I disagree. I think it's an effective stalling tactic and a way to make the judge look like he shouldn't be presiding over this trial. All you have to do is raise doubt and some people (most) will form a biased opinion based on questions raised.

It was quite obvious they lied about how much money they had so the raise in bail and forfeiture of the 2nd passport was warranted. I'm sure they don't expect the judge to do anything but his job. This is all a chess game.

MAYBE it can be perceived as crossing the line when Lester accused Zimmerman of trying to flee based on his dishonesty over his finances. But that is it. Unless Lester was going to charge him with evading justice by leaving the country then there isn't any bias here. The million dollar bond was a fair adjustment considering you only have to pay 10% of it. That's $100k. Zimmerman raised $130K, so unless he was abusing those donations (which we can assume he is) then he had at least $30k left over.

You can't question a judge's objectivity based on an obvious ruling. Your client got caught in a lie, O'Mara. Accept it! "I didn't get my way" is not a legitimate reason for removing a judge.

But isn't it obvious why they are pushing so hard to do this? Zimmerman's old man was a judge. If they can get Lester replaced with one of Daddy's acquaintances then maybe the hearing or trial will go their way. It is the only reason a defense attorney would not be fearing the devil they don't know as a replacement. Any judge would look at Zimmerman funny at this point, and any judge who wouldn't should be cause for concern!

This appeal will be futile. Judge Lester's actions have been in accordance with the law.

This O'Mara trick is just to buy some more time.

I think this move by O'Mara is unethical.

As much as we all hate to see it, but O'Mara has an ethical duty to represent Zimmerman zealously, even if he flat out believes that Zimmerman is guilty as we all know him to be. But he owes Zimmerman the zealousness of any attorney to make the prosecutor prove every element of the crime against Zimmerman. The filing of the writ of prohibition is permitted but it will get them nowhere. As I have said before, O'Mara gets paid by the hour and his hourly rate is probably about $300 to $400 an hour. Now, if you sit down and calculate how much he earns if he spends just 8 hours on Zimmerman's case, you can see why he would spend time filing an appeal or writ of prohibition from Judge Lester's ruiling. Preparing an appeal or writ of prohibition requires at a minimum some legal research to be done on the issue to be raised. O'Mara may have a paralegal who earns about $75 to $100 an hour working on Zimmerman's case. Essentially, O'Mara would earn about $2,000 to $3,000 just trying to get the Judge off the case. If Zimmerman stops getting donations and is declared indigent, O'Mara only gets a fraction of what he would earn an hour if Zimmerman was not declared idigent. In other words, the Court could pay O'Mara about $75.00 an hour. Here is the Florida statute that governs the pay-rate: 27.5304 Private court-appointed counsel; compensation.

No matter what tricks O'Mara pulls, this time George Zimmerman will not get off the way he has in the past. Below are George's quotes from his MySpace page from 2005------

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http://www.myspace.com/onlytobekingagain

About me:

... I can hit my boy up to handle a lil somethin with my sister and he's at my house with his boys on bikes before i hang up with her! They do a year and dont ever open thier mouth to get my ass pinched...

Im still free! The ex hoe tried her hardest, but the judge saw through it! Big Mike, reppin the Dverse security makin me look a million bucks, broke her down! Thanks to everyone for checkin up on me! Stay tuned for the A.T.F. charges......

andGood news???? Bout Damn time!!!!!!!

2 felonies dropped to 1 misdemeanor!!!!!!!!!!! The man knows he was wrong but still got this hump, Thanks to everyone friends and fam, G baby you know your my rock!

O'Mara said this MySpace page of GZ--under name of JoeG--is authentic.

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Bragging about getting away with criminal behavior, and in getting his friends to take the fall for him? Hmmm....seems he did the same thing to his wife when he got her to lie for him and now face perjury charges. Not a very caring person, that George Zimmerman. Sounds pretty antisocial and narcissistic to me.

I wonder how those friends feel now.

GZ is givnem props for what they did. They feel rightously good.

You mean a bunch of thugs admitting to criminal behavior should feel good for being stupid enough to brag about it?

You are a disturbed young fellow.

They were used, CC. That is why you don't see them rallying around George in this case. Seems all those friends are avoiding him like the plague.

George's friend, Frank Taaffe, himself, INCRIMINATES GEORGE by saying

George was mad as hell and wasn't going to take it anymore!

devout wrote

First, you have to file a timely notice of appeal, then you have to wait months before the appellate court issue a briefing schedule; then after the briefs from both sides are filed and any reply, it will take months before the appellate court render a decision on the sole issue: whether or not Judge Lester abused his discretion in denying Zimmerman’s motion for recusal.

My guess is that, because this is such a high profile case, the appellate court will

expedite scheduling and then will make a decision in a timely manner.

I can't believe how many idiots there are posting on here. First of all there is no way George Zimmerman is on facebook bragging about getting away with a crime. No one can say that page is authentic. Second as one who is very familiar with the law, Yes the judge did cross a line when he accused George of trying to flee.Also by saying he should be tried for other crimes he committed. Absolutely not can a judge say that. NO WAY. Yes he can scald him for lying but he went beyond that.I guarantee it will be over turned and a new judge will be assigned.Also I do believe George was wrong for follow him, but had every right to defend himself when Trevon hit him. not one person could say Gz was racist in any way, on the contrary he actually helped black youths, however Trevon had all kind of racist and gang things on his my space and facebook. He was also stoned the night he slammed George's head into the ground. Reality is alot of people like me who feel people like Obama over stepped their authority. The only reason he was prosecuted was because of political pressure, and it will be a hung jury, because their are 1000's of people like me who feel GZ defended himself and is being unfairly treated. Watch HUNG JURY .

The judge over stepped and will have to step down, otherwise it is grounds for an immediate appeal. And before you say I am wrong I am more familiar with the law than most. guarantee it.

Sorry Misty316 but where did you read that TM was high that night? It's funny how people like to make up their own assessment of evidence. Basic reading comphrension. Just an FYI the judges can offer their opinion in thier rulings. Just as long as the ruling isn't fully based on their opinion.

Maybe you need to study the law more

Misty

Confirmation of authenticity of Zimmermans My Space Account!

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, confirmed the page was his client's, and that it was abandoned in 2005.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2778234/myspace-page-is-latest-salvo-in.html

I remember reading somewhere that it was actually last updated in 2007

And here is another

The 2005-dated page, confirmed as authentic Wednesday by Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, also mentions a 7-year-old domestic violence incident between Zimmerman and a former girlfriend, and the page includes several photos.

http://news.yahoo.com/old-george-zimmerman-myspace-page-surfaces-171820649.html

And just in case that is not good enough for you here is another....

Trayvon Martin, was the owner of an old Myspace page featuring slurs against Mexicans, his lawyer has confirmed to the Miami Herald.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/02/11503803-george-zimmermans-old-myspace-page-includes-slurs-against-mexicans?lite

Honestly, don't know how you could have missed this????

Here go read some more about it before you post again some foolishness....

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2778234/myspace-page-is-latest-salvo-in.html#storylink=cpyhttp://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/02/11503803-george-zimmermans-old-myspace-page-includes-slurs-against-mexicans?litehttp://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/02/11503803-george-zimmermans-old-myspace-page-includes-slurs-against-mexicans?lite

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2778234/myspace-page-is-latest-salvo-in.html#storylink=cpy

Are you kidding learn the law, i am a lawyer in Nevada dumbass. i know the law better than you, and please show me where Zimmermans attorney confirmed it was his my space . A reputable site please.

@ ms HTC Here's just one web site with proof he was on drugs

Trayvon Martin had 1.5 nanograms of THC and 7.3 nanograms of another THC substance. Both of those were found in blood in his chest. Traces of cannabis were also found in his urine.

Also Several sites have shown Trevon was very racist and sold drugs. He was not so innocent.

In March, conservative bloggers discovered Trayvon had a Twitter account, where he looked older and wore gold covers on his teeth. He often retweeted crude jokes riddled with foul language and posted offensive lyrics to popular rap songs.

His family claims his email was hacked by white supremacist although most of the material found there was related to . Several other widely circulated photos that appeared to show Trayvon looking like a thug. Other sites posted screen grabs of a few comments Trayvon’s friends made on Facebook and Twitter that they interpreted to suggest that the dead teen sold marijuana and was violent.

Read more here: #storylink=cpy

I guess if his Family can claim all his sites were hacked and pictures photo shopped, and all his friends lied. then GZ site was hacked too. LMFAO the kid was a gangster, and racist. The only people GZ were racist too were mexicans.

MISTY

try not to be 18 WEEKS LATE dumbass, the fact that you have somehow just decided to get on newsvine and act like you know something that hasnt allready been KNOWN to most any one who pays half ways attention is complete silliness and just allows you to stroke your ego.

as a lawyer the first thing you know --- IS THAT MARTIN reputation is not an issue for the court to take into account. The 2nd thing you know that any toxicalogy screen is just that, a work up done on anyone, that dies so that , no matter what amount was in martins system does not OFF-SET THAT CHOICES that zimmerman made that night.

as a lawyer you also know that all you get is your reputation, and for you to think that YOU have helped NEVEDA look any better then you are a fool.

the factors that matter most, are actions on zimmerman part and the lack of legal authority to interfere with martin in any way on private property.

as a lawyer you know that public land rights and private land rights to a member of the public change, and thus you would not want us to think you a dumb ass, by you suggesting that zimmerman had any reasonable suspision to act on while on private property which he did not own.

now you wouldnt want to be that dumbass to suggest he did, when YOU AS A LAWYER know he was not hired as security and he was not paid by twin lakes in any management capisty which would allow for him to enforce any rules or expectations in the common area of twin lakes where martin was located.

