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Subscribe to RSSThe Navy SEAL's controversial account of the Bin Laden raid goes on sale today. NBC's Danielle Leigh reports.
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Copies of a book by a former Navy SEAL titled "No Easy Day" are seen on display at a bookstore in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.
Updated at 9:33 p.m. ET: On the same day that a book about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden was officially released, the Commander of Naval Special Warfare Command sent a letter to all members of the Special Operations community warning them to stop releasing details about their secretive world.
"We do NOT advertise the nature of our work, NOR do we seek recognition for our actions," wrote the commander, Rear Admiral Sean Pybus. “Today, we find former SEALs headlining positions in a Presidential campaign; hawking details about a mission against Enemy Number 1; and generally selling other aspects of NSW training and operations. For an Elite Force that should be humble and disciplined for life, we are certainly not appearing to be so.”
He was referring, in part, to “No Easy Day,” written under the pseudonym Mark Owen, which gives a firsthand account of the killing of the al-Qaida leader on May 2, 2011.
Related: Ex-Navy SEAL sought advice before publishing book, lawyer says
“No Easy Day” is not the only problem, a senior U.S. military official told NBC News. In fact, the official said, it was the “the straw that broke the camel’s back.”
The official said that a recent movie starring actual Navy SEALs and even the growing number of "SEAL" workout videos have all added up to too much information about the community out in the public arena.
Over the next few weeks, Pybus will speak to senior leaders about how to stop the trend of former SEALS profiting from their time in uniform.
Also Tuesday, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said the book contains “sensitive and classified information,” although he refused to say what in the book is considered classified.
The firsthand account of the Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden has climbed to the top of the Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com best-seller lists. NBC's Brian Williams reports.
Little said at this time the Pentagon would not attempt to halt the sale of the book on U.S. military installations. U.S. officials told NBC News the Pentagon appears powerless to stop the public distribution of the book.
Little repeated the claim that by writing the book, the former Navy SEAL is in "material breach" of a non-disclosure agreement that requires him to submit the book or transcript to the U.S. military for prepublication review if it contains classified material. In a letter to the Pentagon's Chief Counsel, Jeh Johnson, the former SEAL's attorney claims his client was not required to put the book through the prepublication process.
Related: Ex-Navy SEAL says book on bin Laden raid about 9/11, not politics
A senior Pentagon official, however, claims Owen violated his obligations on three counts. He failed to submit the book for pre-publication review, published classified information and revealed sensitive information about the SEAL's "tactics and techniques" in taking down bin Laden.
Officials at the Pentagon say it's not clear the Justice Department will pursue criminal charges against Owen, but suggest the U.S. government could seize all money paid to the former SEAL and the publisher, Dutton, under the non-disclosure agreement signed by Owen before he left the Navy.
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How funny....The Obama administration upset about someone leaking classified information...LOL More likely the book talks about the fact Obama stoped the raid multiple times because he was afraid of political backlash and was scared it would hurt him politically... Please.. Back to Kenya in November you go Barrack.
Back under your rock you go Timmeh!
Timmy boy, prove it. Also, if you want to trash Barack Obama, at least learn to spell his name. Now go away.Your mom's calling you.
Back to your Kave, Timmieboy. No one but other head-in-the-sand Teabaggers want to deal with your self-deluding BS.
What an interesting debate. We’ve all heard Obama say on numerous occasions that HE killed Bin Laden. Now we have a Navy SEAL that has come forward to provide us with a first person account of what really went down. Maybe Mr. Obama can provide us with a little more detail to back up his claim. Maybe HE should write a book, one based on reality. I can’t wait to read the chapter about how MOMMY Valerie Jarrett told him to keep sucking his thumb until SHE decided it was ok for the SEALS to risk THEIR lives. Now MOMMY and Barack have ordered the Pentagon to declare that there was classified information in the book. I haven’t read the book yet but I suspect that the only classified information Obama and MOMMY Jarrett are concerned about is that Obama is being exposed for the timid little man he is. There was a time when men would settle their differences face to face, but then I’m dating myself. We are in a new age. The Obama age. Ok Mr. President, go ahead and send MOMMY out to defend you.
@timothy kaluhiokalani
Ah, hearing those voices in your head again Tim? Time to come in and take your meds. And where did you leave your pants this time? You shouldn't run around in public without your pants, Tim, you're almost 12-years old!
After George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are prosecuted for "outing" Valerie Plame we should prodecute seals for revealing info about such a patriotic act as taking out Osama Bin Laden, the director of 9/11/01!
Robert in Oregon - I think I hear your mommy caling. Time for bed
Hey! You guys leave Tim alone. I mean, after all, OBUMMA gave that movie company a free pass to the Pentagon to gather information for a movie about it to come out just in time for the elections. I personally believe it was an Osama bin Laden look-alike since there was such a big hurry to dump him in the ocean. It was said that the DNA matched...well, I did a little reading about DNA and learned it can be manufactured in a laboratory.
What I've heard is that another SEAL Team was offered the job prior to SEAL Team 6 accepting the job. The Obama Administration has sought to deal with Osama bin Laden. How many times has the U.S. hit Pakistani territory over the past 4 years....afraid of political backlash...come up with a cohesive argument!
DNA manufactured in a laboratory. Now I have heard everything. I bet you think Frankenstein was a biography.
Yuma huh... another bright bulb from arizona.
Eric Holder and his justice department need to look at Fast and Furious before they have any say about the Navy Seal Hero who wrote this book. What stinkin nerve they have criticizing and threatening this Seal with all the leaks coming out of the obuma administration.
cirque1946
You really don't want to go there! Its been reported on every station but FOX that Arizona law forbid the DOJ from nabbing the bad guys. The Jan Brewer law allows anyone to buy as many guns as they want, walk into the parking lot and turn them over to anybody. One case had an indigent man buy thousands of dollars worth of guns in cash, walk out the door and turn them over to other people. The indigent man the just walked away. Arizona law blocked the DOJ from arresting or detaining the gun runners.
This guy was one of the most highly trained soldiers in our military... lots of money went into his training. He also had a top secret security clearance which means he is supposed to keep his big mouth shut regarding military operations. He needs to be stripped of rank and jailed as a traitor for writing this book. He just lost all respect from me for the job he helped accomplish in killing the world's biggest terrorist. He wants everybody to know who he is... what a jerk.
Who the hell are you to judge??? Have you even read the book??? Your soo upset...must be a diehard Obummer the apologizer in chief fan!!!! Seriously, I doubt the author gives a crap what you think about it or if you respect him!!! He was there fighting in this god forsaken debacle while you sit comfortably in front of your computer screen bitchin'!!! Obama and the entire government would sell any soldier from any branch of the service down the river in a heartbeat if it suited their political agenda. In fact it's been done many times. BTW Obama did NOT take down Bin Laden the Seals did. That little winnie probably couldn't take down a little wiener dog much less a terrorist!!! And before you screech, I am NOT a republican and never hve been!! Until a month ago I was a registered dem. Changed my affiliation to Independent because of the crappy job BO has done and his gigantic ego and arrogance. NOT his color.
@ descrs-1664846,
And yet he hides behind a phony name. He knows he isn't the bad @ss he was with his team 6 or was he the one hiding in the helicopter while everyone else was doing the raid? I doubt his team mates will be able to come forward and dispute his story without putting them selves and their families in danger. Believe it or not?
I still have my doubts that the body convieniently dumped at sea is that of Osama Bin ladin. We simply do not have the technology to process DNA evidence that quickly. I also have the sneaky suspision that Obama found out that Bin Ladin had in fact been killed in 2001 as rumors had claimed but was covered up to continue the war on terror. Bush can't say anything and Obama knows it if this is true. Just speculation. Without a body to have identified by his own followers what proof do we have this was actually Osama ?
As far as this seal and other violating their oath of secrecy it demonstrates where we are going as a country. Our honor as a people is in decline. Our word means nothing. Greed lead this guy to expose tradesecurity secrets for profit regardless that it would jeapordize us all if we can carry out these operations as well now. He is not concerned his his fellow Americans safety but only the dollars he will make . he deserves a full court marshal and sent to prison for life. he placed all of ours in peril.
