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Courtesy the family via KUSA
Veronica Moser-Sullivan, 6, was the youngest victim of the rampage.
Updated at 5 p.m., Sunday ET: A woman who was shot in the Aurora, Colo., theater shooting rampage has suffered a miscarriage, her family said.
Ashley Moser, the mother of the youngest victim killed in the shooting, was pregnant and was shot in the neck and stomach during the attack July 20. The family said the trauma that Moser sustained caused a miscarriage and that she underwent more surgery on Saturday morning.
Moser, 25, is being treated at Aurora Medical Center.
The family released the following statement:
Ashley Moser is recovering from an additional surgery she had this morning. Tragically, the extreme trauma she sustained also caused a miscarriage.
We want to send a special thank you to the courageous heroes of law enforcement, other first responders, paramedics, and doctors and nurses who have all gone beyond the call-of-duty in caring for our daughter, granddaughter and all of the other victims of this tragic event.
Our sincere appreciation goes out to all of those who have been sending well-wishes, prayers and good thoughts to Ashley. Her lifetime of care will be a long road. For those who wish to donate, please go to any Wells Fargo Bank and request the "Donation Account for Ashley and Veronica Moser." This is the only official donation account for the family.
Funeral arrangements for Moser's daughter, Veronica Moser-Sullivan, 6, are still pending.
Until recently, Moser and her daughter had lived with Moser's father -- Veronica's grandfather -- David Moser. But two months ago, David Moser, 65, died after a 10-month battle with leukemia.
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Defense attorney Karen Steinhauser, a former prosecutor and current adjunct professor at the University of Denver, told The Associated Press that suspected gunman James Holmes, 24, will not face an additional charge as result of the miscarriage. She said charges in Colorado apply onto to those "who had been born and alive."
Holmes, a former doctoral student studying neuroscience, is accused of opening fire in the theater, killing Veronica and 11 others, and wounding 58. He is due to be formally charged Monday in Colorado.
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This poor family. After losing so much already, now this. Sincere condolences to all affected.
This really sucks!!! Not only does she lose her daughter in the shooting, she then loses the baby she was carrying too. I hope she recovers and can get the help and support she is going to need to get through this. It is unfortunate that they can not add another count of murder against the SoB responsible.
Just a quick wish, for Ms Moser and Family and all the other victims, to have the strength to move on from this tragic event...
I' so sorry to hear this. This woman has lost so much already.
I hope they tack this onto the killers charges as well.
JS,
While Colorado does not have an Unborn Victim law on the books, there is the Unborn Victims of Violence Act signed into federal law by Bush in 2004. So it is very possible we will see additional charges from this.
Unfortunately at this point, an additional charge probably won't mean much. This is so heartbreaking.
Technical question that I sure hope doesn't turn into THE debate. If abortion is legal, how is there an unborn victim law?
Out of respect of the victims PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS A PRO-LIFE PRO-CHOICE DEBATE!
The unborn victim laws are for violent crimes Tim. Because sometimes extra sick people PLAN to kill a pregnant woman for various reasons... and then there are whackos like the Aurora shooter who kill indiscriminately and happen to hit a pregnant woman.
It is different than a woman planning to give up a child through abortion.
Please don't fight the abortion debate here. I'm just trying to answer his question the best I can based on the laws as they are now, not the way we might want them that aren't going to change based on a fight on a comment thread...
Just an unbelievable trio of tragedies for this family, and it breaks my heart. It's all so senseless.
"....criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding".... recognize this? Its from Batman begins, too bad it is completely true.
Why do they need a trial for this POS? There were enough witnesses who saw him do it. Just get a rope and a tall tree and get the job over with. Don't waste a dime on his food and housing.
Sorry to interject - but who was the dad? And why isn't he mourning the loss of this baby?
davefromdanapointca:
We need a trial for this POS for the same reasons that folks can get guns. It's part of our US Constitution!
How interesting to see that some "gun advocates" are leaving "condolences" messages on this thread. Talk about denial.
This tragedy could have been avoided -or at least minimized- if lunatics could not get semi-automatic weapons so readily.
I'm not sure how the federal law works, but usually for state laws (which I don't believe Colorado has one), the pregnancy is considered viable for charges to be filed - meaning the pregnancy has to be at least 22 - 24 weeks along. Perhaps its the same with the federal law? Does anyone know?
Like you requested (and is entirely an appropriate request on this seed), I'm not going to engage in an abortion debate. Just trying to get some information on this particular law and how it might impact this case.
