President Obama orders VA to expand suicide prevention services

President Obama issued an executive order Friday tasking the Department of Veterans Affairs to expand its suicide prevention and mental health services.

Under the order, VA is expected to increase its veteran crisis line by 50 percent by the end of the year; ensure that a veteran in distress is given access to a trained mental health worker in 24 hours or less; and launch a national 12-month suicide prevention campaign to educate veterans about available mental health services.


The order reinforces some initiatives that VA has already undertaken.

 

In April, VA announced that it would hire 1,600 mental health clinicians to meet surging demand, and the order instructs the agency to use loan repayment programs and scholarships, among other strategies, to recruit those professionals by June 2013.

The order also asks VA to create at least 15 pilot projects in partnership with the Department of Health and Human Services to address unfilled mental health staff vacancies and long wait times. The pilots, to be created within 180 days, will test the effectiveness of partnerships with community and rural health clinics as well as substance abuse treatment centers. 

Related: Military hopes antidepressant nasal spray will prevent suicides

Previous estimates have indicated that at least 6,000 veterans died by suicide annually in recent years; data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that about 18 veteran suicides occur daily.

VA Secretary Eric K. Shinseki praised the order in a statement released Friday morning, saying that the agency would work to implement its requirements immediately.

"History shows that the costs of war will continue to grow for a decade or more after the wars have ended," Shinseki said. "The mental health and well-being of our brave men and women who have served the Nation is the highest priority for the Department of Veterans Affairs."

Related: Monthly Army suicides reach all-time high in July

The order targets not only immediate concerns about mental health care staffing and suicide prevention measures, but also long-term goals in understanding the science behind combat-related psychological wounds like post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and traumatic brain injury (TBI). Along with the Department of Defense and other federal agencies, VA is directed to develop a research plan that includes efforts to better diagnose and treat PTSD and TBI.

The president delivered the order Friday as part of his visit to Fort Bliss in Texas, which marks the two-year anniversary of the end of combat operations in Iraq. He addressed troops at the Army post and held a roundtable discussion with service members and their families.

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Comment author avatargreatminds2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The suicide rate is way up because more and more of them are starting to realize who their commander in chief is.

  • 20 votes
#1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarWillardsEtchASketchExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yeah having voMITT as President would spark suicide for many.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

I'm sure being in a war with very long and intense deployments has nothing to do with it, returning home and having difficulty finding employment has nothing to do with it either, they aren't troubled it's just a political protest, right? Have you no respect?

  • 26 votes
#1.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

What an absolutely vile statement! You obviously have no respect for our armed forces and what a serious problem this is, you ignorant political hack! Shame on you!

  • 26 votes
#1.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

Having been around familiy members returning from war I think it is really fear of change and the future. The past has some negatives which they used as an excuse for depression but the deep down anxiety was "now what"? When I call into the VA for to set hospital appointments you get a suicide message if you are put on hold. Call this number, ect if you feel like hurting yourself. Very spooky the first time you hear it.

I wish all the Vets well and think President Obama is being very proactive to give needed assistance. It is very sad for the lame political party comments above good Americans. What a joke some people are and just shallow brainwashed hateful.......

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

greatminds, you're an idiot. Have a little respect for the men and women who fought for our country and came back needing help.

  • 18 votes
#1.5 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

My son who has PTSD and TBI as well as other injuries would like to offer you a suicidal experience for your comment. MORON!!!

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

absolutely insance comment! you are worthless....maybe it is people like you "greatminds" that are what is really WRONG with Our Country! Total Idiots! As a Immensely Proud United States Marine...I could PUNCH YOU RIGHT IN YOUR MOUTH!

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

It's not the commander in chief as much as the current congress. Maybe if you, and others, paid more attention, you would see what is happening. Instead you listen to lies and spit them out. How many bills, that were supposed to help our nation, did they reject or filibuster to death? Lots.

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

Stephace, very true but people like to "vote for the big one" and pay no attention to Congress. Their combined record and performance rated the current Congress lower than any in history.

When you vote for your next Congressional Representative try the other person to see what happens with a new deck of cards.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

greatminds2012

The suicide rate is way up because more and more of them are starting to realize who their commander in chief is.

Hey, that's really funny "greatminds" (your handle is even funnier). I'll bet you taught your kids how funny it is to pull the wings off of butterflies and watch them flop around.

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

Let's leave political sniping out of this and just applaud the President for recognizing the problem and taking steps to help. I would be happy if a Republican had done this as well. This has been a long time coming and the length of time that our returning troops have to wait to get counseling is abysmal! I know a young man who came home from the Gulf War who committed suicide and it was connected to the war. I have a brother-in-law who served two tours in Viet Nam who suffers from PTSD who is just now getting help. I have another friend with the same problem. These men put their lives on the line for their country and get treated like crap when they come home. Shame on us and yay for the President.

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

Typical Republican response. TYPICAL REPUBLICAN.

