Definitely a good job seals and the rest of the intelligence community, but it seems this guy just wants to make money off this mission, what about the 100s of others who did the grunt work and won't see a penny? I hope he is willing to share the proceeds with the rest?

SuMka

The proceeds from this book are going to go to charities to help the families of fallen warriors and veterans. He is not making any money from this book!

The word "SEAL" is capitalized.

This guy is a piece of @!$%# for writing this book as far as I am concerned. I have no respect for him and feel he has done a huge disservice to the SEALs and the the military as a whole. The SEALs have long had an unwritten policy that you do not talk about your missions, you do not write about your missions, and that other than in official records your mission never happened. This is what has kept the members of these SEAL teams safe for all these years. The minute some @!$%# like this starts writing books and bragging about SEAL missions they set up the SEAL teams to be targets for retaliation on the part of every extremist and terrorist group out there. The safety of the SEALs has always lied in their relative anonymity and the general lack of knowledge of most of their exploits. I realize that in today's world keeping their exploits secret is virtually impossible, but that does not mean that one of them writing a book and bragging about them does not increase the level of danger current and former members of the SEAL team are placed in during their day-to-day lives. This guy broke a sacred trust in writing this book and I am sure is being shunned by virtually every other current and former SEAL on the planet. The fact that he has found it necessary to go into hiding because his real name has gotten out clearly shows why he never should have written this book. If you have a problem putting your name on something you are doing, then maybe you should really think twice about doing it. People should be proud of their actions, not hide from them. The fact that this guy is hiding from his actions shows that even he knows on some level that what he has done is wrong.

This piece of history was re-written as we heard it the first time from the guy that wants to tell the American Story, re-written as well by him of course. So as this SEAL came out and told everyone what REALLY happened, the same will be with the "Rest of the story (RIP Paul Harvey)". And lets keep in mind that re-written is a nice way of saying LYING!

The proceeds from this book are going to go to charities to help the families of fallen warriors and veterans. He is not making any money from this book!

Archangel, I didn't see that in the article. Can you provide a link to a reliable source? Not doubting you, just never heard that.

@JS in SD

Richard Marchinko, the founder of SEAL team 6, has written books about missions in Vietnam, and the events that led to him being courtmarshalled because of making military installations look bad by having his team infiltrate dockyards and other targets just like terrorists would (excellent series of books btw...). This isn't the first book by a SEAL about their missions, and it won't be the last...

JS in SD- I don't understand how you criticize a man who wanted to give a true account of what happened. Not the White House version which was false from day one. Unless you believe the lie, which is the Obama administration. Who believes he killed Bin laden and takes credit for. Yes he made a grown up call but in reality, the SEAL did this country a huge favor. And I am glad it was a kill mission. I wouldn't want to see Bin laden all over tv every time he had a court date. Thank you to all our military for the service you and you family provide. A true American would be appreciative of your sacrifices.

This guy is NOT a SEAL. No honor. Firing squad like yesterday

Yes, it is an account of just one eyewitness of this historical mission, yet it is more valuable to me than the manicured and politically motivated official version of events. As a former soldier, I love reading accounts of other soldiers experiences. Fortunately for me, I did not have to serve during the war, but I have a tremendous respect for those who did.

JS,

Take it easy there tough guy. I have read several books written by Navy SEALs so now because this guy is telling the actual story of what happened instead of some talking head politician giving the version he thinks will score him some points in the election the SEAL is the bad guy? I agree he should keep his mouth shut for the time being but get off your soap box. And I highly doubt you would have the stones to say this to his face. At least all the money is going to charity. And thank God he wasnt killed in action, other wise his family would have gotten a prewritten letter that was e-signed by Barry like the SEALs from Team 6 that were killed in the helicopter not to long ago.

Paul,

Since you are such a tough guy why dont you go find him and see if you can bring him down. Thats what I thought punk.

Js in SD - Normally I agree completely with what you say however this time I do not. The SEALs missions are covered very thoroughly in comparison to the other special operators. The SEALs are the limelight show boys when it comes to unconventional warfare and tactics. Most other divisions hate having anything mentioned about them. SOD-D (US Army special operators in general also), Rangers, Recon, LRRP units and Cav. scouts, 160th SOAR, and 24th STS. You'll almost never hear their stories and they like to keep it that way. SEALs on the other hand...

Yes, I understand Operation Gothic Serpent (Black Hawk Down for those that don't know) was highlighted by the 75th 3rd BN however, the SEALs, Delta, 24th STS, 160th SOAR, an infantry division, and some other were involved in it. Not to mention it was an multinational incident that resulted in the loss of many lives. Mostly, Rangers (not stating that to undermine other losses, just fact). By now I know you've seen other posts I've made. You know where my facts come from: experience.

