Childhood abuse killed 36-year-old Texas woman, police say

AUSTIN, Texas -- Linda Gatica survived head injuries caused by child abuse when she was a baby, but more than three decades later they killed her in what Texas police are now calling a murder.

Yet investigators said on Thursday they aren't hunting for a suspect in the murder of Gatica, who was 36 when she died in May at an Austin care facility for people with mental disabilities.


That's because they believe the killer to be Gatica's long-dead grandmother, Martha Gatica, who abused her when she was four months old.

"Investigators learned that Linda was brought to a hospital by her mother in 1976 with head injuries that appeared suspicious," Austin police said in a statement.

Police weren't notified at the time, but Child Protective Services investigated and baby Linda was removed from her family and placed in foster care, the statement said.

'Out of the norm'
Retracing the CPS' probe, police found that the Linda Gatica's mother, Mary Jane Gatica, who was 20 at the time, had given a caseworkers differing accounts of how her daughter may have been hurt, including that she may have fallen off the bed or slipped on a toy, Austin's statesman.com reported.

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Mary Jane Gatica and her three children lived with her mother at the time, the newspaper reported. 

After her death decades later, authorities concluded that the injuries suffered when she was a baby ultimately killed Linda Gatica. Further details on the injuries were not available. Police detectives decided to clear the case since the person who abused Gatica -- her grandmother -- is no longer alive.

"It's out of the norm," Austin Police Corporal Anthony Hipolito said of the case.

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Grandma who did it is dead..but her mother who knew it about it and tried to hide the real facts is still alive..so if they investigated it why not charge the mother with a crime. She fell out of bed or slipped on a toy..if you don't know what really happen..why say anything then..what's to hide?

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#1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:17 AM EDT

After 35.75 years, how can they blame it on that? I mean, it's possible that she may have had head injuries while growing up as in, falling off her bicycle or banging her head during gym class in school etc...

I have a hard time accepting that she died 36 yrs after hitting her head at 4 mos. old. There has to be other contributing factors.

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#1.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:41 AM EDT

I agree with you mike277, there should have been more of an investigation and if conflicting stories where being told someone should have been held accountable. I'd like to know what has happened to the other children and if Texas Child Protection stepped in to make sure they were not being abused also? This story leaves a lot of unanswered questions as most of the news does these days. It's like a game to see how long they can drag us along.

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#1.2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:51 AM EDT

This is why there should be no statute of limitations on child abuse. It may take decades of adulthood before a person is able to come forward with allegations of childhood abuse against a family member, but the judicial system shouldn't enable child abusers by telling them that if they get away with it long enough, they're home free.

And yes, parents and other relatives who know and do not report should be legally liable. How many mothers let their scum boyfriends and new husbands beat, rape, torture, and often murder their children? Those women should be accessories.

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

patter: Let's not forget American women kill more of their own children than any other mothers in the industrialized world.

Article maternal murder

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42634832/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

Katty Kay-Morning Joe

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/most-children-who-die-from-abuse...

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#1.4 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

A four month old slipping on a toy?? Your in heaven now. RIP

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

Abuse kills. What is wrong with huMANs? No other animal behaves in such a destructive and unnatural way. Isn't it time to do something different? Perhaps it's time for the final gleaning, most of the crop is rotten......

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

I think she had brain damage from that day on, notice she was in a care facility. She probably never had the chance to ride a bicycle to damage her brain further, so yeah, it was from that incident and at least they got her away from them. Back then the attitude was a little different about child abuse.

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#1.7 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

NC open heart, animals kill baby animals all the time. It may seem barbaric, but it's not "unnatural". I agree that it's disturbing to see people act in such a destructive manner, but hyperbole and hand-wringing isn't going to help.

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#1.8 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

Okay everybody. Since this story is extremely lacking in details, I will give more information that I found from the article in Austin:

1. Law enforcement learned of this case from the medical examiner's office after the autopsy was performed. A care manager at the facility said they were aware shaken baby syndrome could have been what Linda suffered from, but never knew that the police had no knowledge of it.

2. Linda was released to CPS custody when she was discharged from the hospital, after their investigation. She had suspicious blunt force trauma injuries that allowed them to remove her from the home, and her mother and siblings had lived with her grandmother at the time.