Don't respect soldiers and their sacrifice... no, use a horrible reality to attack the President.

TYPICAL REPUBLICAN.

Why don't you just start mocking and "boo'ing" these soldiers, as well? We ALL saw you do that to the soldier at the GOP debate. We all saw how you treat soldiers.

Keep it up, Republicans. We love seeing your TRUE COLORS.

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

You would think Obama would "order" something be done about all the murders in his hometown of Chicago.

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

No-More-For-44

You would think Obama would "order" something be done about all the murders in his hometown of Chicago.

Let's see...what does a President have to say about local law enforcement? Oh, that's right...nothing. How stupid can you get?

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

Let's see, he can issue an executive order to cover up murders and protect himself AND his AG though...

Hmmm...how's that for law enforcement.... D'oh !!!

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

No-More-For-44

By God I was right, you were able to get more stupid!

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarsotiredofobomboExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Really????? Now you are going for the retired vets with PTSD and think about suicide????? You are nothing but an imbecile, ignorant, black POS.

Here's an idea....why don't you do something about the troops that are being ambushed and killed by the Afigan pigs they are training?

You will go down in history as the first black, and stupidest village idiot in history. You even took whitey Jimmy Carters seat! Congratulations for setting the black race back just about after they were released from slavery. Hope that brain clot hits your brain....tonight.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

@willardsetchhisbrain...do us a favor...commit suicide in the place of one of our soldiers...let him get the help needed instead of tax money wasted on you and your inbred hillbilly family.

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

President Obama orders VA to expand suicide prevention services...

due to His epic failure of an economy...

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

@seventoseven....really???? "The past has some negatives which they used as an excuse for depression". Wish you were over there fighting and storing up some negative excuses you could use for depession. POS

    #1.20 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

    HA....Obama never saw a dime that couldn't be spent twice.

    • 4 votes
    #1.21 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

    People don't realize that Blowbama is doing this in an election year. For the past 4 years, he hasn't given a sh*t about our veterans OR our soldiers. He has never been in active service, duty, reserves or otherwise. He took all the credit for the "supposed" killing of Obama...oops, I mean Osama Bin Laden and this is just another lame attempt atr pandering to our military heroesm, all the while cutting the armed forces budget to the very bone, under the table. You Libtards are so sure of your messiah, lord Blowbama that he can do ko wrong. You hold your fast hfood restaurants (aka Chick-fil-a) to a higher moral standard than your socalled president. You turn the other (a$$ ) cheek to all his lies, slander and prevarication and absolute libelous character assassination, and his shameless, classless pandering to every special interset group who will buy his vote. Your savior will soon know a REAL housing crisis when he realizes he won't have one come November. Sheeples. It boggles how ignorant, uneduacated and uninformed you libbys truly are...

    • 1 vote
    #1.22 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

    Totally agree Witesoxfan. He has almost four years to be concerned about our returning soldiers and nada. With this an election year, this executive order does not surprise me at all.

    For all of you who want to yell or call me a t-bagger, my husband has done two tours and if he needed any extra help through VA, it would have been expensive and not all of those health professionals are all that good.

    This really has nothing to do with democrat or republican, just that as a President, you would think that he would WANT our vets healthcare (mentally and physically) needs be taken care of without having to fight for it.

      #1.23 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:57 PM EDT
      Reply

      theyre waking up to what theyre really fighting for.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

      unfortunately you. you should be over in afganistan waiting to get your head blown off by your so-called comrade that you are training to kill. obombo is a fool and an embarrasement to the United States. And why is it that every time I get on MSN I have to look at his monkey wife's face telling us to let them know we are "in it for them". I hope you die before election, so no, I'm not in for you or your family of chimps. you have insulted black people for 4 years. No more. I'm willing to give Mitt a chance, you...I'm sick of your voice, your gestures and your Dumbo ears and blue lips and most of all your glaring stupidity every time you open your mouth. Just shut the fluck up. glad you are leaving

      • 8 votes
      #3.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

      For sure I wonder if George Bush or amy pf his cronies are on suicide watch? especially since they should have seen the light by now... I doubt it, they are sipping cocktails having a great Labor Day Weekend (which they probably really dont believe in but its a good excuse to pary ) and having fun reminising about thier days of glory when they finnished this mess for Daddy Bush Oh Yea!!! those boys are just cannon fodder to them

      • 1 vote
      #3.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
      Reply

      Day late and a dollar short Obozo.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

      Must be awfully easy for you to connect Veterans Suicides to President Obama? huh.....cheapshot artist no doubt! But it is painfully easy to see you have never served in any capacity Protecting Our Country's Political System and Way of Life...huh! You are just one of the Million Morons in this Country looking for attention because your Inferiortiy Complex..."day late and dollar short" was your father who never gave you the proper attention. I hope you Stay Lost....forever!

      • 6 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

      Want The Truth From Politicans

      Day late and a dollar short Obozo.

