Learn what exactly? Should they just pick up and move the entire population??? Well why not evacuate Kalifornia then as well due to fires, smog, earth quakes, and mud slides... not to mention the ten of thousands of gang members and hundreds of thousands of illegals.

Learn that only idiots, except the Dutch, build cities near the water on land that is below sea level. Yup, dirt levees are really smart.

When something other than media hype happens here let us know.

States doing the right thing mostly but the media going over board...

ISAAC - The greatest Hurricane that never was?

If the forecasters could get it "more" right maybe people would be more willing to leave or take better precautions. Media needs to shut the hell up too.. they don't know what their talking about half the time. They need to report more on what they see, not what they think. Too many times people went through a lot to protect themselves and their homes only for a false alarm. People are reluctant to leave their homes because of looting. We can put a man on the moon but we can't predict the weather more accurately. I don't understand that at all. I can't understand why they build in such vulnerable areas either. As time goes by they need to build more inland instead of wasting all this money tyring to hold back the water... that's like putting up a ceiling to keep the sky from falling in.

Brad Watson, Miami Tropical storms become hurricanes when they reach 74 mph sustained winds. Why 74? Why not 75? GOD=7_4, whereas, G is the 7th letter, a circle can be 15 or zerO and D=4. 7/4=July 4th or 7 April 30 AD: Good(7__4) Friday when J10+E5+S19+U21+S19=74 the king(74) of the Judeans(74) - the Jewish(74) Messiah(74) - was on the C3+R18+O15+S19+S19=74. Assigning a number(74) to a letter is called Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74) where words with similar sums have a connect(74) between(74) them. Y'shua(74)/Joshua(74)/IESVS(74) was born on 17/4/748 AUC (April 17, 6 BC). Earth has 7 continents and 4 corners/4 seasons. ('7 seas' and) 4 oceans, 74% of the planet's surface is water. With the naked eye, the ancients could see 7 moving objects(74) in the heavens(74) and 4 don't cast shadows(74) on Earth. The lunar months(74) are 4 phases of 7 days (7.4 days). Lunar year + 7 day week + 4 days = solar year. Venus is .7 AU & Mercury .4 AU from the Sun. Besides Earth, this solar system has 7 planets & 4 trans-Neptunian dwarf planets. Saturn’s ‘4 seasons’ are each 7.4 years long. Human pregnancies are 40 weeks (7x40), etc. ~74% of the elemental mass of this universe is hydrogen. ~74% of everything in this universe is dark energy(74). Now we see that GOD the Grand Architect of this Universe is real and why a T.S. becomes a hurri.(74) at 74 mph.

Pass the bong, Brad. I'll need a few good hits if you want me to engage in mental masturbation with you and accept that steaming load of weasel manure you just typed up there.

So, this thing is not a hurricane yet? So far, a lot of publicity for nothing. Hopefully nothing happens to New Orleans.

" when will the city ever learn..." This comment is ignorant on so many levels. What is it that they are supposed to learn? To move? Who has the money to relocate in this economy? Jobs are scarce as it is. Do you think there are jobs just waiting for these newly relocated people wherever they may go? Having moved to Houston about 6 months after Katrina hit, there were NO jobs. Over 100,000 NOLA residents had relocated to Houston. So, the evacuees had no work AND the host city's population suffered tremendously. New Orleans is a port city. That means the majority of the blue collar workers work in careers like oil, shrimping/ fishing, dock work, etc. You can't find that kind of employment everywhere. There is a large Naval base there as well. I grew up just outside New Orleans until my Dad was stationed in Texas. The people and sense of community is STRONG there. The friendliest people you could hope to meet! They have an amazing spirit about them. They will get through this just as they got past Katrina. And for those patting W on the back, where were you 7 years ago??? Certainly not in any of the areas affected by Katrina. I lived in San Antonio at the time and our city took in over 10,000 evacuees. Some estimated close to 50,000 on initial response. I heard the horror stories firsthand of what these people went through. They were treated like cattle and prisoners being deprived of medications and access to bathrooms and showers. People died just trying to escape the concentration-like camp they were put in AKA the Superdome. Our government's response was a disgusting display of apathy for it's people.

Eastside- ChicagoGirl - What the hell are you talking about. Since when does a human control Mother Nature. You sure as hell ain't from the South. That would be like a forecaster trying to tell which house or houses a tornado is going to hit. That way we wouldn't have to leave our house if the tornado wasn't going to hit it. I know for you it is pretty hard, but try and use some common sense before you speak!!!

Humanfirst-Don't blame Bush-he didn't bring Katrina, mother nature did. The person to blame is the Governor, Kathleen Blanco and the Mayor New Orleans, Ray Nagin. Blanco did nothing to get the people out nor did the Mayor, in fact Nagin packed and fleed to Texas instead of staying and helping his people. Blanco refused help from the President. He wanted to bring help in early on and Blanco is the one who refused. I live just 1:45 from New Orleans and I had relatives and friends who hooked up their boats and drove there to go help those people get out and when they got there, they were told to turn around and leave and could not help them. My brother went and he said it was horrible to see all those people in need of rescue and horrified and our local government would not let them help these people. They made them leave. There were numerous people with boats that went there to help and made to leave. So, I don't see where Bush is to blame, when our stupid governor did not even want the national guard to come in and help. She outright said no to the President, guess she thought she was going to do this on her own and get the glory for it. It was her job as the governor to warn people, which she did way too late and it was also the responsibility of the people themselves to know what is going around them. It's not like they are closed off the outisde world and didn't know a storm was coming. Our governor was too busy spending taxpayer money traveling the world than to use our money to build better levee systems. These systems were outdated and it the reason why the disaster happened. It never would have happened if those levees would have been strong enough, never. So you blame the corupt LA. government for what happened. At least we now have a governor that has brains and knows how to govern his state and has been working hard to clean up this state.

I just hope that it passes through relatively quietly and that this winds up being PURELY media hype- its a shame to see such a fantastic, beautiful city put under like that. I mean, obviously theres a lot of drinking and people essentially passing out drunk in the streets- but its also some of the best food in the states (up there in my world count too- and I live in Italy...), has an incredibly rich and interesting culture- not to mention the music! Good luck NOLA!!

Kanic- I did not blame Bush. Allow me to clarify. What I said was "for those patting Bush on the back..." Nowhere did I assign blame to him. The aftermath of the hurricane was grossly mishandled. NOT ONE person should be given accolades for what happened there. That starts from the top down: President, FEMA leaders, Governor nor mayor should be congratulated for it. As far as people trying to enter the flooded areas after the hurricane hit, that is an unfortunate necessity. Due to the potential for widespread looting, and of course the dangers involved, once the National Guard (or any law enforcement agency) is involved, typically your average Joe wouldn't be allowed in. There was a mandatory evacuation in place.That would be like me running past a police blockade into a burning building that already has 30 firefighters present. Absolutely, the people suffering on rooftops, high ground, etc needed help. It's sad we live in a society where we would keep people from aiding each other.

HumanFirst, I agree pretty much with both your posts.