So how you FEEL ABOUT THIS is fine and dandy but what you know to be true assuming your a lawyer with -(cough cough wheez snicker) INTEGRITY, is that, you know zimmerman will have a hard time showing that his choices would be what a jury will consider reasonable before during or after his contact with martin when no illegal violation occured(citizens arrest form) or twin lakes policys were voilated.

So try not to reply like a dumbass thanks--

CJfromMN

That was such an excellent post!!! I totally agreed with you on every point, but especially so on that very last part! It was brilliant! ;)

18 weeks late boy you are stupid aren't you?I know alot as an attorney and yes what Trevon had in his system will play a role, if Zimmerman can show Trevon attacked him. To even act like you know the law is hilarious. GZ was not on private property, He was there all the time was because they formed a neighborhood watch group. And by all rights even though he followed Trevon, He had a right to defend himself when he was attacked. Not only me but most attorneys and a few Judges feel GZ did not profile him or stalk him and he did shoot him defending his life. So I take it as a compliment that you said i make Nevada look stupid. Read the facts PLEASE before you talk. you are obviously more ignorant than the others..OH YAH STROKING MY EGO LMFAO.

try reading, he was defending himself. HUNG JURY

MISTY

your either the dumbest lawyer or you have got issues.

THE RETREAT AT TWIN LAKES IS NOT OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT THUS IT MEANS THAT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY (add in robot talking)

you have not read the Florida statute for 2nd degree murder if you had it doesn't have a self defense clause in it --it only establishes that a person died at the hand of another for no legal reason.

you do know also---well based on your answer above that ----you just might not know, that zimmerman is the only one claiming self defense.

and also if you are even close to being a lawyer you would know that a neighborhood watch group is a private entity since it watches over the HOMES OF OTHERS, thus not a government agency thus they do not get there power from the bill of rights or constitution but by the rules of the group administrators that volunteer to organize under the advisement of the police dept of that town.

thus in the sanford police depts watch group hand book it clearly states you are not the police thus we need you to only be an observer and report, which we all have known that zimmerman did not do.

Neighborhood watch people are allowed to follow someone who looks suspicious, to find out where there going. I have a neighborhood watch where I live and yes they do report crime, they also have been known to follow someone who looked suspicious. George was told not to but that is not a crime. there is no law saying following someone is illegal, NONE so please dont make an ass out of yourself and say there is. However it is against the law to slam someones head into the ground. And as far as i am concerned he was defending himself.

I feel so embrassed that Misty316 is an "Lawyer" (if she really is) in Nevada. I know we have some idiots here but she take the cake.

The amount of THC found in his system can't be used in court meaning they can't use it. It was small traces. You need to review ALL the evidence again and talk to some of your lawyers friend they will tell you it will be a waste of time to try and argue if he was high or not.

As far the neighborhood watch part, the neighborhood watch committee or board and the police tell you not to follow anyone and to call the police. GZ called the police while following him, lol thats why the dispatch asked him not to do that.

I very seriously doubt that misty is a lawyer. I have never heard a lawyer try to win an argument using that kind of language. Lawyers (at least the good ones) normally have a certain amount of eloquence and do not resort to name calling and cursing. Just saying!

maybe Misty was just trying to talk at a level cj could understand. Whoops she's still going over his head.

mshtc....watch the video of TM at the 7-11

@ misty316 I think you make a very good point if I knew someone was watching my house at night I would feel safer. GZ didn't do anything wrong at all. he was guarding the community he lived. Keeping people safe. i hope he is found not guilty so he can go on with his life.

Are you guys on here serious? Iagree with @ Misty316 that I would rather someone patrol my neighborhood and keep me safe then not investigate suspicious activity. Trevon was obviously acting suspicious. George did nothing wrong and from the looks of this site many agree.

Donna 17, Misty, kpm58, and Shellie,

Are you guys on here serious? Iagree with @ Misty316

(ROFLMAO!!!) Hey Misty, donna 17, kpm58, and Shellie, it's time to up the dosage of your multiple personality disorder meds! Please have one of your personalities call your doctor first thing in the morning.

And for goodness sakes...make sure your gun is locked up tight until this episode passes!

DONNA

try not to fall in line with the IM A DUMB american citizen routine, please.

this was not about watching you house it is ALL ABOUT zimmerman having the authority to tell a GUEST at your house that he/she is suspicious and thus he must do something about it.

zimmerman was not at his OWN HOUSE he was in the common area of the twin lakes condos, which is land HE DOES NOT OWN.

so just in case your not getting it. LETS MAKE IT A BIT MORE RELATIVE.

if you live in a nice house and you decide to have someone come over to visit, zimmerman watched your guest come into the place you live, from the public street. And then as that person walked to your place, zimmerman followed them. Then your friend tried to run away from zimmerman after they noticed them following them from the private property street in his vehicle and just as they thought he was gone, he shows up again and your friend STOPS and asks him why he is following them.

your friend does not see a police uniform or security uniform

your friend does not get a reply that says "I AM just making sure your a guest here" in a friendly voice

your friend thinks zimmerman is creepy and tries to leave.

the next thing you hear is police cars and you go to look and find your friend dead, and then you hear that zimmerman thought your friend looked suspicious because he has never seen them before, even though WHERE YOU LIVE does not have any rules on how guest must look or what to where or distinguish them from residents.

ARE YOU STILL SURE with your friend dead that this zimmerman guy is a just this great neighbor.

sheesh

Hey CJ,

I hope one of her personalities is smart enough to get it. I don't think you could have made it any easier without using actual pictures to go witht the words...you know, visual aids to help comprehension. (LOL)

Have a good night! I need to go get some sleep. :)

So let me get this straight because I agree with misty I have multiple personalities. Girl please get a life. You go home take your meds and get laid maybe then you'll quit being so uptight. As for you CJ if my friends came over (Which they do all the time ) and our neighborhood watch guy asked them where they were going (which they do). My friends wouldn't care. They sure in the hell wouldn't hit them slam their head on the ground. Face it were not gonna agree, there's about 7 people on here who agree with me. And there's a bunch who agree with you.I am just wondering if Sally and and Jo ann are the same person because they never have an opinion just follow you.

@sally just want to say you really are a TROLL in all sense of the word, Because I have a different opinion then you makes me crazy? I think the fact you believe TM did nothing wrong makes you crazy.

DONNA

are you loopy or something, did you miss the PART WHERE your NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GUY would identify himself if asked. zimmerman did not and we know this as a fact because martins girlfriend was on the phone when martin notice zimmerman for the 2nd time.

the 2nd part is that YOUR neighborhood guy would be wearing something that shows his purpose and also he wouldn't be ARMED WITH A GUN-- try not to be such a twit.

lastly your neighborhood watch guy would not be following or asking your guest anything because THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS. o. m.g. sheesh woman.

your inability to agree with me is just your dishonesty that comes with being on the web, your integrity is saying something different. But you SHAG IT OFF BY stating it has to do with you agreeing with me, IT DOESNT it has to do with the (big picture here donna) the way our society functions based on the laws and how we respectfully interact with each other, not because i type it out for you.

again i see like ALL OF THE ZIMMERMAN people you dodge the authority aspect to the example produced because you know if you answer it, your realize that zimmerman did the wrong thing becuase he had no reason to act.

but again to admit that here takes integrity which is not a requirement when blogging. ugh

And please try to remember, that only zimmerman is telling the story -- and hopefully your be able to watch him live in court explain it again and then your catch the lies and see the inconsistency and thus realize that it all comes back to being a respectful responsible gun owning citizen.

Be very aware, that sally and jo-an were on here providing factual information weeks before and i decided to FOLLOW up with them because there are to many zimmie zombies that need another way to see the same information the way it was presented.

in the end, these women along with a few other on here, hold there own not because they are women but because they are strong willed, focused and non intimidated, informed, caring people. And all of them are able to STOP AND FIND the answers that provide them with the facts they need to reply to the zimmie fools day in and day out as there daily schedules allow.

I'd say Donna AND Misty are the same person. Check out their join date's...8/2012....hmmmmm

RE-REG TROLLS....

Not worth debating,

SUZY_SUNSHINE has gone to extremes...LOL

CJ and Jo-An

Thank you for that.

Jo-An

It was such a bad attempt too. wasn't it. She should have at least changed up her style of writing between the two! Just my opinion for next time. (Still laughing at her lame attempt)

LOL....

She should have at least changed up her style of writing between the two!

RIGHT? Every time she dreams up a new identity, she gives herself away by her writing! I think she enjoys us catching her at it. She was pretty tricky with her Suzy_Sunshine identity...she kept getting banned, and would show RIGHT back up with the same crazy sun avatar, changing one small part of her name, like using upper case, rather than lower, and on, and on...LOL....

