This woman gives "bridezilla" a bad name.

tatersalad--I know you meant this as a joke, but tell that to the passengers on the three planes on 9-11.

Does anyone else wonder what's happened in this World??? I'm in my mid fiflties and when I did something wrong, I got my a** beat. I didn't consider myself abused...just wrong. Did I learn...yes. Did I do it again...no. LESSON LEARNED! She didn't do it on "purpose"???. What she stabbed him TWICE by accident?

No responsible adult would ever own an assault knife of this nature!

Don't get me started on concealable knives with multiple blades!

When will the knife violence end?

wburnes.. ummm what? Can you please rephrase and put it in a language that the rest of us could understand.

Na Cola??? seriously??

Ten bucks says the DA offers her early parole with time served in exchange for an insanity plea.

We live in a world of automatic resets; video games have imbued us with immortality. When we quit punishing our children, showing them that things can hurt us, then we failed our children. (I'm not saying abuse, I'm saying a swat across the behind hurts.) When we get so angry that we must physically attack someone, we are saying that we are not smart enough to figure out OUR problem--we have no critical thinking skills.

"I didn't mean to kill him." Then, what did you mean? You took a weapon, stabbed it into his heart, and say, "I didn't mean it." Sorry, no excuse. I live in the real world, and I'm fed up with people who don't. Do whatever the law allows, but remove this stupid piece of trash from society. I'm done with the lame excuses and "it's all about me" mindset.

If we would have had "knife control laws", she would have just used a "Chinese made sawed off food processor" or a "mail order Russian beat peeler". It's not the knife that kills it's the "perforated organ" on the end that kills.

"I ... did … not … kill … him … on … purpose,"

But...it's...still...murder...!

EBONICS?? Isn't a real language, it's just lazy people trying to show there disapproval of "Da man!!" It's just ignorant like wearing your pants to your butt cheeks...let's not encourage stupid by playing stupid...OK!

The rest of us find no humor or amuzement in trying to discipher what you call Ebonics the rest of us don't relate to or want to for that matter

Someone at MSN does not know their Pennsylvania geography too well. The map with the article shows Whitehall Township out near Pittsburgh. This stabbing took place in the town of Whitehall, next to Allentown, in Lehigh County, which is on the other end of the state. I do, however, understand the error, as there is a Whitehall near Pittsburgh.

This lady makes the Bridezilla girls look like angels.

Mjolnir-889746

You actually believe the 9-11 Commission Report on how the events of that day unfolded?

No, I believe the victims of flight 93 as they called their loved ones to say goodbye!

LETS ROLL!

They're going there to show their disapproval.

First of all, Boffer, none of my friends nor my family members talk like this whenever you get through. And second of all what black person do you know that talks like this honestly? I mean really. I damn sure dont talk like this and I dont know anyobody else in my community that does. So you just showed how ignorant you really are. And another thing the aritcle never stated their ethnicity or race so she could be white. There are white women who have names just like black women so please dont go there.

Mjolnir-889746

You actually believe the 9-11 Commission Report on how the events of that day unfolded?

actually...most normal, well-adjusted people do

sweetcancer2485 said:

"And another thing the aritcle never stated their ethnicity or race so she could be white."

I'm sorry - I have been as annoyed by all of the people trying to speak ghetto here as you have, and pull out racial stereotypes that really only reflect a small lower income subset of the community as a whole; but let's be honest - no white people name their children "Na Cola". What the hell sort of name is that supposed to be?

Is it supposed to be a "cute" variant on Nicole? If so, it's not cute - it's REALLY STUPID!

As much as it sucks to have to say it, statistics does show that if somebody has such a convoluted made up name, they are probably ghetto; and that name does shout out African American. Sorry but it's true.

White folks trying to make up "cute" names call them crap like Hunter or Madison or Trig, not "Na Cola".

Ban all knives. Next, forks and spoons. Let people eat with their fingers. Another life lost from a dangerous weapon.

Don't forget the ubiquitous fast-food "sporks" there, ace. Liberalism should have us all locked up for our own safety and the safety of others. We might do something bad, so therefore preemptive measures need to be taken (aka Minority Report).

Mjolnir-889746 - You actually believe the 9-11 Commission Report on how the events of that day unfolded?

Do you hear the sound of black helicopters hovering over your head there, you poor thing? Loosen up that tin foil on your head a little.

Guns don't kill people. People killl people.

he never watched...funky brewster...

Does this mean the wedding's off?

That's what happens when the groom questions the bride's choice of color and style of napkin during the reception. Future grooms-to-be, take note. Never ever question anything your beloved bride-to-be wants. It's her wedding. It won't necessarily be her first one, but it's her wedding. As the groom, you're extrastrenuous to the whole affair, just as her other future husbands will be.

And now for the honeymoon...................

