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Michael Mendez, here in an undated photo provided by the New Jersey State Police, allegedly kept his 44-year-old girlfriend captive in a padlocked room. Police found the woman during a drug raid.
New Jersey state troopers say a woman may have been padlocked in the bedroom of her boyfriend's northern New Jersey home for as long as 10 years.
Members of the State Police Street Gang unit were searching the home in Paterson, N.J. for drugs on Thursday when they entered the locked bedroom in the third-floor walk-up and found Michael Mendez’s 44-year-old girlfriend.
There was a pail in the room, apparently used as a chamber pot. Police said the woman also had a television and a telephone inside her padlocked room, and Mendez would let her out of the room when he was home.
Neighbors in the public housing complex said they had no idea the woman was being held captive.
"That's something new to me," said Stephanie Ramos. "It's scary. It doesn't make sense, not coming from him."
Read the original story at NBCNewYork.com
"She came outside once in a blue," said another neighbor of Mendez's girlfriend. She was always with him, the neighbor said, "but they go to the car together sometimes."
Others said they sometimes saw the woman outside by herself, but only on rare occasions.
New Jersey State Police spokesman Brian Polite said investigators believe the woman was kept in the bedroom for extended periods of time for the last two years and up to 10 years.
State Police said they also found what they were looking for: 4,200 prescription pills worth $100,000 and $22,000 in cash.
Mendez has been charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, among other crimes.
The woman is receiving a medical evaluation.
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How can the author of this article call the woman locked in a room this person's "girlfriend?" Wouldn't the correct word be captive? Or slave?
The Author watches jersey shore and that is how they see it....
Did this women not having any family? Because nobody wonder where she was.
It's possible they knew where she was, just not the conditions she was there under. It's not like she's a missing child, she tells you she lives with her bf, you take her word on it. Chamber pots and locked doors probably never came up.
I don't understand if she had a phone in her room why didn't she call 911?
right on spot pat.
she had a phone, access to the outdoors, and i seen my neighbors on rare occasions because we all have jobs, and a life outside of living at our neighbors. unlike ghetto, jobless, welfare areas some political parties have been trying to put us in.
I was wondering the same thing.
These comments seem a bit different than the ones posted about the Czech in West Virginia who allegedly held his wife captive. Sounded like a lynch mob then. And now the police are picking on poor little drug dealers? Hmmmmmm. Don't suppose his ethnic background comes into play.
Consider this:
One: Not asking for help. Stockholm syndrome may be a possibility in these cases
Two: Not communicating. She may have a mental disability, thereby making her unable to 'consent'. The article doesn't give name or any other details about her, which leads me to believe she could be a 'vulnerable adult' and either couldn't ommunicate with her rescuers or couldn't communicate well.
Three: The phone. He could have blocked outgoing calls and made sure that only incoming ones got through--the call from work telling her to have dinner ready for him when he came in, for example.
Four: The padlock on the door. Any attempt to restrict the free movement of another individual pretty much is kidnapping unless the person restricting the movement is a licensed professional under supervision (mental hospitals, prisons, jails, etc.) Anything else is kidnapping. He is definitely NOT a licensed professional.
Five: The chamber pot. She had to pee in a container because they wouldn't let her out to go to the bathroom, obviously. Right there should be an indicator!
Six:If he has sex wih her on a regular basis, or allows buddies to have sex with her, with or without monetary gain, that's forced prostitution, facilitation, and, if she lived ten years ago in another state, human trafficking (after it crosses state lines.) If she is a 'vulnerable adult' (some form of disability) it would be entirely appropriate.
Please think about all of this before you dismiss it as nonsense, and don't rush to judge. Wait until all the facts are known.
"you give the generalities spewed about VA new life." VA? That was West Virginia. They're different states, you know. I'm always amused by people who insult West Virginia and its people, but who refer to the state as VA.
Proud W VA
there is a difference between this story and the W VA one. This one she had a phone, was seen outside by herself, something doesn't sound right about it. Now the story in your back woods was very different. The girl was beaten, raped, chained up....BIG difference
Gotta love some of you armchair psychologists who think you know what you're talking about. Yes I'm sure that you'd just pick up the phone, call 911, and be rescued. But you are not them. In this country, why do we have so many women who are with men that batter them to within an inch of their lives, yet won't leave them? For every story we hear about a woman killing her abuser, we see 20 where they stay and take it for any number of reasons, whether it's because kids are involved, or dependency issues whatever. It's not because they like the abuse.