      Perhaps you should start telling it yourself first. President Obama has done considerably more for military members, their families and veterans than the man who sent them to war in the first place. To the best of my knowledge (I've been a veteran for 40 years and work with veterans), the only thing that Bush did for veterans was to remove category 8 veterans from VA health care elegibility...not much of a benefit!

      • 8 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

      Sorry 'ol_doc', but your ignorance is showing. The Veterans Eligibility Reform Act of 1996 was what established the criteria for eligibility or ineligibility. It provides for the Secretary of Dept of Veterans Affairs to certify to congress, annually, what categories of veterans we can afford to treat. Mr Shinseki has had ample time to expand it.

      • 4 votes
      #4.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

      Medic5 - My ignorance?

      Jan 17, 2003 - 164,000 veterans effected by closing Category 8. Please note the date.

      • 5 votes
      #4.4 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

      @Ol-Doc...anyone who has to reach back 4 years to blame the current state of our country on Bush...you still have your hand out for that welfare check and if obombo loses, which he is guaranteed to do, you might have to get a job. stop sucking the welfare teat.

      Also, please, please do not act like you know any part of Veterans Affairs and their rules and regulations. You are a loser, never served, and if you were asked, you hid under your mammy's apron.

      • 4 votes
      #4.5 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

      Amen....Obozo has used up all, if any of his brains for politics. He is an ignorant black doofus, I don't care where he went to college and what his iffy political career has been. I just know that now he is a miserable, embarassing Uncle Tom failure

      • 2 votes
      #4.6 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

      Hey Jaguar 09 when my son was deployed I'm 100% sure it wasn't to protect the AMERICAN POLITCIAL SYSTEM. He couldn't give a rats behind. Next time he's are deployed tag along with him and tell him why you are there.

      It is about time that we take of these guys. Unless Obama is willing to send money with the order it is not worth the paper it is wrtten on.

      • 2 votes
      #4.7 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

      Wow, "sotiredofobombo". I didn't realize the trailer park had internet access, or was capable of commenting on the internet.

      Now its naive to think people disagree with Obama solely because of his race, but you are the prime example of workplace uneducated talk about things you don't understand. Ol_Doc points out that indeed, Obama has passed more legislation than the previous administration in supporting veterans, and when he highlights the fact that Bush did remove category 8 you attack him for bringing up the past?

      You sir are a beacon of stupidity.

      • 3 votes
      #4.8 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:38 AM EDT

      Ignotis

      You sir are a beacon of stupidity.

      Oops, your ignorance is showing.

        #4.9 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:28 AM EDT

        He is an ignorant black doofus, ...

        Thank you for revealing why you really have a problem with the president. Some people just can't stand that we have a black president.

        • 5 votes
        #4.10 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

        Or: is it that they can't stand that a Man who is only 50% White has 10 times the smarts/ intellect they have?

        To address this issue however: The reason there are 16 suicides per day (according to at least one source I've seen) among wounded Veterans is the "cocktail" of 4 psychotropic drugs they have been handed by the DOD/ VA doctors. Nobody seems to point out to them that on all four of those packages, the FDA puts a "black box" warning for increased possibility of SUICIDE. Think about it! Let them off themselves ( since they didn't have the good sense to die with honor on the battlefield like a good soldier is expected to do) so they are then "off the books" . No more expensive therapies and long term care. Put them 6 feet under where they are in nobodys way.....That's "business" as usual. The corpse of a soldier ( according to the Generals,,, who die quite rarely in the battlefield....) is a thing of pride. With a mind set like that, what on earth would you expect to be the outcome?

        There is a therapy, that is expensive, in terms of time but effective and DOD rejects it out of hand. I think those kick backs the Pharmaceutical companies are handing out( yes, I used to be an advisor to the SG of Army, Air Force and navy) go a L O N G way in keeping our wounded warriors on these meds..... get them coming and going! Yet another rip off, yet another scandal from the Pentagon. That place needs to be swept clean of all that 18th century idea of war ( which has proved itself inadequate at best, since Viet Nam) and make an Army with a B R A I N, not run by booze hounds, but by sober, thinking men, who value the lives of every soldier under their direction. Check out: www. HBOT.com

          #4.11 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:03 PM EDT
          Reply

          Veteran or not, knowing first hand what it's like to have a family member commit suicide is on of the worst possible feelings ever. I think these first initial comments are awful. In my opinion, suicide is a selfish act where the person committing the act isn't thinking about the long term effects their action is going to have on those closest to them.

          Suicide is a permanent result for a hopefully temporary problem. And I wish that people would recognize warning signs and help their loved one get the help that they deserve, or better yet that the person feeling suicidal will seek the help themselves.

          I really hope that this expansion helps!

          • 14 votes
          Reply#5 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

          Well said! I am sorry for your loss.

          • 4 votes
          #5.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

          What if the problem isn't temporary? What if the victim considers the relief of their affliction to outweigh the subsequent grief of their loved ones? I'm sorry for your loss as well, but I hope if I happen to ever reach that point my family will respect my decision. I agree with President Obama and hope much more can be done to prevent suicide, but suiciders in general should be treated with more dignity than to be branded as selfish.