Seriously I said yesterday that you and sally are the same person , now you say it about me and misty, you really are a troll.LMFAO Cant come up with nothing original. As for them having intelligent conversations you CJ are an idiot, there's nothing intelligent either one of them (actually since their the same person) Sally or Jo ann has said that even made sense. I see you have never had a neighborhood watch group in your neighborhood, THEY DO NOT WEAR SOMETHING TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE, And no he always carried a gun he had a permit for it. Reality is you are black so of course TM was a victim and GZ a racist, And my guess is Joann is married to a black man and well sally too because they are the same person. I am done talking with you morons. My advice CJ go back to school learn grammer, PLEASE learn to spell, and when GZ is found not guilty i will be back on here to gloat.

DONNA

there is something about the right to carry a weapon dippy and the rules that allow you to be part of a watch program, zimmerman cant claim he is part of a watch program if he carries his weapon.

why because thats the number one rule-weapons are not allowed by members of the watch group.

so again try not to out think this, it is very simple, zimmerman made his own bed and now has to lie in it because he doesnt think rules or laws apply to him when he makes up his mind.

and the same can be said for you!!

you claim zimmerman is a watchman but the rule says he cant be with a gun, so which is it.

but then you claim he has a permit for his gun -- which is valid and you are correct but then he cant carry it if he is going to be a watch man

so your a loser all the way around.

by the way just cause i chose not to give you the courtesy of a proper reply doesn't mean the reply has no meaning, cheesy on your part to think it does.

And thats a VERY FUNNY THING that you need him to be found innocent, when normal reasonable minded folks dont need the law to tell us he is wrong, thats what makes you a shallow silly fool.

Really Donna? This is YOUR FIRST POST....

#1.28 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

You and Misty are soooooooo THE SAME PERSON it is silly...

:) Maybe personality Donna didn't let personality Misty know that she was going to post too! I heard that could happen, like with Cybil! (Still LMAO!)

LMAO! Stop it Cybil! That's my friends and I usee to say when we couldn't make up our minds.

It's not illegal to carry a gun with neighborhood watch, it's discouraged , Even on all the neighborhood watch sites it says he shouldn't here is aquote off Jane valdez's show

In addition, although Zimmerman broke no laws because he has a concealed weapons permit, it's something that Neighborhood Watch strongly discourages. "There's no reason to carry a gun," Tutko said. "You do not carry a weapon during neighborhood watch. If you carry a weapon, you're going to pull it."

Zimmerman has claimed self-defense in the matter. He was running an errand in his SUV when he first spotted Trayvon walking back from a 7-Eleven store at about 8:15 p.m. on Feb. 26. While Zimmerman did call police to report Martin as suspicious, he continued to follow the teen, although the dispatcher told him he didn't need to follow Martin.

It is discouraged not against the law, otherwise he would have been arrested for carrying a concealed weapon also. Face it you can believe people will find him guilty when he has over 20,000 supports on social sites alone. The fact you need to find GZ guilty because TM was black is ridiculous.

Concerned Citizen

That's what my friends and I use to say when we couldn't make up our minds.

That is too funny! :) Now, I can't wait to use that on my friends!

I t was around 7 pm - read the evidence that has all the timelines, etc. then speak.

Zimmerman has claimed self-defense in the matter. He was running an errand in his SUV when he first spotted Trayvon walking back from a 7-Eleven store at about 8:15 p.m. on Feb. 26

Yah right Jane Veldez lies all the time, That's from her show not mine. i just copied what she said about the time.

yah this is my first time posting on here because my husband said don't waste my breath with a bunch of liberals. i don't know misty or this suzy chick and don't give a @!$%# who they are. All I can say is my husband was correct you people really believe your right about everything. And it's really funny that when I said you and sally were the same person suddenly you said it about me, You really have lost your mind. See I have a life I don't have time to sit on all these site's posting like you do. Believe what you want I am new on here I support GZ and i am not going anywhere anytime soon. But Sally/ joann i do know you are the same person, because you both have no opinions of your own just agree with everyone else.

DONNA

then your husband hasn't read your posts, or he would be of the opinion that you have issues too, but i am sure he is aware of them, if your this way in reality as you are when you type comments on here.

In either case, you didnt notice everything that has put zimmerman where he is at, is because he doesn't think rules apply to him, thus he only thinks it matters if laws are broken which is not how this society runs, and thats too bad you think that way too so your both in the same boat.

Donna......Sally and Joann maybe two different people, but they have the same Pimp.

I never said rules don't apply to me what I said is GZ did not break the law by following TM. There is no such law. And yes i assumed they had the same pimp i thought it might be CJ.

DONNA

it must have skipped over your head about the fact that the reason PEOPLE OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY,

is so that they dont need to have PUBLIC LAWS dictate how they manage the rules and exceptions of there own property.

thus Zimmerman need to act did not exist on the property he does not own, and even less ability if this happened on public property.(could not sign a witness statement of a criminal act)

the concept of land owners rights is not supposed to be dictated by someone who doesn't own it, but yet zimmerman EXPECTS his own private property(townhouse) to not be violated because HE EXPECTS PEOPLE TO be respectful of it, which is less then he was to martin.

people who own stuff know the difference.

Zimmerman was granted anew Judge today, I told you all Judge Lester was biased Ha i love it

DONNA

you do realize this is not necessarily a good move, because NOW he has no wiggle room and that any defense submissions now will have to go by the rule of the book because a judge wont risk assisting him in any way of a legal maneuver.

Right on Jo-An. I had forgotten the "Pro Bono" thing. He's just another bottom feeding lawyer that gives the good ones a bad name. Him and ole George deserve each other...

Send more money suckers!

The Kingston Trio - Greenback Dollar

Very little money is being donated now to George and O'Mara. Why do you think that is?

Soon to become, "Hang down your head, Geroge Zimmerman. Poor boy, you're going away for life."

Didn't O'Mara claim in the beginning that he was going to represent Zimmie pro bono. Looks like he might have to live up to his word, lol.

Mike, O'Mara has always had the appearance of sleaze, in my opinion. I wouldn't trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

Didn't O'Mara agree to do it pro bono?

Yes O'Mara did .. until he saw what a gold mine e-begging can be.

If there is any karma that cash cow will dry up.

Looks like it's already drying up, given the fact that he is begging for more money based on the fact that George is broke again.

@ you all have thoughtful comments. Just last week George Zimmerman collected another 40,000 in donations , i wouldn't say that"s a little money. And @Joanne there are alot more supporters for him than you think. I bet there will be one on his jury. bet this is a hung jury because people like me are tired of people like you prosecuting him without a trial.

misty316,

there are alot more supporters for him than you think. I bet there will be one on his jury.

Good luck!

Keep sending your money!

Oh honey i am not sending money, but know plenty od Lwayers and cops who do support him.

MISTY

its great you know plenty of good lawyers and cops that support zimmerman but guess what since you in nevada and not florida-- s the f up and sit down!

as if your going to put em on a plane and hope they can get on the jury-- fool--wow!!!

Are you that stupid to think that lawyers, judges, cops from different states don't talk. Go on Facebook there's a support George Zimmerman site full of cops, lawyers judges from everywhere even FLORIDA.And Alot of the people in Florida feel he is being mistreated so yes someone will make sure it's a hung jury DUMBASS. now go back read a book and try to sound intelligent. (wishful thinking Huh).Syupid ass/

MISTY

you must have missed the fact that you stated YOU KNOW many, and that wonderful but since you live in nevada-- why in the world do you think it matters. wow!

Did you miss the part that lawyers from all different states talk on GZ support page. I will be back to say I told you so when the jury gets hung. Now go eat something obviously you do that alot.

Misty is NO LAWYER...just a RACIST TROLL...

lol....

you being a troll dont make me any less than a lawyer, Girl looking at your picture you can tell you have no boyfriend, no life.

I said it in an earlier post but would like to say it again:

I very seriously doubt that misty is a lawyer. I have never heard a lawyer try to win an argument using that kind of language. Lawyers (at least the good ones) normally have a certain amount of eloquence and do not resort to name calling and cursing.

Definitely, not the kind of lawyer I would ever hire.

actually watch any law show lawyers curse all the time to get their point across, besides why would she say she's a lawyer? makes no sense

Misty 316---

Are you like 12 years old? "Look at you pic you have no boyfriend" BTW, I'm sure Joanne is very popular with those dimples! Hey Misty where is your pic? Can't show it cuz you are really SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN??????

Hello icurhoods

I'm sure Joanne is very popular with those dimples!

I agree! She is very pretty and sooo cute with those dimples, isn't she!!! Your right! Misty sounds just like a jealous little 12 year old!

icurhoods,

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? You've missed plenty of FUN....LOL...

Misty AND Donna are trolls...I mean A TROLL...

;)

Hi Shellie

Hey sally and Jo!

To be quite truthful with you I stopped posting because I became sickened by these GZ supporters. Basically supporting nothing! It became quite clear that presenting countless facts with evidence in Trayvons defense (IE Gz's own contradictions in his own testimonies), that they can only respond by repeating Gz's lies! It made me sick! Sick to be reminded of the racists element that exists in our country. How people could be so callous about the murder of an innocent child, only because he was Black. The constant lies about Trayvon, repeating them as if they were truth!

But I always continued to read on this vine. I saw how you guys and thoughtful comments and a few others never gave up! You guys keep throwing the truth back at them and I admire that strength. So.... I'm back because of you guys. Thank you for continuing to be Trayvons voice, thank you for showing his family this kind of support and thank you for showing me what standing your ground really means! I won't sit silent anymore! You guys are awesome! I'm back on the team!