So don't call this SEAL a #%$@%$^^ or whatever. Sometimes you just have to tell the story. Plain and simple. At least he's donating the money to help fellow soldiers. Not keeping it to get rich.

Good Work to all that made it happen..... Too bad there was one that never heard of the saying LOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS..... I know if I interviewed him for a job knowing he wrote the book I would never hire him.....

John Doe,

Right on. If everyone recalls right after the mission happened it was leaked that it was Team 6, and they were pissed off that they were called out. They didnt want the attention and they were just doing their jobs. But if the politicians want to play ball they just got ran over. They used the SEALs for their own gains and now it is biting them in the rear.

Yes, we may have more than one account of some of the details. Yet we are all willing to immediately jump to support one account and discount the others, without any shred of evidence one way or the other except for someone's written word. We are very willing to accept that which fits our preconceived notion of politics and the political system, and discount the rest as errors, or worse, lies, simply on the word of one individual, an individual who has shown his character by disregarding protocol, tradition, and the trust of his fellow SEALS.

STP,

I see your point but how do we know that he did not discuss this with his brothers from Team 6? From what I have read not to many people wearing the uniform have respect for our current leader.

It was reported by the author that a "small" amount of the proceeds would go to wounde SEALS and families of SEALS... Therefore, most of the profits will be shared by the author and the book company. NO movie producer has picked up the rights on this book...nor do I think they would. The biggest problem I have with the a@#$ that wrote it is that classified information is meant to be "classified" and our security in even the smallest way may have been breached. This man is not a patriot...he is a traitor to his oath. But then, oaths don't mean much when you get a book deal. What a sellout.

John,

How about all of the security leaks coming out of the White House? Seems like someone else is breaking some rules as well. I agree that he broke protocal but when the leader of our country is setting the example how can we be pissed for someone following in his footsteps?

I agree with you Irish 21. It seems to be okay for the Whitehouse to leak information but anybody else must keep their mouths shut. The leaked information was to help Obama win a 2nd term but that is NOT going to happen. Obama has to go...send him back to Chicago where he belongs!!!!!!

Irish 21: any member of the military who fails to respect the Commander in Chief is subject to discipline, up to and including court marshal and dishonorable discharge.

While the SEALs, including the THOUSANDS of individuals involved (including one Pakistani doctor currently in prison) did a fantastic job, the bottom line is that President Obama made it a priority and gave the order to go ahead.

JD in SD is right, active duty members do NOT talk, or right books, while they are still active members. Once you leave the service, go ahead, write your memoirs. During active duty, you put yourself and others at risk.

Oh well, maybe Owen can go work for Xe, the Republican party, Halliburton, or some other soulless mercenary group.

Liz,

I live in Chi-Town.....we dont want him back. He can back to Hawaii.

dirp,

I know the rules. Seems that this SEAL and the president dont.

What this article failed to mention is Fox News already disclose his name and information related to him.

I don't know what you're all freaking out about. Obama already talked about it, even had pictures drawn to illustrate where they landed in the compound, where they found Bin Laden,etc.....even has allowed the Hollywood people access to certain information so he could be painted as a hero....and just in time for the election. Seems Obama has already politicized it.

This is a guy who was THERE, whose life was on the line....

Seems Obama has already politicized it.

OMG! Everyone bitches and complains about "transparency" and "the people need to know" crap but as soon as the highest (I could care less if it's Repub or Demo) office in the nation (POTUS) does let "the people know" or shows some (not all) "transparency" you all start bitching about it. Damn it you do, damn if you don't. And as the highest ranking individual in the chain of command, the POTUS has to right to determine what is said, what isn't said, what's to be confidential, and what's not to be confidential. Crimmey, calling it a leak from the White House is like calling the WMD "discovery" in Iraq as a leak from the White House. You can't have it both ways.

Both (repubs & demos) need to get off their respective band wagons. This is about a sailor that published a book that still has/could have (since the book isn't released to the public, I can't confirm) classified material. This POSS (Piece of Sh!t Seal) did NOT submitt the book to the department of defense for clearance and is publishing it for one reason only $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Whatever his reasoning the bottom line is he's attempting to cash in on his service, and in the process he is likely going to put those still serving at greater risk. Nothing to admire about that. If he waited 10 years to write it, I might not have a problem with this book, but he didn't and I do.

