RAB, we need you and your ilk to this section of the country ASAP. Go there and chant "Deny,Deny,Deny" and everything will be fine.

... the north pole had a tropical climate thirty billion years ago ...

You do realize Earth is only approximately 4 billion years old and the universe itself is less than 14 billion years old, right?

I think your polar ice cap needs to melt.

The NWS is predicting a chance of another dericho - the same kind of super-storm that wiped out power to millions on June 29th. It seems that this one will head towards NYC, though.

As of 2:45 pm EST, the Dericho Index was higher than it was on June 29th, and a number of tornadoes have already hit Ohio and Western PA.

Be careful out there, folks. The NE is in for a bumpy ride today.

Physicist, but the picture posted it looks like it's skimming me (I'm in East Brunswick). Hopefully so.

TFNJ,

Governor Cuomo called off his scheduled events in NY today, and headed back to the City to meet with his emergency team. You might be on the edge, but a dericho is both really fast, and travels in an unpredictable path.

I'm watching the live feed by TWC meteorologists here. You might want to do the same. Stay safe!

I will. Texted wife to have flashlights handy. Gonna check TWC now, online that is.

Oh oh, weather channel site is showing the entire state in the red.

TF,

New York state parks are being evacuated now - and a new watch area that extends all the way to Long Island will be issued soon.

Latest estimates put the worst weather in NYC at about 9:00 pm.

Wonder why NJ/PA parks aren't being evacuated? I see why Cuomo went back to the City now.

Ironically I know some people that are camping this week at Stokes forest up on Rt 15. I would imagine the park service would evacuate the campers. Maybe NJ and PA are taking a watch and see on the storm.

Headed home. Will check weather when I get home.

Stay safe.

Cool storm, rolled out just as fast as it rolled in. Funnels reported in more places than just Elmira, which is a CITY by the way (as much as I hate to admit it).

god was bowling a perfect game tonight ! the thunder was awesome,only a few flooded gutters instead of gutterballs

Elvira is ok in Elmira...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmVc0_IYUk

pop is short for popular. every generation complains that pop music sucks these days. teenagers and young adults account for a majority of record sales. they enjoy popular music. as soon as you are old enough to no longer identify with teenagers or young adults, you tend to stop consuming this new pop music, which is generally presented by teenagers and young adults for teenagers and young adults. its seems obvious that pop music wouldnt be made for adults and the elderly. that isnt to say that music isnt made for those over 35, some of it very good, but its not generally referred to as pop, and whats so wrong with that? the argument that music was so much better when you were growing up is lazy and cliched.

gone4now, are you disappointed that there are not enough deaths to report at this time?

Just what is it that brought you here? Surely not the bloodshed and gore.

This site is garbage.

Why are you so disappointed? Why are your lovers so disappointed as well?

Inquiring minds and all of that.

Eric in Oregon

Here comes the global warming, climate change crowd of liberals with their polite style as usual. There were storms just like this 45 years ago in Upstate New York. One blew the Front Porch right off my house. I finally figured out what motivates these people. Like thier leader Obama they fancy themselves so important in the larger scheme of things they actually think they can make a huge difference in Mother Nature's behavior. Arrogant or what??

Arrogant or what??

Actually, just scientific.

Recently a Physicist calculated that for every 100,000 acres of Over fueled forest, burning out of control for several weeks, the amount of CO2 produced, equaled the total for All cars/trucks across the USA...for ONE YEAR. Within the last two seasons the Over Fueled (Logging Banned) Western Forests have burned over 1,000,000 acres (1 Million). Throughout the past, that is Not totally uncommon. Peshtigo Wisconsin Fire alone, in the drought heat of 1871, consumed 3.8 Million acres..... and 1,500 people.

God controls the winds and the rains. Maybe he's trying to tell us to stop with all the shootings and sinning in every possible way through the weather. America needs to go back to those days you referred to and worship the God who created the planet.

So, congratulations to the lobbyists who are funded by huge companies making billions off the global warming scam! Global climate change is what it is now called. That's the ticket, change what you call it to global climate change instead of global warming so you can take the wind out of arguments from some scientists who point out that there are glaciers in certain areas of the world that are growing.

Global climate change didn't just happen when mankind arrived and started industrializing the world. Global climate change has been a constant on this earth and is likely a constant on every other planet with an atmosphere.

The first poster was over the top with his "30 billion years" but correct to point out that there are corresponding increases in temperatures on other planets in the solar system. There is also irrefutable documentation of cyclic warming and cooling throughout the life of this world contained in the geologic record.

We ARE wise to limit our impact on the world, we are smart to try to minimize CO2 emissions but our impact on the climate of this earth isn't as great as those behind the "global climate change" juggernaut would have us believe. On the other hand if a huge mountain of BS is what we need to gain support for the mission of the EPA and other like-minded agencies around the world then I guess it's better than letting the global corporate monster continue to rape the world. I just wish we could deal with the detrimental impact of pollution in an honest way instead of dramatising it through such a fantastically far fetched construct as "man-made global climate change"!