But, everybody seems to want to hate FEMA and other emergency responders because of their apparent ineptitude before and after the storm. With FEMA in particular one of the big issues surrounding Katrina and in fact also the delay with Isaac is that the FEMA districts are split along the La/Ms border. La falls in the district with Tx, Ar, Ok,NM. Ms is in there with Al, Fl, Ga. May seem trivial but it makes a bureaucratic nightmare. Fed agencies tend to wait too long to decide where they are going to go to set up their command center(s). In reality they should redraw the FEMA mapping and put all of the Gulf Coast into the same region so as to avoid bickering as to which region's dollars are going to be spent.

One thing I am glad of though this time around is the hard stance they have already taken on those who look at this storm as simply being another chance for a hand-out. Those on SNAP have already been told they are NOT getting their "extra" storm funds which they were asking for. People were given more than enough chance to prepare. Even with the cone wandering all over the place, waiting until 24-36 hours beforehand to get supplies is lunacy when the area was realistically ALWAYS in the cone.

....and Romney celebrates while New Orleans floods..........

If this were the Democratic convention, the religious right would be saying this was a sign from God.

Human First

I live in Houston and one thing we dont need is another Katrina Crime Wave, I dont care where they go as long as they dont come here. They blamed Bush for Katrina, I wonder if they will give Obama the same credit for this one.

HumanFirst - what

What is was saying was that New Orleans should not have been built there in the first place.

i was saying is that Nes Orleans should never have beeb built

Humanfirst-I will never blame Bush for any of it. I feel sorry for the guy that our governor tried to put the blame on him to cover her ass after she refused the help. Our Governor should have let him help when he wanted to, she refused the help, she refused the national guard coming when he wanted to bring them in-who fault is that-it's hers and hers alone. And where was mayor Nagin-he took off and left his people-what a leader that was. It makes me angry after what Blanco did and she tried to cover it up and blame someone else. There was a lot of covering up on our State's part-it was easier to blame Bush than take the blame herself. To this day, she still has not accepted any blame. When asked why they didn't use buses to get people out, it Mary Landrieu that said we couldn't get to them-well DUH there should have been a plan before it happened. As for the people from here going to help-the national guard had not arrived yet. My brother brought his boat out there along with a parade of others. They were in the water and people putting people in thier boats to get them out. There were people everywhere trying to jump in the boats to get out, that is how terrifed they were. They just wanted help, and the authority there-whoever that was-made them stop helping people and leave. How sad is the fact that there were people drowning and begging for help and good little governor would rather see people die than allow them to be helped. Surely didn't see her out there trying to help anybody. La is a state of very friendly people and when things happen here we come together to help each other. The people in our community had the means to help people get out and save lives and instead our local gov't kept them trapped there. The people of this state need to be grateful that we have Bobby Jindal because he truly cares about the people here.

• Lawrence- I am not even sure what your last statement meant or why it was addressed to me. That's not even a coherent message??? My previous comments had nothing to do with you. It was in direct reply to the original poster. Hence, the quotation marks around "when will the city ever learn..."
• Voter- agreed. FEMA needs some an overhaul in organization.
• Steve- Thank you for reiterating my point. How can a group of people, most with limited means, be able to relocate? And where would they go? We are talking about 500,000 to a million people in that region. (Number would depend on which area is supposed to "wise up" and go) What city or region could host this mass exodus? It's just not realistic, is it?
• And Kanic *waving a white flag* There is no need for blame. But, likewise, no room for pats on the back. This is, and always was, my point. Politics have no real place in natural disasters. I never assigned blame. You have repeatedly done what you accuse me of. I am not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican. I don't see things in left and right or red and blue. I see humans. That's why I have this screen name. You are not going to ever see me jumping up and down to defend Obama or any politician. And obviously Bush can not be blamed for a hurricane. That would be as asinine as speculating that Obama somehow conjured up Isaac to disrupt the GOP convention. *chuckle* (Sorry couldn't help myself on that one ;)

Bottom line-this is probably a buncha media hype anyway. Looks like the Gulf Coast is going to get through this fine. All this panic the media tries to stir up on false alarms is the reason why most people don't take these evacuations that seriously. People just need to pull together and stop trying to blame one another. You can't blame residents who live near water any more than you can blame those who live near a fault line, river, wildfire region or tornado alley. You take all that away, where are you supposed to go? And how would we deal with trade? You can't blame the people who built the city. I mean you could, but I don't think the people in France really want to hear about their ancestor's infrastructure design flaws. You can't blame the people that were in office at the time as if they had a magic wand to banish hurricanes and repair damages instantly. What you CAN do is recognize the mistakes that were made throughout the ENTIRE system and try to build on a better plan so that never happens again. To commend ANYONE is to not acknowledge the failings that occurred.

Anyways, it's been nice discussing this with y'all. But, I have a busy day ahead. Making that money so I can pay those tax dollars to make this country great! Have a fabulous day :)

From the article: "Isaac has 70 mph sustained winds, four miles below hurricane strength."

What the hell does that mean?

It's no wonder the meterologists have a hard time forcasting. It's like their hoping and waiting for the winds to pick up for no other reason than they can be right for a change.

maddog-752810

I know exactly what you mean. IF they could only hear the way they are talking. (not that it would help any)

Oh oh, it was just upgraded to a hurricane as I write. I bet the media and meterologolist are happy now ! That's terrible. I hope it gets their a$$e$ since they love so much being/standing in it.

Come on, Isaac. Turn EAST toward Tampa!

Hey, they changed the title of the article.I'll bet the meterologists are breaking open the champaign now.

Oh oh, it was just upgraded to a hurricane as I write. I bet the media and meterologolist are happy now ! That's terrible. I hope it gets their a$$e$ since they love so much being/standing in it.

It was the meteorologists who did the "upgrade." There are specific categories of weather systems and as Isaac grew larger, it was upgraded.

You really seem to have anger issues - these people are just doing their job.

I would blame it on the GOP, but that's their brain-dead tactic that I'd rather not stoop to...

Here is hoping that New Orleans residents are sparred any harm or damage!

there will be some local flooding areas, as long as it stays a2 or less, then the damage will be minor; Katrina was combination of failures, badly built levees, most pump stations were inoperable( the city government to save money did not keep them in repair), A VERY DUMB Governor, A MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF WHO RAN LIKE A SCARED RABBIT, A A FEMA HEAD WHOSE BACKGROUND WAS A HORSE-SHOW JUDGE, AND COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING; LETS HOPE THAT THE LESSON WAS LEARNED AND NOT REPEATED.

Hey Suds - You are an azzhole. If the dems were having their convention in Tampa this week you'd be crying that Romney made the storm hit their convention (you know how us conservatives have the power to direct those nasty storms so they take out as many blacks as possible!)! Idiots like you are scarier than the horror that is our president. We can get rid of him but the morons who vote for him will be here forever...unfortunately. Maybe with our incredible power to point storms at whoever we want, we should start pointing them to morons like you.

they will find away to blame George Bush...

Kanic--you are one of the first people to actually put the blame on the people who deserve the blame! Bush couldn't just send in the National Guard, he had to get permission from the governor WHO REFUSED. The ones to blame for the Katrina disaster in New Orleans are the mayor and the governor and the people who refused to leave knowing their city is below sea level but didn't use their brains.

Obama has emergency help in place just in case it is needed. Isn't it refreshing to have a real president that works for the people and not like the last one who attended a fund raiser while N.O. was drowning? It took 3 days for the Bush administration to respond. How many lives did that cost?