What's the most ironic about this is that all you people bashing Obama for giving out some details. You'd be the same people bashing him if he didn't release details. You'd be saying it didn't really happen. You'd say we have a right to know.

Some people are just going to hate. Don't hate the player hate the game.

IRISH 21

"From what I have read not to many people wearing the uniform have respect for our current leader."

What, Fox news? I served in both wars clown, and your party line tripe draws my anger here. The VAST majority of us respect our COC regardless of party line. We respected Bush, even if we had doubts about why we were really over there. No matter what motives that guy had balls and acted swiftly when attacked. Whatever doubts the troops may or may not have regarding Obama I am sure in the 2 years I have been out the "people wearing uniform" have not degenerated into party line mouth breathing jackasses spouting bull@!$%# regarding things they know NOTHING about.

Some media outlets learned Owen’s real name and published it, sending him into hiding.

Media are the scum of the earth!

Mr. Vern -

Seal need only be capitalized when you mean it respectfully.

Kristian113

JS in SD- I don't understand how you criticize a man who wanted to give a true account of what happened

.......A "true" account could easily have been given in a 60 Minutes interview, it did not require a book people will pay good money to buy. I saw an interview with a former CIA operative about this issue who stated the difference in the accounts is both understandable and minimal and thought is was being overblown. He did question the advisability of providing other details on how the operation was conducted, and so do I. I think the only piece of information that is necessary for the general public to know is that @!$%# Bin Laden was killed. The nitty, gritty details add nothing of essential significance to the majority of us, they only serve to satisfy the hunger of inquiring minds, a PC term for nosey people.

Kornfed

Some media outlets learned Owen’s real name and published it, sending him into hiding.

Media are the scum of the earth!

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I read that Fox News was the first.

What's the most ironic about this is that all you people bashing Obama for giving out some details. You'd be the same people bashing him if he didn't release details. You'd be saying it didn't really happen. You'd say we have a right to know.

It doesnt matter...O'bama gave false details as it was. He said it was a kill or capture mission. It was purely kill on site. He said Osama was armed and shielded himself with one of his wives...false, he was unarmed and didnt turn out to shield himself at all with anything. Who knows what actually happened to the body. I refuse to believe we dumped it out at sea.

I read that Fox News was the first.

I question what you read lib. Prove it

Kornfed

I read that Fox News was the first.

I question what you read lib. Prove it

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First, I read your post, do you question that, maybe I should?

Second, I'm not a lib, but you are certainly a dumbass for insulting me that way (and yes, I may get suspended for this, but it will be worth it, it needed to be said).

Third, if you can handle it, there are related stories you can thread through from this one, you will find one titled: "Al-Qaida linked websites threaten ex-Navy SEAL turned author with 'destruction' " Following is a direct copy/paste from that article:

Fox News on Thursday identified the author of the book, which is titled "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden," as a 36-year-old former SEAL from Wrangell, Alaska. The Associated Press later said it had confirmed the author’s identity. (NBC News is not identifying the former SEAL.)

Now call up Karl Rove and see what you are expected to say next.

Kornfed

I read that Fox News was the first.

I question what you read lib. Prove it

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First, I read your post, do you question that, maybe I should?

Second, I'm not a lib, but you are certainly a nasty person for insulting me that way (I'm re-doing this in case the original gets removed, people can still see the answer to "prove it")

Third, if you can handle it, there are related stories you can thread through from this one, you will find one titled: "Al-Qaida linked websites threaten ex-Navy SEAL turned author with 'destruction' " Following is a direct copy/paste from that article:

Fox News on Thursday identified the author of the book, which is titled "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden," as a 36-year-old former SEAL from Wrangell, Alaska. The Associated Press later said it had confirmed the author’s identity. (NBC News is not identifying the former SEAL.)

Now call up Karl Rove and see what you are expected to say next.

Roadhouse Blues

First, I read your post, do you question that, maybe I should?

The information I provided was regurgitated from an earlier video right here on what is now NBC.

Second, I'm not a lib, but you are certainly a dumbass for insulting me that way (and yes, I may get suspended for this, but it will be worth it, it needed to be said).

Easy pal, I called you a lib because you attacked fox news. Thats usually a sign. I cant help it if lib is offensive to you. You can call me a conserv if you want, I'm not going to get nearly as pissy, or whip out the usual name calling.

Fox News on Thursday identified the author of the book, which is titled "No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama bin Laden," as a 36-year-old former SEAL from Wrangell, Alaska. The Associated Press later said it had confirmed the author's identity. (NBC News is not identifying the former SEAL.)