Can someone tell me how Trayvon managed to smash, punch and smother Gz without getting blood on his hands? We know the EMT said Gz's head was 45% covered in blood! ANYONE?

AAAAAHHHHH.....feels good to be back! ; )

Zimbots...dumber than dirt...

No matter how much evidence is given, these clowns stand up for a murderer...

Can someone tell me how Trayvon managed to smash, punch and smother Gz without getting blood on his hands? We know the EMT said Gz's head was 45% covered in blood! ANYONE?

Of course they CAN'T...do they care? Nope...they are racist trolls....

This is the best video, showing ZimmerLIAR's many lies, and contradictions....everyone should watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHyIpO43NRg&feature=plcp

So, Ogre, what do you think about this new development? No SYG defense, because the case doesn't meet the criteria.

And Georgie is out of money. When does your disability check come in? George needs it.

Olga is an old white man, scared of his shadow....

BOOO!

Hi Shellie

You got a thing for big girls, kpm?

Send her some food. Georgie is broke.

you should talk Olga

seeing as you are still here yourself.

That was funny duck. You don't know why, but it was funny.

devout,

The comment in #8 just shows how little you really know
about the justice system. The prosecution did not perform a full medical exam
because it would not have served any purpose. In fact most likely it would have
more thoroughly proven GZ's case. It will be a simple thing for a Dr. to get up
on the stand and say here are the X-Rays of GZ's broken nose. That is a defense
argument no prosecutor would even bring it up if they could avoid it in this
case. Actually the state is going to try their best to discredit the Dr. or try
to prevent his medical opinion from even being presented in court.

starride, um gz's PA qdvised him to go to a nose, ear and throat specialist and he refused...the PA never took x-rays. Read the medical report on omara's site. Why in the world would the prosecution perform a medical exam ? The Physician assistant was a female and GZ went to see her ONLY after he tried to go to work and needed a Doctor's note before they would let him return...that is also very clear in the report. The State is going to going to love that report. LOL...Oh and also the PA report says that he has a POSSIBLE broken nose. Read it and weep.

Starride...you cannot get around the fact that George was referred to an ENT to confirm or disconfirm a closed fracture of his nose. HE refused to go get that evidence. As a result, he cannot prove he had a broken nose, but the prosecution, based on his own doctor's report, can prove that there is nothing to support his claim of a broken nose. It was George's responsibility to document his injuries. Unfortunately for him, the documentation does not substantiate a claim of a broken nose, nor of injuries consistent with having your head slammed against concrete repeatedly with force.

Why would the state try to discredit the doctor? His report is supportive of the prosecution's case.

Starride...you're talking non-sense. The prosecution did not have to perform any type of medical exam on GZ. They are not doctors; they are LAWYERS. Furthermore, if GZ felt that his nose was 'broken' at any time, then he should have gone to the emergency room the night the incident happened to have an ex-ray done. But he did not do that because his nose was not broken. It is clear that not that he is facing life in prison for second degree murder, he will say just about anything to avoid going to prison for the rest of his life including claiming that his nose was broken so that somebody somewhere will believe him. But again there has NEVER been any evidence whatsoever, other than conjecture and surmise, that show that GZ ever had a broken nose. To the contrary, the evidence plainly show that GZ's nose, at best, was swolen and bruised. And even if his bell-pepper nose had been broken, that still does not justify him drawing his weapon and shooting a 17 year-old child center-mass. In other words, GZ shot TM in cold-blood. If you don't know what shooting center mass mean, then ask a self-defense instructor what it means or google it.

Do you think there may have been the slightest possibilty that GZ did not have the money to pay for all these medical procedures you damn him for not doing?

If he hadn't managed to get his a$$ in a legal bind, he'd have money to pay his medical expenses. Should of used some of that 150 grand he tried to hide from the court.

Should have used some of that 150 grand he tried to hide from the court to pay his medical bills.

He did not have that money the night or day after TM attacked him,sfb.

KPM58

you must not understand how that process works-- but it doesnt matter the day before or the day after FOOL

it matters the day off the hearing when he filled out the paper and had his lawyer run his mouth about how poor he was, after the website had been up for awhile-- try not be such a smart ass that you forget to think about what you already know-- its getting old!!

Hey dumbass, read the posts before you attack someone. We are talking about GZ being able to medical and hospital bills the night and day after he was attacked by TM.........It's your irrelevant,dumb,racial immature,incomprehensible posts that are compost.

KPM

this is that moment where you have to SHOW AND PROVE- provide the link of information that shows he went to hospital on his own, and please try not to be a dummy---and think you can provide it!

any one with half a brain that knows he is going to be investigated doesnt go to his own family medical group=== he goes to one who is independent because that RELATIONSHIP will be a focus of the prosecution to show that the doctor fudged the report in favor of GZ--

your too young to play this game!!

@CJfromMN, All you do is sit on here preach the facts that you believe to be true, and yet i haven;t seen a trial yet. You tell people what to think or call them stupid if they don't agree. Well I don't i think Trevon was a racist thug and got shot for hitting someone who was following him. GZ might have been told not to but he did and therefore that does not give TM the right to attack him.

DONNA

let me tell you about a racist thug

HE WOULD HAVE HAD HIS OWN GUN YOU TWIT.

this is about a kid talking on his own dam cell phone to a girl-- thats a pretty hard core thug out at 7 pm in a rainstorm

what you dont get is that ZIMMERMAN is not in charge of any one when he leaves his own property.

and if you had half a brain = you would just slide back from your computer, and think of you ONE PERSON YOU LOVE (IF YOU CAN) and then ask your self if they ended up dead coming to visit you -- and you find out they did nothing wrong and the PERSON who shot them --thought they were suspisious=== that makes sense to you.

WHAT STUPID is that you dont need a trail to know how to think--- if you own anything it is YOURS

for anyone else to use it or tell others how to use it THEY NEED YOUR PERMISSION. but because some of my fellow americans are like sheep and just eat the grass and dont learn anything about this dam country --- then you dont know.

that this country was born because people were tired of the goverment taking land and not paying for it.

so we made the bill of rights and constitution so that WHEN YOU OWN PROPERTY YOU make the rules when your on it and when other people are on it.

thus zimmerman doesnt make the rules at TWIN LAKES thus he could not tell say dictate or suggest ---anything to martin since he was a guest.

i mean do you own a house, ----could i come into your house and tell people what to do with out your permission---thats what zimmerman did.

do you live in an apartment and signed a lease---did you not get a HANDBOOK THAT told you DONNA what you could and can not do--- why >>>>>>because you dont own the land that apartment sits on and when you signed the lease--- you VOLUNATARILY stated you would comply with the rules and expectations the OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT have for you--do you not get this.

WHEN you go into a store, and then you have to show your reciept--- do you not know that its private property and until you leave that property the owners can have you PROVE you purchased something.

but if you go to the city hall of your town, no one stops you at the door to check what you have purchased DO THEY why because its all owned by US THE PEOPLE.

so try not to think this has nothing to do with BEING STUPID it has everything to do with being a INFORMED CITIZEN and when you not -- then i shouldn't have to be forced to give you and others a pass.

i actually am embarrassed for you all.

Dude the only one your embarrassing is yourself. Did you graduate? can you spell, use punctuation? Try capitalization. Trial you spell like that ok? And no I own a home and have a home owners association, and we have a neighborhood watch. Sorry we look for suspicious people, follow them and call the cops. Because unfortunately if you wait for the cops to come sometimes you would already have been robbed. he shouldn't have followed TM but then that did not give TM a right to hit him first. And yes all the witnesses said TM hit GZ first.

DONNA

petty petty that doesnt change the message. How funny you EXPOSE YOUR SELF, as a tenant, your again bound to the homeowner rules and regulations, and no where does it say, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY to dictate who comes and goes, NO YOU DONT.

neither did zimmerman. Also you know that your watch guy is not PAID BY YOUR ASSOCIATION thus he doesnt have the authority either to enforce the association rules.

And know where does your watchman have material that you can link that says he should follow ANYONE.

the police response is based on the PRIORITY of the call placed not by who places the call. And if you live in condo place that you get robbed after someone witnesses it, because the police didnt come that doesnt stop your ability to make a report because guess what YOUR NOT DEAD like martin.

And again the only one telling a story is zimmerman, i hope you take time off from work(assuming you work) so that you can watch him in court and then get that sinking feeling in your stomach as he tries to weave the 3 different lies he has told(the police statement, the video walk through, and the interview on tv) when looking at the jury looking at him or his lawyer.

Yah right our neighbor hood watch group does follow people and take notes if they look suspicious. And I personally am glad they do. Actually in no report that they have released does it say the exact time he was shot, what it does say is TM was cutting in between houses in the rain, Who the @!$%# does that? If he was headed one place you go there, most people don't play around in the rain. And yes it would look very suspicious even in the daytime if someone is cutting in between house, instead of being on the main road. I hope you watch GZ be found not guilty of at the very least it will be a hung jury.

DONNA

you do know that postmen who delivery the mail cut through yards all the time and across them too-- try not to make this some huge event that martin was doing something no one else has ever done like landing on the moon.

wow

Seriously Like Tm was a post man, Give it up he was being sneaky

And please quit trying to change peoples minds on here who support GZ were not gonna change. and when he is found not guilty or it is a hung jury we will be back on here to gloat. That's all . I have an actual job and cant keep going back and forth with a bunch off illiterates who cant spell.

