Report: US government weighs using battlefield blimps at Mexico border

© Lucas Jackson / Reuters / Reuters, file

A sandstorm blows past an inflatable blimp inside Forward Operating Base Joyce in Afghanistan's Kunar Province in June.

Dozens of surveillance blimps now being used on the battlefield in Afghanistan and Iraq could be deployed on the border with Mexico under a new joint initiative by the American military and border patrol officials, the Wall Street Journal reported.

If tests overseen by the military over the next few weeks are successful, the Department of Homeland Security would deploy 72-foot-long, unmanned surveillance blimps to help trace drug traffickers and those trying to enter the United States illegally, the newspaper reported on Tuesday.


The helium-filled drones have drifted over military bases throughout Afghanistan and Iraq for years, the Wall Street Journal reported. Often floating some 2,000-feet above above ground, they are equipped with cameras, infrared sensors and other hardware to help keep an eye on militants, insurgents and troops in battle, according to the newspaper. 

Border Patrol unveils first new strategy in 8 years

With bases in Afghanistan shutting down, the aircraft are part of an enormous trove of military equipment set to leave the country over the next two years, the Wall Street Journal reported.  

Heavily armed boats from Texas are now patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border along the Rio Grande. NBC's Charles Hadlock reports.

Drug smuggling tunnels discovered between US and Mexico

If the tests go well, the military could give Homeland Security dozens of blimps and surplus equipment worth $27 million, the newspaper reported.  Border officials are already using military hardware along the border with Mexico, such as unarmed Predator drones, the Wall Street Journal said. 

The surveillance drones were being offered free of charge, Mark Borkowski, assistant commissioner at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Technology Innovation and Acquisition, told the paper.

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Blimps are a good start, but how about more boots on the ground and a wall to keep out the drug runners and the illegals.

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#1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

These blimps would do nothing but provide for some target practice for the smugglers. This has been a big problem with these blimps over in Afghanistan and it would only be worse with the drug cartels. It would not be long before they ran out of money for the constant repairs of bullet holes in the blimps. Unlike in Afghanistan, the border patrol can not shoot across the border at the cartel members firing at the blimps. The only way to secure the border is to finish the border fence and place more armed personnel along the border. And they need to weld the fence panels in place so they can not simply be jacked up as has occurred in some places. Part of the fence was built in such a way that the fence panels sat between posts with channels in them to hold the panels but the panels were not secured to the posts in any way. This allowed them to simply slide up in the post channels by placing jacks underneath them. Talk about a stupid design!!!

  • 18 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

Add using drones with Hellfire missles. It is wide open in alot of areas and the target practice would be a side benefit.

  • 26 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

The blimps are a good start to more border enforcement. We do need a fence system, not just a fence, from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. This "fence" should be a multi-barrier structure - multiple fences manned and equipped to actually stop illegal immigration. One or more of them could be electrified. Manned and unmanned patrols will be needed. Once this is in place, we can then go about the business of finding the illegal aliens in our country and pitch them back across the border because then they won't be able to get back. Until such a barrier is in place, all illegal aliens have to do to come back is walk north.

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

Where can we sign up for one of those "unmanned patrols?

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

I think these blimps will be shot down using high powered rifle that the cartel have.

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:16 AM EDT
Comment author avatarNimrod-3332091Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The blimps will be very useful for the border. I have to say that the current administration is doing an exceptionally good job at getting things done.

  • 16 votes
#1.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

About f..king time US government started shifting resources from pointless wars overseas to protecting it's own borders.

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

Give it a rest!

Blimps are a good start, but how about more boots on the ground and a wall to keep out the drug runners and the illegals.

How about a government that actually enforces the laws, convicts criminals, and deports illegal aliens automatically when they are discovered.

  • 50 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

Unless the site has been taken down, they've had one of these blimps at Ft. Huachuca, AZ since the mid-80s.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

mpa-4893349

Where can we sign up for one of those "unmanned patrols?

All those unmanned patrols have already been filled by our great politicians.

  • 8 votes
#1.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

Let me make sure I get this straight, Denver Bill, you would rather the drugs and illegals get in the country first, so that you can spend money filling up jails and deporting people, rather than keep the drugs and illegals out in the first place. Or do you think that laws to prevent people from doing things that they are hell bent on doing, like sneaking in the country or trafficking drugs are a deterrent? Or do you just like complaining about this administration or ANY administration for that matter? Help me understand.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

With all the bullet holes in the blimps from across the border ... It should be a great benefit to the blimp & helium industry! ..... LOL

Isn't it just time to decimalize American Grow Marijuana ... and end this foolish prohibition & drug wars?