@Brad Watson

74 mph is equal to 119 kph!

1 in 19 posts on MSNBC is from a lunatic.

I you add the two together you get 193.

193 is only 6 more than a 187...which is police code for MuRdEr ! ! !

Your on to something.

@John in Battle Creek

Refreshing would be the city of New Orleans evacuating like they were told...both before Katrina and Isaac.

Every death could have been avoided.

Come on, Isaac. Turn EAST toward Tampa!

this is exactly what is wrong with this world. there are some people (quite a few) that don't think politically the way that you do, so let's wish them harm. that's just brilliant.

As expected....obama 's Chicago MOBpolitics is taking a crises- albeit a small storm, with needed water in a drought--and twisting it to fit the PROPAGANDA of the media...

anyone with a lick of sense can see this has nothing to do with Repub's or Bush...

amazing what some people will believe from the PRAVDA Press!!

SabotAndHeat,

Your post 1.36, above, is idiotic. Please don't waste our time with your stupid, senseless posts.

Brad Watson, don't know why they collapsed you, it was a funny post....you DID mean it to be funny I presume.

As for Katrina, I believe that Pat Robertson blamed the gays - "God hates fags" - so now it must be, um...not sure. It's a very republican state. God hates the RNC? If that were the case it would have directed the most damage to Tampa.

Give me a minute whilst I try to figure out who god hates the most....I'll get back to ya. (seriously, it's the weather folks, swirls of energy twirl off the African coast and head west this time of year. It's called meterology....a science.)

I pray that the impact of Isaac is minimal and that God protects everyone in its path!

By the way it takes a really horrible person to have so much hate that you wish injury and or death on anyone. There are quite a few posters on this thread that need to examine their beliefs!

Alan,

Stupid post is what we are here for, as you have proved.

Keep smiling!

Louisiana has 9 letters; one more than Aardvark

Aardvarks have been known to eat bugs; there are over three species of bugs

three has five letters in it which has four letters in it which has four letters in it.

There is only one moon orbiting earth which is exactly three less than four

The moon has a density of 25 denses squared; I like rectangles

Football fields are rectangular; LSU lost the National Championship to Alabama

Alabama has 7 letters in it; Are rainbows squishy?

I think brontosaurus is better than appatosaurus and that Pluto's a planet

Alabama has 7 letters in it just like Orion's belt has seven stars( don't look it up)

Orion's belt points directly at New Orleans every seven years on Aug 29th

Orion is the God of Hurricanes between categories 1 and 3

As prophesied this means Buddha is coming back and he will destroy Croatia

Wow, Julia. Paranoid much? Go take a pill, sweetheart. You have way too much anger in your life. Or is that insecurity with the GOP you are upset with?

Ah get it... Suds thinks you're crazy Julia... or childlike(sweetheart)... or filled with hate... or insecure... The point is you're a terrible person based on your political affiliations and Suds is a wonderfully grounded, mature, loving and confident young lady based on her political preferences. I have sources (post #1.47) that indicate this is true; it's on the internet so that makes it true. I found out just yesterday that I am actually the hind quarters of a horse; I did no know this.

JQ:

"Orion is the God of Hurricanes between categories 1 and 3

As prophesied this means Buddha is coming back and he will destroy Croatia"

Dang JQ, I'm glad you got that all cleared up. I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Brad Watson, Miami Comment collapsed by the community

Tropical storms become hurricanes when they reach 74 mph sustained winds. Why 74? Why not 75?

GOD=7_4, whereas, G is the 7th letter, a circle can be 15 or zerO and D=4. 7/4=July 4th or 7 April 30 AD:Good(7__4) Friday when J10+E5+S19+U21+S19=74 the king(74) of the Judeans(74) - the Jewish(74) Messiah(74) - was on the C3+R18+O15+S19+S19=74. Assigning a number(74) to a letter is called Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74) where words with similar sums have a connect(74) between(74) them. Y'shua(74)/Joshua(74)/IESVS(74) was born on 17/4/748 AUC (April 17, 6 BC).

Earth has 7 continents and 4 corners/4 seasons. ('7 seas' and) 4 oceans, 74% of the planet's surface is water. With the naked eye, the ancients could see 7 moving objects(74) in the heavens(74) and 4 don't cast shadows(74) on Earth. The lunar months(74) are 4 phases of 7 days (7.4 days). Lunar year + 7 day week + 4 days = solar year. Venus is .7 AU & Mercury .4 AU from the Sun. Besides Earth, this solar system has 7 planets & 4 trans-Neptunian dwarf planets. Saturn’s ‘4 seasons’ are each 7.4 years long. Human pregnancies are 40 weeks (7x40), etc.

~74% of the elemental mass of this universe is hydrogen. ~74% of everything in this universe is dark energy(74).

Now we see that GOD the Grand Architect of this Universe is real and why a T.S. becomes a hurri.(74) at 74 mph.

One problem; the bible wasn't written in english. Also, 71.13% of Earth's surface is covered by water not 74%. There's 124 seas, not 7. Dark energy, which really can't be measured (as it ceases to exist as soon as one tries to measure it), is estimated to make up 70% of the universe, not 74%.

I do hope your post was a sarcastic one, if not, please wait while I point at you and laugh.

As expected....obama 's Chicago MOBpolitics is taking a crises- albeit a small storm, with needed water in a drought--and twisting it to fit the PROPAGANDA of the media...

border joe,

And how exactly has he done this? I assume you'd rather he ignore the danger and not respond at all, even when people are stranded on the roofs of their homes begging for help. Yep, best to ignore it, hell, that's what the last president did.

SabotAndHeat, Tranquil Nihilist, Kathy531928, JQ12261891, & VirginiaDemocrat78,

You just took a test and FAILED. 8/28/11 is your Judgment Day. GOD & I find you guilty of hindering world unity and world peace. Sentence: 'bad luck' for the rest of this life, then 74 years reincarnated as non-human for this one offense - you all have many more.

See 7seals.yuku.com

The biggest problem is we as taxpayers are going to be out alot of money again helping idiots that moved back to a city below sea level, with inadiquit levee's, pumps that cannnot handle 10 inches of rain, and one of the biggest area's of crime both before and after katrina. they should not recieve a sinngle taxpayer dollar for any damage this time, Either they bought insurance , or they did not learn from last time and no point keep throwing money to keep them from learning that they are idiots. (my wife was smart enough not to move back there). If it was not for Katrina the alley's around that city would still be filled with trash. One of the dirtiest cities i used to have to go to regularly.

As big and slow as this thing is, it doesn't need to have 80 mph winds to do major damage.

1,800 deaths from Katrina; plenty of blame to go around no matter what your party is.

bscol...How does the mind of you sadits really work? I can't comprehend wanting people to die. these are the makings of mass murders.

@Reality Check-1104333

So by your logic, all those wild fires and drought are punishment by God for being Republican, right?

Brad,

Do you always place curses a year late? Have you ever heard of KARMA? It is a bitch.

Yep, I seen it with my own eyes...I seen one of them there weather people reporting on the little ol hurricane, why he just upped and ejaculated all over himself while reporting on the storm....gollleee, them boys sure do get excited....I'll bet Jim Cantore will be standing out in neck deep water tomorrow, just to show us how bad it is...

bluthunder -

FYI - They do not build pumps that can handle everything a hurrricane can dump as quickly as you seem to think they should. New Orleans and southeastern Louisiana do, however, have the largest capability in the word for evacuating water in a timely manner. The pumps were specially built a century ago and are repaired as needed because no one makes them like that any more.