AmericanPauper, given the use of the term "broad" those women did right to run away from you. What? Thousands of years of men calling women sluts, saying hell no that baby aint mine, I didn't sleep with her and skipping out on duties to your children finally caught up to you men, tough @!$%# if you got taken for a ride in court, women got the short end of the stick (pun intended) for thousands of years with no recourse we just had to take it. We didn't even have message boards to whine about it like you do. This woman took it too far however, she should be executed for stabbing someone to death.

The violence will only stop when we stop having more concern for the perpetrators than for the victims. No plea bargains, 1 appeal, no insanity defense, and swift executions. Right now there is no fear of our judicial system which is rife with corruption, incompetence, and slick lawyers who are lower than whale ****.

I guess that set of steak knives wasn't such a great idea for a wedding gift!!!!

I already posted this down below, but I think this information is something to consider when tragedies like this occur.

I was thinking she might be on SSRIs. She told the Judge(local online news) she wanted her family back and to go home. She also sobbed that she didn't mean to kill him. It could be that she had a manic episode. This happens very often with people prescribed SSRIs.

The bottom line overall here: antidepressants may carry much more risk for people with bipolar disorder than is generally recognized. That antidepressants can cause "switching", bringing on a manic or hypomanic phase, is generally accepted, although how often this occurs is still hotly debated (somewhere between 4% and 40% of the time?).

http://www.psycheducation.org/bipolar/controversy.htm

You can go there to read the varying studies. Remember however most, but not all, drug studies are done by the pharmaceutical companies or contracted out by them.

"The studies in this section confirm that the risk of antidepressant suicidality is not limited to children, youth, and young adults, but encompasses all ages."

B. Antidepressant-Induced Mania in Adults

A considerable body of research demonstrates that the newer antidepressants frequently cause mania in varying degrees. Mania is associated with loss of impulse control, violence and suicide. ...

I am Peter R. Breggin, MD, a psychiatrist in private practice in Washington, DC, for several decades and now in Ithaca, New York. In the early 1990s I became the first physician to speak and write extensively about the new antidepressants causing violence, suicide and other abnormal behavioral reactions. I became the scientific expert for more than one hundred combined cases against Eli Lilly concerning Prozac-induced violence and suicide, and wrote many related books and scientific articles. In 2004 the FDA finally upgraded the warnings for all antidepressant drugs. The FDA’s language was virtually borrowed from one of my scientific publications (Breggin, 2003), which the agency had provided to each member of its review committee....

The FDA’s new warnings provide a consensus of FDA-appointed experts. For convenience, I will cite the October 2008 FDA-approved label for Zoloft. The warnings are similar or identical to the other antidepressants. The Zoloft label begins at the top with the following Black Box bold warning:

Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs

Antidepressants increased the risk compared to placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. Anyone considering the use of Zoloft or any other antidepressant in a child, adolescent, or young adult must balance this risk with the clinical need. …

The black box is followed by a lengthy warning section ominously entitled Clinical Worsening and Suicide Risk. It states:

The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric.

http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3991

This website also has a list of violence and murders by people on or coming off of SSRIs. Most of the time national news doesn't give follow up stories which usually have more details. I've notice many news stories of late are bereft of details.

"I ... did … not … kill … him … on … purpose," she said, choking out the words one at a time between sobs.

Lemme guess, he ran into your knife 10 times?

just call the wedding off for cryin out loud!!!! i guess this way she saves herself the embarrassment of having to tell every one she changed her mind!

Just proves that people intent on doing harm don't need a gun to do it.

For the white people on here making snide remarks that think there aren't white girls out there with what most white Americans perceive as "black" names, I dated an Australian girl named NaCola and a German girl named LaTasha back in the day. Guess what? They both were white!

I'm certain that this will be appearing on ID Discovery's "HAPPILY NEVER AFTER" or "WHO THE BLEEP DID I MARRY?"

nice to know the world is still crazy

31-year-old woman killed her fiance on their wedding day.

Mercy Killing.

I figured it out when I heard that they were planning to get married in a few hours, it was a mercy killing!

Dang Working Poor, you beat me by 1 minute!

Oh well. just think of all the pain and suffering he was spared.

I was so looking forward to a big slice of wedding cake... Dang...

"I ... did … not … kill … him … on … purpose,"

The Hollywood violence influence. Where's Willie and the anti gun crowd?

zapper45701, maybe she got her butt beaten a lot when she was a kid. Maybe that's all she knew while growing up was that if you want to get someone's attention, you have to use violence.

I remember a teacher who enjoyed using the paddle on boys. Pervert.

Obviously she meant to do him serious harm. You stab someone it's going to do damage, what the hell did she think it was going to do? Just poke him a bit?

where does race come in when it comes to killings, the colo. maniac who enjoys a good movie looks white to me, what about the very white and crazy one who killed a little girl and shot a congress woman and last but certainly not least the sweet and very caucasian little beauty who killed her daughter so she could continue to party and oh yeah have more illegimate children to kill in the future.color has no monoply on killers. racist ignorant people, you embarrass poor white trash.

wtf are people talking about spanking? where in the article did you find that to be a relevant topic? and yes it is gross to spank kids, sexual even and i am glad they can't do it in schools anymore because it is sickening.as for the topic at hand. those of you that say these things occur because there are no public executions sicken me too. who would seriously bet that savage that they would want to watch ANYONE die. your a sick individual and obviously have no idea about how mental conditions come into play in murder cases. do you really think a sane individual would do anything like that? hell no. they don't commit crimes because they don't fear consequence. murder is done by impulsive,sociopathic people with no copings skills. they simply disconnect themselves from reality and consequence and honestly don't care at that point about punishment. you are deluded if you believe different.

