Cops: Teens beat man because 'they were just bored'

Jennifer Edwards Baker / The Enquirer

Pat Mahaney, 45, was treated for internal wounds at a local hospital for four days before his release Tuesday. Police said doctors had to insert a tube down his throat to remove all of the blood from his stomach.

A man in Ohio was severely beaten by six teenage boys who said they did so because they were bored, police allege.

Pat Mahaney was walking home from the store in North College, Ohio, Saturday with a six-pack of beer, looking forward to a quiet evening watching sports, when something hit him in the back of the head.

“They came from behind. They hit me,” Mahaney told the Cincinnati Enquirer. “I don’t remember telling them anything.”  


Police said the six boys, ages 13 and 14, “were just bored and looking for something to do” when they ambushed Mahaney from behind. He was immediately knocked unconscious. During the attack, one of the boys hurled a beer can at Mahaney’s head, police said.

“The next thing I knew I woke up on my neighbor’s front step and the life squad was there,” Mahaney, 45, said.

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An officer responding to another call spotted a crowd of people gathered near Mahaney’s home. Several witnesses told the officer Mahaney was covered in blood after being “jumped by six children,” the police report said.

Mahaney was taken to Mercy Mount Airy Hospital, where he was treated for four days before being released Tuesday. Police said doctors had to insert a tube down his throat to remove all of the blood from his stomach.

A tube remained in his right nostril as blood continued to seep out of his head, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported, and his left eye is heavily blackened.

Police said the teens admitted that Mahaney had done nothing to provoke being kicked and punched repeatedly in the face while he lay helpless on the ground. One of the boys allegedly told police they only stopped assaulting Mahaney when a neighbor began yelling at them and said he was calling police.

“They were pretty arrogant in the interview with us,” North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust said of the teens. “This appears to be premeditated, and there was no remorse on behalf of any of the assailants.”

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The boys were arrested and taken to Hamilton County’s juvenile detention center, where they were released a short time later. They face felony charges of aggravated riot and felonious assault and are on house arrest at their parents’ houses, court officials said.

“I didn’t think kids could do something like this," Mahaney said. "They should be punished.”

Mahaney said he has no health insurance and has been unemployed for years. He said he has been looking for factory work.

The boys are scheduled to appear in court Aug. 24. 

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I hope they get big-boy prison. Then we will see how arrogant, and tough, they can be.

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#1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

I hope he sues the crap out of the parents. Parents are liable for damage caused by their minor children in most states.

  • 140 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

Heck, take the parents to court WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

Maybe the FAMILIES will be able to share the same cell as their "children" after a jury finds them guilty.

  • 66 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:29 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRontronRestored

NBC just happened to leave out:

“It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill
Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

I doubt we will hear from Jackson and Sharpton on this one.

  • 115 votes
#1.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

and are on house arrest at their parents’ houses,

why? they should be IN juvenile detention. Why are we allowing them to stay home and play video games?

  • 136 votes
#1.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

“It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

That was cut from the original story from the Cincinnati Enquirer. If it had been six white kids attacking a black guy with a six pack of beer for no reason, it sure as hell would not have been cut, by MSNBC.

  • 134 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

Rontron, "Funny" how MSNBC forgot to include that quote, huh? If the victim had been black and the attackers white, I can only imagine the rampant demands for adding hate crime charges, protests, comments from the President and, as you suggest a visit from Al and Jesse.

  • 100 votes
#1.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

WHERE ARE THESE KIDS' FATHERS???

  • 29 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

ill bet they will not be bored in prison

  • 39 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmoshuluuRestored

Too many available murderous, violent video games these kids play, than want to see how it feels to do it in person.

Don't worry, it won't get any better. America is raising a generation of murderers.

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

Terry-753375, you got that one right !! can we hear an AMEN from Jackson, Sharpton or obama? i doubt it ! they are preparing their speeches on how white people turned these Innocent youths to violence !!!

  • 33 votes
#1.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:07 PM EDT
Comment author avatar***NOW HEAR THIS***...Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Arthur66

WHERE ARE THESE KIDS' FATHERS???

You know that don't know who da baby daddy id!

  • 28 votes
#1.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

Bored, so they do something this stupid and hurtful? How many people reading this thought, 'Ya, I've been bored at one time or another but this 'option' never crossed my mind.' Do these kids have hamburger for brains? ... no, wait, that would give hamburger a bad name. Pink slime?

  • 27 votes
#1.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

This is the type of citizen the American society is producing with all its glorification of violence and the "it's cool to be a bad boy" image through video games, tv, movies and music: Haters and evil bastards. Can I not turn the channel and not see some form of violence at any time? No. It's ALWAYS THERE and it's a brainwash from the crib. Garbage in, garbage out.

  • 27 votes
#1.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

These are not kids, they are monsters and should be treated as such. They should all be charged as adults and be subject to adult sentencing. To allow them to be charged as minors would mean that these six monsters would be back out on the street to attack more people for no reason when they hit 18 (in for or five years). A few years in juvenile detention is not sufficient punishment for these kids. They should get at least 10-12 years for what they have done. Put them in juvenile detention until they are 18 and then transfer them to adult prison. The fact that they showed no remorse and have the attitude they do only reinforces the need to remove these kids from society for an extended period of time. It is too bad that the parents can not be charged as well since I hold them responsible for raising these kids to become such monsters. What kind of upbringing must they have has to think it is OK to just arbitrarily pick someone out and beat them senseless for no reason. I would say that the victim should file a civil suit against the parents, but the odds are that they have no assets to collect any judgement from them.

I also find it extremely troubling that NBC chose to edit out the part of the story about these being six black kids who attacked a white man. Had those been reversed it would have been the headline with all kinds of cries about racism. Well guess what, blacks can be just as much racist as whites, and in fact seem to be more racist than whites. If this were reversed we would be treated to a steady chorus of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson screaming about racism by the media. With the roles reversed the media, as well as those two muck rakers, are suspiciously silent. If they were truly against racism they would be speaking out against this heinous attack just as much as if it were reversed. The problem is that in their minds only whites can be racist. They continually ignore and turn a blind eye to the problems in their own community and perpetuate the problems through their actions, or should I say lack there of.

  • 83 votes
#1.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

I'm sorry, but these kids need to be in detention. This is BS and the parents need to be arrested as well. It's obvious they never taught their kids about respecting others.

  • 39 votes
#1.15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

the same thing happened to me several years ago, I was napping on a park bench in Madison wisconsin when i was hit in the face head with a thick pvc pipe, then 4-5 more times before i was able to rise up and yell for help and kick at the attackers, to my suprise they were 14-15 yrs old looking, all had these pvc bats and ran off looking for more victims when help approached, I was ok except for some bruising to my face and ego...but they stomped some poor guys bike to pieces a couple hundred yards away as they ran off...anyhow, I feel for this guy, hope he gets well soon and hope the kids face enough punishment to convince them this kind of behavior shouldnt be repeated

  • 29 votes
#1.16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

Yeh, send them to the big house, and let Bubba take care of them. Oh, of course not, they're just children. They will probably get 10 days and 50 hours of community service. Better,,, let the neighbors take care of them.

  • 13 votes
#1.17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

@Arthur66....are you kidding...I'll bet they don't know WHO their father is...........

  • 25 votes
#1.18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

AreYouBuyingThis? You got that right about the thug bastards!