  • 10 votes
#1.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:21 AM EDT
Comment author avatarculheathExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Wouldn't this money be better spent teaching people to speak Spanish so they could enjoy more of the cable channels they get? The only good thing I see about the blimp idea is that they will provide shade for weary travelers.

Other wise, Moonbeamracer is on the right course...decriminalize drugs AND set up clinics to counsel white men how to accept being a minority without their heads exploding over finally being in the minority by 2030...it could even be a special cable channel...in Spanish of course. Soccer, anyone?

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

I think the blimps will help and or a good additional but others are right there is that chance that they could be shot down. Eitherway though glad to see this equipment being reused in lieu of buying more, selling it for pennies on the dollar and then buying more, or leaving it to rot in warehouse and then probably buying more. Love the part about free of charge? Its the government either way, nothing but transfer of assets from one dept to another.

Anyways this is a good use for these blimps and drones. Don't want them flying over my house but the border is a good place. As far as unarmed, I say arm the predator drones they are using and inform Mexico that from now on any shots fired across our border will be returned and then some. I think it needs to be anything within a mile or two (where possible) is an area where lethal force can be used (by cops, BP, Army, ect) when fired upon.

Otherwise we need to continue start to go after the root of the problem or this won't mean squat. Start enforcing the laws we have, tighter gun control to stop the straw buyers, de-criminalize marijuana, amend the 14th amendment, and fix the flaws in the fences (running it the whole length of the border, not sure that really makes sense, in border cities and for several miles beyond, yes), and then put more boots on the ground (ie the ARMY).

That would be a start. There is more we could do to address the legal immigration side and workers visa's but that is for another post.

It is time

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
Comment author avatarzuksamExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This is our government they thought long and hard on how they could blow some money while still remaining ineffective and they've done it. Let's get serious just two fences with a mine field in between and sensors to alert us when a mine blows someone up (so we can replace the mine). If you do something do it right, right now their just playing silly games. If you want to secure a border ask the experts Russia they knew what they were doing.

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

Someone in Washington must have gotten a political contribution from the blimp manufacturer.

  • 10 votes
#1.16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

This country is SO screwed up when it comes to border sercurity! We have NO deterrants to those who want to come over illegally!! We hardly use E-Verify, now two million kids illegally here can have two years to live here without being deported. OK, what happens AFTER those two years are up? Now they can be deported? The birthright citizenship thing is being so abused by illegals, it HAS to change! Check those who commit crimes for thier immigration staus, and deport them if found here illegally! No wonder illegals are confused! I am confused!!!

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

The government doesn't want to defend the borders. The Democrats don't want to block a source of votes for them, and the Republicans want a fresh supply of workers that can be exploited. It is good news that the Military is putting surplus equipment to use instead of the usual method of leaving it behind for current and future enemies.

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

Cappy-1911

Let me make sure I get this straight, Denver Bill, you would rather the drugs and illegals get in the country first, so that you can spend money filling up jails and deporting people, rather than keep the drugs and illegals out in the first place.

Nice interpretation of my post. I would prefer that the drugs and illegals not be here in the first place. Now lets talk about what is rather than what we would like. The drugs and illegals that are already here are the problem. Are you so naive that you think that blimps are going to stop them before they cross the border? And do you really believe that, if they evade these marvelous new weapons of detection, they should be allowed to stay?

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

Blimps, Boot, Guns, guts,

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

These kind of blimps have been used for a long time. Living close to a border, I have seen these within the last 18 years.

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

It's a start. Next activate National Guard Units to do what the name implies, Guard the Nation, perform their two weeks Annual Training Patrolling the border. Rotate the units frequently and provide the opportunity to excel at that which the Military does best. Build a solid wall similar to the wall Israel built along the Palestinian border. A wall is far less expensive than numerous multimilion welfare programs established to assist the criminals who cross the border illegally. And yes anyone who enters the US illegally is a criminal not an immigrant! Place a 50 meter minefield on both sides of the wall and maintain a fire fire zone along the border. America, either take this Mexican invasion seriously or learn Spanish the choice is yours Amigo ( friend).

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

None of this matters if you have a POTUS no willing to enforce and protect the rightful citizens of the USA. I can't believe so many people give this guy a pass when it comes to immigration. His policies have totally destroyed the wage structure of many jobs that are in the construction field. Illegals have played a very large part in the loss of many homes.

Look at what goes on inside the "Beltway" where many people work for the Federal government. The prices of homes are still on the rise because people living in that area code aren't bothered by the many problems caused with their economic policies. This time it is time for change. Change back to the AMERICAN WAY of doing things and not the socialist ways of Obama and Co.

Obama=the worst POTUS EVER!!!