Jest wonderin'...is this sister and this bro, A-A's? Hit shore 'plain lots if'n da bes A-A's. Dis girl dun smelt anuther woman and he wuz goin' down!

Does anyone here speak dumb-ass? I can't understand a word of what he said

I don't know what disturbs me more.How many are making fun of this situation or how easy it is for so many to summarily condemn another person before finding out all the circumstances in this obviously very sad case. If you found out tomorrow her future husband was attacking her would that change your minds? of course! So why not wait until you know the whole story before sticking her in front of the firing squad?

Seems to me there was story recently where a guy was tried in the public for shooting a "boy" who had done nothing only later it turned out the shooter was apparently being beat up even if he had made some poor choices leading up to that. That case is still being on going. But the outrage and conclusions drawn were all one sided until evidence came out painting a different story. Including that the "boy" was in fact a man taller than the shooter and had broken the man's nose before he was shot.

How fast we folks judge without the facts, must think we are all knowing and smart. Like neighbors who are standing over fences coming to an agreement on everything. Feeling proud we have answers to who did what and and why things turned out the way they did.With our acquired wisdom and vast life experiences we are fit to pass judgment. Yet has anyone else noticed what these stories are doing to us? They're revealing our true nature inside as individuals. How judgmental and how merciful we really are as we react to them and to each other. There have been other cultures which use tragic events as teaching moments to help their people grow and prevent such future suffering. If we should ever have something terrible happen in our lives, becoming the focus everyone in the country then let's hope we're shown a lot more mercy then is the norm. Judging from forums like this we would be in an awful state for sure.

Somebody just got cold feet...........

WHEW!!!!!!!

Boy, am I glad I didn't get them that knife set they wanted on their registry.

Wow, reading comprehension has dropped again. Somedays, I really wonder about our population. But then again, we have the bridezilla who thinks that stabbing someone in the heart is just an everyday occurrence. We are a very sad lot of folks.

Actions have consequences--good and bad alike. People need to learn the difference between the two (good and bad). It doesn't seem to have soaked in during their upbringing. (BTW--for those with these moral issues and reading comprehension problems--killing someone, just because you are angry, is on the "bad" list.)

I hate wedding cake too.

Why is it called PMS? Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken!

I guess this gives new meaning to "getting cold feet"!!!

"I ... did … not … kill … him … on … purpose," she said, choking out the words one at a time between sobs.

I was just cleaning my knife and it went off

So... she killed someone. Now comes the hard questions: Is she pretty? If she's pretty, there's a high chance she can get away with it. Pretty women have gotten away with butchering husbands, poisoning boyfriends, and murdering babies.

If you can't tell, I'm carefully watching this case, as most women who commit murder get a slap on the wrist compared to what happens to men who do it. I'm hoping justice is served, but I'm not holding my breath on this one. Make me proud, humanity.

This is what happens when a groom drops a last-min. prenuptial agreement on the bride.

Dumpster Diver, your comment amused me. You trashed ebonics, but in doing so you wrote like an idiot. You have run-on sentences and you can't spell words with more than two syllables.

Perhaps the woman was defending herself against an abuser who was beating the living crap out of her. While everyone is making jokes, anyone ever think she was possibly being assaulted at the time she stabbed him?

So, just to confirm, Gays are destroying the sanctity of marriage, right?

She did not kill him on purpose, was it foreplay?

So, she did not mean to kill him on purpose. Does that mean she meant to kill him by accident? What outcome DID she expect stabbing the guy?

She could just have been trying to remove an annoying meat-head that had grown to enormous proportions.

Yo KevinH, you prob'ly is not da sharpest shank in da drawer ta not recognize ebonix as such. However, keep working at it. ah'll type slowly so if you read slowly it will come ta you. deez two nuptials wuz ta be wed, yet in da society dey wuz ta be wedded in, dere iz disfunctional element called da cut, stab or smoke what you may be offended by, be it family, groom or whatever. is we's on da same page? If she had had uh gat, he would gots been smok'd. dere wuz uh transgression, deemed by her ta be serious enough ta take Home Boy's life by stabbing him ta deaf. Da bros an sisters will cry an' wail an' demand justice. Maybe Jesse an' Al could attend ta console da family an' return da wedding gifts ta da donors or take dem fo' themselves. If what has been written, has not cleared da waters, so ta speak, you just don' git da program o' black on black crime in America this day. Clue: Na Cola...Nashia, Tameka, Shantel,...it's dere fo' you ta peep at an' learn from. It will come ta uh theater near you soon! otay buh-weet

Kate Indigo

I already posted this down below, but I think this information is something to consider when tragedies like this occur.

