Mom, 52, chases intruder out of house, pins him down

A mother in Connecticut shows WVIT's Todd Piro how she chased, tackled and pinned down a would-be burglar who threatened her family. 

A Connecticut woman confronted an intruder, chased him out her her home and held him down until police arrived.

Pauline Bragg, 52, was in her Willimantic home on Sunday night when she noticed a man inside.

“I looked and there's this guy, this big shadow standing there with a flashlight,” Bragg said.

The suspect, identified by police as Ramon Rivera, ran out of the house with Bragg right behind him.
               
“I didn't think, 'I'm going to decide to go chase him.' It was a reaction, you know,” said Bragg.
               
According to Bragg, who is the mother of a teenage boy, the chase continued into the backyards of three other homes.

“We got in a scuffle. He picked up a two-by-four and hit me,” Bragg said, still nursing bruises from the altercation.

As Bragg pinned Rivera down, she called out to neighbors for help, but said no one offered to assist her.
               
“I looked right at them and said, 'Get over here and help me.' And you know, nobody wants to get involved,” Bragg said.

Some neighbors called 911, and police arrived and took Rivera into custody. According to Bragg, Rivera told police that he had not broken into her home, but that the two had been involved in a domestic dispute.

“All of a sudden, he said. 'I don't want to be with you anymore,' like trying to make it sound like it was domestic violence, like I was a crazy woman trying to keep her man,” said Bragg. 

Police quickly determined the two did not know each other.

Rivera is charged with second-degree assault, third-degree assault, second-degree burglary, third-degree criminal mischief and fifth-degree larceny. He is being held on $200,000 bond and is scheduled to be in court Sept. 28.

According to police, Rivera has 25 prior arrests.

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25 prior arrests?? What happened to the Habitual Offender charge? Connecticut has a Three Strikes Law. Why hasn't that been put to good use in this man's case?

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#1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

Seriously! I like how they slipped that in at the very end.

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#1.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

Wow her neighbors would not help?!?!? Anyone else here think that is screwed up???!!!???!!???

  • 164 votes
#1.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

@Rockyroad

Welcome to America!

  • 13 votes
#1.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

@Rockyroad- I would imagine she does't actually know the neighbors and they may not have known it wasn't a domestic situation. In a situation like this, if I didn't know the neighbor I wouldn't have helped either, simply because you are potentially putting yourself on the wrong side of the law.

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

A Connecticut woman confronted an intruder, chased him out her her home and held him down until police arrived.

I love this story... ☺

  • 33 votes
#1.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

Didn't want to get involved??!! Wake up America, this is the same reason we had the shooting at Ft. Hood, Jared Loughner, James Holmes, and others.

The person(s) who called 911 at the very least got the police involved. 25 prior arrests shows only Rivera is another example of someone who continually has slipped through the cracks.

  • 47 votes
#1.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

DANG! 25 priors? What the hell is wrong with Connecticut? 25? Good grief.

Oh if he had it me with a 2x4 - I would have found a great big rock.

We have gone over that PC bridge way too many times!

  • 28 votes
#1.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

There's no doubt this guy is a scumbag and a drain on society and it's infuriating that he is not already locked up, but unfortunately arrests are not the same as convictions. Additionally, the classification of the crime may be a factor - misdemeanor vs. felony. I routinely review background checks and only convictions can be considered.

  • 18 votes
#1.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:11 AM EDT
Comment author avatarTonyinWyoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Look at his name. That will answer your question. You don't mess will obammy voters.

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#1.9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:16 AM EDT
Comment author avatarTonyinWyoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Rockyroad-531554

Wow her neighbors would not help?!?!? Anyone else here think that is screwed up???!!!???!!???

Not really. She took responsibility for herself, and that is something you just DON'T do when you have democrat neighbors as they most likely were.

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#1.10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

Hey, Rocky, I agree with you. It's messed up that her neighbors didn't help. At least they called 911.

natedom, not all of us are that way. I understand people's reluctance to 'get involved.' Still, there are plenty of folks still out there that will not only help their neighbors, but who know and care about them as well.

It's high time we all agree to change some of those laws and protect innocent citizens instead of criminals.

Pauline, awesome job! Thanks for sending the message that we're going to fight back if you invade our homes. And we WILL do what is necessary to catch you and send you to jail!!

  • 21 votes
#1.11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

Unfortantely, arrests are not convictions, although you would have to think there were a couple in there.

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#1.12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

That is what you call motherly instincts for sure. Pauline is a brave woman. However, this could have turned out really badly for her. I'm glad it didn't. Next time, just call the police and keep your distance from bad people. You never ever know how desperate or crazy they are.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

As a coward, you must die a thousand deaths every day!

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#1.14 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

dam! good for her!52 and running through yards,hit with a board and she still got him.love these stories.

  • 22 votes
#1.15 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

Excellent story. I love to hear when a victim turns the tables unexpectedly on a perp. Especially a woman against a seasoned scumbag perp dude. Heh heh.