What is your source? If it is true, they are scum! See how easy that is?...additionally, I dont see a name, which would be giving his identity away.

The Associated Press later said it had confirmed the author's identity. (NBC News is not identifying the former SEAL.)

This is the part you failed to recognize I think.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/48834712/#48834712

Here is the video for you, let me know anything I conveniently left out.

This SEAL is no SEAL; he is a SQUEALer...a pig...a piece of bacon...ham...porkWhat proof do you have that Obama leaked anything?

Well Andy I guess you have no fear of ever having to say that to his face and see if he is a SEAL or not...lucky for you, coward. You are a fine example for your Party I will give you that.

Jamie the White House leaks sensitive information for political gain Senator Feistein said so. This is even worst.

The fact is that Bin Laden has to die because there was no way Obama will hold the pressure by the way he demand to handle a terrorist under his own rules. Read the Miranda rights, provide lawyers and take him to a Civil Court , it could be a political disaster for Obama he decide to go against the Obama /Holder principals.

I love all the anti war liberals coming out of the wood work on this one with all of their threats. You guys are just pissed because this SEAL is putting your idol obummber in a bad light. I will take the SEAL's side any day in the situation. He has actually defended our country and helps keep our freedoms alive, he is part of the reason we can sit here and argue for days on end about who is better. Please tell me what branch did Barry serve in again?

What MSNBC decided to leave out of their story is that the book is being viewed as political because the SEAL mentions he and his fellow soldiers disgust with Obama and how they knew that he would take credit for what they accomplished and use it to further his own re-election efforts.

Imagine being in a foreign land fighting to keep your country safe while back at home the president is busy suing your family members for wanting to enforce the U.S. border.

Pjam,

Exactly. They are also leaving out all of the former SEAL operators that can not stand Obama. The toughest soldiers in the world are our own SEALs you dont want to start using these guys as political footballs it might just come back to bite you.

Iris did you even READ the article? If you'd take your face out of your ass for a moment you'd see that the Seal specifically says this book is NOT about politics. It's not about putting anyone down. It's about 9/11...which occurred long before Obama was president. So if you're going to post something.... make sure there's some semblance of fact and reality to it....not just your obvious hatred and prejudice. It just makes you look ignorant and pathetic.

I agree with you 100%. If whoever leaked the information from the Obama administration is not charged as well then this SEAL should not be touched.

TZ,

Did you mean to Irish? If so I have no clue what you are talking about. What hate and prejudice am I showing? And yes I read the article a few days ago, not the edited MSN version.

Holy crap Irish, sounds like you are ready to suck some seal dick. Cool down there soldier.

JM,

Take that flag off from your screen, you dont deserve to have it next to your name. Maybe some commie Soviet flag would suit you better. Another person who is clueless as to what they actually do. What did I say to get you all fired up there, big shot? Oh I know......I talked bad about your false idol.

Irish

If you want some one's flag taken down YOU take it down. Start with mine. Good luck with that.

CSM USA (Retired)

BobW,

No issue with you as you can see I agreed with you several times. I have a problem with JM who thinks he can run his mouth. And I would easily take his flag down since he doesnt represent America.

What did I say to get you all fired up there, big shot?

Who's fired up? Ever see that Kibbles 'n Bits commercial where this little yapping dog keeps jumping over the bulldog? If the SEALs are the bulldog, guess which part you play?

About the flag: I guess in your cartoonish world, devoid of sublety and nuance, only @!$%#-kickin', country-music-listenin', church-goin',larry-the-cable-guy-lovin', rootinest, tootinest, bad asses get to love the flag? Grow the @!$%# up! One can have a dissenting opinion and still be a patriot. Did that blow your mind?

JM,

You seem to have some anger issues there, pal. Typical liberal. Funny you call me a redneck when I live in one of the largest cities in the country and have my entire life. Hate country music and Larry the lard. Swing and miss there. Never said people cant have a differing opinion but you seem to think you are some type of keyboard tough guy. I respect our country and the people who serve it. Should this SEAL have written the book? Probably not. Should our elected officials be flapping their gums talking about the exact same thing for their own political gains, no. Point being.....if you are going to bash one of then bash the other. Now go get your shine box.

Well politicians lie, big surprise. I mean, its not like any of them started wars based on lies of lets say... oh WMD's or something like that. Then I would be mad.

That said how do I know the seal is telling the whole truth here? I must admit by my opinion he is less likely to lie than someone with a political edge to gain from it (Obama) but I don't really know one way or another.

Furthermore, the excerpts I have seen from this book thus far are EXTREMELY political. Not sure what he is trying to pull, even considering its out of context.