          • 3 votes
          #5.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

          bio- suiciders ARE selfish! My grandfather committed suicide BEFORE I was born so I never got to know him.....he died of self inflicted gunshot wounds....so yes he was selfish

          • 1 vote
          #5.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

          A little late, but I guess he's trying to get votes and make promises he's not going to keep.

            #5.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

            Sheryl...your grandfather is dead and you're thinking about yourself. Ironic to call him selfish.

            suzanne...WTF are you talking about?

              #5.5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

              A little late, but I guess he's trying to get votes and make promises he's not going to keep.

              Suzanne are you talking about the current Speaker of the House that said after midterms more jobs would be created under him once the Republicans took control of the House?!?

                #5.6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:50 PM EDT
                Reply

                A day late and a dollar short? How about the war in Iraq? You know the one because of WMD's, the one that would be over in a matter of weeks, maybe months, you know Iraq where we were greeted as liberators, with flowers and thank-you's you know the hero's welcome!

                The war where our President sent men and women into battle without proper vest's and materials, who cherry picked data, who claimed another attack, and mushroom clouds if Bush didn't get reelected!

                Mission Accomplished!!!! Wow, lot's of comatose people during the Bush Adm.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#6 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
                Wilbert123Deleted

                El Obozo waits till 67 days before the election to pronounce a 'solution' to the suicide problems of our troops - which have been going on for 3.6 years under his watch.

                Wake up!!! This is nothing more than political. And, you obviously are no friend of boots on the ground.

                • 2 votes
                #6.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

                Yes Wilbert123, what you say is true,,, too bad we were not able to RID the Congress of all his Repub buddies, who think just like "OUR BURNING BUSH" president did/ does and make this war/ disaster drag on, in spite of President Obama's efforts. Perhaps you will vote in a Democrat for your congressional district when that election comes up, or do a 'recall' campaign, starting Monday. If you really want the mess in the M E to end.

                Your friend Nitt sure doesn't want such a lucrative operation shut down... The kick backs are just too tempting... Or are you one of those senior officers who believes it's a good and honorable thing for young men to die for Big Business,,,, it is so good for the economy, after all....

                • 1 vote
                #6.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

                Parrot much, et220? Same old bullsh*t feckless rabble from a bunch of libtards who have nothing to back them up and a FAILED president with no record to run on. Defend his record. I dare you.

                  #6.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:37 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  After reading the article I said to myself that as much as this is the right thing to do and no one can argue that... somehow the right-wing nut-jobs would find a way to spin this as a negative thing against the president. Sure enough... he could announce that he just found a way to cure cancer or end world hunger without costing the taxpayer a dime and they would find some way. Unbelievable.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#7 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:06 PM EDT
                  Wilbert123Deleted

                  Thank you for thinking of that!

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:51 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Another Example of Governing by Decree, this is not the Act of a Leader, this is the Act of a Showman, The Campaigner in Chief. Re-Election at Any Price and It Doesn't Matter Who Has To Pay It. Mostly the Taxpayer.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#8 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                  Regardless of your political leaning or why the president is doing this now instead of before, at least it is being done. The message can still be correct if the messenger is not. I hope the VA is able to get this expansion enacted and help save the lives of our brave sons and daughters.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#9 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

                  This additional coverage is likely very needed for our veterans who put themselves in harms way to protect us an our nation!

                  That said, this is a scary thing and likely not much more than an obvious attempt by President Obama to make political points. After all, he NEEDS some military vote as most veterans don't have much respect for him. Didn't President Obama tell us that the federal government would never get involved with making medical decision for our citizens? Under ObamaCare this promises to get much worse... BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#10 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                  you are stupid too Rick....THIS IS NOT POLITICAL. this phenom has been goin on for the last few years....and dude its SAD....young beautiful vibrant men...killing themselves and destroying their families emotionally and all you SEE...is President Obama trying to get the "military vote"? The Veterans Affairs has not been able to keep up with this 'RAGE' and everything that should be getting done for My Brothers, are not being done....Period. Many Families across this Nation are experienceing this "Tragedy" and I am sure that most Have Asked for HELP! President Obama did what He did simply because it is the Next Right Thing To Do! HELP THESE VETERANS WHO ARE AT RISK! you, and many others just like you would leave them in the exactly where some are today! Totally Lost!

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                  By the Border

                  Another Example of Governing by Decree, this is not the Act of a Leader, this is the Act of a Showman, The Campaigner in Chief. Re-Election at Any Price and It Doesn't Matter Who Has To Pay It. Mostly the Taxpayer.

                  Why is it that those who claim to believe in the Constitution know nothing about it or how their own government works. An Executive Order issued by a sitting president is not only Constitutional is is essential. No Executive Orders = no mid-course corrections = we all watch the country roll off the cliff. You sir are an idiot.

