when needed. Nice what scum can come up with.
It Is Time,
That is the most sensible and intelligent post that I have read on this blog in a year. Only the people living in a neighborhood can stop the BS.
Actually, I think it is a good question to ask all of the hoodie politicians who got involved on the martin/zimmerman case why aren't they involved on this one? Is this 4 year-old little boy's life worth less than another to them? Come on politicians, tell us why you are not protesting or making statements here like you did others.
welcome to the hood, Negro hood. They whine about the whites, and they just keep killing each other. You have to thank those ghetto parents, good job. so proud of your ankle biters.
We need to get a lot more guns on the streets so average citizens can shoot at these gang members when they're shooting at each other.
the vast majority of citizens do not have the training or experience with fire fights and if they start pulling out firearms in situations like this will end up killing each other and likely not the threats.
They charged one 17 year old with murder, but they say they are not sure who fired the fatal shot and that there were probably four shooters. Why didn't they charge all four with murder?
Terry,
My guess, they do not have the other 3 in custody. They are accessories to the crime at the very least.
His name is Lloyd Morgan...RIP Lloyd. Sorry we as asociety failed you....
Gray, did the cops talk to the 17-year-old and let him just walk away because he was standing his ground? They have the shooter in custody and are looking for the other three. People will be held accountable. No need for civil rights activists to get involve. Is this so hard for people to understand? I see this idiotic comment all the time when there is a shooting. I would be ashame to parade my stupidity.
Frankie......Please speak for your self! Do not blame "society". Blame the jerk that was shooting a gun at a playground with children present. Blaming society is doing nothing but giving the murderer an excuse. And to Pegasus..Most people that are licensed to carry a concealed weapon take training to learn how to handle the weapon. They also take the time to go to the range and target shoot. I seriously doubt that the gun owners would be killing each other. I also doubt they would take a shot if their intended target were not in sight without innocent people in the way. Legitimate gun owners are more responsible than you give them credit for.
I am not saying that by giving the parents some blame that we give none to the shooter. The shooter has 100% of his blame. The parent also does. Though everyone should be safe to be anywhere in the USA at anytime, the truth is we are not. And we all know this. The other truth/fact.... If that baby was home sleeping, he would be playing today. Therefore, there is no doubt in my mind that the parent has some blame. I hope the own it! If it were me and my child, I dont think I could live with myself!
jfc and real bizz, I have to agree but not for the reasons you give- once you go black you don't go back-because no decent white (man) would have nothing to do with you.
Billionaire mayor Bloomberg couldn't care less. If it was up to him you all would be DEAD.
Bloomberg will just TAX the poor to death. He's considering raising the tax again on cigarettes making them over $20.00 a pack. He wants to raise train and bus fares to $9.50 one way. He said tolls will go up again to somewhere around 14.50 to cross a bridge or tunnel. Wants to raise sales tax to 18.3 %. The list goes on.
I am sure that there is a we hate the mayor site somewhere for you to rant, but what does it have to do with this.
I was thinking the same thing!
politics have to creep in everywhere it seems
I am sure that there is a we hate the mayor site somewhere for you to rant, but what does it have to do with this
The mayor of NYC has spoken out about Aurora, CO; when is he going to speak about this? It's in his own backyard.
As a fellow New Yorker who lives in TX, it seems that ever since Bloomburg took over that State has gone to the dogs. I blame the voters who keep voting for Liberal/Democrats. Just LOOK AROUND PEOPLE every Democrat State has severe problems like Chicago,California, New York, Ect...... so much crime and shootings,gangs, ect........... The voters are the stupid ones.
That poor little baby...what a coward this kid is
And do you honestly believe that Republican states like Texas, Georgia, or Florida have none of this? These are not political problems. These are societal problems that are exaggerated by a ridiculous, politically motivated lack of intelligent thought such as yours. Your stereotypical blame game not only emphasizes a complete lack of reasoning power but also the lack of insight necessary to properly address the situation.
Judging by your ill-thought comment, one may wonder if you are one of the "stupid" voters.
I notice how nbc avoids the "gang" term. The shooting participants are all gangbangers.
While this seems to turn into another political debate, I blame the punk with the gun and the lack of parental supervision...
Piegan - You may want to check to see what party Bloomberg is affliated with. Bloomberg left the democratic party in 2001. He was elected mayor as a registered Republican the first time, then as a independent the second term.
Piegan - do you know the difference between a city and a state? Bloomberg is mayor of a city, New York City. He is not governor of New York State. So how do you connect your perceived decline of New York State to Bloomberg? Also, Chicago is a city in the state of Illinois, so how can it be a Democratic state?
Piegan, for your education!
Maybe the only solution is if you commit a crime with a gun you get the book thrown at you with no plea bargaining allowed. You pay the price for the crime and the gun is just icing on the cake meaning that whatever you just plea bargained for you serve the time plus time for the gun that can't be bargained away.
Lizard...we just had a shooting in Dallas, TX last night that was in a mostly all black neighborhood and almost resulted in a riot. It was breaking news. What is with the media always showing shootings involving mostly Afro-Americans throughout the country? It has to be insulting for them. Shootings happen all over the world daily. The media gets their kicks trying to stir up hate.
You were right about common sense... and yes, everything seems to get political. You are right about people not having any common sense when it comes to voting and voting for the wrong reasons. That IS scary.
We just had a shooting in Colorado and it was a white man. What difference does it really make?