That said how do I know the seal is telling the whole truth here

If he is saying lies , his brother in arms will say the truth, he is not the only SEAL in this operation. If you haven't read the book , base on what you make your statement. There is no doubt you are those kind of liberals that attack Bush for the war in Iraq but hide like cockroach, and do not say a word when 2000 soldiers died in Afghanistan under the Commander in Chief Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

Irish 21...

Not one of Mitt Romney's blood relatives, including his siblings, has EVER spent a day in Military service to our Country! NOT ONE!

...family of VETS

Republicans don't fight in wars, they just start wars.

sleuth23

Republicans don't fight in wars, they just start wars.

With all my respect , you are an ignorant that speak all over your mouth, the best thing you can do is shut-up.

Democrats start 16 wars

Republicans 10

I'll show you two.

World War II: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Democratic; Asked for declaration of war after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Germany and Italy declared war two days later.

Korean war (1950-54): Harry S. Truman, Democrat; North Korea, in violation of a UN treaty, invaded South Korea. Troops were sent to contain communism.

Please do your homework.

This may be taken down, but this guy WAS there during this offensive, and I, for one, laud him! Never EVER forget that our forefathers who composed our Constitution wrote in the clause that when our government STOPPED representing we, the people, we had the right and obligation to topple it. This serviceman has the privilege of writing what he wishes! He is a FORMER SEAL, and while it may be a very unpopular statement, as long as he does NOT compromise his fellow operatives, he DOES have right to speech under our amendment of free speech! May God Bless He AND his other operatives who carried out this mission!

THAT being said, I think the Middle East wants/needs democracy like a fish wants/needs a piano! As soon as all American presence is withdrawn, FOREVER, they will revert back to their feudal/religious wars and problems!

AMEN sweetie. Good post.

He openly criticizes the POTUS and VPOTUS in the book and demeans them both - it is political. I find something fascinating about Navy S.E.A.L.'s, that they think what they do is not political. Uh, yes it is. When your orders come from the Commander in Chief, the POTUS, a political figure, what you are doing is a political instrument of the United States. It's naive to think otherwise and he knows it. I like how one of the excerpts say "we respect the President for authorizing the mission" as if it is no big deal. The President authorized the invasion of a sovereign country to deliver justice to a wanted criminal. Regardless of how WE see it, Pakistan could easily see it as an act of war and they would be right under international law. See... politics.

I thought the book was not yet available. How do you know the contents?

Good point. Bin Laden should have destroyed the twin towers later in the year so the anniversary date would fall after the elections.

I'm sure the publishing company didn't push up the date because there is money to be made.

king

"Good point. Bin Laden should have destroyed the twin towers later in the year so the anniversary date would fall after the elections."

What ever else he was, bin Laden was not idiot. He knew exactly what he was doing in the timing of this-religiously, politically, and historically. As far as I am concerned there were only three people in the history of humans that change the course of history like this. Jesus (no matter what you say he changed BC to AD), Hitler, and bin Laden. Just sayin'.

@ King

As of yesterday, the 29th, the news networks were able to purchase a copy from the book stores. Capice?

Shame on obama then.

Not just shame on Obama but they outed him too!

tom

"the methods and means of the USA should not be revealed by those who took an oath to protect the USA and follow orders".

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

So why did Obama do it? He took an oath as well. And yes he has to take orders...from US. Why is it this SEAL is being chastised as a, squealer, compromiser of secrets, traitor, what ever, when his BOSS, The President Of The United States Of American, Commander And Chief Of Our Military, just walk away after doing the very same thing-FIRST!? The only difference I see is that when Obama told us, he LIED-according to the SEAL that had no reason to lie, he is not running for office.

I think we all need to ask these questions of our selves before NOV 6.

BobW,

I said the same thing. Obama did exactly what this SEAL is doing but his suppoters see no problem with that. He could have easily said that they got Bin Laden and left it at that, but he had to act all macho and reveal the Team that carried it out. If this book came out showing Obama is a positive light the libs would be jumping up and down with their copy in hand. The fact that this SEAL basically says in the book that Obama and Biden were jackasses when they met with them says alot.

Yeah....shame on Obama and his democrat croonies who also leaked information!!!!!!

Wait... so the same guy (Irish 21) who earlier throws a fit Obama was taking credit for the raid is now accusing him of leaking info by giving credit to the SEAL team?

And this folks, is why our country is in the @!$%#ter. DERP IMA VOTE MAH PARTY LINE AN DA OTHER PARTY IS TEH DEVIL!!!

Like "when did you stop beating your wife?"

