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Alexander Weisler / The Journal News
Police gather on the shore of Lake Gleneida in Carmel, N.Y., where a woman drowned and a 6-year-old was saved by three people fishing in a rowboat.
A 6-year-old girl found clinging to the corpse of a woman was rescued Monday from Lake Gleneida in New York by a group of people in a rowboat, police said.
The girl was taken to Putnam Hospital Center and said to be uninjured.
The woman she was with, an acquaintance of the girl’s mother, was identified as Pamela Kaner, 59, of Brewster, N.Y., according to the New York City Department of Environmental Protection. She was pronounced dead at the scene, and her body was taken to the hospital, where an autopsy will be performed.
Three boaters -- two men and a woman -- who had gone out to fish on Lake Gleneida, about 55 miles outside of New York City, noticed the girl holding onto a body several hundred feet from the shore crying out for help Monday afternoon.
The child was not wearing a life vest, one of the boaters told police, so they placed a life vest on her and brought her to shore where they called Carmel police.
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Town police and rescue crews, which included a dive team from the Mahopac Fire Department and volunteer ambulance and firefighters, arrived to the lake at about 5 p.m. after receiving a 911 call, Carmel Police Sgt. John Dearman told The Journal News.
Kaner’s body was retrieved by firefighters, who paddled out in a commandeered boat. Dearman said there was no opportunity for life-saving measures to be performed on the woman.
Kaner had reportedly been watching the girl briefly while her mother took her car to the mechanic. They had been wading the in the shallows of the lake, and Kaner was holding the girl until something went wrong, the girl told police.
“It is unknown if she had a medical event occur that caused her to drown or if they just got too far out," Dearman said. “We don’t know. We’re going to have to wait for the autopsy.”
After the rescue, police interviewed the three boaters who made the 911 call. They said they initially believed the girl was clinging to a large plastic bag and only realized it was a body after getting closer.
“I believe it was traumatic for the child,” Carmel Police Chief Michael Johnson told the Associated Press.
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A woman who identified herself as the 6-year-old’s mother was also interviewed by police at the scene. She said she had become concerned after several attempts to call Kaner earlier had failed.
The waters of Lake Gleneida, which are part of New York City’s water supply system, are the jurisdiction of the New York City Department of Environmental Protection, and their police detectives will be conducting the follow-up investigation.
The lake is about 730 yards across at its widest point.
In a statement, DEP Commissioner Carter Strickland said, “We are saddened by the tragedy that occurred last night on Lake Gleneida and are working with the Camel Police to determine what happened. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family.”
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What if the girl killed the woman who was watching her, and then obviously pretended it was an accident? :)
I suppose that would make her an incrediably brilliant 6 year old. So what if she had been fould floating on a big pink elephant?
Really Andrew???? Cuz 6 year olds often kill and then cling onto the body so they don't drown! Here's your sign!
Happens all the time in zombie movies.
What the hell is wrong with you?
A few too many horror movies, or a few too many joints?
What a sick bunch of individuals you are. Shame on you. Certainly not mature responses.
@Prismlady - You must be new here.
I have to say I am glad someone else uses the pink elephant analogy. I do that all the time, although mine is purple. I had a history teacher answer "what if" questions that way and I adopted it.
What if she killed her?
What if her grandmother was a purple elephant? Zero relevance.
She could have accidentally killed her. I learned the hard way that when a trusted adult goes into deeper water a young inexperienced swimmer will panic and FOLLOW you out! Then climb up ontop of you in an effort to get out of the water. That may have occured here.
I would guess that the woman had a heart attack or stroke while she was swimming with the little girl. It is sad that this woman died but great news that the 6 year old is OK. Hopefully she will get the help she needs to process what has happened. Too often parents do not think about things like that when a child is involved in a traumatic event and the kid ends up having much bigger problems later in life as a result.
Funny and dark.
Just that, how come a body dies and not sink.
Much more details needed.
What is the cardinal rule of water rescue? DO NOT LET THE DROWNING PERSON GRAB ONTO YOU
This is a possible scenario : the little girl went too far out in the water and got in trouble, the woman went in to save her, she got too close and the child got her round the neck, the woman could not hold her head above water and drowned herself. For whatever reason, she was buoyant enough to float.
Good God, you many of you are heartless!
Here we have an article about a tragedy involving a young girl, and the only semi-intelligent thing you can come up with are jokes??
