Exactly. But not to worry, the veins in the foreheads of the juvenile left are going to pop.

See Richard Bromley below.

Thanks Tumbleweed, nice to start of with someone who actually appreciates the truth. Keep it up. Please.

Typical Thug/Punk, just like the rest. These type do not deserve a court hearing. Finf him, hang him, be done with him.

Exactly right Arizona...This is just more proof if guns were taken away from law abiding citizens then only the thugs and wacko's would have them,and the innocent would be at the mercy of this element. No gun control,....what is needed is thug and wacko control.

Hey Arizona, how do you know he is a convicted felon? The article doesn't say that. And what makes you think that he might not be allowed to have a gun if he's no a felon? How do you know he may not own it legally? Blacks do have a right a own a gun legally in this country you know, just like whites do. I'm not trying to condone what this guy is doing, but you shouldn't assume that every black person who owns a gun owns it illegally, and therefore, shouldn't have one. No one assumed that Holmes didn't own his guns illegally.

all for the right to own guns......but to a point....there is NO NEED for automatic weapons...to use just one recent example...Aurora theatre dude, bought his thru the mail...to easy...automatic weapons should not be accecable, at all to anyone.....I know what you are going to say...then only criminals would be able to get them on the black market....and this is true, but it would be just that much harder.....an honest person does not need an automatic weapon to PROTECT themself or there home....a single bullet from a 9mm to the forehead will do the trick.

Scottyface ..Automatic weapons are illegal to own and is a felony to possess without a special federal licence.

@Elmo

Oh, I get it. This guy is a typical thug, but James Holmes @ Aurora or the guy yester who shot four including a cop or the guy in Iowa who kidnapped those two little girls (OK, frankly, any white guy who goes all child molesty) were all isolated incidents.

So white crime = isolated incidents, and black crime = pathological behavior, I see. Hypocrite much?

Hey, everytime there's a mass or random shooting, or some missing white kid who ends up dead or molested its usually some random white guy's "isolated incidence" of violence (as his fellow white buddies here like to put it), and you guys make up the majority, so who in these cases are the "typical" mass-murdering "thugs" in these senarios again?

Sure looks to me as though that's EXACTLY what you are trying to do is "condone" what this guy did SIMPLY based on the fact that he is black and someone "assumed" something. You completely ignore the fact that this guy is shooting innocent victims! Only thing you see is the "racism" in someone's remarks! What a shame to live your entire life SEARCHING for anything little thing you can find which you can link "race" to! Never one word from you about the innocent "victims"...it's just all about "race." You are pathetic!

Honestly, guns are everywhere and felon or not you can obtain one. Bottomline, if he wanted to he could have commited this crime. After all he was on parole, so why would anyone defend his actions. Just for those looking for him, check out Arizona as it is becoming the number one place for criminals to run and hide! I am just saying...

Scottyface

a single bullet from a 9mm to the forehead will do the trick.

You have been watching way too much TV. Or spending too much time watching HOLLYWOOD movies.

i don't believe that many people want to ban guns from honest people. however, i don't think that honest people need to have the right to buy 1000 guns a year. what would be the purpose of buying 50,100,1000guns if you are an honest person like you or I? this guy got his hands on an illegal firearm b/c so many people can buy, then report stolen as many guns as they want. I'm not extreme. i just feel that there should be limits on how many guns can end up on the street. thus, in the hands of **sholes like this.

Could this possibly be another case of "Random" Black on White Violence? More details please..Who did this guy shoot? Blacks. Mexicans, Whites? Come on......You know the deal, when it is not reported, the victims must have been White....There will be no Hate Crime here people......No, No this was just "Random"..Now go about your business, carry on....

Holmes wasn't a convicted felon and was at one point an honest "law abiding citizen".

@ Mcrk, I'd say 1 out of 1,000 own on legally. @ Ciewywtb42mh6sps-23, you really need to do your homework. For instance, look at Mobile Al. crimes just this year, then get back on this. Bet we never hear from you again.

This sounds familiar in reverse- He HUNTED them down and shot them in cold blood. As always, it probably won't get as much attention as the Trayvon show did..

mcrk: You are defending him because of race. That's very racist of you.

Do your homework, before you make foolish statements. Yes, he is a convicted felon. His crimes involved GUNS.

Thank you Arizona, there's too many racists with "THEIR" opinions. He is a felon and he will probably die running and shooting.

Arizona Tumble weed...You ARE THE MAN!!

@mcrk --- You are correct to a point. Based upon my 26 years as a police officer I agree with you that not all black suspects illegally possess their guns, however, I would contend that 90% of the firearms used by black suspects have been reported stolen by the previous owner. The mere possession of a stolen firearm is a felony in its self. You need to get off your "racist" mentality and open your mind.

Take a look at his eyes. The white showing at the bottom is a sure sign of mental instability. (look it up)
No amount of race baiting or gun lobbying is going to change the fact that this man is dangerous and would kill no matter what weapon he had to use or what color his victim is.

Scottyface .there is NO NEED for automatic weapons...to use just one recent example...Aurora theatre dude

Hate to break it to you but a lot of the Aurora injuries and deaths were caused by a plan old 12 gauge shotgun. Second his "assault rifle" was not an automatic, in fact I haven't seen a story in quit a while that involved a Automatic weapon. That is the problem with libs is they either lack the knowledge about different types of weapons or intentionally lump all weapons together hoping to disarm law abiding citizens.

I am always amazed at how uneducated the american people are on guns. It perplexes me to no ends. If anything needs to be controlled it's the right to post comments on the internet.

1. Automatic weapons are illegal to posses under normal circumstances (i.e. outside of military and law enforcement). There are some grandfathered automatic weapons out there that are transferable under strict BATFW rules. Please reference the NFA for details. BTW an automatic weapon is a firearm that fires multiple projectiles with one pull of the trigger. These definitions are also available in the NFA.

2. Car accidents in the US kill many time more than guns in the US but the drivers license remains a document anyone who has a 60+ IQ can obtain. The states are handing 6000 lb subsonic bullets to anyone with $15 every day and it botheres noone but me?

3. The NRA guys will probably rip me for this but I beleive guns SHOULD be harder to aquire (yes even for law abiding citizens). Required backgroud checks. Required recuring gun safty and use courses that have passing objectives that I can not easily achive blindfolded. These morons shooting themselves or a family member because they do not know how to operate a firearm safely are just adding to the statistics against gun ownership.

4. The three US cities with the most strict gun controls have the highest murder rates. I don't see the data backing up your claims of less guns equals fewer deaths.

The lack of knowledge topped of with a little ignorance and race baiting tends to shine through with some.

Juarez Mexico, some of the strictest gun control in the world, second highest murder rate per capita in the world.

he looked a little Bushed...to me...

Contrarian001

Take a look at his eyes. The white showing at the bottom is a sure sign of mental instability. (look it up)

Oh, so that means that people such as Naveen Andrews (he played "Sayid Jarrah" on the TV show "LOST") and PRESIDENT JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY are/were also "mentally unstable"... Too bad for you that THEY have never gone around killing people.

No amount of race baiting or gun lobbying is going to change the fact that this man is dangerous and would kill no matter what weapon he had to use or what color his victim is.

