
Former Penn State University athletic director Tim Curley, left, and ex-Penn State Vice President Gary Schultz are charged with lying to a grand jury investigating suspected child abuse involving the university's former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.
ANALYSIS
Many probably thought -- and hoped -- that the verdict in Jerry Sandusky's child sex abuse trial would end a very uncomfortable national conversation. The criminal proceedings still pending against former Penn State officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz will dash that hope.
Curley and Schultz are accused of failing to report their suspicions about Sandusky’s behavior with minors to law enforcement authorities in 2001 and lying to the grand jury that investigated Sandusky in 2011. Both men have pleaded not guilty to all the charges. At a hearing on Thursday, attorneys for both men and prosecutors will argue several pretrial motions, including one to dismiss the charges.
If the charges are not dismissed or pleaded out and the case goes to trial, they will require a judge or jury to determine how complicitous these men -- and perhaps others -- were in facilitating Sandusky's crimes.
The perjury count in this case is somewhat unusual. At the time of the preliminary hearing, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania argued that Curley and Schultz lied to the grand jury when they characterized Mike McQueary's report of a 2001 incident in a Penn State shower room as "horsing around" that did not involve criminal conduct. Their testimony otherwise matched that of McQueary's father, John, who was called to testify as a corroborating witness. McQueary's father testified that McQueary described inappropriate and possibly sexual conduct.
Until March 30, 2012, the prosecution's case rested entirely on the legal conclusions these men drew from the facts that the younger McQueary related to them. Unless the prosecution could show that Curley and Schultz believed in January 2011 when they testified before the grand jury that Mike McQueary described a crime to them in 2001 -- a very difficult task -- then this count was doomed to fail.
Read more legal analysis from Wes Oliver
But in March, the prosecution responded to a defense request to explain exactly the falsehoods it was alleging occurred in the grand jury testimony. In addition to the legal characterizations about the incident that the prosecution claimed amounted to perjury, the Commonwealth added some new claims. Curley, Penn State’s former athletic director, denied knowing anything about the 1998 incident. Schultz, a former vice president at the university, claimed that both the 1998 and 2001 incidents were reported to a child protective agency and that when he learned of the 2001 incident, he did not look into the 1998 allegation. Email traffic has demonstrated these statements to be false.
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As the prosecution continues to base the perjury count -- at least in part -- on Curley and Schultz's characterization of the events, however, the trial will turn on the information they had about Sandusky in 2001. Questions long asked will be renewed. If Mike McQueary saw, and reported, a very serious and criminal incident in a shower, why did he do nothing to stop it? If McQueary described molestation to the late Joe Paterno, Penn State’s legendary football coach, why did Paterno not immediately call Curley, Schultz or the police? What did McQueary -- who described anal sex to the grand jury, but two or three slapping sounds and an awkward moment at the preliminary hearing -- actually say to Curley and Schultz?
In many ways, the issues in a Curley-Schultz trial will be more compelling than the issues in the Sandusky trial. With the jury's “guilty” verdict in Sandusky's case, we can now identify him as a pedophile without undermining any presumption of innocence. He was driven by warped motivations. A psychosexual disorder with a focus on adolescents -- a diagnosis the Commonwealth's expert opined may apply to Sandusky -- is by definition a disorder.
But what about those rational people who allegedly facilitated him? What signs were they willing to ignore rather than risk Penn State's reputation? The Freeh Report characterized Curley and Schultz -- as well as then-University President Graham Spanier and the beloved Paterno -- as being fully aware of the threat Sandusky posed to young men on the campus. The defense of Curley and Schultz will necessarily challenge this characterization and will no doubt be a welcomed voice to this national conversation by staunch Paterno supporters still reeling from the NCAA's invalidation of the school's football victories after 1998.
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first, even a member of the Freeh team stated " i was shocked to find out this was being used as fact." Second, its full of opinions not matched by evidence or facts. Notably, it states that emails were sent to joe pa about this issue, only HE NEVER OPENED his email system EVER! (yes, that is a fact) Third, the cops investigated the 98 incident AND DID NOT BRING CHARGES! So how is a university supposed to fire someone over an substantiated claim? THEY WOULD BE SUED had they. That onus falls on the detective who failed in that case. Fourth, it should be noted that the Board, not graham, not spanier, not joe pa, gave him the access to the school. most of which were part of his charity. Fifth, and lastly, Sandusky is a sick, disgusting individual that i hope rots in prison.