3. Linda's mother did not even mention anything about her mother until about a month ago, when police visited her home during their investigation. She offered up other possibilities to them first (just as she did when she took the baby to the hospital), and then finally broke down and admitted that she saw her mother shake Linda. She also said that she had been a victim of abuse from her mother when she was a child, but never thought about reporting any of the abuse because things were just not done that way in those days.

4. It's true that child abuse wasn't always reported back then, but CPS now automatically sends a copy of every case to law enforcement, which started in 1989, so cases like this don't happen anymore as they used to.

So. All of a sudden the story makes a lot more sense, but what I'm still wondering is what these brain injuries are SPECIFICALLY that ultimately killed this woman 36 years after the fact. We are now aware of shaken baby and blunt force trauma, but how is it that it became her demise decades later?

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#1.9 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

Thank you COmommy for the information! Makes more sense now.

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#1.10 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

How does a 4 month old, WHO CAN'T EVEN WALK YET, slip on a toy? That story alone should have raised red flags!

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#1.11 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

So sad. In response to some questions as to how can the abuse suffered as a four month old, ultimately kill her at thirty-six? As someone else already said she died in an institution. This implies that the injuries suffered as an infant, left her unable to function in society, let alone ride a bike!!! I am an MA and work in an institution. People with brain injuries due to car accidents,drug abuse, CVA's etc... can not even use a bathroom, feed themselves, or communicate. They have seizures often, need feeding tubes(the brain is too damaged for them to swallow) and the ones who can speak??? The ones who are less damaged and can talk, make absolutely no sense. The brain injured patient will say nonsense jibberish to you, and they have no idea that you can not understand them.

It makes complete sense that the brain injury killed her. She just suffered for 36 years. Beyond sad.

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#1.12 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

Because, while murder has no statute of limitations, failure to report, if it was even a crime in Texas back then, would be subject to a statute of limitations.

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#1.13 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

The "mother" had 3 children by the ripe age of 20?!!! That makes a great case for contraception. Responsible parenting at its best!

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#1.14 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

yah, guitcity, When animals kill their little ones they kill them quickly and for a purpose, they don't abuse them for YEARS.....Duh! But thanks for again showing that the problem with huMANs is that they don't know how to think or love.....

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#1.15 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

Say what? "Slipped on a toy" at 4 months old? They couldn't tell that was bogus? What infant is there who is walking around at 4 months old? I agree with cookykamp.

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#1.16 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

And thank you, NC open heart, for showing that you have nothing more to offer than hand-wringing and hyperbole. Yes, people abuse their children and other adults. Yes, I think it is horrific. And all normal, feeling people agree. But, again, just shouting "the crop is rotten" isn't a solution, and it isn't even helpful.

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#1.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:55 AM EDT
Reply

Appearently it is still an open case and needs some form of action to close it.

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Reply#2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:24 AM EDT

Put it into the "Cold Case, Cold Suspect" files.

    #2.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:56 AM EDT

    I'm not sure if this was updated after your post, but the end of the article reads:

    Police detectives decided to clear the case since the person who abused Gatica -- her grandmother -- is no longer alive.

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    #2.2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

    This is Texas. They should dig up the dead grandmother, place it on an electric chair and shock it. This ought to satisfy the Texan principle of executing all murderers.

      #2.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:19 PM EDT
      Reply

      Yeah, but murder though? 36 years later?

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      Reply#3 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

      There's no statute of limitation on murder.