I suspect she had an addiction to the the pills, he would keep her locked up when he was out to keep her from skimming from the stash or over dosing.
Isn't every chick who is involved with a drug dealer one way or another, "captives" anyways?
@Patsycamoure3
"I hope he can get a good lawyer who can defend him against all this "kidnapping" bs.
The police in this country have gone nuts."
What the hell is wrong with you people. The cops raid a drug dealers house and find 4,200 prescription pills worth $100,000, $22,000 in cash and a girl locked in a room with no bathroom and made to go in a chamber pot and you think the cops are the ones in the wrong. Are you really that stupid?
@News98
Your reading skills suck. ProudWestVirginian was commenting on the other people that are apparently on the drug dealers side. He was being sarcastic, and I know sometimes it's hard to tell when written instead of spoken but this time it was clear as day.
Amanda needs a strong cup of coffee. Or a life
This sounds like another case of the police fiction fiction writer spinning a yarn. The made up story will be used in court where it will become reality. If she had a phone, she wasn't a prisoner, unless she felt safer with her captor, than the NJ police.
How is my pointing out reasons for how this could be construed by the police as kidnapping indicative of my need for caffeine or my lack of a 'life'?
If you have a problem with my logic, please let me know--I haven't read any other articles but this one, and perhaps something you saw on another article,or even if you know the woman in question, might indicate that any of the possibilities in my above post are inconceivable.
And as I pointed out above, the phone could have been not working, or it could have been blocked so that no outgoing calls can be made.
amanda...coulda, woulda, shoulda! My point is that police "make up" stories that are within the realm of possibility, but not nessesarily true. By the time the "fictional" story makes it to court, the story is accepted as the truth. Your fictional take on the situation could even become the truth.
They said that there was a phone in the room but they didn't say whether it worked or not.
As for women leaving abusive men, anyone who has an ounce of compassion and knowledge of those situations knows that when a battered woman leaves her abuser it's the most dangerous time. The abuser sees his control of her slipping away so he feels like he has to do anything to control her again, even killing her. After all, she's a posession, like a car, a sofa, or a dog, right?
What is wrong in our country now? Blame the victim is so easy. Unless you have been in a similar situation you don't know what you would do. We all need to stop being so judgemental. We need to mind our own business and wait until all the facts come out rather than decide what happened and post it.
Remember: It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.
Some people. like Amanda, have sympathy and empathy. Others just want to be thought of as clever or even snarky. Try the sympathy instead. It is better for all of us.
This entire article is sad. From the drug dealer who thinks it's ok to hook our children on his poison to the woman chained in the room. Just sad.
i see a lot of people making points to more defend the topic of possibility, than if the guy was a drug dealer. and a good topic.
i am all for tossing the book at a criminal, but for things he/she did, not anything else.
he was busted dead to rights for possesion, and if that woman wanted to be there of her own free will, thats her and the guy they arrested' buisness. like the woman who was supposedly held captive, and forced to strip... what ever became of that? i never heard anything other than even SHE was there of her own free will. but police thought otherwise.
i do however agree, that unless a person found like actually has an actual job, and this has been the norm for some time, of his/her choice, then a trip to see a therapist is in order to be sure, otherwise drop it. people pay good money to have the sickest things done to them.... why? i have no clue, but to them its what... keeps their world turning or something.
with that i say "is what it is, just wont make it my biz". we all have a different view on life, and that is our right within reason.
@MNBadGirl,
now.. maybe i missed a couple of posts, read too hastily, but who is the victim in this article? they could have been role playing for all anyone knows... not talking about the drugs involed, only the woman in the room, and why she MIGHT have been there. if this was a thing they did with her concent, and even her idea, then charging him with kidnapping and unlawful incarceration or anything related would make this guy a victim.
say it went this way instead....
police serving a warrant at the wrong address (more than a few times a year), upon searching the home found... (the rest of the story surrounding her being in the room as we know being told thus far....... what then?
well if HE was holding her against her will, i am all for giving him the max. yet what if it was something she liked? we HAVE heard even on MSNBC stranger stories. and thats just what kids can read or see on the news. try going to a porn site and do a search on the most disturbing things.... it will be there.
of course i think there maybe a need to investigate, but... if its consentual, mutual agreement, it is what it is.