David,
How can you morally defend someone who allowed a child molestor into his ranks to go unchecked?
Yes, Joe Pa allowed it. Because he does not open his e-mail? Another way he did not keep up with the times along with not being educated on the red-flags of people with horrific behaviors.
I took the time to actually read the Freeh report. The conclusions reached in the summary sections are largely unsupported by any direct evidence, particularly where Paterno is concerned. Much of the conclusions are pure speculation and supposition by Freeh, not the type of work I would expect from a former law enforcement officer. If Freeh went into court with his "evidence" supporting his conclusions a judge would laugh him out of the courtroom and any prosecutor would tell him he did not have a solid case. McQueary has changed his story so many times about what he told who and when that his credibility is virtually non-existent. It is this changing testimony from McQueary that Freeh largely used in reaching his conclusions about Paterno and this is absurd. If McQueary really saw what he is now claiming why did he not intercede?!?! Is he so spineless that he walked away and allowed a child to continue to be sodomized, taking no action what-so-ever to stop it!?!?!? Based on McQueary's actions you have two choices - either McQueary is a completely despicable coward who saw an assault in progress and did nothing to stop it or he actually did not see anything and only made suppositions based on noises he heard. If he did in fact witness an assault in progress and failed to go to the police then he is the one that belongs in jail for not taking action more-so than Curley, Spanier, Shultz or anyone else besides Sandusky himself. From his changing testimony I firmly believe that McQueary characterized what he saw as horsing around to the other people in the Penn State administration and is only changing his story now because he feels guilty for not doing more in light of what has come out about Sandusky and wants absolve himself by making it look like he told others that is was more serious and they dropped the ball. The only evidence of Paterno having any involvement in the decisions about Sandusky shows that Paterno wanted to take more, not less action against him. Because at Spanier's recommendation the board had granted Sandusky emeritus status, Paterno was powerless to ban Sandusky from Penn State facilities even though that was what he wanted to happen. The conclusions in the Freeh report are entirely political and most are not based on any solid facts at all. I would ask that people please take the time to read the report before commenting and then maybe your comments will be worth reading.
If you don't like football programs just be up front and say so!!!!! BUT to penn this on Joe is a witch hunt and a half .........
It took a trial to have all of the dirt to come out ... and now you Monday morning quarterback idiots want to hang Paterno ... I say ... FU!
"After talking it over with Joe..."
Remember that email? Yeah, Joe knew what was going on and had a hand in directing PSU's handling of it. Try to argue semantics all you want. It doesn't change the fact they knew what was going on a turned a blind eye to it.
Thank-you 'JS in SD' for being one of the very few people I have seen in comments, regarding this issue, to actually state and stick with verifiable facts, and not the idiotic heresy that most of the PC witch burners endlessly repeat. Yes, it is an absolute shame what allegedly happened to those kids. However, if you look in detail at what is actually known, there is so little in the way of real blame for people like Mr. Paterno that what has since taken place in the way of condemnation is an absolute travesty and gigantic case of injustice. People want to crucify someone so badly they do not care one iota who it is, just as long as someone pays dearly, and very publicly.
I have followed this case fairly closely, though I have not had the time to read the Freeh report in detail, as 'JS in SD' has, and I have to say I do not trust McQueary's change in testimony one little bit. His published accounts of what took place that night are all over the place, and only one of them even remotely alleges that an actual crime may have occurred. And if that one testimony is even remotely accurate then it truly is McCreary who should be publicly harangued for his pathetic lack of character for not stopping the incident immediately, and reporting the incident to actual police officers himself.
As was stated earlier, the entire Freeh report, from the excerpts I have seen, is nothing more than a cheap publicity effort on Freeh's behalf. There are so few facts in it as be laughable when considering how it has been used to wrongly condemn people and institutions. It is at times like this that I find so much of society to be of exceptionally low moral character, and of such incredible ignorance. These are not the kind of people I would ever place myself in harm's way for. They are an absolute embarrassment to the ideologies that founded this country.