Maybe he is mourning the loss - but is chosing to remain private. Maybe he's not. But really, it's none of our business unless they want to make it known. We need to respect the privacy of those involved in this situation. It's ok to say they are in your thoughts, prayers, etc., etc. - but we are in NO position to demand ANYTHING of these victims.
I believe that she and the dad of her daughter are divorced because I have seen him speak on TV. Don't know if he is father of the unborn baby.
mojojo-3716873
In both instances you described it in such a way as the pregnant woman is the victim. That is not what these laws do. The laws don't talk about the pregnant woman being the victim, rather the "child in utero" is the victim of the federal law.
Tim was pointing out the interesting conundrum we have, and there really is no way to have raised the question without raising the debate around abortion. Either the unborn can be victims or they cannot. One becomes a victim if something is done to them which is harmful and is against their will or it causes them a loss and is undertaken with fraud. Being the parent of another human only releases one from liability if they are the mother carrying the child for these particular laws.
Thus we have unborn victim laws, but pregnant woman are immune from prosecution under them for actions taken against their own unborn child as a matter of statutory language, so challenges to the laws for conflicting with Roe v. Wade are impossible.
So there is no debate to be had with respect to these laws. The statutory law complies with the controlling opinions of the Supreme Court thus pro-choice groups who have been against the unborn victim laws are wrong.
Condolences mean nothing as long as ordinary people are allowed to purchase assault weapons 'without question', and 100 round ammunition clips, 'without question'. Similar tragedies will happen again, and the next time, who knows, it just might be you. No one in that theater could have been prepared for what happened, even if they were carrying a weapon. They were caught off guard, could not see when the smoke bomb or whatever it was that clouded their vision was used, so don't go claiming you are prepared. This was the least expected occurance in that theater.
Seriously, people? Turning this into a gun debate when the story is about the loss this woman suffered of both a beautiful daughter and an unborn child? Are you that uncaring?
Why not go for the privacy advocates who stopped the mental health professionals from reporting their suspicions? Why not go after the unionized state workers who failed to make the proper notations in this criminals record? Why? BECAUSE NEITHER MATTERS TO THIS STORY. Why not just leave condolences,or prayers, or whatever you do, and leave it at that? Must it be political?
If Tim-1496116 didn't want this anti abortion debate why did he bring it up in the first place? Telling other NOT to turn it into a abortion debate is ridiculous. You started the debate Tim. It was not necessary. This is not the time or place for such a "discussion". Does anyone think for one second that this grieving woman and family gives a damn about the abortion issue right now? It just doesn't matter. What we all need to do is pray for them and ask God to put a hedge of thorns around them to keep them safe from further harm. And that included the evil barbs Satan will throw at them via people like Tim and others using their horrific experience in a political discussion.
Tim, you just turned it into a pro-life vs pro-choice debate you moron.
I wonder how long it'll take for the pro life dipsh*ts to start politicizing this and clamoring for the charges to be changed from 12 counts of first degree murder to 13.
congrats IRESPOND on being the first to make this a political debate. it is holmes's fault. the guns did not pick themselves up and go to the theater and kill people. HE did. end of story. i'm sure what you really meant to say is "my condolences" to the victim. so i'll say it for you. my condolences ms. moser.
how do you know he isn't mourning the loss? maybe he just wants privacy during this tragic time. idiot.
Hello folks, how many people know that there are many new reports from eye witnesses that there was more than one person involved in this tragedy? Video reports from eye witnesses have come out that tear gas used came from several directions and that at least another person was allowed in from an emergency exit. They also found at least two gas masks at the scene. This whole story smells of a false flag just like "fast and furious" where weapons were sold to the Mexican drug cartels to be used in drug smuggling and murders so that a case could be made so our second amendment rights could be taken away from us.
Folks the government is trying to take your guns away! Just recently there is a cyber security bill where an amendment has been added to infringe on your constitutional right, not privilege, to own guns.
Tim - very cagey! You want to state your personal views on abortion but you don't want anyone else to state theirs. You are the lowest of the low. There was absolutely no call for your comment except you own self-serving purposes. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be able to figure out that if someone loses a baby due to a violent crime, that is not the same as choosing an abortion, Einstein. Go crawl back under your rock.
Holy crap people, relax. I'm asking how the law is able to prosecute him for that. It's not a rhetorical question, I'm honestly curious. It just seems to me that someone would be able to cite abortion law as a defense against charging him. That's all. It's a legal technicality question.
