Right on, R-7. When did ignorance become a virtue?

STexan: Who messed in your Wheaties?

What happened, happened. No one can do anything about the past.

But we can do something about the present and voting in more science-literate leaders would be a great start.

Cheers to R-7. Spoken like a young person, who has everything to lose from poor decisions.

It just makes me wonder how much our own government and their HAARP system have to with this, since this system was developed for our military to change the weather patterns of our enemies, during war times !!!!

Add to the hot, dry conditions the propensity of Oklahomans to throw their cigarette butts out the window and things like this are inevitable. When I lived there, I saw dozens of burned-out patches by the side of the road.

115 degrees at my house yesterday here in the metro area -- 113 the day before.

And well said, Richard. The sooner that guy retires, the better off the whole world will be.

Hey Sen.Inofe why not have those idiot family members of yours build an igloo in front of the state capitol. Where's that sign they made laughing at global warming? Of course next time it snows in Washington y'all be back at it.

We broke a heat record from 1980 wasn't it global cooling in the mid 1970s ?? now its global warming hummmm.

want to lower CO2 emissions kill off 6 billion CO2 breathing people problem solved

Randy:

want to lower CO2 emissions kill off 6 billion CO2 breathing people problem solved

I would rather there be a solution that doesn't involve genocide, thanks much.

more heat more fires we love it ...we dont want your corn .

The world and climate is changing all around us and some still just can't seem to grasp the reality of it. Man kind is destroying themselves.

That's it, Oklahoma and Texas. Keep votin' RWNJ, and denying climate change. Make all the excuses to crap on the planet and not raise a finger to clean up after yourselves, especially if it might cost something. Seems like God is trying to send you a message, though. "Free will" doesn't mean "free to mess up the nice place He gave you to live."

God is just. The very people who have caused this problem will suffer the most, in the long run. Nature has heated, and cooled the planet fo billions of years. But we now have an advanced species on the planet that is taking the norm, and destroying it. When you see the amount of carbon dioxide produced by our use of fossil fuels, you like to say that's roughly half of what nature does. Let's take the most beautiful men and women on the planet, and up their food intake by 50%. It will make a profound difference on their health, and their beauty. If you don't like that one, create an airtight room, where there is enough air recycling machinery to keep 10 people alive for a week. Then lock 15 people in the room. What do suppose will happen?

Drought? What drought? A line of thunderstorms just passed through the entire state of Minnesota -- and I mean the ENTIRE state! How can there be a drought anywhere at all when an entire state is getting rained on?

Yeah, it's the same as saying that snow in places where it happens to be cold enough and wet enough for snow is "proof" that Global Warming is a hoax.

S Texan: Just wait until it is too hot to live in most of Texas or Oklahoma on a year-round basis, which, according to hundreds of post-PHD scientists all over the world, could happen as soon as within the next few years!!!

Perhaps this scientific study from 2009 might be of some help in understanding the dangers that we all face? Everyone in this study is way above my league. I'm only a BA with 30 years of experience in my field:

Main Article: http://www.stockholmresilience.org/download/18.8615c78125078c8d3380002197/ES-2009-3180.pdf

Supplement about freshwater depletion and climate change: http://www.stockholmresilience.org/download/18.1fe8f33123572b59ab800016603/planetary-boundaries-supplementary-info-210909.pdf

If you want I can easily dig up hundreds of similar articles just by going through my bookmarks, and I am an urban sustainability planner, not a climate change scientist.

Wow okc was JUST 110. I live 80 miles south near the Texas line. It was 115 degrees on the 2nd, 112 degrees yesterday, and 110 today.

wow, the compassion for those who are losing their homes is amazing! Just for the record that is sarcasm!

It is very scary for the temps to be this high and for so long, no rain and everything is so dried out that a mere spark can start a raging fire. I pray that God will protect those affected by these fires. I also pray for rain and soon. At my house we haven't had a day below 108 in over 2 weeks. The AC hasn't shut off even overnight. I look forward to fall.