  • 5 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

This media source has the whole story wrong, as usual. The real story was: The US explose the use of Pimps along the Mexican border.

  • 1 vote
#1.28 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

I can understand the drones use in wars since you have enemies you want to track.They are busy looking for your soldiers. They’re not worried about what is high above they know isn't dangerous with weapons, while their mobility options fluctuates. They aren’t interested in protecting a steady long-term profit source to make a living because that requires a stable society.They are interested in creating a power base for ruling. But flip the scenario to border crossing and drug smuggling. Now you have someone that doesn't want to be tracked period, has an investment to safe guard, knows your drone is unarmed like a a sitting duck to take out.

Soldiers are not the same as civilians and may under estimate them by far. Some will be highly motivated and funded people. They will be able to inflict high damage quickly from both sides of the border at those drones if they are used, remaining difficult to detect. If you have a limited resource, you need to use it to best advantage while keeping it as safe as possible. Unless you can provide a quick response time, you need to weight the benefits. A string of these would cover more areas cheaply then a wall and keep people safer on the ground. It also would give advance notice of ground movement. So there are definitely advantages no doubt. Even if a couple drones were lost, those that helped pick up and stop illegal movement would prove,some benefits are better than none. We have paid a heavy price in terms of innocent lives lost, costs to society and should know by now; how often we have miscalculated what determined individuals can accomplish.

We have a revolving door or escalator of illegal aliens entering this country. I’m waiting for the express elevator and this just might make it possible should ground support be cutback and replaced by drones. All the whistles and bells mean nothing if the man watching the screen isn't paying attention. Or he doesn’t have the manpower to back it up.Haven't we seen before, the more we depend on the machine to do our job, the easier it becomes to jam the works with a simple object? In fact I am surprised we don't have a disease called Illegal Syndrome recognized by the CDC. From official refusal to take a stand and do whatcitizens demand. Enforce what is on the books,toughen penalties for crimes committed. Not let corporations and special interests take over their brains and votes so much. Of course it's isolated among politician, people in power and businesses which hire illegal people under the table. Come to think of it,the CDC does get support from many of those sources.Must be why they have a vaccine.

  • 2 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIan Sheretvia Facebook

Fort Huachuca near Sierra Vista Arizona has been flying a blimp for around 30 years now. So it is tested and seems to work. But what happens when the cartels start shooting them down?

  • 2 votes
#1.30 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

Last year saw the highest number of people ever deported: 387,790, up from 116,782 in 2001 and 349,041 in 2008. Thus far this year, some 185,887 people have been deported, a record pace that, if maintained, will nearly double the number of deportations in 2010 to 604,133. The Administration has also doubled the number of agents assigned to the Border Enforcement Security Task Force and tripled intelligence analysts along the Southwest border.

(--TIME magazine, May 10, "Why GOP Senators Won't Play on Immigration Reform

    #1.31 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

    Dear Members of the Press: CHECK YOUR FACTS.

    We ALREADY use radar blimps at the border. How do I know? I fly by one every time I travel from LA to Texas - there is one in New Mexico and one in Arizona. You can easily verify this fact by looking at N32°1.29' W107°51.88' . . . unmarked radar balloon to 15000MSL

    • 2 votes
    #1.32 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

    Tracy Warner 766

    Culheath-----------Maybe we will become a minority and maybe we won't, just keep your mouth running

    There's no maybe about it...it's just math...whitey's had his oppressive run and now it's over...next. Personally I can't wait for the turnover.

    • 2 votes
    #1.33 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:18 AM EDT

    Perhaps we could have another "Fast and Furious" program for SAM missles. Of course, the DOJ would not know anything about the new program. But it is such a logical extension of our feeble attempts to control the border. Do we really want to do that effectively anyway?

    Oh well, perhaps not today.

      #1.34 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

      When is the last time you saw a blimp arrest anyone?

      • 1 vote
      #1.35 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

      They should be doing a story on why DHS has bought 1.4 billion rounds of ammo and why in the world would Social Security be placing orders as well.

      • 2 votes
      #1.36 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

      when its your time to go , they want you to go PEACEFULLY, THAT's why they need the ammo!

        #1.37 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:38 AM EDT

        Culheath...I believe the correct word we will have to use by 2030 is "football".

          #1.38 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

          Fordman, All the POTUS that sat in that same oval office did nothing either! Why should Obama do something? Because like all others before him, they've all been bought by those that profit from the labor of illegals in the name of Profit! Slam em all! Leave it to the States to do it for them and then sue the States for doing a better job!

          • 1 vote
          #1.39 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:00 PM EDT
          Reply

          Our government has no interest in controlling the flow of illegals into our country. A blimp is not going to do anything if we are not to deport illegals.

