NYPD to unveil terrorist tracking system, Commissioner Kelly says

The New York Police Department will officially unveil its sophisticated surveillance system to track criminals and potential terrorists as soon as next week, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Saturday.

Kelly said the city developed the software with Microsoft, The Associated Press reported.

Kelly said the "domestic awareness system" combines citywide video surveillance with law enforcement databases.


He said the tracking system will be officially unveiled by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg as soon as next week. Kelly spoke Saturday before an audience at the Aspen Security Forum.

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New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly is shown at a July 20 news conference.

NYPD officials in New York told NBC News Saturday evening they had no information about Kelly's comments.

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The NYPD has been under fire for surveillance of Muslim communities and partnering with the CIA to track potential terrorism suspects. Muslim groups have sued to shut down the NYPD programs.

Kelly defended the policies as key to thwarting 14 terrorist plots against the city since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

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The NYPD has been reported to have been working on a domain awareness system for years. A 2009 NYPD counterterrorism document describing the system's use says:

The Domain Awareness System is a counterterrorism tool designed to:

  • Facilitate the observation of pre-operational activity by terrorist organizations or their agents
  • Aid in the detection of preparations to conduct terrorist attacks
  • Deter terrorist attacks
  • Provide a degree of common domain awareness for all Stakeholders
  • Reduce incident response times
  • Create a common technological infrastructure to support the integration of new security technology.

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Just do it. No need to unveil how we do it, else the enemy will learn how to beat the system too

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Reply#1 - Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL

Do you even know the topic besides the headline?

Back to the topic: Yeah, NYC will release the information now that they have been outed, and shamed into their violation of rights. Minimal information of course, or information that doesn't matter. This is going to give a whole ton of lawyers a lot of money because NYC is going to be sued for millions over the flagrant, provable violations they made.

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#1.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

coffee,

have some more....or less....i cant decide which.........:)

    #1.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

    The 'War On Terror' is a war on you and me.

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    #1.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

    So is mayor Bloomberg going to use this sophisticated surveillance to ensure nobody is in possession of a 32 oz soda?

      #1.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

      Hi, it's me, Pigotry!

      • 1 vote
      #1.6 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:17 AM EDT
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      Exactly right! No need to give away the methods....just keep after those muslim bastards! NYPD should be a model to the world...they know where the terrorism begins, it's always in the muslim mosque, so keep after every one of these islamist cowardly scum.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

      Right, because every terrorist has been Muslim or their terror plans started in a Mosque. You're just pure ignorant.

      Who's to say they won't be tracking you because of the pure mention of NYPD and terrorism?

      • 11 votes
      #2.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:59 AM EDT

      i believe the most recent terrorist attack here was done by a white guy.

      too bad the muslim's own bible orders them to kill everybody else.

        #2.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:04 AM EDT

        @Diligence4ever: "too bad the muslim's own bible orders them to kill everybody else."

        Wow. Just wow. You anti-Muslim bigots are hideously stupid.

        • 5 votes
        #2.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

        Do you really think this is about Muslims? This is about Global domination by the UN It's a matter of time before the brainwashed militia start hitting our own people with hell fire missiles from drones, If you think they won't then ask the folks from Waco, TX or Ruby Ridge, Oh they are all dead, no warrants served FEDS just deamed that these guys were a threat and put out their Propaghanda. Then Murdered them.

          #2.5 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:22 AM EDT

          One would think that our own Militia would question any order to attack the citizens that they are sworn to protect but at the Tyrannical Governments whim they will act without question for fear of being procecuted under the UCMJ. Second of all they won't even know why the are doing it they will just be fallowing orders and American lives will be lost. Our Government is out of control. Global war on terror is WWIII in different words and free will, free thinking people are the terrorist by this Governments Patriot act.

            #2.6 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:36 AM EDT
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            Good and if you Muslims don't like it to bad it's all your fault for us losing more and more freedoms. It is because of your sorry people I will never see my half sisters. Me feel sorry for you people I should think not. I don't hate you I just do not like how you say one thing and do another it got old a long time ago.

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            Reply#3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:38 AM EDT

            Instead of spouting a bunch of bigotry towards muslims ellie, perhaps you should re-focus your anger toward the US government. They are the ones responsible for this whole mess, not muslims...

            P.S. If one person or a small group of people do something bad it doesn't automatically make the whole race of people bad, just food for thought.