Let the truth stand and Obama's spiking the football end. He never quits with sad rhetoric.
SEALs hawking for publicity-Makes me proud to be a Marine!!!!!!
Semper Fi
Tim - Robert is correct in saying Barry never said HE killed bin Laden. It was his minions in the DNC and Lame Stream Media that are giving him credit for it. He only "looked at all the intelligence" and sent them in right away. Yeah, right, just like when he waffled until the SEALS took the initiative and shot the Somali Pirates. (I wonder if he's apologized to the Somali Pirates yet?)
I guess the SEAL was wrong to write the book since it had not been an approved leak by the Obama Reelection Team/Administration. You know, the ones that the Just Us Department can't seem to find the statue that the Administration violated when leaking info to the press.
Flat out our military needs a raise, and they also need to be taken care of when they return home,
all this on the count of an inflation that is still spiraling from 8 years of corporate aggression Tim Leary..
I belive it was the president himself that stood on tv that first nigth and said we got osama. He himself stood there on national tv and said seal team 6 killed him. If that isnt giving away way to much info then i dont know what is. Obama himself put a target on every seal team 6 member. I think he should be tried for treason and sent away for good for endangering their lives.
When the best you can do is mock Obama's name with some retarded attempt to be witty, it really is time to get off the f*cking internet, dude. Instead of clever, you come looking pathetically desperate.
What I find annoying is the blatant hypocrisy that some people show. You'll blame him, and only him, for every f*cking bad or wrong thing that happens in this country, yet flat out refuse to give him credit for anything positive he had a hand in. If those SEALs had died during this mission, you know for a fact you'd stand there blaming Obama for it and you are full of sh*t if you say you wouldn't. So, sorry, but in my book, he gets a 'job well done' along with everyone else involved in killing that bastard.
Lastly, if Obama really leaked information that badly, don't you think the asshat Republicans would already have impeachment proceedings in the works? They are just salivating at the mouth in hopes he f*cks up bad enough that they can take him down.
Loose lips sink ships, this book is treasonous. This IDIOT should be charged with treason and put in solitary for life. I don't care if bin laden was shot in the head, chest or ass, I don't care if he was beaten to death, I don't care if the Seals cut off his balls and laughed at him and pissed on him while he bled to death, it doesn't matter. What matters is this Seal has broken his oath and divulged secret information that may or may not threaten our country's security and/or operational information and/or operational tactics. He does not have the character to be a Seal. If he gave up info this easy for money, what kind of info would he give up during interrogation if captured. He is a national disgrace.
Obama revealed nothing by saying it was Seal team 6 it could have been team 22or 15 or1 or12 or any other number, he did nit divulge personal info on their members, and who other than top brass knows if Seal team 6 even exists, it could have been Seal team epsilon or theta or gamma for all we know.
Fake Republicans have a lot of excuses to be traitors.
Yet they hate Assange.
Any real conservative would not be "Hot dogging it." "They play closer to the vest."
Clint Eastwood said that at the RNC. That is if you were paying attention with your ears and brains. Somebody wake me when the Republican Party is the conservative party, again.
No difference whatsoever between Assange and this Navy Seal. Both should be thrown in jail forever. And the money should go to the families of the soldiers who get killed because of their stupidity.
The reason the book will sell so many copies is because the Goverment tells us what they want us to hear, what they think we should hear. people are buying this book because they believe it will we the TRUTH. People want the TRUTH.
You never hear squat about Force Recon and they are same thing as SEALS. Evidently Marines don't feel the need for self garatification. Semper Fi.
Chris - "What I find annoying is the blatant hypocrisy that some people show. You'll blame him, and only him, for every f*cking bad or wrong thing that happens in this country..." The same could be said for the Dems and Bush. Obama has blamed him for everything since he took office. He's been there now going on 4 years, when is he responsible for anything that goes wrong? He sure is first in line to take credit when it goes right.
He deserves all the credit in the world for unleashing the SEALS. He deserves NONE of the credit for the actual operation. His administration has been leaking info about the operation to make him look good, so why is he so concerned about this book? (You can demand proof of the leak, but I do believe it has been proved to both parties that there is a leak and it is being investigated) The story has been changed several time by the Administration, from bin Laden had a gun to not having a gun, from his wives rushing the SEALS to them being out of the way. Why not just tell the truth the first time? Had this been Bush, the networks would have been all over it.
And I find it hilarious that you would complain about making fun of a name. After all the juvenile name calling at Palin, Bush, Romney, Ryan, McCain, Cain, Trump, Newt, Limbaugh, at all the rest, I would have figured you folks would have developed a thicker skin. But, no, call the Chosen One Barry just once and you folks will cry like an infant with a full diaper. Go up, or a pair.
Let's forget about conspiracy theories, whether they dumped Osama or not, if it was really him, whether Obama hesitated multiple times to carry out the mission, who cares? The belief is that Osama is dead... that's a GOOD thing.
Several people have indicated that this guy has committed a crime, some suggest he should be tried for treason and others say he should be stripped of his rank and ousted from the military. Should we hold the White House and the President to the same standard? The movie "Seal Team 6" was guided by the WH. They movie director was given access to classified information and the leader of "Seal Team 6" was revealed to the movie makers. Many of the so called secret "tactics" will be shown, all compliments of briefings by the WH.
A big problem is that the world shouldn't haven't even known about this covert operation, let alone it was Seal team 6 that carried it out. This information was immediately divulged by the WH as soon as it was apparent the mission was a success.
So does it boil down to motivation? What would Owen have to gain from this? He risked everything he worked for in his career to write this book, including jeopardizing his retirement. He has been outed, which exposes his family and himself to injury or death. He is being scrutinized by the DOD and could face criminal charges. There's no indication this was politically motivated by him. Could it possibly be that he wrote it for the reason he stated "that he wanted to set the record straight".
You've got a person who is highly trained and put his life on the line in order for missions to be successful. He knows the truth of what happened that day. Maybe, after putting so much into training, serving his country, living on the edge of dying with every mission, he got sick of the exploitation happening and said "screw it, someone has got to tell the truth".
Now ask yourself if Obama had any motives for divulging top secret information to politically motived film makers? Who has exploited Osama's death?
But don't let the facts get in the way of a nice campaign narrative.
So, since everyone else is doing it, why can't you? Talk about childish, lol. Oh you can call him Barry all you like. It's when you idiots start in with the retarded @!$%# like Odumbo or the even more retarded 'Hussein Obama', that you make yourselves look like 3rd graders out on the playground.
In case you're not aware of it, every President for the last 200+ years has blamed his predecessor for anything bad. It's the platform on which they run. You're not going to get elected by bragging about how great your opponent is/was. So don't attempt to say that this is Obama's signature action, 'putting the blame on Bush'. It's every single President we've had.
I'm not responsible for the other 5 year olds and their name calling. But you can go thru my postings for the last 5 years and not find any kiddie name calling. As for needing to grow up, I spent 13 years in the Navy, a full year of that deployed on 2 tours of the Gulf, '93 and '96. Trust me, I got my balls well in hand.
Looks like you are whinning right now Mike....sorry a bunch of squids stole ya thunder. Just another part of the Department of the Navy
That's what this is all about. "Someone else" (cough, cough) was going to write a book on this and got beat to the punch!
Chris - It would appear that YOU and yours are the name callers here. Barry was the name Obama went by in school. Hussein is his MIDDLE NAME. Learn before you cry foul, you ill informed minion. LOL all you want. As I said earlier, grow a pair.
As for "every President for 200+ years" blaming their predecessor, you are really expecting us to believe this? Regan did talk about the economy under Carter, but after 3 years he was grown up enough to understand that what was happening was on him. He didn't continue it into the re-election campaign. GHW Bush sure didn't blame his predecessor. Clinton, for all his faults, especially being only the second Impeached President in our history, "manned up" and fixed what was wrong. GW Bush did not blame Clinton into his 4th year, either. Even when the 9/11 Commission stated we had opportunity after opportunity to get bn Laden, Bush was gentleman enough not to scream it like the current resident of the most expensive Government Housing in DC does.
