Yep! Just don't like racist.

This has nothing to do with God, it is certainly about the people! You know the racist ones. That's why blacks need to think before they get involved in things and spend their money in places that discriminate; not to mention pay their tithes to these types of churches.

Racism and religion... Welcome to the inclusive south!

It's not just the south. Religions are like farts, yours is ok, but everyone else's stinks. However, I've had personal experience with Southern Baptists in 1971 in the Ft Walton, Fl. area, and I'm not impressed.

Church officials "will decide on how to move forward should a similar situation occur again?" They've already decided -- they moved backwards. It sounds like they're really saying that they likely will say no again the next time a black couple want to get married. What would Jesus do? He's slap the sh*t out of these church officials. And then send them "south."

Wait what? did some open a time warp to the 1960s?

When will the self glorified hate end?

The RIGHT thing to do was perform the marrage and let them vote out the preacher.

captn curtass, I have to disagree. Sure, there are racist people all over the US. But you'll find the vast majority of them in the south. I've lived in many cities in the north and south and I don't care what you think, blacks who've experienced both will tell you that the south is much more racists than most of the northern states.

Wait what? did some open a time warp to the 1960s?

No, some just have no interest in living in the present.

Conservative values... where would we be without them?!

I will guarantee that the church members became emboldened by the bigots being able to pass laws and amendments to ban gay marriage and decided they can ban black from their church. It's a start and if they get enough people backing them they might even get other churches to ban marrying black people.

Gotta love the south, they are like a tumor slowly killing a healthy United States.

This sounds like the Robert Byrd wing of the Democrat party at work!

Arthur, get your history straight most of the bigots in the democrat party all switched to the republican party.

I don't think they should get married, not because they are black, but because of their ages. Seriously, did anyone see their picture??? The bride looks maybe low 20s, but the groom looks like he could be her grandpa!! Ewww!

• 1980: Miami Riots (Miami, Florida)
• 1980: Chattanooga Riot (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
• 1984: Lawrence, Massachusetts Race Riot: A small scale riot centered at the intersection of Haverhill and railroad streets between working class whites and Hispanics; several buildings were destroyed by Molotov cocktails; August 8, 1984.^[50]
• 1991: Crown Heights riot (Crown Heights neighborhood, Brooklyn, New York)
• 1992: Los Angeles Riots (Los Angeles, California): In a reaction to the acquittal of all LA police officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney King and the murder of Latasha Harlins; riots broke out mainly involving black youths in the black neighborhoods and shop owners in Korean neighborhoods, but overall riotiing was mainly to get out the frustrations of the racial groups over the racial tensions that were building in the South Central Los Angeles area for sometime^{[citation needed]}.
• 1996: St. Petersburg Riots (St. Petersburg, Florida): After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding, his car lurched forward causing Knight to fire his weapon, fatally wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2 days.
• 2001: Cincinnati riots (Cincinnati, Ohio): In a reaction to the acquittal of Steven Roach after the fatal shooting of an unarmed young black male, Timothy Thomas, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days.
• 2003: Benton Harbor riots (Benton Harbor, Michigan)
• 2005: 2005 Toledo Riot (Toledo, Ohio): A race riot that broke out after the Neo-Nazi protest marched through a black neighborhood.
• 2006: Fontana High School riot (Fontana, California): Riot involving about 500 Latino and black students^[51]
• 2006: Prison Race Riots (California): A war between Latino and black prison gangs set off a series of riots across California^[52][53]
• 2008: Locke High School riot^[54] (Los Angeles, California)
• 2009: 2009 Oakland Riots (Oakland, California): Peaceful protests turned into rioting after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, by a BART transit policeman.

The list of race based riots above indicates that you may have misoverestimated the harmony of race relations outside the deep South. And let's include Anaheim as of this month.

This story illustrates the fact that religion is most often used to legitimate personal bias and prejudice. Absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. Jesus would be so proud of that church and its pastor! I'm sure he would throw them out like he did with the merchants in the temple in Jerusalem.

After reading this story I had to check the date again. It sure sounded alot like 1830 to me!

The churches were one of the main groups in the 1800's that were against abolition. Go figure. Many don't practice what they preach. All people are created in God's image is the lesson, but in reality it is not so. So darn sad.

Uhhh, Sandy, Missouri get your facts straight. After the Dixiecrat's lost power only one senator switched party, Strom Thurmond. The rest of the Dixiecrat's just went back to the democratic party and stayed there for life. Robert Byrd, the one that died a couple of years ago from WV and Pres. Obama spoke at his funeral, was a exalted cyclops(top officer) for the KKK at one time. Stop drinking the kool-aid.