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                  Rick-868962

                  That said, this is a scary thing and likely not much more than an obvious attempt by President Obama to make political points. After all, he NEEDS some military vote as most veterans don't have much respect for him. Didn't President Obama tell us that the federal government would never get involved with making medical decision for our citizens? Under ObamaCare this promises to get much worse... BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!

                  President Bush executed 62 Executive Orders and none of them were as beneficial to service members or veterans...NONE OF THEM!

                  Please explain to us what is contained in the Executive Order that constitutes a "medical decision". I have never see so much vitriol expressed toward a President who is trying to do the right thing for our service members and veterans. You are the most pathetic excuse for an American I have ever seen.

                  • 4 votes
                  #10.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:08 PM EDT
                  Wilbert123Deleted

                  NOWHERE in the Constitution is there anything that provides for Executive Orders.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.5 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

                  @Ol Doc

                  Why is it that those who claim to believe in the Constitution know nothing about it or how their own government works. An Executive Order issued by a sitting president is not only Constitutional is is essential. No Executive Orders = no mid-course corrections = we all watch the country roll off the cliff.

                  Where in the constitution is the term Executive Order? The term is not mentioned in the US Constitution. The Executive Orders have been going since 1789. In those days congress could defund a program or order. Since 1983 it has become more difficult over turn an EO since congress now has to pass a law which the president would veto and then congress would need a 2/3 vote to over turn. That is virtually impossible.

                  In this case, I don't think anybody in congress would not agree that we need to give our veternans any help they need. Better late than never.

                    #10.6 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:19 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    ABSOLUTELY INSANE COMMENTS! These guys have seen HORROR AT ITS FINEST! even if they werent even exposed to direct combat fire....TRY LIVING EACH DAY OF YOUR LITTLE SORRY LIFE TOTALLY AFRAID! for some of you its a JOKE! IT IS NOT A JOKE! as a UNITED STATES MARINE......I AM DISGUSTED BY SOME who call themselves AMERICAN....greatminds 2012...u are PUKE! and Im willing to Bet you never raised your Hand and Solemnly Swore to Uphold The Constitution against Enemies both Foregin and Domestic"{ did you? but you think you can Make a Comment about Guys blowing their brains out because of Barrack Obama? You are the worst of an American....i wish you and yours nothing but problems depression drama storms and mental darkness...so that you can experience what My Fellow Service Members, Army Air Force, Navy experience daily!

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#11 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                    Thank you for your service jaguar 09.

                    It is astounding that so many $&*+ starters have forgotten that you all volunteered for service to your country. Most likely the pukes that are making derogatory comments about not supporting our servicemen have benefited from you all's services. Now it is time for the back end supports to be paid to you and they are reneging on doing their part for this country. These pukes are the party of "me" and not about our country.

                    Hang in there jaguar 09. There are more of us out here that appreciate you. Thank you.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:31 PM EDT
                    Wilbert123Deleted
                    Reply

                    Oh great, there goes obummer wasting more hard earned tax money on those stupid entitlement programs for bums who won't get a job...

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#12 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                    JonSmith93903

                    Oh great, there goes obummer wasting more hard earned tax money on those stupid entitlement programs for bums who won't get a job...

                    Sarcasm I'm assuming? If not, I hope some of them visit you to demonstrate what they are very, very good at.

                      #12.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                      I'm with you Ol Doc and first in line to hand out "some wall to wall counseling"...LOL

                      Air Force Vet

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Is this merely another OBAMAMAMA SCAM to garner another few votes? Is it available to all veterans as well, including the depressed senior, unemployed, homeless vets who were first denied their pensions and then denied benefits because they happened to be over 60?

                      As many Americans have noted, from the original Native Americans to the current military veterans, American President speaks with forked tongue. It's time to replace Obama with a truthful American, Mitt Romney!

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#13 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

                      NightHawk22204

                      Is this merely another OBAMAMAMA SCAM to garner another few votes? Is it available to all veterans as well, including the depressed senior, unemployed, homeless vets who were first denied their pensions and then denied benefits because they happened to be over 60?

                      What in the name of God are you talking about? Denied benefits because they are over 60? You sir, know nothing! Under President Obama the number of presumptive conditions related to Agent Orange have increase and the specific stressor documentation for PTSD has decreased. Most of those effected are over 60 years old. I work with Veterans every day dealing with the Veterans' Administration. There are NO denials based on a veteran over 60 years of age.

                      As many Americans have noted, from the original Native Americans to the current military veterans, American President speaks with forked tongue. It's time to replace Obama with a truthful American, Mitt Romney!

                      Oh, you mean the Mitt Romney who was in France on a deferment from the draft while I was going through basic training...that Mitt Romney? The one who protested the anti-war movement but wouldn't serve himself...that Mitt Romney?

                      You make me want to puke!

                      • 5 votes
                      #13.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:18 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarMelanie Ostlundvia Facebook

                      you got it right these guys and girls have needed this support for the last four years and where has obama been ?