How about: My heart and prayers go out to this young girl and the woman's family for their loss. I am glad that this girl was not harmed, and I hope she is able to process this and put it behind her eventually.
For those who don't know why a "body floats" in water after death, I would suggest you read a science book instead of watching zombie and gore movies.
My own thought is why refer to the body as a "corpse" unless to further increase macabre thoughts? I doubt the drowned woman was dead in the water long enough to be referred to as a corpse. If she had been in the water for 12 to 24 hours and decomposition had progressed to that point, perhaps a corpse. Even then I had read very few headlines or news stories or articles where it is said, "police pulled a CORPSE out of the water".
Depends on how much water the lungs take in. Lungs are like ballons. The less water and more air in them the more bouyant your body.
What would u suggest u call a dead body if not a corpse.
Naw...uh uh..!
ya think?
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I believe it was traumatic for the child,” Carmel Police Chief Michael Johnson
Brilliant f*cking analysis. I see public schools are still churning out intelligent students in droves.
Spellchecker as always you go straight to the absurd quote by the Chief and define it eloquently.
Just a weekend at Bernetta's.
Seriously why does a body float? If this woman who passed so suddenly was of the voluptuous persuasion and built like a real woman she would float nicely for hours air in her lungs or not. It's very sad that she had to go but at least she kept the little girl safe to the end. Now thats a friend.
The body decomposes pretty quickly, and creates lots of gas when it does. That's what kept her afloat.
What I haven't seen mentioned is that there was a dead body floating in NYC's water supply! Eeeeuuuhhhh...
Who let's people swim & boat in their water supply. Ours are surrounded by fences or completely covered thanks to terrorism concerns.
A body floats, because it has been eating Mc Donalds, or Burger King for a number of years. It has a floatation device built in. Get it. Eat more, have a spare inner tube..HAHAHAHA...You all will float...
You have a body. You are alive. If they pulled your body out of the water, you might still be alive. A corpse, by definition, is a dead human body. Or, if you are in medical school, a cadaver.
Maybe because in their hurry to get the story out, the writers didn't wait for the coroner to pronounce the body "dead"? You're gonna like the English language, once you get used to it.
Dead bodies do not typically float until after a couple of days when enough decomposition has occurred for air bubbles to accumulate in the lungs and body cavity to promote floating. However, it is possible for enough air to get trapped in clothing to keep a body afloat for a few hours. It is also possible for a body to fall face first in a way that air cannot easily escape the lungs and be replaced by water. In that case a body could stay floating for some time.
That poor child. What a horrible ordeal to go through. And how amazing to have survived.
The human body is heavier than fresh water. I imagine the woman was fully clothed, may have been wearing shoes and could possibly have something in her pockets. Like all other drowning victims, she would sink.
Now, had the water been warmish, heated even by the sun in the shallows, it's a real stretch but just maybe decomposition had begun. Except ~ " Kaner had reportedly been watching the girl briefly . . . "
I suggest, zevon, that you fetch up some learning on fresh water drowning and what happens when PM.
Not only was the deceased woman's body floating, but the 6-year-old girl was using the body as a flotation device, so for whatever reason, the body was considerably less dense than the water around her.
That is so sad and frightening. Prayers to all involved in this to the family of the woman, the family of the child and to her rescuers. What a blessing that the folks were in the water and noticed the child and cared enough to assist.
What's frightening is not putting a life vest on a 6 year old when out in a small boat. I would never go out in a little boat without a life vest and I'm an adult who can swim very well.
I think the best guess of the situation is that she and the woman were not in a boat, rather they were wading in the lake when something happened. I wuppose more details will follow. Fortunately, those in the row boat had a vest for her.
Wakehead - did you read the entire story? The girl and babysitter were wading, the people in the boat came along later and found them floating. No reason to have a life vest on a child if you are just wading. I'm betting the babysitter had a medical event (such as heart attack).
Wakehead
Reading is fundamental, try it you might enjoy it.
Dude, sounds like you're better at swimming than reading.
look, it's one thing to READ something...
quite another to COMPREHEND what you read.
give wakehead a break, he at least tried.
Trudy P...glad you read it unlike others but have to disagree about the lifevest. Any child under 8 should be wearing a PFD when wading in a body of water. There are multiple types of danger. A person can drown off a teaspoon of water. Think of it like a seatbelt...not really needed unless your in an accident. But it is the law to wear one none the less.
And once they got her in the boat they put a life vest on her. So rest assured Wakehead, from the moment that she got on the boat, she was wearing a life vest.