            • 7 votes
            #3.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:54 AM EDT
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            This will eliminate the need for a big police presence on the street. Setting behind a monitor and watching the crime as it unfolds and then tracking the perpetrator to his home will be much more economical. Of course I don't see how this is going to stop a terrorist after he/she has blown themselves up. It might help you locate where he came from but it's not going to stop anything unless he's wearing a sign telling you what his/her plans are.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:06 AM EDT

            Life is not a video game, and we are not inside one.

            • 3 votes
            #4.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:20 AM EDT

            You can replay the video in slow motion and it will be easier to find all the pieces.

              #4.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

              Confussed, that would seem logical would it not? Better tracking means lower need to patrol. Unfortunately that that is not supported by Bureau of Justice Statistics. Violent crime since 911 has seen a continual and significant drop. Murder in particular. However, in that same time frame police involved homicide has steadily increased. Since 2008 we have seen a 30% increased rate of police involved homicide, in spite of the continuing drop in general homicide rates. This system will more likely further enable the increase in police involved homicides.

              • 2 votes
              #4.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

              The more police and surveillance you have the more crime you have. It's a fact. The problem is that most crime is petty and not particularly worth the effort to convict and/or jail, but when you've got 1000's of police and watchers they've got to look busy and create numbers that rationalize each years budget. And when you privatize prisons you've got to find a way to fill those beds. Stupid really.

              • 3 votes
              #4.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

              more cameras? Are you daft? tell ya what how about you being under "surveillance 24/7 is your life so squeaky clean that you could handle that?.....any laws made for you can and often are used against you.

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              #4.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
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              Boy, use the scare word, and everyone bends over? How many people honestly think this is necessary? If the top wasn't so corrupted, the bottom wouldn't reflect the top, now would it?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:20 AM EDT

              This is a little off topic but here it is. I wish they would stop reporting groups as Muslim and saying which group they belong to (I don't know what the different groups are because I don't hear it from anyone). This just supports the stereotype and the problems. There are some groups which call themselves Muslim who are terrorist groups (its true even if you think I am a bigot for saying it). The vast majority of people who claim to be Muslim are normal descent people. The same happens for Christians unfortunately. When there is some deranged extremist who spouts hate filled bile I don't want that or think that it should be associated with my religion. The media usually reports this as this Christian says all Jews should be exterminated rather than what they should say (if they should report some of this nonsense at all) is this person from the crazy mountain society for the persecution of Jews ( this group is fictitious) which only has 12 members says all Jews should be exterminated. This would focus the animosity on those few hateful people who need to be shunned and scorned by society without stirring up animosity towards the billions of faithful religious people (of all faiths) who strive to improve themselves and the world around them. A fundamental component of all major religions is the desire to improve ones self and those around them (not through coercion). In my opinion if it fails to meet this requirement it should not be considered a religion.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#6 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:01 AM EDT

              do you think they will only be used against Muslims?.....cute....naive....but cute........:)

                #6.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:53 PM EDT
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                Umm. lets see, we are attacked by crazy Muslim fanatics that the idiots at the CIA & the Saudi's trained and funded for years, our own so-called "Intelligence" community was asleep at the wheel when we got clobbered, the geniuses in Washington then create another pork laden agency called "Homeland Security" if the other 20 agencies didn't talk to one another what makes anyone think this new money pit will make any difference. Apart from spying on it's own citizens and selling the information to our largest retailers and anyone else willing to make big campaign contributions to the current fake Democrat & Republican Parties, fear-mongering and total control of our media means we are now the world's largest banana republic.

                Kudos to NYPD, they know these alphabet clowns can't get the job done so they better do it themselves.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#7 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:17 AM EDT

                alphabet clowns

                like NYPD?.......................:)

                ( i know folks but sometimes its just too easy)

                  #7.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:56 PM EDT
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                  #1. Loose Lips Sink Ships: why inform everyone because now the terrorists will be aware and they adapt very easily - remember the very first video by Bin Laden after 9/11 where the background was identifiable because of the shape of mountain peaks behind him? Well the US announced that and the very next Bin Laden video had a blanket for the background so nothing would be identified as for a geographic location.

                  #2 This computer tracking program according to the article states:

                  "Kelly said the city developed the software with Microsoft, The Associated Press reported".

                  Ever think that hackers cannot penetrate it or disrupt it? Even though Microsoft will have "tested" it prior to delivery to NY-PD, how many times have they had to patch flaws in many of theor developed software. You don't think terrorists have computer geniuses too?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#8 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:50 AM EDT

                  Computers are wonderful until they don't work!

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                  #8.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                  What makes you think that they are releasing any pertinent or vital information? This just a public relations gig. I'm sure the news release went out in several languages, including Arabic.