Why are you people so quick to engage in arguments and lash out at others? Are you this aggressive towards others in person? I have a feeling you're not; you'd get your teeth knocked in. People like you are the reason that mature adult conversations can't take place on this website.
Relax, take a breath and hopefully you won't blow that bulging artery in your head in the near future.
Don't worry Tim... sometimes the vine can get like this... "Third Rail Politics" will always garner some intolerance. I believe a Poster earlier answered your question that because Arizona doesn't have "unborn victim law" there is unlikely a additional charge... they could pursue it but I think at this stage of arraignment, it would add nothing to the current case. I don't think the validity of the Child as life is in question.
To some of the Gun control advocates I got the same thing as you Tim... blasted because of my view.. but I was not just right but spot on: I said the "un-intended" consequence of this tragedy will be a increase of those going out to buy weapons.. not the reverse. Guns sales rose 40% as reported on this network. One could hold this simply as un-reasoned human nature but the base need of protection, fight/flight responses will ALWAYS answer with more force not less. You guys can make all the arguments against gun ownership or laws governing the same. The "sad" truth is.... If gun control laws were lets say like some in Europe... as soon as a "tragedy" happened... you will find Gun ownership going up.. not down. Doesn't matter the law or location. More gun laws would not have mitigated this whatsoever if a killer is determined as indicated by this "accused" planning and preparation.
You can bet your life that no one else in the theater was packin'. Totally defenseless.
WOAH! I didn't see Tim's question turn into a debate until 2 or 3 people jumped all over him TURNING it into a debate (or attack is more like it).
I think it was a valid question.
"It just seems to me that someone would be able to cite abortion law as a defense against charging him."
I think you may have answered your own question there. My guess would be that if the state is pro-choice it would not split hairs. If their law states that until a certain point a fetus is not considered a living being and therefore the mother has the choice to abort, then they wouldn't be able to turn around and say that by him causing her to abort is murder. Because they've already defined viability, they can't turn around and say that just because it wasn't the mother who chose to abort her baby, that it is murder.
But that is just my guess.
They may be able to bring other charges against him though, but who knows?
Actually that is pretty much exactly what they do. Although you can drop the viability, it isn't really part of the law on unborn victims. In its most simple form the law says (paraphrasing here):
Okay I just tagged that to get a dot in front of it not change the font size.
This is tragic in so many ways. God bless her!
This lady has lost enough, geez!
Barabara Adams jackson--how do you know what the father is feeling? And is it ANY of your concern?? I think not..and stop being judgemental!!!
So sad she lose 1 child and the ever gets to see the other 1 born.
My condolences to her and her family, sad.
They need to add this as one more charge of murder....
I wish they could too, and back in the day they would have, but since america now seems to think its nothing more then a blob of cells and a parasite , there cant be any way to get a homocide for a miscarriage.
Oh don't worry he will be charged in the murder of this baby. Only if it's the mother's decision to have an abortion is the killing of a fetus legal. It's called the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, look it up.
Marmaduke,
Sorry to burst your agenda, but Bush signed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act into federal law back in 2004 and it's still on the books. Colorado itself is one of only 14 states that doesn't have a similar law in effect but since Federal charges trump state it is very possible we will see additional charges from this.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act provides that, under federal law, any person who causes death or injury to a child in the womb shall be charged with a separate offense, in addition to any charges relating to the mother.
It counts in Kansas, not sure about Colorado. (they may have a similar law. If they do, I am sure they will use it)
But then again, according to those on either coast, we're nothing more than a bunch of back water hayseeds. But I guess we still know what really matters.
My sympathies go to this family, I do wish there was more I could, than just send a note.
Marmaduke49, you are misinformed. America thinks, in more than half of her states, that a person responsible for the death of an unborn fetus can be prosecuted. I don't know about the law in Colorado, but I do know this isn't the place for a debate about abortion, when life begins, or any other emotionally charged off-topic subject. It doesn't matter what you or I think about those deeply personal issues: it's all just rhetoric to Ashley Moser. Use your righteous indignation to propel yourself to a Wells-Fargo Bank to donate to this grievously injured woman. It's the only thing we, the public, can do for those two children lost and the terribly wounded mother left behind.
machspeeddemon
"Use your righteous indignation to propel yourself to a Wells-Fargo Bank to donate to this grievously injured woman. It's the only thing we, the public, can do for those two children lost and the terribly wounded mother left behind."
Couldn't have said it better myself. Good call.
It all depends on how far along she was whether it is considered a cell or fetus. If it is already a fetus, then he can be charged with murder.