"where are Al and Jessie?" That is a damn valid question!!!!! Instead of mixing up racial tensions and inciting people to riot etc.. etc.. they damn well should be out in these communities encouraging youth to straighten up and demading that their people stop refusing to get involved, start turning these bastards in instead of being afraid etc.. ITS TIME PEOPLE TOOK BACK THE STREETS!!!! BLack leaders need to STOP worrying about their own fame and fortune, STOP worrying about promoting racism, hate and violence and START being true and decent example to the people they CLAIM to represent!!!
God bless the innocent victims of violence like this!!!
TO HELL with the scum that perpetuate this crap!!!! DEATH PENALTY all the way and legislation nation wide that punishes EVERY SINGLE member of gang for crimes that any member commits!!! THis is one of a few ways to start putting an end to this @!$%#!!!!!
In Virginia last nite on the news, a 2 year old child was found wandering the streets at 2;30 in the morning ,no one knew she was missing until her picture was posted on the morning news. Ghetto black housing projects.
Seewhat I mean188
Do you have a point to make or just looking to stir the pot? How does your comment relate to the story here? The mother was with the 4 year old who was shot.
don't worry, the only way to stop this violence is to go out and buy some assault rifles. but since i dont feel like waiting 30 days for clearance, does anyone know of a gun show coming up?
Right, cause criminals love to go to gun shows to pick up a nice piece.
Crimes involving guns from shows are about 1% of the total. Nice try though.
savages
Your sarcasm goggles must be dull too.
thepunisher-2054749
Actually I dont think bill from philly was being sarcastic. Philly is working on mirroring NYC gun controls. PA has open carry and CCW but it is illegal to CCW without a county issued permit in Philly, even if you have a permit from elsewhere in PA, and open carry will get you cited for inciting panic.
do you really think these thugs are "buying" their guns? and if they are "buying" them, do you really think they are taking the legal route?!?!? in a place like the bronx, with tons of street violence and drive-by shootings, that child should not have been out at that time of night....i don't care if they were attending a memorial for someone who got shot a year ago. think people....think!!! they child was adorable, but did anyone notice the 4 year old was also dressing like a gang member? did he really have a chance? poor little boy....rip....you are safe now.
@ melissa - Please grow up!NO I DIDN'T NOTICE that the child was dressed like a Gang Member and neither did you!! You see the photo of the little child with a baseball cap on! How is that dressing like a Gang Member?? Please get a clue!
trust_verify
I was definitely being sarcastic, not sure who savage was responding to.
"but did anyone notice the 4 year old was also dressing like a gang member?"
No only you. I guess all them sports fans should be arrested or shot too since they all dress like gangsters on game day.
Melissa you sound like a fool!
i have not seen sports fans dressed as thugs or gansters on game day. sure many wear the jersey of their favorites. a bit different than dressing a 4 y.o in street gang clothes.
the death of any innocent is horrendous. the death of this little boy is just another that will fade from the headlines in due time. sad.
this 17 y.o thug monster and his parents are responsible. not society, not his socio-economic situation, but his upbringing.
it seems impossible to get illegal guns off the streets of any city in this country. as long as the politicians quiver in their boots at the thought of the NRA withdrawing support, there will always be illegal guns.
The crime here, the problem here is not Gun Control. It's self control. What the h--- were these young men thinking. You just shoot people dead and walk away. Where does that happen outside a video game ? We the Parents and Grandparent have got to teach our children to have respect for themselves and others. People really worry more about what the scum will think of them if they are" ratted out" They can't hurt anyone else if they are locked up. They will be tried as Adults.
Melissa, you should be ashamed of yourself. Lloyd shouldn't wear a baseball cap or go to the park with his family. Really? Shame on you.
I wonder how many times shots have breen fired in this particular park, and if it is often where are the police?
This is such a sad story rip peace baby Lloyd.
here are some examples of what happens when you ban guns
www.saveus.org/docs/factsheets/intlgunfacts.pdf
Melissa N-2810881
That was my first impression as well. The child certainly didn't buy a hat 4 sizes to big with a flat bill, and some one would have had to show him how to wear it crooked. Would you expect anything less from parents who take a 4 year old out that late in a violent neighborhood?
My prayers go out to the little boys family .It's sad that race,why he was at the park ,be a concern.He was there with his mom .She had every right to be there and because she is his mom she will blame herself always .The blame is with the ones with the guns but sadly they won't get what they deserve.M y thoughts and prayers go to Lloyds family
Jimney Christmas, do I have to give up my NY Yankees cap? Will I be considered a gang member if I wear it? Even here in W. Texas? Well how about I get rid of all my black shirts as well.
how tha heck does a guy from w.texas become a yankee fan?
LOL, easy. It's a Yankees Universe.
Wow - adorable little boy in a baseball cap, tragically dead, and before you know it, people are saying he's dressed like a gang member. So what if it's too big for him - for all you know someone put an older relative's hat on his head to shoot a cute picture! Or maybe they thought he would grow into it. What is this? The new "hoodie" accusation? My white teenage nephew sometimes pulls his hood up, and I've seen plenty of suburban dads in baseball caps... Do you think if they stuck a cap on their kid's head they'd be accused of "dressing him like a gang member"?
I think Melissa came to the conclusion she did is because the little boy is also wearing a hoodie. Doesn't mean he's dressed like a gangster, but ever since the Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman thing, everyone now associates hoodies with gansters.
Melissa N-2810881: It was a community event judging by the article. It was not the child or the child's mother who was a fault.
I still can't believe that when innocent bystanders get shot, people don't always blame the person with the gun. I'm so sick of people blaming the mom. She didn't have a gun. She didn't shoot her kid. The only people in this case that should be blamed are the idiots that did the shooting. And the comment about the kid being dressed like a gang member is ridiculous. My 2 year old niece took grandpa's baseball hat, put it on her head backwards. It was the cutest thing. Does that make her a gangbanger?