Gee Narwal really? A life vest when wading in a pond? That's helicopter parenting at its utmost. If, as you say, you can drown in a teaspoon of water (and believe me I'd LOVE for you to find proof of that one), then we should outlaw teaspoons, and wear a life jacket at all times because it might rain and some poor kid might drown in a puddle.
What an absolutely stupid thing to say.
oh whatever did they do before life jackets were invented?
I wonder if narwhal has ever seen, i don't know, a beach. A pool. Ya, know swimming. Not a whole lot of life jackets needed. And compared to wading, swimming is... bah. I give up.
Actually, I believe this to be true. Inhaling substances could cause strangulation (drowning). I had a frightening experience while eating some roasted soy nuts. I inhaled the "soy dust" and it felt like the dust covered my lungs--I could barely cough and was gasping for air for quite a while--very scary. Elderly and fragile people often need to be careful about swallowing properly.
"A person can drown off a teaspoon of water. "
Really, Narwal? Please explain how a teaspoon of water in the lungs could cause hypoxia severe enough to cause brain death? Would it be a 1/2 t in each lung?
We waded, swam, dove, paddled, flipped, bellyflopped, leaped off boards, leaped off cliffs, etc... Only the military and official rescue had life jackets. Or, at least there were no laws requiring them.
And we played dodgeball, tag, battleball, tetherball, kickball... before they were thought too dangerous.
Nor did we have seatbelts or helmets, actually.
Protecting kids or swaddling them, the debate continues...
I'm a PT, and they put people on feeding tubes if they can't swallow liquids properly because they might breathe in even a little bit of fluid. In that case they would actually not be drowning but could develop pneumonia from breathing in the fluids from the food they were eating and die of the pneumonia. I doubt you would actually drown, per se, from a teaspoon of water unless you were an infant. However, kids have literally drowned in a few inches of water in buckets or bathtubs. I think that was the point the commenter was trying to make. The idea is that when wading with a young child, you never take you eyes off them-EVEN IF THEY ARE WEARING A LIFEJACKET.
Lakes can have currents, waves, etc. It's not unheard of for people to be electrocuted if they are near a dock or marina. And, of course, there are boats. An adult can have a medical event if they are not elderly-they can have a seizure or if they are diabetic they can go into insulin shock or anyone can have an aneurism without warning. I knew a very althletic guy who had a heart attack at the age of 36-after that he followed the doctor's orders and exercised more if anything, but he had another heart attack in his early 40's. Also, some adults can't swim; and if these two accidentally stepped into a place in the lake that was too deep while wading-if they misjudged the depth or if there was a current-an adult can drown just like a child can in shallow water. I don't know what happened, and my heart goes out to all who were involved in this tragedy.
"A person can drown off a teaspoon"
No they can't. Well maybe if they were the size of a pea.
The real concern here, is the traumatizing of an innocent little girl, whatever the circumstances. Her life will never be the same. She will be haunted with nightmares and intrusive thoughts the rest of her life. What a horrific experience for someone so young. My heart goes out to her.
"A person can drown off a teaspoon" Narwal is an ant folks. What he says is true in the insect world.
Wow... A lot of you in here are pretty stupid. Almost as stupid as the kid that nearly died drinking a mountain dew too quickly back when I went to high school. Some how he had a swig go down his lungs, blacked out, and had to be revived by the EMTs because he stopped breathing. So yea the homework for everyone that is talking down on Narwal is to set up a youtube cam to auto post and film yourself inhaling a teaspoon of water then progress to something like milk. If you die then you did the world a favor, if you don't then submit it to tosh.o as a challenge.
Not every kid swimming without a vest will drown, but having your kid wear a vest is a great way to reduce those chances. The scenario of the girl going too far out and panicing and then drowning the mom's friend is more probable than the friend having a heart attack and dieing, and then the kid decides to grab the dead body and use it as a raft. Think about it... the kid is using the body to keep herself from drowning so clearly she was too far out to swim by herself.
this story does not pass the smell test. drowning victims sink for the first 12-36 hours until enough gas builds up to bring them back to the surface. this is why they are called blue bloaters. either the 6 year old or her mother is complicit in this.
Uncle Henry, shame on you. Thats just terrible.
blvnyrslf
I have raised 100's of small children. As a Mother, Foster Parent and Childcare Provider. if the family, media and professionals will allow her to forget she does not have to be scared for life. She wll forget if they allow her to. She's just a little girl. This tradgedy does not have to define her life.