Yes, he is dangerous -- just as dangerous as Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson, DOCTOR Theodore Kaczynski, Jared Loughner, and every other "crazy" who has ever killed anyone.

Oh, and I did look up that supposed "fact" of yours. Whites showing under the pupil/iris is not a sign of "mental instability" -- it is supposedly a sign of MENTAL STRESS. The supposed sign of mental instability is the white showing ABOVE the pupil/iris (as in ready to kill at the drop of a pin). You really need to stop drinking the kool-aid.

Arizona Tumbleweed;

Since you seem to have access to information that says this guy is a convicted felon -- information that is NOT provided in the article, nor in anything linked to in the article -- perhaps you should provide a direct link to that information.

And mcrk did NOT say that he condones what the guy did, nor was he defending what the guy has done because of his skin color. He simply said that it is WRONG to assume that just because the guy is "black" that he is automatically not allowed to have a gun. It goes back to that secret information you seem to have access to.

TStucker,

anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Muzzle loaders were what EVERYONE carried. They also carried a couple of knifes and a hatchet(small ax) to be able to fight hand to hand. The libtards do no seem to realize that guns are not needed to kill. If a crazy person wants to act out on their psychosis, a # 2 pencil will do just fine.

This argument reminds me of the news story in new Orleans while I lived there. A tourist was driving through the 9th ward and someone hit his car with a rock. He stepped out of his car with a .38 special and was shot down with AKs. Moral is, be sure to not take a muzzle loader to a AK fight.

First they say "Random Killings" that he was driving around just shooting "Random" people...Then they go on to explain that he was involved in an argument with his baby's momma or whatever then drove to her family's house and shot her family members....It can't be both,either he is shooting random people or he is shooting people he knows and has a motive for....Why did they say "Random" killings? Like he was just driving around shooting anyone and everyone?

Arizona Tumbleweed;

An update: I see in the original NBCMiami story that the guy has been CHARGED with a lot of felonies -- but it doesn't say he has ever been CONVICTED.

"Charged" is not at all the same as "convicted". If you have access to information proving that he is a convicted felon -- perhaps you should provide a direct link to it.

Oh, I know...Dumb arse cops...

sw philly

First they say "Random Killings" that he was driving around just shooting "Random" people...Then they go on to explain that he was involved in an argument with his baby's momma or whatever then drove to her family's house and shot her family members....It can't be both,either he is shooting random people or he is shooting people he knows and has a motive for....Why did they say "Random" killings? Like he was just driving around shooting anyone and everyone?

Because saying it's "random killing" makes it so much more sensational. It's a very old and common trick used by ALL news outlets, yes, even FAUX News.

Thanks Agnon...I did know the answer...I was just being a smartass..And they used the "IN" the police gave them with their statement so as not to look like Faux News

NC Vet

@mcrk --- You are correct to a point. Based upon my 26 years as a police officer I agree with you that not all black suspects illegally possess their guns, however, I would contend that 90% of the firearms used by black suspects have been reported stolen by the previous owner. The mere possession of a stolen firearm is a felony in its self. You need to get off your "racist" mentality and open your mind.

This brings up something that so many of those who are automatically condemning "blacks" (such as elmo-1940954 with his/her insistence that only "1 out of 1,000" legally own their guns) seemingly refuse to even acknowledge. How many guns do YOU own that you bought at a private sale, where there was no paperwork or background check required? Have YOU paid to have those guns checked out -- or have you just assumed that they were not stolen at some point before YOU laid down your money?

For myself, I own at least two rifles and one handgun that I purchased from a private citizen. Because they were purchased at gun shows, AND THERE WERE NO BACKGROUND CHECKS -- not even asked to show proof that I am legally allowed to purchase a handgun, I can only assume that they were not stolen.

agnon: You are joining forces with mcrk in trying to make my statement about race. That make both of you racists.

My statement had NOTHING to do with race. I said the man is a felon. You may deny this, but his parole officer won't.

larry-5534379

TStucker,

anyone with an ounce of common sense will know that Muzzle loaders were what EVERYONE carried. They also carried a couple of knifes and a hatchet(small ax) to be able to fight hand to hand. The libtards do no seem to realize that guns are not needed to kill. If a crazy person wants to act out on their psychosis, a # 2 pencil will do just fine.

Exactly. When someone wants to kill people, they will use whatever is available. A rock bashed into the skull kills just as easily as a bullet to the chest.

This argument reminds me of the news story in new Orleans while I lived there. A tourist was driving through the 9th ward and someone hit his car with a rock. He stepped out of his car with a .38 special and was shot down with AKs. Moral is, be sure to not take a muzzle loader to a AK fight.

Wrong. The moral is that unless you are absolutely sure that getting out of the car with a gun in your hand will keep you safe, you should stay in the car. The guy likely had the option of just driving away with a dent in his car and a bruised ego -- and instead he chose to do what the "bad guys" likely wanted him to do and was shot.

Arizona Tumbleweed;

There is NOTHING in either this article or the original one that says anything about him being a CONVICTED felon. Charged, yes -- but NOT CONVICTED. You have access to information that nobody else here has? Provide a direct link!

And just exactly how is pointing out that ASSUMING that because someone is "black" that they are not allowed to have a gun "race baiting" or even "racist" at all? Hell, not all WHITES are law-abiding, does that make me "racist", too?

hmmmmm......

Agnon---Their mommies taught them that "Blacks" were bad and never to bring one home....And mommy was always right and she is a saint...

sw philly

Agnon---Their mommies taught them that "Blacks" were bad and never to bring one home....And mommy was always right and she is a saint...

I know. Just like many of my own relatives were taught from birth that "Injuns" are all blood-thirsty scalp-hunters who would rather get drunk than work for a living. Too bad for those relatives of mine that THEY are descendants of "Injuns", too.

agnon: If you know how to copy/paste, please do so. Show us where I said ANYTHING about his race. You just keep trying to start a race fight. My referring to him as a felon, does not mean I was calling him black. Where is YOUR mind.

You took the statement from mcrk, (another racist), and ran with it.

To racist agnon: I don't care what color he is. The following was taken from "busted". These warrants were in effect BEFORE today's incident.

"

PROBATION WARRANT

VOP/CONCEALED FIREARM CARRY

CONCEALED FIREARM/CARRYING".

Nuclear bombs don't kill people............people kill people.

Why are we trying to stop people from having Nukes then?? I guess the logic of the gunners has a slight dilemma. Sure seems Mitt is ready to start killing people over nukes. Maybe we should see if he is mentally competent.

It is illegal to posess a centerfire rifle/gun by any convicted felon. You can look up anybody's background that is in the criminal database. Do some actual research people.

sw philly / Agnon

There is only one race the HUMAN RACE, and some of us go way beyond MSNBC for getting the facts of a story.

Also you don't need a gun to kill people just look at the guy who just killed his parents and kidnapped his sister.

indicated that a knife or cutting instrument was the weapon that killed the couple.