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      #3.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

      No there is no statute but that generally comes into plaay when their is a murder and they dont find the suspect for however long or many years. But to say head injuries at 4 mo old and at 36 she died of them seems awfully odd. This woman never had problems throughout the rest of her life that she went to a doctor for where they found indication of problems. I have a hard time believing injuries as a 4 mo old, that never emerged before, killed her. I fell and got a Concussion when I was 8 in Gym Class. I am 33 now. Do I need to worry that I may die from those injuries in a few more years? Seems like an awful stretch unless she was diagnosed with something stemming from that which the article didnt state. But thats a long time for that head injury to do something. I dont buy that with the details given. Sure she was abused. But not saying thats what killed her over 3 and a half decades later suddenly doesnt pass the eye test

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      #3.2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

      And mom was 20 at the time with a 4 month old and 3 total children? Seems like a great environment to begin with

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      #3.3 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

      What people seem to be neglecting to notice is that she passed away in a care facility. Clearly, her head trauma as an infant, caused permanent brain damage, which then caused a premature death. Thus the "murder". "Shaken Baby Syndrome", the most common form of infant abuse and very likely what they suspect her of, will cause brain hemorrhaging, soft tissue damage (that cannot be cause by normal accidents) brain swelling etc.... The most frequent neurological impairments from those are learning disabilities, seizure disorders, hydrocephalus, cerebral palsy etc…. So, if someone harmed an infant, causing them to have brain damage, which then caused them a premature death, I'd say "murder" is exactly the word they should use.

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      #3.4 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

      Deezy92-5352637

      You make some excellent points, but please tell me, exactly how one determines "premature death". Do people come with an expiration date stamped somewhere on them at birth?

      My mom died when she was 84.... I thought that was premature.

      My friends father died at 46.... I thought that was premature.

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      #3.5 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

      XDm9mm, are you really arguing that 36 isn't premature? And semantics aside, I'm not sure that it matters how old the person is when they die (or how premature that death might be), if their cause of death is directly attributable to an injury inflicted by another person, no matter how distant in the past, the person who caused the injury can be charged with murder.

      I seem to recall a case where a nurse was using dirty needles on patients and some of them caught hepatitis. I can't recall if anyone died from it, but if in thirty years an eighty year old former patient dies from complications of hepatitis, the nurse who caused the infection could be charged with murder.

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      #3.6 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

      This seems worse than murder to me--a life of brain damage in a facility. One of my child's classmates is blind because she was shaken as a baby (she has new parents now).

      • 10 votes
      #3.7 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

      Twisted - how did you read this and think that the woman didn't have problems the rest of her life? She was in the care of the state in a facility her entire life as a result of neurological damage from abuse at 4mos old. She was taken away based on the physical evidence of blunt force trauma. Never released from care, so clearly not self sufficient. Her entire life was a result of the abuse when she was an infant.

      I'd go ahead and say that your statement "This woman never had problems throughout the rest of her life that she went to a doctor for where they found indication of problems" is entirely inaccurate.

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      #3.8 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

      A child of four months is easily hurt. Since the bones are not osssified, the brain is especially suceptible to damage. Yes. It is entirely possible that the head trauma caused brain damage. It is also entirely plausable that this early trauma could be largely responsible for her early death. Posters seem to be fixated on the number of years that transpired since the initial abuse and I am here as a professional to tell you that once certain damage is done, it is done and can not be reversed. Other systems do not develop properly and the entire system is compromised. The brain does not operate independently from the rest of the body. It actually enables the rest of the body to function. Damage to this organ has far reaching devastating and in many cases insurmountable concequences.

      To me, that is tanamount to murder since it sets in motion a series of events that handicap the victim. Nobody has the right to commit these acts...The mother should been held responsible. One can only hope the grandmother is getting what she deserves in the afterlife.

        #3.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

        This is not directed at you Meg, but Guitkitty a few posts above you. First there are different kinds of murder, was it premeditated, intented, was it from neglect, should a normal person have known that their actions could cause harm. So your nurse, being a nurse, and knowing that a dirty needle could cause harm, was it an intentional act......Your post doesn't make any sense because you have to be logical and consider all factors involved. Haven't you lived long enough to realize that nothing in life is totally black or white. Your biggest fallacy is you have no idea how that girls life was from 4 months to 37 years. Was she a vegetable, in a vegetative state your organs and muscles atrophies. Hey 9mm nice try at being cute, but you could consider any age to young to die.