General comment to all the religious postings and the mockers that mock the religious postings:

The BIG picture is that WE ARE ALL ON THE EARTH for punishment.

The earth is a prison for the criminally insane.

Look around you what do you see?

Rapists, child-molesters, rich abusing poor, war-mongers, drug dealers, evil government, mankind going out of their way to pollute and destroy the earth, etc...

What sane life form would do that?

Answer: No sane life-from would.

We ARE ALL CRIMINALS and INSANE.

It is that simple.

If evolution WERE true, the UNIVERSE would be full of ET'S. The universe is 4 TIMES the age of the earth.

Evolution would HAVE HAD TO BEGUN somewhere else long before we ever were.

So where are the ALIENS?

Butt555 - your name says it all. What an idiotic statement.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who is going through the hurricane right now ... assuming you still have power to reply. Would love to hear what your current experiences are.

Why is it necessary to have the National Guard on stand by for looting? Are there other coastal communities doing this? There were devastating tornadoes here this year. No looting at all. The only reason the National Guard was here was for emergency support and aid. Things that make you go, Hmmmm?

Butt555, that is a very racist and ignorant post and I hope you are banned for life from these message boards. You are a sad, pathetic person.

Mr. Thom -

Yes, they should migrate away from frequently damaged areas. It is the best solution. In many circumstances FEMA will help pay for the move. Please do it.

I am sure that if the hurricane doesn't do any real damage to New Orleans the press will have video of Obama standing on the shoreline with his arms outstretched and music from "The Ten Commandments" will just happen to be playing and Obama will talk with his famous "God Reverb" effect telling the hurricane to leave these poor people alone! If it does any real damage, just blame George Bush! The Obamessiah!

Procrustes ... we see that your comment was collapsed.

It is a fair question. Pat Robertson and the other "holy" men of the boob tube ... and heck, Pat says he can "pray" hurricaines away ... what say you?

What about it Pat?

Wo ho ho, time for a new pair of shoes!

And Isaac (the great) makes landfall as a minimal CAT 1. The world is coming to an end. Couldn't even manage a CAT 2. If this is a "big test" of the new levee systems N.O. is in trouble. But then, Someone had the brilliant idea to build a city below sea level. They should have not only drained the swamp, but fill it in to above sea level, but hey, hind sight is always 20/20 and all those sound engineering principles some how don't apply here, right?

Oh well, toall the chicken little's of the last few days, and you know who you are with all your gloom and doom NOAA, NHC, predictions, better luck with the next one. Who knows, maybe you'll get the CAT 5 you seek and gleefully watch the whole sale destruction, lose of life and of course, the inevitable looting, robbing, raping, pillaging and killing. All under the watchful eye of the police who abandoned their posts and their oaths. Who will you blame then? The Mayor, the Governor Perhaps or could it be you'll blame Mr. hope and change? Time will tell. The hurricane season is just getting cranked up.

Any looting yet?

Nice that even a weak hurricane can knock the GOP off page 1 of the news. Of course all the GOP is doing tonight is eating their own and listening to Mittens's wife say what a great guy he is.

This is in reply to Lawrence Grossman FYI New Orleans is 50 miles upriver from the Gulf of Mexico.Unfortunatley the whole state is lowlying country as is most of Florida. As a gulf Coast resident I do remember last years hurricane flooding parts of NY,Pennslyvania, NH,NJ And Vermont. Should all those people have known better too. I have a term for all you ever so bright liberals Subsidence-it means that as the ground water gets used by people living there the ground subsides or gets lower. Now when New Orleans was founded by the French or Spanish it wasn't 9 feet below sea level. Now it is. Now when this storm goes inland and floods all the states probably as far north as Illinois should all those people have know better too?

It backed off because Troy Landry threatened to stick a hook in it's ass and choot it.

Human First your comments while they sound compassionate lack some truth. I was in Houston and dealt with refugees within my community (a mere 1,000,000). I saw crime in Houston skyrocket and my son's school (high school) became a scary place for him to be. I saw the local 6 flags amusement park close it's doors for good after Katrina evacuees utilized federal funds to purchase year round passes, and the made the place unsafe with nearly daily violence and even murders. You say there were no jobs? I laugh, as a restaurant Manager I only saw an influx of applications from Katrina evacuees when the 2 year funding limit was ending for them. When I asked why they were unemployed for the entire two years the response was " I didn't need a job, I was getting a check". So while you sit on your throne of judgement let me assure you that while most people feel compassion for people who have lost their "homes", and their lives are a mess, those same people are not willing to subject their families to the fallout that comes from a situation like Katrina. How many refugees did you take in?

Butt 555, Perfect name, you are a total ass and not quite evil enough to get past dumb.

Quoting the video caption above:

"Isaac, now a Category 1 hurricane, has already brought flooding rains to Charleston, S.C."

Charleston? Is this a typo?

Below sea level people, can you say landfill. Oh yea blame Bush!!!

@ Brad

Hoodoo only works on those with weak minds....mine is not...so you can take your "supernatural" judgement, stand it upright and sit on it. :) Have a great day false prophet.

P.S. I used up all my luck during my three tours in Iraq anyway.

@ Alan290

Poor, poor Alan with no sense of humor. Brad got it. That's why he's pissed.

that and the fact that it doesnt have close to the strenght the cat3 katrina had

Oh, good.....I was worried this particular thread wouldn't turn political! Thank goodness you brought it up!! {sarc}

Oh yes, the republicans do such a great job with national disasters. Seems when Katrina hit, BUSH took a leisurely RIDE in Air Force One over the damaged area. He also turned down any foreign aid or assistance to help the people out. Yep, that's a REAL Republican.

Public outrage over the George W. Bush administration's response to those catastrophes — especially Katrina — shadowed the president and the GOP for years. For Republicans, Katrina is their version of the Carter administration's failed Iranian hostage rescue in 1980, an enduring symbol of collective incompetence, a political wound that will not heal.

@ohiofan,

While I'm pretty sure that if a disaster happened here in Ohio Gov. Kasich would do a great job regardless of any other shortcomings that he may have.............I only have 3 words to say regarding NOLA's Katrina nightmare "Heckuva Job Brownie" . Ahhhh George I miss you so. Never a day went by that you didn't make me smile. Your wit and humour boundless, hilarious at times even when being serious :) Mittens isn't even half the man that you are ;(

Ohio fan people like you are an embarrassment to Ohio

She kicked Jindahl's butt in the election......just saying.......

I totally Agree. New Orleans survived Katrina which says a lot about the people that live there. So those of you who think God gave you a given right to judge.... think again. They will get through this one and still be the wonferful City that most like to go party and visit...Bet when your there sucking up the brew and pissing on the streets cause you cvant find a bathroom, your not complaining!

Its about time: Why would the US take foreign aid when we handled it fine from our own money? I for one am glad we did not take the aid because now we dont owe anyone.

Yes Ohiofan, you are so right! That was a LOT of what went wrong. The right hand didn't know (or care) what the left hand was doing - so THEY DID NOTHING......or too little too late.