  • 13 votes
#1.19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

I'm a liberal in most everything but in situations like this, I have no sympathy or compassion. I realize that there was probably no strong parent or any positive influence in the life of these little cretins. I also don't know what should happen to these "children" but I do not believe that once you reach a certain age and you are acting out like this that there is much hope of ever becoming a contributing member of society. Something needs to happen early on in a child's life to change direction so that they have compassion not only for others but for themselves.

  • 33 votes
#1.20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

“They were pretty arrogant in the interview with us... this appears to be premeditated, and there was no remorse on behalf of any of the assailants"

Sure, because they don't know the difference between right and wrong; they just don't give a @!$%#- they've been raised to be sociopaths and our society is becoming increasingly littered with such garbage.

...they were released a short time later. They face felony charges of aggravated riot and felonious assault and are on house arrest at their parents’ houses, court officials said

Sorry, but this is total BS! These animals belong behind bars in orange jump suits. They have no place in society, let alone at their parents house playing XBox 360. Watch, they'll all be charged but get off scot-free with probation, community service and mandatory counseling. Instead of coddling them serve them up to some real criminals in the slammer and watch their arrogance melt like piss running down their legs.

  • 46 votes
#1.21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

It's both a hate crime and attempted murder!!!

  • 51 votes
#1.22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

Yeah... I was wondering the same thing... What is up with "released a short time later and placed under house arrest"??? They beat the crap out of some guy and could have damn well killed him had someone not stopped them. The fact that they showed no remorse leads me to believe that they have some serious problems that a little community service will not solve. I am not saying that we need to lock them up and throw away the key, but some kind of true rehabilitation needs to occur so we can break this cycle of senseless violence.

  • 21 votes
#1.23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
Comment author avatarscales67Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Previous posters are right. Why isn't Obama going to the media and claiming that if he had a son, he would look like one of these boys?

Make the parents pay for the victim's medical bills. Why should they get off free and have the American taxpayer foot his bill? Add damages to his medical bill and make them pay for those, as well.

  • 22 votes
#1.24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

Sent home to their "parents"? The same ones who raised these worthless little ba$tards? That is bat-$hit crazy on the part of the state.

  • 40 votes
#1.25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

Oh, sure, it can't be a HATE crime, since the victim was white and the assailants are black, oh, no! It just tells you what a ____ing JOKE the whole "hate crime" thing is!

  • 33 votes
#1.26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJeff-1592116Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Terry-753375, you got that one right !! can we hear an AMEN from Jackson, Sharpton or obama? i doubt it ! they are preparing their speeches on how white people turned these Innocent youths to violence !!!

Wow what an ignorant statement.

  • 14 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

I'm a liberal in most everything but in situations like this, I have no sympathy or compassion. I realize that there was probably no strong parent or any positive influence in the life of these little cretins. I also don't know what should happen to these "children" but I do not believe that once you reach a certain age and you are acting out like this that there is much hope of ever becoming a contributing member of society. Something needs to happen early on in a child's life to change direction so that they have compassion not only for others but for themselves.

I'm a liberal too & also have no compassion for these six "children." Maybe for the obviously rotten upbringing they've had, but not for them in regard to their behavior. The frightening thing is that they are displaying sociopathic thought processes & behavior which mean it is probably too late to change them & that they will commit far more heinous crimes in the future that will undoubtedly result in the death of one or more individuals also without provocation but just for kicks. And I think it's really unfortunate that because of their ages, they cannot & will not be held either in prison or a mental institution permanently for the rest of their lives for the protection of the rest of society. I shudder at the thought of the crimes they'll commit once this has "blown over" & they are out on the streets again. If they aren't out there now. Somehow I don't have a lot of faith in their parents' abilities to keep them under "house arrest."

  • 31 votes
#1.28 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
Comment author avatarKaiErExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No, no, no... you have MSNBC all wrong... they didn't neglect to include the quote for any malicious purpose or to mislead people - They simply condensed it and made a horrible spelling error, writing "bored" instead of "black" in the headline. I am sure they will make the correction once they see their mistake.

Cops: Teens beat man because 'they were just black'

  • 25 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

Send them to Arizona to work on the chain gang with baloney sandwiches twice a day. I believe the law on juveniles is that they can only be sentenced to jail until they are 18 and then released. If someone else has information directly about the criminal statutes in this state, I would appreciate clarification. I doubt if any of them is going to be charged as an adult. While it would be justice to throw them in jail until the trial, it would mean that the public would have to fund the upkeep, maintenance and feeding of these monsters until trial. After spending a day in a court room for denouncing a teenage shoplifter, I was ordered by the court to appear, and then not being called and being threatened by the judge when I objected to the "CHILD" given a warning, I don't have any faith in the juvenile court system. Nip it in the bud and make the "KIDS" do hard time and see what they think about their next escapade.

Up at six AM a cold baloney sandwich then out on a chain gang picking up garbage along side of the road for six years would be something they would remember.

  • 22 votes
#1.30 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

Rontron, in what universe are you living where the parents of these little scum have anything to be sued for?

And parents? Odds are only one will be found.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

Reported right here on MSNBC scientists have found a connection between two areas of the brain that sociopaths don't have. Nobody becomes a sociopath, you are one from birth until death, which can't come soon enough for these sick creatures.

Jail. Life sentence. No parole. Society needs to be protected from them as they will never change.

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

When I was their age and we were bored, we made prank phone calls. WTF is wrong with these kids????

This is what happens when anyone can become a parent. You get someone who doesn't know how to discipline and control their kids. Their mothers' should be paying for this man's medical bills. But I am sure their ghetto a$$es don't have any money either!

ofcourse1

Send them to Arizona to work on the chain gang with baloney sandwiches twice a day.........Up at six AM a cold baloney sandwich then out on a chain gang picking up garbage along side of the road for six years would be something they would remember.

You forgot to mention the 115 degree heat and sleeping in tents the whole time. It is lovely weather this time of year!!!

  • 15 votes
#1.33 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

I also find it extremely troubling that NBC chose to edit out the part of the story about these being six black kids who attacked a white man.

I'm not surprised. I believe NBC is owned by Comcast. Comcast is a huge donor to Obama.

  • 8 votes
#1.34 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarslodonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I wonder if Obama had a son if he would look like any of these six fine upstanding young men..

  • 13 votes
#1.35 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:09 PM EDT

Do you really need to be so ignorant ~

  • 5 votes
#1.36 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

Keeping them locked up cost more than home detention. That's why they were released, because you are Taxed Enough Already. They were bored and on the street because the summer jobs programs for kids were canceled because you are Taxed Enough Already. I am surprised you didn't comment about the victim being "out of work for years" but still having money for beer. He probably bought it with your tax dollars too!

  • 2 votes
#1.37 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

Time to bring back public floggings and hangings

  • 19 votes
#1.38 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

Hey Koali ---- That statement sounds more like Eric Holder!

  • 3 votes
#1.39 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

I'd really like to hear a response from NBC and the other news outlets why they omitted the fact that the kids were black. I'm mostly liberal, but in this case, I think that guy should have been carrying a gun and given those kids something to think about. I also think these kids should be tried as adults. If the neighbor didn't stop them, they WOULD have killed that guy. And you can bet they wouldn't have gone after a black man. They picked him because he was white and I would bet it was more than "they were just bored". Can anyone from this news website comment on why these facts were omitted. People are so afraid to be politically incorrect, they just report things that are "safe" to say.