Another fake story by the media and the cops.........
You can set up a cell phone to call only one certain number or a couple of numbers. These types of phones are bought by parents for their children. The parents numbers and 911 are the only ones programed for the phone to call. So yes, it's possible that she had a phone but did NOT have the ability to call 911.
All cell phones are made to be able to dial 911 regardless of status or make. That's a fail safe in case something happens and you need to call it. That's how it was explained to me when we asked about cell phones for our sons who walk a fair distance to school.
This should serve as a lesson to us all. Before you play, ALWAYS establish a 'safe word' AND a time limit!
;-)
learned helplessness
Not to take anything away from the crime, but it sure sounds like she had many many opportunities to sneak away, call the police, or hide somewhere. Just a weird story all around.
makin' his waaaaaay...............the only way he knows how
......and that's just a little bit more than the law will allow
Taking the phrase, "If I can't have you, no one can!" literally.
Learned Helplessness,
That is a very good description of how women in general are conditioned to even embrace such domination. I have known grown women as a social worker that would provide their own daughters to her father, the grandfather for the purpose of sex. In the public's eye, the family looked normal, but in truth both she and the father were monsters. The Children will grow up thinking this behavior is true love and the cycle will continue.
Muslim women are another good example as they are willfully mutilated by the caregivers and treated as property throughout their lives.
The freedoms women have in western culture is abnormal as compared to many parts of the world. Chinese culture used to bind the feet of infant and young girls as a form of beautification even though the child's life will be filled with pain. China can be commended for its progressive changes in the last century.
I read so many case histories where women are willfully dominated by insecure men wanting to hug their mommy. The Islamic culture still embraces the tortures of the culture of the ancient times as upheld in the text of the Old Testament. They rewrote the Hebrew texts and renamed it the Koran, but it is just another version of the ignorant hate and brutality of the times three thousand years ago.
Women will accept the death of themselves and their children because of their dedication to the culture and person that dominates their life. Much like the "Honor Killing" practice where a woman will allow their children to be murdered in the name of a hateful culture and in the name of God.
Lazarus
She had a telephone and television? Does that sound a little nonsensical?
nobody said they worked
Especially the telephone! Was it working? She was seen outside of the house by herself, so she could have called 911 and given them some indication of where she was (plus they can trace the call). She would have seen that on tv. Something weird going on.
She was probably being a dutiful girlfriend and just did whatever that jerk wanted. It is amazing what some people will do.
Abused people are often basically brainwashed by their abusers. Could be she feared the possible consequences if she atempted to leave or tell anybody how she was being treated. This story lacks in many importantt details to actually have a true picture to make any judgement about. We'll probaly never even see much of a follow up story if there is one at all.
Stockholm syndrome is the most likely reason for her behavior. Either way hope she gets help and at least she is away from her drug dealing captor.
If he had pills worth that much money they must of been OxyContin. He might of had her strung out on them & she was afraid to leave her supplier.
just going to put this one out there.....
i met a gal about 1 yr ago. she wanted to be basically my sex slave. er... i am not really into the sado macho whatever, kinky is fine, but... i couldnt really be quite a master to her as she wanted so i broke it off.
before making claim this guy was actually keeping her captive against her will... take in mid she was seen alone, had a phone, tv, and one might think being an upstairs bedroom, even a small window in the least. not to mentio the heat in a locked room with no windows in an upstairs house or other would kill her unless she had air conditioning...
i think along the lines of waiting for the full story (that we will never see nor hear) before making accusations?
In his homeland? He lives here. No mention has been made of of his national origin, and just because one has a Latino last name doesn't mean they are from Mexico (look at Tony Romo, Mark Sanchez; they have Latino last names, are part Mexican, but are US citizens.)
He could be Dominican. Puerto Rican. Colombian. Brazilian. Phillipino. And none of those countries allow you to keep someone captive in locked rooms legally. It is just as much a crime in any of the above-named countries as it is here.
No sense in reasoning with news98, as he has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. To him everyone not having a european last name is not from the US. Not to mentioned being brainwashed himself.
ill go out on a limb and say perhaps news98 is a woman who basically hates most men, and i need say no more. that or been in a closet all his life.
sry to pop your big bubble 98... but truth is, there are ALL KINDS out there. "ALL KINDS", and i have seen, and met stranger. there are water sports, and scat, and just stuff that would make almost, ALMOST anyone's tummy do gymnastics.. so, obviously you have not been out much, or something.