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

                      Romney speaks with forked tongue. He is the MOST major FLIP-flopper that has ever been. He was for it before he was against it. Then retroactively quits something years later.

                      ROMNEY is a bleeping JOKE!!!!!!!!

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:33 PM EDT
                      Wilbert123Deleted
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                      Dealing with suicide with the VA is too late STUPID! The largest portion of the problem recently is with ACTIVE DUTY personnel STUPID. This "man" has completely lost all capacity to make sound decisions (sanity being defined as soundness of mind). Some body PLEASE take this idiot's pens away from him before he really hurts some one. Oh, that's right he already has.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#14 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                      BobW-3215303

                      Bob, speaking of stupid; did you know that currently a veteran commits suicide every 80 minutes? Speaking of stupid Bob, did you know one service member commits suicide every day? Bob, did you know that you know nothing yet post stupid comments anyway? Bob did you know you are stupid?

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                      Hilarious! Republicans, the biggest proponents of the military think now it's bad to give the troops assistance.

                      So stupid.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

                      By the way Bob, how does someone have the balls to use a bald eagle and an American Flag as a Icon, post such an unpatriotic comment? Bob, why do you hate America?

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                      Obama is still mad because of the W Va. convicted felon that got 41% of the vote.

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.4 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                      I love you Ol Doc..Give it to them, because you speak the truth...it is so refreshing to hear it!!!

                        #14.5 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:03 PM EDT
                        Wilbert123Deleted
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                        i have an answer to the suicide issue. get out of this win-less war now.

                          Reply#15 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

                          Good for the President but he needs to go much further if he can!!

                          Our Vets cannot receive enough support.

                          Thank you Veterans for your service!!

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#16 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

                          So now this lady from the West Los Angeles VA responsible for the huge cover up on the lease of VA buildings at the North Hills VA to a private firm for drug and alcohol addicts at $343,000.00 per apartment unit and the awarding of the construction contract will come up. There is lifetime VA property deed that states clearly that land is to be used for Veterans only! Now she must be stopped and this project must halted to accommodate the Presidents order! HOORAY!!

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#17 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

                          Might the suicide rate have something to do with how unprepared our young folks are to face life and death situations. Many/some go into the military because they do not have the skills to make it in the world. One would think after seeing the worst of the world and meet the worst people , would find life here something they want to enjoy. That was my experience after the Army duty.

                            Reply#18 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                            We really need to just stop being concerned with whether Obama does anthing or not. Nov 6, 2012.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#19 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                            HankHankHank

                            Might the suicide rate have something to do with how unprepared our young folks are to face life and death situations. Many/some go into the military because they do not have the skills to make it in the world. One would think after seeing the worst of the world and meet the worst people , would find life here something they want to enjoy. That was my experience after the Army duty.

                            Thank you for your service. I do have some ideas as to what might be more relevant as to reasons for increased suicide: Imagine you experience multiple deployments (up to 6 or more)? Imagine you serve as a Reservist or National Guardsman and have to try to earn a living between deployments. Imagine your family leave you after your 3rd or 4th deployment because you had changed into someone they feared? Imagine just surviving on unemployment until your next deployment to combat? Imagine finally receiving your DD 214 to find no decent paying jobs. Imagine employers afraid to hire you because they fear psychiatric problems. Imagine deep prolonged depression, an attempt to be seen at the VA and being told no one can see you for the next 60 days.

                            The majority of service members returning from deployment deal with some but not all of these situations. But having worked with returning OEF/OIF veterans for the past 7 years, and as a retired SFC myself, I take this situation very seriously and I applaud Obama for his assistance.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#20 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:36 PM EDT
                            Wilbert123Deleted
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                            The DNC schedule:

                            2012 Democrat National Convention Schedule Charlotte, N.C.

                            4:00 PM - Opening Flag Burning Ceremony - sponsored by CNN

                            4:05 PM - Singing of "God D**n America" led by Rev.(?) Jeremiah Wright.

                            4:10 PM - Pledge of Allegiance to Obama.

                            4:15 PM - Ceremonial 'I hate America' led by Michelle Obama.

                            4:30 PM - Tips on "How to keep your man trustworthy & true to you while you travel the world" - Hillary Clinton

                            4:45 PM -Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson seminar "How to have a successful career without having a job." MY FAVORITE

                            5:00 PM - "Great Vacations I've Taken on the Taxpayer's Dime Travel Log" - Michelle Obama.

                            5:30 PM - Eliot Spitzer Speaks on "Family Values" via Satellite.

                            5:45 PM - Tribute to All 57 States - Nancy Pelosi

                            6:00 PM - Sen. Harry Reid - 90-minute speech expressing the Democrat's appreciation of the Occupy Wall Street movement, and George Soros for sparing no expense, for all that they have accomplished to unify the country, improve employment and to boost the economy.

                            8:30 PM - Airing of Grievances by both Clintons.