I was thinking she might be on SSRIs. She told the Judge(local online news) she wanted her family back and to go home. She also sobbed that she didn't mean to kill him. It could be that she had a manic episode. This happens very often with people prescribed SSRIs.

Eh, just off the psychos and problem solved. We'd save a lot of money and a lot of letters for "diagnosing" those with SSPTRWXYTZTGS's.

Just Wrong

So, she did not mean to kill him on purpose. Does that mean she meant to kill him by accident? What outcome DID she expect stabbing the guy?

My guess is that she was so pissed at him that she wanted to do more than just break up with him. Sometimes people will threaten to make it look like they are more tough than they really are, without the intent to kill. The problem is you can't control how someone will react to a threat. Perhaps she pulled out the knife to act all hard and scary and the guy called her bluff, or didn't take her seriously enough. She probably didn't intend to stab him, but the act of simply pulling out the knife with the knowledge that it could do bodily harm instantly makes her solely responsible.

She will either get convicted of voluntary manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.

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.....TO those of you arguing about race -

SO THE F*#@ WHAT???? Who cares if she was black or white? From the ghetto or the country club doesn't matter. Crimes of passion exist everywhere. But congrats to you all!!! Through the power of critical thinking you are able to deduce the probability that she is black based simply on her name. There is a 75% that you are correct. Now quickly jet off to Europe and pat yourselves on the back for being able to deduce that women named "Heidi" are most likely German. Got any other brilliant theories we can publish for everyone to be amazed at????

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Perhaps the woman was defending herself against an abuser who was beating the living crap out of her. While everyone is making jokes, anyone ever think she was possibly being assaulted at the time she stabbed him?

Considering that this story has been going on for some time, and it's never been mentioned (even by the psycho "Norma" Bates) that there was any abuse, I'd say no.

Fry her and send the wedding presents back (including the set of steak knives).

The guy in the Dr suit. You callin me out?? I'm from up north, not the south, as you "rednecks" like to call us, by the way, I'M 6'1 250LBS. care to meet somewhere big boy?? I'd slap that pretty boy look right off your face. I'm not jokin.. I back up my words...Not on internet, on the streets...

Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband, to stab and to hold, till death do you part?...I DO!!!

WOW didn't mean to kill him , well what did she mean to do if she didn't mean too kill him?

If it's really that important to everyone to know her race, click on the link in the story. There's a picture of her. Can we drop that now?

How the heck do you stab someone through the heart by accident?

Man what a crazy, messed up story. I know it sounds bad, but as I was reading this, I kept picturing the woman as being the girl from the "Overly Attached Girlfriend" meme. Yeeesh. Just makes everyone wanna go and get married, right?

If she waited a bit longer, could have used the "til death do you depart" line, have more meaning doesn't it?

dumpsterdiver-2513327

EBONICS?? Isn't a real language, it's just lazy people trying to show there disapproval of "Da man!!" It's just ignorant like wearing your pants to your butt cheeks...let's not encourage stupid by playing stupid...OK!

The rest of us find no humor or amuzement in trying to discipher what you call Ebonics the rest of us don't relate to or want to for that matter

LMAO! First off, you don't speak for everyone, so you should have said, "I find no humor...". Then your grammar critique falls apart with atrocious spelling and punctuation; it's "amusement" and "decipher". I won't point out where the punctuation is needed, but this is a classic case of "the pot calling the kettle"!

The Ebonics was actually easier to read, to be honest.

Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband, to stab and to hold, till death do you part?...I DO!!!

One right in the heart and one to make sure, case closed for the excuse it was a impluse reaction. She should have been a Runaway Bride........

Speaking of movies.. this reminds me of Chicago during the 'Cellblock Tango' where one woman claimed that her husband ran into her knife 10 times.. do you think this was the case here? Only two times.. Just a thought..

It's hard to run into a knife 10 times when you run into it heart-first...the first time.

It is sad, but I knew this story would draw some humorous posts.

She's a woman...they aren't responsible for anything here, didn't ya hear?

Gee, AmPaup - You sound a little bitter...

Hey guys, just a little man lesson. When your woman says "do I look fat in this?" Say "no honey, you look great". trust me, you will live longer.

Christy -

You are a sick puppy! I say that as one myself - I figured she would end up with a lawyer who would claim the dude ran into the knife twice. Guess he just had better aim than the dude in the movie.

Sad commentary on our society, I guess.

None of us knows exactly what happened that led up to her stabbing him. Obviously they were 'fighting'. Perhaps he was attacking her or threatening her, and she grabbed the knife as self defense and didn't intend to kill him? Why not wait until there is more information before jumping to conclusions? The sad thing is that their kids are now without both parents.

Kids with no parents are nothing new in the Allentown area. I used to live 25+ miles south of there and avoided that place like the plague. Allentown is rat-infested- two legged and four legged rats.