Some wish we could control the weather and it would be wonderful if we could eliminate tornadoes and hurricanes that cost so many lives and do so much damage, on the other hand, what role do tornadoes and hurricanes play in the health of our environment?

Given our history, I'd wager that if we could control the weather we'd botch it up horribly. Imagine, weather as a weapon because that is exactly what our warped minded species would use it as!

I hope everyone comes through the next round of storms safe. I may live in the Pacific Northwest where things are currently less nasty but I have a son, daughter-in-law and a beautiful little grand daughter just outside of DC who I worry about.

Stay safe!

I think sodas have conspired against NY by releasing their carbonated bubbles. Large sodas all over the area have formed alliances and threaten the very existence of the city.

@Kornfed, that's funny.

Sigh

And your credentials for this are?

Common sense and logic are my credentials, the geologic record has been thoroughly studied. Geologists understand what it contains and it is widely known that the earth has experienced ice ages as well as extreme warming on a fairly well documented cycle.

The global warming "global climate change" juggernaut is a construct meant to turn money spent on reducing industrial pollution into a for profit enterprise. It is actually detrimental in that it works against the very thing it pretends to support. The juggernaut places a layer of politics and profit atop the real issue, which is pollution. Many who scream about reducing government, reducing red tape (really well founded regulation) are supportive of the global climate change movement because they understand that it is another issue that can be milked for profit while at the same time diverting money that might have gone to those who would work to reduce pollution (increase or at least maintain regulation of pollution). Addtionally their participation in the global climate change juggernaut make them seem as if they care as much about the environment as they do about money. IMHO!

I know opinions don't matter any more than facts, logic or common sense now days but that's my view whether you agree is another matter. I'll leave it to you to explain why my logic or opinions are unfounded.

You may want to check out iceagenow.com, there is information there that runs counter to the popular vernacular but it is based on information gleaned from study of the geologic record. There are some scientists/climatologists/geologists, at least that agree with the information put forth in the book by the author of "Not by fire but by Ice", Robert W. Felix, who runs this website.

I know some of my previous post contradicts my first post where the global climate change juggernaut is concerned, but I also understand that as much as industrialists/global capitalists take advantage of the construct for profit there is also a positive side to the movement in that it does encourage reduction of CO2. Perhaps this is just the predatory nature of Capitalism at work but in any case reducing CO2 can't hurt and I don't disagree with anyone who is trying to help reduce humankind's impact on the earth. Again, I just wish we could have honest discussions regarding pollution and polluters outside the construct of "man made global climate change".

I know I am pessimistic, but it sure seems to me that every issue that becomes politicised these days is due to some group that wants to wring profit out of it. When an item becomes politicised, it is vulnerable to those with the money to influence regulation or funding.

Physicist retired, show him your escalator graph! Thats a good one! Unfortunately he will dismiss your site due to unqualified authors. Go look for some peer review works with differing opinions...they are hard to find due to "consensus" thinking that science normally scoffs at. BTW, libs dismiss logic even faster than differing opinions.

sighber,

i have to wonder how much you actually read about the climate and how much you get from biased sources. while it is true that we are right now still coming out of an ice age that began to abate some 8,000 years ago, it is also true that since the industrial revolution, that change has taken place much faster than it ever did before. i think that if you actually read what the climatologists say-i do. i read about this all the time-you would see that the vast majority of them believe that we are definitely having a detrimental effect on this planet. it's not that we caused the climate change, but we are exacerbating the problem and that if we are not careful we will not be able to adjust quickly enough to prevent great loss of life.

i know of few scientists that are also ceos of giant corporations just waiting to make a profit off of the climate change mantra. and if new companies pop up and make money off of green technology, so what? the oil companies, coal producers, manufacturer's all of whom poison our air and poison our water, make billions of dollars a year at the expense of our health and the health of the planet. they would think nothing of exploiting federal lands and pushing animals into extinction just to make a profit. so, if the move towards a cleaner planet and manufacturing that works in harmony with the planet makes money, that's a bad thing?

and to the poster who said God is doing this: stop using God as a tool to push a closed-minded, hate-filled agenda. God is not doing anything. WE are. WE are responsible for OUR actions. stop putting everything on God. if we would all put down our weapons, unclench our fists and start living our lives by the great commandment the Golden Rule, we wouldn't be having all these problems. you don't even have to believe in God to understand the positive ramifications of altruism. would it have stopped the storms? probably not. that's nature. but, if we had been living in harmony with our planet and not trying to break it, who knows if the climate would be changing as fast as it has been. unfortunately, there is no going back to see what might have happened. coulda, shoulda, woulda doesn't work. all we can do is move forward. there are SO many ways for us to live without destroying our planet, without using up all the water, without spewing poison into the air or creating dead zones in our gulfs and patches of garbage in the oceans. if you actually read the science periodicals out there,you would see all of the innovations that are possible. is there something BAD about wanting to live in a cleaner world? i guess i just don't get it. maybe something is wrong with me. I know! i read too much. i have my own mind and i don't give into political and religious rhetoric. i'm not a sheep.