Capn curtass, you nailed it! I've been saying that until we quit the 'my god is better than your god' crap the hate and killing won't end. Everyone's religion is based on the one true messiah. But farts is good. More concise and accurate than my version. Kudos.

Mississippi and the deep south is and will always be burning!!

I think I'm going to vomit! I am intensely disgusted with these pious, "so-called" Christians. They are so filled with their own bigotry that they have completely squeezed God out of their church. They are a true black eye for humanity at large and complete butt-holes (there is another, much more appropriate and succinct term that I would prefer to use) for Christianity.

I orginally came from the Appalachian coal mining country of West Virginia where bigots like that seemd to flourish. I'm betting that some of the people in that church probably still have a tooth or two left and their marriage to their double first cousin was sanctified and made holy by the entire church body. This is pathetic!!

BrainCandy, my comment wasn't just about racism. It was about inclusion/exclusion I grew up in N.J. and as you can see, I'm white. While there may be more racism and exclusion (black or white) in the South, it is by no means limited to just there. My point was that there are too many variations of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, worldwide, that preach intolerance of anyone (regardless of color) that doesn't think the way they think. They tell you what they think and try to convert you, but when you don't agree with them, they berate and chastise you as the Southern Baptists did to me and my friends back in '71 in Ft. Walton Beach/Destin area. (they were a white and so were the four of us) I consider myself a Christian because I believe in the teachings of Christ, and only Christ, as a way of life, not a religion, and the Ten Commandments, which i prefer to call ten pretty good rules to try and live your life by to the best of your ability. It really doesn't need to go any further than that. Some people need the gathering together and singing songs and listening to sermons, and some don't. My personal experience over 61 years is that those who don't need the church tend to be less judgemental, as a whole, than those who do. Be well.

If I was that preacher, I would be looking for a new church to lead.

I don't blame him for deciding to move the location of the wedding. I'm sure he didn't want the couple to have to deal with the bigots deciding to hold there own version of a "white wedding" ceremony, complete with a special necktie for the groom.

Is it any wonder that the TeaThuglicans rule so completely in the South and the first priority of the GOP was to make sure "that man" would only serve one term in office.

Race hatred is alive and well throughout the South, 150 years after the rebels lost the war to preserve slavery.

Man made religion is it's own worst enemy. It's like a sore that starts to fester in the center, and rots from the inside out. The only reason all man made religions fail, is because man and his ego control it. Where there is ego, spirit is subdued.

Indepundit...seriously? I doubt it's any of your business what ages they are...as long as she's old enough.

Chuck from Colorado Springs - Most Christians I know are sickened by this behavior and I guarantee this is not the majority view. The left wing media jumps on any negative story regarding Christians and makes it seem as though it was the norm. These same so-called journalists never report any good stories regarding Christians. The church I go to has 5 mixed race couples, all of whom were married in our church.

franksam941433,

Thanks for reminding everyone that riots hardly ever happen in the deep south anymore because white supremacist police and politicians threaten lives of minorities on a daily basis and keep them in fear all their lives. Just look at racial profiling stops and voter suppression being made legal. Thank you very much for reminding us. We'll try to forget that per capita, the deep south has the highest homicide rates.

Several years ago my husband was the leader of our Mormon congregation. He performed a wedding ceremony for a family friend at a local wedding chapel, and was the first "Mormon preacher" to do so at that chapel. Two weeks later he got a call from the wedding chapel owner asking him if he would perform another ceremony for her. She had a mixed race couple wanting to get married, but she couldn't find any local preacher or even justice of the peace willing to perform the ceremony. Dozens of local preachers refused except one who said he would, but only if the couple completed 6 weeks of premarital counseling. They had been living together for 6 years and already had 2 children. (at that point what is the point of such extensive premarital counseling which would have required postponing the wedding) Not even the preacher at their own mostly white church where they had attended and paid tithes for several years would marry them.

My husband agreed to meet with the couple, and two weeks later he married them while private security paroled the streets around the chapel because the owner of the chapel had received multiple threats of violence if she went through with the wedding.Seriously, how would all those "Christian" pastors tell this couples two children why their mommy and daddy shouldn't get married? Yeah for the "Mormon preacher"!

And where are all the people, who states that racism is dead and that blacks just needs to get over themselves?! Ha, they decided not to rear their heads amongst proof!!!!

We will alway's have racism in some way or another, but what gets me iswhy it is alway's white people picking on the black ones. Imagine if white people had a television chanel called "white entertainment television" like they have B.E.T. Or if we had a white Cacasion American college program, just as the United Negro college fund. Or how about we get a white man with a chip on his shoulder to go around the world and protect white people that have been done wrong...such as Jesse Jackson does.....just saying.