Oh, and Chris, I spent 25 years in the Navy, made many more than 2 deployments, and my balls are not in my hand.
We already know;
How the information regarding Bin Laden's whereabouts was obtained;
What type of "classified" aircraftwere used in the raid; (and, one of them crashed so it's skeletal remains were, no doubt, deconstructed by the Pakistani Air Force)
The unit that conducted the raid;
The fact that the Pakistani's HAD to know he was there.....and we know several other "things" about the operation that Obama has talked about incessantly since it took place.
If this guy makes a buck off of this book....so be it! These guys put their hides on the line a lot more than we are aware-of, and as far as I'm concerned they deserve to be millionares for keeping us safe!
Obama and this seal are traitors to the US and to the US Navy Seals.
It's just that simple.
If someone confirms what the President has already stated, it confirms a secret, even though the secret is already out. A technicality but still a release of classified information.
How is the President a traitor?
@ Cappy-1911
He is a traitor and could indeed be brought up on impeachment charges for the fact that he is directing his AG to not support the laws on the books including immigration and black-on-white crimes.
Do you have any proof of your claims? Of course you don't.
How many of you liberals have gone to see Obama 2016? Probably none. Don't want to see the truth.
Want some truth? Read the Fortune, Inc. investigation of "fast and furious". ...and you people call yourselves patriots...what a sick joke that is!
Two things: #1: Though I am aware of this- thing, I never saw it playing anywhere. #2. Do you really think that they expected liberals to run out and see it? (I read the review: http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-anti-obama-film-muddy-facts-072153385--politics.html )
Dont worry Hal. He is just another tight@ss believing everything he sees in the movies.
Sobakey and Cirq? You guys read the recent NY times story about Romney's life? Doubt it also. Good read.
Another typical Obama election period deflection. PS: Kenya doesn't want him
Book should have been pulled...problem resolved.
Does it take a woman to run this country....2016.
I have opened the door...now all your critics come on through. lol
No to Mrs. Hillary Clinton to run in 2016. She has TOOOOO many problems to deal with concerning her Chief of Staff.
Further, we don't need a "self proclaimed" "Modern Day Progressive" in the White House.
Mr. and Mrs. Clinton should go back to Arkansas and finish up their Whitewater deal. Oh, another issue on the table.
Wait a minute, Mrs. Clinton threw a Bollywood campaign supporter under the HillaryWagon. Oh, another issue on the table.
Wait another minute, Mrs. Clinton went to Haiti to give away American taxpayer funds for re-building after the earthquake, and folks there are STILL living in tents. Guess who was there with open hands ? Mr. Clinton and his Global Welfare Company. Oh, another issue on the table.
NOT a critic.....just plain FACTS.
This is all crap. Nothing will come of it.
Low IQ : Start with the Commander in thief first...
It's pretty easy to guess who's behind this. This book is this year's Republican "swift-boating", this time directed at President Obama. The timing couldn't make it more obvious.
Let's hope the remnants of responsible journalism in America will do a better job this time in documenting truth, rather than remaining silent during a bald-face and dishonorable attack. The journalists were feckless in protecting the heroic wartime record and earned honors of Sen. John Kerry, in 2004, when the Bush/Republican smear campaign did this to him.
Americans should expect better than this sort of garbage during a presidential campaign.
You cannot swift boat a person if they keep their name clean. Obama has so many skeletons in the closet he cannot keep track of them. The SEAL tells the truth as opposed to the Truth of Lord Obama and the Pentagon puppets attempt to orchestrate obstructionist actions. If they had a leg to stand on they would have already arrested him.
@Harry: Guess you never heard of the GOP Dirty Tricks guys, huh? If they can't find anything good enough, they just make stuff up. But I guess you would choose not to know about that.
Hillary will take the win in 2016. That aside, the military needs now to look at the case of this Seal sell out and close any and all loop holes this traitor to his command is, has and could possibly use to profit off his military experience as a Seal. Along with those laws they create to seal the breaches, instill mandatory prison sentences for those that attempt to breach them in the future. Besides, this Seal can say anything truth or fiction as he already knows that in order to correct his version would ensue other Seals to expose themselves and put themselves in breach of their oaths and he knows it just isn't going to happen.
If they touch one hard earned benefit of this SEAL fire every single one of the MF's involved. That is an American hero that just wasted one of the biggest POS in the world and just because he said what we all know, that Obama is worthless, he is be targeted by the liberal fk ups of this country.
We know who is behind the agenda to deface this guy. Vote them all out of office.
Easy. Life in prison or the death penalty - problem solved.
So, put Obama in jail for his book than Jeff. Or is that just too much hypocrisy?
To be honest, I prefer the death penalty though.
You retards are clearlyh Re;pugs and Tea Party traitors, you are so eager to "believe" what this traitor writes to seldl books and to Swift Boat the Commander in Chief. In this case it is m ore shamless and disgusting because thaty/ytou are doing it to the President, and alkl of you creeps who think it's the truth this traitor is writing, you're a pack of fools. As someone pointed out the Navy/Pentagon can't corect any lies in his book because then they would be exposing "classified info" and further endangering other honorable people serving in the military. This bastard ought to be arrested and put before a firing squad. I don't think it's only money he's after, tho I'm sure hde won't donaqte it ALL to charity or even any of it despite h is proomises. I think it's to bring down the incumbent President by a dirty, well calculated timed attack on his honor.You crees and dirtbags got away with it re: John Kerry. And you are a fool to say no one can be "Swift Boated" if they don't have something to hide. Ever heard of LIES< dumbo? That's what our current Republican Party deals in, exclusively. LThey don't bring up embarrassing facts, they make them up. That's inexcusable and way outside the bounds of politics as we used to practice in America. We are in trouble, folks. There is nohonor among some of our military and they'd rather betray their country, have their buddies in arms murdered by telling or making up stories that only hurt our country. What a way to wion an election!!!Just like a banan republic where some in the miltary decide to make and unmake rulers. Well, you creeps ought to be kicked out of the American military and be sent to South America, pronto.
You hit the nail on the head Jon.
Considering that Obama, as PRESIDENT, can declassify anything he wants, calling him a traitor for it is beyond ludicrous. And death-wishing the President is about as low as you can get Jon.
lildebbie
Your spelling and grammar, or lack of, betray your intelligence. How can anyone take you seriously?
This man is a disgrace to the uniform. Any medals he might have received should be returned. He took a vow of silence, and he betrayed that vow.
Whatever money the government seizes on the sales of this book should go to the Wounded Warriors Project. To help soldiers who are TRULY Heroes.
If you had a Top Secret SCI clearance for more than 20 years, you'd understand that all of this was a cover to protect a lie. A body dumped at sea before any second hand party could verify it, then nearly all of the highly secret SEAL Team killed off in the news media and then here's the book.
Obama has no right to declassify @!$%# without Congressional aproval. But he doesn't give a fk about how our country's laws are. He thinks he is above them. Fred, your name spells him out Obama precisely.
" They Called me Tater Salad"
@Jon Jones Ignoring author
Wow, you are clueless. "Congressional approval"? Oh, please. What a completely idiotic statement! Do you ever actually research anything before you post? It appears, from reading a dozen or more of your posts, that truth and facts are entirely irrelevant to you; you just go for the meaningless, hateful drivel.
The cat is already out of the bag. Once Obama revealed his "official" version of the Bin Laden raid as the POTUS secrets were already revealed by publicizing the action. Anybody going to prosecute the POTUS? Really? Maybe Eric Holder will.
The Seal could have written the book overseas under a psuedonym and it would still become a Best Seller on the American bookshelves. So why is there any big deal about somebody (who was there) telling what he performed or witnessed? Maybe his version is more believable than the POTUS?
Just about anybody is more believable than the POTUS!!!!!!!
Hahaha Too Many Secrets? Like the new soon to be released Made For TV Oh Dark Thirty Movie Obama's White House has been working with the CIA Hollywood and the New York Times To "Beef Up" I ain't got NOBODY Obama's Emaciated Image?
Hmm well I guess even a Work of Fiction can divulge a secret or to but.........