          #3.10 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:36 PM EDT
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          how can a 4 month old slip on a toy? I agree that the mother who knew it was happening should be help accountable. Too much stuff going on protecting killer family members because it is thought that there should be loyalty towards family. Well her daughter was family as well, that is where her loyalty should have been. People need to get their head out of their butts and see family members such as this grandmother and others who kill who often give clues to their intentions but keep quiet in favor of the family relationship. Remember when you do this you are an accomplice to murder if you had information and didn't protect the public or other family members by keeping quiet.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#4 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:41 AM EDT

          It sounds like the abuse caused life long problems with this poor woman. Child abuse has ramifications that just keep going and going, and not only the emotional problems but physical as well. If the mother knew her mother had hurt her child and lied to authorities to protect the abuser, she should be facing charges related to interfering with an investigation. Hopefully other women who are protecting someone who is hurting their child or children will hear about it and know they have to do what is right. I wonder if the mother thinks about her complicity in her daughters fate, I certainly hope so.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#5 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:43 AM EDT

          Perhaps this woman was also abused by her mother and just simply did not know how to do better. Or felt threatened, or WAS threatened by her mother not to tell the truth or else...

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          #5.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

          Who really knows though...maybe she was abused & abusive...maybe she blamed it on her mother (the grandmother) because the grandmother was deceased..

            #5.2 - Sun Aug 5, 2012 3:39 AM EDT
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            what a stupid article....!

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            Reply#6 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:50 AM EDT

            what a stupid comment.....!

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            #6.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:06 AM EDT
            Reply

            She was injured as a 4 month old, and left seriously brain-damaged. She lived her life first with a foster family and then as an adult who needed total care, and she died in an "Austin care facility for people with mental disabilities." Read articles carefully before commenting on them, please.

            • 12 votes
            Reply#7 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

            Kathy Dettwyler

            Read articles carefully before commenting on them, please.

            I would suggest you take your own admonition. Nowhere does it say she was not returned to her birth mother, nor does it say at what point she was placed in the long term care facility.

            Granted, your supposition is likely correct, but without actual detailed information, it is just that, a supposition.

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            #7.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

            I think the link in the article provides the information Kathy Dettwyler references

              #7.2 - Sun Aug 5, 2012 3:41 AM EDT
              Reply

              Another case of child abuse, no matter how old, is swept under the carpet. Go after the mother of this woman. She knew about it.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#8 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

              I would imagine the Austin police and Child Protective Services lulled this one over. How is it they would consider the death of a 36-yr old mentally handicapped child to have been murdered this late in life? In my opinion, the mother, who knew of the incident and looked for excuses way back when, should be held complicit in a crime. Basing my opinion on what is written. A four-month old could not, in any way, have slipped on a toy as the baby wouldn't have even been walking yet. Looks like the cops, etc., screwed up on this one in or around 1976 and are covering up to protect themselves. Don't know if murder is the appropriate charge here, but definite child abuse appears to be warranted on the mother's part. How do we even know if the culprit was granny? Might be that mom is the culprit, and granny was covering up for her.

              Too many "ifs". Definitely the cops and CPS should be facing charges of neglect, or cover up. Just taking a child away and putting them in the foster care system doesn't appear to have been a sufficient remedy for this case.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#10 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

              Can you imagine your mother causing permanent brain-damage to your 4-month old? How horrifying! The mother, although only 20, should have told the full truth and pursued justice for her daughter. She may have been a life-long abuse victim herself, unable to be strong. The mind boggles! The grandmother should have gone to prison.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#11 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:41 AM EDT

              and the "mother" should be put down if she's still alive.

                #11.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

                I hope the mother didn't breed anymore after that.

                  #11.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:41 PM EDT
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                  So the police were not notified about the abuse 36 years ago but they were notified when she died 36 years later who notified them ? So much information missing from this story. Where is Mom in all of this ?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#12 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:42 AM EDT

                  Where was Dad in all of this..or Grandpa...or the other set of grandparents?

                  • 3 votes
                  #12.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                  I don't know. Why do you ask?

                    #12.2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                    peterman, because having both natural parents greatly increases the development and quality of the child. Unfortunately, though much less common those days, our society sees nothing wrong with single parents who have little or no resources for an optimal environment.

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.3 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                    Hopefully the "mom" is deceased as well. If not, she should be.

                      #12.4 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

                      "Greatly increases the development and quality of a child?" I think not.