Donna 17

who support GZ were not gonna change

were is the past tense of be - it is a verb. we're - is a contraction of we are.

bunch off illiterates who cant spell.

Pot meet kettle

Sorry I can spell.

Exactly. His claiming to be scared is just another way to try and garner sympathy and up the donations. He doesn't have anything to be scared of. The American public is perfectly happy to wait for the justice system to put his sorry a$$ in prison where it belongs.

I think we just got evidence of a potential rioter.

see devout's post at 10.3 which disproves what you just said

You need to read 10.2 again.

You need to learn to read, period.

@devout you are an idiot he wasn't profiling black men , actually not one person could say he was racist, however Trevon was very racist, thought he could scare GZ when approached attacked him, slammed his head and got shot. Since he was on drugs i do believe GZ was defending himself and I pray for his family everyday.

Misty where you getting your information Faux news. Gee whiz.

You not born a racist, its something that happens over time due to bad experiences with a particular group and just because he help black kids, he can still be a racist. Why nobody making the claim that TM was standing his ground, because we all agree George was following him. So TM could have been standing his ground.

misty316,

no...actually....

you are an idiot

Trevon was very racist, thought he could scare GZ when approached attacked him, slammed his head and got shot. Since he was on drugs i do believe GZ was defending himself and I pray for his family everyday.

No truth to ANY of that...only zimmerLIAR's word...which is not worth a dime!

Wow, These ZimmieZombies will tell lie after lie after lie. Do they really believe all these lies they tell?

Are you kidding? Just because someone follows you, does not allow you to hit them. George was defending himself if he was hit first. I know for a fact that I can follow anyone I want and if they attack me and I feel thratened I have the right to defend myself. Oh and here is your proof about the marijuana:

Trayvon Martin had 1.5 nanograms of THC and 7.3 nanograms of another THC substance. Both of those were found in blood in his chest. Traces of cannabis were also found in his urine. But what can we tell from that information? Jane Velez-Mitchell spoke to Howard Samuels, Founder and CEO, The Hills Treatment Center.

MISTY

lets try to make sure you can understand that WE have seen your type come and go, the egotistical HEAR ME ROAR type that realize WHEN not trying to RUN UP AND PUSH FOLKS ON HERE AROUND, that actually you know how you feel doesnt add up to what you type.

martin by the way COULD HAVE JUST HOPPED out of the cheech and chong van -- it doesnt matter we are not talking about martins actions, if you didnt notice, no police report indicated that martin was in violation of any criminal laws or private property rules or expectations WHICH would have allowed zimmerman ANY REASON to interfere with martins right to be left alone.

ZIMMERMAN had no right to follow anyone much less martin because HE NEVER HAD the authority to change martins behavior or interfere with his right to be on the property, since zimmerman did not work for twin lakes and was not on his OWN DAM PROPERTY, only a twin lakes representative or security could, which he knew the police would have told zimmerman too, because they wouldnt violate martins rights since he was not on public property.

try not to embarrass the Nevada bar association please.

CJfromMN

martin by the way COULD HAVE JUST HOPPED out of the cheech and chong van --

LOL!!! It's so true! What does this have to do with Zimmermans "grossly negligent behavior" which lead to the direct death of a 17 year old minor who fled, not once but twice, to try and get away from the crazy self appointed and medicated, gun carrying Night Watch Captain.

SALLY411

tell the truth!!

Your an idiot shut up, GZ was not on private property he was a neighborhood watchman for the community He had every right to patrol. Learn the law you are embarrassing yourself honey, and so is @sally411 The only thing she can do is agree. you two are 100% wrong about the law and 100% trolls who think people need to agree with you.In a few months when its a hung jury I'll meet you back on here to say i told you so.

MISTY

do you really not know that a GATED COMMUNITY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. And it is not about patrol its about HOW to correctly patrol because theres a guideline and even a manual. zimmerman must not know how to read, cause he didnt do very well at it.

You really believe what you say , don't you? He was neighborhood watch he was allowed to be there. Nothing you say will change the facts of this case.

MISTY

its not about him being there, its about his AUTHORITY TO ACT, in anyway when no criminal act was not observed (citizens arrest form) or as a twin lakes housing code of conduct violation(security or management of any kind)

thus zimmermans ability to dictate martins movements/ actions or confront him in any way -- is not valid and stating he had suspicions is something he will have to sell to a jury who are going to wonder why HE THOUGHT HE HAD THE RIGHT to follow martin when NONE OF ABOVE OCCURRED.

A jury is not gonna wonder why he followed, not when GZ can show there had been several break iis in that area in the last few months. people would rather know someone's looking out for them.

People are not gonna question why he followed him, after they know there were several break in in that area. People wanna feel safe.

misty316....I think there two groups of people who want it to wrong for GZ to be suspicious of TM and to try and keep sight of TM. First you have your criminals who would love for people to have to wait until they commit a crime before people can call the police, more time to get away. Second you have the people who feel guilty about not caring about their neighbors and would love to have laws that tell them they don't have to care, so they would feel less ashamed.

MISTY

you have gotten a lawyer degree from a cereal box or you have never been in court.

RECENT BREAK INS doesn't prove that martin was a suspect in any of them much less the fact that HE HAD NOT WITNESSED any criminal activity that he called to the police about. THUS any jury will wonder how ZIMMERMAN could even associate martin with being apart of any break ins ---if thats not what he called about----

By the way people who want to feel safe ALSO DONT want there neighbors harassing them for no reason. thus thats why we have probable cause as the basis for how we deal with others in our society, not suspicions that make us feel we can act on them when nothing observed occurred.

just because you have kpm 58 kissing you --doesnt me the two of you have hamsters in your brains that are not starving!!

wow

@misty316 I agree with what your saying i would rather know someone is looking out for my safety. @cj i do not agree with anything you say, Neighbors will not feel harassed if someone is protecting them. Trevon did not have to be sneaking around. that is why he looked guilty

DONNA

you do understand-- that he was not SNEAKING AROUND he just left a dam store-- THIS IS THAT MOMENT where you have just PUT YOURSELF in the BLACK KID HAD TO HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG catergory.

its really sad, your already there just because YOU NEED THAT to fall in line with others.

sneaking around is then something everyone does when its 7 pm at night.

as if 7 pm at night is the prime time for burglaries when MOST OF AMERICANS are home for dinner with there families and t.v. ratings are the highest BECAUSE>>>>>>>ding ding ding>>>people are home.

so what kind of burglary suspect would take the chance to break into homes when its time when most people are home----wow donna!!

Lets be realistic, He was at the store buying munchies because he was stoned, he looked suspicious with his hood on since there were alot of robberies lately. GZ had every right to see where he was going. And to those that think the fact he had drugs in his system wont matter, dream on the defense will use that and every racist thing he had posted on his sites. To show TM was there looking for trouble. Just like the prosecution will use the fact GZ lied about bail and was racist towards mexicans (not that that matters much) because TM was black. I guess we will have to wait till the trial to see what happens.

donna

do you know what your even saying, at 7 pm people look suspisous in the rain, REALLY donna.

he had NO RIGHT to do anything but meet the cops where he said he would. i mean do you even know what the cops would have done IF THEY SHOWED UP in time.

they would have told zimmerman to not follow people who havent commited a criminal act because they are not about to violate martins right to be left alone on private property since they work for the government and zimmerman is not security and martin is not a suspect in any burlgary cases.

much less your COWARDLY stance on the fact ZIMMERMAN and his wife lied in court doesnt make you wonder what part of all of this is true when the only element that makes this guy feel privildged is the fact that he knew there would not be alot of people out in the rain that night to be witnesses along with his feeling like a tough guy with his gun on his hip.

you just cant help yourself.

Tell me you have never lied? Bull@!$%# everyone lies does not make them a murder. GZ had every right to protect where he lived and TM was going in between houses in the rain, leisurely like. He looked suspicious face it.

DONNA

the best word is fool, for you-- A COMMON AREA OF ANY PROPERTY MEANS it cant be his property-- you fool.

the fact you think GZ is gonna be found guilty makes you a FOOL.

I think that a jury should hand down the verdict in a court of law---definitely no street justice ,devout.

devout-------Where I was in agreement with you was you posts at #1 and #8

At trial, O'Mara is going to have the horrendous job of defending a client who has consistently lied throughout all the his police interviews recorded both on audio and video.

I am not suggesting that in this particular case there should be street justice, I was saying that "IF" it was my son that Zimmerman had shot there would be street justice because NOBODY would know anything about the fact that Zimmerman shot my son. I would be too furious and angry to be going on national TV doing interviews talking about the death of my son at the hands of George Zimmerman. And the worst part of it is having to see a video of the last moments of my son's life in a 7-eleven store. That would never erase from my mind. Tryavon Martin's parents have held this fight for Trayvon's justice very well but I know that I could not do it, which is why I would resort to street justice. Every person or parent reacts to tragedy like this differently, and I am admittedly one of them. I can't imagine how any parent would feel to know that they will NEVER see their child again. It's something that never heals; not even with time.

Right there with you devout!!

devout----you are doing an excellent job advocating for Trayvon!