This is an outrageous crime, no matter what color the suspects or the victim were. With every new generation of kids, there is less and less respect for each other. Kids need to be taught in school AND by their parents to respect other people. This just makes me sick inside.

  • 14 votes
#1.40 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

This is the result of the masculinization of America. Male on male crime is rampant - it's the biggest category. But of course it's politically incorrect to point that out. It makes people angry when you point out that crime by males is through the roof.

  • 3 votes
#1.41 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

They hit him from behind and knocked him out. If he had had a gun, they would have grabbed it when he was unconscious and shot him.

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

Bonos: Violent crimes and assaults have historically always been perpetrated by males, we account for some 85-95% of all crimes in general. Nothing new there. Politically incorrect or not, this is another result of a country that's working hard to rip itself apart from the inside out. These kids don't need to play violent video games or watch violent movies to commit something this violent, just watch our politicians doing whatever it takes, by whatever means possible to destroy the other party, or watch some of the great celebrity role models out there that get famous from porn, drug dealing, or violence. No jobs, poor schools, dangerous neighborhoods, over-crowded prisons, no mutual respect, and no leaders to look up to. Everyday now someone is shooting up a school, a church, a movie theater, their family, etc. We must learn to deal with the society we have chosen to create.

The reason these kids are not in jail, they are already over-crowded with other criminals. They are arrogant about these crimes because going to jail is one more way they will move up the only ladder they see available to them...the "street" ladder. Gangs now run the jails, and they increasingly run the "streets" as well. These kids are likely young thugs doing what thugs are trained to do. It's sad this man got his ass kicked and nearly died, but it's only going to get worse until we start trying to work together and prioritize our real problems. I guess religion and praying just aren't enough to solve social issues in this country, so maybe we should all start working on solving these problems where they start and stop focusing on how to punish people after they've already committed the crimes. We can't afford to lock them all up anymore, and the recidivism rate is still 2/3, so prisons aren't helping either.

  • 2 votes
#1.43 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

Why is it we always treat kids with kid gloves? I grew up with a 16yr old cousin that went around doing armed robberies. He had been in trouble his whole life, but never really got any serious punishment for any of his actions. He used to always tell me, that they can't do to much to him cause HE'S A MINOR. That's the mindset of these people. We're minors so they'll go easy on us. This man almost died and I bet their parents are out there trying to fight tooth and nail so that their little boys won't be punished too harshly.

  • 13 votes
#1.45 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

Please stop trying to blame video games, and tv on these little animals actions. They are thugs, should be in detention, not house arrest since their parents obviously can't control them in the first place. Little gang wannabe's. They need to do some serious time, and extensive community service, and mandatory pysch treatment.

  • 10 votes
#1.46 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:03 AM EDT

Sorry stormrider, they are already lost to society. Treat them as adults as it sounds like it was attempted murder. If I remember right, that brings about 25yrs. in Ohio. Yes, let the parents pay for Dr. bills etc., as they are out of control.

Some of the above posters are right in I don't hear Jackson and Sharpton getting involved in this! How come Mr. Jackson & Mr. Sharpton?

  • 6 votes
#1.47 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:45 AM EDT

@Sleuth

These violent little sociopaths are why we do have prisons. Perhaps if some of those non-violent "offenders" were released we'd have more room.

If some of those non-violent offenders received treatment rather than incarceration recidivism would also be reduced thus freeing even more space for the violent.

  • 6 votes
#1.48 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:16 AM EDT

Repeat after me: "The Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed". The likely reason these thugs attacked this particular person rather than say a policeman or military member, was because they were fairly sure the victim could mount no reasonably amount of self defense.

The liberal media do a marvelous job of pointing out how guns cause so much mayhem when idiots and insane people get their hands on them and to things like Aurora and Pheonix, and how terrorists use them to great effect like that soon-to-be-dead guy in Fort hood, and COMPLETELY, and to me criminally, neglect to mention how the innocent victim in this instance may have spared himself a viscous beating , and very likely without ever pulling the trigger. Hundreds of times each day crimes of potential violence are prevented merely because the intended victim is able to present a firearm that he or she is lawfully carrying. My own wife prevented a probably home invasion because she answered the door one evening after dark and had a rifle in her hand; the person who knocked (loudly enough to make sure no on was home and just didn't hear him knocking) said he was giving estimates on windows and siding - at 9:30 at night. Yeah, sure he was.

Remember that the first responder to a violent attack is ALWAYS the victim, and that's why God gave bears claws, He gave sharks teeth, and God gave man Smith and Wesson (and Colt, Ruger, etc...not playing favorites here). Use what God gave you to defend yourself.

  • 4 votes
#1.49 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

Shandril Too!

Repeat after me: "Only the police need guns."

I call bull@!$%# on that statement. No. Total bull@!$%#.

  • 8 votes
#1.51 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

Shandrill: Better get rid of all knives too....and bats.....for that matter broom handles too as I've seen those used a weapons numerous times. Should we keep going? cars, alcohol, etc etc

MSNBC: Just curious as to why you left out the part of the article about the hate crime? Did your donators feel that it would cause discussion against your agenda? We all know you read these so do you have the courage to answer this or are you just going to pull typical avoidance plan?

  • 8 votes
#1.52 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

Hamilton County is Cincinnati area. No surprises here. As far as send them to juvenile detention, our governor has cut so many areas, that it probably took such an economic blow and can't house them.

As for being bored--why? If my kids were bored, I found things for them to do. I have floors to scrub, beans to pick, tomatoes to jar, beds to make, laundry to wash, a yard to mow, a closet to clean, buttons to sew on, a driveway to sweep. If that's not enough, the homeless shelter needs someone to dish up lunches, wash the plates, do their laundry, mow their grass. Still not enough? How about teaching someone to read at the library, volunteer to put the books away, run the sweeper, tend to the little ones while mom is researching the family history. Do I need to continue?

The problem is that these are not "entertaining" enough for these little monsters, who EXPECT to be entertained, who EXPECT to do whatever they want, who EXPECT to have everything on tv, advertised, or on the side of a bus. I'll bet not one of them has seen a day of easy work, let alone hard work.

Yes, I'm pushing 60, but when I was in my early teens, I knew what it was to work. Things haven't changed that much. What has changed is the expectation for kids to help and work. It doesn't need to be difficult, but it does need to be done.

My grandfather was put on a packet boat when he was 6 years old, and he worked like a slave just to eat. It was just upriver from Cincy, too. He worked his whole life, was the most decorated soldier of WWI from West Virginia, and never took a dime he didn't earn. Am I saying all kids need to be worked so hard? No, but a little work does a lot of good.

Boredom is just another form of laziness. I wish I could say that I was bored; however, I've been too busy and productive to notice. (So have my kids--and their kids.)

(Color, race or gender has nothing to do with this terrible crime. It has to do with poor parenting, poor standards, and zero expectations.)

  • 6 votes
#1.53 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

Where is David Duke? Jesse Jackson would stand up for a Black man getting beaten. Why aren't whites standing up for their own? Why Isn't david duke protesting in the streets calling for justice?