25 prior arrests kind of give it away that a woman can take down a man after being whacked by a 2 x 4. It leans toward the fact that he can't fight anyway and gives up.

If my wife were like this woman, I wouldn't worry so much when she's out shopping etc...

She sure has some "Bragg-ing" rights now!

What kind of pisses me off here is that nobody would help her. WTF is wrong with people. If it were me looking out at this, it would give me a great opportunity to kick the @!$%# out of a perp before cops got there. It's been awhile.

  • 33 votes
#1.16 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

Don't mess with momma bear! Way to go mom!

  • 21 votes
#1.17 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

With all those priors I would expect he should receive a life sentence, but then we'll have some bleeding heart lawyer plead that the nature and scope of his crime doesn't deserve a life sentence, completely ignoring the 25 prior arrests that I assume resulted in at least a few convictions. I wonder if he's one of those illegals that enjoys Connecticut's sanctuary mentality which would explain why he isn't already in prison.

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#1.18 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

I find it disgusting that some of you find it acceptable that the neighbors saw this happening and didn't get involved. Even if it were a domestic dispute - don't you think once someone saw him hit her with a 2x4 that they might get involved? I fear for the safety of my wife and future kids with spineless people like you in this world. Get a pair, drop the PC business, and do what's right. This woman did.

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#1.19 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

This wonderful woman needs to post a sign in her front yard: My neighbors are cowards. Don't worry, they won't do anything. They've already proved what they are.

Good for her for taking down this thug!

Trolls: Why must you insert your inane remarks about politics? I guess that's what makes you trolls.

  • 26 votes
#1.20 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

He wouldn't have been able to run out of my house. My 44 is for home defense and I'm not afraid to use it. It's about time we start fighting back against these thugs who think they can just walk into our homes and help themselves.

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#1.21 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

Wow. 25 prior offenses and this guy is still alive? I'm surprised someone hasn't taken him out yet.

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#1.22 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

With neighbors like that who needs relatives. LMAO!!!! I would put a sign in my yard saying None of my neighbors have weapons please help yourself, I will not use mine to deter. Neighborly love!!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.23 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

Why hasn't that been put to good use in this man's case?

because the judicial system is a joke.

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#1.24 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

Good Job Girl!

SHAME ON ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS THO! Sure hope that they never need another's help and have the other turn away too.

SHAME ON THEM!

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#1.25 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

“All of a sudden, he said. 'I don't want to be with you anymore,' like trying to make it sound like it was domestic violence, like I was a crazy woman trying to keep her man,” said Bragg.

------- This guy should get a reduced sentence based on that alone. Hilarious.

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

I dont think it was that the neigbors were democrats....because republicans are just as bad! They both are corrupt, uncaring, lying, fake, selfish people! (I've sided with republicans for 19 years...no longer)

The problem is there is NO unity in America! For example, in other countries, people stand together! There is a sense of nationalism. Here in the States...we stood together for 20 minutes on 9/11...then lashed out at other Americans who appeared different (indian, arab, middle eastern). We choose who we feel are "acceptable" Americans..and they need to appear as white clean cut people! If they appear any different, we want their heads on a stick!

With that said, these neighbors were probably thinking..."You're on your own". Its sad!

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

Even if the neighbors did not want to help restrain the dirbag, they could have come out and simply stood with her. While I am glad she is alright, I am certain she is disappointed to learn that she lives among cowards. You cannot allow scum to enter your homes without fear! If you steal from my neighbor you are stealing from me!

  • 9 votes
#1.28 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

Glad it worked out for her, sometimes it's the dangerous thing to do. I get it though, because she stated she didn't have time to think, she just reacted. These punks / thugs will soon learn that we are damn tired of this nonsense. My 9MM makes me equal to any man should he get the silly arse notion maybe I have something he thinks is his for the taking.

About a week ago, about 15 miles away, there were 3 idiots who decided to break into the home of a 90 yr old war veterans' home. Kicked in the door to the basement & proceeded to climb the stairs. Well Mr. Veteran was at the top of the steps with his rifle & just started firing away. All 3 cowards fled, of course. The police came & about a half hour later they found a car parked about a couple miles away with the 3 guys in it. One was dead, took a hit & bled all the way out of that basement. The other two were just in shock, and in need of some new underwear! The interview with the Vet was priceless, he held nothing back as to what he thinks about where this country is heading. Oh, & he also looked at the camera & said..... Now, anyone else out there who wants to kick my door down, bring it on, I'll be waiting.

  • 11 votes
#1.29 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

Way to go dear...kicked his ASS! I'll bet her kid doesn't get out of line much.

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#1.30 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

According to police, Rivera has 25 prior arrests.

20 arrests ago they should have walked this guy out behind the court house and put a bullet in his head.

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

How about deporting his sorry butt???