Whats the big deal. Why would this old man and much younger girl want to goto a all white church and get married . I wonder. Its their right not to marry them. Just like it would be alright for a black church not to marry a white couple. People need to get a life and get over the stuff like this.

Where is the media when Black men are killing 30 to 40 black people in chicago every week. Where is Jessie jackson. They do not give a crap about black people. unless race is the issue. They will let black on black crime destroy the black race in america.

This is for Right of right: What part of the South are you from? I am 72 years old and think maybe you have been drinking spiked tea. As a white Southerner I saw the South rip itself apart over the end of Jim Crow. Those Dixiecrats became Republicans contrary to your misinformation. This is a balh, blah talking point I often hear from Republicans about the South.

The South for whatever reason is in the clutches of white right wing bible thumpers that vote Republican. Explain that?

jaygard stated: "Its their right not to marry them. Just like it would be alright for a black church not to marry a white couple. People need to get a life and get over the stuff like this."

It's a prime example of man made religion. Pick and choose who they want to include in their "church", no matter what the Christ taught his followers. And they claim to follow his teachings? Their a joke.

Some 40 years ago, I started using a very pejorative term to apply to all these "christians" (lower case intentional): churchian. I use it to refer to all these so-called christian assemblies that are so enamored of their own doctrine that they forget what Christ said to the Pharisses when they tried to catch him in a theological contradiction, when they asked him what was the greatest of the (613) Torahnic Commandments. His answer, paraphrasing now: "Love God." Then he said "There is a second like unto it: Love your neighbor as yourself." My words now. Everything else is commentary. They forget this, and that all so-called Christian doctrine is supposed to be based on those two commandments. Churchians. Need I say more?

Fred, they also forget this. A church is not built of brick or stone, but is built within each of us. Funny how they forget those things.

@jaygard -- "Where is the media when Black men are killing 30 to 40 black people in chicago every week. Where is Jessie jackson. They do not give a crap about black people. unless race is the issue. They will let black on black crime destroy the black race in america."

Most likely covering the MASS murder shootings in Aurora; the MASS murder shootings at Colombine; the MASS murder shootings in Afghanistan by the nutball from Seattle. They also were probably covering all those bodies pulled from John Wayne Gacy's house, Ted Bundy, Charlie Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer's victims. Oh, I almost forgot, they were checking out Jerry Sandusky and the Catholic pedophile priests and financial ripoff artists Bernie Madoff and Stanford. Get a grip -- PHUCKED UP PEOPLE COME IN ALL COLORS.

Only in America, you're right. All religions, past, present and future were, are and will be created by man. I've often thought, and am now almost convinced, that religion, and/or politics, will ultimately be the demise of the Human race, unless a big space rock gets us first.

Weatherford said he was taken by surprise by what he called a small minority against the black marriage at the church.

Makes you think about what such a small minority could do? I know of another small minority in the public now that is also getting some news and "they" like to shop at JCPenney and not eat at Chik-fil-A.

This is a good example in that, the problem with this story is that many of the christians in the church failed to stand up to the small minority within the church( even though they know that they were wrong). And now we all know what happened there, right?

Goes to show you, christians shouldn't let the minority population walk all over them, anymore.

There are only five hundred or so comments? There should be 200 million....If all of you republicans say you are not racist where is your outrage? Oh that's right you are defending this too...Saying it is not racist but it is their right...it is their right...They have a right to be bigots....And that right should go away...Or I should have the right to punch any member of this church upside their stupid Fox News brainwashed head....That being said I am true follower of Jesus's teachings and believe in turning the other cheek.............The GOP disgusts me....

....And that right should go away...Or I should have the right to punch any member of this church upside their stupid Fox News brainwashed head....That being said I am true follower of Jesus's teachings and believe in turning the other cheek..

SW Philly: Really? Christ would have you punch any member of this church upside their stupid Brainwashed head? Nobody said these church members have the right to be bigots. God would approve of this couple's marriage. (What you mean to say is that you hate racism. *USE YOUR WORDS*)

Oh and don't mix politics in with your speech. There are christians on both sides and I'm pretty sure they would all disagree with the small minority of that church as well.

Are they really christians in that white church??

To sw philly I totally agree with you! When I came across this story, I was SURE that there were at least 2500 comments. I think that ppl, for some strange reason, are beginning to be desensitized to racism. But it is alive and festering all over the world. I believe it will never end. Unless we are attack by aliens & we absolutely need to stand together to survive. It's sad, but true.

I blame Abraham Lincoln for not letting the South secede from the union.

The pastor should have married them in the church anyway, and dared the 'congregation' to remove him, asking them "What would Jesus have approved of?"

Marriage license was first introduced by conservative to prevent inter-racial and inter-faith marriage.