                            9:00 PM - "Bias in Media - How we can make it work for you" Tutorial - sponsored by CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times.

                            9:15 PM - Tribute Film to Brave Freedom Fighters incarcerated at GITMO - Michael Moore.

                            9:45 PM - Personal Finance Seminar - Charlie Rangle.

                            10:00 PM - Denunciation of Bitter Gun Owners and Bible readers.

                            10:30 PM - Ceremonial Waving of White Flag for IRAQ & Afghanistan, brief video on why we hate the military

                            11:00 PM - Obama Energy Plan Symposium / Tire Gauge Demonstration / You too can get rich with Green Investment bankruptcies.

                            11:15 PM - Free Gov. Blagovich rally.

                            11:30 PM - Obama Accepts Oscar, Tony and Latin Grammy Awards

                            11:45 PM - Feeding of the Delegates with 5 Loaves and 2 Fish. Obama Presiding.

                            12:00 AM - Official Nomination of Obama by Bill Maher and Chris "He sends a thrill up my leg" Matthews.

                            12:01 AM - Obama Accepts Nomination as Lord and Savior.

                            12:05 AM - Celestial Choirs Sing.

                            3:00 AM - Biden Delivers Acceptance Speech.

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#21 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                            That is funny, true but funny.

                            • 3 votes
                            #21.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                            Hey...that's really funny johnny. Seems to me I remember a brand of tub and bowl cleaner named johnny. And Bob...you're so conditioned by FOX News I have no doubt you believe it.

                            • 3 votes
                            #21.2 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                            This is just more Obama pandering for votes. If he really cared he would of done it long ago. The Vets know this...they aren't stupid.

                            • 5 votes
                            #21.3 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                            ol_doc, I have read some of your above post. Keep your day Job cause your no Doctor, otherwise you would have known laughter is the best medicine. Try His Channel.com friend. Just for You Ol_Doc I am going to repost Obamas resignation notice. Enjoy. MGySgt- Semper Fi....

                            “OBAMA CANCELS CAMPAIGN – SURRENDERS TO THE GOP AND ROMNEY/RYAN TICKET”

                            Obama has decided to surrender as his last act of “Historic Proportions” as America’s first Mixed-Race President. Speaking from Air Force One on his way to Disneyland,...
                            Obama said:

                            “In as much as it has been my objective to carry out a war to destroy the nation of the United States of America, it is only fitting that, rather than resign or be defeated in a landslide at the polls, I SURRENDER and acknowledge that I have been defeated in this war.”

                            “I have used everything in my power and knowledge to win this war. I have passionately used Alinsky’s Rules of attack-attack-attack, The Cloward-Piven Strategy of overwhelming the system, everything I learned in twenty years listening to Reverend Wright (the former Muslim turned Black Liberation Theology Master), my beloved Karl Marx, Lenin, Gramsci, Socialist / Communist Union Leaders, 90% of Hollywood, and the Muslim Brotherhood.”

                            “I have attempted to destroy the Judeo-Christian Foundation upon which America was established by supporting and promoting what has been for 2000 years considered to be immoral and evil by the entire planet. That being abortion at any time by anyone for any reason (I did not know that Planned Parenthood was originally started to limit the growth of the Black population – my bad), with or without the parents or husbands knowledge. Also, gay marriage, drug use (it worked for me), the demoralization of the military.”

                            “I have tried my best to destroy virtually every institution in America. I have forced Christian Churches, schools, and hospitals to go against their beliefs, to hire employees who stand directly opposed to their beliefs, to perform medical practices that they believe go against the Word of God. I have forced the military to accept into its ranks people whose lifestyles were consider to violate the UCMJ since its inception. I have forced banks and mortgage companies to make loans to individuals who did not meet minimal credit standards and were clearly unable to pay back the loans and mortgages.”

                            “I and my fellow Democrats/Socialists/Communists/Marxists created this mortgage crisis to destroy the housing industry in America so that home values would decline since their value is most Americans #1 asset and wealth factor. (Money is power you know) I laugh when I hear people blaming Bush for this since it was started in the last two years of the Bush Administration since he was powerless because WE controlled both Houses of Congress.”

                            “I created “ObamaCare” in order to have my administration take control of another 16% of the nation’s economy, to increase tax revenues which we could use for any purpose I chose, including the redistribution of America’s wealth to those who refuse to work and around the world to other failed Marxists/Communist/Socialist nations.”

                            “I refused to allow more energy production in the USA because I prefer to continue to send both jobs and $700 billion each year to Muslim Nation/States so that they will gain in power and strength. I have done all I can to spread Islam in America including placing Muslim Brotherhood Members and supporters in government positions. American’s are so foolish sometimes that they have actually allowed Sharia Law to be implemented and used in US Courts in violation of your Constitution – and we have demanded the “Constitutionally Guaranteed right of Freedom of Religion” even though they neither support your constitution nor themselves believe in Freedom of Religion.”