Alessa,

You seem to take exception to my position but your post reveals that you and I share much the same view. I support efforts to curb pollution, I DON'T support politicization of the issue since this places a layer of politics atop it. Statistics that support man made global warming ignore the fact that corresponding temperature increases have been recorded on other planets in the solar system. How can you or anyone ignore such evidence that WE are not in control of the situation. Doing everything recommended will have a very minimal impact on our changing climate. Again, I agree, do what we can but also recognize the cyclic nature of our climate and prepare accordingly. The warming we are currently experiencing MAY be a prelude to the next round of global cooling. Those who recommend drastic measures, such as infusing particulate matter high in the atmosphere to reflect more sunlight COULD easily make a coming cool down worse than it otherwise would be.

I'll make you a deal. The midwest doesn't ask for tornado relief if Washington doesn't ask Obama to bail out Boeing.

Actually, Libby, it was intended as satire, not sarcasm. But I am a glad you recognized its intended absurdity. Other readers didn't and responded with grave concern. What a hoot!

Why would we bail Washington out, aren't they Canadians?

libby,

don't you know, God is doing this. He's trying to tell everyone in the country what a bunch of sinners they are and how they better tow the line or things will get worse. meanwhile, out here on the west coast, we have having a slightly cooler summer, with nice breezes and no tornadoes, wind storms, killer droughts, no flooding and we aren't all armed with an uzi. i wonder what God is trying to tell us. being rhetorical, actually. would love to come to Washington...stay away from mt. rainier...just kidding.

No need to run. I am a compassionate conservative and I intend no harm to mindless liberals. Remember how well that worked out the last time we tried it?

god bowled a perfect game today with all that thunder ,i sure wish he drop a few bowlingball sized hailstones on those eastern libturds heads and knock some sense into them,or just knock them off !!!

You just HAVE to turn everything political? It was a storm. Nothing more, nothing less.

oh in california we have acity called fairfield

God save us all from the likes of people like you! God doesn't give a rat's behind what nature is doing and He isn't Doing anything! the universal energy, that we call God is so far beyond our understanding that we can't begin to grasp His existence. the universe works in harmony. everything works in synchronicity with everything else. everything works towards the positive. even the black holes at the center of the galaxy works in harmony with the stars around it and was and is critical to the creation and continued existence of the galaxy and ergo us. when you act against the universe with greed, arrogance, hate and violence, you destroy the harmony and there will be a backlash. we humans are the only element on this planet that does not work in harmony with everything else. from the tiniest plankton to the biggest volcano, our earth works together for the betterment of the whole. we are the thorn that causes the planet pain. you have to wonder why we are here when since we first started walking upright, we have done nothing be destroy our natural world. maybe this is an experiment by the universal consciousness to see if we can rise about our basest instincts and conquer our dark side to become part of the harmony. i know there are plenty of people who are trying. Jesus tried and he got crucified. ghandi tried and he got assassinated. there are conservationists who are vilified by the right as being radicals. again, i just don't get why wanting a peaceful world where no one feels the overwhelming obsession to pack a gun, where we don't look at pollution as a good thing, where our children are NOT being poisoned by the air they breathe-why are these BAD things to want? i don't care how you live. i don't care if and where you go to church, who you love, how you vote. whatever. i just want everyone to be allowed to live their lives in peace without some religious radical demanding that we all live by their tight, anal ideals that really have nothing to do with God. if you don't believe in abortions, then keep your johnson zipped up and stop having sex with women other than your wife. and if you're a woman, stop having unprotected sex and if you get pregnant, have your baby! just stop trying to force others to follow your narrowminded hatefullness. if you don't believe in homosexuality, fine! don't be a homosexual. but, stop trying to inflict your ideals on people who are and stop trying to take away their rights! we live the in united states of america and the law of the land is the constitution, not your church. ALL people are created equal and we ALL should be protected under the law. just stop. JUST STOP. and leave the rest of us alone. that's all i ask. just leave us alone. (fyi-i'm not gay, and i've never had an abortion.)

lol

You should really know your words before correcting their 'error'.

It's "albeit" not "all be it". Probably shouldn't be using words you don't understand...

I think the big deal is that we never get weather like this. It's no different when during the winter, the southern states freak out when they get one inch of snow.

The Republicans blocked him

And if they vote, their vote holds just as much weight as yours.

Uh, wrong venue.