                  Hey, monkey, here's a banana peel...see the bananas are all gone...now go play

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                  Computers are wonderful until they don't work!

                  True, what else would we be doing without them? interacting in real time and space with ...GULP ...real people?....HORRORS......:)

                    #8.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:59 PM EDT
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                    It's not that hard to track terrorists , just use voter lists , according the the GOP faithfull at least 49% of the counrty which votes liberal are . I 'm just going by stats spoke by Rush and the Republican party .

                    So America , be afraid , be very afraid because almost 50% of the people you see are TERRORISTS

                    But then again I'm more likley to die at the hands of an American drunk driver , your daughter texting or another legal gun owner enjoying their 2nd admendment rights

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#9 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                    You are 10 times more likely to die while in police custody than you are of a terrorist attack.

                    • 7 votes
                    #9.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                    BodyDouble, you are more correct that you might expect. Prior to 2008 police involved homicide rates tracked with general homicide rates. As the general rate fell, so did police involved homicides, with a 6 to 12 month delay (measure crime and adjust enforcement). However in 2008 all of that changed. Police involved homicides in 2008-2009 increased at a rate of 23%, while general homicide rates have continued an accelerated decline since 2006. These increased powers of police brought on by a need to control terrorism has led to significant increases in what is considered justified homicide by police in general particularly at the city and county level.

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:24 AM EDT
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                    It would seem George Orwell was off by less than 30 years. Truly amazing how quick some people are to give up their liberty.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#10 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                    Not really, this all started with the "war on drugs"of our government during the Reagan Administration. From 1984 on we have steadily been losing our personal freedoms and liberties so the government can protect us from ourselves. With the use of fear mongering and propaganda the wingnuts have slowly but surely turned us into the police state that science fiction writers warned us would happen, 9/11 accelerated the process a bit but it was already in place to stop us from smoking the "deadly demon weed" which Reagan thought "created liberals".

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                    Actually it was earlier. Nixon started the War on Drugs. Remember paraquat?

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat#.22Paraquat_pot.22

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:00 PM EDT
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                    Those who are constantly looking over there shoulder in fear of being stabbed in the back do so because they have spent their life stabbing others in the back. We fear others because we have made others fear us, we are afraid another country and/or religion will try and force their way of life on us because we have forced our way of life on everyone else, we worry that everyone wants what we have because everything we have we have taken from someone else.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#11 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

                    It's true, the one person who is convinced you will do him harm is the person with bad intentions toward you.

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                    #11.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:23 AM EDT
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                    Police state.

                      Reply#12 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

                      kinda

                        #12.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

                        Bloomberg's army in their stages of attempting to take over the united states citizens...

                        starting with the fat .....er....."obese".......ones.................:)

                          #12.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                          More like bureaucracy state.

                          • 3 votes
                          #12.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:02 PM EDT
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                          If you have any doubts that the terrorists have been infiltrating our police and military, consider this. Nidal Hassem was no lone wolf, the FBI is currently investigating 100 cases of possible insurgents in the ranks. NYPDs' current kidnap for ransom plot involving a muslim detective. Pretty frightning stuff. They are here among us and they hate us.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#13 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

                          Boo

                          • 1 vote
                          #13.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

                          And boo hoo too.

                          • 2 votes
                          #13.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
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                          He said the tracking system will be officially unveiled by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg as soon as next week.

                          are you kidding? hell they cant even keep track of their own cops, terrorist tracking? yeah right. more like tracking people who are in possession of super sized soda's..........freeze!....gently place that big gulp on the ground, back away...... lie down hands out in front of you,... feel lucky punk? ............:)

                            Reply#14 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

                            LOL

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                            #14.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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                            great idea, after they catch them they can tie them up and keep them in cop garages freeing up jail cells.........:).

                            .wish i owned a garage in NYC....you could put alot of people in a 24 square bollock garage...at say....$150.00 a day....................:)

                              Reply#15 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

                              This is just the first stages of a plan to visually track every living person 24 hours a day seven days a week. It's coming people so get ready for it. Any opposition to this plan will be met with an iron fist. You will be publicly identified as a terrorist supporter, and a threat to National Security. You will be silenced by any means necessary...The days of privacy are O V E R!!!