I wish all these deniers would just wake up and smell what's cooking outside!

Thank God alarmists hibernate in the winter!

But we can do something about the present and voting in more science-literate leaders would be a great start

We tried Carter...that didnt work

I think we need to study more about human flatulence. Methane is by far the more effective greenhouse gas. Farting should be made illegal immediately! Oh, and we need to ban the cow. It was a good run.

Now water, that greenhouse gas is going to be tough to control. Perhaps this drought will ensure some future cooler weather due to the lessor ground water saturation. I'm sure we can get a peer reviewed study to prove that as well. The oceans and lakes are a huge problem though. I dont think we can figure out how to drain those. Well, we could dam up less water and go with wind power. Coal burning could the atmosphere as well, we can use more of that over hydro dams. I think we got this figured out here.

Coal burning could the atmosphere as well,

could cool the atmosphere is what I meant to say! I'm such a stupid redneck!

Observer_1

Randy:

want to lower CO2 emissions kill off 6 billion CO2 breathing people problem solved

I would rather there be a solution that doesn't involve genocide, thanks much.

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No no you don't get it. Mother Earth or Man will correct this problem via Nukes , or a virus or something. Over population is a major problem, not the cars we drive with tailpipe emissions that is cleaner than the air we breath.

Something bad is going to happen

Randy:

No no you don't get it. Mother Earth or Man will correct this problem via Nukes , or a virus or something. Over population is a major problem, not the cars we drive with tailpipe emissions that is cleaner than the air we breath.

Something bad is going to happen

Perhaps. But again, I'd rather look for solutions to avoid that, rather than apathetically anticipating it.

my Jetta TDI gets 35 mpg on B-20 and 42hwy so Iam doing my small part

I quess none of you ever heard of the dust bowl years when "world wide", cars, the population, industry was about a tenth of what it is now. Weather cycles have happened naturally world wide forever, with many ice ages, mini ice ages, warming periods, such as the "Ice Age", and the "Medieval Warming period", without the help of man kind. Study some real history, that hasn't been conveniently revised...Ever wonder why the climate chang alarmists want to tax CO2 the best fertilizer known to man, and the biggest component of our atmosphere...because they can make money by taxing our every breath..What happened to the old real demonized fossil fuel pollutants of the past, nitrous oxide, carbon moxide,acid rain etc?..I'll tell you what, car companies, and industry have cleaned them up so much there is no tax money for Al Gore and his buddies to tax unless he has the ability to tax all of us for exhaling a natural occurring compound which trees use to give off oxygen in a symbiotic relationship.....Also like the demonization of freon which led to a ten fold government tax, you won't hear a peep about the hole in the atmosphere,was just another scare tactic to extract money from us, and if they fixed the proplem you would think they would be trumpeting what they did to repair it with our money. We are also part of nature, and at the top of the chain..

John:

I quess none of you ever heard of the dust bowl years

And I "quess" you never read about all the reasons why the Dust Bowl happened.

While there was a drought, there was also no crop rotations or fallow fields, proper irrigation, etc.

and the biggest component of our atmosphere

Nitrogen is the biggest component of our atmosphere. Followed by oxygen, then argon. Then carbon dioxide.

Just thought you'd like to know.

Believe me when I tell you that I've been trying to dethrone Inhofe for the past 10 years. In Oklahoma, our Senators (cough tyrants) get life terms or become the President of OU!

I wish your brother well Time and hope he stays safe. But just how much more of this will we have to face before we are willing to admit that climate change is real and we must begin to deal with it rather than continuing to ignore scientific reality?

Charlie-1915998: It will be years until the powers in charge cycle out and allow people with real vision to come in and make real change for people. And by then, it will be too late.

Rolling Stone had a great article on climate change recently where they said the available gas and oil in supply and ready to burn represents $20 trillion in today's dollars. That's money companies are still banking on, so it will be years before the powerful acknowledge that people and the planet are more important that money.