Lucky for all of us, that has been changed for the better and will continue to change. There is nothing shocking or surprising here.

dirp:

If I was that preacher, I would be looking for a new church to lead.

Agreed. Staying sends the message of acceptance.

Gen065 said:

Everyone's religion is based on the one true messiah.

There is no one true way, and the way you find is only good for you, and may not be for anyone else, because what you perceive as the truth will never be the same as another person's truth.

That's from my belief system.

Captn Curtass stated: "I've often thought, and am now almost convinced, that religion, and/or politics, will ultimately be the demise of the Human race, unless a big space rock gets us first."

Or if they open their eyes and heart first.

If these people in this church are Christians, I think Christianity has not changed much since antiquity. Some 'conservatives' keep their old 'values', including the same old pigotry toward minorities like in this case.

Gen065 stated: "Everyone's religion is based on the one true messiah."

It's based on it in name only, other than that, not much.

My goodness.....am I missing something here?!?!?! I really just don't understand this one at all---honestly, I can't for the life of me figure this one out, which is odd as most racists are not very bright and therefore their actions are simple-minded and easy to decipher. It is especially odd considering they don't have a problem allowing them to ATTEND the church....didn't they consider that at some point, since they were attending as a couple, they might wish to marry? And most folk naturally marry at the church they have joined. Bizarre as all heck! I can't think of one problem marrying them could cause! I have attended black weddings held at large white churches and they weren't even members!!! LOL! Good money to be made renting the church out. Oh well! I have been stomped and defeated by the racists on a Friday night.

We were shocked at our situation as well. How could a pastor look a congregation member of several years in the eye and refuse to marry them? I mean if they really had such a problem with the relationship, they should have asked them to not attend or pay offerings at their church. And forget making money renting out the church or charging a fee for the preacher. My husband the "Mormon preacher" married that inter-racial couple for free. (we did eat cake at the reception though) :-)

To Whispersailor, I am not from the south but in fact from Michigan. I am also not white but black. I do not just sit by and absorb the talking points of the so-called black leaders or the democratic party but seek to find the true information on my own. By the way...when 90% of the black population turned democrate MLK Sr and Jr stayed and died Republican.

Dixiecrat - Senators
(D)VA Harry F. Byrd, 1933-1965
(D)VA A. Willis Robertson, 1946-1966
(D)WV Robert C. Byrd, 1959-2010
(D)MS John C. Stennis, 1947-1989
(D)MS James O. Eastland, 1941-1941,1943-1978
(D)LA Allen J. Ellender, 1937-1972
(D)LA Russell B. Long, 1948-1987
(D)NC Sam Ervin, 1954-1974
(D)NC Everett Jordan, 1958-1973
(R)NC Jesse Helms, 1973-2003
(D)OK Thomas Pryor Gore, 1906-1921,1931-1937
(D)AL J. Lister Hill, 1938-1969
(D)AL John J. Sparkman, 1946-1979
(D)FL Spessard Holland, 1946-1971
(D)FL George Smathers, 1951-1969
(D)SC Olin D. Johnston, 1945-1965
(D,R)SC Strom Thurmond, 1954-1956,1956-2003
(D)AR John McClellan, 1943-1977
(D)GA Richard B. Russell, Jr., 1933-1971
(D)GA Herman E. Talmadge, 1957-1981
(D)TN Herbert S. Walters, 1963-1964

Dixiecrat - State governors
Benjamin Travis Laney, Arkansas Governor
Fielding Wright, Mississippi Governor
Frank M. Dixon, Former Alabama Governor
William H. Murray, Former Oklahoma Governor
Mills E. Godwin Jr. governor of Virginia

of the 26 known Dixiecrats (5 governors and 21 senators) only three ever became republicans: Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and Mills E. Godwind, Jr.

Now look them up, one by one, and see where their loyalties remained.

We'll try to forget that per capita, the deep south has the highest homicide rates.

Let's not make this one a racial issue before looking at who is killing who.

No, that's RACISTs for you.

I am from Bronx, New York, and moved to Virginia, and Baptists, from what I have seen, are crazy! Unless you are white and racist they want nothing to do with you! And they are extremists. But like I said, this has been my experience.

Tina, that's the same experience I had back in '71 in Fl. If you even try to just question what they tell you, they will chastise you and cast you out.

Went to a Southern Baptist school in Georgia (one of the reasons I'm an atheist now). White only, no exceptions. The schools were created so they could enforce segregation as they were private and didn't receive public funds. Those schools are mostly out of business now.

I went to the First Baptist Church in West L.A. never heard of this stuff. All were welcome and all could be married. Quit generalizing people. Big difference between Southern Baptist.

I had a very similar experience with the Southern Baptists, Falconer. They're the American Taliban.