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                      #12.5 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                      If you read the articles from Austin newspapers, the Mother told the police last month that grandma "shook" the baby so hard that they ended up in the ER, which was spurred CPS to take the child away from her.

                      Apparently, when the police investigated last month Mom first lied - again - and then admitted what had happened when police continued investigating.

                      And Jan... oh my. "natural parents" only? So adoptive and step-parents just can't raise high "quality" children? Seriously? So mothers or fathers who are widowed are just SOL - if they marry someone else that person isnt the "natural parent" and if they don't, its impossible to "greatly increase the development and QUALITY of a child" I am actually a little amazed by your statement.

                      What amazes me is there was a child with blunt force trauma - a 4 mos old infant ! - with permanent brain damage, and mom kept her kids with the person that did that to her baby. WTF.

                      • 3 votes
                      #12.6 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

                      Doc, sorry, I meant quality of life... and if you need references, I can get them. What are you basing your opinion on? I had to do an undergrad project in which my topic was intelligence and poverty, so I know a tiny bit about the subject.

                      CAT... I did not say natural parents only. Boyfriends and stepparents increase the likelihood of abuse and death substantially (How Children Develop, Siegler et al).

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.7 - Sat Aug 4, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

                      CAT, can you explain what you mean by amazed? I'm sorry about omitting "of life" from quality, does that change anything?

                      You don't think that a child is in it's optimal environment with both parents? Obviously, sh!t happens and families do split up, but why would someone choose to have children without any support or resources? Lack of good childcare, a stable environment, permanent caregivers, and stimulation such as music and dance, as well as sports participation are all things that are more difficult for the single parent to provide. Of course, love is important, but all these factors give stimulation to the child's development.

                        #12.8 - Sat Aug 4, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

                        DOCJT then you think wrong. A mulitude of facts, read that again as the scientific research and conclusions and facts dispute your statement. All the evidence points to a two parent household being far superior in raising a child. For one thing they may not have had to live with grandma.

                          #12.9 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
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                          If it wasn't investigated all that well after the childs injury, I am curious how and why they conveniently blamed the deceased grandmother out of a clear blue sky? Sorry, but if it was 20 Y/O mom who was making all the lame excuses for how her child was injured; I suspect she should have been charged then and now. Sorry but to me this sounds like; 'Too Little, To Late' political grandstanding.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#13 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

                          I totally agree. I think it was the young mother who shook the baby. Sounds like grandma was already dead when she "broke down" and claimed her mother had done it.

                            #13.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            The pain and suffering of child abuse lasts a lifetime. No child should deserves to live in fear! 2131

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                            Reply#14 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:01 AM EDT

                            This is tragic and a crying shame but what can be done now?

                            Murder, in what degree?

                            Abuse, caused by or known by the mother or even an accident known by the mother does not merit a "murder" when the victim dies 36 years later!

                            Harming a 4 month old baby is the real crime, if it happened that way? Especially if she was left in a condition that required 36 years of care in a mental home. Too many lose ends and not enough facts!

                            Get the Mother, fill her with SP and get the truth!

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#15 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

                            Why wasn't this really investigated all those years ago? What a digusting, vile, evil woman for doing this! I hope she is suffering in the afterlife!

                            • 5 votes
                            Reply#16 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                            Damn...Geddy Lee? Thanks for puttin great music in my head with your boardname!

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                            #16.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:31 AM EDT
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                            America needs to be proactive when it comes to child abuse. Barbara Boxer's "Violence Against Children Act" would go a long way to establish mandatory reporting of abuse and stiff penalties for abusers.

                            It has languished in judiciary committees for years as a result of feminist opposition. VAWA, which sailed through years ago, doesn't do studies about maternal abuse. They have politicized child abuse within the sloganeering of "stop violence against women & girls." They give the impression most child abuse is sexual. It is not. The majority of abuse falls into the vague catagory of "neglect" which is most often maternal. The majority of child abuse and murder is perpetrated by females.

                            Article maternal murder

                            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42634832/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

                            Katty Kay-Morning Joe

                            http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/most-children-who-die-from-abuse...

                              Reply#17 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

                              We have mandatory reporting. It is unfortunate indeed, that mandatory reporting was not available to this woman when she was brutalized.