IF you inhale just right, you can effectively drown in as little as a teaspoon of water. If it hits all the places just right, will strangle you just as effectively as fifty feet of water in a pool, lake, or anywhere else you might get in over your head.
@CatInahat
I once asked a "what if" question of my drill seargent. His reply... "what if a bird comes down and sheets in your eye"
Stuck with me all these years! LOL.
What a tragic nightmare for this poor little girl!! I do hope she gets some counseling from someone qualified enough to help her cope!
Now that's a bad babysitter.
Ever spend a few hours with a 6 year old?
It was probably suicide.
Bluegrass Boy - that was so bad but it made me LOL! Terrible sense of humor - I only laugh because I HAVE spent a few hours with a 6-year old.
In the event of your babysitters death, her body will function as a flotation device.
oh Z that is so awful. I spewed coffee out when I read it. LOL
Cat, I didn't spew coffee, but rather just spit all over my screen. I'm still laughing at that and probably will for the next hour or so.
Z- you should be a stand-up comic. Best comment I've read here on the Newsvine in a long, long time.
Now wait a minute. This babysitter floated around until the little girl was rescued.What more could she do?
Well we know she didn't drown or she would not have floated. The air in her lungs kept her buoyant. If she had drowned the average person wouldn't float for around 48 hrs @ 80 degree F. ambient temperature, 24 hrs. @ 90 degrees F.
WOW Prayers for the families
WOW! For a minute there I thought the National Enquirer had taken over the internet, then I realized it was just MSN business as usual. A wonder they didn't have full detail pictures - probably their paparazzi was somewhere else at the time.
You are upset the MSN is reporting on the death of someone? What do you actually consider news?
I agree that the headline sounds like something out of a tabloid. Very insensitive.
You mock what you read? Then why read at all?
BTW, it's no longer MSNBC, it's just NBC now.
Newsworthy?!!! Uh, World War III?????
It's nbcnews.com now. They took off the MicroSoft moniker, I guess Mr. Gates got tired of them using their name. I don't blame him either I wouldn't want my name on the BS they post & I've been reading msnbc news since 1995. lol!!!
"hold on dearie while I turn bloated so you can use me as a float"
Don't quit your day job to pursue your comedic career.
I hope this kid can heal and bury this experience or cope with it
Heal! Everything is healing with you people. Why does the kid have to heal from a life experience. The kid will be all right.
gr8.I was trying to be nice.
Two things:
BURY IT! LMAO bad word choice
Life experience? Um, no, not so much. What should the kid learn from this: that bodies float? That life jackets are a better option than corpses?
Who peed in your Wheaties this morning Carter??? Jeesh
Carter, it's called compassion. You might want to try it.
Some of you guys obviously don't know a thing about trauma and how it affects people-and you obviously don't care. Carter, do you really think that clinging to your babysitter's drowned corpse as a six year old to stay alive constitutes a typical "life experience"? If you do, then either your life has been a lot more traumatic than most, or you are more than a bit warped. The point people are making is that this experience is NOT a normal life experience and that the girl might need to talk to someone about what happened at some point. Is that so terrible or hard to understand?
Many people who have life experiences outside the norm wind up telling someone about them; and if those experiences were bad, they may want a sympathetic ear or for someone to understand how they feel-just like you probably did at some point in your life when something bad happened to you. That's really what people mean when they talk about "healing" from something. If it happens to be a really, REALLY bad experience, it may take a person a longer time to talk about it, that's all. Sometimes people go to professionals (ie, therapy) because their friends or families refuse to listen to them or because the experiences they want to talk about are overwhelming to the other people in their lives. It's really that simple. Let's face it, not everyone wants to hear about how you floated around on a lake clinging to a bloated, stinking corpse with the flies and the stink and how you felt and etc.
I once had a PT friend who attempted to rescusitate a drowning patient using CPR tell me all about it over and over again-all the gruesome details. And it's pretty gruesome to try to rescusitate a drowning person, especially when you aren't successful. That's why she told me about it so many times. I'm sure you have done the same thing with others when you have done or experienced something either traumatic or embarrassing-you've gone over it time after time until they are ready to kill you if you bring it up again. Or maybe you have a friend who always tells you about how his dad used to do this or that-or who didn't do this or that. Or you always talk about how the boss passed you over for that promotion. Until you are "healed" you won't stop talking about it. But it's no different from someone who is grieving wanting to talk about the person who just passed away or a kid who was teased at school wanting to tell his or her mom all about what happened or even a toddler who fell and scraped his knee wanting mommy to kiss it.