Wake Up America all POMPUS Obama is trying to do is Back Door The Fantasy Of Bumbling Barry's I got USA bin NOBODY nonsense because if they raise the claim People will once again demand "Proof" where there is none!
Remember Back Door Barry was about to be Impeached Over Libya and that is the ONLY reason for this story at all...Magically the Impeachment Story Disappeared Almost as Fast as those Magical Seals did after the fact!
Fine you want to believe in Fairy Tails & Fantasies So be It But The Rest Of US Demand The Proof That Extraordinary Claims Require since there has been NOTHING so far but Smoke & Mirrors with Lies and More Lies from Barry Bush-Wacker since the Day He Took Office!
NOBODY just one more reason to Refuse To Re-Elect ANY UN Incumbent in November be they Democrat or Republican because they were all in on this SCAM.
Psst It's Time get Your Money Out Of Wall Street As Fast As Possible The Euro-Banister-Collapse Engineered By Wall Street Is Coming Soon!
Soros & Forbes pulled out already!
Obama is just ticked off because this guy exposed him for the lies he has been fabricating. The truth of the matter is out.
The Obama White House staff has leaked far more damaging top secret information and continues to do so. The DOJ has yet to prosecute any of them to date and never will. The DOJ will however go after this guy with a blood thirsty vengeance. If this guy's account had lined up with Obama's account, just like the movie "zero dark thirty" whom the Obama administration fed information to, you would never hear this much drama...
I was in the Submarine Service in the '60's, and I know much classified information, believe me if this dude's book actually contained printed material that is classified, his ass would be in a sling post haste. The government is very protective of it's classified information, unless your talking about China.
Then Barlow you would have to agree it's all a Publicity Stunt To Attempt to Back Door into the Election the I Got bin NOBODY Obama's Nonsense Story!
Otherwise the US Military / DOJ would have Popped This Magical Seal Under the Nearest Navy Brig Fast Enough To Cause Him To Lose His Water!
Instead They Create a NEW NONSENSE STORY Everyday For The MAINSTAIN MEDIA To Disseminate!
Think about it....Is This The Kind Of Man Who Deserve Another Term To Lie To US?
Again Extraordinary Claims.....Require Extraordinary PROOF....And All We Got is the "Word" of a Proven Liar & Promise Breaker....One Who Was About To Be Impeached Over Libya when this Magical Seal Story Broke!
Show US The bin NOBODY Obama...Or STFU About Your Fantasies!
You know... Delta Force does their job and you never even hear that they did anything. Seems like the Navy might have a flapping lip problem.
The Pakistani Press noticed the raid and was asking questions and was going to go public on the International stage about THEIR version of what happened during the raid. The administration was faced with the choice between unchallenged supposition from the Pakistani press (which would have been grossly inaccurate even in the generalities) or making SOME details known in an effort to get the TRUTH out. No matter which party was in power, the decision would have been the same - to release some details so that we as a country could not be painted INTERNATIONALLY with incorrect stories. The Pakistani government was also asking questions and was going to publish their spin on what happened.
So which version did the people lobbing criticism want known? What would you all have said if the Obama Administration hadn't released the VERY limited information that it did and all we had was the Pakistani version (which everybody knows would have been inaccurate and anti-American)? Why do I get the feeling that this was a "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't" situation?
After all, Bush said that getting OBL wasn't important to him and it wasn't a priority...
Think About It differnet....Why Would These Magical Seals be involved in a Land Operation Anyway?
It would be like Delta Force Taking Out a Yacht On The High Sea's.....Just Something They Are Not Trained To Do and a GREAT WAY to Start an Inter-Service Turf War....Which It Didn't!
Why Is That?
Again BS from the Get Go and Honestly It Is Embarrassing SOooo many people seem to have ate it up Hook Line and bin NOBODY!
Any Navy Seal should know by now that only the Obama administration is allowed to leak intelligence information. As if the landing of a drone in Iran was a mistake. The Obama administration has been on a quest to remove as many advantages the nation has held militarily by leaks or battlefield mishaps. But Seals are not allowed to do the same since they don't have Eric Holder covering their backs.
There is NO WAY this book is being released without the consent of the military.
The " Reveal to many secrets" statement is a measured and intentional statement.
The only 'secret' exposed by this book is that Obama is a vindictive bastard! The reality is that most Americans already knew that... but nevertheless Barry is determined to punish those who have tainted his only legacy of the last 4 years!
@MUW,
RE: "Think About It differnet....Why Would These Magical Seals be involved in a Land Operation Anyway?"
A Navy seal is a US Navy special forces team member. Seal stands for Sea,
Air and Land. The members of this team are highly trained and are comfortable
working equally on water, air or land.
If you want to LEARN about the Seals start here ww.navyseals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70544 or
ww.specialoperations.com/Army/Delta_Force/default.html and start LEARNING about all of our Special Forces genius.
The ONLY part of YOUR F%$KING Retarded A$$ Clown comment that was CORRECT is that it didn't start an Inter-Service "TURF" war. These are not little teenie boppers that are in our Special Forces. They are arguably our very Best and Brightest and are not mentally unstable Rambo's. I GUARANTEE that if either the Seals or the Delta Force is pinned down in a firefight where they are taking damage both would be thrilled to see the other team come to their rescue.
Now go outside and play or go to school.
Your are wrong imrightnotyou, I picked up a copy of the book just yesterday at Costco, lol! The book is out, knucklehead! lol
Obama is pissed because 'his version' of the attack has now been revealed as a lie! There are no military secrets in the book or anything else that would put the military at risk!
Secrets revealed?
The military is using this book release as a platform of misinformation to the enemy.
The military is in complete control. The guy would vanish if it was any-other way.
Hey dumbdumb, My point is the military is using it as misinformation and are completely aware of it's content and might have had a hand in writing it, KNUCKLE-HEADED @*&@$$*@
Very sadly it has been released---yet it can still be pulled off the shelves as it should be.
Yes the author is a Seal and the book was most likely a mental Health healing action for him. Yet HE IS A SEAL and released some info that could put US at harm.
My apologies to the publisher who seeks only the excess bucks from such! Yet it was irresponsble to this country's safety to publish it at this time in history!
So this means that it was the Navy Seals leaking information all this time and NOT the White House...
I have to say, with all the glory and pride that goes along with being a Navy Seal, I hope this guy gets whats coming to him... To me, he a disgrace to his team...
Some people may be on to something here. I checked around and the books are just Flyin off the shelves. Its either that or they are using some Jedi Mind Trick so that we buy em ;)
There are sooooooo many books out on the SEALs and Special Forces. Go to Amazon and type in No Easy Day and watch what comes up:
The Easy Day Was Yesterday by Paul Jordan PUB:6/20/2012
Into The Fire: A Firsthand Account of the Most Extraordinary Battle in the Afghan War by Dakota Meyer and Bing West PUB: 9/25/2012 " For his actions on that day, Meyer became the first living Marine in three decades to be awarded the Medal of Honor." - ahem "borrowed from the book;) This looks amazing
The Red Circle - My Life in the Navy SEAL Sniper Corps and How I Trained America's Deadliest Marksman by Navy SEAL Sniper Head Instructor Brandon Webb, John David Mann, & Marcus Luttrell PUB: 4/10/2012
Gentleman Bastards: On the Ground in Afghanistan with America's Elite Special Forces by Kevin Maurer PUB: 09/04/2012
FEARLESS - The Undaunted Courage and Ultimate Sacrifice of Navy SEAL Team SIX Operator Adam Brown by Eric Blehm PUB: 05/22/2012
Horse Soldiers: The Extraordinary Story of U.S. Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan by Doug Stanton PUB: 05/11/2010 - I have this on order thanks to David475776's recommendation
Lions of Kandahar: The Story of a Fight Against All Odds by MAJOR Rusty Bradley & Kevin Maurer PUB: 06/28/2011 - "One of the most critical battles of the Afghan War is now revealed as never
before. Lions of Kandahar is an inside account from the unique
perspective of an active-duty U.S. Army Special Forces commander, an unparalled
warrior with multiple deployments to the theater who has only recently returned
from combat there.' - Excerpt "lifted" from the description
Operation Hotel California: The Clandestine War Inside Iraq by Mike Tucker & Charles S. Faddis PUB: 05/04/2010
My point being that there is a TON of information already out there. I also can't imagine No Easy Day giving out more "Secrets" - than The Red Circle's "How I Trained America's Deadliest Marksman. There is a boatload of other books and such on the subject as well.