Obama has emergency help in place just in case it is needed. Isn't it refreshing to have a real president that works for the people and not like the last one who attended a fund raiser while N.O. was drowning? It took 3 days for the Bush administration to respond. How many lives did that cost?

If Bush had landed in NO they would have looted Air Force One, just like the looted everything else.

NOLA deserved everything it got with Katrina. The State and City, (Blanco and Nagin) were offered federal help before the storm hit and they ignored the offer and the warnings. Bush could not move federal troops or workers into a State without permission to do so by the governor of that state. Keeps Presidents like Obama from invading your state and taking away your freedom. That won't last. Barry will ignore that law like all of the others. Meanwhile NOLA better take heed this time or they can all drown. Stupidity abounds and they voted for Obama. The Chocolate city will just rob each other and loot the downtown areas if the water rises high enough. Cesspool needs another cleanout procedure. I was down there with the military to help and the goofy baboons tried to kill us. Keep the quarters and bury the rest.

President Bush had Katrina, Obama has Issac, and McKinley had Galveston.

Hurricanes originate with the warm air in Congress but are blamed on Presidents.

The people of New Orleans should also take some solace that a Republican is no longer in the White House.

Wolf Blather is calling it a national crisis.

RepubliCON LA Gov. Bobby Jindal gave a news conference earlier this afternoon where he took a shot at "the Federal bureaucracy" while asking them for millions in assistance. What a hypocrite! He then referred to the Coast Guard(?) providing "74 boats" - the GOD=7_4 Masonic(7,74) Code(4).

Wally -

National Crises may only happen while Congress is in session. Its a rule.

The thing about Katrina is that it is the first time in modern history that such a catastrophe happened at such a level due to the breakage of the levees. If the levees had not broken, New Orleans would not have been as bad as it was. Because of the level of devastation, there was no plan in place by disaster relief agencies for such epic proportions of needed help. Katrina helped to rewrite the book on disasters for all agencies: FEMA, Red Cross, Southern Baptist Disaster Relief, Salvation Army, and other agencies. I know people like to blame the government and others for what happened during Katrina, but everyone was caught of-guard since this level of devastation from a hurricane had not happened before. It's sort of like how people generally prepare for a disaster for their home ... but once a disaster has hit, they make sure they are definitely prepared in case it happens again.

Itsabouttime... How about during the gulf oil spill when Obama refused international assistance because they weren't union! When Bush flew over damaged New Orleans he didn't land because he did not want to tie up needed police and firemen with his arrival! I am sure that Mr. Obama would not even hesistate flying into the damaged city to get a photo op!

Dis is good! I been needin' a new roof.

BTW Folks Wally-1853299 Is a One Line Computer Generated Sock Puppet that just defaces Real Posters with it's Nasty Little Remarks.....Don't Believe Double Click on its name.......And at what it posts! One Liners Without Content or only Pro Government Propaganda.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media.....Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act."~George Orwell

Can't wait the see the new and improved, messianic FEMA!

no BO in 2013

I-belive, learn to spell.

I love the pettiness....You must not play Chess

Yes. One would think that long term plans would be to move the city and give up this area to industry and shipping.

How old is New Orleans? How long has it been where it is now? That is part of the charm of it. Unfortunately like Humpty Dumpty, after all of these years, they can't seem to get it together again. Why?

It's a reveler's town, a popular place to drink and screw with the charm and ambiance of deep history and renegade politics. It will never be moved, just cleaned by nature from time to time.

The original city, like the Quarter and the Magazine district, never floods which is why they were settled by the French with the advice of the original Indians. On the other hand, all bets are off if you build in the 9th Ward, or for that matter Plaquemines.

First of all, the Midwest floods more annually than N.O., period! Look it up. Do Mensa candidates have plans to move the Midwest someplace else? Or even any city like N.O., how on earth is it possible to moving an entire city, not to mention one of the oldest in our country.

Guess you genuises also didn't know that the Port of South Louisiana in N.O. is the LARGEST bulk cargo port in the WORLD largely because of its prime location near the mouth of the Mississippi. I guess y'all need to get a thinktank session going on how to resolve the little issue of relocating the largest export/import venue in the U.S. - oh, and the Mighty Mississip.

Also, N.O is the garden city of the South. It has more indigenous culture, food, music, art, and architecture than any city in U.S., not to mention its incredibly significant historical importance. It also has a thriving and growing economy despite what the rest of the country is doing. If you think N.O. is just a place to booze it up that sounds like your PERSONAL PROBLEM. The locals know how to live richly but not too - N.O. is a city of survivors, history has demonstrated that

Tranquil Nihilist, yours is an apt description for most large port cities. Sailors at sea for months on end are much more likely to seek wild women. good music and smooth whiskey than church steeples or quaint neighborhoods. The same can be said for the hard working men that travel hundreds or thousands of miles to sell and trade their wares to the ocean faring merchants visiting the city.

The same low land at the mouth of a mighty river and on the shores of the sea make it both a very valuable and very risky piece of real estate. Port cities such as New Orleans serve vast portions of our country. They are national treasures worthy of our support many times over to keep them alive and vibrant.

The West Bank of the river is above sea level as is the French Quarter and the Irish Channel (around Magazine St.) and much of the Garden District. It is the 9th Ward and the Lower 7th Wards that are below sea level.

Consider this -

The city sinks at a rate of about a centimeter per year. Before the levees, this was replenished by the yearly floods. With them, that silt gets dropped into the Gulf of Mexico.

Perhaps a better solution to moving the city would be to figure out a way to use the silt from the yearly floods to spread out to rebuild the land naturally as it was done in the past.

The original city, like the Quarter and the Magazine district, never floods which is why they were settled by the French with the advice of the original Indians.

Not entirely true. Part of that area (not the Quarter, tho; the Indians knew what they were talking about) was under 15 ft of water in the aftermath of the Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1812....in addition to what was then known as Barataria Bay (in Plaquemines), where the infamous pirate Lafitte brothers were based, & St Bernard Parish.

They didn't name them then, nor were there meteorologists tracking them, but historians culling thru anecdotal evidence & records of the period estimate it was a Category 5 that hit on Aug 18-19, 1812. It also was to the west of New Orleans.

They knew it was coming....a ship sighted a tropical storm off Jamaica on Aug 14th & was able to outrun it to spread the word....but the frantic last-minute sandbagging efforts went for naught to protect the city. The levee began breaking up around midnight on Aug 18. Anyone living in a one-story shotgun house was doomed b/c the water level was over the roofs. Ppl living in 2-story or higher homes were trapped several days on the upper floors, waiting for the Mississippi to get out of their living rooms. Pretty much every glass window (an expensive luxury then) in the city was shattered. Casualties in the southern part of the city were close to 100, which sounds like hardly any, but New Orleans was much smaller then.

Old Spanish Fort on Lake Pontchartrain, a US Army outpost, had its parade ground underwater & lost a cpl of soldiers. Fort St Philip down in what's now Plaquemines was a US naval base & had 2 ships riding the storm out at anchor. One of them was blown out of the Mississippi & up its banks! The Navy lost 8 men.