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#1.32 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

@2-sense - I realize there are still people who know their neighbors, I have lived in my house for all of 9 months and know my neighbors, if I were to see something happening to them or their property I would do what I could to stop it. However, if I see two people I don't know run through my yard, one chasing the other, I am not going to jump in and help the person who appears to have the upper-hand, simply because I do not know the situation. Would you feel the same way had it been two men you didn't know? Would you still then be calling the neighbors cowards? There are instances where women are very abusive towards men. Do you honestly believe you should simply jump in and help a woman simply because she is a woman, even if she appears to be beating a man?

  • 2 votes
#1.33 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

"Why must you insert your inane remarks about politics?"

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We're so glad U could attend.

Come inside. Come inside.♪♫

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

♪♫Baby, although I chose this lonely life

it seems it's strangling me now.

All the wild men, big cigars, gigantic car.

They're all laughing at the lie.

Oh, I've been used ohh

I've been a fool oh, what a fool.

I broke all the rules, oh yeah.

But I must let the show go on!♪♫

;-)

  • 3 votes
#1.35 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

"You don't mess will obammy voters."

♪♫Step right up! And don't B shy.

'Cuz U will not believe your eyes.

She's right here, behind the glass.

You're gonna like her, 'cuz she's got class.♪♫

;-)

  • 2 votes
#1.36 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

She was very foolish and lucky that she was not killed or hurt. Wait until the ACLU sues her and takes her house for assaulting the child!! Couldn't happen, google the business owner that was sued when a thief fell though a skylight. The perp could have been being initiated into a gang and no telling what or who was waiting around the corner. The toughest cop would not blindly chase a fleeing felon without being armed to the teeth. They will not even give you a ticket for J walking without a bullet- proof vest, 2 or 3 guns, a knife, tazzer, batton, and radio back-up!! Who would blame them.?? Like I said, you do not know what your are dealing with...Brain Terry was killed in such a way.

It would be great to know how long it took the cops to show up after being called....When need one, the police are only a donut and 30 minutes away!!

  • 1 vote
#1.37 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

Texas Grace, that's 25 arrests not convictions. Big difference. Anyone can be accused of a crime.

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#1.38 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

"Wait until the ACLU sues her and takes her house for assaulting the child!!"

Where does this article state the age of the perp? It mentions her age at 52 & her teenage son.....

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#1.39 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

I think Creek Dog said it all..... and thanks to most everyone else!

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#1.40 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Throw the book at him. No matter what ethnicity or Race he is. I am glad for this woman getting National attention. Now other criminal's know she will fight back. I live near a few older women. And if they needed help. You bet I would help. Its called responsibility. As a man we are supposed to step in. At least that is what my Hispanic Legal / Native American father taught me.

When I was a kid a neighbor was beating up his own mom. He had a knife as well. Had not used it yet. We all heard her scream for help. My dad ran across the street. Took the guys knife away. And beat the crap out the guy. While my Mom called the cops. I was young about the second grade.

When the cops got there they arrested the guy. And let my dad come right back home. Small town And a long time ago.

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#1.41 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

Safest and friendliest neighborhood I ever lived in was also the poorest, people from middle class and wealthier neighborhoods don't know how to interact, just look at all the articles about how our youth have no social skills.

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#1.42 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

As Bragg pinned Rivera down, she called out to neighbors for help, but said no one offered to assist her.

Sad situation. People don't want to get involved, then they call the cops (which of course people should do tho, whether they decide to help too or not), then they blame the cops when they make a mistake, and/or have to use violence against a criminal.

natedom

@Rockyroad- I would imagine she does't actually know the neighbors and they may not have known it wasn't a domestic situation. In a situation like this, if I didn't know the neighbor I wouldn't have helped either, simply because you are potentially putting yourself on the wrong side of the law.

You would see a man hitting a woman with a 2x4 but you wouldn't help? What difference does it make whether it was domestic violence or not? I was victim of domestic violence (he is now an ex), and I remember once I ran outside the house (with the ex running after me) and my neighbor got out of his house and was waiting on his porch the whole time in case he needed to help me. He wasn't afraid of "putting himself on the wrong side of the law". I will always be grateful to that man for this, eventho fortunately he didn't have to get involved as when the ex saw him he calmed down pretty quickly.

pixie1

Texas Grace, that's 25 arrests not convictions. Big difference. Anyone can be accused of a crime.

Get real. You may get arrested once or twice by mistake, but 25 times? Anyways, we know that he was arrested at least once for a good reason don't we?

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#1.43 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

Amen!!Patches Pal, You said it well....And you know what? I am a old Patches Pal too......J.P. taught us right from wrong.... .R.I.P. J.P......

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#1.44 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

If she posts a sign on her lawn about her neighbors non-action, as some posters recommend, they will go to court to get her to take it down.

I just hope that this time the intruder actually gets jail time. (We don't know how many of his 25 arrests ended with convictions.) Even if he had been romantically involved, as the perp claims, it seems like he had been banished from the home.

    #1.45 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

    3 strikes, your out in my state means violent crimes, not robberies. Of course, if he is convicted in this case, he should have strike one.