Dear DoD, You want the proceeds? - LOL Bull.F.S. Knock it off.........the money was going to 2 Military CHARITIES to begin with.
Hahahahaha The VERY BRIGHTEST? Wow That shows how little you know about Special Forces Right There.....Persistent Yes..... Intelligent.....Not So Much!
Yep Just Like I said Howard The Dog......A Publicity Stunt For If The US Government Wanted This Book Gone It would Have NEVER Made It To The Press. And ANY Intelligent Person knows that!
BTW Seal means a Sea Going Mammal..... A SEAL is a Puffed Up NAVY Clown who has limited intelligence due to the Brain Damage brought about by Hypothermia You Stupid Arm Chair Egg Laying Hen And Once Again Just because L stands for LAND that doesn't mean to use Sea Trained Fighters 300 miles inside of Pakistan! Just ain't done at least not before this event.......
So basically I hope you feel better because your ignorance has leaked all over the Vines. As I said Magical Seals and based on Nothing But A Fantasy just like yourself!
Obama bin NOBODY.........Hahahahaha Right now pull my other finger!
@MUW,
You clearly have no idea what these highly trained men are capable of. Your argument sounds like I would trying to explain astrophysics to someone. You have no idea what you are talking about, and yet you seem to have yourself convinced that you do. When you see a SEAL, first you should thank them for what they do for you and this country. Secondly, never let one of them know that you were bad mouthing them or any other member of Special Forces. Just remember, people like the SEAL's are the reason you can hide behind your computer screen and pretend to be an expert. I love this one........ "Again Just because L stands for LAND that doesn't mean to use Sea Trained Fighters 300 miles inside of Pakistan! Just ain't done at least not before this event.......". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You're silly.
@MUW
My ONLY error was when reading your post I should have remembered my Twain: "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
Its obvious you have never seen what our Special Forces have to learn Child. I haven't talked to one in 25 years but the what impressed me the most is that he was NOT some big, dumb jock. Large yes and every bit as smart as my friends studying engineering & the sciences. Actually he struck me as smarter than my friend in Air Foce flight school.
One question.........Since I doubt that you can even spell PC how are you able to use one?
BTW - I ain't hard to find Princess ;)
Pentagon Papers
Blind Man's Bluff
None are fooled, Barry.
Hahaha Too Many Secrets? Like the new soon to be released Made For TV Oh Dark Thirty Movie Obama's White House has been working with the CIA Hollywood and the New York Times To "Beef Up" I ain't got NOBODY Obama's Emaciated Image?
Hmm well I guess even a Work of Fiction can divulge a secret or to but.........
Wake Up America all POMPUS Obama is trying to do is Back Door The Fantasy Of Bumbling Barry's I got USA bin NOBODY nonsense because if they raise the claim People will once again demand "Proof" where there is none!
Remember Back Door Barry was about to be Impeached Over Libya and that is the ONLY reason for this story at all...Magically the Impeachment Story Disappeared Almost as Fast as those Magical Seals did after the fact!
Fine you want to believe in Fairy Tails & Fantasies So be It But The Rest Of US Demand The Proof That Extraordinary Claims Require since there has been NOTHING so far but Smoke & Mirrors with Lies and More Lies from Barry Bush-Wacker since the Day He Took Office!
NOBODY just one more reason to Refuse To Re-Elect ANY UN Incumbent in November be they Democrat or Republican because they were all in on this SCAM.
Psst It's Time get Your Money Out Of Wall Street As Fast As Possible The Euro-Banister-Collapse Engineered By Wall Street Is Coming Soon!
Soros & Forbes pulled out already!
1. Sell your honor and integrity for money.
2. Embarass the SEALs and give the SEALs a bad name.
3. Leak your nations secrets for the world to see.
4. ???
5. Profit
Are you talking about Obama giving Kathryn Bigelow access to classified material for her Bin Laden movie? Oh, I thought so.
Tubal22
1. Sell your honor and integrity for money.
2. Embarass the SEALs and give the SEALs a bad name.
3. Leak your nations secrets for the world to see.
4. ???
5. Profit
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Duuuuuh. Sell United States secrets for political purposes. Classified leaks by a Senior White House official:
"Leak you nations secrets for the world to see" and for political purposes coming straight from someone in this administration.
But watch, nothing will happen to the Senior White House official but the DOJ will target the SEAL for Federal Court proceedings.
To..Ido..."""
Who told you those leaks came from Obama...
This ain't the bush administration...
They get their info from the tea party
Truthbesold : get over yourself, and don't be silly
It may be that he is judged & punished by a jury of his peers. The SOF are not known for suffering fools gladly.
Come on Liberals, Watch the videos of an Acorn insider and tell me who is corrupt.
Part I -- http://www.youtube.com/embed/3CmkbShVqNA?feature=player_embedded
Part II -- http://www.youtube.com/embed/gy6odnqyLeU?feature=player_embedded
You left out the part about using the book of lies to influence an election (hopefully the voters aren't that dumb, but some definitely are judging by these comments), and meddling in politics, using your uniform to play party politics which is illegal and unpatriotic. Not only money is at stake, but pandering to the extreme right wing fascists that have taken over the Rpeublican Party and playing right along with them.
No one is going to do anything to this hero. Seals have written books in the past and will continue to do so. The problem is the "what really happened" scenario. One version we got from pretty much everyone in the White House the day of and after. Now, we have the real story or as close as he can come without compromising tactics and the safety of his teammates. No one knows the story of how he "retired" with only 16 years in the Navy. No one knows why he left. Rumors are flying. Read the book, make your own judgements, but do not dare challenge the mans integrity and loyalty to this nation if you do not have what it takes to put on the uniform and put yourself in harms way to protect this nation. Crawl back under your rocks and live under the protection of these warriors and those like them.
Service men, FBI, and CIA agents have been writing books about their exploits since, well, forever.
There seems to be a lot of judgements made in these comments, when no one has read the book yet.
So, if Obama gave a false account of what happened, how is it that he leaked classified info?
Tubal22
To bad that taking all the profits from the book won't hurt anyone except the families of dead service members or disabled veterans. That is where all the proceeds are reported to be going! And as for chastising seals for work out videos, the Navy is the pot calling the kettle black! On the MILITARY CHANNEL there is a show called B.U.D.S which follows a class of SEALS through their training. It was approved by the DOD and the Navy to be shot and aired to the public! Leave this "former" Navy SEAL alone. A bunch of idiots support Julian Assange for publishing information from classified US documents on the internet, yet others are condemning a real hero for telling the truth.
The SEALS gave themselves a bad name by disrespecting THEIR Commander-in-Chief...AND, I would have said the same thing if Bush had been president...only when a Democrat is in the WH do those in the military feel they can break ALL the rules and show how truly undisciplined and political they are...McCrystal comes to mind...Obama should have fired him AND taken all his benefits away...Bush would have...Bush said to the American people, "You are either with us or against us" and went on to treat a military mom in the most abhorant way, just because she didn't feel the wars were a good thing...
you are exactly right , you do mean the fact that the president had leaked this info first.
This seal is a hero he was there not any of yours or the presidents f**k*** A*s*s so stfu
I guess no one on this subject saw the evening news w/ the shot of Hilary, who then released the footage
Santa or the easter bunny
Portia-Are you high? Seriously!! Your memory of the events surrounding Cindy Sheehan are rather skewed. President Bush the most powerful man in the world actually met with her and entertained her nonsense. Sorry while her son is a hero she is a disgrace!!!!!!!!! I served in the Marine Corps and saw combat and had my family member acted like she did I would have been spinning in my grave. President Bush was beyond indulgent with her.
Jerkoffgolf, WTF are you rambling about? I got a headache after reading about 20 of these outlandishly idiotic rightwingnut posts. Gotta be about as mentally incompetent as possible to actually come up with this crap, and more stupid to really believe it.