          I expect Washington thinks that if we see a blimp in the air, we will think they are doing something constructive. It is just smoke and mirrors.

          • 29 votes
          Reply#2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

          We don't need blimps, walls, fences or more boots on the ground.

          There is a solution and it is so simple it's mind numbing. Have the politicians uphold their oath of office and enforce the current immigration laws on the books. That is, start arresting and fining everyone who hires illegals. Soon, no one will hire them. There will be no work for them. Next, have the current administration uphold their oath of office and obey the law of the land and stop aiding and abetting the illegals by providing them with welfare and incentive to come here illegally.

          There will be no incentive for them to come here, and no incentive for those here to stay. They will self-deport.

          Then the border patrol agents we have will be able to focus on the 20% that come across the border now to smuggle drugs and lead a life of crime.

          But don't hold you breath waiting for this to happen, because the politicians on both sides are owned by the businesses that hire illegals. That is who they represent, not the American people.

          • 30 votes
          #2.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:20 AM EDT

          Agree with Bill, Blimps ? ......are they freaking kidding. So lets go back 100+ years to a time before fixed wing aviation to solve our illegal alien problem. Maybe the visuals will make the american public think the feds are doing there job. They only solution is boots on the ground ( Military), aggresive deportation, and prosecution of business's that hire them under the table.

          What is happening is nothing less then the invasion of the US by a foreign country. Its not an "immigration" problem anymore.

          • 17 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

          While were at maybe the feds can break out Spears, Bows & Arrows and Tin Cans tied together with strings.

          • 12 votes
          #2.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

          I'm waiting on those specially trained border patrol Gophers to detect all the tunnels they keep digging.

          • 5 votes
          #2.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

          BillH said:

          Our government has no interest in controlling the flow of illegals into our country.

          I would like to disagree with you here, I see a lot of new technology aimed at stopping illegal immigration.

          In 1994 there were 11,000 CBP (customs & Border Protection)officers at the border and he committed 564 National Guard troops. Under President Obama the number of CBP agents has grown to 18,000+ and the National Guard troop deployment has increased to 1200, their efforts now augmented by the deployment of several unmanned Predator drones.

          Homeland Security used Nogales, AZ to test a surveillance system that will continuously monitor 4 square miles or provide scanning monitoring for up to ten square miles. The technology also includes retina scanners that are reportedly accurate up to 50 feet away with the person being scanned running. It's called 'Wide Angle Aerial Surveillance System' (WAASS). Plans are also underway to fit the system to those Predator drones and test-fly that over Nogales, AZ.

          They are planning to roll out the WAASS nationwide in areas that are usually considered hot spots; they would be particularly useful along the border, to monitor communes and cult encampments in hard-to reach places like mountains, search canyons and ravines and snowy mountainsides for victims of avalanches and other disasters. The Xaver 800 Through Wall Imaging system can see through walls and roofs, giving the government a clear picture of who is inside a house, how many, and what these people are doing inside their houses. They'll be able to see who's cooking meth or growing pot in the basement, for example, who is brewing homemade moonshine in the woods behind the house, see who is breaking into someone's house, see a child molester molesting a child, illegals hiding in drophouses.

          Another bit of technology they are currently testing in an 'undisclosed location' in the Northeast is what they called a Future Attribute Screening Technology, FAST, which will scan a person as far as 50 feet away for changes in body temperature, respiration, heart rate, eye movement and other factors to determine if they are acting in a suspicious manner. Agents watching the scanners can then direct ground agents to arrest the person befoe they can commit an illegal act. Early tests utilizing DHS employees who were told to act a certain way indicated hat the machine was 70% accurate in detecting persons who were told to act suspiciously.

          (Saw an article earlier this week referencing TSA officers complaining about a new behavior assessment program being tested at Boston's airport. I think we now know where FAST is being tested.)

          Also currently being tested at border checkpoints and deportation camps are portable DNA scanners (reportedly for eventual use at airports and all ports of entry to the US). It requires that the person being tested open their mouth for an inside-the-cheek swab which will then be placed in a portable DNA analyzer and return results. Most of the initial results will be enrollment results but if the DNA submitted at, say, an airport happens to be a kinship match for someone on DHS's database who is currently detained as an illegal immigrant or at Guantanamo Bay as a terrorist, that person can be detained as well. If your relative is illegal, chances are you are too, so you'll be detained until you prove you aren't.

          A blimp is not going to do anything if we are not to deport illegals.