      #1.46 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

      You'd be surprised at how some people look at help , I was working on a job when I noticed a man kicking a large woman who was lying on the ground , when I went over and yelled at him to try to kick me like that the woman yelled at me and told me to mind my own goddamned business !! So I did ! dumb bitch !

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      #1.47 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

      It's too bad she didn't have a .45 close-by and before he got out the door he was filled with lead. I don't know about Conn. but in OK it would have been considered very legal. I too am disappointed that the neighbors (I don't care whether they knew her or not) didn't at least ask questions, and if American Communist Lovers Union attempts to sue her, I would hope the judge not only throws the case out but hits them with a hefty fine for tying up legal system.

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      #1.48 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

      Way to go mom. JP youth has never had social skills. Their either full of piss and vinegar or insecure wimps. But not to worry, they like us will grow up.

        #1.49 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

        Wanna bet on his immigration status? Bet a dollar against a doughnut hole he's an illegal.

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        #1.50 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

        She has no neighbors...just people who live nearby.

        • 2 votes
        #1.51 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

        Johnm-1308966

        You'd be surprised at how some people look at help , I was working on a job when I noticed a man kicking a large woman who was lying on the ground , when I went over and yelled at him to try to kick me like that the woman yelled at me and told me to mind my own goddamned business !! So I did ! dumb bitch !

        Good for you, and I salute you for trying to help. You did the right thing, but obviously that idiot didn't mind getting kicked. I just hope you won't conclude that all women would react that way, that was just a stupid one.

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        #1.52 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

        right-on, now if the(stupid) system do they're job, this guy will be putt away for some time,,, probably not long enough~!~!~! but maybe, so the next wont get killed or seriuosly injured~!~!~ and what happened to the attempted murder charge, that should be attached, he was apparently, trying cuz this ladt 52 yrs old and he using a 2x4!~! dam she should have used it on him,, save us all money in the long run,, and for the cowardly nieghbors, @!$%# they should of came out anyway,what this country comin to!~!~!~!if it was our nieghborhood, im sure lots would of came out, then, well hahah, everyone would of said poor guy~!~!~

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        #1.53 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

        hahaha yea you guys crack me up~!~ if i saw a man hitting a women 2x4 or bare hands i would kick his asssss regardless or at least try,, stupid people, remeber that when no ones helpin you some time if it happens to you ,god forbidd, butt think about it~!~!~!~!dont care if its domestic abuse or two strangers not right~!~stand up be a man or something...........

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        #1.54 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

        @Anna - it didn't say the neighbors saw her get hit by the 2x4, it said they had a scuffle in which he hit her with a 2x4, it also said she chased him through 3 neighbors backyards, where she tackled him, then once she had him pinned down she yelled for the neighbors to help her. It doesn't say she asked them to call the police, it doesn't say she told them he had broken into her house. It does say she chased him, tackled him, and had him pinned to the ground. Now, if it said they were scuffling back and forth or that he had hit her in view of the neighbors, or at anytime had seemed to have been in control or attacking her, then yes, I would say, they should have jumped in to help her. But that isn't what it says. As someone who almost lost an uncle due to domestic violence by a woman, no I don't think they should have immediately jumped in to her rescue, as it isn't a simple black and white scenario.

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        #1.55 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

        At Pixie, TWENTY FIVE TIMES?...You MUST be a Democrat.

          #1.56 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

          About 15 yrs ago.. I witnessed a boy on bike hit by a car - the car fled - I stopped the boy was apparently hit his head on the curb - so much blood... I've been trained in basic first aid and CPR - So I took my coat off and raised his feet felt for a pulse/breath and began CPR - started with a quick breath and went to the chest compressions - "crack" I cracked a rib I heard it I felt it... I continued until the ambulance got there... at least 25 people were standing around and noone offered to help.

          2 months pass and ohh look I got served - I'm being sued for cracking the boys ribs.. I was in tears I'd never been sued - I always thought there were good samaritan laws.. Jump to the end - Judge dismissed me in the lawsuit, because 1st there was no way to to prove that rib wasn't fratured before I cracked it and second in the Judges words "ms ....... you should be on you knees thanking this woman (me) or your son would be in the morgue!

          Helping made me feel great until I was sued.....

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          #1.57 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

          @ Lyndanne

          What a good person you are! It does seem to me that whenever an accident or crime happens a whole bunch of looky-loos show up hoping to see some blood and guts. This kid was lucky you cared enough to help. I can't imagine why the kid's low-life parents would try to get money out of the very person who saved their child's life. As a parent who would thank you forever if you saved my child's life, please don't let those greedy fools deter you from being such a good person. And if they didn't say it, I will.

          "THANK YOU!"

          • 3 votes
          #1.58 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

          For people saying why didnt they help her, if I saw someone chasing someone else, even if the person being chased hit her with a 2 X 4, I would think the person chasing was the culprit.