So what happens if you don't "heal"? The experiences tend to stick with you and affect the way you relate to others and also how you deal with situations in your life. Haven't you known people who were angry and bitter towards everyone in general and you just knew that it was because of their drunk dad who beat them or because they were spoiled as children or whatever? Or haven't you known people who CONSTANTLY bring up some injustice that was done to them in the past, and you can tell their entire life is defined by that one thing? I've known a number of people who discovered during the healing process that the reason they did the crazy and damaging things they did was because of traumatic things that had happened in their lives and because they had never had the opportunity to look at those things in an objective light, to see their actions objectively, to ask forgiveness if they needed to do so, to realize they were not at fault if that was the case, and essentially not to remain "stuck" or frozen emotionally in a state of trauma. They were able to take whatever actions were necessary to move past the trauma or embarrassment or injustice and to get on with their lives. If they had not "healed" they might have remained frozen in guilt when something was not their fault or when they could have asked forgiveness and restored a broken relationship. They might have remained paralyzed with fear when they could realize that something that happened was not their fault and therefore they could not have prevented it-so they could be set free from fear and uncertainty of themselves. And they could forgive people who had wronged them rather that staying frozen in bitterness and resentment. As they say in recovery, "Holding onto a resentment is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." You don't forgive for the person who wronged you; you forgive for yourself, so that you can be at peace.
Or you can chose to stay unhealed, fearful, bitter, and full of guilt. I've experienced both ways, and I can tell you which way I prefer. Some people disagree with me, though.
Carter, a good friend of mine had a "life experience" at that age - her parents were entertaining a friend in their home, when the friend's estranged husband barged in and shot her to death in front of everyone - including the six-year-old girl. Now in her 50's, still suffers from anxiety and abnormal obsession with housecleaning. I wouldn't say that she's "all right", when she's dependent on medication to function. My heart goes out to this little girl. It won't be easy for her to deal with this.
Carter's just a troll. Don't feed it.
Too bad the "blessing" didn't come a little sooner for all involved. Sort of like the "miracle" of one person surviving a plane crash (the real miracle would be if they all got up and dusted themselves off and walked away) or a multi-victim crime or natural disaster...
This is weird. Sympathies to the families involved.
My prayers go out to the families.
Also, how can anyone find humor in this? Please try to have a heart.
Because if we weren't here, it would be page after page of people saying, "I hope they heal quickly" or "My prayers go out the family", or "This is such a tragedy". Booorrrring.
Sure Z, because we can't possible stand to have anyone detracting from your idiotic sense of sensationalized entertainment, could we?
This is called reality, and it happens to come in the form of a news article. If this level of human compassion and altruism is too much for your sophomoric mind to handle, might I suggest you try posting on other websites, such as TMZ or the Weekly World News website. I think it'd be more your speed...
No, feel free to express your compassion. My sophomoric mind can handle it. It's still boring though. Hundreds of people all expressing compassion for people they don't know...and the recipients of your compassion will probably never read this either. It just seems so futile. Especially considering all these posts are essentially anonymous. What do you guys get out of it? Why not just think to yourself: My prayers go out to the family. It would accomplish the exact same thing but with less clutter. No?
Seems to me that you're the one cluttering this discussion board up. Why do you feel you have to comment at all if you can't comment in a positive light?
By the way....my thought and prayers go out to this 6 year old child! What a horrific thing to have happen to her.
Yes — this story is tragic, sad, weird, and morbidly comic but don't forget scientifically educational — the 6 year old would likely have drowned if it were not for the role of gastrointestinal bacteria producing gaseous byproducts in the dead woman's colon allowing her body to act as a flotation device.
Yes, a sad story, but I thought fresh dead bodies sunk beneath the water for a few days before the bacteria and gasses brought the body back up to the surface again. It sounds like this body never did sink, and the little girl was able to cling to it as it floated immediately. ???
Bodies don't always sink at the moment of death. It depends on the cause of death. Females are also more likely to float due to body fat ratios being higher than in males of similar weight. Also, her clothing can catch air bubbles soon after submersion which can also promote flotation. She likely had a stroke or heart attack based on age alone and this would also be a body more likely to float as bodies with perforating wounds to the abdomen and chest tend to leak the air trapped in the lungs and colon. Unfortunately, this knowledge is well known by those wanting to "sink" a corpse by weighing it down or stabbing the abdomen and chest lots of times to allow air to vent.