If everything that the Freeh report is wrong or baseless, why did Penn. State agree to all the sanctions that were leveled upon them and why did the board of trustees turn their back on Paterno? I really have to get my thoughts gathered and read the Freeh report and where they got their information. For a major university with a previously unblemished reputation to accept such harsh punishment and go willingly to the slaughter only means to me that the university doesn't want more dirt dug up and desperately wants this put behind them. Nothing else makes sense. There are too many side stories from people on the sidelines to just say okay its over. Money is a killer worst than prestige or reputation. I really would like to see how donations and grants have been affected. We know there is a huge fine. We also know that the money from the football games, bowl games and sponsorship is going to be adversely affected. The quality of the team is going to be pitiful. I haven't seen anything how recruitment has been affected and how many members of the team have left for other schools. What percentage of Penn State football graduates were approached by the NFL in the past. Now that the stigma is in place and the school is not going to have a competitive team, how many athletes are going to jump ship to schools that will highlight their abilities?
Joe knew ! Joe knew ! These clods also knew. They all knew !
The only question is whether or not they 'participated' with Sandusky in his rape of boys. And in his destruction of their lives or not.
That is the ONLY question because these clods KNEW !
ofcourse1 wrote "If everything that the Freeh report is wrong or baseless, why did Penn. State agree to all the sanctions that were leveled upon them and why did the board of trustees turn their back on Paterno?"
Penn State has done everything in their power to try and make this whole media circus / witch hunt go away. They accepted the penalties for expediency sakes, and for monetary reasons, and not because they believed the "truth" of the Freeh report. They were willing to throw Joe Paterno under the bus by firing him without a hearing, in order to stop the insane bad press. It didnt work, and the witch hunt was back. So they tear down the statue. Not enough still. Accept these sanctions. Its a policy of appeasement. But ask Neville Chamberlain - appeasement policies seldom work. The mob will be back for more!
While I agree that some of the Freeh report is speculation, there is also a lot of fact in it.
Also, while Sandusky may have been granted emeritus status and had some 'rights' at PSU, JoePa ran the football program and still signed off on Sandusky having camps there, on Sandusky travelling with and staying in the team hotel for bowl games, hell, Sandusky was in the Team Suite at Happy Valley for the home game in late October of last year. Using "I never opened my email account" or "I never read any emails" is not an excuse when it's University policy to communicate via email - what it shows is a lack of responsibility, respect for others, respect for rule and caring. Also, did you see the ESPN Outside the Lines report a couple of weeks ago with the former (I forget the exact title) director of student discipline and the issues she had with the football program and that she was forced to resign?
JoePa is not innocent in all of this.
I suppose all of the e-mails and reports regarding the 98 event and the 2001 event should be thought of as opinion?
These men knew, Spanier knew and Paterno knew. They thought and acted as though they could resolve the issue with Sandusky. Either notes or an e-mail confirms this and it goes further by stating that if Sandusky refuses to cooperate, they will notify authorities. NONE of them were concerned about any child.
Put them all in the same cell as Sandusky. He'll need the protection!
The Paterno e-mail issue is pretty bogus. Yes, he did not use e-mail or computers. In fact, he made a "macho" point of pointing that out for years. And, even if he had, it would be difficult to introduce these emails because he is dead and heresay rules would apply.
But what Paterno did was have assistants do his emailing for him --- including inquiries about Sandusky that show he kn ew all about him as early as 1997. These emails involved Curley, Schultz, and Spanier as well. But instead of being inadmissable as heresay, the emails will be fully admissable, along with testimony about what Paterno said and did bewcause the assistants who wrote them are still alive and able to testify fully. There appear to be, between 1998 and 2011 about 16 or so of these assistants who were involved. Even Paterno's son, a lawyer, has called their testimony "potentially devastating" to his father's memory.
@JSinSD,
If you read the Freeh report, you also read that there was no attempt in the report to produce all the evidence the panel found. They supplied most information to the investigators and Sandusky prosecutors rather than supplying it to support their findings. There was never an attempt by the Freeh report to investigate and produce a legally binding case against anyone. Their sole job was to supply toe BoT with enough information to determine how extensive the problem was and what immediate steps should be taken to protect the University. And iot appears that the Freeh report was correct --- the BoT, Spanier, Curley and Schultz completely failed in their legal responsibilitiers. The BoT ignored that part of the report, ignored the recommended changes, and has made only the minimum changes necessary to avoid prosecution themselves. That is why Penn State is now under academic accreditation warnings.