          For the domestic abuse criers, if she was being chased that would be one thing. She was chasing him so (if he didnt commit any crime) he would have every right to hit her with a 2 X 4. The neighbors didnt know who the aggressor was. The woman is not always the victim. Even though she was this time. lol

          • 1 vote
          #1.59 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

          MrBurns

          For people saying why didnt they help her, if I saw someone chasing someone else, even if the person being chased hit her with a 2 X 4, I would think the person chasing was the culprit.

          Yes she chased him, it was dangerous to do so, but she did run after a criminal and got him. She actually did her duty as a citizen, eventho it could have ended up badly for her. She had more b*** then some men I see posting here.

          Luckily I also see real men posting here.

            #1.60 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

            So let me get this straight:

            In the middle of the night you look out the window to see a woman and man fighting in your backyard. The woman tackles the man, pins him down and then starts screaming at the top of her lungs. And all of you would just go running over to help her assault this man WITHOUT question???????

            I CALL BULLSH!T ON ALL OF YOU!!!!

            Unless those of you who think you are so brave and "patriotic" (that was for the idiots who are blaming political parties) have some sort of psychic power which would have made you instantly know what was going on and who was the victim in that situation then you are all kidding yourselves.

            It was late, it was dark, there was a fight going on and I guarantee none of those neighbors would just know what was happening after only a few seconds of witnessing the confrontation.

            What if the intruder had actually been the victim? Then you would all be under arrest as an accessory to assault. Before jumping into the situation a reasonable person would ask what was going on.... if they even had time.

            It's always easy to assume you would do better when you've been given the information upfront. Her neighbors didn't have that same luxury. It doesn't take a genius to understand that perspective!!!

            • 1 vote
            #1.61 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

            @Lolly1192

            That's when you pick up your cell phone, call 911, then walk outside with a gun, and hold them both there till the cops show up, staying on the phone the entire time. Maybe even recording video. The victim won't try and leave, and the intruder is gonna sit there praying he doesn't get shot. It won't matter who is who. The moment you hear the cops show up, you put ur gun on the ground and step away from it while they sort things out.

            • 2 votes
            #1.62 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

            You do realize you would get arrested for holding 2 people at gun point, right? You can't point a gun at someone unless they've broken into your home or are trying to attack you.

            The police consider anyone who aims a firearm at an individual has intent to use it, which is why it is illegal to do so unless you are in fear of your life. Walking outside to where the disturbance is doesn't count as stand your ground, so you would be arrested.

            Either scenario your a$$ is getting arrested for getting involved if you pick the wrong party to side with. And it doesn't mean you are a terrible human being for not wanting to take that risk without all the info first.

            BTW - the neighbors did call 911

              #1.63 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

              Lolly1192

              You would sing a different song if you were the victim, getting beaten (or whatever else), called for help and no one would have the courage to help you. Calling 911 is obviously the first thing to do, but sometimes waiting for the police to get to the location may mean it will be too late for the victim.

              • 2 votes
              #1.64 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

              @Lolly1192

              You are allowed to use your gun in defense of another person. Considering a 2x4 in the hands of an adult can be considered a deadly weapon, stopping one of these folks from beating the other one with that 2x4 would be a legal use of your firearm.

              Also:

              "Under Connecticut law, a person may use physical force (self defense): to protect himself or a third person, his home or office, or his property; to make an arrest or prevent an escape"

              So it appears to me that holding 2 people at gunpoint is legal. Beating each other is assault, thus a crime in progress. You are simply stopping the crime and preventing the suspects from leaving the scene.

              • 2 votes
              #1.65 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

              And Lolly, you are welcome to stand back and watch events unfold from the safety of your kitchen window, however not all of us are like you. Some of us will intervene. I'm 39 and have it on several occasions. Most recently in a Safeway parking lot around 2002. I'm standing there in full uniform putting my stuff in my trunk and there is a couple screaming at each other 2 cars over. Then he hauls off and slaps the hell out of her. I take 3 steps, grab him by his pony tail and yank his ass backwards. He landed on his butt and sits there, and you know what happened? She starts yelling at me. All I could do was stand there and shake my head as they got in the car and left.

              But you know, even though the result wasn't what I expected, I'd still do it again. I'm not the type of person that's going to watch an event unfold without getting involved. If you have the ability, you have the duty to help.

              • 3 votes
              #1.66 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

              Chris from Yucaipa

              But you know, even though the result wasn't what I expected, I'd still do it again. I'm not the type of person that's going to watch an event unfold without getting involved. If you have the ability, you have the duty to help.

              Thank God there is still people like you, and I am glad that you would still help. I assure you that if it had been me I wouldnt have yelled at you, I would have thanked you with all my heart. I hate when women are such idiots (to all women who would react like the one you describe: it doesn't matter how much you love him, he's not supposed to hit you!!!! wake the heck up!!!), because of them people might decide not to help, but most of us would be grateful.

              Eventho that (dumb) woman yelled at you, I thank you and salute you for having the courage to intervene.