Do a check on Munchousen's disease (sp) and some of you may understand why she did not leave. It's called identifying with your captive after a while of captivity.
He held the key to her heart...literally.
She was captivated by his padlocked charms.
So very very sad. Much damage has been caused to this human being. May the rest of her life be pleasant.
Did the phone work?
Sounds like Master and Servant. Some people are into that. Or he fed her addiction.
People don't understand the depth of control and consequences that having someone abuse and hold another person captive entails. For instance, they see the victim having a phone and assume she could have easily called out for help.But don't understand, perhaps how often she had been beaten if she didn't answer if when he called to check on her. Or he told her it was watching what she was doing. Not a hard thing to convince someone by showing them a clip on ones own cell phone secretly taken while the victim wasn't looking and sent to her phone. All it takes then is for the perpetrator to show the video on her phone to convince her the phone can "see" what she is doing 24/7. He could have said the neighbors were his friends and kept a watch on the place. If they thought she was causing problems they would call him and he would come up to handle her. The television also makes sense if one wants to mask out sounds of crying, distress, etc. Neighbors outside would hear the noise and then the perpetrator could say it was just some video he had been watching. Nothing more. It also keeps her occupied if he provides her only with videos to watch, and controlling her access to the outside world. Making up any story of what is happening to society.
Similar cases of long-term confinement how mental degradation and dependency by the victim who is unable to believe she is ever going to be free or else that loved ones will be killed if she attempts to escape. Truly this is a horrible case. How fortunate the police found her. Sometimes victims are killed and disappear, never being discovered or until decades later.
Sounds like you've done some of these things..
Well that's an odd response...perhaps they're professionally involved in these types of cases?
We had a case in Upstate NY where a man kidnapped several women, perhaps as many as a dozen, over the course of 20 years, and held them in a bunker he had built below his basement. He'd train them thru torture and rape to basically do everything he said then eventually start being seen in public with them. The ones we know of, he eventually released (who knows what darker deeds may have occurred). Police basically dismissed the ones who reported the crimes as being drug addicts and run aways.He was eventually caught while taking the last victim shopping.
I wonder what they would have had to say to this woman had she escaped on her own.
Windancersong and Capt Tripps, thank you! People keep saying, "oh she wasn't captive, she had a phone!" Abusers have SO much control, especially after YEARS of abuse. He could have convinced her that the phone was tapped and he could hear her calls, etc. Plus, she was seen outside without him. That doesn't mean he didn't let her out himself. Maybe he was watching from a window. It doesn't mean she was alone. People don't seem to care about the hell captives go through. I've read Jaycee Dugard's book. It shows very well why a victim won't always take advantage of opportunities. She would go out on errands with him and she had access to the internet (in the later years). You just don't know unless you're in the situation.
I can't connect having access to a telephone with being held captive.
Some people take their captives to the grocery store. Doesn't say whether the phone was connected to outside the apartment. Might have been how he communicated with her, if the walls were sealed/sound proof.
It's called the Stockholm Syndrome....
Elizabeth Smart or Casey Dugard ring any bells with you. Casey Dugard was a long term captive even forced into bearing the children of the scumbag that kidnapped her. She may have had many chances to get away but was too afraid to do so. In that case nobody did anything to help her either even though some knew something strange was going on at that home. Neighbors never did much when they knew the freak had an encampment in his backyard. He and his sicko wife had a lot of mind control, physical and mental abuse and threats to control Casey.
If this is what it takes for some of you to get a girlfriend someone needs to whack off your Bobbitt and lock you in a room with other bobbitless members.
No.
This is why prostitution should be legalized so that
men need not resort to such extremes to get their
"needs" met.
This guy for example might have had his "needs" met for $200 per session.
Prostitutes wouldn't be safe, either. This isn't about sex, it's about control.
Prostitution is often just another form of slavery. Try googling how most prostitutes live. Real world is you wouldn't want that life or want it for someone you love - say your daughter or sister - so why is it ok to impose it upon another woman who finds herself trapped into it by personal problems?
Sandungo, Experience in law enforcement helps, working with victims of abuse over a long period of time, and higher education.But is never makes it easier to deal with.