Why is it when a shooting happens and Black are involved the term "thug" and "gangster" is used. But when a White person burst into a crowded movie theater he is labeled mentally ill before he has even sat down with doctor? This guy has not once been referred to as a thug and he murdered multiple people... and yet there are people on here labeling the 4 yr old victim a thug because he has baseball cap. Melissa, if a white little boy had on the same outfit, would you have made the same comment... I think not. The ignorance on these blogs are unreal!
I believe Billfromphilly was looking for a gun show to pick up a piece for himself for protection from the criminals (ya know, so he can avoid waiting 30 days for his own gun), not referencing criminals getting guns at shows. yaaayyy reading comprehension!
seansmom1183
To answer your 1st question, it's because those are the facts. If someone plans and prepares to commit mass murder he likely has a mental disorder. If someone carries a gun illegally and daily and is willing to use it at a moments notice, or he flashes it around to intimidate people, he is a thug.
Of course a four yr old isn't a thug, but when the parents dress him like a thug his chances aren't good for the long run. I realize everyone who wears a over-sized hat crooked, or wears a hoodie isn't a thug but a a very large number of thugs and gangstas dress like that, along with wearing their pants waste line a foot to low.
Johnny, I'm guessing you and others have not shopped for a tiny baseball hat recently. Really hard to find. Doesn't mean he's not a fan just means his size was not the not the target market. How many people buy toddlers clothing big so they can grow into it. Right? STOP.
I'm wondering how many Thugs and Gangstas realize this fashion of wearing droopy pants started in prison to advertise availabilty and easy access?
So Johnny boy, do you consider George Zimmerman a thug... because your description perfectly describes him. Walking around with a gun ready to use at a moments notice. Even when a 17 year boy is just walking home from the store.
I just returned from a trip to Las Vegas. IT was 4pm and 105 degrees outside. A young black man driving in a car beside me had his windows down was wearing a cap, a sweatshirt, and had the hood pulled up over his hat and head. 2 weeks prior 90+degrees out in Oregon, 3 black youth walking the streets dressed the same.
Explain that.
ban imported hoodies from china-and stop sending jobs over there too.
savages
You mean like the American Indians?
First I want to say how sad this is that a little innocent boy lost his life. But to place blame on the mother or the family because he was out late with his family is just stupid! Who is anyone to judge or to even try to say what one does with their OWN child. This was a planned event and it is summer time so it gets dark later, but that really has no bearing on this situation. Stop trying to parent other people's children or worry about their parenting styles. Get over yourself really!! And what is with the comment about Native Americans? Where does that come from? There is only one race that is the most uncivilized and judgemental and the true savages and I will leave that to all of your own imagination on which race that would be. This race has been the most destructive to all of mankind and to nature. They stole land and killed many races and continue on their path of destruction.
And I just want to say on the note of gangs.....This is a conditioning done by our own government and society. I wish these communities would stop playing into their hands and chose a different path and stop the violence because this what the Government wants.
Who is anyone to judge or to even try to say what one does with their OWN child
oh I don't know-- maybe someone whose 4 year old was sleeping at 10 at night and wasn't shot? I am willing to bet that the 17 year old who shot the 4 year old was also playing in some filthy sandpit when he was 4 at 10 at night because his 16 year old mom wanted to see a basketball game. MAYBE THIS IS THE PROBLEM?? NO? MAYBE ACCEPTING THE DUMBASS WAYS OF OTHERS ISN'T REALLY GOING TO LEAD TO PROGRESS OR A MORAL SOCIETY.. and your little rant about the most savage race just shows how ignorant and uneducated you truly are-- if you even read one history book you would see that every race is as violent and savage as the other-- even your little precious Natives who sacrificed babies and murdered and scalped each other for hundreds of years before the "real" savages got there.
How many of these guns were legal? I rest my case. Like drugs that are illegal anyone can get them. You have to set the blame on the perpetrators using them to kill and the ones selling them to criminals.
they don't understand that these people ALWAYS use guns illegally
Absolutely.
Can't stand obama, I love your name. Oh so true, I can't stand him either. MITT 2012.
You can't sit him either! You all are so ignorant.
Can't stand Magic Mitt.
Obama-Biden 2012!
Cant stand and David Crowe... Watch what you wish for. "Corporations are people, my friend. Willard "Mitt" Romney
"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."-Benito Mussolini
Clearly we need more guns! Yay 'Murica!
I blame the sugar in the soda, but not the parents.
Cameron Ford
Sarcasm noted.
Very clearly we do. NYC has some of the strictest gun control laws on the books. The ONLY ones who can get a permit to own/possess a firearm in city limits are police and those with police/political connections. Yet interestingly illegal guns are frequently found to have been sold by police officers looking to make a dollar.
Drugs and gangs are the primary problems in NYC and Chicago that are leading to most of the shootings in both cities.
Trust_verify, I am not questioning you but, this is the first I've heard that illegal guns frquently come from Police Officers. If this is true it is very upsetting. Where can I read more of this? Is it that they are low paid or that they shouldn't have been police to begin with??? Thanks for any info.
Funny,this seems to happen in specific areas around the country.Is there any specific group of people involved?Is it related to the phenomena of neighborhoods "going downhill" ? Same people?Just asking.
70% of the prison population in the US is black. It's not their fault though, it's yours, you are the racist.
I know ,right?
savages
70% of the prison population in the US is black. It's not their fault though, it's yours, you are the racist.