              • 1 vote
              #1.67 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

              @Anna - had the woman been being attacked and yelling for help the story would have been different, but that is not what happened here. What happened here was the woman was chasing the man, tackled and pinned him to the ground, then started yelling for help; while she was in a position of power. Like a few others have stated, the woman isn't always the victim

              • 1 vote
              #1.68 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

              @ Marty Thank you!... From what the police told me at the hearings.. they never did catch the car who hit the kid and his mom sued everyone right down to the ambulance drivers, and our streets department for not having sidewalks in the center of a divided hwy. That night was a disaster for me until that Judge yelled at the Mom... then I felt good about what I did.

              I don't think anyone can say for certain what they would do in every situation... I just hope for me personally I would help.

                #1.69 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                I am a woman...

                As for me...if I seen all of this take place, I would absolutely help the woman. I would call 911...and then I would help her hold him down until the police arrived and the story was sorted out. I would have helped...and while helping, asked her the story. I would not have struck or beat the man or let the woman continue to do so...but I would have restrained him until I knew what was going on.

                I don't believe that doing nothing is the answer here...no matter which one was truly the victim and which one was truly the perp.

                On a side note...if there was a gun involved...I would hide like a coward.

                  #1.70 - Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

                  And then you would go to prison 4Rudie4 if she turned out to be the perp.

                    #1.71 - Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:48 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Should have just blown his head off and save the tax payers the money and trouble....for the 26th time.

                    • 31 votes
                    Reply#2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:28 AM EDT
                    Comment author avatarsam adamsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Yep, that's what Jesus would want.

                    • 10 votes
                    #2.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

                    I guess sam wants to spoon with the guy?!!?? ^looks above^

                    • 22 votes
                    #2.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

                    Jesus would have wanted that habitual perp to reform. Responses like those from sam are almost - but not quite - enough to make me want to vote for Obama. I am so tired of the religious-right's injection into everything and equally the liberal left's excusing every bad behavior.

                    This guy should have been put away years ago - either by the courts or an armed home owner.

                    • 8 votes
                    #2.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

                    Well..... i am tried of people injecting politics into everything. Religion too, both are for sheep.

                    • 11 votes
                    #2.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                    Jesus also said to love your neighbor as yourself. If I had been there I would have helped her immediately! No way he hits her with a board after being caught in her home and me not getting involved. What is with people? He deserves life in jail, what a creep.

                    • 11 votes
                    #2.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                    A .50 cent bullet would have taken care of the 26th time. Obviously arrests and convictions haven't worked after 25 times and isn't that the definition of insanity...doing the same thing, expecting different results.

                    • 2 votes
                    #2.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                    Rocky Road....that was funny! Almost blew my soda out through my nose.... :))

                    • 3 votes
                    #2.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                    That is the mentality in the US isnt it. Just pack a gun and when necessary shoot anyone and everyone. Obviously this woman was able to subdue this guy without a gun and therefore this guy faces the courts which is how it is supposed to be. Although I have to admit it doesnt seem the law has worked too well with this guy.

                    What I dont understand in all the comments I read no matter the subject always and I do mean always politics seem to come into it. This makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Do you guys always blame the politicians for everything that happens in your country. This story is pretty straight forward. A two-bit low life of a thug tries to rob a lady - she chases him down and apprehends him. Where please do tell me is the politics in that.

                    • 2 votes
                    #2.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                    "i am tried of people injecting politics into everything. Religion too"

                    Yeah, Baby, Yeah! How can I vote on this more than once?????

                    • 5 votes
                    #2.9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                    @!$%# for brains...I mean politics for brains, proves that these people have an even lesser attention span than a teenage boy who thinks of sex every 3 seconds. At least the teen boy is thinking of something pleasing - what is happening inside the heads of the @!$%# for brains people...it has to take some kind of toll.

                    • 1 vote
                    #2.10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                    How was this article Political... somehow I bet the cat riding rumba utube video was bush's fault

                      #2.11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                      Jesus would have wanted that habitual perp to reform. Responses like those from sam are almost - but not quite - enough to make me want to vote for Obama. I am so tired of the religious-right's injection into everything and equally the liberal left's excusing every bad behavior.

                      This guy should have been put away years ago - either by the courts or an armed home owner

                      The problem is the extreme of either party however I believe the current republican leadership is far more to the right than democratic leaders are to the left. I'm a liberal and cheer this lady for defending her home. I support a citizens right to own guns but oppose automatic weapons and 100 round clips. I support a woman's right to an abortion in the first trimester or to save the mother. I think many main stream republicans would agree with my beliefs. Hard to paint everyone with the same brush.

                      • 1 vote
                      #2.12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                      How was this article Political... somehow I bet the cat riding rumba utube video was bush's fault

                      It's political because you make it so.

                        #2.13 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

                        Good for you lady, everyone should be sick of these jerks who break the law. The guy who should have helped you he'd better home his neighbors don't ignore him that way if he ever needs help.