I find myself dissapointed with the pastor of this church. He claimed it was a small minority of his congregation who were against the marriage happening in their church. If it was a "small minority" why didn't' he stand up and tell them they were wrong and the wedding was going to happen. Isn't his profession to lead and teach the Christian way? If this small minority balked, they could leave and find their own bigoted church to attend or learn a lesson of what it is to really be a Christian. Instead he impowered them, wait till next time they don't like something....tail wagging the dog.

It's so sad that in this day and age, to see Christians acting like anything but. Jesus embraced all and would be ashamed.

Believe it not gang, things in the south are a lot better now than they were in the 50-60's when my family moved south from Yankee land. I remember seeing the black-white only signs, a black man could not look sideways at a white woman. BAD. Now, here in No. Al. my little subdivision has several black families, and all is friendly, white and black kids playing together. Nice. And it only took fifty years!! (being sarcastic)

Still there has to be some of the old guard left who will never approve or even be friendly with a non-white. I believe that is why there is all these lies spread about President Obama, they come from bigots, north AND south. The south doesn't have the corner on bigotry. Also I think it is true that a lot of the bigotry and hatred lives in the churches and unchristian as that is. Just walk into one on Sunday morning and look around at the faces. That will tell you a lot about the attitude of the congregation.

"I went to the First Baptist Church in West L.A. never heard of this stuff. All were welcome and all could be married. Quit generalizing people. Big difference between Southern Baptist."

wlee-950886- There's Baptist and then there is Southern Baptist. Your church, especially one in LA, is considered liberal by the more conservative ones in the south and midwest. Many churches and denominations have become more liberal to fit in with the changing society. They eliminated official racist and sexist policies and many are no longer officially homophobic. These are the churches that get members nowadays. The Southern Baptists Convention may no longer have official rules against race mixing or mixed race marriages, but their white majority churches and their most devout members do. Frankly, if there was someone running for president that openly wished to bring back the Jim Crow laws, the Convention themselves would be some of the few that would vote for him.

Augure and all, after reading a lot of these posts, I'm reminded of one of my favorite songs of all time. "The Mississippi Squirrel Revival" by Ray Stevens. Look it up and listen to it. I think it fits this discussion and I'm pretty sure most of you that don't already know it will get a kick out of it. Have a good weekend.

Marriage license was first introduced by conservatives to prevent inter-racial and inter-faith marriage.

Lucky for all of us, that has been changed for the better and will continue to change. There is nothing shocking or surprising here.

So what exactly are you? a careful racist or something? They would have had a valid reason if the couple was interracial? You are a piece of work Nicole Woodman. Secret undercover racist!

Excuse me? If they were an interracial church "...they would have a reason to have turned them down." HuH? How would them being an interracial couple justify them being forbidden to marry? This is not 1962 it's 2012.

Why would you say something crazy like that? I sincerely hope you misspoke or that I am reading your post wrong, otherwise you are no better than those faux Christians at the church who didn't the black couple to get married in their building.

Read her other comments... just a bigot, no more, no less. You didn't take her comments out of context. She worded them exactly how she wanted to.

What's worse, she apparently doesn't even realize how racists she is.

Not saying that would be right, but at least they would have a reason to have turned them down.

Just like most in the republican party, it's not technically racist I guess unless you just come right out and call someone a ni$$er. Next she'll be trying to walk back her comment with something about how she can't be a racist because she had a black friend once.

Amen sister. stick to your own

Shame on this church, shame on Chik Flunk-out - you are NOT what you say you are, all the Great Spirits are crazy stomping in protest and hopefully spiritually boycotting this church and the fast food hypocrites of ChikeeChikeeboomboom. Stop trying to legislate love, color, and your creepy past experiences. You take money in the name of your adopted Great Spirit, and yet you spew hate as quickly as you spend it. Turn the other Chik you philastinks!

And who is spewing hate? I believe it is you. What that church do is horrible. There is no excuse for that.

Brain Candy nice generalization, you don't sound like a bigot do you. Cindy, because the owner disagrees with your views on gay marriage you call him names. Maybe you need to turn the other cheek

Nicole and james.....WTF??

Cindy Overton: What you see and what I see are totally different things. This is what happens when a small minority of the population has control over the masses( HINT- GAYS). I see no difference in this story in that the majority of christians didn't stand up to the small minority.

Shame on this church, for letting minority control the actions of the church. And shame on gays who think they can control the moral actions of society.

This is a matter of racism, not about gays, and you're no different than the Baptist @!$%#s who are the topic of this article. You're a minority who have little control of the moral actions of society. More people respect us more these days than they respect conservatives who don't know how to keep their nose out of other people's business. They would rather have a gay couple living next door than a family of bible thumpers who thinks families not like their own are immoral trash and are annoyingly vocal with their opinion. This couple are better going to another church where they are welcome, they would have never become members.