What do you expect this swiftboater to say? The Koch boys paid for it and published by the same publisher as the swift boat book in 2004

Jeff - Thanks for proving eph521 to be 100% correct.

Read his book before you take his word for it. Just because you say your not trying to be political does not make it true. The publisher is a very damning piece of evidence to the contrary, if not some of the released quotes. Then throw in this guy is essentially a shill to begin with for even penning something like this.... and yeah I'm not buying it as an independent.

Not that MSNBC would mention it to the mindless sheep, but the book gives soldiers real view of Obama and it is like most Americans view; awful.

It is considered political because it doesn't paint Oblamer in a good light. If he credited our glorious 'leader' with his brave actions, then this book would be trumpeted as factual evidence of Oblamer's greatness.

Oblamer has already leaked out more information, took bows in public for his kill mission (btw, Bush would have been called a war criminal for ordering a kill mission), gave tours to 'friendly' Hollywood producers so they make a promotional movie about the entire event.

Because the book is accurate and doesn't look good for Oblamer doesn't mean it is political. Maybe he is just trying to get the story straight before Hollywood lies about it.

Bush did order a kill mission... on Iraq. He is a war criminal as far as I am concerned. But so was Saddam, guess that kinda nullifies everything on a karma scale.

But those "Oblamer" lines are really witty. Keep it up and you may end up in congress yourself.

then O should be court marshaled and thrown in jail for high treason for the leaks that came out of his criminal administration!

Obviously you are NOT Smarter than a Fifth Grader. Its courts martial. SEALs are Navy there are not any corporals, sergeants, or privates in the NAVY.

Anymore of your ignorance you wish to display here?

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You must be so proud of him breaking the code as he has.

He must be above the navy equivalent of corporal because it is a fact that army corporals who pull stunts like this do get to face a courts martial.

You took the bait beautifully.

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pamericanvet,

Obviously you are NOT Smarter than a Fifth Grader. Its court-martial ...NOT courtS martial (it's one trial, not many/pural)

Anymore of your ignorance you wish to display here?

With all the bickering (which makes you all sound like 5th graders) aside, using common sense, the commitment, time and training involved to be a member of an active SEAL team on such a mission the person would most assuredly have obtained a higher rank than Corporal(E4) or a Petty Officer - 3rd Class(E4). The LOWEST rank I ever knew of myself while with the Rangers was Staff Sargent(E6), D-Force (which some say are comparable to SEALS, I do not want to get into that argument:), were usually higher than that. Just sayin'

Bob you're correct. I know most SF are E-7 and higher and would expect the SEALS to be the same.

BTW - SFC, MI (early retirement, 16yrs, after Desert Storm)

So it's everyone's prerogative whether or not to violate the code? How about following orders? What's this "I kind of don't" crap? Like I kind of don't think you're a moron.

When you try to insult someone, don't start a sentence with the word "like." It takes away from any credibility that you may have had.

In regards to what I said, I do understand the importance of national security. Exactly what are we securing in this case? What is it in this book that is so sensitive? Show me how giving out mission details is a threat to national security. We left parts of a STEALTH HELICOPTER behind! If he wrote about that I would understand the concern, but he didn't have to write about it because the biggest secret was left behind for everyone to photograph!

your president thinks you're THAT stupid!

If you're a woman and voting for Romney/Ryan, you are THAT stupid indeed.

Dotties girl, you might want to tone down your Anti-Obama rhetoric until you bother checking facts: The author does NO favors with his statements about POTUS and VPOTUS. In fact he almost slams them. So how is this being helpful to Obama? Oh wait, other than the fact that the job got done under his watch? Check. If it had been done under Bushes watch the praise would still be the same. Get over that fact that it just happened to be (not because of) under Obamas watch.
Hate if you want but show facts before spouting off.

RANDOO

If it had not been for Hillary Clinton the SEALs would not gave received authorization to conduct the raid. Obama, indecisive as always, kept changing his mind because Valerie Jarret did not think it was a good idea. Maybe if the DNC could have elected a true leader like Hillary Clinton we would not be stuck in the situation we are now.

As I recall, just a few months after 9/11, and losing bin Laden in Tora Bora, W said he doesn't think too much about him. By then W was hatching plans to invade Iraq anyway so he couldn't get all confused trying to think of too many things all at the same time.

Its called setting the record straight and what the military does is not political it is called following lawful orders though they might have political motives from politicians; ie having classified material leaked to make someone or you look better. These sailors might not like why the mission is being carried out but they execute if it is a lawful order.