As to the legality of him owning a gun legally not at all

However, this is not Cash's first time around the block, his lengthy rap sheet lists more than a dozen felony charges including attempted murder

Scotty Face...what planet are you from? First of all, you CAN own automatic weapons as long as you are legal...and of course pay the government about $600 tax. Also, the weapons Holmes had were NOT automatic weapons. He did NOT buy them on the internet. And if you want to know why anyone would need SEMI AUTOMATIC rifles, ask the Korean shop owners in LA during the Rondey King riots who were the ONLY ones who did not loose their shops after coming out with a few AR-15's. Moron

Arizona Tumbleweed

agnon: If you know how to copy/paste, please do so. Show us where I said ANYTHING about his race. You just keep trying to start a race fight. My referring to him as a felon, does not mean I was calling him black. Where is YOUR mind.

You took the statement from mcrk, (another racist), and ran with it.

Please provide actual PROOF that pointing out an ASSUMPTION is "racist". If someone else were to imply that ALL or at least 90% of WHITE trailer-park residents are criminals (ala "My Name Is Earl") and YOU then pointed out that such claims are false assumptions -- then according to YOUR claim here, that would make YOU a racist as well.

Oh, and provide that DIRECT LINK to your information that NOBODY ELSE has access to. Simply naming something called "Busted" is NOT a direct link.

Robbob-1667446;

No shiite Sherlock. That's what I've been saying to my own relatives and others for YEARS.

And as I have pointed out to Tumbleweed (which apparently makes me "racist"): Being CHARGED with a crime is not at all the same as being CONVICTED of a crime. There is NOTHING in the article, which is taken DIRECTLY from the original NBCMiami article, that says he has ever been CONVICTED of any felony at all.

Damn, there are so many people who really NEED to learn the difference!

Nevermind

cctp

It is illegal to posess a centerfire rifle/gun by any convicted felon.

True.

You can look up anybody's background that is in the criminal database. Do some actual research people.

True, again -- but ONLY if you happen to have that throw-away extra money to spend. Or do you ASSUME that everyone actually is able to afford that $30-$80 per search fee? Any free info you can from those websites/services is only going to say that so-and-so was "arrested" -- NOT whether or not they have ever been CONVICTED.

This guy's mug shot doesn't make him look very intelligent; but then again what he did wasn't rocket science, either. He certainly makes a case for the concept of 'thin the herd'.

mcrk, if you had clicked the link "see original story" you would read that the guy has 12 FELONY convictions including attempted murder..

I stand corrected, charges-not convictions..

RobRob or whatever your name is....If you read my posts on my profile you will see that just yesterday and several other times I have used that " Human Race" term like you did....I am not Racist Sexist or any kind of "IST" I do not have hate or bias in my heart...If I do catch myself feeling that way(Nobody is free from sin) I take a moment to reflect and correct myself from feeling that way..And the only time I feel that way is in reference to intolerable people....I believe in equal rights for all...And a total right for all even prior felons to own guns,vote,speak freely,ingest or smoke whatever they want, I believe you should have true freedom to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone(And by hurt I don't mean Somebody's feelings and yes I believe you have the right to be a racist as long as you don't act upon your ignorant hate)

Oh and by the way so you guys and your center-fire law does that mean you can still own rim-fire weapons and muzzle loaders? And is that Federal law ?

Arizona tumbleweed----You mentioned that he was charged but never showed where he was convicted....You do know there is a difference right? Or is charged enough if he looks different than you ?

Robbob I am not the one who said anything about the source for his convictions... As a matter of fact somewhere on here I made the statement about this article not being the only source of info out there just as you did....So stop grouping and stereo-typing....Remember we are all part of the human race..

agnon: Why can't you treat this as a MAN killing his parents? Why do you "racists" always have to talk about color?

Redman say good point whitey. It never is if it's reversed. You know ol evil white racists people are the only ones who go around committing hate crimes.

Agnon,

for crying out loud, the police are handing out the booking photo (mug shot) from his arrest record along with the APB to have him picked up.

Outlaw guns and only Obama and the New Black Panthers will have them.

agnon, learn to read and "DO THE MATH".!!! Then try posting something remotely true and not racist.!!!

It is law abiding citizens who sell guns into the blackmarket, and whomever, wherever. Because its not regulated properly. And yes some guns get there by being stolen, but the majority are sold for profit by so called law-abiding citizens.

You are only law-abiding until you get caught. And thats if there is even a law.

Hmmmmmm..Ya think ?

@ Agnon Mema: Your comment that one would have to spend money to find out the criminal record of someone is only partially true. Most states have an online site that you can do a search through the county/city court system. My state has it and it doesn't cost anything. The information contained shows charges filed and shows where the case is at, whether charges have been downgraded, etc., as well as if a trial date has been set, if charges have been dismissed. That sort of thing. It is a great tool if one wants to do a bit of checking on a potential guy/girl to see if one should date that person, or run like hell!

Why would he have a parole officer assigned to him?

ibjon......It must have been a mistake. This guy looks like "the missing link"!!!!

Well they posted his picture because he's 18 years old and one year older than his half brother trayvon martin, same mom different dad. There is a strong resemblence.

I dont know. You catch that story yesterday about the crazy-azzed white guy who shot four including a cop? You still keeping up with that story about the child molester in Iowa who kidnapped those two cousins? Bet you forgot all about the Norweigan baby killer Anders Brevik already.

In fact, I bet there will be more inbred rednecks commenting in this thread on what they think is the increased criminality of black men than will ever read any news story that came out this weekend about white male drug abuse, alcohol abuse, arson, property theft and damage, spousal abuse, white collar crimes that tanks the global economy, etc. simply because white people have no ability to take the same amount of honest social criticism about their own criminality (which in all the cases I cited above whites are statistically majority offenders (see FBI Universal Crime Report)) that they impose upon others.

If you want to see "a lot more coverage and comments here if this was (sp) a white guy" then start policing white neighborhoods in numbers proportional to those in neighborhoods of color and see your crime wave rise. You want to really wage a war on drugs? Go to your typical white fraternity party on a Saturday night with a padddy wagon and a fresh pad of citations and watch your police quotas fill up overnight. You want to bust some big-time drug dealers? Cruise Wall Street and find out whose supplying the white elites whose teenage indiscretions are never held against there records for life like the average felons of color.

But, seriously, if you want to look through a comment thread full of statements about white criminality just post an honest accounting of all the white collar crooks who stole your kids' college funds in the global economic crisis and never got punnished for tanking the economy for years to come because "we" thought it was more important to bomb a few more Afghans two years back into the stone age.

Cultural framing is the reason why "Boardwalk Empire" and "The Sopranos" are multi-Emmy winners lauded by critics for their dramatic nuances about the American Dream, and yet shows like "The Wire" are dismissed as glorifying black criminality. Imagine if we looked at "Casino" "Goodfellas" or (heaven forbid) "The Godfather" in the same way we look at "Boyz in Da Hood" "Training Day" or "Colors".... the contrast would blow the average complacent white guy's mind out the back of his privileged head.

You need to research more and spend less time watching Boyz In Da Hood. Try researching Federal B.O.P. or the D.O.C. in your state. I think the populous speaks for itself, don't you?

I think all of you who keep making these smart-ass racial comments need to stop. It's getting old. No one reads your @!$%#, and if they manage to get through it, it just sounds like a bunch of bull@!$%# anyway.

If you spent all that hateful energy on doing something good for a change, the world around you would be a lot better.

What difference does it really make? This man, no matter what race/color is going around shooting inocent people, that's what the concern should be.