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.14 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 3:13 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Her neighbors are pathetic.

                        • 52 votes
                        #3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

                        Not as pathetic as he is - overpowered by a middle-aged lady? He needs to find a different line of work.

                        • 31 votes
                        #3.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarworn out-4024611Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Those POS neighbors are probably the kind that will turn you in for growing a garden or letting your kids have a twinkie now and then. Those kind of people are why the US is in the state it's in now. Most likely dems. If someone breaks into my house, they will be dead

                        • 22 votes
                        #3.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                        Wornout----I agree with you 100%. Roaches walk in, they won't walk out!

                        • 17 votes
                        #3.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:12 AM EDT

                        Excuse ME, worn out.....What's with the grenade trolling? Most likely Dems? What planet are you on anyway?

                        THIS Democrat went into burning buildings for a living, this Democrat chased down a purse snatcher, this Democrat ( along with a cast of THOUSANDS like me) would do anything possible to help not only a neighbor, but anyone who needed it. Your brand of prejudice is not only erronious, but no longer viable....BTW...we also own guns. Break into my house sometime and see what a Democrat can do.....

                        • 46 votes
                        #3.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                        rkaralius

                        Not as pathetic as he is - overpowered by a middle-aged lady? He needs to find a different line of work.

                        At the very least, he should find a different getaway vehicle than a bicycle.

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

                        Neighbors must have been relative or friends of his or maybe just a yellow-bellied coward !!!!!!!!!!

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:21 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarRockyroad-531554Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Wow are all her neighbors Democrats??

                        • 11 votes
                        #3.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                        Pam Montgomery. I am a Republican and I agree with your anger with wornout. He/she was completely out of line and, as you put it, grenade trolling!

                        Kudos to you for being an "involved" person, I too try to be of help whenever I can and wish there were more like us!

                        • 31 votes
                        #3.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                        rkaralius:

                        Especially since he had already hit her with a 2 X 4.

                        • 6 votes
                        #3.9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                        Her neighbors are pathetic.

                        It's actually a psychological phenomenon called the bystander effect, where the more people see someone in trouble, the less likely it is for any of them to step forward and help.

                        One way to overcome it is by pointing at specific people (or even better calling their name) and ordering them to do things like calling the police.

                        • 11 votes
                        #3.10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

                        It's not performance art! That's what was going through my brother's mind when his artificial hip dislocated on him while attending an event at the Evergreen State Fairgrounds at Monroe, WA this year. He couldn't do anything but laugh through the agony while his two hunting friends were attempting to help him to the side of the aisle and people actually stepped over him with his locked up leg.

                        He facetiously remarked about passing the hat when EMS arrived to carry him out of the building as the crowd of gawkers had grown considerably.

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

                        Wornout; I live in a democratic neighborhood and I can guarantee had it been one of my neighbors [1 sheriff 2 bikers,1 former Marine And 1 former Special forces member they would of had to pick him up from the hospital after he healed. This story has nothing to do with politics moron

                        • 15 votes
                        #3.12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                        You tell 'em, Pam! I'm so weary of the divisive political trolling and classification. Some people make such stupid generalizations.

                        If wornout thinks every discussion has to degrade into some political bull$#!+, I guess I'd better throw in my two sense, too.

                        I make up my own mind and have "Declined to State." I encourage others to join me in this "new" party. I don't want any candidate running for, or in, any office to count on my support. I will give it when it is due and earned.

                        As Jessica points out, he had already hit her with a 2x4. The guy's a criminal and it looks like it goes to the core. He doesn't deserve another chance in society. Lock him up.

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.13 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

                        “All of a sudden, he said. 'I don't want to be with you anymore,

                        Guess not. hehehehehehehehehe

                        Good for her.

                        • 6 votes
                        #3.14 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                        Geez, I never heard of an artificial hip dislocating, hope my dad's doesn't ever do that.

                        Guy breaks into her house, in the chase he hits this woman with a board, and then has the GALL to say it was all a lover's spat?? She shoulda grabbed that 2/4 and bashed him in the head. Talk about insult to injury.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.15 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

                        "Not as pathetic as he is - overpowered by a middle-aged lady?"

                        Am I the only 1 picturing a 110 lb weakling?

                        He got beat up..........by a girl!!!!

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.16 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                        Think of yourself as the neighbors. If you saw a woman chasing a man and pin him down (if you didnt see the 2 X 4 attack) would you immediately think she was the victim?

                        Women are not always the victims people. Way to generalize and show your ignorance.

                        Yes i know she was the victim in this case. lol

                          #3.17 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 5:53 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          Most people are scared cowards....I had a medical emergency once...instead of getting help...people stared at me....do you think i put faith in humans anymore?

                          • 19 votes
                          Reply#4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

                          This is what fear of lawsuits has done to our society and our morals

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

                          In all fairness - most people really have no idea what to do in a medical emergency. And if they have any sense, know that possibly they could make a situation worse - and few could administer CPR. (It's been 40 years since I was trained, not good.) But I certainly would call for help, and have.