By the way it sickens me that some of these post are talking about following "code" when most of you have never served! If your going to talk about the military and their values, code, and etc at least have the common courtesy to tell us if you have even served!! I will respect your post alot more.

Oh by the way I have served and continue to serve!!

So I guess Obama calling Former President Bush directly from the situation room (after it was over) means nothing right Vet?

Amazing peoples sheer hatred of Obama blinds them from the real truth.

Good for him glad he did it, but doesnt pertain to my post. So I am guessing you havent served??

I'm not sure about the right extreme. Don't get me wrong, both extremes are horrible morons that do NOTHING for the country. Having said that tho, are they more angry that Obama is a democrat or that he is black? I mean I know for many that is a double wammy but they are usually to stupid to even make it to the voting booth and once there can't read enough to vote right anyhow.

Obama, indecisive as always, kept changing his mind

WRONG, HE WAITED UNTIL ALL THE FACTS AND OPINIONS WERE IN, THEN MADE THE DECISION..

AND, THE IDEA FOR AN EXTRA CHOPPER WAS HIS.....

Maybe because people wanted to know the truth and not the glamorized liberal obama version?

What exactly is the glamorized liberal version?

I'm so sick of vapid claims but never actual quotes.

Regal us, sir with the litany of lies so we may all be in on the joke...

Righites simply ignore the fact that OBL was taken care of during Obama's Administration. If he had been taken during a republicant's administration, it would be plastered all over the American Media as HUGE Triumph. Typical hypocrisy of the GOP. Right Vet

Jeff S - "What exactly is the glamorized liberal version?"

Why don't you just google the old MSNBC propaganda articles if you can't remember? Are you really that lazy?

Your right it would have been blasted all over Fox News that he did the right thing as Obama did, but if there were the discrepancies that this book is talking about you bet your A$$ it would be all over MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS impaling Bush. Am I RIGHT OR WRONG, do you think those same networks will do that to Obama?!?! I will answer that for you.....NOPE!

Maybe Obama will play Bin Laden in the movie!!!!!!!

Facts please. What discrepancies?

Liz, you should be ashamed of yourself, but then again, someone as ignorant as yourself wouldn't know any better...

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Anyone know what the price of goat's milk is in Tibet these days??

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In what size container and in dollars or yuans?

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In yuan.

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Oh how ignorant of you! Don't you understand that economy and jobs can only be fixed by banning abortion! *Makes smartass face* Ban abortions, make all people go to church and you will see everything will be fixed by God. Hooray to awesome economists in GOP!

No it isnt about abortion or voter ID it is about JOBS and the lack of leadership!

It's about lack of agreement on how to "create" jobs. Since when does a president create jobs, and how had POTUS prevented job creation. Facts please.

Normally by urging congress to pass various tax credits and subsidies to industries you want to expand. Sadly there has been no compromise in congress and all the subsidies go to Oil and others that can afford lobbyist because they are not making enough right?

But by himself he can do nothing more than sign or not sign what is put in front of him.

My only real beef with Obama as an independent is how ineffective he was the first 2 years with democratic majority. True, he did not have the super, but you telling me the Dems couldn't flip 5 republicans by little compromises? You passed healthcare, good work its about time America steps up with the rest of the civilized world. But you had dissenters in your own party holding out for their share of the pork stuffed in that god awefull piece of legislation. Meanwhile the fallout from Republican welfare for the rich policies and free wars + lower taxes was still eroding the country.

Not saying the Repubs are in the clear. They have been outrageously obstructionist for the spite of it. Then throw in the oaths they took to a MAN that holds no real office. YOUR OATH IS TO THESE UNITED STATES YOU PIECES OF @!$%#, NOT SOME LOBBYIST!!!

Bravo Joe32!!

My only real beef with Obama as an independent is how ineffective he was the first 2 years with democratic majority.

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JOE, Obama DID NOT HAVE a super majority for 2 years, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

IN FACT only 134 days, AND NOT IN A ROW

The Democrats’ 134-Day Supermajority

December 31, 2010
By PoliPundit

http://polipundit.com/?p=28927

As long as it wasnt classified information he is a free citizen and can do what he wants. Figures you would want to take away his 1st amendment rights that shine a poor light on your President!

How is that info not classified tho? Seems like it would be. At least all these blast mouths claiming Obama leaked classified info lead me to believe such.

JLVTAV: I asked the questions, I did not make blind accusations like you suggested. How about responding with some thought to my questions? Are you saying a Navy SEAL wouldn't have any type of clearance? The mission was a secret until it was well under way or completed; sounds like something that would be treated as classified information. How about you wait a few days and see what the Pentagon does before accusing me of trying to deny somebody their 1st Amendment rights.