The Bible is inspired by God, written by man.

So were my comic books.

Her wig looks terrible. I wish black women would stop trying to look white.

Right you are CWater and in the same breath, religions are inspired by God, but created, and ultimately perverted, by man.

captn curtass... Most of these so-called "Christians" wouldn't recognize Jesus, the Christ, if he ran them over in the crosswalk. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

So were my comic books.

Cappy: And that's where James Holmes( Colorado shooter) got his inspiration from, huh?

We can think of a number of terrorist attacks that were inspired by the bible and the Christian religion. Anders Breivik is one of the latest examples as he is a self identified Christian crusader who released a 1,500 page manifesto stating that immigrants are undermining Norway's "traditional Christian values."

I am from Mississippi, and, of the Southern Baptist denomination. Unfortunantly, what you say appears to be a GROWING truth. I hear it more and more in conversations, through actions, and by the laws being passed. It seems we have digressed to a period EVEN BEFORE MY TIME.

Many call themselves Christian, but come judement day the truth shall be revealed. It gets me so irritated people calling themselves Christians, when they don't even know what a Christian is.

bat...my mom comes from Mississippi and even tho I am very proud of my family, I don't like some of their history...the crap I used to hear growing up was embarrassing. However, she isn't as bad as she used to be, and now that I live in Alabama, I have seen where more are generally good people.

Unfortunately, there are still @!$%#s out there, and they aren't necessarily Baptists (my rememberences in that church are scary, also).

People just need to use common sense. I don't care what color you are. It's how you treat everyone else that makes you who and what you are.

its news because before you read it you didn't know it occurred, now you have read it and are up to date.

see definitions below

1.
a. Information about recent events or happenings,
especially as reported by newspapers, periodicals, radio, or television.

b. A presentation of such information, as in a
newspaper or on a newscast.

2. New information of any kind

don't be a smartass, whatever.

i like that but let me add to it jessica. the paster is in on it as well. he's hiding behind the congregation. he's the biggest racist in there because he suppose to be a leader but he pretend to be the follower in this situation. i don't hate white people, i have white friends but i stay in my lane. everybody don't think like u so don't espect them to.

@Derrick, I don't necessarily fault the pastor for hiding behind the congregation. I think he wanted to expose what's going on in the church.

First did it say they were Southern Baptist, or just Baptist....and didn't you know that the Southern Baptist Conventions President is BLACK?

And I've heard they were changing their name in their attempt to sound inclusive. It's more important that they change their attitude. Religious groups like these don't care for change and they are very slow to do so.

J,... No, you is wong. Jesus was WHITE, he had blond hair and blue eyes and was 6 foot tall and he spoke real good American and he loved all good white people and he hated gays and he hated sinners and he was WHITE !!!!!

/s

First....catch up...the current President of the Southern Baptist Convention is ......BLACK....then get over your stereotyping bigotry.....

JfromTexas..... LOL! Just to let you know, not all black people have "big lips....large broad nose, and many are certainly anything but "short and scrawny". LOL! Just like Italians and Greeks don't look anything like caucasians from the western portion of Europe. Many Africans from the Horn of Africa, Kenya, Seychelles, Madagascar, and below the equator, eastern Nigeria look different from west Africans as far as bone structure/facial features--some have similar facial features but many do NOT. The only things that are guaranteed to be similar is the medium-to-dark brown skin and curly hair, again--just like the diffferences in eastern vs western Europeans, Asian races, etc. Just had to put that out there as an FYI.

Many religious groups are like the one in question....and always will be. They should all be made to give up their non-profit status, and pay taxes on the $$ that they bilk their sheep out of. The first to join this "pay our fair share" group, should be the catholic church. They've been "sticking it" to their sheeple for many centuries and not just altar boys.

cameron, generalize much, you paint with a broad brush, try changing brushes

John McGreevy, I agree that churches, and most other non-profits and not-for-profits, should pay taxes on the money they collect. Churches expect a prepared military to defend their "freedoms"; they expect to be able to call 911, law enforcement, fire services, etc.; they expect good roads, bridges, tunnels, etc so their people can get to their establishments; etc., etc., etc.

The whole point of having "public works" is so the members of the public, which could not afford the services individually, can pool their monies and all can benefit. All benefit so all should chip in. It's all part of doing "business".

"Jesus did this" and "jesus did that"............sounds like you were there when "it" happened. Either that or you just swallow anything that is thrown at you by "men of the cloth" as if it were fact. Time to wise up.

This is why, while I still consider myself a Christian, I no longer believe in religion. I can believe in God just fine on my own without having to conform to other's twisted beliefs.