Wow, Karl Rove and Rush Lintballs really got their talons into alot of mindless idiots.
Any Navy Seal should know by now that only the Obama administration is allowed to leak intelligence information. As if the landing of a drone in Iran was a mistake. The Obama administration has been on a quest to remove as many advantages the nation has held militarily by leaks or battlefield mishaps. But Seals are not allowed to do the same since they don't have Eric Holder covering their backs.
It's OK for the White House to leak information about the Iranian nuclear program and how exactly they disrupted it, but a book about the Bid Laden raid is out of bounds. I think they're BOTH out of bounds. Funny how the "media" has let the White House leakers off the hook, way way more important that this "Seal" book. Somebody in that West Wing war room is a traitor for leaking that information which should NEVER have been leaked, but the media is owned by the left, nothing new about that, with MSN leading the way.
If you are, at all, interested in the truth, go to www.politifact.com. If, after perusing the truth behind the lies, you still stand by your comments then you are nothing but a traitor yourself.
What really bothers me about people who think like you ie.- the republican party, is that a MAJORITY of the citizens of the United States elected President Obama and the republicans\racists are doing everything in their power to nullify that majority decision. I call that Traitorous. What do you call it?
That is not an example of true democracy but instead nothing better than what you see in un\underdeveloped nations like Africa and the middle east.
Yes, the majority elected Barack Obama. Fortunately, our forefathers saw to it that there were three branches of government, not just the Executive branch. Because we don't have a Democratic (majority rule) government, rather a Republic (or representative) government, when it is perceived that one branch isn't doing their job, we can elect individuals to stop or limit the alternate branch(es). In 2009, like it or not, the people did not like the "job" Obama was doing and sent representatives in to do what they thought was correct, including and limiting Obama's policies from being enacted.
If I'm a traitor for being allowed to vote a representative in that will act/vote in a way I desire as a US citizen, then you've missed the entire point of why the founding fathers set our government up the way they did.
Bentbrass, BINGO!
"true democracy" is just mob rule. I'm so sick of EVERYONE, from the media, to this President and this Congress referring to "our democracy", we live in a Republic where individual rights are protected from Democracy (aka mob rule). Half this country needs to take a Civic's class. A nation of idiots.
Propaganda.
There is no real classified info. This is a technique used to give this book credibility to hide the fact that Bin Laden has been dead for years prior to this. Plus Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll and 9/11 was obviously staged by anyone but Saudi's with box cutters. The trail goes on...
Remove your foil hat and return to the sanatarium.
Ridicule is used all the time to discredit any ideas that are not state generated. So you sir, take off your rose colored glasses and open your eyes.
And that's why they did the burial at sea, which was contrary to tradition, where he was killed.
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You can all take your pills and go night-night now. No more outrageous conspiracy talk for you or mommy and daddy will spank you.
When you say stuff like that, why do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
You are so full of ^%$
You are a dumb a$$!
Prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. He broke his contract, his word and has acted in a selfish and greedy manner. Disgusting, poor example and most of all he has broken faith with his service. Shameful. I hope this book never see's the light of day.
Unfortunately, the article is stating that the book is being allowed to be public even after announcing that there is sensitive material that is in the book. They wouldn't say what, but they are still allowing it to be put on the shelf.
I wish somebody in the Attorney General's office or Pentagon or whoever rules this particularly fiasco would grow a backbone, arrest and prosecute the bastard before a military tribunal. Take all the bookx that exist and destroy them, then excecute the slime and bury hiim in a casket with the torn up pages of his lying and disgusting book for a pillow.
why no admonition for members of the administration which has released truly classified information about SEAL operations? Of course the DOJ will attempt to prosecute this man and take his monetary profits, that what Democrats do to all of us.
A contract is a civil, not criminal matter. The release of classified info is criminal, but not pnishable by death. It will be interesting to see if he is even charged, because most of what he has written has been released by the Obama administration already. Lil' Debbie might do Dallas but is a bloodthirsty moron.
No different than any of you if you had a life to write about. Losers!!
Uh, Kids. They would prosecute him if they had a leg to stand on. They don't~
It won't see daylight on my bookshelf. I served and took my oath seriously as well as having given my word to keep my work secret. The man is a disgrace to the Navy. But then that Seal (intentional misspelling) movie was wrong too. I guess it is now wrong and out of style to live up to you word and honor your sworn oaths.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. More of my anger is towards the people who buy this stuff. They should know better too. Let me read about it 25 or 50 years from now if I am still around.
Any Navy Seal should know by now that only the Obama administration is allowed to leak intelligence information. As if the landing of a drone in Iran was a mistake. The Obama administration has been on a quest to remove as many advantages the nation has held militarily by leaks or battlefield mishaps. But Seals are not allowed to do the same since they don't have Eric Holder covering their backs.
Rick do you have to keep repeating yourself to convince yourself or do you just like to see your mindless dribble in print? Troll.
Allowing "Mark Owen" to go unpunished will only jeopardize future mission and the lives of our troops. How can any mission be secret if everyone involved feels free to write a book and make a buck from it?
It is still undecided as to what will happen to "Mark Owen", but they are already suggesting (and most likely giving the okay) that the government takes all profits the book generates.
The government wants this to quietly go away, believe me. The Obama administration got out a little too far out in front of this when the raid first happened. They released too much information too quickly and now somebody is cashing in on the same public thirst for this stuff. If the government takes any action against the author (squashing the book's publication or seizing the profits) they are going to wind up in court and whatever they wanted to keep secret will come out into public view during the discovery phase of the trial. Of course the government will try to claim protection of classified material, it'll come out or there will have to be a mistrial. It's as simple as that.
Wow,
If the government knows you have a few dollars, they will find a way to get them. They figure this seal will be easy pickings for easy money. Its all about the money. They know that cant get any from Obama.
Maybe it will help pay down the deficit. All the fools who would buy this book deserve to lose their money on an obscene travesty like this, then see it all go toward the deficit created by their heroes, the Republican adminjistration of GW BUsh and Co.
How can SEALs be expected to follow orders if they know that when theoperation is over the Administration will immediately leak the information if it supports them politically?
Get out of your fantasy worlds. The government cannot take the profits and there is a very good chance that the majority of the profits will go to the Seal Foundation and the families of his teammates who were lost in the helo crash last year. They will not prosecute and have all of this info drug out in court.
Please it's " SEAL" All Caps, k?
Thank you tom wise. Most US Citizens (92%) NEVER Served and don't even know what that acronym even means (without looking it up).
Still waiting for President Obama to Full Fill his Verbal Contract (Campaign Promise) to decrease the numbers and lengths of Deployments of the 1% of US Citizens currently Serving in the US Military (note: of the 1% Serving the US Military, only 3% of the US Military are US Military Asymmetric Warfare (aka Special Warfare)). Candidate Obama's stated solution was instating the Selective Service and or Mandatory Compulsory US Military Service to Force the 92% of US Citizens that have Never Served as, "US Military Service is a Civic Duty" and "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement". Based on President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered April 2009 Defense Budget Cuts of the USAF and USN, that means no cush USAF Jobs on a secure USAF Base, nor being 1,000s of miles at sea with the USN (safe with 3 hot meals a day), so all of these "Draftees" will be with the US Military Ground Combat Forces of the US Army and USMC (including women).
Lil' Debbie,
Stick to sh!t you know about, baking twinkies, cupcakes, etc..
By doing all this all they are doing is Publizing this book and making more want to buy.
This Administration should have just done what President Bush and other Presidents did with other Books, neither confirm nor deny. Then those books end up as either little known or eventually no longer in print. Like what we (not you Lil' Debbie, Sara Rose, President Bush, etc.) did:
Horse Soldiers: The Extraordinary Story of a Band of US Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arxKhJIjIiY
Operation Hotel California: The Clandestine War Inside Iraq
(Unclassified) Facts versus fiction: 2002 (not 2003) Operation Hotel California was to allow us to eliminate the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Al Quada, Jihadists that escaped us at Afghanistan October 2001 (above, Horse Soldiers) after the 9/11 2001 Attacks and fled to Northern Iraq and became Ansar Al Islam. In 2002 President Bush pushed for a US Law to allow us to do so, US Law 2002 Iraqi War Resolution for us to conduct 2002 Operation Hotel California. Ansar Al Islam escapes us before we can completely eliminate them after the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran gives them Islamic Sanctuary. Later the Mission was changed to accomplish President Clinton's US Law, H.R. 4655, "Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction (NOT BUSH) and Section 3 as US Policy the Overthrow of President Hussein as US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom, 2002 we prepare for the 2003 US Military Conventional Warfare Forces Liberation of Iraq.