                              Own a car with GPS? Guess what you are being tracked 24/7. Go thru a divorce and watch the information your Ex shows up with in court. Coordinates showing your exact whereabouts that were obtained from the Vehicles Manufacturers data base that monitors your vehicles location 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Don't think so? Call your local Car dealer and ask about the program. Own a phone that's GPS enabled? Well guess what anyone can pinpoint your exact location as long as the battery is in your phone. Don't believe me? Just ask any DEA agent how they track suspects, and anyone else they want to. No you don't need a court order to do it. A simple phone call can make it happen. Ever wanna listen in on someone without getting a court order? Just turn their cell phone into a microphone. Don't know how to do that? Just give the Secret Service a call and ask them how they do it...Oh don't expect the answer but it will be a fun phone call which will probably put you on the watch list. It's not supposed to be legal but who cares about court cases when your out to intimidate and ruin whomever you deem an enemy.

                                Reply#16 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

                                Your absolutley correct, and dont forget your credit card and atm cards. Put all these bits and bytes together and we can pretty much know what you've been up to and where you have been. PING....PING...PING.....

                                  #16.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                                  tin hat time may be closer then we think....................

                                    #16.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                                    Drive older cars without GPS or defeat the one you have. Use burner cell phones without GPS turned on. Never use the same route twice in a row to go anywhere, including to the bathroom.

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                                    #16.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:25 PM EDT
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                                    scary thing is the very same laws and technology put into place in the guise to protect us can, and too often are, used against us.......slippery slope.

                                      Reply#17 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:25 PM EDT
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                                      I am all in favor of monitoring websites and messages from suspected terrorists. However, what does it take to be considered a suspect. The TSA is gate raping grandma and grandpa at the airport terminals. They must be considered suspects as well as infants and toddlers, huh. Does this mean that absolutley anyone can be subject to e-mail and digital invasion? This whole political correctness issue will be our undoing. Agencies fail to connect the dots because of fear of profiling individuals based on their religion. The TSA is the biggest boondoggle since Obamacare was presented to us. Use common sense you beurocratic pin heads. If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck. It's probably a duck. Get your filthy hands off Grandma and Grandpa!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#18 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                                      I applaud the NYPD on their ability to prevent terrorist attacks since 9-11. We got lucky on the Times Square Bomber and vigilant citizens helped identify others and bring attention to their plots. We are still a nation at war and i believe vigilance from the common citizen is more effective then any high tech surveillance system. If you see something suspicious, report it. Hopefully it will be investigated. We know there are cameras everywhere but who is policing the police?

                                        Reply#19 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                                        Now they will be able to enforce the drink size law! The watchers are more scary than those they are seeking to watch.

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                                        Reply#21 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                                        Mohammed Atta the ringleader of 9-11 drew red flags from a ticket agent in Maine, but the agent failed to notify security because of racial sensitivity and wanted to keep his job and not be considered racist. Abdul Nissan the Fort Hood murderer was on the FBI's radar but they failed to follow up because of P.C. His superior called him a "loose cannon" but did not take action because of P.C.. FBI Agent John O'neill's warnings about the 9-11 plot went un-heeded because he was considered too much of a cowboy. While investigating the USS Cole bombing he was told by the U.S. Ambassador to Yemen Barbara K. Bodine, to get out of the country and would not allow the investigation to proceed she didnt want to offend the Yemeni's. Unfortunally he died in the actual event he forsaw. What good did all the video cameras at the airport termanals do to stop 9-11? We have video of every one of the terrorists to look at and try to figure out what went wrong.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#22 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                                        So much for our Constitutional right to privacy. Orwell's '1984' is happening before our eyes in the name of "SAFETY". In this way we are neither safe nor free. We should make cameras and drones illegal domestically and use the old fashion method of over whelming force on criminals and terrorists. Doing it this way compromises all of our freedoms.

                                          Reply#23 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                                          More of out freedoms taken from us= yet another victory for the terrorists. It is so pitiful and stupid that my fellow americans accept this loss of freedom with hardly any fighting back at all, every day i lose more respect for my country and fellow citizens. Our soldiers are not fighting and dying in the mideast only to come back home to a country completely bereft of the freedoms they are sacrificing themselves for.

                                            Reply#24 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                                            Good to know they are watching the GREAT people of the NEW Babylon, to bad it will soon spread to the TRULY great city's of America.

                                            TSHANNY; If you see something suspicious, report it.

                                            OK, NYC...

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                                            Reply#25 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                                            Don't "Loose Lips [still] sink ships" ?????? Why tell how we track terrorists? Why aid and abet the enemy ???

                                              Reply#26 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                                              If any terrorists are reading this post I have one thing to say .............."You can run.......... but you will only die tired"!

                                                #26.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:54 PM EDT
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