                                #17.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 7:42 PM EDT
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                                I grew up in forster homes from the age of 5 till I went in the military . I had my skull fractured twice my left shoulder broken and both hands broken and the mental tourture never stopped . At an early age I fiqured out what authorty was really about. It to me is that if people are in charge they can abuse it any time and get away with any thing . The state I live in had an investiation into forster homes some yrs. back and decided to drop every thing because they would have to charge 3/4 of the homes with child abuse. I could tell you a lot of true stories about them homes because I knew a lot of kids that where in them and we would talk amung our selfs what was going on in them. I never knew one that didn't come out of them homes with out a lot of problems. I was in my 40s before I would talk about what had happened. That is why today I look at what is going on in this goverment and the world and I say YEP . yOU GIVE ANYONE POWER OVER ANOTHER AND LOOK OUT. then you will see what that person is really made of.

                                • 5 votes
                                Reply#18 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

                                hank, My sympathies go to you. Thank God you are alive. I was brought up by an abusive mother and a stepfather who did nothing to stop it. I had and still have paranoid feelings. It's a cross to bear.

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                                #18.1 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                                Hank - - I feel for the child you were and the adult you are now. You lost your childhood and now you feel lost as an adult. But as Marilee says, thank goodness you are alive today. You control your own destiny now; dig deep and take pride in yourself and what you can offer this world. Thank you for sharing your comments.

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                                #18.2 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:18 AM EDT
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                                Murder charges are absolutely reasonable. All the posts that don't agree are part of the problem when it comes to abuse of children. It's exactly those kind of attitudes, along with ignorant and/or indifferent attitudes regarding mental illness, that enable and encourage the Jerry Sandusky's and countless others. Society looks the other way, we call it a family matter, muddle the truth using some stupid privacy claims or maybe the very worse rationalization of all, we call the children liars. 95% of child abuse, sexual or physical, is perpetrated by family members or someone they know. Get your head's out of your butts.

                                • 6 votes
                                Reply#19 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

                                So, so sad. RIP

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#20 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                                Anyone who would abuse a baby or a child has got to be a very sick individual. This is sooo sad, it's unbelievable. :(

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#21 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

                                The paragraph with the heading ' out of the norm', gives a link to a newspaper article. That goes into it a little more. If anyone is interested.

                                  Reply#22 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

                                  I don't get this. Where is the mother? She knew about the abuse obviously from what was reported. How do they know the mother wasn't involved as well? Something smells pretty bad about this one.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#23 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

                                  Wait, the grandmother and mother don't get charged even as the child is disabled for life? Really? CPS only removes the child, but still nothing happens to these people? I hope they at least removed the other children as well, otherwise who knows what the body count would be. I guess you can get away with a crime if you don't kill the victim and they can't talk? Whatever happened to justice?

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                                  Reply#24 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

                                  Well I'm gonna go out on a limb here and explain this its not complicated or maybe I'm missing something? The Grandmother abused the child so bad that she was taken to the hospital were she was treated for the injury but was mentally challenge because of the injuries. I'm supposing the foster parents had her put in a home mental to be taking care of or they took care of her until the time she went to the Austin care facility were she had died. So I'm assuming that Mary Jane did some type of abuse that made Linda mentally disabled after she was taking away, so therefore Mary Jane the grandmother of Linda actually did murder here granddaughter its just she did not die right away from her injuries. Now that's what I'm assuming happened because there is a lot of information not in the story,was she mentally disabled from birth, who were the foster parents when did she go to the Care facility, but if you fill in the blanks that's what it sounds like... I would think its no different then beating somebody up and they did not die right away and died a few years later you are still responsible for the death of that person because you beat them up...

                                  Just sayin..

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                                  Reply#25 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                                  patter123:

                                  There is no statute of limitations on murder. The mother should be charged as an accessory, however, at this point it may be difficult to prove. And I agree, there should be no statute of limitations on child abuse. There is no limit to the emotional and possibly even physical side effects of it, so why should there be a limit to the perpetrator being charged with the crime?

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                                  Reply#26 - Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:44 AM EDT
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