And no disrespect to "Time Told". I agree that we have to think of the people. My family, in west Texas, haven't had decent rain in 4 years and may need to leave Midland, Texas, because the water supply is running out. People are still coming there to work in the oil fields but without water to support them, it will be going bust yet again sometime soon.

I was wondering what started the fires. The article didn't say.

Thank your brother for his service.

Seems climate change has made things optimal for arsonists.

...and Inhofe should be in jail.

Talking about the temperature, the fires and the drought in this area of the country is not stupid. It is real and throwing federal money to farmers who have no water is not going to make the crops grow! America has to rethink just how are we going to raise food for our people. If not, we could become like the starving nations like Africa.

The fires are being INTENTIONALLY SET BY STUPID HUMANS THAT HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHERS.

Are you sure it is not God's punishment for all the right wing ignorance coming out Oklahoma?

Positive...if he was punishing ignorance he would wait till you were there Minan59.

M-6, You are correct they are looking for the people now. It's on the news. It is arson NOT global warming. Why can't people leave politics out of it? Inhofe is not setting the fires.

Minan59, right wing ignorance? Are you trying to be funny or are you really that stupid? You're not from around here are you? If you knew anything about Okies you would be a little more careful about spewing that kind of BS. There could be one within earshot, be careful. You might get hurt. That is unless you are in the protective confines of mommies crawlspace. Clean up your spooge rags and ask mom to make you a grilled cheese sandwich, we don't need your 2 cents.

It is arson NOT global warming.

So the arsonists made the state tinder box dry so they could set it on fire?

Have another drink of kool-aid, Stimpy. We'll be alright.

the jolly candy-like button.......it must be... "SPACE MADNESS!"

What a bunch of dolts arguing over whether people or global warming started the fires. People caused the fires, people caused the global warming. People are ruining this planet and need to fix it by taxing the rich as much as possible.

Uh, BD, as an Oklahoman, I agree with NYMike.

And most of us don't talk about beating people up and spew innuendos on the internet because someone disagrees with us, despite how they state their opinion. Oklahomans are Will Rogers classy. Step up to the role and put down the mud.

Well thank goodness it's not global climate change, and arson, something we can do something about. If it was global climate change we'd have to sit around on our thumbs. But hey, how did the arsonists dry out all that vegetation? It must've taken a LOT of hair dryers.

Not everyone in Oklahoma is a Republican. In fact, the Democratic party dominates Oklahoma and controls most of the money. However, it is a state that is based in Christian values and that tends to swing even a lot of the voting democrats toward the Republican party. If the Dems would get off the religious sacred cows, like abortion, a lot of Dems would vote for them again. Just saying!!!

Also, contrary to the opinions of many posting here, not everyone in Oklahoma is linked to big oil. Personally, if it weren't so darned expensive, I would be heating/cooling my home with solar energy now and driving a hybrid. I am concerned, very concerned about global warming and climate change. I've watched as friends sold their cattle last year for nothing even close to what they were worth because their ponds and creeks dried up.

I stand on my porch and look at the stubble that was once my lawn and watch the needles fall off my brown decaying 50 foot pine tree in the front yard that will cost me $1500 bux to cut down, as well as the damage to my $5k cedar fence. I live near so much grassland in Southern Oklahoma that I fear that one stray spark could set my world on fire easily.

Inhofe is a joke of mega proportions. In fact, for years we called him our ghost senator because he never showed up for a vote! I would love to rid Washington of him and every other politician that can watch the arctic melt with fervor and say global warming is a figment of a Polar Bears imagination.

But the fact is, WE us all of us control global warming. I don't see everyone posting on this forum rushing out to purchase the $40k dollar solar home system (which by the way wouldn't produce enough electricity in the summer time to run an Oklahoma A/C), nor purchase the hybrid. Because lets face it, WE THE PEOPLE, are as much of the problem as big oil or Inhofe.

When I saw the title of the article, I expected to see posts from TPers protesting the new taxes.