Everyone quick to just to the aid of a murderer. By the way take Georges advise.

For those bashing on Christy-

Her comment is spurred from a movie called CHICAGO. Actually it's a Broadway musical that they turned into a movie some years ago. There is a musical number number called "Cell Block Tango" where a woman describes her husband "ran into her knife...ten times."

She's not sick, it's just song lyrics from a musical.

Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband, to stab and to hold, till death do you part?...I DO!!!

i'm guessing he waited too long when she asked, "does this wedding dress make my ass look fat?"

didn't have a Twix handy?

williered - Or, something he did?

Or she's just a crazy bitch.

If it was in New York, Mayor Bloomberg would outlaw all knives. Things like this seem to be happening more and more. Maybe it was drugs. Who knows.

Hey guys, just a little man lesson. When your woman says "do I look fat in this?" Say "no honey, you look great". trust me, you will live longer.

Just what I was thinking Numb3r Tech. Drugs is always my first thought when senseless violence lilke this is in the news. She was on a three day bender, already on edge from the upcoming wedding, add the come-down and the even shorter fuse that comes with it, fiance says something she doesn't like, she grabs a knife, and that's game over for this guy. I knew a guy who was stabbed over 25 times all over his body - people intended to kill him - he DID NOT DIE - and they knew what they were doing. She probably just wanted to hurt him, because she only stabbed twice.

bridezilla on steroids.

Honestly I don't think Bloomberg would ban all knives...I think he would ban weddings instead.

Except Gay weddings......

@dslodge: Not if they were gay!

Maybe she was mad because he axxed her who the daddies were of the three children she already had.

Lizzie - that was pretty idiotic. Thanks

Health minds don't make the news as much as the mentally disturbed. The insanity plea is way, way overused and accepted.

No, this is not mental illness. What we see today is the culmination of the Dr. Spock generation gap. When parents were told not to use spankings as discipline the children got a upperhand, when the schools started telling kids to turn in their parents for abuse if they got spanked "Big Brother" moved into our homes. The problem is not mental illness, it is lack of teaching the golden rule and reinforcing it with a firm hand.

Rayvar -

I'm surprised you haven't been excoriated yet for your accurate comment The good Dr. Spock himself apologied to the public shortyly before his death.

No consequences for actions - this is what we get!

I'm sure i would be incarcerated somewhere if i didn't get my a$$ busted when i was a child , if you used a switch now on a child you would go to jail .

My way of disciplining my teenage child (I used this method or one similar from my child's toddler years on) is much crueler than anything that quack 'Dr. Spock" advocated. I take away things my child enjoys, like T.V. (which means he loses his Xbox, PS3 and DVD player too) and force 'him' to earn them back by doing book reports, doing more chores around the house or turning a grade lower than an "A" on grade higher ( example, if his English grade is a "B" into an "A"). That way 'HE' is responsible for his own punishment. If he does nothing, he earns nothing back. The choice is his.

Spankings are too easy, in my opinion. Most teens (or frankly children) don't respond. I'll be damn if I listened to that quack advocating no discipline, you are right, this IS, at least part of, the reason our society is in a downward spiral.

According to "old values", you are supposed to marry the woman you knock up. Right?

Actually you are supposed to marry a woman, then knock her up. Old Values

Actually, you're supposed to purchase the woman, marry her, then knock her up. Old values.

Actually you were supposed to purchase the girl from her father, marry her as a teen, consumate the marriage (with or without her permission), beat her, then force her to breed until she dies.

Old values.

Same can be said for men.

Sounds like my mom.

Maybe you gave her just cause.

And you deduced all of that from where?

Gee, midnight--the risk of death for a WOMAN is most likely to be her being Murdered by her spouse/significant other.

I don't think that holds true for men.

Your wife MIGHT be a freakazoid. But here's the deal, you might want to look in the mirror before getting involved in another relationship.

Biotches normally GET that way out of frustration.

Andrew--I think you are exactly right to stay away from women. You'll do them all a favor.

MOmaid - you said it so much better than I could have. These men who are so critical of former wives and girlfriend don't seem to realize that they are not God's gift to womankind. After all, he married her, so he must have thought that she was a wonderful person at some point.

Andrew61 - you sound like a real gem. If this woman was so terrible, why did you hang around long enough to discover everything about her that you mentioned? There is something wrong with any man who is still a virgin at 51.

As a woman I can say this : if my husband gets me to a point I become a crazy biotch - I LEAVE!! That's what you are supposed to do. Why stay to get more angry?? At some point it is your own fault for being so angry and bitchy.

@Andrew-Any guy that talks about himself in the third person, has one encounter in 51 years with someone of the opposite sex, uses the internet to find that special someone,and has never had sex with another human is not cut out for the dating seen. Case dismissed.

@Janelyn, Scales67, and MoMaid, I gree with everything you all said. You all's comments were hilarious Janelyn and and MoMaid. Yall have definietly given me me a much need laughter. Thanks for the levity. On a seroius note, I really hate this happened. This is really tragic.