No, John McGreevy, Lib4ever79 wasn't there, but he did read the book. Whether or not you believe the book, Lib4ever79 related it contents correctly and made a very valid point.

We should all wise up to many things. A major thing being, if you want to comment on a book, you should first read the book.

cmstubbles, I totally agree. This is exactly why I left all organized religion. After checking out many organized religions, I found them all to be hurtful to my soul. I grew up in organized religion (a number of different ones because we moved a number of times) I was taught hate and division and fear and that God was hiding behind every tree with a lightning bolt in each hand ready to strike me dead if I stumbled. Then add all that to the crap they tried to teach me about creation, the races, and a total non-existence of genetics and science, and I just threw up my hands and said "no way!" I was seven at the time and grew up on a farm. Two cows don't give birth to a horse and two horses don't give birth to a dog, etc. And, two Jews don't give birth to an Asian, a Hispanic, a white and a black! (So, which one did Cain kill? Able, the Unicorn, of course, because his line is not here today! sheesh!) Luckily, I had a dad that was a man of God and a student of the Bible. He taught me to read and learn and discern for myself.

What I find saddest of all is that people who see the flaws in organized religion and reject it, reject God too, as if organized religion was actually designed and is promoted by God. That's throwing the baby out with the bath water. What a shame.

Lib4ever: While I understand your point, I would not have used Ghandi's words about christians especially when Ghandi was a racist himself. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? I suggest you look up Ghandi's life and how he treated the blacks of South Africa. You will find he was just as racist as the SMALL MINORITY of this church's was.

State your source.

More likely they'll just rid themselves of black members.

The couple must have really liked the look of this church. I don't understand why they didn't go to the church they normally attend just to get married. The article stated that they just attended this church a few times. Was the couple even christian? Makes you wonder about that too.

duh.

That's dumb.

-Not a Republican

And you know all Republicans and southeners are racist how?

It should be "dumb", but, as a "white" Mississippian, I can tell you, it is true. I have been chastised in many a conversation for being supportive of "Democrats" (that is accepted code for not supporting, what is considered as, white supportive positions)

ludvig, you don't have to be racist to be ignorant. bat, so you think that Democrats can't be racist...really

wlee: but you do have to be ignorant to be a racist, or a Republican.

ig·no·rant/ˈignərənt/

Adjective:

1. Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
2. Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy".

Racism exists everywhere in the U.S., just more prevalent in the South and in rural areas. While things have improved racially in this country, it still remains as a cancer that festers to this day. It's amazing we have a black president considering how many racists we have in this country.

I was born in the South but I was raised to not hate. But, I can assure you that I saw racism all around me, and it wasn't just coming from white people either.

And, I still see it to this day, as this article proves.

@OneDirtyRat:

But without racism, sexism, homophobia, intolerance of other religious beliefs, denial of scientific facts, etc., how will "Christians" ever be able to achieve their self-fulfilling prophecy of apocalyptic doomsday?

Surely you wouldn't suggest that they be deprived of the very tools necessary to expedite the arrival of their "big day".

*gasp*

TwoParts:

LOL Thanks for that Twoparts, I needed that.

I kinda wish that "day" would get here so all "Christians" would disappear. But, I think most people (non-Christians) know this "day" will never come. What's more likely to happen is everyone is going to experience climate change and what is really going to be our demise. Billions are going to starve to death before any savior comes to their rescue.

Yes, they were like this 100 years ago. Maybe evolution passes them by, in hopes of weeding out the "good ole boy" syndrome. Also, all republicans are not racist, but most racists vote republican.

John, do you have any statistics to back that up, or do you know every mans heart

wlee: It's a given because liberals vote for things that they think will benefit everyone, whereas conservatives vote for things they think will benefit themselves.

Sooo it was ok to say you voted for Obama because he was black?

Charlie come on.....I live in the north, I have never visited Mississippi but there are so many GREAT southern people and personal friends of mine. I do not know anyone in Mississippi but remember they are our fellow Americans......so now I guess they are still fighting the civil war? We have so many great states....maybe Mississippi has not been informed.....I would take a very educated guess that there are numerous good people there that if I was stranded on a hwy would help....I wish to believe they would help me...

That's true. In fact even most blacks will admit they can be their own worst enemy. Nobody here is denying racism is alive an well in the backwards USofA on all fronts. But this story is about a Christian church not marrying people because of the color of the skin. Much different than good ol' racism. Kind of like there are pedophiles of all races and colors, but its different when we discover its a member of the clergy. A church by definition would be held by a higher standard.

do you know every black person in this country? if not, i don't think you're qualified to say that "blacks are the worst racists of all." and because you've made this assumption, do you think what the church is doing to this couple is qualified? they are obviously not racist if they want to get married in a church where they are the minority.