Absolutely, YAHTC. George claimed to be "dazed" and "just pulled his gun and fired". BS. This was a deliberate, aimed shot that went straight to the heart and collapsed both lungs.

And I'm right there with you, devout. Keep up the great posts.

Yes, it was, DOCJT!

Here's my idea of George's thought process after he left the police station the night he killed Trayvon-------

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Oh d_mn. They will probably conclude that I pursued Trayvon after the dispatcher told me not to. What do I do..........what do I do? .......I've got to change the dispatcher narrative somehow........Aha.....I can do that by just saying it differently. Rewording it to fit my needs. It will just look like it was my understanding .....my interpretation ...of what he said.

Then I can put my own spin on the the events. Then it won't look like I pursued him. I'll just say I was looking for an address.

Oh d_mn. What if a witness heard me say, "You're going to die for that!" What if they hear me me say after I shot him, "I got you!' ? That would be lights out for me. Aha---I will just say Trayvon said those things. I'll just change "I got you" to "You got me."

And, of course, I have already said that it was my cry for help--not his.

Oh, and I will tell them my flashlight battery went dead.

Oh, in case anyone saw me reaching for my gun when I met up with Trayvon and that's why he hit me, I will just say that I was reaching for my phone.

Oh d_mn. There might be some witnesses who saw me on top of Trayvon just before I shot him. I will have to really come up with something.....Aha---I will just say I had to get on top of him and spread his arms out and hold them down because, at that point, I did not realize my shot had hit him and I had to hold him down to keep him from continuing to resist me.

Yeah, that should take care of things

Based on everything that has been released in this case, and my knowledge of human thought processes (especially those of the antisocial personality), I'd say you have that danged close to perfect, YAHTC!

DOCJT lying to the Court is very serious business. You don't go in Court and tell the Judge presiding over your case a lie for leniency, and if you think it's ok to lie to a Judge, then go before Judge Lester and tell him a lie. Zimmerman tricked Judge Lester into giving him a low bond that he was not otherwise entitled to receive, so that's call perpetrating a fraud upon the court. Judge Lester acted appropriate. He could have held Zimmerman in contempt of court and hauled his ass into Jail with a contempt charge but he didn't. Zimmerman just don't know when to leave well enough alone. Judge Lester gave him a break when he set his bond at $1 million dollars. He didn't have to but he did so anyway. I believe Zimmerman is barking up the wrong tree. The writ of prohibition that O'Mara filed will be denied, and then Zimmerman will be stuck with Judge Lester. When O'Mara's representation of Zimmerman in this case is over with, O'Mara will go on about his business and George Michael Zimmerman will be another State prison number. But before that happens, it is clear that O'Mara is getting rich off of Zimmerman's donation. If Zimmerman was smart, he would try to plea guilty to Manslaughter, save the donated money and do the 10 or 12 year sentence. That way he knows that won't be facing life in prison and when he do the 10 to 12 year bid (sentence), he will have some money to get back on his feet when he get out of prison. But apparently Zimmerman believes that O'Mara is going to work up a stunt and get the charges dismissed, but that just ain't going to happen. A few days ago, on August 9, 2012, O'Mara said on his website, www.gzlegalcase.com, that "Now that the State has released the majority of their discovery, the defense asserts that there is clear support for a strong claim of self-defense. Consistent with this claim of self-defense, there will be a “Stand Your Ground” hearing."

Today, however, less than four days later, O'Mara is saying, "“Facts do not seem to support a stand your ground case,” and that he “think the facts suggest in this case that what probably happened was my client was reacting to having his nose broken.” Well, commonsense would tell you that you can not shoot and kill somebody just because your nose is broken or because you think your nose is broken. It wouldn't make sense for anyone to go free on 'self-defense' for shooting and killing somebody over a broken nose. If people could shoot and kill somebody for breaking their nose, then a lot of kids in school would be dead whenever they get into a fist fit with somebody carrying a gun.

Zimmerman needs to look at the reality, and that is he is facing life in prison. There's no way I would gamble with my freedom with an attorney that's money hungry.

Am in complete agreement, and have stated as much in previous discussions of this topic, devout.

Zimmerman lives in a world where he believes he is somehow special and entitled just because he is George Zimmerman, and thinks that he is smart enough and slick enough to lie and manipulate while people fall at his feet. He is quickly discovering that he is no different from all the other antisocial personalities that have been caught in these tactics and are now sitting in prison cells all over this country.

And I'm having a bit of trouble with O'Mara's claim of George reacting to having his nose broken for the very same reasons you have cited. Excessive force. However, we also need to keep in mind that there is no medical documentation of George having a broken nose. His physician referred him to an ENT to confirm or disconfirm a closed fracture. George refused to go. So he cannot claim a broken nose. There is nothing to support it.

To be honest, I think if the prosecution offers him a plea to manslaughter, he will jump at it.

Looking at your posts, devout, I can see you have studied this case carefully. Thanks for advocating for Trayvon!

I look at this case as if Trayvon Benjamin Martin was my son. It could have been my son in the 7-11 video buying a bag of skittles and a can of ice-tea. And it could have been my son that was profiled, shot and killed by somebody like George Zimmerman. No parent should ever have to bury their child under those circumstances, and for Zimmerman to sit on national TV and say that it was all "God's Plan"; I felt myself reaching into the FOX news TV station and choking him out. Zimmerman has ever right to be scared because I am sure that there is someone that feels the same way I do about street justice, maybe not Martin's family, but there is somebody other than me that does, I'm sure.

@ devout I think there is a key reason that George Zimmerman was never punished with a contempt of court charge and that is because he never explicitly lied to the court. In fact, when going back over some of the court document, I noticed that the prosecutors and judge failed to ask about accounts that may have been set up as a support fund for Zimmerman. Why did they not ask about this? Did they think Zimmerman would just disclose that by himself. "Yeah wait your honor, I never was asks about the donation funds from the internet, so I thought you should know...blah blah." No way. They should have known better than that. I think the lack of a contempt charge is because they know Zimmerman's attorneys would make the prosecution look irresponsible (which they were) for not asking those questions.

Now his wife on the other hand did, in fact, directly lie to the court. But that's between her and the court. Honestly I haven't been keeping track of her. Were charges actually filed against her?

Oh please Paul! George Zimmerman had to disclose under oath in a bail application what his finances are. The prosecution and judge do not have to ask, the defendant has to disclose their financial position and surrender their passport.

IMO - Judge Lester didn't press contempt or perjury charges because this case is bigger than that. Also, he has been more than lenient with GZ. He granted a scond bail when he did not have to, he allowed GZ to appear before the court in a suit instead of a jumpsuit, etc. However, this doesn't mean that perjury or contempt charges still can't be filed. I'm sure the State of FL is content with handling one charge at a time.

yes the wife was charged, but I agree with you he was never asked. And Who would volunteer that information? no one.

Donna and Paul ----

-Oh please Paul! George Zimmerman had to disclose under oath in a bail application what his finances are.-

You are aware there is a written application as well as a hearing right? Can you at least respond with "oh I was unaware, but who cares he killed a Black kid"

HAIL GEORGIE NEGRO SLAYER!!!!!!!!!!

You racists make me sick!

Your an idiot..

The medical reports from less than 24 hours after than video was taken do not support anything other than 2 superficial scalp wounds that were already healing. The EMTs at the scene cleaned him up with a little peroxide, and did not even see the need to bandage those little cuts.

Are you kidding his head was busted up in the back, his nose on top was bloody. i would love to know what video you saw because the one on FOX shows his injuries. He obviously was attacked, and defended himself.

LOL..MISTY is a RE-REG TROLL...

Probably Suzy_SUNSHINE AGAIN!

ZimmieZombies will stop at nothing. What liars and deceivers they are.

Actually I am a lawyer for the last 10 yrs, and was former judge. Not everyone who doesn't agree is a TRoll. you guys are just to ignorant to know the law.

MISTY

lets talk about the law, the law is based on the public property, so lets talk about what law martin violated that zimmerman would have had to be willing to sign a citizens arrest form on him when the police showed up since they were on PRIVATE PROPERTY.

that answer as you well know is NONE!

lets talk about the law, rights of the public on private property are not guaranteed as you KNOW since your a 10 year law vet.

so if zimmerman was not a representative of the land owners, and he was not security that had a contract to enforce the twin lakes rules and expectations, and he was not hired as a manager, what authority did zimmerman have to effect the change or course of conduct of martin that night.

the answer as you well know is NONE!

So then you with the strong INTEGRITY based personality and the 10 year professional would have to acknowledge that if zimmerman was

1.patient and waited for the police since he had no legal violation allowing him to be a witness thus detainment would be considered reasonable did not exist.

2. that following martin would not have been necessary because once martin was confronted he could not state a reason he had the authority to detain him at all.

so again actions of zimmerman were not needed given the fact that zimmerman had not be able to have witnessed any actionable events by martin.

please do as the commercial says and stay in vegas, (switching out vegas for nevada) wow

@cifrommn , you are correct on one thing only, Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him, he should have waited for the cops. Other than that you are 100% wrong. The fact he was a neighborhood watch member he had every right to patrol around there. A few months prior he caught someone breaking in to a house. And even though he did approach him Trevons druggie ass did not have to hit him first. Annd due to the fact your a babysitter trying to talk law is hilarious... go to law school prosecute a case then come talk to me. Better yet do what you do best. go eat .