If it wasn't for this hurricane, New Orleans would've been captured very early on (war on Great Britain was declared by Congress on June 18th) in the War of 1812 by the British. The same ship that brought news of the storm also sighted a British fleet in the Gulf of Mexico bearing down on New Orleans. The hurricane scuttled it, & it would be 2 yrs b4 the British regrouped the effort, leading the the famous Battle of New Orleans that actually took place after the war had ende (slow communications in those days).

From my experience with Hurricane George a few years ago. Isaac has more or less the same parameters and because it's moving so slow it's very dangerous and devastating. My advise is to prepare yourself for the worst because when its start you won't be able to do much. Think about this if it's taking so long to hit land How long will it take to pass over the city or state ? One 1 hour will feel for ever.! How do you think you will feel after a Hurricane Category 2 is hitting your home for at least 10 to 15 hours. Beware this is not a game or joke!

Hummm...Carl HUBERT, Huh? Are you sure it's not George HERBERT WALKER BUSH? Come on, man! When are you gonna stop fighting your son's past battles. I thought AARP gave you enough senior activities to keep your mind off stuff like that. Just can't get Obama off your brain no matter what the situation. How sad...

President Obama will handle this situation well. He cannot do worse than the epic failure Bush did with Katrina. Course when it's over, the righties will start the normal "oh this wasn't a hurricane or anything like Katrina".... and any other lame excuse

obama will do an excellent job helping the blacks in the Big Easy with our tax dollars. obama didn't care about the tornado ravaged towns becouse the majority of population was white.

What The #$% do presidents have to do with hurricanes. Idiots.

OK New Orleans, here is a chance to act like a bunch of stupid moron again.

I guess wezzz gonna ride it out!

Somebody call Ohpra,

tell her to get the jet warmed up and point it twords looooooz - E - ana.

7.62x39mm

Really? Is that why Obama responded with support to the Tornado victims and Bush watched people at the SuperDome in AirForce One?

Yep.. bush did such a great job here. I think those FEMA trailers are still rusting in some oil patch.

This just in...It's official! 7.62x39mm wins the stupidest comment ever award!!!!!

It is always fun to pull the Left Wing Liberal Chain and watch them twist in the wind. Already predictions before the storm hits. Just like Socialistic Twinks

7.62x39mm, your post is pretty much based on zero facts.

Like nearly every other state, those on welfare and SNAP in this state are predominantly NOT minorities. Those getting their $2000 VISA cards last time where also a big mix of all races.

Next, unlike during and after Katrina when they simply handed out everything, people are this time being told they are NOT getting "extra" benefits like they did last time. That may seem cruel to some bleeding hearts particularly this late in a month and at a time when many families' budget is running low. However let's face reality for a second, there are few guarantees in life. For most it is simply death and taxes to use the old saying. If you live on the Gulf Coast, there is one thing much more reliable though: the annual hurricane season. Most sensible people start stocking up months before the hurricane season on canned food. Heck, this state even has several weekends during which there is NO sales tax simply to help ease the monetary pain. It doesn't matter what the source of your food budget is, you have to learn to adjust it to where you live. Here that simply means thinking ahead. If you every year ignore the "get prepared" warnings, it doesn't matter what the color of your skin is, you are lazy and potentially playing with your life. You may want to believe that minorities are the most likely to fall in that category, but I can assure you from my observations here that last week was when all the minorities were out stocking up. Yesterday and this morning is when the rest of the crowd has finally decided they'd better do something.

And if you want to turn it political, do so at this state's level not national. This state has had a Rep governor for quite a while now as well as heavy GOP influence in its state government. The fact that after EVERY storm this state starts crying because it doesn't have the money is a DIRECT reflection of the fact that they give businesses ridiculous tax cuts and credits. This state will never move forward until businesses are made to kick in some real dollars. Opponents to this will say those businesses will leave, I say bs. The one and only reason the area around NOLA still exists is because it IS important to industry from oil to grain to chemicals to imports and exports etc. That is not going to change. Federal dollars after a catastrophe here should be limited to being spent by the Feds on Federal infrastructure only. There has to be a limit for how many times the rest of the nation should come rescue a state that does nothing to advance itself. Jindal and others talk a great game, yet sadly they survive on having the state wallets stuffed by subsidies and cutting things that really do matter like health and education.

I'd also surmise that this storm like many will in fact do far more damage outside of this state. Mississippi/Alabama are predicted to get far worse weather than here, yet I can pretty much assure you that the GOP representatives here will be crying the loudest and hardest afterwards to get a bail-out.

Voter inn La- Very well put. NOw if we could just get rid of all the corruption and inside pockets goping on in the State... It would be a really wonderful place to live.

Obama has emergency help in place just in case it is needed. Isn't it refreshing to have a real president that works for the people and not like the last one who attended a fund raiser while N.O. was drowning? It took 3 days for the Bush administration to respond. How many lives did that cost?

You mean like the mayor did with all the buses that were flooded from Katrina and were never used to evacuate people... That kind of help? There was plenty of blame to go around with Katrina, but no one created Katrina... it happened.

I feel sorry for the people who make this about politics and never cared about the people that Katrina effected or about how this storm will effect them.

Bob,

You didn't get Pat Robertson's memo? God created Katrina to punish New Orleans for their sins that made Jesus cry.

Ronald(6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) was the "1st Beast whose actions were the opposite of the Christ, he was ruler(74) of the world, lied to all nations, and was wounded yet lived". George Walker Bush Jr. was the "2nd Beast who imitated the 1st Beast and made fire come down from the heavens(74) with the 'destruction of Babylon' (War In Iraq)". United(6) States(6) Dollar(6) is the "mark of the Beast that everyone must have to buy and sell with" - The Revelation Chapter 13. (The US $1 Dollar Bill on its back has the #13 encoded 13x.)

Brad,

Have you had your medication today?

You people keep forgetting...the LEVEES broke...after Katrina hit. Katrina was a nasty hurricane, the LEVEES breaking were the disaster! You blame Bush, because (of laziness) you don't assign due responsibility where it belongs along the timeline of the disaster: many mistakes were made by many people; myopic, ignorant posters!

Wonder if all of the commenters who were looking forward to the landfall are happy....

Was the "collateral damage" ... worth the fun they had poking fun at the delay of the political convention...?

Wow you truly are ignorant. Its supply and demand stupid. If production slows there is less to sell on the market so the price goes up. Hurricans shut down drilling and cause damage... so it slows the supply. They arent selling the same amount of product at a higher price. Educate yourself before you make ignorant commments like that. Oh wait, to do so you need that computer you aare sitting in front of... which yes... was made from petroleum byproducts.

All it takes is the threat of a hurricane for gas prices to rise. Hit or miss. Who doesn't know that, except you. Big oil companies have been gouging us Americans for years. They raised it during the Gulf Oil Spill. I don't remember their production slowing down in any significant way. Besides, they have huge reserves. They also raised it when Amadinejad threathened to close the strait of hormuz. Did he close it? No! You must have some stock in the company, or something.

Big Oil Companies will always have a manufactured reason for them to raise gas prices with their lucrative government subsidies to boot. Thom, you must have dropped out of high school. You know, it's still not too late to go back. You can do it!

Pete, I think he is right. Maybe you should read a book or something. The price of gas went up in the gulf oil spill because deep water drilling was halted. And as such, the production of oil from the gulf was reduced. Causing a spike in prices.