  • 1 vote
#1.54 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:52 AM EDT

Are you kidding me? A drunken down-on-his-luck white man is walking with a six-pack of beer in a predominantly black neighborhood! Tell me he did not have a death wish. Even if you change races it still remains a death wish, not a smart decision. Could he have drawn a bigger target on his back? What was the victim thinking? What was he thinking would happen? This is not about race. This is about poor decisions. Poor decisions by all parties involved. Kids took a calculated risk for some fun. No empathy involved. Group think involved for sure. Human beings are treated like objects more and more in our society. The rich have no compassion for the poor. Heck, the poor have no compassion for the poor. Where is the love?

    #1.55 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

    Another 1

    Bored, so they do something this stupid and hurtful? How many people reading this thought, 'Ya, I've been bored at one time or another but this 'option' never crossed my mind.' Do these kids have hamburger for brains? ... no, wait, that would give hamburger a bad name. Pink slime?

    U obviously haven't been around the block. Gang bangers are well known to this s$#@ just for fun.

    • 1 vote
    #1.56 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

    Imagine how bored they will be now that they have been grounded. (like they'll stay home)

    • 1 vote
    #1.57 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

    I'd make a healthy bet that no more than one or two of these little cretins actually knows what his father's name is.

    Wonderful world being created, isn't it ?

    • 3 votes
    #1.58 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

    Hey! I am 6'2 and weigh 225, I am also bored, put me in the same room with these punks.

    • 3 votes
    #1.59 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

    Why aren't whites standing up for their own?

    Because that would be considered "politically incorrect" and racist.

    • 3 votes
    #1.60 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

    Arthur66, did you mean "where baby daddy"?

      #1.61 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

      Do these kids have Fathers? If not, do their Fathers pay child support? If not, WHY NOT? Why are they not hounded, hounded, hounded, whether they work or not? These kids need to be punished severely by the courts, and they need MASSIVE PSYCHOLOGICAL counseling. This is ABNORMAL behavior. They would have killed this guy. Why did these kids NOT pick a BLACK guy to attempt to kill? How do the Police determine a hate crime? It was black (6)/white (1). Looks quite racial to me. I am white, age 64, female, have ccw, carry a gun for 25 years and I would have loved to blown those kids away! I've been following the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case and believe George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin in cold blood and hope he goes to prison for a long long time. I pulled my gun one time in my 25 years of carrying on a small group of young black kids and I prevailed, so, I am not racist. I have compassion for all. At age 14, I read a book, "Black Like Me" where a man turned his skin black and lived in the south to see what it was like to live the black life. It was hell for him. That took any prejudice out of me. America has come a long way, but has a longer way to go. Training begins at home; ALL types of training!

        #1.62 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:33 AM EDT
        Reply

        Why in the world were they released?? I call BS..they violently attacked a man who did NOTHING to these animal bored kids need to be kept locked up like the animals that they are.

        • 78 votes
        #2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:12 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarRallyforgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Answer: Bleeding hearts!

        • 23 votes
        #2.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

        Answer: the law!

        • 21 votes
        #2.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

        What about the law? Felony assault and they're released? Bullsh*t!!!

        • 34 votes
        #2.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

        Fireman308

        Why in the world were they released?? I call BS

        For the same reason they were bored in the first place. We are breeding a class of citizens who don't have to work for a living and don't have to answer for their crimes because they are underpriveleged.

        • 49 votes
        #2.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:27 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarBob FreebirdRestored

        Were they tried and convicted? No? Then they are still innocent according to our judicial system. They are under house arrest, however.

        • 7 votes
        #2.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

        "Under house arrest" is like putting an ankle bracket on a criminal with access to a bolt cutter.

        • 29 votes
        #2.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

        Answer: The 8th Amendment...you know, from that constitution thingy. I'm actually pretty fond of it.

        • 5 votes
        #2.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

        DingleB...the Constitution protects individual rights and is bound by the all important wording "...without due process." If the accused have access to lawyers, a court open to the public, etc., etc., etc., they can be held in detention while awaiting trial if they are assessed as a threat to the public safety. Given the circumstances and the admission of guilt and their motives for the assault...the public safety is at risk...but hell, if the good people of Ohio are happy, well then I'm happy too! By the way...are the accused the same race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc., etc., etc. ? If not, there's the need to investigate this as a hate crime and/or elder abuse. The victim should contact a lawyer to assure his rights as a victim are protected along with the rights of the accused.

        • 14 votes
        #2.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

        They were released because they are black.

        • 24 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

        Bob Freebird who said because its the law was correct. I live in Cincinnati, and our hearts don't bleed that much, especially not for College Hill gangs.

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

        There is always a point at which they can be held without bond, and they have certainly passed it. If not, then the law needs to be changed.

        • 3 votes
        #2.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

        For committing such an egregious crime, these boys should have been sent to a juvenile detention center immediately.

        • 8 votes
        #2.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:47 PM EDT

        Probably the juvi hall is full up.

        • 2 votes
        #2.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

        It's up to the prosecutor and the judge to set bail. They DO have a choice. And in this case there should have been NO question about what they should have done. Bail should have been set at a million dollars each suspect. The fact that they nearly beat this man to death should override the fact that they are juveniles. Once again, everyone is so afraid of being politically incorrect. And I agree, the parents should be charged as well.

        • 6 votes
        #2.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

        Don't you know that the little darlings are innocent? That society caused them to get bored and be violent? That we have failed them at some point? That they just need to be loved and appreciated more? That they are just misunderstood? That they have grown up in poverty and just don't any better?

        Leftist liberal baloney!!!!! The liberal courts have been soft on criminals far too long. Now we have children running the street committing major crimes of all kinds and the courts and child psychologists sit around wringing their hands because they can't understand why the little darlings are so screwed up!

        Give me a conservative judge anytime! He or she will throw the book at them and throw away the key at the same time.

        Parents? Don't make me laugh! This children have no parents; they just happen to live in the same house as one or two adults.

        Kansas City, MO, instituted a Friday and Saturday night curfew for children because they were roaming the Plaza area in packs of several dozen and scaring evening shoppers and diners. And guess what, it worked!!!!! People can go to the Plaza again without being afraid of being accosted, robbed, beaten, etc. We need to return to a harsher rule by society if parents refuse to do the job. When I was a child, one of the local TV stations started the 10PM news with "Parents, it's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children are?" I know where I was: at home with my parents!

        • 3 votes
        #2.15 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

        Buy them an XBOX

          #2.16 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

          No problem here, they are black and don't you know that it is OK for them to beat up white people. Besides since Obama will say they make him think about what his son would look like, he will take them home with him.

          • 1 vote
          #2.17 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:05 PM EDT
          Reply

          They're gonna end up there anyways....the parents obviously don't care.

          • 26 votes
          #3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:12 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarRallyforgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          There are parents that do care but our liberal school teachers and schools tell these kids they should report even their parents if they are punished. Kids today know this and use it against their parents!!! Fix the godd*m system!!!

          • 25 votes
          #3.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

          They're gonna end up there anyways....

          Yep. Give these punks five years and they'll wind up in the state pen. Or dead, with any great luck at all.

          • 31 votes
          #3.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarRallyforgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Typical liberal idiots...ignore the fact they push for these "not their fault" programs!

          • 14 votes
          #3.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

          Rallyforge...total BS! Don't put it on the schools and the teachers, it belongs on the parents! If you're so smart how would you "fix the godd*m system"?