Did anyone catch that this was happening in public housing?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
In public housing, one lives with a lot more eyes watching them from a much closer distance than in an urban or rural setting. It just seems it would be too hard to hide something like this.
Seems to me that generally speaking, people of public housing never see anything.
I don't care if it happened in the Hamptons, I care that this woman was, more than likely, a victim of a sadistic piece of human excrement who is also a controlling psychopath. Don't judge his "girlfriend" too quickly for there is much to be learned about the why and how of her issues in this debacle. Having been the victim of domestic abuse to the point of having a gun put to my head, I can tell you with great authority, brainwashing works! I'm just happy to hear she's now free from that monster of a "boyfriend."
asknreceive1-1054310
I get ya, but I think your judgement is a bit clouded by your emotional experience. It does matter where it took place, as someone wasn't doing their job. This may have been discovered sooner.
Have the police never heard of wholesale prices?
Just more typical American acceptance of sociopathic behavior, making jokes because you lack even the most basic forms human compassion.
now that is a harsh and undeserved generalization. In the face of indescribable pain, sometimes the only outlet is dark humor.
I think your only partly correct there Jean. Some of these commentors are NOT concerned about anyone or anything but themselves and their own opinions and take on things. Some people just aren't capable of feeling compassion, empathy, sympathy etc.. and just love to hate on others.
Not necessarily a joke-may be a reference to human trafficking...
Joseph-2187076
Give it a rest dude, doesn't it hurt a bit having your panties pulled up so tight? Your negative attitude just drags everyone around them down.
Sick. I hope this poor woman has family/somewhere to go, and receives help. I cannot imagine. My heart goes out to her. <3
I'm with Koatz on this one, can't call her a captive if she can call 911 at anytime.
It's called the Stockholm Syndrome.... Remember Elizabeth Smart in Utah?
Your just wrong Johnnym75.
The two young women that were held captive had access to a phone. The one that was held for 10 years and had kids with her captor even worked for him on the internet for his printing business. She had become so broken and brainwashed that she just did not even think of calling for help. The girl that was held for a year was even taken out in public but never called for help. Never underestimate the power of control and abuse on a human being.
I don't understand why people can't imagine that the phone was probably more like a shackle than a line out. Simple-minded, perhaps? He probably kept in touch with her when he was gone, and had her convinced that he had total control over her and that no one could help her without somebody dying. She probably accepted it as the way things are supposed to be. Same as a woman who stays with a drunk who beats her.
I hope they fry the guy. There is no man in him, just a mean, insecure monster.
I was in an abusive relationship for nearly 5 years. Although I was not locked in a room, I can completely relate to the mental state of a person who has been beaten and manipulated to a point where they have zero self-esteem and fear for their life or the lives of their loved ones, if she (or he, because men can be victims of abuse too) left the relationship.
Linda-you said "was". So your out of that realtionship. Good for you and good luck. Hopefully you someday find somebody you can trust and love who treats you well. Also hope you find inner strength to be the best you can and do whats in your best interest regardless of having a relationship or not.
Linda is correct about the manipulation. You can be in an abusive relationship when you live with a sociopath and not even know you are being abused. They can twist you up until you believe that you are the abnormal one for wanting anything that's, well,... normal. It's amazing the tricks your mind can play on you through their sick manipulation.
And it really makes me sick that some of the people posting here seem to think this is the woman's fault. She will need good therapy for a long time, and lots of love and caring, to ever be capable of seeing life any other way than the way she's been living. Poor soul...
One has to be held responsible for the choices one makes. She did not call 911 while he was away, which would have been a sure release from her captivity. Ergo, she was OK with the situation she was in.
Spoken like someone that has never suffered psychological abuse at the hands of another. In fact, spoken like an abuser: it's always the victim's 'fault' and if the victim didn't like the situation, they would leave. I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard that one.
Yes, a person does have to be responsible for their choices, but in cases of psychological abuse, there often is no "choice": that factor alone is what makes psychological abuse unique. Judging and guilt-tripping these victims is just more abuse.
Sadly paddywhack, you want to feel a victim. The woman in question knew very well that a phone call would have taken away her cost of living that were being paid by her boyfriend, sex that she may even have enjoyed, and other benefits. She took the good with the bad. But considerations like that are not allowed in your mind.
Mr. Mendez should not only serve jail time, he deserves to be castrated, as do all sex offenders. She obviously could have made a run for it on the times she was "out of the box", but mentally uncapable to do so.....I hope he gets what he rightfully deserves...life in prison, castration, short leash, early death.