Prior to enactment of the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, federal law, the "child in utero" was, as a general rule, not recognized as a victim of federal crimes of violence. Thus, in a federal crime that injured a pregnant woman and killed the "child in utero," no homicide was recognized, in most cases.
One exception was the ""born alive rule", applied in U.S. v. Spencer a case in which the child was born alive and died shortly afterwards; therefore there was no doubt that the decedent was once a living person under the law.
From a legal standpoint does this really even matter in this case? The guy is facing such serious charges (14 capital murder charges) that he will never see the light of day again even if he is found insane. No such criminal has ever been released back into the public.
Odd that I don't see much religion on this board. If I were a believer the trauma this woman alone has endured would seriously make me question my faith. How does a "benevolent God" allow such tragedy? This woman is also still paralyzed as she was wounded in the throat and is still in critical condition. No amount of money or support will ever make her life anything close to normal again. Look at that little girl and tell me that her death (especially the method) was some God's will? Her death alone is cruelty enough to this woman. A bit late for prayers.
why care, if he's charged with 12 or 13 murders? What's the difference? If he gets the death penalty, he only can be killed once! So, why bother ???
I'm with Volker. It doesn't make a difference and it's not going to tip any scales.
voxrationis, my God is one who grants us all free will to choose what we do in this life. We can choose His way, not choose His way, speak out against Him, kill others if we choose (a commandment-breaker, but still a choice). Our choices determine whether we live with Him in eternity or burn in Hell. If what happened on earth was all because God MADE it that way, we wouldn't be choosing right versus wrong, and therefore could not earn our way to heaven. It makes us humble, it breaks us at times, and makes us have serious doubts about the world. But regardless, Holmes exercised his free will in choosing to harm innocent people. Of course God hates to see people harmed as they were. But there are others who have miraculous stories, such as one victim shot in the head (read bstrait.wordpress.com). Those stories are ones that should be brought to light as evidence that He DOES exist, even in the midst of this horrific tragedy.
Prayers and love to Ms. Moser. To have to deal with one child's death is impossible enough to bear, let alone another child's you never even knew and who possessed the hope for the future.
volker and Bob - What it matters in justice for the victim and their families. Think of it this way; If this was your daughter, mother or wife, would you not wish the person responsible for their death to be held accountable for that death? If it doesn't matter, why charge him with more than one count of anything? If we try him for one murder, they should just let the rest go, is that your thinking?
GAWD, so sad. I hope she finds peace somehow, someway. I take my girls to the movies ALL the time; they were just wanting to have fun....unreal. Someone equated this murdering spree to car accidents. Like why is the news spending so much time because people die in car wrecks too. Well, most car wrecks ARE just accidents. This was a family outing for fun, and to be mowed down like an animal is beyond anything comprehensible. Too many American citizens are super violent towards each other. sigh
Thoughts and prayer are with this family who has suffered too much already.
I hope that this thread is one filled with wishes of healing and peace for this family. A few moments changed her whole family and so many others. I wish her healing and am sorry for her losses.
Really I just can't imagine!! When does it end for this poor young woman? I don't know how I could go on after such a tragic set of events, I hope she finds strength in what ever it is that can help her threw this, she's gonna need allot more than $$ when all this said and done... My thoughts go out to you and the others.
Amazing how some armed nut can destroy so many lives. I wish those families well.
This is by far the saddest story I've read since 9/11/2001. Absolutely no words to describe the sorrow I feel for this woman.
Yeah I don't think I can recall a sadder story. I want to give that poor girl a hug.
Agreed. So sad. Thoughts of healing and comfort for her and her family.
Would have anyone have an knowledge of if I could send in a check/money order to a Wells Fargo branch? The nearest to me is a 4 hour drive, although I'm seriously considering making that drive after reading this. Money won't bring back her losses, but she needs all the support she can get.
Again, deepest sympathies to her and everyone involved in the Aurora tragedy. We all need to come together for everyone affected in Aurora.
MJ1986, you are an inspiration. When a stranger will even consider such a long drive...it's a much needed reminder that kindness and humanity are alive and well.
I found nothing on Wells-Fargo's website; I'm going to call them tomorrow. I'm assuming they'll have an address.
Thank you for the warm fuzzies!
MJ1986 - go to the Wells Fargo website - www.wellsfargo.com/locator - and type in your zip code. It will list the closest branches to you.