          • 27 votes
          #3.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

          @Rallyforge - If you really believe the hate you are spewing, you are just as mentally ill and awful as these kids who physically abuse people. I honestly feel sorry for you and those of your hateful ilk.

          • 20 votes
          #3.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

          Rallyforge: You losing moron. Politics has nothing to do with this. maybe, just maybe, it has more to do with the ridiculous glorification of war and violence spewed by the entertainment industry (NBC's new "game" show comes to mind) and the absurd second amendment BS people push (might makes right).

          • 8 votes
          #3.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:47 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarAngela LDExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Politics has nothing to do with this.

          --------------------------------------------------

          You do realize that those on welfare, here illegally, and otherwise 'disenfranchised' are the foundation of the standing with their hand out, crying "give me your tax dollars so I can go live 'my' life, breed you off the planet, while never holding down a job because I dropped out of school" Democratic party, right?

          • 18 votes
          #3.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

          Rallyforge is right in that liberals despise the concept of personal responsibility. The individual only has value in servitude to the state, which is always right. All responsiblility is shared (it take a village to raise a child, right?).

          • 4 votes
          #3.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

          Badgerboy: I'm not sure what Rallyforge said that could be considered hate. Oh wait, having an opposing opinion on certain hot topics is now hate.

          As far as I'm concerned; Lack of discipline coupled with a culture that promotes violence is a recipe for major problems. Both political parties share in the blame (maybe to different degrees depending the issue).

          • 3 votes
          #3.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

          Angela, despite what the Right tells you, illegals cannot vote, and do not vote.

          • 3 votes
          #3.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

          maybe we can get the judge to "release" these kids into the custosy of mike, badgerboy, and piglizard. I am sure the kids will mind and behave under there control and will pose NO threat to any of the three. We caan ask to have all 6 kids under each ones supervision for 2 weeks at a time, during this time mike badger and pig will be held responsible both monetarily and criminaly if the kids do anything wrong, oh and dont forget the order from the court that NO physical restrains or physical discipline may be used against the kids.

            #3.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

            Unfortunately this type of crime is becoming common here in DC, with groups of minority teens roaming the streets or the metro for unsuspecting victims. Let the little f..ckers be forced to work until they pay for this man's medical bills. He will be doubly punished as he has no insurance.

            • 2 votes
            #3.13 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:20 AM EDT

            You can't assume the parents don't care----all a kid has to do is report to a school teacher or counselor that they are being abused and the parents are considered guilty. Even if the kid was proven to be a liar the parent's reputation is forever stained.

            Such reports never go away.

            • 2 votes
            #3.14 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

            Angela, despite what the Right tells you, illegals cannot vote, and do not vote.

            Andi: Yes, just like the bad guys do not have guns because criminals cannot own guns. Oh, wait.....

            • 3 votes
            #3.15 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

            You do realize that those on welfare, here illegally, and otherwise 'disenfranchised' are the foundation of the standing with their hand out, crying "give me your tax dollars so I can go live 'my' life, breed you off the planet, while never holding down a job because I dropped out of school" Democratic party, right?

            Please educate yourself:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ideologies_in_the_United_States

              #3.16 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:44 AM EDT

              I am OK with giving all of the blacks a welfare check for 10,000.00 each if they will agree to return to Africa, that is after all their home, that is why they insist on being called Africa-Americans instead of Americans. If you do not consider yourself an American then you are not. My ancestors are from England and Ireland but I do not considered myself as either, I was born in America, therefore I am an America.

              • 4 votes
              #3.17 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

              "Illegals cannot vote..."

              ---------------------------------------

              What's stopping them? Because as a former pollster, I watched them do it every election. Who knows how many do it by absentee ballot?

              ```````````````````````

              EngEsq, Wikipedia is not a reliable reference site, but I can see how someone of your limited "intelligence" would defer to it in a debate...LOL! Especially if your a 'liberal' (I am an independent, middle of the road politically).

                #3.18 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                Angela, I'm curious to know how you "watched them do it". Do you know for a fact they were illegal? Or did they have a look of what you picture an illegal to be? If you KNEW they were illegal, wouldn't that have stopped them from voting in the first place? You need to clear that up for someone like me who reads into things. It isn't making sense.

                  #3.19 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:20 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  Comment author avatarRallyforgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Idiot bleeding heart liberals created these bastards with their time-outs, etc instead of punishing these little punks!

                  • 17 votes
                  Reply#4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                  Hey Rallyforge, get off the bleeding hearts BS. What ever happened to take responsibility for yourself. Quit blaming liberals and put the blame where it belongs....on those kids and their parents. People like you make me want to puke.

                  • 25 votes
                  #4.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                  Sorry that is a total lie but I guess if you say it often enough you will get SOME gullible people to believe it.

                  The problem are parents who don't act like parents and blame things on other people like liberals for their own failings.

                  • 14 votes
                  #4.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                  @ Rallyforge .. get a life. Please.

                  You are boring and your anger is misdirected. Is "bleeding heart liberals" the only phrase you can utter? According to you anyone not frothing at the mouth is a liberal.

                  • 13 votes
                  #4.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                  @Rallyforge - If the kids were black and they beat this man because they disliked white people then they should be prosecuted for a hate crime. I am a liberal and do not believe that skin color has anything to do with the capacity to be a bigot. However, your statements are the very personification of bigotry and prejudice and such incidents are just excuses for you to justify your bigotry.

                  • 3 votes
                  #4.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

                  Proof positive that MSNBC is the news source for marxists. The truth hurts I guess...

                    #4.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

                    Not restoring, grenade trolling.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.6 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                    Grenade trolling? SIGH... Sally... Sally...Sally... That's a video game term. Not a forum term.

                      #4.7 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:47 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      I think this guy should sue them (their parents). I think these kids should be in juvenile for a number of years. They might very well have killed this man if neighbors hadn't interfered. They obviously have no remorse, no decency. Society needs protecting from them. My heart goes out to this man.

                      • 36 votes
                      Reply#5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                      I doubt the unemployed guy has the money to hire a lawyer to sue someone who most likely doesn't have any money either...

                      • 18 votes
                      #5.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                      if this guy sued the parents, the tax payers of Ohio will be the ones stuck with the bill! what should be done is have all the parents be held accountable and charged for the crimes their kids committed! ill bet then you would see Jackson, Sharpton, obama and the naacp have a reaction to that!

                      • 11 votes
                      #5.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarJulianDDExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      imgevans..............certainly you jest..............hold the parents responsible? No WAY!!!!

                      Jackson, Sharpton and Obama all have run like cowards! Forget what is right regardless of color ! Sure I hear that.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                      I doubt the unemployed guy has the money to hire a lawyer...

                      Don't worry, Skup! I'm sure that there is a line of sleazy lawyers outside his hospital room chomping at the bits to represent him for all the publicity it will garner. In addition, if this man were to win a settlement, the lawyers will get half or more, so they win wither way...free publicity and money.

                      • 2 votes
                      #5.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

                      This will not work, you cannot sue and collect their foodstamp or welfare money.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.5 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Juveniles or not, this man could have been killed just because these 'children' were bored. Maybe they should be offered a little hard labor to give them something to occupy their minds.

                      • 42 votes
                      Reply#6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                      little hard labor

                      Yes, or maybe even a lot of it.