Perhaps she is retarded or mentally ill and that he is keeping
her in the best condition he is able because he loves her.
He did leave her with a phone after all.
Perhaps her fate is far sadder after she leaves his care.
If I am right, than this poor woman may be sleeping outdoors
on the street, or worse, within a year.
Good points, JEM. Even if she is not retarded, after this kind of long-term confinement and whatever else was going on, she is mentally ill. I hope social services will be part of the medical eval they spoke of in the article. Otherwise, she will most likely go right back to this guy whenever he gets out of jail.
Hah! good one nn, social services taking care of people in America? That's freakin hilarious! We don't take care of our own anymore.
Nice wishful thinking though, you must still be stuck in the 70's.
Yes, he left her with a phone, TV, but he couldn't even set it up so she had access to a bathroom. Best condition would have been to give her access to a bathroom instead of leaving her with a chamberpot that had to stink at the end of a day.
She has family. If she is a vulnerable adult she will be placed in their care, since they apparently did a decent job of raising her. She told them she was moving in with her boyfriend, they didn't really remark, but now this has come out I'm positive they'll take her in as soon as she's released from custody.
Amanda;
It is unrealistic to assume she had family, or that she had decent up-bringing. It doesn't say in the article that she told her family anything; they may actually know nothing of where she is. One trick manipulators use is to convince you that you are better off staying away from your family (and friends), the better to isolate you.
And you, Hannibal, with all due respect, are clueless. Social services, whether on staff at the hospital, or through outside non-profits, are generally part of the plan in Domestic Abuse cases, and will remain so as long as we keep the Republicans out of the White House.
First off, I never saw this elusive woman they were talking about, they must have mixed up the photo's with the guy who was arrested, so it's a bit confusing there.
Also, the "girlfriend" was supposed to "look like" she was locked up so she wouldn't be charged and could get out and continue on with the family business and attend to his lawyers etc..
This whole thing is a ruse if you ask me. Had a telephone and was seen by herself in public.. I don't buy it. No matter how controlling someone is, she could have gotten out if she really wanted.
Dude you haven't got the first clue what you are talking about. Several have posted very reasonable scenarios as to why this woman may have stayed and these things absolutely DO happen in real life. You are STUCK on your opinion assuming you're right and refuse to listen and attempt to comprehend any other point of view. Part of what is wrong with this country today!!!! Know it alls who listen to a media report that's vague at best, missing all kinds of information, including any kind of interview with this woman or medical report regarding her captivity and deciding you KNOW EVERYTHING AND HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS!!!
According to Obama, this is all Paul Ryan's fault. He's behind this.
Right, Obama told you that himself when he visited you last night with Elvis and that giant rabbit that you like to hang out with. Take more pills. Please.
for me,, the fear that my children would be killed,, was enough to keep me from talking. he had many guns,, and when his threats to kill me quit working he started on my boys. to keep them from talking he threatened to kill their mother if they said anything. this went on for 10 years.. i was so scared,,, i picked my boys up from school early and ran., and got a divorce... he continued to harass me by phone, then he would sic social services on me, call the schools feed them bs. he was all about control...no one said no to him. well that bastard is dead.. i should have shot him in his sleep,, but i was afraid i would miss. 2 years after i found my freedom,, he got cancer. could not have happened to a better person... after he died,,some of the guys he worked with,,told me how he bragged,,about terrorizing his family,, they thought he was just full of hot air... of course he didn't tell them about shoving guns into the back of my head or putting his knife to my throat...and did i mention he was twice the size of me. i have never trusted a man since.
Gee, I'm locked in a room for years with a telephone in it. What to do....
Must the conclusion not be that she agreed to the situation?
NO. We don't even know if that phone was able to process OUTGOING calls or not. Kind of need aLL the facts before ASSUMING and you know what they say about ass-u-ming!!
Niko-grow up!
Jaycee Dugard had access to the internet during her captivity. You cannot comprehend the control a captor/abuser has over his/her victim.
"NO. We don't even know if that phone was able to process OUTGOING calls or not. Kind of need aLL the facts before ASSUMING and you know what they say about ass-u-ming!!
Niko-grow up!"
People also say things about rudeness, skrewdworld. Yours was personal, and you tell ME to grow up?