                            “Yet, I SURRENDER! I have seen the movie “2016” – I have heard what my half/brother has said – I have heard about the books – I sense my Liberal Media preparing for my defeat by acknowledging the Republicans and their Leaders are not evil as they have been portrayed – (even CNN did not bash them 100% of the time) I see many of those I fooled in the last election no longer believing the stuff we made up. I laugh when I see my people demanding that Romney release his tax records for ten years when I have released noting about my life and history.”

                            “I SURRENDER now because I know that the Dreams of My Father of destroying the West and America, to revenge ‘Colonialism,’ to defeat Liberty, will not come to fruition as long as America and the American People stand.”

                            Barrack H. Obama

                            • 8 votes
                            #21.4 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:04 PM EDT
                            Wilbert123Deleted

                            Johnny92078

                            Awesome posts!! Can I copy and email???

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.6 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

                            @ Johnny: Thank you! Made my day!!

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.7 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:29 AM EDT

                            11:45 PM - Feeding of the Delegates with 5 Loaves and 2 Fish. Obama Presiding......ROFL!!!!

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.8 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 7:01 AM EDT

                            Johnny, you are the MAN! ((((STANDING OVATION))) Those are 2 of the most awesome posts I have ever read! But you forgot 11:50 - Blowbama walks on water...

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.9 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                            Witesox! You made me choke on my drink! Too funny!

                              #21.10 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:02 PM EDT

                              Johnny, that is so freakin funny. Best laugh I have had today. Can I print and show others, giving you full credit of course.

                                #21.11 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:03 PM EDT
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                                You want to do something to end the suicides, end the f^*king wars azzhole.

                                  Reply#22 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                                  Look what war does to our vets. They will never be the same and this country doesn't do enough for our veterans, when they come home from war. I'm waiting on a arterial bypass, and I am in so much pain, I even think about killing myself, just to be without pain. It gets old. It's just like our veterans coming back from war with, much more than pain to deal with. And if it wasn't for that ass-hole George Bush who lied to all of us about the war in Iraq, some of these vets wouldn't have to go with what they do. This country doesn't care enough about our veterans, the poor or the elderly. They only care about money, the deficit, and giving the rich tax breaks. This country just plain sucks.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#23 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                  I appreciate what our vets have been thru and am saddened by some of the comments I have been reading. I agree with your arizonaron69, our vets are not appreciated. I worked as a CNA at our vet home in Indiana and was so ashamed at the state of the building. The building needs so much improving done to it. After I left because of an injury, I heard that they finally closed the floor I was working on because of asbestos problems. There are roaches in that building in the basement where the linens are kept that are bigger than a quarter. I used to cry at night when I worked there. There aren't enough CNA's working on a shift to take care of the residents properly. I got in trouble for taking time to talk to a resident and listen to them. It is a shame that they have to be treated this way. I wish President Obama could see the conditions they have to live with daily. Why would our boys want to come home to this. It is disgraceful. This was in 2002-2003. I am tempted to erase this so nobody sees this but it is wearing on my soul and people need to know. I know there is an empty hospital in our town that would be a much better place for these poor residents. Hope someone reads this and looks into it. As for the elderly and the poor, I truly feel Obama does care for them and has been trying to help, but whenever he does it gets voted down. If people could just work together for a common cause instead of trying to complete some political agenda and make the president look bad our country might be a place that our vets and everyone else would want to live in and be happy. Just sayin......

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #23.1 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:45 PM EDT
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                                  Wilbert123Deleted

                                  Finally. Any veteran, Democrat or Republican or else, who served America deserves the best of care.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#25 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                                  Bring our people home!!! Quit sending them out OVER AND OVER AND OVER again..... Get them the help they need instead of patching it up and sending them BACK...WHY WHY WHY is it so hard to see what is it is that is being done to these people????

                                  1.... The NEW Rules of Engagement virtually TIE our soldiers hands so they can NOT do their job...(turning them into glorified security guards)

                                  2.... War creates unhealthy psychological and physiological changes...Anxiousness, sleeplessness, Nervousness, and BOREDOM....add that all together and what do you get???

                                  3.... We keep sending our people for repeated tours...Many get lots of tours I personally KNOW 4 people who are on their 4th time over.... Why?

                                  4.... Many of those with repeated tours don't know if they are getting sent back to hell to sit and do nothing, not knowing if it their turn to get shot this time....

                                  Again...bring our people home, there is NOTHING positive about us being there. We are torturing our own people by doing this....And now our President has to Order our VA to do something about helping these Vets instead of helping all of them right now.... really??? Let's help them all and BRING THEM HOME!!!!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#26 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                  I need to sign off Ol Doc, but you keep all these naysayers in line and the Repukes, well just give them hell...

                                  God bless our troops and the US of America

                                  Air Force Vet and Mother of a Combat Soldier...HOOAH!!!

                                    Reply#27 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                                    pittsburgh*****steelers****suck****JUST******LIKE*******LIBERALS

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #27.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:11 AM EDT
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