But the Freeh report dies demonstrate that Paterno, Spanier, Curley, Schultz, and others not yet named, knew since 1997 that Sandusky was victimizong young men --- as many as 100-400 of them according to testimony in the trial --- and THEY DID NOT ONE SINGLE THING TO FIND OR AQSSIST THE VICTIMS. You can apologize for these people all you want, but I wouldn't want you anywhere near my grandchildren. (PS Spanier was the co-foun der of a journal called "Family Issues" and styled himself as an expert in family sexual issues. And his failure is even mkore damning for it.)
"I read the Freeh report and the evidence doesn't support the conclusions."
The report is about 267 pages. A lot of that is exhibits and references. It sums up a months long investigation. Just because every single document and interview conducted isn't described in detail in the report does not mean that they weren't taken into account. We don't have the benefit of being exposed to ALL the evidence that formed the final report. As with most legal type documents, it was probably written in a way to be as concise as possible yet still get its point across.
Here's what I don't get. All the JoePa supporters and Happy Jacks attack the credibility of the Freeh Report. A lot of them are attacking the BoT. They are livid with the NCAA and p!$$ed at the media. They are upset with President Erickson. Yet they still support the football program sans JoePa and defend the University. The new coach accepts the sanctions and wants to move on. He's forgotten JoePa. The university accepted the Freeh report and agrees with the recommendations in it. The university accepted the sanctions. The university pretty much threw JoePa under the bus and made him the scapegoat whether he deserved it or not. So how can you support JoePa and still support the university when they tossed him aside??? They pretty much turned their backs on JoePa. And I'm inclined to view the JoePa supporters who are still rooting for PSU football as doing the same thing.
Not all Paterno supporters support the people in power at the university that threw JoPa under the bus to make this whole mess go away. Yet many of them are astute enough to realize that condemning the whole university because of the actions of a few makes no sense at all. There are thousands employed by the university, ten of thousands of students, and a large community all suffering from this scandal. It does not make up for or excuse the horrible crimes of Sandusky, there is nothing more despicable than a pedophile. What many Penn State supporters would like is to see justice served, which means taking the time to get to the real facts in this case which will not be swift. Sandusky is already incarcerated so the risk of injury to children has been removed, so now there is a lot of work to be done to sift through the real facts behind the rest of the case. It is very complex beginning with the changing testimony of the eye-witnesses that were involved, such as the coward grad student who walked a way from what he originally called "horsing around" and then called a "sexual act in progress", the janitor who witnessed an act of sodomy but is no longer mentally competent to testify. The allegations of cover-up are not something to be taken lightly but to throw accusations and indictments out with out the proper legal processes would be legally irresponsible. I do still support Penn State as a university and find it disappointing that so many people find it acceptable to condemn the the community, university and student athletes because of the actions of a handle full of corrupt power junkies.
"now you Monday morning quarterback idiots want to hang Paterno ... I say ... FU!"
Way to defend Paterno. An FU deserves a ES response. Paterno was a legend until he befriended the devil. Besides, this is not about Paterno anymore this is about the AD and Pres. They are scum of the earth, but the case will be hard to prove in court.
hand em high!
Yo … Penn State, Syracuse and California School Administrators ...Does this sound Familiar? You Bet Cha….Fer Sure.
For years the Vatican has been running its fingers thru piles of Gold Coins and just busting out laughing while their “ Pedophile Priests “ were abusing kids. They knew it and now that they got caught with their pants on da ground, it’s all about “Damage Control” and Protect the $$$$$$$$$$$. Any questions?
Welcome to Penn State Penitentiary………Now do you want to be Mommy or Daddy?
What is in da Penn State Kool Aid? TeaBilly Juice? You Bet Cha…….Fer Sure.
Joe did not see anything. After all he looks like a Monkey looking thru a Block of Ice. You Bet Cha…Fer Sure.
Yo Sandusky ,
Where did ya meet all these Little Boys?
I got to Party with you Cowboy.
Sincerely,
Da Pope
Shouldn't Joe and Sandusky be hanging from da "Penn State" Goal Posts? You BetCha.....Fer Sure
jstdafacts: It's amazing how your incessant comments actually add nothing to an intelligent conversation. You BetCha... Fer Sure.
When are they going to drag Gov. (then AG) Corbett into this?