Mail a check with a notation in the "memo" line: "Ashley Moser account" or something similar. Include a note stating the same (please deposit in the account for Ashley Moser), and ask for a receipt, so you know it got there. Nice of you to do this for this poor family.
condolences to the entire family for their losses. Very sad !
My heart breaks for this young woman and her family. To lose both of her babies at the hands of a mad man's random shooting spree....just unimaginable. Prayers
This is such sad news after losing so much and now to have lost this precious baby. Heartfelt condolences to all. Hopefully Ashley's body and broken heart will some how heal.
@Freedom4Everyone... I totally agree with you. Only 25 years old and she lost her dad two months ago, her 6 year old daughter in the shooting and now her unborn child to the same crazy-a$$ shooter. All that and trying to recover from her own serious injuries. I honestly don't know if I would have the strength to want to live or carry on. I hope that with the support of her family, she finds the courage to recover and heal physically, mentally/emotionally and spiritually. My sympathies to her and her family.
Has there been an update on her physical condition? Last I heard, she was paralyzed.
My deepest sympathies to this family for their tremendous losses.
Death number 13. Two dead children now for this poor gal. I hope she is one strong woman. She has a lot to deal with and she will ever never heal. If she does, she's one hell of a person. I know I wouldn't. The death of a 6 yr old is tough enough, let's add your unborn too. My gawd. And he has to go to trial? WHYYY?? Soo many things are unjust in the US. Stone the demented creep already!
I just read the headline, and went right to comments and not reading others'.
From Illinois, I am truly sorry for your loss of not one, but now two.
What makes people turn against another (in this case) might never be known, but GOD will only give you what you can stand, so he has a plan for you.
May you recover quickly, and know that your children are in good and safe hands now.
After reading this... I can't say what I would do to this perp, as I am in awe over what one person/animal can do to a family and community.
America shares your pain. May GOD and the angels comfort you in this time of sorrow.
What a horrible thing to say....god will only give you what you can handle. What a horrible being to believe in and not one ounce of comfort in those words.
mOuse- Who in the world are you to say those words offer no comfort? As someone who HAS lost a child to tragic circumstances, I heard those words frequently and they gave me both hope and strength to carry on. I have believed in God from a young age and losing my daughter had no negative impact on believing in Him. In fact, it made me look to Him more. You cannot dictate what will or will not help someone through their terrible times, so please stop trying.
This is horrible, I feel so terrible for this family. Idc what medical condition James Holmes has, he should spend the rest of his life in prison.
They should make a multi-hours-long video montage of all the victims in the form of photos and videos clips from birth to the point he killed them, ending with the youngest. They should then play this at him daily, for however many days they give him in prison.
Flip the switch on this bastard and show his the same consideration he showed his victims. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that feel the same way and would probably voluteer to flip the switch.
So much for the anti-death penalty people with this situation. I was /am somewhat one given DNA and exoneration's, but this "seems" to be an open and shut case, and outside THAT BOX.
How many in the theater with "red" hair brought guns there, as well as the same number booby trapping their residence that night? ONE !!!!
My fear is this case will go on and on, while other un-adjusted nuts begin to pattern his"Day's of Fame" in the media like other mass murderer's
Another Darwinism example, and too much chlorine in his gene pool, but now it's too late!
Just kind of in shock for this woman, and waiting for the other shoe to drop given the nut's out there.
This is what should be done to all these low life scum bag killers!Go back to using the electric chair,its the only punishment that gives PAIN! But instead of a high voltage,lower it so it hirts but wont kill.Then let each family member of the victims pull the lever. Don't put a hood on the scumbag's head,this way the family can see the pain in his face or her face!Also the scum can see the PLEASURE in the family's face as they pull the lever!! Let this go on untill every family member gets a turn,even if it takes a week or more!!Then they can have a lottery and the winner gets to pull the lever set at high voltage!!And if anyone of those A$$HOLES that are so concerned about the rights and feelings of killers protest,then they get to sit on the lap of the killer!!Rodney Dangerfield the GREAT comedian said,I don't get no respect,when I was a kid, my uncle's dieing wish was that I sit on his lap,he was getting the electric chair!! He was so FUNNY!!
Your a sick SOB railroad man and I like it.....as a professional electrician I'll volunteer to fly out an wire the chair. Maybe some type of variable frequency drive so we could ramp up the current slowly and we could vary the frequency to find the one with that inflicts maximum pain.
The CIA I'm sure already has the necessary design criteria in its file.
He deserves to suffer through torture of some sort, not an easy way out like execution.