DOT....the media--NBC---and obama have turned it into this!!!

Chicago MOBpolitics...spin every crisis and divide the people!!

The constitution states that the peoples right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed. Period!!!!! What part of that can't YOU understand. You live in the freakin United States of America, A land of laws and rights upheld by the constitution. The forefathers did not mean that it was OK for the government to take any of your rights and that if they did then the 2nd amendment would provide us with the means with which to take them back. No amount of gun violence is ever going to change that, so get over it.

You may think that the forefathers were talking about a time that is long past, but you're so very wrong. The forefathers constantly warned us against complacency and urged us to be diligent in the maintenance of our freedoms. Tyranny and despotism is not a dead concept like the Latin language. It is a thriving facet of the human condition, and must always be diligently thwarted. To just give up our arms would take our ability to fight tyranny in our own country, and trust me, that wolf is slavering at the door and just waiting to pounce.

Once again the American left are showing their inability to grasp the true failing here. This is a societal problem at the most basic human level. The gun never killed anyone unless someone pulled the trigger (or perhaps dropped it and caused an accidental discharge, but that is so rare as to be a non consideration) CASE IN POINT: Switzerland is a country filled with guns, as a matter of fact they have one of the highest gun ratios in the world (possibly the highest) and quite possibly the lowest violent crime rate. Their gun crimes are virtually non existent. They even go so far as to issue a fully automatic military grade weapon to EVERY man 20 yrs. of age as it is mandatory to serve in the national MILITIA. Yes, they get to take them home and keep them in their house with their wives and children. (I'll bet you're thinking that there must be untold tragedies) Wrong. One of their most popular past times is to take the family to the local shooting range and get in some target practice. Believe it or not they are actually really nice and polite people too.

The basis for this thinking goes back to the 1200's when they fought for their independence from the Austrian empire. They held that every able bodied man should be required to carry a weapon and to train regularly with it so as to maintain a national militia (they do not have a regular army). This provided them with the means to deprive tyranny the chance to flourish in their country. As time pased and weapons advanced so did the weapon requirements until it included today's military firearms. All of this while speaking four languages.

Now how do you suppose that they do this without huge crime waves? It's called,,,Their society isn't broken. But ours is, and there in lies the problem. The gun isn't the problem, it is our society, and it is really f-cked up. Now until we do something to change that, we are screwed no matter what laws we pass to try to outlaw guns.

So please get a grip people and work to fix the problem.

Contrarian---Amen....First we need to get rid of the narcissistic attitude that we are the greatest country in the world..And then strive to be the greatest....We can't just say we are the greatest...We have to work to become that...

Bluepanther,

Are you feeling a little black-panther?

Contrarian001,

You are my hero! This is the best post to date I have read regarding the 2nd amendment and your comments on society are exactly correct and to the point. I could not have said it better. The World today is very much more complicated given all of the ideologies, and religious influences that were a threat back then, but did not have the world wide corruption we see today with major corporations trying to get their pound of flesh. A national militia was not the goal of the second amendment, the Right to Bear Arms provided for the idea that the individual man could determine their own destiny. The ACLU has repeatedly tried to remove those rights. The first amendment speaks about freedom of speech,but if a person says something that another did not agree with, then that person had the right to impress his point of view and each had the right to support their views with force. History shows that the Halls of Congress often had men using their walking canes on each other's heads. We have been continually attacked to a point the bullies can attack without fear of retribution because the laws support their right to insult you or threaten you. I feel that a verbal or physical threat "I am going to beat/hurt you", is a valid concern and should be taken seriously and my response would be physical in nature.

Lazarus

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.

All of you that put your faith in 1791 stay there and give up all the great accomplishments since then.. I'm cool I like living in the ever changing society. Brings me to the next point-- Um you think in 1791 that law would cover the guns y'all are owning now? I think anyone that needs a bunker of weapons is a paranoid freak and will eventually bring down our society with their paranoid disillusions..

CalicoWhispers;

The 2nd Amendment says "the right to possess and bear ARMS" -- not "muskets and other such flintlock muzzle-loading firearms".

By the way, when your gun-free home is invaded by some thug with a weapon that he/she knows how to use effectively (doesn't have to be a gun at all, it could be a stick or a kitchen knife), go ahead and call the cops. If you manage to call them right away, as soon as the thug breaks in, they'll show up about five minutes AFTER you've already been robbed -- and likely killed.

Larry"The Cable Guy"-----The cane incident in congress happened once....Not all of the time,or often like you stated....And the ACLU is more than likely to defend your right to bear arms not try to keep you from it,hence the name American Civil " LIBERTIES" union....Kinda like you people thinking "Liberals" want to take away freedom when what they stand for is LIBERTY hence the root word there, all of those words are related Liberal,Liberty etc.......This is an ongoing tactic of the right which is to project what they are actually doing to the other side...You see the right is on the side of the spectrum with Nazis...The only liberty the left fights against is the liberty to rip off society like the robber barons of the 1920's and the 2000's have done...The left leans all the way on one side to communism which doesn't work but idealy communism isn't a bad thing, you know collectively taking care of the whole...Stalin and the likes of him used it in nefarious ways and it will always be used that way by the powerful....But the democrats don't want that they just like a few programs like social security and Medicare....Which are good...And we would like Medicare for all because profits should not trump taking care of the health of our fellow humans...And we should all be able to eat if Mitt can have a car elevator and pay hardly any taxes and invest in foreign banks like the Patriot he is..

No Comment?

I got one comment. You kind of bounce around like a pin ball, don't ya?

larry-5534379;

Wow, you sure are inconsistent in your "logic".... According to what you say, everyone has the right to FORCE you to agree with whatever they want you to agree with. But then again, also according your "logic", nobody has the right to force anyone else to agree with anything at all.

Like i said: INCONSISTENT.

Um Calico,

Do you remember the Washington sniper? Surely you remember the black man driving an old chevy around with his 14 year old nephew in the trunk shooting innocent bystanders. The only way he was caught was a vigilant truckdriver that saw a car that fit a possible description at an Interstate Truckstop. These were not legal gun owners or were that doing anything but creating fear, terror and anarchy.

These peopel are the reasons we feel the need to be armed. If I had of been at the theatre in Denver, I am pretty sure the end results may have been different. If an armed citizen had seen the man getting out of his car, perhaps he would have not made it to the populated area. As to your reference to 1791,( I am impressed you would know a date), you can thank Barry"O for people feeling the need to stock pile as you say. You do not need paranoia if there is a threat that is clearly visible.

SW Philly cheesey steak,

And I do mean Cheesey. Your lame attempt to promote Communism is as thin as you interpretation of American history and Liberals. Anyone can label themselves as anything they want but a crap still smell like crap, thus must be crap. and that is what the libtards are throwing with each breath they take. I was using the cane incident as an example of how MANY times Congressmen resorted to violent confrontations. Aaron Burr Killed Thomas Jefferson in a duel which was a custom in those days as a means for gentlemen to solve problems. Andrew Jackson was a redneck called Old Hickory that was escorted by a group of armed citizens to New Orleans to whip the British for a second time. These courageous men met an army of professional soldiers with personal weapons. Do you know the story of the hickory stick? If you do, then you know it was not for show or a conversational piece.