This is likely not a good story for her to write about in the typical first grade, "what I did last summer" paper.
I can honestly say that this is the first time I've actually learned something from the comment section of a news article. Thank you for sharing and teaching me something new, even if the subject is a little macabre.
Was that Carmel or Camel, they used both.
"but events leading up to the woman’s death and the girl's rescue were not yet certain." Why don't they simply ask the little girl what happened?
and let all their fancy new cop gear go to waste? are you daft man?.......................:)
Read the article. They did ask her. She said "something happened". A 6 year old child is not going to understand if an adult collapses! Perhaps the little girl grabbed hold of her not knowing what was wrong and they floated out into the lake. Perhaps the woman had a heart attack? They won't know until the autopsy is done.
So, to just use this as something to criticize the police is aggravating to me. You "know-it-alls" sit on posts and act like arrogant idiots.
That poor little girl! She must have been terrified...and traumatized. I hope she has a full recovery from this. I wonder what happened to the babysitter that she died...?
Read too many U.S. News articles probably.
Good Lord... I wonder what happened? I'm glad the little girl is ok but the story is definately missing something.
Nope, actually quite over researched for a regular MSNBC article. Excuse me, U.S. News. They even knew the boat the police took out to fetch the body was commandeered. Now that is crack reporting.
Kaner’s body was retrieved by firefighters, who paddled out in a commandeered boat.
I was thinking - why couldn't they just borrow it?
Lol @ enuf-uuu
So Sad. The 6 year old had to witness a death. Prayers for the Family and the little one.
For all you HEARTLESS IDIOTS blogging INHUMAN stuff. You should see a PSYCHOLOGIST. You need HELP.
Are you part of the RIGHT WING PARTY by chance!
Alain, I can't speak for all heartless idiots but I have been trying to stop blogging INHUMAN stuff with the help of a PSYCHOLOGIST. Unfortunately she recently died. She was found floating in a lake with a small child attached to her.
Probably Alain, since they all had Right Water Wings, they're not the ones floating face down. You know the natural position in the sand, just a bit deeper, for liberals like you.
Alain people don't have wings. If this girl had been equipt with water wings the babysitter would have been lost! Poor little 6 yr old has no idea what death is or looks like probably thought babysitter just took a nap.
Alan DeDouche,
Congratulations on turning a tragic story of a drowning and a traumatized 6 year old political! Did you really mean to make the right wing look compassionate and rational compared to you? Job well done, sir!!!!!
Another excellent reason to have a high BMI: You can float after death and provide raft services to the other victims.
They're working with THE CAMEL POLICE???
Do you read this stuff before you post it for the world to laugh at, or do you outsource your editing to China? Seriously. Not a day goes by when I don't catch a half dozen of your screwups in less than 30 minutes on your site.
Shameful.
I 2nd that!
Mr. Levine,
When you consider our curent drought conditions, using the Camel police is very practical. They can travel miles without water even at Lake Geneida. (editing outsourced to Egypt)
Maybe they should outsource their editing to China.
Mr Cafe you should swim well ,living in a van down by the river.
joseph-733717,
Do you work for the Camel Police? Where did you get this information? And who does your outsourced editing?
Who wants to place bets she was electrocuted or some freakish accident. The bozo who said maybe the 6yr old drowned her.. SERIOUSLY? That have to be one big kid or one weak adult! This is just sad.. poor little girl. I cant even imagine how this will impact her future.
It was media hype and over sensationalized to report the girl floating on a corpse. By definition it was correct, but it didn't need to be reported that way. If a person has just drowned, it should be reported as a drowning victim. the word "corpse" makes people read the article because it sounds more gruesome, but it also indicates a body that has been in the water more than a few minutes and indicates decomposition in people's minds.
Corpse..."By definition it was correct..." Word police - pull over.
Really, Orthehighway, aren't you being a tad picayune?
Saving a child from drowning has got to be the best use of a corpse that I've ever heard of.
are working with the Camel Police ? Come on....
I must remember that in a pinch, a corpse makes a nice flotation device.
It would be inconvenient, however, to bring a corpse with me when I go fishing.
You don't have to bring a corpse with you, just keep telling them exciting fishing stories and they'll die of boredom.