No offense intended to Oklahoma with that comment, but the TPers are what they are and there's no denying their ignorance and greed aren't helping us develop alternative energy sources.

Very good post underemployed. If you never lived through a fire when homes are destroyed, you have no idea of the loss and destruction these people are going through. PRAY for them and RAIN

Thank you, My family is from OK and they/these people have lives and feelings above arrogant wisdom and politics. I hope and pray for their safety and well being. JC

LMAO

As an Oklahoman, I find your comments to my fellow Oklahomans here in the South and my fellow Americans in San Francisco rude and shameful.

Please don't talk about bigotry, when you make a post laced with it.

Shandril, you are a hypocrite.

Sooner,

Great Post .

I am with you on that.

God bless the great State of Oklahoma.

Great post Sooner. They underestimate us at there own peril. Most have no idea the contributions Okies have made to this great country. We are just flyover country to those blue state goobers.

First, the country was started by radicals with radical ideas. Second, BDBerzerker wants us to believe he's a Democrat, but he hates blue states. I think he just doesn't know how to spell Republican.

I love it when people bring up The Great Dust Bowl as an example of, "see, this happened before, so it's not our fault." You guys know the part about the dust bowl being a result of man turning huge swaths of what used to be grassland into farmland, leaving bare dirt much of the year, right?

Intelligent.

An oil company employee and/or stockholder.

Certainly not a scientist

Not a polar bear

You go Marshal.

Lets get rid of all the inner City buses that run on CNG that spews out CO2.

Yeah. Another great "argument": "Well if you say greenhouse gasses cause climate change, then we should all just ride bikes, and that would really suck, so we better just do nothing." Right. Because running a more efficient bus is worse than just getting everybody back out on the road in 4-ton SUVs again. Anyone ever hear of friggin' moderation, and setting a path of achievable goals? What, when your car needs an oil change do you just throw up your hands and say, "well, it's a lost cause. I guess we'll just junk it here and get a new one."?

Great Post Jessica,

I still remember my themostat reaching 114 in 2007 in SE OK.

Jim

Thanks Jim. Yes, it can get very hot here. There are several places in Oklahoma that have reached a higher temperature than 113, a lot of them in the very Southern and very Northern parts of Oklahoma.

I definitely feel empathy for people going through this, but the part I have a hard time with is districts, states, heck even countries, that choose to do nothing about what several indicators are telling us may be contributing to the problem. Places where a majority of people choose to elect individuals that advocate doing NOTHING, or even ACCELERATING what is thought to be causing climate change are potentially having an impact on the ENTIRE PLANET. You're free to think what you want, yes, and I don't actually wish people to lose their homes and lives, but the disregard of you, or at least a lot of your neighbors, is a threat to the rest of us. Scratch that. ALL of us.

The "hate-based liberal left"? What, are you really going to blame them for telling you warming the planet with our wastes was going to eventually help fires erupt in your back yard? Oh, yeah. That "liberal left" is so "hate-based," they're the ones always associated with fighting against racism, inequality, gender discrimination, exploitation of the poor by the wealthy, preying upon the weak by the powerful. Yeah, I'm sure St. Peter HATES them for that. They need to just suck it up and watch everyone get screwed in silence.

Kim, turn the temp up to 78 or 79 and use celling fans. I do this in my 2,000 sf home and keep the bill under 120 dollars a month.

"say they have irrefutable evidence that points to this heat wave being directly connected to global warming and human activity."

Nobody said that. They said that these events are happening more often, and THAT is connected to climate change.

"whether or not the earth is absorbing this carbon slower, as fast or faster than it is being put into the atmosphere."

We havae pretty good handle on that. The biosphere and hydrosphere absorbs a lot, but cannot absorb it as fast as we are dumping it -- which is why the concentration has increased by about 30% so far.

keep laughing,your time to roast will come too,the old liberal hoax will visit all.

Bite Me!!!! and eat my 115 degree oklahoma red dirt!

Wow, thanks for the compassion..