Amen. Many of them claim that the only reason they were arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for the murders they commit is because they are black. They claim that if they were honkies they wouldn't be there.
Al and Jessie Huh!?!..This is sad and yes these youths are misguided but some may or may not change, only time will tell. Its funny the commentary you see on these pages when a minority if involved. How about the Demonic seed in Colorado with the Good Parents and great education killing and injury over 70 people...That was just sick...Explain that!?!...Stop labeling people based on color because the picture you are trying to paint doesn't match reality...Huh!!!
padro-908810
Just what picture would that be that you feel is not based on FACTS? Or is it racist to state facts?
I don't have the FACTS on the prison population. I do have them for homicides and the population in general.
Blacks represent both the killer and the victim disproportionately to their percent of overall population. That disproportionate amount is attributed to the disproportionate amount of those deaths attributed to Gangs or Drugs or BOTH. Just like Whites tend to be killed by Whites, Blacks tend to be killed by other Blacks. Problem is that Blacks kill at a greater per capita than Whites do.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
Using your logic, statistics work both ways. Studies show that whites are mostly responsible for pedophilia. Some sick minds out there doing this sick stuff. So people please don't let your little boys are girls associate with all white males. (Another way to use statistics to bolster a racist opinion) Do I believe all behave this way, No, but statistics would have you believe that.
Four data sets (the FBI’s UCR arrests, State felony court convictions, prison admissions, and the National Crime Victimization Survey) all point to a sex offender who is older than other violent offenders, generally in his early 30′s, and more likely to be white than other violent offenders.
more American sex offenders are white only because most Americans are white. If you look at actual statistics you would see that the percentage of sex offenders for each race pretty much matches their percentage of the population
Why do the negros always blame the whites. We dont run your ghetto hood, or the streets of Chicago, /keep killing each other and point your finger,
Kuhao, because they're all like obama, they have to blame someone else so why not blame their masters.
pained1, "Funny, mass shootings and mass murders like the ones in Colorado, Arizona, Alabama, etc seem to happen in specific areas around the country. Is there any specific group of people involved? Is it related to the phenomena of neighborhoods "going downhill" ? Same people? Just asking."
Kuhao wrote
"Why do the negros always blame the whites. We dont run your ghetto hood, or the streets of Chicago, /keep killing each other and point the finger"
Im not blaming anybody but a some whites seem to blame the entire Negros race for all the troubles in world which is funny.
Great point ShakingMyHead..why do they gloss over these major incidents of Mass Murder of Innocent people by White Males. What are the statistics on that Trust_Verify?
Blacks account for 12% of pedophiles. Do not congratulate yourself for merely holding your own and not excelling in this particular field of crime.
David Crowe....very good point.Obama just seems to be encouraging already strained race relations by showing "them" that its OK to point the finger at the white man.Surprised obama hasnt blamed slavery on the economy being screwed up.
Well, Obama will be gone either in Jan 0f 13' or in 4 more years. Now is the time for all citizens to stand up and take some action. Write your state leaders, your congressmen and women, your senators, mayors, govenors etc.. stop by, e-mail them, call them...sart doing something to demand and effect some changes. We all sit home on our computers bitching about stuff like this. What is anybody doing?????????????
START DEMANDING LEGISLATION THAT PUNISHES ALL MEMBERS OF GANGS FOR ANY MEMBERS CRIMES OR ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
how many blacks are killed each year in snow sking accidents? exactly, thats not something they are comfortable doing, hanging in the streets banging is what they know. So therefore the percentages will be higher in that area
Open the schools already so the savages can be institutionalized and baby sat under lockdown for another school year.
Waste of tax payer money, of course it is but so is prison. Whats the difference.
Get them back in the concrete strongholds and crime will go down in the adjacent areas.
juvenile hall here i come...be out shortly...keep my place in the gang....where are jesse and al you ask??? no whitey involved so no reason to march....sorry...just venting
Just like Obama. What will get and keep me in the spotlight.
Just like a "TOOL" to mention Obama in a thread about the death of a child!
The only thing these kids care about is their social status amongst their peers. Looking good, sporting $3 shoes they paid $200 for, strutting, spitting, cursing. It's all affect, without any real substance. They can't think for themselves and are brainwashed by pop culture, the food industry and hip hop. All they know of is to buy buy buy. Look good, show your stuff. The message, instead of making white-owned corporations richer, is to learn a skill, work your ass off every day, and if you keep at it and don't give up, one day you will get ahead. When your idols tell you to get rich or die trying you're pretty much f*cked.
Truth.
If you would have left race out of the comment, I'd agree with you 100%.
a2ggg2
Whenever I read these types of comments I wonder where the comment originators got their misinformation from. You obviously know nothing of anthropology or sociology.... And as far as making white owned corporations richer that's why we voted for Obama, Not that I mind if they get richer as long as they pay the workers a fair wage. Its corporate greed that lets some citizens live in this povertized DMZ and that's the real tradjedy of this story
I agree with Mr. Rightnow.. I hate that an innocent kid got killed. I hate that criminals aren't punished harshly enough to deter them from committing the crimes. I hate that corporate america has control of the money to a point that few jobs if any are created and pay to the employees is not even up to cost of living. And I very much wish that blacks would realise that there are a whole lot of whites in the same financial boat they are.
This shooting still should bring home the fact that criminals will get guns, crime will continue not because of gun laws but because our values have dropped to an all time low. The value of life to these criminals means nothing, Perhaps if they face a definitive death sentence that would be carried out in a minimal amount of time the fear for their own lives would stop these kinds of thoughtless killings of innocent people.