          Whoever said we weren't deporting? My coworker's mother was deported two days before Christmas last year--she was adopted as an infant from Germany in 1945, immigration at the time never told her parents that citizenship wasn't automatic with adoption. 60= years later they realize their mistake but instead of allowing her (or her now 90 year old parents) to file paperwork to correct the mistake, she was deported to Germany and will have to remain there for 10 years before her son can apply for her to come back. Since all her possessions including bank account, was seized as civil asset forfeiture before she left, my coworker has to send her money until she can get a job and find a place to live.

          Anyone who tells you the government is no longer deporting people doesn't have their facts straight.

          • 2 votes
          #2.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

          Weary...

          Actually, check the Obama health care plan. I believe some a$$hole congressman negotiated bows and arrows into the plan for his district in New Mexico or someplace. Supposedly they were needed to continue cultural education to Native Americans. So, we've already got the bows and arrows!

          F#@k&rs!

          And hs321 is right...easy fix of enforcement of existing laws will never happen...lobbyists are so far up congressmen's a$$e$ they can't move. Congress' decision : kill the golden goose (stop taking contributions from lobbyists) or actually do their jobs. No brainer.

          • 5 votes
          #2.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

          Romneys 59 point plan includes bringing in 1,250,000 high tech workers claiming a shortage even though unemployment in those sectors is double what it was prior to the recession. I suspect he simply prefers cheaper workers from India than American ones. He claims the new immigrants will create support jobs. Like selling them Big Macs. Bad enough we have millions slipping across the border, now we're going to pay their airfare and give them green cards at the airport.

          • 1 vote
          #2.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

          Larry, I didn't think Romney could count that high. Seems only two is his best yet. Same with Ryan.

            #2.9 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:09 PM EDT
            Reply

            Put some remote-controlled sniper-rifles on those blimps, and you've got a deal!

            The only good Zeta is a small piece of a Zeta.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

            Sling a giant, long-range Taser, if that don't work release the ACME Anvil! BEEP-BEEP!

              #3.1 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:14 PM EDT
              Reply

              We have the means then why haven't we been doing this already.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:26 AM EDT

              Agreed, it's about time our government put obese people back to work by providing them with jobs patroling our border.

              • 1 vote
              #4.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
              Reply

              They already use blimps, see them in AZ over the mountains for years.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

              isnt area 51 in new mexico?..............................:)

                #5.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

                Not working very well are they?

                • 2 votes
                #5.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:40 AM EDT

                Actually

                To those posters who think their needs to be more and better fence, most of what can be fenced, already is. The remaining terrain (mostly in AZ) is virtually

                impossible to fence. Current border enforcement has forced the smugglers into that area and that is why AZ is up in arms.

                Also, many posters seem to think that the only problem is the US/Mexico border being porous. Nothing could be further from the truth. The large majority (over 90%) of "undocumented" immigrants came here legally, we gave them visas, social security numbers, work permits, etc. Then they stayed. A violation, yes, but very difficult to enforce because e-verify identifies the good Social Security Numbers they have as good SSNs. Homeland Security is working on a solution but it is complicated. Also, many immigrants in this situation have been working for the same employers or through the same union for years so they are not re-applying so e-verify is never contacted.

                One more thing. Those of you who think this is a Mexican problem are just racist. Where I live, there are many illegal Eastern Europeans.

                Also-

                Businesses need this labor, as do you. This labor pool keeps prices down by doing jobs the lazy, spoiled American worker won't do. And most are NOT "paid under the table," they have SS and Medicare Withholding, income tax withholding and they do, in fact, file and pay taxes.

                • 2 votes
                #5.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

                This is such a waste. Amnesty is currently being granted to illegals here and very little is happening to slow the flow. The only thing the blimp will do is maybe get a more accurate count of how many crossing. I don't gamble but I would be willing to bet that no other country on the planet has such a massive influx illegals that it negatively affects their economy.

                We can't really blame anyone but ourselves. The very politicians we elect (you know, the people that we assumed were smarter than we are) to protect this nation are the very ones destroying her. I think next to Chicago, Washington is the most corrupt city in the US, both parties and most levels of government. Washington needs to be cleaned out. The government used to serve the people of this nation and assist the states. Seems the government now is in every part of your life. We have lost our voice.

                • 5 votes
                #5.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                Travis~ try to peddle that manure to the thousands and thousand of Americans out of work that lost their homes...I bet they would have taken a job that one of the illegals has.

                we DO NOT need illegals at all.

                • 5 votes
                #5.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                "The large majority (over 90%) of "undocumented" immigrants came here legally, we gave them visas, social security numbers, work permits, etc."

                Do you have a source stating 90% of illegals were here legally and were issued visa's, social security numbers and work permits?

                "One more thing. Those of you who think this is a Mexican problem are just racist. Where I live, there are many illegal Eastern Europeans"

                I bet there isn't 20 million of them.