What lies??

You're Fox News is showing!

Facts please. What lies? Innuendo much?

Which discussion, exactly, is ended by your pithy summation? The one about the Bin Laden, about the book, about Obama...? I don't want to comment on a subject that you have officially closed.

The pissing contest between "He said vs. He said."

Who cares about anything else in this subject except that Osama Bin Lauden is dead.

Quite a few people, it would seem. If you don't want to follow the exchange, hit "Esc.". But pardon the rest of us for having an interest.

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Aren't we so proud !!

Instead of capturing him to glean intelligence, we shoot an unarmed man for political gain.

How sleazy can we get ??

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If Bush did it you would be pissing your red pants in glee

Hey nothing new, your teabag is showing. As you may recall, they spent 2 seconds killing that scumbag and 40 minutes collecting intel.

Thanks you JM

Capturing him for evidence? You really think he would have talked? Hilarious. Torture is proven ineffective even if they decided to skirt the law and try it. People say whatever you want to hear after a while true or not.

The part about him taking his wifes hostage and all the porn... seems like a lie to me. Obviously just to make him look like a bitch to the other arabs (thus maybe they not join the taliban).Not that I am about to take this guys word for what happened as truth either. His credibility is zero in my eyes based on what he has written in that book and then claiming its not political, the fact that he is even writing a book, the timing of this book, as well as the publisher of the book. Likely somewhere between what we were told by the gov and what he is telling us now.

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Shame on you.

"Proudamericanveteran " will be really disgusted with you. He's proud of the guy.

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Nonsense TKJ this is a MADE UP FOR TV STORY that is being brought into back door of America Politics for POMPUS Obama Does Not Dare to Bring This Fantasey In Through The Front Door!

Psst Normal Americans detest taking it in the Back Door and most don't & won't believe this Nonsense unless They SHOW US THE BODY!!

Barry Bush-wacker signed the Parrot Act Extension and the NDAA with its legalization of Indefinite Detention of American Citizens along with his POMPUP A$$ Assumption of the Power To Assassinate American Citizens and his Secret Support Of Al-Qaeda In Syria & Libya......

Barry's Magical Seals..... just one more reason to Refuse To Re-Elect ANY Corporate Banksters Sponsored Incumbents be they DemoRATS or RepubloRATS and especially not THEIR KingRAT I Don't need No Stinking NOBODY Obama!

Exactley what law has he broken or what story hasnt been already told by Biden or Obama. Since you or anyone hasnt read the book I am sure you cannot answer that. Just because it looks poorly on your dear leader you spew that kind of nonsense!

Don't know JLVTAV - care to provide some facts? Innuendo much?

If nothing else the timing is extremely suspect. Still, meh.

"can never be verified because we can never be allowed to know who he is"

Perhaps you missed the part where they found out who he was and published his name.

A "for-profit" book? OMG - what a peice of crap he must be, who else would write a book for money?...

"The President’s hefty book royalties from “The Audacity of Hope” and “Dreams From My Father,” ...In 2009, Obama’s book sales peaked and he grossed nearly $5.7 million, according to his income tax statement; by 2010"

Nothing like ignorant, hypocrite, liberals.

I find the ignorant, hypocrite, conservatives to be just like the ignorant, hypocrite, liberals. Both are incapable of personal thoughts and just sling @!$%# at each other like monkeys.

2 party system for the birds.

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Rank has its privileges.

Somebody has to be the scapegoat.

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I'm currently writing a book of poetry for the terminally dislexic send me your credit card number since you obviously are a discriminating reader...

"pathetic and wrong and shameful and vacuous and stupid".

Yeah, that's rabid, alright.

Yes actually it is...

Tea party scares me. A lot. That's a fact.

You said it best!

To: Rich69

What classified details are you talking about, you mean the ones that were leaked to the media from somone in the adminstration? If classified details are left out and it is in general terms and the light is shown on politics of trying to make the president look better I am all for it. And by you saying you have secrets and a clearance makes you a security risk so keep your mouth shut.

Dang JLTAV - what classified information was leaked by POTUS? Can't be just a tiny bit specific? Or is innuendo your game?

Never talk about fight club.

Didn't Anthony Weiner and Bill Clinton pretty much prove what Democrat politicians think of women?

Yes pjam, all Democrat politicians are the same.

The GOP should stop hanging around dark public bathrooms and looking at men below the belt. Most of them get a woody thinking about other men.

Lot of intelligence shown there JB