Kind of reminds of Rawanda, Nigeria, The Congo, Somalia, Sudan, Uganda, Chicago ...
Or Bosnia or Serbia or that place where Anders Behring Breivik or John Holms was from
“No one expects their child to be shot at four.” Do they expect there 21 year old or 27 year old. I myself think it should be safe to walk down the street or enter a park.
perhaps it is time to outlaw gangs.. The law agencies know the tattoos and such that gang members use to identify each other. Why not just make a law that all the gangs are hereby illegal. Why not take them all off the streets and lock them up.. you say that is Communism? I say we would have safer streets.
The mother's statetment did alarm me. I was thinking that I don't expect my child to be shot EVER! But after reading some of these posts, it's just the nature of blacks to kill each other. Me and my family and friends didn't get that memo.
Yes, we should outlaw gangs... lets start with the banks and other corporations who are raping out pockets as we speak.
No statement from "baby-daddy"?Gee i wonder where he was?Probably in prison in the same cell as the shooters "daddy".
It takes a village to raise a child. Oops, the village screwed up again.
Maybe we should try good old fashioned parenting, and expecting real parental responsibility instead of government programs.
Americans no longer understand personal responsibility. They know only how to satisfy themselves in the moment and expect that everyone cater to them. They are lazy, entitled morons.
How sad for a little child, but when I hear these stories, I'm wondering what is a child at that age doing out at that time, he should of been tucked in bed about a hour and a half before this shooting. Just like who brings their 3 month old baby to a movie?? I just don't get it. Parents have to start being parents and stay home with their children and stop all this hatred and violence. Grow up. get a job and raise your children you choose to have together!!!
Aint that the truth ...
Troy... not all Americans are irresponsible.. not all are lazy or expect entitlements. It is unfair of you to lump all to one category. There are many Americans who work their butts off, sometimes with more than one job to cover the basic expenses. Most of the middle class have worked all their lives at the same job and have little to show for it. We raise our kids and do the best we can for them. We have done without just so our kids can grow up with at least the basics that ensures they do grow up.
How dare you say Americans are lazy. We are the backbone of America.
How could that happen? It is illegal for a 17-year-old to have a gun. Surely making it illegal has made it impossible for them to have guns. So, maybe if guns are made illegal for adults the teenagers won't have the ones they have stolen from wetbacks who've bought them from Fast and Furious. Oh, yeah - I think it is illegal to commit murder, too.
Jerryb is that you Jeb or is George using your Id to post again
Oh my gosh who cares what time the 4 year old was at the park...
You obviously don't have children.
But some will make it the mother's fault, of course. I wouldn't have most likely had my child out there, but I'm not her and I have no idea why they were there then. It's isn't our business and it doesn't make his death her fault. Why does blame get put on victims now so easily? So she took her child to the park and now that should make her the reason her child is dead? NO, some kids with guns were shooting at each other, and THAT is why the child is dead. He could have been asleep in his bed and a stray bullet hit him...it happens. Don't you think the mother has enough grief? Shall we hang her on a post for all to see how horrible she is that she brought her child to a playground?
Go put your kids in their beds and do your life how you want. I have my kids in bed by 8, but that doesn't mean this mother does...her child got shot, and any of yours could too. But I guess the proper response for the rest of us would then be to blame you for taking them shopping or letting them see a movie? Wow. How about focusing the blame on why those kids had guns and were out shooting on or near a playground? Really....
Lots of people care what time the toddler was at the park... If the parents thought of the child, he'd be safe at home in his crib.. If the shooters parents thought of their child, he'd be safe at home reading or having game night with family and friends... Yeah, I can see there was a play date set-up for the toddler at 9:30pm... I can go on and on on how to be a good parent.... so yeah, lots of people care why the kid was at the park at that time.. Those are the people who want to make the world a better place than seeing a little kid shot and killed..
And blame the mother?? I see a few mothers that bear that responsibility.... oooops.. I used that word.... responsibility.... most people don't know what that means..
So agree with you 4rudie4. His mom was most likely with him and does everyone forget they are in the middle of a heat wave? It was probably much cooler that being stuffed in an apt without and AC.
My prayers are with this innocent child and his family.
It is sad that most every day we read about another violent gun act. Tragic!
If I lived in and grew up in NYC as my Mother did I would certainly wait until the cool of the evening to take my child out. My Mom grew up in Brooklyn and was shipped to stay with relatives all summer because of the heat. Open your minds people. We don't all live in Mayberry. We do live in America where we should feel safe in our own homes and neighborhood. Do you people blaming the Parents for taking their child to the park think we should all hide and cower in our homes after sundown ? Curfew for all the right thinking folks who don't rape, rob or kill? Thats messed up.
All of you complaining about the child being in the park at night must have missed the original article where it clearly said there was a cookout and basketball game going on. I'm sure you Holy Sainted Helicopter Parents have never let your tiger children stay up past their bedtime for a special event.
Unfortunately, these kids are also being hit by stray bullets in their apartments. I feel sorry for all children today.
I seem to remember reading the article that stated there was a bbq and basketball game going on where the shots rang out. Unless the media is playing tricks on us (heaven forbid) they were leading us to believe the child was simply out playing at 9:45 at night, hence the outraged Holy Sainted Helicopter Parents.
PEOPLE! Blame the shooters.
Some of these people complaining about the time of night the child was out are most likely hippocrites who like to slam others but are unwilling to admit that their own young children have been up that late on occasion especially in the summer when it's hot.
However, this is a bad neighborhood where this kind of thing is unfortunately common. The sad part is the to be completely safe in a place like that is virtually impossible. Many have been injured or killed by stray bullets that have entered their homes or vehicles. You have to also make a choice when you live in that kind of place. Live in constant fear and hide away, or try and live a somewhat normal life.