                "Businesses need this labor, as do you. This labor pool keeps prices down by doing jobs the lazy, spoiled American worker won't do. And most are NOT "paid under the table," they have SS and Medicare Withholding, income tax withholding and they do, in fact, file and pay taxes."

                No, Americans need these jobs, NOT illegals. And you have not facts to base your claim that most are not paid under the table. I honestly was not aware that illegals could get a social security card, legally anyway. I thought you had to be a citizen to get a social security card?

                • 4 votes
                #5.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                To those posters who think their needs to be more and better fence, most of what can be fenced, already is. The remaining terrain (mostly in AZ) is virtually

                impossible to fence. Current border enforcement has forced the smugglers into that area and that is why AZ is up in arms

                Look up MetalStorm ADWS. That's all the "fence" we need.

                • 2 votes
                #5.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:00 PM EDT
                Reply

                Oh for Heavens' sake people. Stop government bashing for 2 seconds and read the freaking article. They're only considering it. If they didn't use them, you would be complaining about all the money spent on them and they're just sitting around. If any of you were actually serious about controlling the illegal immigration problem, you would think you would want EVERY tool possible to try to fix it. Personally, I'd rather they use them than they just sit around collecting dust.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

                Knee-jerk anger serves them better than reading comprehension...

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                #6.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

                Well giving that the bone-headed decisions are made by the government, bashing is directed appropriately. And as far as fixing the illegal immigration problem, what the people of this nation wants apparently means nothing as this administration is now shoving a back-door dream act down the throats of Americans. The government admit they have no real plan ot avert fraud in the documents but continue anyway. Yeah....that makes sense, not enough jobs for the LEGAL people here. But hey...press on.

                • 1 vote
                #6.2 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:12 PM EDT
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                Sign me up for the "Texas Navy'.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

                I wish I had a Blimp. I would sling a small a cabin under it, and live in it. Tax free. And you can move on to somewhere new, whenever you feel like it. Similar to living on a sailboat, but in the air.

                That said, the Police force already has a few Blimps. They are usually seen hovering around the local donut shops. lol

                • 6 votes
                Reply#8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

                Blimps? are you sh*itting me? i mean really... BLIMPS?!?.....what is this circa 1910?

                • 3 votes
                Reply#9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                Using a blimp allows for persistent surveillance; costs will be cheaper than having a manned platform that has to land regularly for something that could be done for much longer periods of time. In doing so, it allows the ground forces to track and manage the flow of information about traffic patterns, routes, frequency of inflow of illegals, etc., so that they can send their limited ground personnel to intercept the illegals at the right time, at the right place...Additionally, if there is an IR or even an EO optics package on board, you can tell what type of weapons they are carrying, how many are carrying weapons so that those that intercept them will have the right type of armament with them during the intercept. Lastly, a persistent blimp on station can act as a psuedo-lite (derivative of a satellite) where it can stay on station and provide line of sight communications for those on the ground in the middle of nowhere Arizona back to the command post that could be beyond line of sight...Being out in the middle of nowhere Arizona is a bad place to make a cellphone call if there are no towers nearby...Satellite phones are costly too; why bother with a satphone when you can just use a regular cellphone? Or, if cellphones are not secure enough, strap a radio on there with some crypto and you have secure comms....

                Blimps are a unique platform with a slew of capabilities to hang from it...Perhaps those doughboys of WWI knew a thing or two about a thing or two about intelligence gathering...

                :-)

                • 1 vote
                #9.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:39 AM EDT
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                FREE of charge, yusay theyb are nbeing supplied FREE??????????????????????????

                WTH, ... JUST how stupid do yu think people are??????????????????????????????

                WTH izza matter w/yu???

                  Reply#10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                  JUST how stupid do yu think people are?

                  text?

                  nuff said.............:)

                  • 4 votes
                  #10.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

                  Freedom4Everyone
                  I wish I had a Blimp. I would sling a small a cabin under it, and live in it. Tax free. And you can move on to somewhere new, whenever you feel like it. Similar to living on a sailboat, but in the air.

                  Sure would be bummer if you were sleep walking and went outside for something, That first step would be quite a dousey!

                    #10.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:16 AM EDT
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                    Big blimpin spending g's

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:09 AM EDT
                    tedadfgDeleted

                    There wil be no boots on the ground as long as the Democrats control the Whitehouse because without poor, illiterate illegals, they lose an important source of votes.

                    • 12 votes
                    Reply#13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                    Funny, they are illegal and are not allowed to vote to begin with. Most of them , here legal still don't vote either. Trust me I know.