Pete, I also am waiting to see what Obuma is going to do. Probably go out and play another found of golf!! May also get his Koran and blanket out and see if Alah will make all bad things go away!! LOL - hell he can't do anything right. He hasn't kept one campaign promise. NEEDS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!

You can tell someone is uneducated white trash when he misspells everything while accusing the president of being a muslim. Not only is mocking someone's religion shameful on principle (I'm guessing you are a Christian), there is also absolutely no evidence that Obama, whether you hate his politics or not, is muslim. Do you not care if your statements are totally moronic? Or is that the point.... you are loud and proud to be stupid?

They stopped 80% of prodution in the gulf states because of the hurricane, that is why gas is going to go up. Its already raised 10 cents in my area just today and I'm in New England.

I hope everyone evacuates and not as they did last time. I still think its absolutely stupid to build a City

next to the ocean and beneath sea level...That is beyond stupid..

We shall keep a close watch and hopefully these levies will hold.

You're statement sounds pretty moronic, Dee. You're assuming the poster is christian because of what he posted??? Here you state mocking someone's religion is shameful on principle, but you did just that.

You have no problem with name calling, though. That must not be shameful on principle, according to your principles....

Gas has been going up in New England for the past month or more. I don't blame the hurricane for it.

Hopefully the people this time around will use some common sense and get the hell ouf the way of the hurricane.

People complain about Bushs' handling of Katrina, but what they seem to forget is that he could do nothing without the permission of the governor and mayors. They didn't want the fed's help and ended up waiting too long before getting people out. It turned into a disaster.

Janine-- yea i know but its been a few cents here and there, 10 cents is a big jump in one day. I'm actually in the industry. But when they close down 80% of production because of a hurricane, its just common sense that the price will go up. It doesn't matter if you're in maine or california. That was the point of my post.

Yourekidding-1544479 : I did not mock Christianity. I think it is hypocritical to disrespect other religions if you are a member of one yourself. I assume he is Christian due to other posts he has made in the past. Re-read the post, comprehend a little better, and realize in no way did I insult Christianity. The "name calling" is a reasonable response to someone that judges others personal lives just because he/she doesn't like someones nationality, politics, or as I suspect in this case, race.

Hey Pete, I think those paint fumes are starting to get to you! Get some fresh air.

I liked your statement about it not being a red/blue issue. Then you went and ruined it by making it red/blue!! {SMH} This is NOT political. It's about a raging storm....nothing more!

LS,

I do not think jn made a political statement, just the opposite. The present mayor and governor are more capable than the previous ones; no doubt about that. BTW---the governor is a Rep, and the mayor is a Dem.

Right about that. Blanco was the most stupid governor La. has ever had. Jindal has done an excellent job at governing this state.

LS -

FYI- Landrieu is democrat, not republican.

It seems that you are the one injecting politics into the coment. Do your homework, you make yourself look ignorant otherwise.

By the way, Landrieu has already declared a state of emergency, put the public busses available to evacuate those who are unable to evacuate on their own but wish to, and urged those who wish to evacuate to do so. He has arranged with neighboring parishes to set up shelters as well.

This is already more than Nagin did.

LS - jnauck said the present city authorities are more well-suited than the previous city authorities. that's that persons assessment. can some 'people' be better at their job than other 'people'? you defaulted to making it political. no 'party' can be superior or inferior to another when it is made up of millions of unique and autonomous individuals. it's more convenient and divisive to think that way, but it's not accurate.

New Orleans does not have beaches. We're 50 miles inland.

Wolf Blather is calling it a national crisis.

Dang, i wish it was like the good ol days, when there was no radar or weather channel....it would just blow up and everyone would either run for their lives or hang on and let whatever happens happen...now they build a guy up for the big storm and poof, its a dud...Jim cantore your a pussy in a windbreaker.

Coyotehunter, even an Catagory 1 hurricane can be deadly. You do realize this storm is gonna dump 20 inches of rain in a very short time. That causes massive flash flooding and can claim massive lives all at once if people are not smart and get out.

This thread is filled with people who have no clue about hurricanes and all they know how to do is blame it on politics, religion or race. Sad and pathetic is what it is.

Wally -

National Crises may only happen while Congress is in session. Its a rule.

Are you completely Insane

In times of disaster and possible loss of lives, we can always count on the CLOWNS to make their grand entrance. Let's give them all a round applause, folks!

For those of you in the midwest who have never been through a hurricane, think of it like a tornado that lasts 12 to 18 hours and dumps 12 inches of rain, even though 75 mph winds dont sound like much, I promise that if you stand out in it your opinion will change. Ike had about 110 mph gusts and it sounded like the world was ending, not a lot of fun, huge trees blowing over and landing on houses, transformers exploding, not something I want to go through again.

As I sit here mid-afternoon with the winds starting to pickup and sustaining some gusts . . . . I ponder WHY some ignorant post has to be put out there about flushing toilets . . . Who are you on your high horse to assume that ANY of us down here in south Louisiana (and anywhere in the track of this storm) facing a serious weather situation with tornadoes, flooding and hurricane winds concerned with preserving life and property are even deserving of that comment?????? Really??

The water is pumped into Lake Ponchartrain, the Mississippi, and the Intercoastal Canal. The pumps are electric with generator back-up.

It helps because it allows the water to drain into the sewers and drainage canals and then to be pumped to evacuate the water from the lower areas of the cities.

I wouldn't call it a non-event . . . . it has even happened yet . . . . by Thursday, we will see what event has actually transpired . . . so far this 'non-event' is giving us winds that are picking up slowly with gusts that are becoming more frequent . . . and, we are still hours and hundreds of miles from the storm.

But, I will agree that the media sensationalizes way too much . . . not just about hurricanes, but everything.

Wolf Blather is calling it a national crisis.

A hurricane hitting the Gulf Coast in August is hardly rare. The effects can be devastating, but surely not unexpected. Especially in a city on the Gulf Coast that lies below sea level. I actually think the news media was disappointed when the hurricane did not hit Tampa as expected, and they have been waiting with baited breath to report that it is heading for New Orleans. Oh, yea, as an aside, and the LA and MS coast also.

Wally -

National Crises may only happen while Congress is in session. Its a rule.

settersperch

I would love, to hear you say that. If you were there, at high tide, tomorrow morning. I think you would change your mind. About it being a non event.

If we do that, then should we also move everyone in tornado alley, and earthquake prone area's, area's prone to massive amounts of rain and mud slides, wildfire's and the like? Where would we all live?

I agree, let them tell us where we should live that is devoid of natural disaster threats. Why don't we see more people telling people from California and Washington state to move away from tectonic fault lines and fire-prone areas? Or even Florida to uproot because they get hit much more often than Louisiana? I think its because natural disasters happen almost everywhere and we should help those in need with out scourn so we can all be treated with equal respect when $hit hits the fan. United States.

your apples and oranges does't make sense

What apples and oranges? Do you mean hurricanes vs. fires vs. earthqaukes? Would you care to make a more intelligible analogy so I know what you are talking about? Are they some how different in the federal aid necessary to aid inflicted areas? Please clarify what part of my comment confused you.

Wildfires require NO federal aid if they are in Texas (it's a redblue thing.)

They aren't. The back-up generators are diesel. Main power in the region is gas fired and nuclear. No solar or wind ar anything more than the household level.

Kind of like the Dem. Gov (And Dem Mayor of NO) did the last time?