The part of the American spirit I am talking about has been systematically attacked by the ACLU, because by definition it is a union, a socialist organization. As stated in the Communist Manifesto, there is no room for individual efforts. Marx was dead set against the liberties of America. But the liberties he was against were the ones our forefathers fought for, not the current interpretation of the Libtards. The list of our liberty is made clear by the documents that 13 colonies ratified to insure despots could not rule the American people. G. Washington said we had enough of rulers and kings.

Lazarus

Agnon,

I am concerned you do not understand my point. Since you were not clear about my Inconsistency, I will try to use a shotgun answer. Evil men must force a point in there is a sacrifice of something dear like personal rights and freedom. Therefore we must be armed to stand against force. If you are referring to my point od the ACLU denying people the right to take a stand, with force if needed, then a part of Americana is lost. I was raised in a time that some men tried to push their views onto others and if a disagreement occurred, the man had the option to walk away or if he felt strongly enough he would fight. Teddy Rosevelt said "walk softly and carry a big stick." This is exactly what he was referring to. He was raised as a having been sickley and considered weak. He became a man to be respected through deeds. The part of being an American I am referring to is personified in him.

America has been under a Pucification for many years in order to be liked by foreign nations. We are a culture of warriors, craftsmen and statesmen... We are not sheep though to be slaughtered or sheared. If that part exist, it exist because it arrived to our shores later, after the pioneers had done their work. Our soldiers in WW2 were Citizen Soldiers and lived the spirit I am referring to.

Please let me know if I am clear enough for you with specific points of discussion.

Larry----You really think Thomas Jefferson was killed in a duel? Who told you that Glenn Beck ? I was not trying to promote communism,I was pointing out that some of it works...Like Social Security and medicare which you probably collect considering your Alzheimer's revision of history....

And you didn't say there was one instance of caning on the floor, I did...You portrayed several instances....And you got the facts of that one wrong...

History shows that the halls of congress often had men using their walking canes on each other's heads.....Was what you typed...What history are you hearing ? I say hearing because I doubt you do much reading, just a lot of listening to Beck,O'Reilly and Limbaugh...One time is NOT often

larry, your entire post is nothing more than illogical parroting of what you likely have heard from the likes of Hannity, Beck and Limbaugh. I no longer have the time to refute your idiotic nonsense. Take your act on the road -- where it can be run over by a bus.

Larry---Teddy Rosevelt said "walk softly and carry a big stick" Here we go again....Larry said that not Teddy....Teddy said" Speak softly and carry a big stick,and you will go far" ..................You are the shining example for the study that shows FOX NEWS viewers are dumber about facts than people who watch no news at all...

By the way Teddy was one of the original progressives so it is kinda funny someone with backwards,backwoods thinking would use him in an argument...Kinda like Beck and the others always referring to Jefferson the founder of the left.....Which they have to do to find good quotes about FREEDOM because as I have stated above liberals are all about LIBERTY No matter what the Nazis on the right try to project on us with their Corporate Fascism and total all out media blitz of brainwashing that works on you and the likes of you because of your hate of the "OTHERS' and you don't even realize that to "THEM" you are the other....They just count on your vote because as of yet the Supreme Court hasn't allowed them to just buy your vote for straight up cash(Though they have made corporations people and cash speech) and I say yet because if by some twisted demonic miracle Romney is elected and packs the court that will happen mark my words...

Agnon and the rest, just for your information I have never suscribed to any of the afore mentioned men, You are a rude person that is so full of himself that I wonder if there is anything remaining as you take a dump. Agnon, I am a little confuesd by your post, there are times you support Guns, but the say thing i would expect a Libtard to make. Are you a troll?

SW when arguments can't be made small minded people will resort to the small things like grammar or finite points. But you are totally correct and I misprinted as it was Hamilton and Burr that Duelled. Thank you for pointing out my error, but as to the points of my post I stand by them. Your Communism is showing.

I was understanding that intelligent conversation was the order of the day with you gentlemen, but I see that Small minds can also be educated. It goes to show that ignorance is not always a a prerequisite for stupidity.

I believe in the things our country was built on and see it being systematically being dismantled in Washington as with the Mexican border. I am saddedned that intelligent men such as your self are against the United States.

SW, Have you ever heard of "paraphrase". If I felt the need for absolute facts I would prepare for a lecture. You libtards take the opportunity to redirect a point even though you understand the point I was making. The majority of the people who post here have less than a little knowledge or could care less about American history or the US Constitution. I would venture to say that most could not recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

Jefferson was under considerable scrutiny when he became president because of his sympathies towards blacks. I suppose the like of Beck and Rush could take that as being liberal. Just to clarify, I am neither conservative or A Libtard since I personally believe it is better to follow your conscious and mind, than to follow a party line or ideology. I do carry a stick and will freely use it on ignorance and oppression no matter which side of center it originates.

Lazarus

Larry---By the way it was Alexander Hamilton that was in a duel with Aaron Burr and Burr killed Hamilton....And it was an illegal duel since it was illegal even in those days though no charges were ever brought(Kinda like today where the rich and powerful get away with crimes,like Mittens evading taxes or lying on SEC forms and not only not being charged he is the GOP nominee for president) although it ruined his political career(It doesn't ruin Romney's because being a crook,liar and tax cheat is a prerequisite for the GOP)

Jefferson was a liberal---And if I correct somebody's grammar and spelling I do it politely...As I am not perfect....And your grammar and spelling is terrible but I haven't made a peep about it until you did( As mentioned I get your point anyway) and I made the Burr correction before I saw your last post....And when people totally revise history(Which you seem to think is no big deal) I do politely correct them....And once again I totally despise communism, but since we are a representative republic with open minds and not one strict political philosophy we do use some collective ideas which are good...We are not democratic nor are we communists or fascists but we blend all of this together with the good attributes of them all to be a great country(Until 2010 that is when a group of obstructionists were voted in who have no plan except stop anything from getting done to the detriment of us all, which is as anti-american as it gets...while they point fingers at others saying they are anti-american, which is that old GOP trick of projecting what they are doing on the opposition and saying they are the ones doing it....and it works on the FOX NEWS CULT) and we will be back on the path to greatness after this election where we get rid of enough of them....

And you say liberals are redirecting when they correct ignorance but you are willing to hit an ignorant person with a stick....hmmmmmmm...

OMG that's so true.

Of course, YOU bring that up because you want to make it known that, no matter what color YOU are, your comment will be racial.

If the victims were black it never would have made the news.

Themechanicsix

If the victims were black it never would have made the news.

Maybe, maybe not -- but the cops probably wouldn't be looking for him the way they are, either. Hell, they way they put out the bulletin with his photo so fast, you'd think he shot a cop, too.

One thing is for sure...... With him being black, the potential for these random killings/shootings to be labeled as a hate crime is totally out the window.

You mean you'll do what you can to prevent being a victim. If someone comes up from behind and whacks you on the head -- you're still a victim of a violent crime.

Agnon- One of the basic ideas of self defense is situational awareness, meaning you know what's going on around you at any given time. Now I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to sneak up behind me but if he gets his "whack" at me either he kills me or he becomes a statistic.

Don`t forget race baiter Al Sharpton.