                      #13.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                      Jeff-1570172

                      There wil be no boots on the ground as long as the Democrats control the Whitehouse because without poor, illiterate illegals, they lose an important source of votes.

                      How many boots were on the ground during the Bush years? As I recall the national guard at the borders were not even allowed to have ammo. As for Romney's self deportation plan, don't hold your breath waiting for him to take action. This is multi-trllion dollar globalization and its bigger than any political party, it's outoursing jobs for cheaper production costs and importing labor for cheap labor. If you think any campaign promise is for real, you're deluding yourself.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

                      If your argument is that Obama is just as stupid, just as incompetent, and just as bad as Bush we already agree. I saw what Bush didn't do. I saw what Obama didn't do and worse, what he did in violating his oath of office and prohibiting the Government from enforcing our laws. I'll vote Romney and if he doesn't do the job I will vote for another.

                      • 5 votes
                      #13.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

                      xsvenom-

                      Obviously illegals aren't "allowed" to vote but i guarantee you there are plenty that find a way. Especially now that they can get caught commiting identiy theft and be released because they aren't a "priority".

                      • 4 votes
                      #13.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                      Illegal immigrant groups HELP illegals vote! It USED to be a privilage for those who become citizens but not anymore! And of course, any politician or law that helps only them will be what they will vote for! What other country allows this crap to go on? UGH!

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:28 PM EDT
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                      After President Obama's bonehead decision to give Amnesty to 2 million illegal aliens, we are going to need massive amounts of troops and everything we can get at the border.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

                      I think bringing our troops back from Afghanistan and putting them on the border with a 'shoot to kill' order would be much easier. We're already feeding the troops, but the chance of Texas blockading the supply route is a lot less likely than what is going on in Pakistan. Use all that bribe money, shipping and handling to house and feed the troops and keep them on American soil. Tell Pakistan to go pound sand and let them deal with the terrorists on their own. The opium will still flow.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                      Unconstitutional to use the military in this way.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                      Unconstitutional for the POTUS to selectively enforce laws.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:06 PM EDT
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                      How about a 1 mile DMZ along the entire border? Use Homeland Security to claim eminent domain to level all the buildings that are built right up to the fence in Texas, Arizona, California. Level the ground. Put up a chain link fence with gun towers. Mine the rest of the land all the way along the border. Use anti vehicle, anti personnel and for good measure drill holes to the depths of tunnels and plant seismic mines. Post in BIG lettering in English, Spanish and Arabic warning of the dangers waiting if you attempt to cross. Cost effective instead of constructing fences that can be scaled and would not need to hire more agents to protect the border. I am sure this would stop most from illegal entry. The question is do we as a Nation have a pair to do so?

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

                      How about a 1 mile DMZ along the entire border? Use Homeland Security to claim eminent domain to level all the buildings that are built right up to the fence in Texas, Arizona, California. Level the ground. Put up a chain link fence with gun towers. Mine the rest of the land all the way along the border.

                      Nana, would you feel the same way if you owned a home, business, or a shopping mall in the areas that you mention? C'mon, answer truthfully!


                      • 1 vote
                      #16.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                      Dope and Illegals will still find a way. America's insatiable appetite demands so! Maybe mine the ocean too? Just like the Cocaine Cowboys. Send in thirty boats, two get sunk, one peters out, two chicken out. Twenty- five make it through! Get real!

                        #16.2 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:28 PM EDT
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                        DHS is a joke. We fund only sections of border control. When aliens are capture in northern states they are oftem released on bond or worse yet, thier own recognisence. Our prisons, jails, school and social services have been so badly abused by the alien scum that invades daily. Gov J Brewer and Sheriff Joe are the last heros fighting the good fight. USBP needs to declare war. Our military need to come home from abroad and be placed on the border. Deadly force autorized. Shooting across the border at offenders and pursuing them into Mexico should be authorized. We are at was with a narco/terror state. Mexico is crimnal from top to bottom.

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                        Brewer and Arpaio are not heroes but BS. It was the folks from Southern Arizona who lit the fire. The only reason Maricopa/Phoenix got into the mix is because for the first time they had to send dough South to Pima/Tucson and further. We got no tax base and even less to give to those who don't belong. Southern Arizona makes it harder to be an illegal so that they'll move on further North for you guys to deal with. They sucked us dry back in the early 70's. Of course you guys didn't care because it was happening else where. NOW YOU DO!! When is the last time they've closed up a business that profits from hiring illegals? Maricopa/Phoenix developers are the biggest and insanely the richest. Maricopa/Phoenix is no more than a So-Cal Annex. No one goes up against them, not even the Governor or the Sheriff! They talk the talk but can't and won't carry the stick against the Developers, the food and service industries. Their Lobbyists will and see to that and so will YOUR elected officials! America is also criminal from top to bottom. Like Mexico's politicos, America's politicos ignore it's people in favor of Profit. Main reason Mexico is screwed-up is because America refuses to drop the pipe, needle and spoon! America also maintains an insatiable appetite for cheap labor. Down here along the Arizona/Mexighanistan border folks want to shoot those that buy and use Mexican product. We also laugh at the huge lines of aged pill junkies getting their Oxies at Narco-owned pharmacies! Canooks are abundant too. Wait till the MexMeth comes to a junkie/home near you! Top quality, consistency and quantity! No one can compete! Devastating! On it's way to you! You folks are just noe crying because it now gets to you! Where were you guys 50 years ago?