MISTY

no he didnt have any authority to patrol any thing because he did not work for twin lakes so his ability to use that as his cover did not exist because he would have STATED THAT EITHER TO THE DISPATCHER OR THE MOMENT he made contact with trayvon since deedees phone was on-- and instead of zimmerman stating i dont have a problem he could have stated "i m with the watch just making sure you a guest here" but he didnt.

-- and its clearly stated in the charging papers of the sanford detectives that he did not mention that at all.

OMG...Misty is too hilarious!

A lawyer for the last 10 years, and a judge BEFORE THAT!

Tell us where Misty...Give us the particulars...

CJ has given his badge number, and posts with his REAL PICTURE...

Climb out from under your rock...give us your law firm, so we can check YOU out!

Hey Joanna get a job quit trolling for men, obviously that's all your on here for. God knows you have said nothing intelligent just stupid remarks. AS for cj it is in the report that he said he was with neighborhood watch, and was concerned because there had been break in in the area. Wait till it goes to trial and Everything is released you will see then.

LOL...Happily married for over 30 years, with 4 kids. The oldest is an attorney,

YOU my dear ARE NOT! You are just an old troll...

Still waiting to hear where you are an attorney..."Misty"...still waiting.

JaeBro

My dad is a retired Police Chief and my husband is a retired corrections officer and they both commented to me about the way Zimmerman got out of the police car handcuffed, he just hopped out, they both said the same as you he must have been in good shape and they both commented on how low the handcuffs were on him, they said the police cupped him too low. I also wonder about the video, he did not look injured to the degree they now claim. I also wonder about the picture of him talking on the phone at the crime scene in full view of the police. The Sanford Police did not follow proper procedure in this case.

Well since GZ is a property owner at twin lakes that makes him a represenative of twin lakes. More rights for GZ to be where he was than TM.

KPM58

it has been proving that ZIMMERMAN IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE of twin lakes -- stop lying

he can not be a representative of twin lakes because the neighborhood watch organization is not funded by twin lakes or the government-- thus for zimmerman to be a representive, he would have to have a contract with twin lakes which would then make him_____SECURITY!! wow wow

@cj he lived there, TM did not so he had more rights to be roaming around. @jo an 435 if I was Misty I would not tell you where I worked, you sound nuts. Who are you to tell someone what they do. I am a corrections office for Clark county. Wanna tell me I am not really one because I believe GZ was doing his job and TM apparently looked suspicious. Not everyone agrees in life that is why there is gonna be a jury deciding this. Wait and see what happens no one knows. Look at Casey Anthony she got away with murder because, one of the jurors said they felt bad for how the media was prosecuting her.@misty316 keep speaking your mind I believe your a lawyer. You don't have to prove anything to anyone

Carmen - do you really think that this case will be based on what NBC has said or done? Really!

So, O'Mara's website states that there will be a SYG hearing - that was 4 days ago. As DOCJT stated above, the website has obviously not been updated. And do you know why - because today, O'mara said at HIS press conference:

O’Mara also discussed his recent announcement that the defense will seek a hearing under Florida’s controversial “stand your ground” law, telling reporters that he believes the facts of the case show that Zimmerman had no option but to shoot.

“Facts do not seem to support a stand your ground case,” O’Mara said. “I think the facts suggest in this case that what probably happened was my client was reacting to having his nose broken.”

Don't know about you Carmen, but if I was the client, I would be just a tad concerned about that statement.

There had been absolutely no conclusive evidence that GZ had a broken nose. Please just accept it.

Carmen-1965629, you are correct, O'Mara did state on his website that there will be a SYG hearing; however, he retracted those statements today, when he said, "Facts do not seem to support a stand your ground case,” According to O’Mara he “think the facts suggest in this case that what probably happened was my client was reacting to having his nose broken.”

There is no judge sitting on the bench in the State of Florida that is going to allow George Zimmerman to walk away from a Second Degree Murder charge for shooting and killing an unarmed teen because of having his nose broken. That's non-sense.

Florida statute 776 is Florida's self defense law.

How many times does NBC to deceive some people before they get it?

Wrong. The first judge is the one that brought her possible conflict of interest to light, and offered to recuse herself if that is what the prosecution and the defense wanted.

NBC isn't deceiving anyone, Carmen. You just don't like the facts, lol.

There is nothing in that brief that was not contained in the original motion, Carmen. Lower court already rejected it. Appeals court no doubt will, too.

And people at NBC news were fired because they presented the facts.

1 person is not people. Engaging in a little misrepresentation of your own, kpm?

So what's more important.....I got the number of people fired wrong or why the one person was fired?

YAHTC said

>>> "PROOF that George was HOLDING ONTO THE KID, and the kid was PULLING AWAYwhen George shot him.

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That is a false statement. Trayvons sweatshirt being away from his body only proves that his sweatshirt was away from his body, it doesn't prove how it got that way. There are several different ways to speculate - gravity comes mind. It fine to speculate, but pretending that speculation is proof is incorrect.

I should have put MrPerryvine's words in light grey quotes--

"you all have thoughtful comments: Yes indeed. I viewed your link from the other page.

"It solves the mystery of why the shirts show contact shot and Trayvon's Body showsintermediate ranged shot >>>clearly George HAD him BY THE SHIRT and Trayvon wasPULLING AWAY.

"Clearly George stuck the gun to the kid's shirts and shot through them as Trayvon's body was futher away at intermediate range.

>>> "PROOF that George was HOLDING ONTO THE KID, and the kid was PULLING AWAYwhen George shot him.

"Murder 2, depraved mind all the way. Clear evidence of it. Poor George -seems no evidence likes him."

Acknowledged, and still false to say it is proof that George grabbed Trayvon

Physical evidence is more supportive of that than it is of George's account.

Depends on if the hole in the clothing lines up with the hole in the body. If it lines up then the clothing was not being pulled away. Do you have facts on this or is this just another great leap of opinion.

Not necessarily, kpm. You don't know what position the clothing was in. It's not like he was standing still with his hands to his side so his sweatshirt would line up perfectly. All clothing is in a distorted position depending on the placement of the various parts of the body at the time.

You must have played with cardboard dolls a lot growing up. Real life doesn't work that way.

So that means all yalls theories about the clothing and the gun shot and TM pulling away are hogwash.

Carmen - the EVIDENCE definitely supports the fact that it didn't happen as GZ has stated in his many lies.

I agree with MrP.

IMO, GZ was bound and determined that Trayvon was not going to "get away" like everyone else had done in his warped mind. So he grabbed Trayvon and they wrestled. Trayvon ended up on top and was trying to "jump away" or escape from the crazy dude with the gun. So GZ grabbed the sweatshirt to keep Trayvon form escaping and took the shot to KILL. Then tried to make it look like self-defense. But because GZ is so impressed with his own intelligence (ha), he didn't realize that the forensic evidence would show that there were to gunshot ranges - intermeidate and close. Close on the clothing and internediate on the body.

A question for you Carmen - Why do you think that GZ felt the need to shoot TM in the heart? I think any gunshot wound (like to the leg or arm) would have stopped the confrontation. Is it possible that GZ wanted to make sure there was not an eyewitness as to what really happened? Please try to comprehend that if Trayvon hadn't passed that night, GZ couldn't continue to change his story every time a new piece of evidence is released to cover his own a$$.

GZ's stories just do not add up.

There is no evidence he didn't either, Carmen. But simple physics would support that explanation much more than any of the fairy tales Zim has come up with.

Site please.

Sorry wrong place. Should have been at 17.1.

He didn't say it to the press. He said it to Zimmerman. The press just happened to be in the courtroom and reported what he said to Zimmerman.

Additionally, the judge was required to write a brief explaining his decision to increase bond. That is where the statements came from.

Paul - I am going to go out on a limb here and hope that you don't know this already - in other words, I am hoping you are not just a troll - but under the FL "Sunshie Laws", the Judge had to release evidence, motions, etc. to the public. Judge Lester has no choice by law.

Also, Judge Lester has to state in his opinion paper the reasons he had for raising GZ's bail. He was not biased. He was stating the facts. Fact - GZ lied about his finances (through association with his wife and on the bail application). Fact - he did not turn his passport over to the court. Everything Judge Lester stated was fact.

Wouldn't be it nice if every criminal had the opportunity to "judge shop"? Not!

Why do you think George Zimmerman is so special? He shot an unarmed teenager that was doing "NOTHING WRONG". He was walking home.

He is not the first criminal to be exposed by the media. Do you remember OJ, Casey Anthony, Scott Peterson, etc., etc.?

Seriously you need to learn the law. He did over step saying anything like he believes GZ is going to skip town is biased. He will be removed by the appeals court and GZ will get a hung jury because of Morons like you who print things they claim are evidence, Without a trial. i am very very familiar with the law the judge will be removed watch and see.

MISTY

try to keep it together, A PASSPORT IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT to use as proof of who you are here in the united states that A PASSPORT is proof that you are a legal citizen from the USA which means its for when you TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THE USA,

so that one can assume that if you 2 passports and only turn in ONE passport that you would then use the other passport for a place OUT OF THE USA, wow

try not to be a fool!!

again to check your integrity HOW MANY PASSPORTS did zimmerman have in his possesion before his first bail hearing----- yes >>>>SAY IT WITH ME >>>>2

and how many did he have after his 1st bail hearing >>>>>>SAY IT WITH ME>>>>1.

and how many do you need to get on a plane to travel outside the usa >>>>>say it with me 1!

ok thats the lesson for today!! wow misty!!