Jim,it would be nice if you were contracted to rig all the electric chairs in the country! You would be a hero to a lot of people!! LOL
I understand your anger about this situation--I'm furious at James Holmes, too. However, I would like to take a step back, and invite you to think about capital punishment. Clearly the man is very sick--being able to plan such a "spectacular" crime in such great detail demonstrates that.
Capital punishment is largely about revenge, and the desire for revenge is one of the lowest human emotions — perhaps sometimes understandable, but it isn't really a rational response to a critical situation. To kill the person who has killed someone close to you is simply to continue the cycle of violence which ultimately destroys the avenger as well as the offender.
Capital punishment in and of itself is no deterrent to crime. It won't keep anyone else from killing because of the potential consequence. The death penalty is inherently immoral because governments should never take human life, no matter what the provocation. The Eighth Amendment to our Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. What could be more cruel than taking someones life?
In addition, the death penalty is clearly more expensive than a system handling similar cases with a lesser punishment. The extra trial, the additional attorneys and experts, the many, many appeals while the person is being held on death row all add up to a much greater expense than life in prison. Why should we spend any extra money on these people?
Killing anyone is abhorrent to me.
(Some points from multiple web sites.)
I only wish there was a way to change this and take away the immense grief this poor woman is forced to suffer. So, incredibly sorry. I hope she is surrounded by love and people who will help her walk through this time.
I am reminded of a horrific story in Merced, California where a woman's ex-husband killed her three children and himself while she was out for a morning jog. It took a very long time and, though she'll obviously never "get over" losing her amazing kids, she was able to eventually find love again and now has twin baby girls. I pray Ashley will find happiness again in her future.
This mother is apparently going to be paralyzed for life. They just dont know yet if she will be a quadrapelegic or not. And I know for several days after the shooting they hadnt told her that her daughter was dead. I am sure they must have told her by now but she is still struggling to live so maybe they havent. I cant begin to even wonder what her medical bills will be like on top of all of this. And to think the shooter really doesnt give a damn and is busy mounting a defence of insanity just makes me want to scream. May God bless this woman and family as she is going to really need Him now.
On the insanity defense, I'd say yeah right on that. The entire crime was meticulously planned. He was in his right mind when he planned that entire...affair.
I hope somehow, someway that this mother in some fashion is able to get past this. I don't think I can, at least not without a serious case of vigiltante Justice against this thing in humanoid shape. I refuse to call him an animal as it is too cruel to animals. I also won't dignify the label human on him because I'd be ashamed to even be of the same species. There is no hell hotter nor punishment fitting that I can personally do to this demon that would ever give a sense of equitable satisfactoin. Therefore I do hope that some higher power has a fitting punishment.
In some cases, I could see the insanity defense. Not many, but some. In this case, I wouldn't care. This man has cased so much pain to those families, and especially this family, that he should not be given even the remote chance to ever do anything like this again.
My sincerest sympathies to you and your family, Ashley.
You cannot eliminate the grief for this mother - that is not going to happen. That is life as we all know it. What you can do is prevent this from happening again and do it in such a way as to not have to abrogate the US Constitution. Eliminate all "gun free zones" across this country and repeal the The Gun-Free School Zones Act and implement the gun free zone liability act in every state. Gun free zones are in actuality "free fire zones" for deranged killers. Along with universal gun ownership, similar to what exists in Switzerland, you will start to see one of the more crime free countries in the world.
Guns make for a polite society.
PW, England is a gun free country, and they are also relatively crime free. NOT having guns also makes for a polite society.
I wonder if it would be legal to post 8 1/2 x 11 photo's of all the victims, with Veronica's being in the center, on the wall across from his cell for him to see each day! I'd even opt for some recorded background voices of the victims to cheer up Mr. Holmes; or keep him awake all night!
I feel for this woman. I just can't imagine. I hope she finds the stength to recover from this huge, horrific blow. I hate saying this, but when they told her her daughter had passed, her response was that she wanted to die. Now this. I hope when she is healthy again, she is watched closely. I would hate to think of her doing something to herself. It just means that animal wins. Im rambling, because it is just so much to take in. My deepest sympathies for this family.
I don't think I would want to go on either...
This is tragic beyond words. So much loss in such a short period of time and TWO lost children. I pray for her to have enough strength to carry on. I also think that she may be paralyzed because of her injuries. I know one of the doctors hinted at permanent injuries for some. I hope and pray that she receives whatever help she needs to get through this. So much suffering.....so sad.
I cannot even imagine living with such pain. I feel for her immensely.