Theyll blame it on Bush...it was the last white guys fault

Obama Half White

Why not blame Bush II? Just like every other self-centered politician, he did nothing to actually help people with mental problems.

So let's see YOUR photo, so we can judge how intelligent YOU are. News flash for ya: Albert Einstein had that same kind of vacuous look on his face.

Isn't that what they are doing for the poor depressed White guy in Colorado?

By "they" I assume you're talking about the media, right?

No that would be his defense team. I feel sorry for the poor ADA that actually answered their phone on that case. You wanna bet that when it broke and they knew they had the shooter in custody that all of the ADA's turned off their phones and left town if they could, this poor girl was just the slowest at it.

Just my opinion, does not mean it is right.

Dear Brenda, you sound like an OK person but your thoughts on this arent making sense. People have a right to protect themselves. Police response time for most large cities is between 15 and 30 minutes. If you outlaw guns the only ones that will have them will be the OUTLAWS.

Brenda..what an bunch of liberal foaming crap...spoken by someone who hasn't a clue of what they're talking about.....Even if there were no guns at all then the thugs and wacko's would use something else on the innocent. Why is this so hard for the liberal mentality to grasp ??

You must always remember-When seconds count-

The police are only minutes away.

Dear Getmadstaymad, thank you for your reply it's nice to see someone actually be polite to someone on here even if they don't completely agree with what the other person is saying. I understand what you are saying, I don't know or have al the answers either when it come to this issue. I just wish it weren't so easy for the people who intend to do harm to get guns.

And brasstacs, I just consider the mentality from which comments like yours comes from so my response to you will be no comment. None needed.

What could you possibly say....Except maybe.. you can gets your facts right,and start using some logic.

brenda: Anyone with a few brains can build a gun. Did you think they grew on trees? Men build them. Criminals will always have them.

Hell, I have a girl neighbor that build them. Ans she lives in the desert without electric.

When I was a kid we made "zip guns" out of car antennas and rubber bands.

Brenda...I agree somewhat...noo readon to have automatic weapons, but I have come to the conclusion that I may need tolearn to use a gun properly. I am planning to buy one and do just that.

It's those that do NOT learn to use a gun properly...do NOT learn how to take care of it and know all the laws surrounding it's use that cause the problems.

I also believe,like many here, that if somone wants to hurt you, if they don't have a gun, they wil find another way.

Not just guns -- think of the benefits if we had laws to make it difficult for criminals to get harmful or addictive drugs.

.

OK- let's say that our Left leaning friends now have complete control. They get their wish and ALL firearms are banned from public ownership.

How do they "fix" the 85 million Americans who have done no wrong except to own a firearm?

They send hired men with machine guns, body armor, incapacitating or fatal gas to break down doors in the middle of the night. They shoot anyone who resists. Those who survive are imprisoned for life.

All for the SOLE REASON that these people are different from the Left of Center "approved" behavior. Not because they are violent, or a danger, or even actively opposing the Left. The SOLE REASON they are assaulted is that they are politically different.

So we shoot up, kill or imprison 85 million people- because we "abhor gun violence".

YOU are the reason that all liberty loving people stand armed and prepared to resist. If we were not armed and you had control of the government, you would not hesitate to use deadly force to compel all others to obey you.

"Just what do you have planned for me that I must first be disarmed?"

Brenda...first i disagree with your thought on hand guns should be outlawed. second,i have a license to carry my pistol with me. today society has made America the way it is;too much left/right b.s laws to protect the criminals. the government (federal/state)needs to inforce the laws on the books instead "cutting" a deal with these criminals. now,as a example for you...you kill someone in a home invasion you can time in prison,i feel that "anyone" that takes a life should die!

now,in the north part of las Vegas the police are being lade off due to BUDGET CUTS,if the city would stop helping the illegals and welfare people whom sit on their ass and never look for work needs to be stopped. put money into emergencies responders in this country.someone said earlier in a post it would take the cops about a hour to get too them; that's about the time for north las vegas. its not there fault,its the liberals of this country and the whiners whom don't want legal law abiding citizens to perfect themselves.

the usa needs a srtong leader in the white house,not someone whom apoligizes every time something happens. i feel every legal citizen should own a gun for protection,and yes i own semi auto weapons...there is no law that says what gun i can not shoot a crimminal in my house with.

i served my country for over 20 plus years,and will not give up my weapons. i will defend and protect this country with any means possible,and i would like to think and beleive there is others in this country whom would stand with me. i may be old,but i still beleive in what the people whom died defending this country believed in.

SEMPER FI

DANNY P

USMC...RETIRED

The constitution states that the peoples right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed. Period!!!!! What part of that can't YOU understand. You live in the freakin United States of America, A land of laws and rights upheld by the constitution. The forefathers did not mean that it was OK for the government to take any of your rights and that if they did then the 2nd amendment would provide us with the means with which to take them back. No amount of gun violence is ever going to change that, so get over it.

You may think that the forefathers were talking about a time that is long past, but you're so very wrong. The forefathers constantly warned us against complacency and urged us to be diligent in the maintenance of our freedoms. Tyranny and despotism is not a dead concept like the Latin language. It is a thriving facet of the human condition, and must always be diligently thwarted. To just give up our arms would take our ability to fight tyranny in our own country, and trust me, that wolf is slavering at the door and just waiting to pounce.

Once again the American left are showing their inability to grasp the true failing here. This is a societal problem at the most basic human level. The gun never killed anyone unless someone pulled the trigger (or perhaps dropped it and caused an accidental discharge, but that is so rare as to be a non consideration) CASE IN POINT: Switzerland is a country filled with guns, as a matter of fact they have one of the highest gun ratios in the world (possibly the highest) and quite possibly the lowest violent crime rate. Their gun crimes are virtually non existent. They even go so far as to issue a fully automatic military grade weapon to EVERY man 20 yrs. of age as it is mandatory to serve in the national MILITIA. Yes, they get to take them home and keep them in their house with their wives and children. (I'll bet you're thinking that there must be untold tragedies) Wrong. One of their most popular past times is to take the family to the local shooting range and get in some target practice. Believe it or not they are actually really nice and polite people too.

The basis for this thinking goes back to the 1200's when they fought for their independence from the Austrian empire. They held that every able bodied man should be required to carry a weapon and to train regularly with it so as to maintain a national militia (they do not have a regular army). This provided them with the means to deprive tyranny the chance to flourish in their country. As time pased and weapons advanced so did the weapon requirements until it included today's military firearms. All of this while speaking four languages.

Now how do you suppose that they do this without huge crime waves? It's called,,,Their society isn't broken. But ours is, and there in lies the problem. The gun isn't the problem, it is our society, and it is really f-cked up. Now until we do something to change that, we are screwed no matter what laws we pass to try to outlaw guns.

So please get a grip people and work to fix the problem.

contrarian -

The constitution states that the peoples right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed. You may think that the forefathers were talking about a time that is long past, but you're so very wrong. The forefathers constantly warned us against complacency and urged us to be diligent in the maintenance of our freedoms

can you say "patriot act" without choking???