Al and Jessie Huh!?!..This is sad and yes these youths are misguided but some may or may not change, only time will tell. Its funny the commentary you see on these pages when a minority if involved. How about the Demonic seed in Colorado with the Good Parents and great education killing and injury over 70 people...That was just sick...Explain that!?!...Stop labeling people based on color because the picture you are trying to paint doesn't match reality...Huh!!!
Black on black violence and murders happen on a daily basis. Mass shootings are horrific but not any where near as common. What about the 2 demon seeds, that happened to be black that were snipers murdering innocent people?? Criminals like that have come in all colors.
skrewdworld
Homicides are committed by Blacks and WHITES on an almost EQUAL basis. About 6000 each on an annual basis. The ONLY significant difference is Blacks suffer a disproportionate number vs population and a disproportionate are gang/drug related.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
Americans have no self-control so it is time to take the choice away regarding gun ownership. Guns should be reserved for the military. There's no need to shoot targets, animals, or people.
Troy, as an American, I respect your opinion so much that if I happen upon your family being victimized, I promise not to shoot the criminal trying to rape your daughter with my gun. I'd be careful about giving up my rights. The next right they decide we don't need might be YOURS!
Wow Lizzie - Very well said!!! I've said it before and I'll say it again; if guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have them!!!
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Lizzie
Why would they be trying to rape Troy's daughter with your gun.
Education is the key to your sentence structure.
I doubt that you would shoot anyone, you would probably just run. I think that you are more likely to have your own gun used on you, than to use it on another person.
Troy-2251798
While you're at it, lets take away your 1st, first. See how your ahole feels after it can't stink up the air.
robiscoole
Does it make you feel powerful to proof-read postings for free? I bet you're one of those that get all worked up from reading text messages.
Troy: It is not your right or anyone else's to mandate what a person has the right to own for personal enjoyment, including target shooting. I am a target shooter and I would never stand for someone like you making me take responsibility for another's actions and tell ing me "you dont need those guns give them up. as fotr the military, they are not there to protect the private citizen on the playground, the theatre, home, etc. Criminals get guns from lots of places and we as citizens have the right to protect ourselves from them, including owning guns to do it with. On a totalitarian police state decides what you can own, and we sont put up with that crap. If you think that wearing a uniform somehow makes a military or poloice officer better and more qualified to have a gun than the rest of us you are sadly mistaken.
Furthermore, consider this: where have the shootings taken place? Schools, churches, restraunts, all of them with signs up banning guns. Guess where shootings have never occurred? Gun shows! What does this tell you? It says that common sense should tell you criminals will always get weapons, they love unarmed victims, and banning guns gives them open season on the rest of us.
A law abiding citizen will not use a gun, no matter how powerfu, to harm another, but a psycho is dangerous no matter what he is holding. You cannot stop the shooting by banning guns, you can only stop evil by changing human nature, and it will never happen.
One other thing, my "need" to relax and enjoy myself shooting a target threatens no one and it is no one else's right, including yours to decide that for me. You dont need your television, you dont need greasy foods, and if you smoke or drink, you need none of that. Suppose I demand you get rid of them? They are all unhealthy. What would you say to me? I would not be "yes sir."
Troy, The elderly gentleman on the video on Fox News today has control as he is shooting the robbers of an Internet cafe.
The problem, as I see it, is that hardly anyone has any experience with gun sports and are afraid of the thing they see in the movies. The gentleman in the video is clearly experienced. A gangbanger who buys a gun and try to use it in a crime will almost always FUBAR. The Colorado shooter is said to preplan, but he did not know his weapons or how to fulfill his mission, because he was denied a chance to train at the range. His adrenalin was pumping and he probably crapped his pants.
This was a Cook out in the Bronx where street culture is dominant. Being New York, they have never seen the inside of a gun range or training facility or ever been taught gun safety. The report says several shots were fired. I would guess Alcohol was involved as well as drugs. I would ask if sobriety test were done and even gunpowder residue test on their hands. Idiots should not have guns and drunk idiots need to be arrested.
The NRA promotes gun sports and outdoor tradition. These are concepts that a Libtard would never understand because going there would be the equivalent to traveling to the moon. Since they do not understand and are unfamiliar with anything about tradition or the benefits of feeling self reliant, they can just sit in their glass houses and throw rocks.
Agree 100%!!!!
What was a 4 yr old doing out at 9:45 PM? Should have been tucked safely away in bed.
Bullets don't care where you are... and they go through walls.
9:45? You act like that is a ridiculous time to be out! If it was midnight or a school night I'm with you but it's summer.
What was a baby or a 6 year old doing at a movie theater at midnight? Who is anyone to tell anyone else when their children should be tucked safely away in bed? It is basically no-one elses business whether or not a parent takes their child somewhere after dark. We took our children to the drive-in, we never got home before midnight. On the 4th of July we took our children (even when they were babies) to the fireworks in the park, we rarely got home before 11:00 pm. We took our children to the amusement park and watched the laser show, we rarely get home before 11:00 pm.
It was a barbecue and a charity basketball game that they had attended. As far as I am concerned that is no different than when a family sticks around for fireworks on the 4th of July.
Sissy is this realy where your mind goes when a small boy is murdered in the neighborhood Park at a BBQ with his Mom? Stop blaming the innocent and blame the Shooters
Damn shame how that white boy shot up the movie theater... oh, wrong story.
Both colorado shootings = last weekend in Chicago.
It's an American problem...