Of course most of you never read either of the above. Now let's talk about President Obama's Transparency Policy. Hypocrites during President Bush screaming Dubya, Shrub, Runt, etc. getting all upset foaming at the mouth yelling Disrespect, Treason when the News Media us "Mr. Obama" instead of President Obama. And during President Bush saying "Right To Know", "Freedom of the Press", "Constitutional Rights", "Transparency", blah, blah, blan, etc. and now look at all you hypocrites.
David457... we all get amnesia when we get exactly what we ask for and realize it 'ain't' what it cracked up to be. You hit the nail on the head. America SCREAMS for transparency, more info, blah blah blah and when they get it? The President is traitor among other vile words. The SEAL has NOTHING to with politics and everything to do with his obligations. When you are in the military you are apolitical EXCEPT when you PRIVATELY go to cast your vote. Whoever is in that office is your boss like it or not. They need to take his money.
Any Navy Seal should know by now that only the Obama administration is allowed to leak intelligence information. As if the landing of a drone in Iran was a mistake. The Obama administration has been on a quest to remove as many advantages the nation has held militarily by leaks or battlefield mishaps. But Seals are not allowed to do the same since they don't have Eric Holder covering their backs.
It baffles me that the Pentagon and Department of Justice are crying foul about sensitive and classified info being in this book and available to the public, but does nothing to keep it getting into the public's hands. Weren't they the ones saying that such info would prove harmful for future missions and tactics? Now they are allowing the book to be available to anyone and taking the money. Something is seriously wrong here.
I'm getting just as disgusted with the Pentagon and DOJ people who bitch and moan about this book and then take absolute no steps to do anything practical about it to prevent its dissemination. Coud it be they are afraid of Grover Norquist and the rabid slavering Karl Rove contingent from America's latest tratorous party, the Epublicans.
I see Lil' Debbie in this crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_j4c7Bop0
What next Lil' Debbie, instead of baking twinkies, cupcakes, etc., You are going to bake a few Jews.
Don't worry just like US Citizens are demanding that we (US Military) be mindless "Just Following Orders" Robots, under President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts we will grab your arse and preemptively detain you. President Obama shown during a staged news media event January 22, 2009 signing his Patriot Acts below link, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:
Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE
And that preemptive detention will be indefinitely with President Obama's 2012 NDAA with NO trial nor Legal Representation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gstBozWfhQ
Sold out his country, his fellow SEALS, his honor -- all for the money -- if the military doesn't press charges there will be no holding back on what material gets published....
Old news, So what? Oh, right no one has leaked classified information before, I'm sorry.
FylOverMe: You sound like someone that has never served and doesn't know the first thing about what that takes or what it takes to defend a nation. But I'd bet my home that you are voting Democrat and for an administration that has had more leaks that have caused more damage than any US administration in history. I'll take that bet anyday.
To..Sane""""
Nobody leaked more or caused more damage to this country than the bush administration ..nobody
Amunkaka.
There is a citation required for your proof.
You have none.
Amunaka$$ : really ? you on some type of medication?
Glen There is no medication for AMUNAKA-Because there is just no cure for stupid.
Whats the difference? the CIC was blabbing about OBL raid last summer....Hell, if POTUS can revea secrets, then why can't a seal?
Every SEAL.... took an oath...to honor till death!
Amunaka. You are absolutely right!
What the hell is Classified? You would think that Julian Assange is currently working at the White House?
What's so secret about killing Bin Laden? The Pentagon ought to chill. It's over and done with. What's the big deal? Get over it. Are they afraid, they aren't making any money?
arizonaron69-3593297 there is quite a bit that was classified released about this mission already. I haven't read the book (yet), but any information about technique to and from the raid, the number of personnel, the make-up of the force, techniques used at the site, abilities to destroy equipment...I think you get the point, there's a lot that shouldn't be discussed, at all.
Opponents have a sense for our capabilities, tactics, equipment and personnel. But telling them the sequence of decisions related to actions and the results, gives the enemy not only pages out of your playbook (to use a sports analogy), but it reveals your thinking and decision making. Keep in mind that what you do, says a lot about what you can't do.
Maybe the bad guys think they know something, you telling them what they shouldn't know may confirm their suspicions or make them look at their weaknesses in a way they hadn't before. A quick story...the Americans developed a research platform...a supersonic bomber...the Valkyrie. The Russians saw it as a new threat and developed a whole air defense system that they couldn't afford to defend against a single bomber...it was a great deception, the US never intended to develop the B-70 into an actual delivery system, but if the Russian had known that, well you get the picture.
If anyone has to ask this question, any answer is beyond their scope of comprehension.
Knowing that we killed him isn't important. Knowing how we did, is.
Where you even around then. The B-70 Research eventually resulted in the B-1. Do not even tell me you know anything, your posts are just indicating your ignorance (NO Experience). Everyone ever since Vietnam started to realize just how stup!d high altitude Strategic Bombing was ever since before 1965 Operation Rolling Thunder, especially SAC. As far as the USSR they already had defenses against High Altitude as proven by the Gary Powers Incident (1960).
Stop trying to be something you are NOT, RTColorado.
How could Obama be a traitor?
Well, before I was collapsed by the liberal jerks in here I could have told you.
Obama leaked the information himself AND even invited movie producers to the White House to share the information for a movie.
BUT, as the cards will fall, the movie will not come out until after he is gone.
So, there you have it.
It's fact, (just go ahead and collapse it again).
Liberals are running scared.
Piffle.
First, the President can de-classify any information he wants to.
Second, even if the administration lets a movie be made doesn't mean that the tactics in the movie are what was used. The information given most likely does not include the specific classified info. That would not be necessary for a movie.
The President does not have the authority to declassify anything he pleases. Why would anyone think that? The President has a different set of administrative powers than most but is subject to US law. And why would anyone suggest that the movie being made with the help of the administration contains no classified info just because it "that would not be necessary for a movie"? Perhaps you could tell us what is in the movie? But I expect you probably have not read the book, either.
Are you crying? Maybe less name calling on your part might help you a bit.
Not that I would collapse anyone, but I can see why some would find it compelling to do so.
Besides, what does being collapsed have to do with you not being able to tell somebody something? There is a button people can click to expand a collapsed post. Or is it that you can't back up your words?
Let me guess. You think 2016 is true and factual as well.
There are those tears again.
You're a liar and being foolish. It's a fact. <--- See what I did. I said it's a fact, so you can't deny it, correct?
The information does not have to be in the movie for there to be a breach. The information only has to be disseminated to people that don't have clearance to see the information.
Would you have equal concern if the WH or Obama had leaked information? If yes, then you should be outraged, if not, then you're just playing politics by blaming Owens for something the WH has already done.
Excerpts taken from Judicial Watch press release.
Do you think the President should be ousted or charged with treason?
This is not about classified info, this is about selling out the Seals, and military to make a buck. So one guy is getting all the reward from an operation that took 100's of people over years.
I support going after this guy, he sold out the military and code of honor. His colleges hate him over it. His life has now entered a new chapter and he will wish it had not.
I would rather see a Navy Seal get some cash, Than Obama taking all the credit after him and his staff leaked info, Obama even gave out the whistle blowers name, He is still rotting in a Paki Prison?
Except for the Fox Ditto Heads,the president has received credit for making the gutsy call to proceed.He never took credit for the successful operation.So don't spread misinformation..Fox does it all the time, that's reason Hooter's Fox has very little credibility...Fair and Balanced??????
Good post, Bill. President Obama has never taken all of the credit for the taking out of Bin Laden. He uses the term "we" a lot and talks about how "we took out Bin Laden". I think he means the American people when he uses "we". I think that it irks a lot of people that President Obama finished what President Bush, for whatever reason, didn't.