                      • 27 votes
                      #6.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                      Publicly flog the feral little urchins.

                      • 24 votes
                      #6.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                      Maggieadela..."feral little urchins"...nice choice of words.

                      • 11 votes
                      #6.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                      Time to bring back public floggings and hangings put it on pay per view and decrease State deficits

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

                      We need a white Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to stand and scream about the injustice and how the black youths are terrorizing the streets and profiling helpless whites. If someone did this like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and scream bloody murder anytime a black is a victim we might see some change. There should not be a monopoly anymore on injustice.

                      Until then keep the keep the msn feeding tube in.

                      • 3 votes
                      #6.5 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:30 AM EDT

                      @RTColorado: How dare someone disparage feral urchins in such a despicable manner as to compare them to these 6.

                      @Burning: Sadly, Al and Jesse would just scream "RACISM!!" even louder than usual at anyone who demanded that we all be treated equally. Followed by the media stalking and harassing this person and trying to find anything in that person's past to twist it around and label him/her a violent Commie-Nazi-Conservative-Gun-Toting-Terrorist-Loon. You're forgetting which side is supported by the overwhelming majority of our media coverage.

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.6 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:29 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Bleeding heart Liberals really? Does every story have to be us or them?

                      This is a story about bored teens, who apparently were not brought up with any values, and bullies and punks come from all kinds of families Liberal, conservative, black, white, christian, atheist you get the picture!

                      • 38 votes
                      Reply#7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:18 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarRallyforgeRestored

                      Bullsh*t...it stems to the fact that teens get away with just about anything today because our society does not want to punish them. Bleeding heart liberals lead the charge with this crap citing teens do not have the capacity to determine right from wrong and thus these kids get a slap on the back of their hands and are let loose to wreak havoc somewhere or to someone else!!!

                      • 11 votes
                      #7.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                      hummbird-3359530

                      Indeed. People like to simplify things. It's too much for some people to comprehend that not everything is a black & white, right vs. left problem. It is intellectual laziness at it's ugliest.

                      • 27 votes
                      #7.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                      Rallyforge

                      Blaming a political ideology is a cop out. I relieves you from having to put any effort into fully understanding anything.

                      • 28 votes
                      #7.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                      If being politically left is the cause of violent children then where do neo-nazis come from, you really can't get more right wing than that. Are the whack jobs in the woods preparing for the end of the world some how being influenced by liberals-is it not there fault?

                      • 14 votes
                      #7.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

                      Or just shot them..and claim stand your ground. These children should be charged as adults, fully prosecuted and allow the judicial system to handle the situation. OR we could form a possee and chase them down and allow society to handle the punishment.

                      • 11 votes
                      #7.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                      Ralleyforge:

                      You're the reason nobody listens to the conservative argument any more. With your inane ranting about 'bleeding heart liberals' (can't you find a less cliched phrase, or do you just listen to Hannity and O'Reily?), you solidify the belief that conservatives only have a dozen or so catch phrases that they keep repeating because they have no real argument on why it's OK to crap on the poor while turning this country into The United Corporations of America.

                      • 17 votes
                      #7.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                      So Jeff, how many times have you used "United Corporations of America", a catch phrase, no? If we look at the current 2 men running for the office of President we find a Master's Class in hateful rhetoric, radical ideology, incivility, intentionally misleading and inaccurate politicking from both sides. If the men at the top of our 2 political parties are so willing to lie, obfuscate, misdirect, malign, and display outright contempt for each other, the radical fringe elements of both parties will gladly follow their lead.

                      • 8 votes
                      #7.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                      joemike404

                      What we see from the heads of each political party is a calculated attempt to engage the fringes of each party who latch on to the simple, ideological rhetoric. The debate has been intentionally dumbed down.

                      • 8 votes
                      #7.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                      Joe - we do? Last time that I looked - Obama is center right. I don't hear him declaring that corporations are people or that they should all be killed off. I do hear him saying that everyone should pay their fair share (which is what ObamaCare does). But that is liberal talk to some people. Conservatives now stand for 'steal what you can'.

                      I guess that we are lucky that those liberals (Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, GHW Bush) are not still active in politics. In fact - you nut jobs would probably think that Joe McCarthy would be liberal now - as he tried to make people accountable for their actions.

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

                      Exactly. Every liberal comment I've read has been horrified by their actions.

                      I'm sad I've responded to the Left vs Right comments. We always get dragged off topic by bipartisan bullsh!t.

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

                      it stems to the fact that teens get away with just about anything today because our society does not want to punish them.

                      Bull, I'm liberal and I think these monsters should be put away for life. They will never be anything but a danger to society, so they should loose the right to ever be part of that society.

                        #7.12 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                        I doubt there will ever be a real peace between blacks and whites, maybe a truce but I doubt that to. Black kids are raised and taught to hate white kids by their parents who were taught by theirs and so on. The same applies to the white kids. The blacks continue to want todays generation to pay them for something that happened over 200 years ago. They also refuse to teach their children that it was the African people who sold their own to the Arabs and the whites for slaves, and in someplaces they still do. Black Africans even today continue to slaughter and murder their own. They need to be taught that in reality it was the white people who put a end to slavery and at the cost of many white lives. They need to be taught that the North did not go to war over slaves intentionally, it was because of material resources. They need to be taught to open their eyes and look around and see that they can be and do anything they want if they stay in school and stay away from drugs and gangs. Whites contrary to what some blacks teach do not have a monoply on success.

                          #7.13 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                          Jerry-1927474

                          First of all, the Civil War ended in 1865. Jim Crow laws quickly followed and were in place until the 1960s. This is a far cry from " over 200 ago". Please don't act as if what happened to African Americans is such ancient history. Secondly, rival African tribes may have sold each other to slavers but the slavers were Europeans. Mainly English and Dutch. African Americans were routinely lynched, brutalized and bullied well past the 1960s. There is plenty of proof out there of these facts. I think you need to brush up a little on your history.
                          Secondly, how do you know what an entire race teaches their children? You act like you are an authority on it yet I seriously doubt that you have ever spent time in the home of an African American. Whites continue to teach intolerance and superiority to their children.

                          There are good and bad in all races. We all have our struggles. Instead of furthering division, we should all be trying to work together and that starts with baby steps. My baby step is calling you out. I'm tired of the racism being dragged into everything.

                          These kids are sociopaths. PERIOD. It does not matter what color they are. It does not matter if they live in single parent homes. What matters is that they be held accountable for their actions. And I don't care if they are purple.

                          Oh, by the way, I am second generation white in case you want to know.

                            #7.14 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            Unbelievable. This is almost an exact copy of a story from 'Cincinnati' except that one crucial fact has been removed - the six attackers are black. Now why would they have edited the story specifically to remove that fact?

                            • 29 votes
                            #8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:18 PM EDT
                            Comment author avatarhowieCARestored

                            Isn't it about time we stopped CARING if the attackers or victims were black, white, asian, or whatever? Why should their color matter to you?

                            • 15 votes
                            #8.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                            howie, I'll stop caring as soon as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do.

                            • 19 votes
                            #8.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                            Because, Howie, if the races were reversed this would be a national outrage blasted on the evening news of every station while Jesse and Al cried about how dangerous it was to be a black man walking down the street. Deliberately omitting that detail is a blatant attempt to hide the facts.