Brenda,

Oops, Your libtard is showing. did you happen to catch the video of the older gentleman in Miami this week as he shot two hooded street thugs full of holes as they were trying to rob an Internet cafe? One little thug carried a ball bat to feel manly, the other had a handgun to make his scrotum complete. There were probably some illegal drugs and skittles involved as well. I think you probably fit the scenario that another poster pointed out that the people who are afraid cannot legally get a gun and are jealous or afraid they cannot qualify for the 2nd amendment protection because of their historical criminal records. Have you ever been busted?

Lazarus

The only ones who need guns to make them feel like a "man" are thug douchebags like this guy. I don't care what race they are. Thug douchebags all.

Brenda, if I didn't have my guns, I would still have my swords and knives. If I didn't have my swords and knives, I would still have my saws and axes. If i didn't have my saws and axes, I would still have my kitchen knives. If I didn't have those -- I would still be able to kill people with my car.

It is the act of KILLING that makes emotionally immature boys feel like "men" -- not the tool used to do the killing. By the way, how about all the WOMEN who use guns to kill, are they also trying to feel like a "man"?

Arizona Tumbleweed

brenda: Anyone with a few brains can build a gun. Did you think they grew on trees? Men build them. Criminals will always have them.

Hell, I have a girl neighbor that build them. Ans she lives in the desert without electric.

Hmmm.... "Men" build guns -- not MALES or BOYS. You have a "girl" neighbor -- not a FEMALE or WOMAN neighbor. Hey Tumbleweed, sexist much?

Brenda I am sorry that most don't seem to really want to educate you on their thoughts about guns, but seem to be enjoying being as nasty as any anonymous thread will allow them to be.

Now, banning guns is not the answer, it really isn't. People have guns for various reasons, some like to hunt, some like to go target shooting and for the most part it is for protection. There is nothing wrong with owning guns for that purpose. The problem comes in when people are not RESPONSIBLE with their guns, and when you have a black market for guns that is thriving better than wall street. That is where the majority of the illegal stolen guns come from.

Calling the police when someone is either after you or is breaking into your home is a good thing, but you might want to have a Plan A and that is an equalizer, because if they see that you can fight back they will more than likely flee. I do not know what the answer to all of the criminals and crazies getting their hands on firearms is, but I won't denigrate you for your views. I'll just say godspeed and good luck.

Independent Liberal gun owner.

Contrarian001,

Excellent post hit the nail right on the head. Our Society is most definently broken. Until will get people in leadership roles that have common sence I'am afraid its not going to change anytime soon.

Why do all of you keep projecting this idea that liberals are against the second amendment ? I am as liberal as can be and believe even felons should have guns since the bill of rights says what it says....And by the way Liberals stand for liberty....Conservatives stand for keeping things the way they are...And right now there are way too many gun laws on the books(And by too many I mean any at all since the constitution trumps there should not be any laws keeping anyone from their right to bear arms that shall not be infringed and I think many any laws pertaining to guns seems a lot like infringing that right to me) and conservatives want to conserve them...And they like those laws and the threat of more because the real leaders of the GOP are uber-rich stock holders of Remington and they just love the dividends they have been paid since the fear was created that Obama would not allow them to purchase them and he was gonna put whitey in FEMA camps as a pay back for slavery...

agnon: First you call me a racist. When that didn't work, you tried sexist. I don't dislike ladies, except you. But then you aren't a lady, eh?

That may be because it just got reported...AND the fact that they are still looking for him.

Perhaps you just want the gory details?

How about when YOU become a "mental case" -- and "need to be nuked"?

How about when YOU become a "mental case" -- and "need to be put down"?

@Agnon Mema.......what a stupid statement you made!! These animals should not be let loose out in society!! You clearly have no common sense!! You are also a mental case!! There is no room for you here!!

They are to busy making money in Aurora, Co. off dead people.

jessie baby sitting his drug addict kid?

Last I heard of Al he was in the midst of the Michael Jackson estate dispute.

Lets boycott the sun!The suns rays give people skin cancer and thousands die from it every year!!!And automobiles too!Any one can say anything can kill people directly or indirectly, and these anti-gun activists just expose how many people out there are so STUPID!Its amazing how many people live in a bubble.

Mexico baned guns how is that working out

Just as Holder how the Mexican Ban is going?

that's right robert, guns don't kill people bullets kill people...

That's right, ltl.rascal -- bullets just magically throw themselves at and kill people. Same as knives just magically go flying off the counter to stab someone clear across the room or in another building entirely.

Oh, and just like SPOONS make people fat.

@Agnon Mema....stop, we're all getting misty! Something is wrong with you! Stop trolling us!!

I love this comment. Nothing more to say.

When trouble happens the cops are only a donut and a 1/2 hour away!!

If someone was breaking down my door in the middle of the night, I'd rather grab a gun than the phone.

If 911 makes you feel safe, it is all yours!!!!!

I thought mega-super-rich people who own businesses actually create jobs so nobody will ever be unemployed.

Whats with the constant liberal bashing !! I'm a liberal and I own handguns ! I also believe in the right to bear arms , (short sleeve shirts are all I wear ) !! I just get sick of these @!$%#s always shouting liberals did thisand liberals did that !! I've met more idiot conservatives than stupid liberals, just please stop using liberal as some sort of label on stupid...the right wingers have had that locked up for years now !!!

The truth hurts. You say you are a liberal but not the same liberal that is trying to take our guns or put criminals back on the street. If you are part of an organization that does these things you cant hide behind the fact that you personally weren't the exact one doing all the harm. Save the name calling for the newcomers. As long as you align yourself with Liberals then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Guns are the ONLY tools you have to protect yourself, Getmadstaymad? Hell, I have swords, knives, clubs, saws, whips, chains, chairs, lamps, glass bottles... Oh, and certain EXTREMELY painful, if you should happen to try to climb over/through them, plants growing under my windows.

If you have to rely on a gun to protect yourself in ALL situations, maybe you should move to where you will be safer.

It's from the Carl Rove playbook and well after all rush says it all the time so it must be true. Gotta give the rushdies credit, they are nothing if not loyal to the head drug addict.

YEP.

Also, just around the corner, "White America" is going to get sick and tired of the black race killing, raping, stealing....etc.

It's just around the corner!!!

kevin..Klan meeting tonight??

kevin,

You must be a liberal hack doing the race baiting. Seen it many times and it's easy to root out.

GFY!

kevin-1879933;

More like the other way around. But you just keep thinking that you're oh-so-superior.

p.s., the "Aryan Race" came from the Hindu Kush -- not the Caucasus.

Actually, it's because mental health is NOT taken seriously. Reagan closed most of those when he was in office...sad that many people who were in a facility were released. Can you imagine if you were getting help (not that some places did the job anyway), and they told you to get out?

People who are the closest to someone in need will sometimes (I believe most of the time) ignore warning signs...too embarrassed to admit their loved one needs help.

Was trayvon martain one of them, yes.

Florida also has its share of white racist preachers. What's your REAL point?

freedom-supporter;

Please provide actual documention, PROVABLE IN ANY COURT OF LAW, that Trayvon Martin really was guilty of committing any crime that night. Oh, right, he's guilty just because he was "black" and wearing a hoodie....