And to the ones that said we need knife control laws, I totally disagree. And to the person that stated you dont need a knife thats longer than half an inch, I totally disagree with you. You need all diffenrent kinds of knifes if you are a cook. They all serve a purpose when youre in the kitchen cooking and have some foods that needs longer and sharper knives in order to be cut and served. Knives are necessary tools for cooking and cutting things open. However, I dont think they should be used for any other puposes than these. I feel the exact same way about guns. We do not need gun control laws because I believe every person should have the right to defend themselves by any means necessary. I think people need to learn how to control their temper and have personal relationships with Christ who will help regulate their minds and help them control their temper. This is all I have to say.

Sounds like midnight has met andrew's sister already.

Madness !

When I wonder why I don't bother trying to date, all I have to do is look at the comments I see from men on the internet...

Andrew you need to get out more

Gee... look at the bitter judgmental women here. Criticizing a man for having bad luck with women or that he is a virgin. I am beginning to understand why many men have given up on dating altogether. Western women are such spoiled trash.

J-Stat, not all men are like these posters, believe it or not there are good men and women out there, unfortunately they are the quiet ones.

David5000 - what part of the world to you come from? This Western woman would like to know. I have a feeling . . . no wait, can't say that.

Who cares if she is? what difference does it make?

@David White-4446226.........seriously?? what does it matter? Call her up and get aquainted...lets see how long YOU last.

Invisible Hand,

In one way you are right, her fiance is now dead. On the other hand, if she truly is/was ill, she should have been getting therapy. It is a very sad, unfortunate situation. It's hard to imagine killing someone she was about to marry and harder to understand knowing they had children together.

I was thinking she might be on SSRIs. She told the Judge(local online news) she wanted her family back and to go home. She also sobbed that she didn't mean to kill him. It could be that she had a manic episode. This happens very often with people prescribed SSRIs.

The bottom line overall here: antidepressants may carry much more risk for people with bipolar disorder than is generally recognized. That antidepressants can cause "switching", bringing on a manic or hypomanic phase, is generally accepted, although how often this occurs is still hotly debated (somewhere between 4% and 40% of the time?).

http://www.psycheducation.org/bipolar/controversy.htm

You can go there to read the varying studies. Remember however most, but not all, drug studies are done by the pharmaceutical companies or contracted out by them.

"The studies in this section confirm that the risk of antidepressant suicidality is not limited to children, youth, and young adults, but encompasses all ages."

B. Antidepressant-Induced Mania in Adults

A considerable body of research demonstrates that the newer antidepressants frequently cause mania in varying degrees. Mania is associated with loss of impulse control, violence and suicide. ...

I am Peter R. Breggin, MD, a psychiatrist in private practice in Washington, DC, for several decades and now in Ithaca, New York. In the early 1990s I became the first physician to speak and write extensively about the new antidepressants causing violence, suicide and other abnormal behavioral reactions. I became the scientific expert for more than one hundred combined cases against Eli Lilly concerning Prozac-induced violence and suicide, and wrote many related books and scientific articles. In 2004 the FDA finally upgraded the warnings for all antidepressant drugs. The FDA’s language was virtually borrowed from one of my scientific publications (Breggin, 2003), which the agency had provided to each member of its review committee....

The FDA’s new warnings provide a consensus of FDA-appointed experts. For convenience, I will cite the October 2008 FDA-approved label for Zoloft. The warnings are similar or identical to the other antidepressants. The Zoloft label begins at the top with the following Black Box bold warning:

Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs

Antidepressants increased the risk compared to placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. Anyone considering the use of Zoloft or any other antidepressant in a child, adolescent, or young adult must balance this risk with the clinical need. …

The black box is followed by a lengthy warning section ominously entitled Clinical Worsening and Suicide Risk. It states:

The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric.

http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3991

This website also has a list of violence and murders by people on or coming off of SSRIs. Most of the time national news doesn't give follow up stories which usually have more details. I've notice many news stories of late are bereft of details.

She told the Judge(local online news) she wanted her family back and to go home. She also sobbed that she didn't mean to kill him. It could be that she had a manic episode. This happens very often with people prescribed SSRIs.

Please! It also happens to people who get drunk and do stupid things then sober-up.

So what? Do you think a man would get any sympathy if he was "depressed" and stabbed his fiancee? Hell no. He'd be drawn and quartered before trial. Even if she "deserved" it as so many other posters are insinuating that he did.

Why is it called PMS? Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken!

Fact is people on these psychoactive drugs will go off the handle. It is no where near the same as getting drunk and doing something stupid. Being drunk makes you lose inhibitions. SSRIs can make a docile person aggressive and a non suicidal person suicidal. All that info is in the links I provided. That's why I provide them, so people can look into this stuff for themselves. If you took the time to inform yourselves in the links provided, you'd find out that many, MANY, people have gotten off due to being on or coming off of SSRIs. In almost every mass shooting the shooter was on or coming off an SSRI. Did you not read the Zoloft insert quoted above?