                            • 20 votes
                            #8.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                            Well, since you KNOW that you can't control what Jesse or Al say or think, you're simply CHOOSING to be racist. There's an easy solution. STOP being a racist. STOP asking what color someone's skin is. Simple as that. Love your neighbor as yourself, I think I heard someone said once.

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                            howieCA: "Love your neighbor as yourself"

                            Yes, please do...and pass your message on to the 6 @!$%#bags that beat this guy up for no reason.

                            • 9 votes
                            #8.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                            There is a national outrage you dolts. do you see anyone on here saying what happened was a good thing? There are violent scum of every color, political persausion and age. I seem to remember a couple of mass shootings by young white men recently, where was your "outrage" when that happened? And what of all those men who gang raped that 13 year old girl in texas, they were of a number of different races including white, MSNBC never mention the race of any of the men on that story either, where was your outrage then? It is only a racist who cares what race the attacker or the victim was. We are all part of the HUMAN RACE and violence is violence no matter where it comes from.

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                            Yes, please do...and pass your message on to the 6 @!$%#bags that beat this guy up for no reason.

                            Personally, I'd like the beat the crap out of them, regardless of what color they are. My point is simply that their color is irrelevant. It's their act that is to be condemned, not their race.

                            • 8 votes
                            #8.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                            Who cares what race they are, does it make any difference? Black or white, they are cowards! Anybody who 1) attacks someone from behind 2) needs multiple people to fight, is a coward! Just like the people on this board who bring political views into this, any one who cares about race is trying to push their agenda, which in this care appears discriminatory.

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

                            Dr Dave...the race does matter, at least it has on dozens of other cases, why not this one?

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                            Mentioning race in every other case, but omitting it in only this one, is in itself racist.

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                            Race seemed to matter a whole heckuva lot in the Trayvon Martin case! And in every other case where the perp is white and the victim is another race. What's good for the goose...

                            • 3 votes
                            #8.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

                            howie, As Robbie suggests, it is not the race of these assailants in particular that is of concern. The problem is that the liberally biased news outlet MSNBC intentionally excluded the fact that the assailants were black and the victim white. Prior actions by MSNBC make it abundantly clear that if the assailants had been white and the victim black that the coverage of this story would have been very different. MSNBC is acting in a racist manner and we are merely calling them out on it.

                            • 1 vote
                            #8.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

                            Well it is an election year and MSNBC does not report the identity of thugs unless they have caucasian blood in them. It is called bias.

                            All that aside I am sure the parents are as worthless as the kids if they even know who their parents are. Probably raised by Grandparents of the mother as always.

                            • 2 votes
                            #8.14 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:19 AM EDT

                            Again... Who CARES if they excluded the color of the assailants? What GOOD would it have done YOU to have been told that?

                            You say you're "calling them on it". Why? For what purpose? To change their behavior so that in the future, you ARE told what color criminals are, especially if they're not white? Why? So you can confirm in the darkness of your own heart that people different from you are evil?

                            Or do you just want to bash what YOU perceive to be liberal bias whenever you can? If you don't like this site, you're free to read other news sites, you know.

                              #8.15 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

                              Wow. I just noticed my first reply was collapsed. That's pretty sad, when I suggest that we as a society should stop worrying about race, and there are enough people who object to that idea to hide the post. What would Jesus say about a country that holds such hatred for its own people?

                                #8.16 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:03 AM EDT
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                                sue the parents for not watching the kids and all medical bills and emotional toll. the kids show no remorse, they should be tried as a gang and held to the strictist punishment. kids these days are not being taught responsibility or consequences, this hopefully will wake up parents and kids.

                                • 18 votes
                                Reply#9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                                What are you and the other "sue the parents" advocates babbling about? You have no idea who raised each "child" or how. The theory that people act only according to the standards of their upbringing is incorrect and stupid. There are countless examples of families with a few great kids and one monster; the fact that all were raised materially the same indicates that nature sometimes trumps nurture in shaping human character. Destroying the parents only adds to the tragedy; the most important thing is that these violent thugs be separated from the rest of society--and this is where all us need to pressure pols, prosecutors and cops, because they have failed the country miserably in this regard. Demand that they stop spending precious resources on filling prisons with non-violent "offenders" and focus instead on the repeat violent offenders who are the source of so much misery and pain in society.

                                • 4 votes
                                #9.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                                Ericstrong, you do realize that parents are financially responsible for their children right? Even if they are good parents?

                                • 6 votes
                                #9.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                The fact is, these kids are black. So they probably have no father at home. The mothers

                                probably have no money, so who to sue for damages? Whatever happened to the

                                "Scared Straight" program? Maybe that would work.

                                • 2 votes
                                #9.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:52 PM EDT
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                                Comment author avatarSSM-513390Restored

                                Mahaney was walking home from the store in North College, Ohio, Saturday with a six-pack of beer, looking forward to a quiet evening watching sports . . . and has been unemployed for years.

                                Is it just me???


                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                                Unemployed people can't drink beer or watch sports? That's a new one.

                                • 32 votes
                                #10.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                So are you saying a unemployed person should not be able to enjoy a beer?? Yes it is just you!

                                • 36 votes
                                #10.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                SSM...yes it's you! You completely ignore the beating story and focus on the beer and his employment status? Wow!!!

                                • 23 votes
                                #10.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                Dude,

                                Even unemployed people aught to be able to enjoy a couple of beers and a baseball game. What, would you rather him live in a box and ask you for your change that you wouldn't give him anyway?

                                • 21 votes
                                #10.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                                Yes SSM, its just you. The normal people found that information irrelevant to this man being randomly attacked and senselessly beaten.

                                • 10 votes
                                #10.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                i'm sure he just wanted those beers to relax after a long hard day of searching for a job.

                                • 1 vote
                                #10.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                I wish it was just you SSM, but somehow I know this post would be here. I guess we should bring back the poor house! Or better yet debtor's prison. Don't worry, if the Republicans win the White House, those things just might be possible.

                                • 5 votes
                                #10.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                                dave-735909 why limit your thinking? Let's take in all the poor, grind them up and feed them to the other poor? It'll create jobs too!

                                • 1 vote
                                #10.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                                SSM---he bought the beer what is your issue?

                                  #10.9 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:14 AM EDT

                                  What's your problem, he's unemployed so he can have his beer and watch sports.

                                  I know I can't but that's only because I must get to work in the morning and/or be available for work if they should call me unexpectedly during the night as sometimes happens.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #10.10 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:18 AM EDT
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                                  Mathiun: It is not just a little hard labor they receive, it should be lots of hard labor and getting their asses kicked until they are no longer bored. Try about 6 months of un or not boring happenings to them !!!

                                  • 7 votes
                                  Reply#11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                  it should be lots of hard labor and getting their asses kicked until they are no longer bored.

                                  When do people go to jail/prison and come out rehabilitated?

                                  Yes, I agree they need to be handed adult sentences- but in all reality, there isn't anything we have in the system now that will ever fix them. They'll go in (no matter where they go, be it juvenile or adult) and come out 'harder', with a more skewed view of things, and even less concern for general society.

                                  Prison doesn't rehabilitate anyone- it makes the problem worse.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #11.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                                  They won't get any labor, hard or otherwise. That would amount to slavery, and the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton would definitely be on that immediately.