Now follow me dumb ass , He was released on bail had a passport and did not skip the country. So therefore it is biased for the judge to say he was going to. You proved my case he had one when he was released and didn't run therefore he was not a flight risk.

A judge cannot say things like that he cant say I hope the prosecutors charge you with other crimes. I know he will be removed or it will be grounds for an automatic appeal.

Did you follow that or was i going to fast for you.

All the banks, credit unions and check-cashing businesses in the state I live in accept a passport as legal proof of I.D.....Wow cj you better call up all their legal departments and let them know that they don't know anything about the law.

KPM58

hey dippy -- THOSE ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY --your a total douche bag, no PUBLIC ENTITY that needs legal documentation of a citizen accepts a passport because it has NO ADDRESS, it only proves that you are a citizen of the united states.

again -- your too young to play this game!

as judge judy says LIKE SHOOTING FISH IN A BARREL!!!

@misty316 i agree If he was gonna skip he would of, @kpm58 you are correct.and @cj yes a passport does have an address on it Mine does. Your right like shooting fish in a barrel.

DONNA

IT DOES NOT HAVE AN ADDRESS ON IT SO THAT YOU HAVE A PLACE OF SAFETY TO RETURN TO IF YOU LOSE YOUR PASSPORT.

Each passport has a data page and a signature page.

A data page has a visual zone and a machine-readable zone. The visual zone has a digitized photograph of the passport holder, data about the passport, and data about the passport holder:

• Photograph
• Type [of document, which is "P" for "passport"]
• Code [of the issuing country, which is "USA" for "United States of America"]
• Passport No.
• Surname
• Given Name(s)
• Nationality [which is always "United States of America"]
• Date of Birth
• Place of Birth (lists the state/territory followed by "U.S.A." for those born in the United States; lists the current name of the country of birth for those born abroad)
• Sex
• Date of Issue
• Date of Expiration
• Authority
• Endorsements

NICE TRY-

next your tell me they can be used as a drivers license!!

wow

Are you kidding i am looking at mine right now. Get your facts straight. Face it if he wanted to run he would have.

DONNA

do you know where that came from -- YOU CLOWN!!

http://travel.state.gov/

and yours does not state your stupid address you fool!!

cj yes a passport does have an address on it Mine does. Your right like shooting fish in a barrel.

wow it has the state you live in-- not where you life-- shessh!!

lmao

Hey CJ - wonder where Donna is really from - my passport AND my husband's passport AND my son's passport do not have an address. And not to be nit-picky and no disrespect intended, but passports show the place of birth not the state you live in. But absolutely no address! Think about it DONNA you'd have to change your passport like your driver's license if you move in 10 years. Hell, I know people that flip houses and move every 2 years.

CC

i would never feel you intend anything that i would take as disrespectful, your just making a point of clarification which is a fact and i typed it incorrect.

But in any case i only respond to the silliness because it helps pass the time when we are slow at work.

donna maybe be looking for another name to come back under lol lol

donna maybe be looking for another name to come back under

Too bad it doesn't realize we're on to it!

CC

well IT can find a new name, i am off to hang out with some buddies at my favorite roof top after the vikings game.

www.7mpls.com if we stay downtown mpls

but if we go uptown mpls we will hang out here http://uptowncafeteria.com/

the gallery has great pics!!

Have a great night and be careful. TTYL!

you two are the definition of morons, Unlike your friend joann who is Shelly I am me, Yes I do agree with some of what Misty says I also agree with Carmen and a few others I suppose I am all of them two. You guys are definitely democrats because they are the only people who in the world that if you disagree with them your a Troll,stupid or now i am five other people who disagree with you. If it makes you feel better ok I am all the people on here who disagree with you. And I am the 20,000 on facebook that support GZ you got me.... @!$%#en Idiots...And a viking fan Enough said

cj, your a government employee aren't you. My tax dollars at work, sheeesh!

Scary huh^^^^ What a waste of tax dollars..

Donna you know damn well you do not posses a passport, don't need one to get to Walmart and chick-fil-a.

Sorry I don't shop at walmart, might run into Ghetto people like you there.

Site please.

What you don't know how to google. As if you would actually listen to it.

O'Mara was trying to teach the misinformed. What he essentially said that most people think stand your ground means just stand there. That's not what it means.

Florida statute 776 is self defense. You can just as easily substitute "self defense hearing" in place of "Stand Your Ground Hearing". Florida statute 776 also doesn't require proof of injuries.

O'Mara mentioned the nose and the back of the head in his statement. He did use the word "reacted"

Nope. O'Mara said it. Faux News is reporting it, too, Carmen. You know, your favorite source for everything "true and reliable"?

O'Mara has suddenly become an educator with the motive of educating the public in legal concepts, Carmen? Looks like he has his hands full trying to defend George Zimmerman. Maybe he'd better leave the teaching alone for awhile. lol

Yea Carmen - I can google it. You made the statement - now prove it! I have actually listened, watched and read just about eveything out there on this case - at least everything I know about, thanks to my friends.

Please for once, just give us the site - otherwise, you need to realize that anything you say from now on will just be considered shyte.

If you can't give the site, then please just STFU!

Carmen doesn't have to support her claims with evidence. She is special, just like Georgie. Didn't you know that? We are supposed to believe everything they say, just because they say it. Doesn't matter how many lies they get caught in.

Fox reporting on not using SYG mentions that he will use self defense at the hearing and also mentions nothing about omara saying Zimmerman was reacting to having his nose broken

carman...did you listen to the short version of the presser or the long (24 min) version ? On the long version (found on WFTV..the whole presser) at 5:01 he states "I think my client reacted to having his nose broken".I love how he says "I think""...doesn't sound like he believes his own client. LOL

Of course Faux News left that little tid bit out. Kind of contradicts what Zim stated in their Hannity interview.

And again, no evidence that Zim had a broken nose. If he reacted to anything, he reacted to getting punched. Poor Georgie. Him got punched in the nose when all him was trying to do was follow a criminal. LOL

I'm enjoying reading all of these intelligent comments. No arguing so to speak! Carmen, NBC is not the only source for O'Mara's no stand your ground. Fox News even covers it.

there is still going to be a hearing to dismiss the case via a self defense strategy - i believe it is still called a syg hearing - from the article you mentioned

Still, he said Monday that the defense team will try to get the case dismissed during a 'stand your ground' hearing.

also

"I think the facts seem to support that though we have a stand-your-ground immunity hearing, what this really is, is a simple, self-defense immunity hearing," the defense attorney said.

Nope. No SYG hearing. Try reading slower next time.

COOL MIKE

You must be the only person who doesn't know NBC edited the 911 tape. Or didn't NBC and Fox News report that for you?

Site please!

CONCERNED CITIZEN wrote

Yea Carmen - I can google it

Then google it. You claim to know everything. Why do you need me to provide everything for you.

Here's a hint; he spoke to the media. Then go read what he wrote on his website.

And make sure you don't get bamboozled again with an edited version.

We aren't discussing a dispatch tape, Carmen. And for the millionth time, Zimmerman was not talking to a 911 dispatcher on that call. He was talking to the non-emergency dispatcher at the Sanford Police Dept.

Please do try to keep up.

CONCERNED CITIZEN

If you can't find it, go back to school.

CONCERNED CITIZEN

It took me seconds to find it.

Then it should take you even less time to tell us what site you found it on.

Carmen is 100% correct NBC doctored the tapes to make Zimmerman look like he was racial profiling. Here is the proof and the site.

Reality is he was attacked by Trevon and defended himself.

Carmen is talking about when NBC played the NEN tape they left out the part where the dispatcher says, "Is he Black White or Hispanic" George responded, "I think he's Black". So all you hear is George making the report that Trayvon is Black, or so he thinks.

LOL - I noticed that also DOCJT It really makes me happy that Justice is revealing herself a little at a time to these people. Sometimes the slower the better. It is easier for some to comprehend that way.

They obviously are still sitting, stunned, in front of their computer monitors. They didn't see that blow coming, lol!

@DOCJT you took the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH!! I've been here for months now reading these posts and heart broken at the same time while setting back reading how they disregard and disrespected a young minor/child's life like that because the COLOR OF HIS SKIN. Trayvon Martin was a child regardless and minding his own business. Funny how the trolls trolled (making up my own words here) out on this one.

Or in laymans terms, baiters.

Baiters? Please do elaborate.

Agreed, sdmom. Judge Lester was under no legal mandate to grant a second bail after George had already been found to have violated the conditions of the first bail agreement. I'd have kept his sorry a$$ in jail until trial if it had been me. Then O'Mara and Zim would have something to whine about.

O'Mara said. "I think the facts suggest in this case that what probably happened was my client was reacting to having his nose broken."

Zimmerman's alleged broken nose there is no proof his nose was ever broken , because Zimmerman refused to have x-rays taken..

Seriously, brownsuga. Which is it? "I shot him because he was pounding my head into the concrete." or "I shot him because he punched me in the nose." Wah, wah!

Could be. Or could just be one of those lonely women/men who are attracted to criminals.

Everyone should find love. Even you duck.

Whassa matter, kpm. Big Shellie not answering your email?

Or she could just believe he is innocent like alot of people do ..