The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric.

It can cause people to become agitated, irritable, HOSTILE and AGGRESSIVE, mixed with IMPULSITIVITY, and hypomania/mania!!! And it can occur in people who were given the drug for psychiatric and NON-psychiatric reasons. And that is from the insert!! This is my point. I think Americans are not aware entirely, if at all, of the problems associated with anti-depression drugs aka SSRIs. It seems as though she went off the handle without any real intention to kill, according to her. It seems she diffidently intended to harm, but not to kill. I just thought I would put this possibility into the discussion.

Here's some of the cases compiled by Peter Breggin, MD.

http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=info&p=

*16 Year Old Stabs 15 Year Old: Will Be Tried in Youth Court Because of Bad Reaction to Prozac

*Coed at Wellesley Found Not Guilty Due to Celexa Antidepressant Use: Stabbed Boyfriend 8 times

*Eight Dead in Nursing Home: Jury Spares Death Penalty Due to Medications

*Jury Finds Celexa Cause of Murder-Suicide: Two Physicians Testify: Foundation Demands Action

*Man Found Not Guilty Due to Psychosis Caused by Zoloft

*Man Found Not Guilty of Killing Wife While Sleepwalking

*Man Found Not Guilty Using Zoloft Defense

*Man Found Not Guilty: Used Zoloft Defense

*Man Released From Prison Hospital Because his Murders Were Caused by Psychosis From Depression Med

*Mother Stabs Daughter: Not Guilty by Reason of Drug Induced Insanity

*Not Guilty by Reason of Cymbalta Induced Insanity: Man Kills Wife

*Wife Given Probation After Stabbing Husband Over 200 Times: Rage Caused by Meds

*Woman Acquitted in Stabbing Incident

*Woman Stabs Boyfriend: Used Prozac Defense: Placed on Probation

And these are cases from all over the world. And yes sickenedvet plenty of men got off because of the meds. Not because they were depressed, missed the point entirely there, but because the drugs themselves cause induced violence.

++ SSRIs & SNRIs, & Chantix, Have Highest Rate of Homicides/Violence of All Medications: PLoS

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0015337

Can you imagine what the divorce proceedings would have been like?

Yeah, good thing it happened before they wed. It's a heartbreak to see a widow sent to jail.

She could have just said "no" and gone on her merry way.

Perhaps she could use the "stand your ground" defense...

In this case I would call it the "stab your groom" defense...

He probably had it coming to him. I'll bet money that he was carrying a bag of skittles and was walking around the stairwell in an overly menacing way while drinking iced tea. I bet he was also going to change into a hoodie after he had to take his tux back. I know the type. If you look back at his elementary school record, he probably had an overdue library book and had unpure thoughts. Best to be proactive about these things don't you think? Maybe she should set up a website and ask for money.

"Ahem...Yes, judge, he fell onto the dagger..."

She's gonna use the "he called me fat defence"

She could have been baking him a cake and he got so excited he ran over to give her a great big hug, twice.

Kelly--depends. The story is early. If it comes out later that he regulary beat her or the kids up, she can easily go for diminished capacity.

As to those who say the second blow proves intent to kill? Not if the first one didn't STOP him from, say, attacking her.

I didn't see anything that says which blow was struck first.

I love how you automatically assume he beat her. you must think no woman can do any wrong in this world and that everything is a mans fault.

Sad part of the situation................

Why with all the publicity, do partners not see that violence will always escalate.

HITTING PEOPLE YOU "LOVE" (OR STABBING) never gets better.

If you are reading this and have a partner who abuses you...please get help....YOU are the one who needs to realize you don't deserve it.

True love ain't painful.

Not entirely true...

The new gov passed a law making it legal to stand your ground on your own property... you can shoot/stab/beat/kill, etc. anyone on your property, inside or ourside, who poses a threat to you.

wow! I didn't know that. Thats good. Im glad they passed a law like that given us the right to defend ourselves on our property when we feel threatened or sombody poses a threat to us. This is a good thing. Its about time the government enacted laws where citizens could protect themselves from very dangerous individuals who trespass on their property. When was this passed?

@ Brian Ellison - andyou are assuming he was just innocently standing there, NOT threatening or attacking her. We don't know which way it happened, but some people are just making the point that don't know if she had a reason to stab him. I guess you must think that no woman is ever attacked by a man and kills him out of self-defense.

PA has the Castle Doctrine. She WAS in her own home.....

Guess she couldn't keep up the pretense of not being a psycho any longer. So close, she was almost home free too.

Or may be he wanted to back out at the last minute, sensing something wrong w/ her and she decided to prove his suspicion right.

JesterJames - You are such a misogynist. What makes you so certain that it is all her fault? Maybe he was sleeping around and see other women. That's no excuse for killing someone, but it just might have been something he did that pushed her over the edge instead of something being wrong with her.

If you kill someone for sleeping around on you there is something wrong with you.