                                    #11.2 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:29 PM EDT
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                                    This article calls them children. I call them untamed animal. Who does this and where are the parents? No respect anymore!!

                                    • 21 votes
                                    Reply#12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                    Most kids aren't like this. These kids are bad, perhaps even evil. They are disgusting. Don't insult the animals.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #12.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:03 PM EDT
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                                    Great kids, huh? I'll bet their parents are so proud. Bet they'll all be on the Dean's List at Columbia in 7 or 8 years.

                                    I'm reminded of the old adage: Some people are alive simply because it's against the law to kill them.....

                                    • 22 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                    FhvnFred..................well said!

                                    I bet not one of those boys have a positive male influence in his life..................Oh, I am not talking about a crack head pot smoking uncle, or a male relative in prison 2-3 times, or a high school drop out with no job..................I am talking about a man who mentors them in the "right way" to live and respect others.

                                    No bleeding heart here! I feel that they should be punished with the maximum as legal and be made to work to pay restitution. Work? LOL - not sure they know what that means. No excuses.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #13.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:31 PM EDT
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                                    Why are little thugs like this released to their parents? This is felonious premeditated battery. They should be kept in custody until their trial then shipped to the juvenile facility until age 25.

                                    • 21 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                    WOW! They got to go home??? I guess it will be up to the community to deal with them properly.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                                    This guy who was beaten should be allowed 10 minutes in a room with each one of these lowlifes, one at a time, and he gets a baseball bat. Whatever he's able to do in that 10 minutes is suffice.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    Reply#16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

                                    The juveniles and the parents probably do not have any money to be sued for and are probably a product of the welfare system.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                    According to the mother of two of the poor misunderstood little boys, Latasha Alford, 32, said that while not excusing her sons’ actions, they did feel peer pressure to go along with the other boys". Well Latasha we now know what scum your raising and where they will no doubt spend many years and that's in jail if they live long enough in the hood.

                                    • 18 votes
                                    Reply#18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                    Ah, the old "good kids that fell in with a bad crowd" defense. Hyperlame...and hyper-meaningless. As soon as her sons starting hanging around with the rest of them, her sons BECAME the "bad crowd".

                                    • 21 votes
                                    #18.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                                    “They were pretty arrogant in the interview with us,” Foust said. “It’s appalling. I think it’s despicable. This appears to be premeditated and there was no remorse on behalf of any of the assailants. Thirteen-year-olds ought to be playing basketball, not running the streets looking for ways to entertain themselves at the expense of somebody.”

                                    No remorse on behalf of ANY of the assailants....

                                    But they felt bad when they got in front of you, huh mom?

                                    BS!

                                    Parents lying for their kids. I wonder where the kids get the attitudes from? Looks like Latasha is doing a bang up job...

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #18.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

                                    Awwwwwwwwwwwwww poor Latasha! If they were my boys they would know what Hell was!!!! Yeah, they would also forget about peer pressure!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #18.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

                                    Mom's 32 and boys are 13, 14 maybe this explains a lot!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #18.4 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:28 AM EDT
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                                    Perhaps they need a good beating themselves, from some older kids, the cops batons, or from some Real Hardened Criminals, when they spend some time in jail

                                    • 11 votes
                                    Reply#19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                                    House arrest? These predators should be in juvie - not back with the parents that raised these soul-less, sub-human cretins. If these lowlifes can actually be transformed into functioning members of society, it won't happen at home.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                                    The parents are absolutley responsible, my 3 boys would never even think about pulling this @!$%#, they have thoughts of helping people in their heads.

                                    I would like to see each of them get the crap kicked out of them seperately by 5 or 6 people, eye for an eye. We're so affraid of sending a stern messsage so why don't we have these little @!$%# heads go three rounds with an MMA fighter???

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                                    I bet these are the good kids you can tell by the pictures on the mother facebook, She is teaching them how to count just look at those fingers going up..oops sorry those are gang signs!

                                      #21.1 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:26 AM EDT
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                                      Lock the little basterds up in juvenile detention and let the older kids in juvenily detention beat on them for awhile and see how they like it!!! If my child was one of the kids his ass would have stayed in juvenile detention, because if they would have let him out to come home his little ass would be begging to go back to juvenile detention!!!!

                                      • 14 votes
                                      Reply#22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                                      There's a town called spokane in wa.st. and the kids are running in groups and attacking single people.Not people in groups.They're a bunch of cowards using gang mentality.We do have a stand your ground law here.One day these punks are going to come up on someone with a cwp and that wil be the last of jumping people here.Maybe at least for them.

                                      • 12 votes
                                      Reply#23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

                                      Thug brats from thug parents did this. Follow the message that NBC wont tell.

                                      “It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

                                      Of course it was just a coincidence that he was white and they were not.

                                      • 19 votes
                                      Reply#24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:40 PM EDT
                                      Comment author avatarBAX-Common-SenseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                      And I bet they all look like Obamas boy would if he had one.

                                      • 12 votes
                                      #24.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                                      @Bax - and the lowlife cowards who murdered strangers in a temple and movie theater look like YOU! Congratulations on being in the same category as these predators - worthless piles of shyte that this world would be better off without.

                                      • 9 votes
                                      #24.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                      i love how people like bax have "common sense" in their SN yet fail to show any of it...

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #24.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                      @ Bruce in Austin and David saint,

                                      Um unless he turned asian-american in the last 60 seconds no he doesnt look like me. Nice try MR.I-Make-baseless-assumptions. But to david's point, havent you noticed that in the last year when the current "news" establishment on this site states that an attacker was captured that unless he is a "white latino" or a caucasion college student the color never gets mentioned?

                                      I defy anyone to not see this trend coming from this media. Wonder how Al and Jesse feel about this?

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #24.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                                      BAX-Common-Sense - more like LAX common sense.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #24.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                      @ monkey

                                      That's the best you can do? So you throw teenage diatribe at a serious question in effort to lesson the truth of it?

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #24.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                                      Bax-Common Sense

                                      "And I bet they all look like Obamas boy would if he had one."

                                      I think that is a totally acceptable talking point to bring up. It actually struck me as an astute observation of a totally uncalled for previous statement issued by my president.

                                      I voted for Obama but cringed when he said that. I also lost a lot of respect for him that day. Of all the people in this country you would think that our president would be impartial until after all facts of that tragedy had come to light. But alas, it just proves that we DO live in a Black vs White world....still....

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #24.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

                                      It's interesting that the "community" collapsed my additional comment that read - And I bet they all look like Obamas boy would if he had one.

                                      It's a total shame that you cant quote our fine president on these forums without having those quotes being collapsed.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #24.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

                                      Al and Jesse love this. The media does exactly what they want. They hype up when a white person does something and cover up when a black person does something.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #24.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

                                      It's interesting that the "community" collapsed my additional comment that read - And I bet they all look like Obamas boy would if he had one.

                                      What got me about that comment is if a white person had said it rather than Obama the immediate response would have been "Racist! Do all blacks look alike to you!?!"

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #24.10 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:23 PM EDT
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                                      I bet they won't be bored in prison once the become someones byatch.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      Reply#25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                                      hey repubs, shouldnt you be more concerned that the victim has no health insurance and has been unemployed for years? wheres the get off the food stamps/welfare comments? oh wait, its because he's white

                                        #25.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
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