One is certifiably crazy, the other is a criminal that will probably get out and kill again. Both should be exterminated.
It was self defence! They were wearing hoodies!
Serious biz, you changed your handle from Godsfavorite1. Good to see you're back... not!
@morrison...on this side of the pond, there is no "c" in defense! back to topic, my sincere condolences for the loss of a young life.
Not a daily occurrence.
Okay, well, according to some people's line of thinking, since illegal guns are the only ones being used (umm no) then make all guns legal and don't regulate who gets what and how much ammunition they can get. Oh, and drugs, too. Just let everyone buy all they can and everyone will have drugs, so no one will use illegal ones or let them get into the wrong people's hands. Oh, and since people speed and cause accidents do away with speed limits so they will all be legal. Then we can't leave out DUIs either. Since so many break that law and kill people, it makes more sense to throw up our hands and say everything is legal. Give up, everyone. Since people still break the laws and hurt others, why bother to try to regulate anything or keep drugs, guns, or booze out of the wrong hands or make rules to obtain and use them legally?
And since kids get abused despite laws against it, let's drop those, too, and the child labor laws...oh yeah, and murder can't be against the law since people break the law and kill people anyway. Aww, heck, why bother to try to have a civilized society or protect our citizens, kids, those who dare to use our roads, or anyone else. Guess those illegal guns were never, ever purchased legally, there is no way to stop or prosecute those who and I guess everything is useless anyway, so why bother?
Geez. I know this isn't a simple issue to fix, but throwing up our hands and saying they will use illegal guns anyway, so the answer is to have all the people armed so we can all shoot at each other? If a person gets shot immediately now people start asking why s/he didn't her her own gun and shoot the shooter, or why more people didn't have concealed weapons so everyone could either start shooting back and forth or be reasonable and still have to not shoot so as not to hit a victim in the crossfire. Notice how well it works when people start shooting at each other? Oh yeah, little kids and other innocent people get shot.
And each time someone or a lot of people get shot, there will be cries for more of us to get guns and be ready to defend ourselves and shoot those shooters. I see that's working out well for us all. Oh, I know, several will point out how wrong I am and how more guns will make us all safer, how I just don't understand, and so forth. I know...happens every single time anyone dares to mention that more guns don't necessarily make anyone safer.
You maybe on to something there ram. Go back far enough in history both guns and drugs were legal. I don't read much about it being a problem. But here's a hint for argument sake, apples don't taste like oranges.
"there will be cries for more of us to get guns and be ready to defend ourselves and shoot those shooters. I see that's working out well for us all"
If you don't believe that look up the statistics. If you're not into researching, which I highly assume, just watch "Police wildest videos" or somthing like that and see the people whom saved their own lives inlcuding others from armed robbers. But hey it's easier to take someone else's words than to do the research ourselves. Right?
Seriously, Troy, you cant figure out how having a gun in your hand with a high speed bullet is better than having empty hands and a thug wanting to hurt you? You really dont think guns make people safer? Wow. Well please feel free not to own any. Keep in mind also that the guys who try to preserve the law and order against criminals, cops, carry guns, every single one of them.
I believe in the "right to bear arms". However, I also believe that it is a priviledge and not an entitlement to have a gun. When any individual uses a gun in an illegal manner, they should forever be banned from gun ownership. Additionally, any illegally obtained guns, such as gang members acquisitions, should be grounds for immediate incarceration with a minimum jail time of 3 years or longer depending on the circumstances such illegally obtained gun was used.
Also, jail time should be hard time. What is "time served" if all you do in jail is eat three meals a day, get to exercise, get free health benefits, and a free education? You go to jail...you work your @$$ off from day break to sunset. Remember the old "chain gangs"? {A chain gang is a group of prisoners chained together to perform menial or physically challenging work, such as mining or timber collecting, as a form of punishment. Such punishment might include building roads, digging ditches or chipping stone...} That's where gang members should be...work for your "rehabilitation"
tis better to own a gun and never need one....
then to need a gun and not own one......
Working Mom: I aggree. Part of the problem is the whinny bawly baby justice system that lets criminals get off easy and offers them all sorts of special deals. Besides that, people like me who have owned guns our entire lives dont pose a thret to anyone and dont need to be messed with. It makes me sick when a sex offender can commit 168 crimesand still be on the loose, oh but let some nut shoot somebody and all of us get the blame.
'No one excepts their child to be shot at four'
Well no one expects a 4 year old to be outside in the line of fire at 9:45 at night.
Said it once and I will say it again, parenting at it's finest. 4 year olds around my parts (which aren't even the greatest) are in bed at 9:45, including my own.
Poor child.
Did it ever occur to you that the northeast is experiencing record high temperatures and those apartment building are not air conditioned? I'm sure they were outside trying to get a break from the oppressive heat in their apartment. But, it's easy to judge when you're not in their situation.
I'm with you Shay! @Mike - buy a fan!!! That baby would be alive today if he had been in bed like he should have been. I live in the high desert and temps at 9:45pm are commonly high during the summer, however; my kids are in bed where they belong at that time of night. Oh, and we don't run our air conditioner because the bill runs way too high if we do!
"Well no one expects a 4 year old to be outside in the line of fire at 9:45 at night."
So does that include Alaska too? as there's still daylight, or are you just barking your ethnocentric views?
@Mike, I have no air conditioning in my house, we have fans. Here in the midwest we experienced record high temperatures. Even so, my babies still are not outside after dark. It's common sense! Maybe my parenting skills are different than than or yours. It's also pretty hard to escape the heat no matter what time of night considering the dew points decide to stay right around 70.