Interesting though.... Lousiana almost ALWAYs votes Republican in a Presidential race and receives more federal aid then they pay in. Gotta love a GOP Welfare State.

And interesting that New Orleans hasn't had a Republican mayor since the late 1800's and that is the huge sponge that sucks in the federal aid.

Romney:

“I’m in this race because I care about Americans. I’m not concerned about the very poor"

Sorry New Orleans.... Romney doesn't really care about you.

Nagin and Blanco were nothing but a waste of space.

ItsAboutTime-3704531, if you are going to use quotes, at least use the context and full quote. Otherwise, it is not entirely honest.

Yeah, that is not what was said. Or even a good paraphrase

Then don't come here.

That's the great thing about a free country. No one can make you go where you don't want to.

Problem is, even if we choose not to come to NOLA, we still have to dig into our pockets every time there's a storm. You know, the bank cards loaded with taxpayer money so your citizens can go out and buy TV's, booze, hookers, etc. We have a vested interest in NOLA...it's our money. Remember when Texas opened their doors for the poor Katrina survivors? They, of course, took advantage of their neighbors...crime rate was through the roof! I know the truth hurts...New Orleans is a crime riddled toilet.

Julia

I was at the Astrodome helping unload donations when the first buses from NO pulled in, within 3 hours they had formed gangs and were robbing people in the parking lot, and then the real crime wave hit, crime in Houston skyrocketed and most of those criminals never went back to NO. I dont care where they go as long as they dont come here.

Well Julia, I guess our taxpayer money goes to help people all over the nation and the world who experience earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, pays for prisoners, hurricane victims in other states besides La, also to all the earthquake victims who live in worse conditions than NOLA like in Haiti-it doesn't just go all in one place, and oh did I mention all the illegals and illegal criminals coming into this country that are getting our taxpayer dollars. There are a lot of places in the US that are crime riddled toilets, not just NOLA. There happen to be some very nice areas in NOLA, but no one every seems to talk about what happened to those people-it's just the bad sections that are talked about. Like Tammy said and I totally agree with her, don't come here if you don't like it. NOLA is no worse than Chicago, Houston or California. The people here understand our culture, heritage and history and we love NOLA.

Yeah Tony. The 1970s were so representative of 2012. Where do you live anyway? LA? Miami? Kinda like a third world country in those places too, except they speak English in NOLA.

Kudos to that sadworld!

Three hours after your post it became a hurricane.

True. Before Ike hit TX there was Gustav, either a strong cat1 or weak cat 2, a small hurricane that ended up making landfall around Lafayette, LA. But the weather people in Houston were telling everybody to "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE !!!!!" and a good number did. Gustav turned out to be very minimal. Then ten days or so later Ike comes on the scene as a cat 2 and the weather people all said again, "RUN FOR YOUR LIVES !!!!!". Well, a lot of people who had just missed a week of work evacuating for nothing could not afford to miss another week of work over a cat 2 so many if not most decided to stay. Many that were leaving planned to do so in the morning. The 10 O'clock news finally told people that although this was a cat 2 storm, it packed a storm surge of a cat 4. Many people that were leaving early the next morning were already in bed and missed this bit of info and when they awoke the next morning to leave they were already flooded in and stuck.

A lot of the deaths and injuries from Ike resulted from the weather people crying "wolf" over Gustav, and there is blood on their hands for it. The weather broadcasts, especially during a looming disaster, should be strictly informational and not any attempt to get ratings. Accuracy of information is what saves lives, incomplete or inaccurate information is what costs lives. With Gustav it was almost as if the weather people were disappointed the storm didn't hit Houston because they lost their big story.

Current, accurate facts are what is needed leading up to a storm. A tropical storm is just some wind and rain, about like an extended thunderstorm, A cat 1 is a bit more wind, better tie down the patio furniture, a strong cat 2 and it's time to go to a shelter unless you have a good stock of food & water and a good generator, cat 3 or better it's time to go visit the kinfolks in Kansas.

You might want to check your weather updates. It was near a hurricane, and now is a hurricane.

That's the way it was 7 years ago too. I've always wondered that myself!

Fixitman - The reason why New Orleans is the only city of interest is because the idiots that live there have to be hand-led out of their homes when a storm comes. They don't have the sense to come in out of the rain. Therefore, the neighboring areas do the right thing...get out...on their own...without the government to come in and escort them personally - no story here! They get everything else from the government, why not a lift out? And then, after the storm, their hands are out for a nice bank card loaded with taxpayer money so they can go buy some new TV's, phones, hookers, booze, etc. The New Orleans people love when a storm comes...more free stuff!!! And then the liberals come out of the woodwork blaming George Bush for the storm track! He made the storm hit New Orleans to kill black people- remember that crap? Until we get these people off government assistance, put them back to work and start making them take responsibility for the 10 kids they have with 10 different men, we'll always hear when a storm hits N.O.

Seems to me it's the liberals that have their hands out all over this country waiting for the working people to give them hard earned money. Louisiana on the other hand seems to be doing pretty good. Our unemployment rate here is not as bad as the rest of the country is. Seem to me it's not NOLA holding their hands out!

Good lord, Kanic, are you for real? Not from what I've heard.....

In Houston the put the refugees in apartment complexes, and after a year they had to tear the complexes down because of destruction these people caused, not to mention the crime. They screwed up the schools too, most of them were 2 years behind the Texas grade levels. We didnt call it the Katrina Crime Wave for nothing. One thing that sent a lot of the criminals back to New Orleans was their finding out that unlike Louisiana, when you get charged with murder in Texas, we do something about it.

Kanic -

I, too, live in Louisiana - Harvey to be precise. Unlike New Orleans proper, those of us on the West Bank got back to our normal lives as quickly as we could. We did not depend on handouts any more than absolutely necessary. We had a lot of repairs to do, however, after Katrina. We went back to work as soon as our jobs called us back.

Thanks for the recognition on that subject. It is annoying to be dealing with this kind of weather situation and on top of it all not even be noticed for what is happening anywhere else. During Katrina, we in Baton Rouge had our share of storm damage and outages to deal with as well as our city being inundated with over 100,000 EXTRA people needing shelter, food, medical, etc. on top of everything. Our population grew by 50% overnight! No, we were not all flooded out of our homes . . . but, it WAS a very traumatic experience. Not having just the basics -- bread, milk, gas -- much less all of the other resources needed, for residents and evacuees. Did we get any national attention from it??? no. As well, when Ike hit the TX coast my elderly aunt and uncle lost everything; it was all they could do to evacuate from the Bolivar Pennisula (on the east side of Galveston Bay). It made me sick to see how Galveston gobbled up the headlines for no good reason when the Pennisula was literally obliterated . . . yes, really. Now, don't get me wrong, I feel for anyone who has to deal with any stressful event -- but, let's not exclude others and their experiences for the sensationalized hype of one area. I know it will not change . . . . as I sit here and patiently wait for Isaac to come knocking on my door in Baton Rouge.

Yeaaaah ...OK.......I guess.

Nobody reads any posts longer than 6 or seven lines before it gets BORING!!!!!! Take a hint Brad.

Well, I was thinking there could be some kind of truth to it.......maybe, or too much medical marijuana, hhhmmm.........

I hear twilight zone music.