Most of you clearly havent read the Freeh report, or understood what you read. First and foremost, there is little to no evidence that Joe had a hand in attempting to cover this up. Im not writing to defend Joe though, he clearly knew something was going on, but based on evidence presented, he was not "in the loop". Penn State has accepted all sanctions against them and followed all recommendations to remedy the bad press (yes, ESPN and other mainstream news sources have screwed this up once again) because this goes a hell of a lot deeper than a few administrators.
Governor Corbett was the General Attorney at the time of the first attempted Sandusky indictment in the 90's. His investigation failed and when asked about why he did nothing, he has blown up in reporters faces. The bottom line is he accepted a $600,000 campaign donation from the Second Mile and in turn rewarded the "charity" with a $3M grant. Corbett then did every thing he could to condemn Penn State, despite the fact he was on the board. This is not a Joe Pa problem, but a University administration and political problem. The true extent of this cover up and financial gains from political agendas may never be known.
My name is ruined. True to form until the end Joe.... me, me me. Good riddance!
Penn State also covered up the Climategate scandal involving Michael Mann. The University should lose accreditation for 5 years stopping all federal funding.
I can't believe Penn State is still running a football program, or any intercollegiate sports for that matter. It just goes to show that the money generated by big-time sports has hopelessly corrupted and undermined the the integrity of this institution. We've already seen the duplicity that they use to defend the exploitation of students in these Division 1 programs, and now, even after the Sandusky tragedy shows the true nature of these programs, the university continues to defend its golden goose through a veil of lies. Shameful.
As a Pennsylvania resident I am petitioning my representatives to discontinue all appropriations to Penn State and all other educational institutions that run sports programs as profit centers. Universities can continue to run "professional" sports franchises if they choose, but not with my money!
I'd like to see true minor leagues develop for football and basketball and put these big-money university sports programs out of business.
Yeah that would be real smart, then we could all pony up five times more than we are now.
Joe, Tim and Gary all knew that Sandusky was abusing children for years. Thats why they fired him and banned him from the school property. What they are guilty of is not notifying the police of the horrific crimes they knew were being committed. Just like the catholics, they handled it internally and just "transferred" Sandusky to a different "parish". If an NCAA program is not given the death penalty for raping children for 10 years, what do they have a death penalty for? Penn State should be shut down and turned into a penitentiary.
What a mess the innocent one's have to face at Penn St. For along time I thought my only beef of the Penn St. football team was one year they upset Alabama. This is ten thousand worse. I have no answers on what else needs to be done. I will leave that to the Judge.
Parents, don't think this is the only place. These child sexual abusers are placing themselves in that place were they can take advantage of your child. If anything Parents, learn from this Penn St. ordeal. Protect your children.
I'd suggest you read - The Franklin Coverup...and then see how a couple of the people from Omaha, oddly, have connections with this.
"...as being fully aware of the threat Sandusky posed to young men on the campus."
Huh? Young men? Sandusky went after minors. He went after young boys. He was found guilty on 45 out of 48 counts. This is poor journalism by Wes Oliver and it mitigates the monster that Sandusky has been convicted of being.
Applying the term "young men" to males on the campus implies that they are at least 18 years old. At least that is what I was always taught - if you were male, you were a man when you turned 18. Until then you were a minor, an adolescent, etc. That group of "young men" is not the group Sandusky was convicted of preying upon. Mr. Oliver needs to review the convictions.
"Thats why they fired him and banned him from the school property."
Really? He was banned from school property? Show me. Show me WHERE you read that. Show me how you KNOW that.
You can't. Because it isn't true.
Jerry Sandusky retired in 1999 and was given emeritus status by Rob Erickson. He was given full access to everything he wanted, even against Joe Paterno's WRITTEN request.
In a handwritten note by Paterno on Sandusky's retirement proposal, wherein he asked for access to all athletic facilities (Freeh report, Exhibit 2G) it reads: ‘Is this for personal use or 2nd Mile kids. No to 2nd Mile. Liability problems.’
So, at least as far as keeping kids out of the football facilities, for whatever reason, Joe Paterno did make an attempt, and, as we see- he was turned down, effectively negating the tired “What Joe Paterno wanted, Joe Paterno got” refrain that so many people like to reiterate.
If Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens weren't convicted of perjury, I doubt that these two will be. Not saying they're innocent, I just don't have much faith in the system when it comes to things like this. If/when they aren't convicted, then all the delusional JoePa supporters will tout this as proof that he is innocent and the program is being martyred.
Just because a criminal burden of proof isn't met doesn't mean you're innocent. Look at Casey Anthony, O.J., etc. There are a ton of examples of instances where it's clear that somebody isn't innocent yet prosecutors go for too high of charge or a technicality bars certain evidence leading to acquittals.
Muddy the waters all you want but the fact remains that the 4 horseman knew about the incident in 1998. They also knew in 2001. Regardless of what the result of the official investigation in 1998 happened to be, it should have been a red flag when a similar occurence happened in 2001. Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me.
Did all of you convict all Catholics of being child molesters during priest scandals? Keep that in mind before you condemn an entire University, including alumni, current and future students, athletes, and professors. There are sickos everywhere... unfortunately.
So true, were there cries to take down the Pope and the whole Catholic church when in recent years all the scandals involving priests and young boys starting surfacing?
The cries were pretty much everywhere. Even today people still make comments condemning all Catholics as a result of their own coverups/scandals. When the Sandusky news exploded in November the first "too soon" jokes were "I didn't know Penn State was a Catholic school." Jehovah's Witnesses recently had their own child abuse scandal hit the news but that somehow got lost in the shuffle. Anybody and everybody knows about the Catholic Church and PSU scandals. The same can't be said for the JW scandal. None of that makes the condemnation right, but there's no use in whining about it because that's the way life goes. Saying the Catholic church isn't being criticized the same as PSU is just silly because they have been criticized for years over their scandal. Good people in the Catholic church and PSU unfairly suffer from their respective group's collective black eyes.
I've heard local PSU fans say that Notre Dame should face NCAA sanctions for what the Catholic Church did because if Penn State was punished for Sandusky's crimes then Notre Dame should be punished for the church's crimes. Sucks for them that after all these years of standing on the pedestal with JoePa and looking down their noses at other schools for NCAA violations that the biggest scandal in college sports history brought them crashing down to Earth in the worst way.
Isn't it odd that the DA's office, Child and youth services, and police investigated Sandusky in 1998 and could find NOTHING, but good ole Coach Joe is demonized for not having the clairvoyant power to know the future of Gerry's actions
So you have to be clairvoyant to realize that something isn't right when another incident is reported 3 years after a similar incident? Doesn't matter what the outcome of the '98 investigation was. The '01 incident should have thrown up HUGE red flags knowing that there was a previous incident whether charges were filed or not.
1st time around, it's investigated, no charges are filed...no problem. Second time around? Don't even bother getting the proper authorities involved? Wait to report it because you don't want to disrupt somebody's weekend? Change the decided upon course of action "after talking it over with Joe"? Gooby, please.
The released quote from the upcoming authorized biography says it all. He spent his entire life building his name and now it's nothing. Shows what his priorities were.
Who are the "proper authorities" in this case? The police? The head of the police was notified. Once that was done, it was out of Paterno's hands. If he had tried to go to more agencies after he notified the police, it would have been the wrong thing to do, and it could have actually interfered with a (properly run) investigation.
Unfortunately, in hindsight, we all know that people above Paterno did not fulfill their obligations, and the investigation that should have occurred never happened. However, back in November, when all this broke, the deputy state prosecutor handling the case said that Paterno did the right thing, and handled himself appropriately.
The head of campus police who is under the influence of the circle of power? The head of the campus police that was part of the e-mail chain with the "after talking it over with Joe" landmine? Back in November the deputy state prosecutor wasn't privy to evidence that has surfaced since then. Attack the credibility of Freeh and his conclusions all you want but the fact remains that the e-mails still exist and say what they say. The opinion of 1 million JoePa supporters can never change the hard evidence.
Not to mention, the DOE is also doing their own investigation into whether or not the Clery Act was properly followed. Depending on the result of that investigation, the whole notion that "he did what he was legally required to do and handled himself appropriately" might be shattered entirely.
What kind of country are we when some think a win from a game is more important than child abuse? You know, if someone who was working for or with Paterno had a child abused by sandusky, This would be a murder trial instead of a perjury case
When a game is more important then someone's child, there is something wrong. You know, if someone. with children, who worked with paterno found out their kid was abused, this would be a murder trial instead of a perjury case.