@thepunisher,
Are they in Alaska? Pretty sure 9:45 in New York is dark. Find someone else to bully.
So Shay who the he!! are you to tell other people how they should raise their children? You are right your parenting skills are different than other peoples but it doesn't mean that they are better than other peoples.
My children at that age would go to the drive in with us, or watch the laser show at the amusement park and we rarely got home by midnight. They were also at the park watching the 4th of July fireworks and we rarely got home before 11:00 pm. They were at a barbecue and a charity basketball game. For all any of you know that was a special occasion for the child to be there.
Also Shay, do you know what it is like to live on the top floor of a six story walk up in NYC? The oppression there is nothing like the oppression that you get in the midwest in your one or two story home with dewpoints of 70. Fans do nothing except blow around the hot air that has risen to the top floor of the brick building.
I'm one of the parents who on a normal basis execute a bedtime for my children. Do you think there aren't normal exceptions like special occasions? I don't live under a rock I do however use my brain.
Also Donna, how the he!! do you know that I have never lived in one of those 6 story apartment buildings and/or experienced what it's like to have fans blow nothing but hot air around.
What your squawking back at me is the simple fact that I may be a tad more over protective of my children than the next one. I see too many of these stories out there are events that could have been prevented if one used their brain. I don't doubt there are instances in which the parent wasn't doing anything wrong and they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time but there are way too many stories of just the opposite. If this were to happen on a normal basis around that part of town you could think the lightbulb would go off.
Shayo, have you not seen the news where a child is shot while his/her house & in bed? Or in a car & how about a school or church? Get off your high @!$%#ing horse, it can happen anywhere anytime. The mother is not to blame.
Do people on this site just live to fight with people? No one is allowed to have an opinion?
Where is Jessy and Sharpton on this...
Yes! Finally! Someone with the balls to ask that question! I've been waiting until...
Oh, wait... that exactly what the first poster asked.
What an original mind you have.
Actually, he has a point. People say it over and over again, but it gets dismissed as a racist statement.
Where is their leadership in this ?
Actually, he doesn't have a point. Where is the leadership in Colorado?
Serious Bizz
Mental health of ONE individual issue in CO. What's the EXCUSE in NYC and Chicago on a weekly basis? Had the shooter been, God forbid, NON Black the "reverends" would be all over this.
The Al/Jesse commentary belongs on another thread, guys. The circumstances of this incident are completely different from those that those two involve themselves in. I am not an Al/Jesse fan and think their presence exacerbates already sensitive situations, however, that is irrelevant anyway.
A young boy was shot in the head and killed by gang fire. I hope that something like this NEVER happens to those who seem to forget there is a family--real people-- (not savages) mourning his loss.
And playground accusers/perfect parents: I'm sure the family (esp. mom) is doing enough self-blame. You don't need to do it for them.
al and jessie media whores period!
BIZZ why are trying to talk about something that has nothing to do with another black ghetto child killed in the street. blacks are dropping like flies. this is a shame-I would be ashamed to be black
I'm just glad they are rounding possible suspects. NYC is a tough place for the crime squad. I think they should be commended for their quick action and hope they find those involved. God bless the family.
No Zimmerman to blame this time
While my heart goes out to this victims family; I certainly have to ask why he was out so late when he should have been home in bed! Also, that 17 yr. old admitted to shooting in self-defense?! Why did he have a gun to begin with? "Oh, someone was shooting at me, so I pulled out my gun; 'cause you know everyone just so happens to have a gun handy, and I started shooting back!!" REALLY?!!!!!!
You said it but for some absolutely ignorant reasons our Government will do nothing to clamp down on the NRA and how easy it is in this country to obtain weapons. It's ludicrous.
The government and people like you have done all sorts of things to clamp down on the NRA and blame them for gun deaths rather than dealing with the thugs who kill people. Your precious assed government will let scum murder and rob and the bleeding hearts whine till hard criminals get time off for good behavior, plea bargains and the ability to hit the streets for many many offenses, then they wonder why criminals have no problem being criminals.
Then you keep whining, and people put up "NO GUNS ALLOWED" signs and you think that a stupid sign with a stupid rule is going to deter a criminal. Well the criminals laugh at you and they walk in and start shooting at the empty handed victims that your paranoia set up for them, and what do you do then? Bellyache that it was the fault of the guns, the NRA and anyone who wants to shoot. Boo hoo, it's all our fault, ban the guns so criminals cant get them. You idiots dont seem to realize that the following things are all banned: Murder, rape, robbery, car jacking, molestation, theft, drunk driving, child abuse, spousal abuse, cocaine, crack, dope, heroine, speed.......................ant yet all of those things are rampant in society. Think your bans do any good? No, they get innocent people killed and you remain stupid. I wish we could just take all of you loud mouth paranoid gun haters and dump you in one location of your own, gun free, and leave the rest of us alone. We would be fine and the psychos would be on your door step in a week and start shooting you to pieces, unrestrained. Then who would you blame for your problems? Grass hoppers??????
We don't need gun control,we need gang banging thug control,removing this garbage from the gene pool will go a long way to restore safety and prosperity in those communities over-run with these rats.
I like the "Where's Jesse J, and Rev. Al" comment. They only show up for justified shootings just so they can stir up race riots. You people need to take back your streets. Run the thugs out...snitch them out....quit buying their drugs....Oh yeah you cant do that because that would mean you weren't keeping it real. Obama sold out and look where he is....maybe a few million of you should do the same!
Because it's illegal to carry a gun outside of your home in NYC. And Bloomberg seems to forget that in his indignation about Aurora and gun shows/shops in other states.