The point, mike and mindy, is that it is absolute BS for NBC to jump all over a story like this when at the same time they refuse to run stories about black racial violence that has been taking place ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in recent months. It is obvious that it represents a liberal agenda of painting all blacks as the victims of evil white oppressors and I am sick of it. Blacks do NOT get a free pass to be racists a$$holes.

And mindy, you're not so smart, are you? Because I said NOTHING about "all blacks". I was obviously talking about the blacks who have been guilty of mob violence directed towards whites. And they ARE racists, and there are a lot of them. Try doing a little google research on the subject of recent black mob violence. You might be surprised.

And no, I do not condone the actions of this church. But don't expect me to care either if racist blacks in this country are going to get a free pass. Let's not forget the racist Eric Holder, who refused to prosecute the Black Panthers who were intimidating voters in Philly because he "won't prosecute "his" people. Do you really believe that such actions and statements aren't sending a message to racist blacks in this country?

Who said blacks get a 'free pass' to be a-holes. A racist is a racist no matter what color they are. And when you single out "blacks who have been guilty of mob violence" that's no different than singling out a group of racist rednecks or the KKK. Some people, black and white, DO believe they have a right to be racist. Blacks don't corner the market there.

You're not getting the point here.

Mike, you are not getting the point.

They HAVE been getting a free pass by the mainstream media that refuses to report such incidents. There is NO justification for ignoring the RAMPANT black on white violence that has been taking place all over the country in recent months but than run a stupid story like this, other than to manipulate the public and continue to implement the liberal agenda of painting blacks as the innocent victims and whites as their evil oppressors.

If white people had participated in even ONE mob event like blacks have been doing all over the country, the headlines would be blaring the incident and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be screaming their fool heads off. I am sick to death of the double standard. And I have news for you - cr*p like this is setting race relations back at least two generations in this country.

I'm not saying anyone gets a free-pass to be a jerk. I'm saying if African-Americans are a little biased and upset it's because whites enslaves their ancestors and treated them like animals for a large part of the last century. Their bias is more justified than whites- who have always been the dominate oppressor and have no basis for treating them that way. NO ONE gets a free pass to discriminate but for you to say most blacks or make a large generalization about how a group feels about something is wrong.

It's not the same, grilledcheese! a few isolated incidents from a MINORITY group does not equate to hundreds of years of oppression from a MAJORITY group in which the judicial system and law enforcement supported. historical context!!! minorities have been taking white people's garbage for hundreds of years and a few uprisings don't mean that we are all racist or getting free-passes to do whatever we want. It means we are frustrated and trying to get our point across because our opinions are largely ignored - even by the president himself.

You're right grilledcheese i'm not getting your point because we can go back and forth arguing both sides of the coin. But if it makes you feel any better, as a "liberal" (ooooh I know, dirty word!!), I have not bought into any liberal agendas of blacks as the innocent victims. I completely understand they are just as capable of hate and bigotry towards whites. Don't worry the media isn't that good.

The point, mike and mindy, is that it is absolute BS for NBC to jump all over a story like this when at the same time they refuse to run stories about black racial violence that has been taking place ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in recent months

NBC has REFUSED? What did they do, send you rejection letter when you proposed a series of articles? Or, they just understand that the reading public identifies better with specific individuals than with nameless crowds.

Does anyone else recognize GrilledCheese's comment as the quintessential "I wasn't born a racist but black on white violence made me one"? One can't argue with somebody who insists that black on white violence "has run RAMPANT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in recent months (sic)". Even though he fails to cite an example, I think it's safe to say he's "concerned" about citizens of cities and municipalities that have taken to the streets to protest what they see as unfair Police violence against people in their communities. Otherwise known as "race riots" LOL What a dick.

Thank you!!! and he's mad at the so called "liberal media" for not agreeing with him and posting articles demonizing minorities just because he wants to. lol what a baby....

Here we go again with the "poor, oppressed white people"! Do white people get followed around a store simply because of the color of their skin? Do white people get denied the right to get married in a church simply because of the color of their skin? Do people assume a white kid is a "thug" simply because of the color of his skin? Give me a break!

Oh, and I'm white.

Get going, and you calling him a dick just invalidated your point. It's his opinion, take it for what it's worth give yours and leave out the name calling. It's called a debate. Personally we will never get anywhere unless we forgive the past, I for one know I can't channge it, I can only deal with the present

There are no winners here, only racists.

sorry you are wrong ,homosexuality is cleary sin , being a racist is sin. we as christians go by the bible not by popular movements

Surely ru wade, is kidding. Christianity changes based on popluar movements. Or the movement of money. Consider that your Bible is in English. That was a popular change. Or you being permitted to read it at all - also a popular movement.