That's an "Imperial We", Queens and Editors can be excused, but the President of the United States should refrain from including himself/herself into a particular military action. It puts the presidency in the award position of equating himself with the soldiers who actually participated. If the President claims we for everything that goes right, does he have to share in what goes wrong, I mean we lost a multimillion helicopter and failed to destroy vital equipment that was revealed to the Chinese. Balanced against the gain, it was worth it, maybe...but the President should maintain a little more distance between himself, the office and real-time events. It's just a wise thing to do.
Initially, after the raid, Mr. Obama used the I word on many occasions. Go back and listen to some of his statements and speeches.
RT
That's just your opinion. Heads of state use the royal 'we' all the time. The President of the United States certainly qualifies as a head of state.
Did you read or hear the speech? He gives full credit to those who participated in the raid, those who gathered the information, but did take credit for giving the order, as he should have. By giving that order he put his entire career on the line. Had the raid failed he most certainly have been 'punished' like Carter, ie not re-elected. The easy call would have been to NOT make the call. Not to mention the damage done to international relations.
This is not about Obama. For the record Obama gets my vote hands down, period.
He got the job done, Bush took it OFF the table! It was a target of opportunity for Bush, it was a mission to avenge the deaths of 3,000 + people and countless US service members lives and give Americans closure for Obama.
Shaun,
Do a little research for Christ's sake! The proceeds are not going to one man , but to charities that help the families of killed or disabled vets!
dsb - I applaud the President and his staff for the decision that was made to move ahead with the raid that killed bin Laden, but clearly there is plenty of credit being taken in the administration over this. Perhaps you might watch some of the Democratic convention this week where praise is being heaped upon the President personally for it.
bmack945... who is the PRESIDENT? thus the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF? Making him the BOSS?! Until President Obama leaves office, it is his military! I know it is a hard pill to swallow, so crush it and drink it down with some juice. HE is in charge. Bush took credit even when there was none to take and you all rode that friggin' trojan horse! Leave the man alone.
And Fox noise made this guys I.D. public.. Those are some Great Americans that you have over there Hannity. Prosecute Fox for putting this guys life in danger.
Climb off of the media wagon and start doing your own research.
You do have the internet.
Wow I did not know Fox was privy to State secrets and Classified Information? You been off of maybe the Wagon?
He put his own life on the line when he wrote the book. I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.
Janine 1645002. Lady, that man put his life ON THE LINE every day FOR YOU. and you have the guts too say some @!$%# like that. Next time you need someone too defend YOU and YOUR life, call someone else or GO do it YOURSELF. From a former S.E.A.L. KISS MY A$$
The other members of Seal Team Six be really proud of him..
perhaps hes the writer and the others are co-authors. They were probably all fed up with the I killed Osama talk coming out of the whit house. I would love to shake the mans hand myself rather than have a beer with the commander in chief.
Just one question, does it give any different information out that the obama white house allowed a movie producer to have.
Yes. The book does indeed offer our enemies an inside look at some of the Seals tactics.
Willard last week said when it comes to a woman's life abortion is permissible.Yesterday,under pressure from the right, Flipper Mitt caved in....
bs, whether it does contain inside info or not, the pentagon will go after this guy because they dont like their lies and propoganda exposed
Go after him? If this book actually contained any classified info he would already be in a cell with Bradley Manning and his publisher would have been taken over. You cannot sell classified information, that is treason, so the fact that he is still walking around and this book is on shelves means that there is not a word of classified info in it.
They want the book out to expose all those pussies at the white house. This guy is home free and a job well done.
When the book's upcoming publication was announced a few weeks ago, I posed the question as to whether or not the S.E.A.L.S are required to sign some kind of confidentiality document etc. A couple of people responded and rather ardently, that the S.E.A.L.S. didn't sign anything and they were within their rights to say whatever. Now look what's happened.
I think your last sentence is totally wrong,respectively.......
Should have checked their IDs, Missy. Likely impostors.
The debriefing process for the degree of access afforded the SOF involves signing non-disclosure documents that are pretty explicit in the "thou shalt not" area.
They all signed expressly written documents stating they would not talk about any of the missions they have done, or will do.
This all could have been avoided if this troop did what he agreed to do when signing up for this mission.
Do they think we are retarded? Bradley Manning revealed "classified" information and he is locked up in Quantico for the foreseeable future, yet they want us to believe that this book contains classified information, yet they are going to let it be published? If anything in this book was classified it would be a Federal offense to publish it, not exactly something they just "let slide". In reality this book is simply a psychological manipulation being performed on the American people. By allowing its release, but claiming it contains classified information people will assume that what it claims happened is what actually happened.
If you think this sounds outlandish then ask yourself how plausible it is that the most wanted man in the world managed to survive in a third world country for 11 years while his kidneys were failing, then was shot in the head by a Navy Seal, then dumped him in the ocean. Then the Navy Seal writes a book about it that contains "classified" information, but the DOD is going to let him publish it and make millions of dollars off of it, which by definition is selling classified information, which is treason. Yeah that sounds totally realistic.
It's not a crime until you publish. In this country one would hope that you are not imprisoned because someone says you are going to commit a crime. Once published the crime has been commited and in this case with knowledge that you are comminting a crime. There is already precedence for legal proceedings against someone that has published classified information but it can be difficult to prosecute criminally. Just examine the Bush admin outing of Valeria Plame. It is easier to sieze the profits just like in many states that seize the profits from felons exploiting their crime.
Actually, sir, unauthorized disclosure of classified material is a crime. That happened before publication.
I guess if ther is no classified info , there is no crime. So the govn cant take the money. At least legally. I guess they could pass a new tax on military books. They just love taxes
You actually have to disclose for it to be a crime and here it's obvious DOD is only concerned with the published book. Not too sure the fuss from the Special Warfare Commanding Officer. Big Navy approved participation in Act of Valor! Really doubt this book will disclose information that isn't already known or previously disclosed. Probably the worst this guy has done is just putting himself out there; doesn't really reflect the character of the SEAL community...if you have ever met a SEAL they seem like the most average person you have ever met!
poppacharlie,
for your reference or anyone else who actually wants to know about classifed information and how it is handled in this country:
look up: wiki Classified information in the Unites States
I would include the link but this thread deletes links
This country is not Britain with an Official Secrets Act.
This thread doesn't delete links.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/05/old-oil-washes-up-in-la-after-hurricane-isaac/?test=latestnews
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/05/new-jersey-mom-grandmother-tackle-man-who-attempts-to-toss-boys-in-front-train/?test=latestnews
If it did, links from its biggest rival wouldn't be allowed, would they?
Read the posting policies that you agreed to when creating an account.
i don't care about anything as far as Bin Laden goes just that hes dead. that's it. i don't need to know. as far as the Navy Seals go for what they have been doing lately i don't have any respect for those who have been acting like big shots and shooting off their mouths. i could say they don't seem special any more. if they wanted to be big shots they should have gotten into the movies instead of the military.
Most reasonable post on the blog tony, all these other people with their made up facts and figures have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, It seems as if they just make it up as they type.
What's the big deal with this story? It's already been published...check it out:
Seal Target Geronimo, the inside story of the mission to kill Osama Bin Laden, by Chuck Pfarrer. ISBN-13: 978-1-4272-1759-2
It's told by the former assault element commander of SEAL Team Six, after talking to the members of the team involved.
I don't see his story being all over the internet news sites.
This who issue maybe in response to the over politicalization of this administration in trying to take too much credit for the killing of UBL. The hunt for UBL well preceeded this administrations' effort to take credir, yes Prez Obama ordered the mission, but it took years of these silent professionals (SEALS, INTEL community, etc,) to get to the point of executing the mission, and NONE of Obamas political appointees and hacks had NOTHING to do with UBL's demise- Maybe this book is an attempt to get the record right without the political obfuscation this administration loves to do. I will read it and make my determination ( PS-I was part of this military for almost 30 years). If this administration tries to prosecute this man, then he may have a pretty good defense by saying that a number of classified leaks on ths mission are DIRECTLY tied to Prez Obama's staff...