                        • 1 vote
                        #17.1 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:53 PM EDT
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                        Unmanned blimps? Great, now we can watch them cross over. "Tonights news, illegals cross border filmed by blimps with nobody to stop them". I agree, a solid fence should be put up.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:51 AM EDT

                        Arm the predator drones . Good target practice there on the border.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

                        Suave(above) is right. There have been aerostats (anchored blimps) on the border for years! There's one near Marfa, Tx, another southwest of Deming, NM and a third that I know of at Ft. Huachuca, AZ. This is nothing new and more are sure to follow. They also can't be shot down with a just h.p. rifles. Don't think the Taliban and Iraqi's haven't tried...

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

                        Aerostats are exponently overbuilt, extremely durable, overly multi-chambered, self-sealing and have instrumentation to detect direction of fire among a host of others I won't tell that a drone can't. Not to mention remote releasing of on-board compressed inflating systems. It takes care of itself! It'd take a whole day's worth of gunfire from at least 20 guys to get it to even list 5 degrees! 200 guys can't carry that much ammo let alone America's much needed dope! Sorry nay-sayers to blimps! Know much of the areas in question here along the Arizona/Mexighanistan border and you don't. Know the game better than most playing it from both sides of the issue, both sides of the border and both sides of the law. Know the Peck where Agent Terry was murdered buy the folks you get your dope and cheap labor from. Peck Canyon is still no-man's land! The Ruby all the way through Sasabe, Arivaca, The Baboquivaris, etc. on to I-8. The Aerostats work! Especially for com in the canyons. Gotta link up to get com. Know what they can and can't do. They stay up all the time, day and night. Don't gotta come down like a drone. There's some huge tech in them air-balls as we deep in the game call them. In a pinch? They're the closest thing to God when the word needs to get out. These Air-balls have saved tons of lives including my own!! Few moons ago they pegged ultralights to the waiting Boys and Girls in Green along the Sierrita Mts at the end of Colman Trail. Gotta love the Air-balls. The more, the better.

                        • 1 vote
                        #21.1 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:29 PM EDT
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                        Recycling these blimps may be a good idea, but the idea of their being useful on the Mexico borders leaves a lot to be desired.

                          Reply#22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                          How about we legalize marijuana instead. Grow it here in America, sell it tax it smoke it. Instead we are going to send up floating targets, how much do these blimps cost? Who pays for them? Tax payers? Give us a break please, make weed legal, that would hit the drug lords in their bank accounts.

                            Reply#23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                            Why not do both? Cannabis is culturally acceptable and will someday be be legal. But, meth? coke? One school says legalize all and educate. Tough issues. Let's keep an eye on Portugal.

                            • 2 votes
                            #23.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                            While I agree that America needs reform where marijuana is concerned. Do you really think that doing so will just make them throw their hands up and stop trafficking cocaine, heroin and many other illegal drugs? Or probably the biggest problem of them all, human trafficking? Sure it will take some of their money away, but not nearly enough to make it not "worth" it. Would love to see the statistics, or books of one of these "drug" lords. We have a serious problem with our borders. Most notably the southern but the northern border is a joke too.

                              #23.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:23 PM EDT
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                              My first thought when reading the headline was that the government is going to send a battalian of Texas housewives to the border. Then I realized the "blimps" were the inflatable dirigible kind. My bad.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                              Lol

                                #24.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT
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                                I can see how this will lead to ever increasing "big brother is watching you." No matter where u go, what u do, "i'll be watching u."

                                  Reply#25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                                  My wife is staying home here with me, I'm not going to have her floating around the Mexican border.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

                                  u better hope she doesn't read your comment, xsvenom

                                    #26.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:29 AM EDT
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                                    The blimps will just be used for target practice- waste

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#27 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

                                    Why waste the ammo shooting them down?

                                    If they stay up in the air, then illegals know where NOT to cross, lol.

                                      #27.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:12 PM EDT
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