Again, there goes all of the generalizations. You say that this is the norm for blacks. So all blacks committ crimes? It never ceases to amaze me the amount of racist comments that are posted when the perpetrator is black but when the perpetrator is white there are no racist comments or sweeping generalizations about all white males. Why is that? Why aren't all white men generalized because of the acts of a few? If you take all of the cases of mass shootings/killings, domestic terrorist acts, child abductions/kidnappings, cases of child molestors,and child porn traffickers I'm willing to bet that the majority of these acts are done by white males. Therefore, would it be appropriate to generalize all white males? Also, how many of you guys are upside down on your homes or know someone who has lost their home, or has lost thousands of dollars in their 401K? Who do you think is robbing the working class Americans? But it's o.k. for them to rob you because they are wearing expensive suits instead of a hoodie. To make matter worse, they were then bailed out with tax payers money. Isn't that welfare? Again, since they wear expensive suits it is ok to accept public assistance. The hypocracy is astounding.

Good posting, ndfan! You just angered more of the Bachmann-'baggernuts.

If you're white, they'll be calling you a traitor, or worse.

But... don't tell 'em...! Let their brain-depleted, 'baggernutty heads explode. I'm "laffing" at 'em.

Hey NDFAN......You're not from around here are you? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha. If you're asking where are the racist comments on here, when a white guy does this type thing. You need to log on here more than once a year! Ha ha Ha!! I'll bet you can paint an entire house with one stroke of that brush!

Children...ALL races have their share of bad people.

kevin is just a racist...so quit feeding him.

Kevin do all of us a favor and eat a bullet !

Just check the Jail..Tell me what race has more of them in there? haha

paragus...perhaps that is because there are more blacks than whites in that area, therefore, more in jail? Doesn't necessarily mean what you are implying.

Really? Then what I'm I doing wrong? I graduated from college, I live in the upper middle class area of South Orange County, Ca, I have never had anything more escalated than a speeding ticket from 2001. I have no kids & have been married once to the same woman for 12 years.

I must have missed that line "typical for black" people line when we were being born?

Your comment is idiotic at best & driven mostly by ignorance, fear & you've probably never even bumped into more than 5 real people of color in your whole life. Your assumptions & comment is based 99% from TV I bet!

Paragus..... use your computer for more than watching porn. Research the discrepancy in sentencing between blacks and whites. There has been lots of research and statistics to show that blacks are sentenced harsher than whites for the same crime and criminal record. A white soccer mom caught with perscription drugs or meth will most likely be sentenced to a drug program than a black women caught with the same drug. Just like a black male is more likely to be harrassed by the police than a white male. Two months ago I was driving in my car (Mercedes) dressed in a suit and was pulled over at 2pm because my license plate light was suppposedly out. The first thing the cop asked was if I had any guns or drugs on me and if I was on parole. Not the common question asking for my drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. When I asked the officer how could he tell that my light was out in the middle of the afternoon, I was told to sit on the curb while he checked my car. Of course he didn't find anything and then he told me I could leave. I am a law abiding citizen that makes more a year than the cop that pulled me over.Why is it that the sentencing is harsher for possession of the same amount of crack cocaine than powder cocaine. Who is more likely to be in possession of crack? This does not excuse blacks for committing crimes but it does shed light to your statement.

It is stupid to judge a person by their color. I am white but have had many black friends over the years. One in particular is like a best friend, and I do charish a good friendship.

It is a shame to give up something as good as a great friendship because you can not see beyond color. Never give up an opportunity to make a friend, if you do, it is your loss.

Guess you never heard of Al Capone or Frank Nitti, kevin-1879933.

How about the fine, upstanding folks found on this website: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/ None of them seem to "look like the picture perfect fugitive".

No doubt about the FACT, obama is a jerk and IDIOT. Smart IDIOT. ALL crooks are cunning and barry is that. Not much of a person but he is like a SNAKE. We needed barry like we needed the plague. He is EVIL and that's a FACT. Concerned AMERICAN, Larry VELASCO

Hey, Larry... if this article was about the boogers stuffed in your nasty nose, you'd still mention Obama's name. Wouldn't ya?

You welfare-receiving, goober-inbreds really tickle me. NOT!

Larry Velasco,

Let's hope the little MUSLIM PUNK and LIAR, barry soetoro hussein, or barrack obama NEVER has a son. It is bad enough that his daughters will give birth at some time. I have nothing bad to think or say about either of his daughters, they had no choice. Michelle and barry are a joke at best. No PREJUDICE meant. I am a hispanic peson and have no prejudice, only horrible feelings about your president. He is EVIL and not a good human being. All will find that out. If he is re-elected, there will be a REVOLUTION in OUR country. WE the PEOPLE will have no choice, if WE want to survive and keep this country GOOD. Barry is a BAD person. His wife, the Backhoe Jaw Queen, is a racist and not for the AMERICAN people. Concerned AMERICAN and Hispanic AGAINST EVERYTHING barry the PUNK, stands for and is. Larry VELASCO

So tell me larry, what has this president done that's so terrible for you to disrespect him and his wife to this degree? Was it the fair pay for women or the ending of D.A.D.T. was it the illegal students he refuses to deport or the health care your sick child can no longer be denied or the donut hole being filled in for senior prescriptions or the preventative medical care that seniors get free or the work-first program for returning vets or the expansion of gun rights that now allow people to wear and bring guns into national parks or the student loan interest reduction and extension.

Is this why you call the President of the United States a punk? You don't like him because he's black or are you an illegal pissed off from chewing too many chili-peppers? You have given no credible reason except your own prejudice for slamming the President. Give us facts, amigo, facts! Tell us please or can you?

By the way, PB (pepper-belly) what do you think the republicans are going to do to you latinos, chicanos and hispanics if they gain control of congress? You might be hispanic, but you certainly are not American. Only red-necks, bigots and birthers talk the way you do............@!$%#.

Obama is a hunk of @!$%#.Plain and simple.he hates the USA and if you can't see that you voted for him.

What kind of a nut lives in the desert with no electricity? LOL!

The reason the little MUSLIM PUNK and LIAR criticises OUR country is, BECAUSE, it's not his country. He doesn't like OUR country. It's time WE THE PEOPLE let him know, the "JIG" is up. Vote the little BASTARD out in November. He is EVIL. If I was a Congressman and could get close enough to him, I would beat his PUNK ass. I GUARATEE IT. Remember, I said IF. Boy, how I wish it would happen.

Concerned hispanicAMERICAN, Larry Velasco

Duly noted and reported Larry. You can let us know how the interview with Secret Service goes.

At least Obama owns up to the FACT that the U.S. is not nearly as perfect as the majority of you "patriots" think it is. And that's what you buffoons really cannot handle.

Murder and murderers have no borders! They come from every walk of life, race, gender and religion. There is not one race immune to such violence or the acts of violence. Susan Smith, Ted Bundy, Giggling Granny, Wayne Williams, John Wayne Gacy, Aileen Wuornos, Scott Peterson and the various school and work shootings. All different in one way or another... Except this: They are all murderers!!!!

Larry Velasco -----------Did the Secret Service rendition your dumb arse to a black site yet to discuss your threats to our President ? I hope they did because I don't want some nut like you to do something to the greatest president in my lifetime....He Is in the top five of all time............

sorry, but some still seem to be pissed that he won. Better get used it, 'cause he's going to win again.