@ dslodge it truly depends on the situation because if a man gave a woman a terminal std then that would be grounds for committing murder. It truly depends on the individual and the situation.

@Brian Ellison, she didnt say that he beat her. She said if it comes out later in the story that he beat her she could easily go for the diminshed capacity. You need to reread her comment. And it was never implied in anything she said that it was all his fault and none of hers, either. Nor that the man was always at fault.

We all know women can do wrong just like men can do wrong. Just like men can go crazy and kill their wives so can women. So i dont think thats what she was saying or implying at all.

I meant to add husbands after that so can women. Women can go crazy and kill their husbands.

She was supposed to be cutting the cake instead of him

If you are suggesting, or hoping, that this will end up like the OJ trial...don't hold your breath.

Where's the fun in that?

Yeah,.ram,your right,my husband beat me so bad on our honeymoon night,that my face looked like the elephant woman,if I would have been bigger and stronger I would have killed him,but he was a big man,it was in a holiday end in 1972 all because another man asked me to dance..So yeah she might have had a good reason.

... you have no idea if they already have kids.

ram - the article clearly states that they had been living with three children in their apartment for approximately a year.

who's kids scales67?

Dead Eagle - well, there are four choices as to whom the kids belong, Einstein. They are either his from previous relationships, hers from previous relationships, a combination of those two choices, or all kids that they had together. It would be highly unlikely that none of the three kids belonged to neither of them.

Actually, the article said the couple lived a year in the apartment with three children.

@ Ram: re: "...if they have kids..." Per haps it would behoove you to read the article AGAIN!

@Ram762581- I compleletey agree with some of the things you said. The article did state that they had three children so your facts are alittle off on that. But everything else I completely agree.

@JB1717005- Why did you have to go there? He didn't say anything to imply that he was hoping this turned out to be like the OJ simpson trial. Nor suggesting it. Why would you even bring that up? I really hope that was not a racist comment and you were just trying to be funny. And even if you were just tryna be funny, the joke was lost. It didn't go anywhere with anybody so please try again. And do us both of favor and reread his comments.

Linda from calif...

“...it was in a holiday end in 1972.” Holiday End? He obviously didn’t marry you for having any brains! (And here you are, forty years later, still proving it!)

Jim K-473590

Wow, you are obviously a heartless pathetic idiot for pointing out grammar mistakes after hearing a story of spousal abuse.

It makes me sad to know there are human beings out there with this much lack of compassion for others. You make me sick Jim K and I hope karma eventually comes around to get you!

Yes, I did miss that sentence...lol. Thanks for everyone pointing that out to me;) I was doing three things at once, and that's not a good idea.

But my point remains...we weren't there and we have no idea what happened. It will most likely come out and then another scrum can begin. The whole situation is awful...we'll see what happened...maybe. Whether they had kids or not doesn't comment on their character and many people aren't married and live together with kids. I'm just saying we don't know what happened at this point. I'm not excusing killing him at all...just waiting for more facts.

AJ Martens…

“It makes me sad to know there are human beings out there with this much lack of compassion for others.”

Yes, it makes you sad, but not sad enough to comment on all the other insensitive comments regarding the initial story…or any others, for that matter! If you’re so incensed, why did you select my comment and no one else’s? Mine was nothing, a mere drop in the bucket, compared to the 500+ “heartless pathetic” comments posted here…yet, you chose mine! Sounds like a case of selective “lack of compassion” from my point of view…but that’s right…I’m “a heartless pathetic idiot”, so what do I know!

Well, Jim K, recognizing that you have a problem is the first step, so good for you. Now what are you going to do about the fact that you're a 'heartless pathetic idiot'? Are there 12-step programs for you people? Oh, and the 'everyone else is being a douche so why pick on the fact that I'm being one' is such a brilliant defense.

jayberg...

It's my understand that the local Holiday End has various 12-step meetings they hold...maybe I'll check into it...one step at a time!

Or a cold heart.

Man that's cold...
I don't think Mr. Thanatos got the pun....

She broke his heart.

The bride cuts the cake... uh heart.

Well that's one way to avoid a divorce.....

No, we are becoming "Idiocracy"...

Sadly, I'm not even kidding.

Sugar, you're gonna have a whole lotta years to study anatomy and physiology so you know where to stick that knife next time !

I highly doubt she'll do any significant time in prison. If she were a man, it would be different. But, our legal system is so corrupt and favorably biased towards female criminals that she'll be out within ten years.

It's almost an incentive for women to commit crimes. Essentially, our law enforcement system is telling women the falling: Want to murder your husband? Just say he was "abusive" and you're off the hook! Want to molest the students you teach? Claim that the child wanted it, and that you could not - because you are the weaker sex - help yourself. Want to commit incest with your son that you haven't seen since he was born? Simply claim that you were compelled to do so because of "genetic attraction."

Koatz, your behind the times, courts are treating females more and more like males as far as sentencing goes

The answer to this whole sorry thing is obviously to outlaw individual ownership of knives.

And pointed sticks.

Where is Monty Python now that we really need them?