                          • 2 votes
                          #4.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:48 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          It is not hard to figure out why others did not get involved. We have a society built on suing people. You can bet that if something happens, that the good guy that helps would have his butt sued off and a host of other problems associated with his good will action.

                          That being said, I dont think I would have been able to stand there and do nothing to help.

                          • 19 votes
                          Reply#5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

                          Don't know about her state, but "Good Samaritan Laws" have been enacted in many states to protect people who are there and trying to help, especially doctors and nurses.

                          • 2 votes
                          #5.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                          That is true, but there is always some lawyer who will scream that you used to much force or you did something else wrong that you should not be covered by good Samaritan laws. Some people dont even have the cash to step foot in a court, even if there is a good chance that they will be covered as a good Samaritan.

                          In other words, it is easier to call 911 and stay out of it, and less risky as well. This is what we have built for our selves. We say people should mind their own problems and then get all high and mighty when people do just that, even when its something that you SHOULD get involved in.

                          Don't get me wrong, I would have gladly helped this woman. In fact, I would have been totally disgusted with myself had I been there and not. I can however see why people today do hesitate, and thats something that will take all of us to fix.

                            #5.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                            Did you know that good samiritan laws only help you to the point that you have been trained? For example, if you have been trained in basic CPR and break someones ribs while performing CPR, you are protected. However, if you have not been trained in CPR and break their rib, they could still sue you, because you attempted to perform something in which you didn't really know what you were doing.

                            And, just playing devils advocate, but the neighbors didn't know the situation. What they saw is a woman chasing a man, tackle him and pin him to the ground, then start asking for help. For all they knew, this was a woman who was mad at her boyfriend and chasing him; at that point, they could have been considered "good samaritan's" for helping him. It is very easy to sit in judgement of a situation when you weren't there, but in reality, hard to say you wouldn't have reacted in the exact same way had you been there. The article even states that he tried to play it off as being a domestic issue.

                            • 2 votes
                            #5.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:19 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            He didn't hit her with the 2 x 4 hard enough. After 25 times arrested he should have known better.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

                            He didn't hit her with the 2 x 4 hard enough

                            WTH? Are you sick?

                            • 15 votes
                            #6.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:30 AM EDT

                            No...he was saying something humorous. Look up the word humor in the dictionary.

                            He was marvelling at the fact that the man could commit 25 crimes...and still not get it right.

                            I wonder where some of you come from...sheesh.

                              #6.2 - Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:44 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              Wonder if he is legally in the country.. Shame on her neighbors.. Good for her..

                              • 26 votes
                              Reply#7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:44 AM EDT

                              Because anyone with a Hispanic name must be here illegally...

                              • 9 votes
                              #7.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

                              The racially prejudice have to come out too...barf. Ethnicity does not an illegal make. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. He's a criminal either way. Throw away the key.

                              And yes, shame on her neighbors.

                              I have to wonder which half of your disjointed comment people are voting on. I'm hoping it's the shame on her neighbors.

                              • 6 votes
                              #7.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

                              I grew up in the Northeast, I know most Hispanics in Northeast are Puerto Ricans. The last time I checked Puerto Rico is still a territory of USA and all Puerto Ricans are American citizens. So what does your racist rants has to do with this news? You are just as pathetic as this woman's neighbors.

                              • 9 votes
                              #7.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                              Exactly. They need to check his immigration status. Most illegals don't care how many arrests/convictions because they have NOTHING TO LOOSE. THEY'RE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!! Duh

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                              You call yourself "realist" but that is your post? You are nothing but a moron. He has 25 prior arrests. Do you really think an illegal alien would still be here after 25 arrests?

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

                              Racial Predudice? my left hind foot! In my opinion, when a guy with a hispanic name is a criminal, (I don't know percentage) but I kinda lean towards illegals) Sorry, just a thought.

                                #7.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 3:57 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                I am glad this woman is safe and this coward is behind bars...

                                Being a Canadian woman living in Japan I am glad to be over here versus being in N.America where there are guns available easily on both sides of the boarders and just seems so whacky. Saying that, minus the guns in this country there are crazy things that do happen here...fortunately the guns just are not added to the mix.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                                First of all there was nothing in this story about guns. Nobody had a gun. Nobody pulled a gun. No guns were fired. As far as you being a Canadian living in Japan and commenting on what happens in the USA please stay in Japan. The anti gun nuts think every time they open their mouths they need to rant about guns.

                                • 20 votes
                                #8.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                                None of your criminals have guns? No murders or robberies, break ins, rapes? Just wondering

                                • 7 votes
                                #8.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                                So, you're glad bad guys beat you with a hammer or slice you with a knife? Glad you feel safer.

                                • 9 votes
                                #8.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                                Yeah, keep your ass in Japan.

                                • 5 votes
                                #8.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                                commonsenseaintcommon~

                                Thanks for that! I may not be "LMAO," but that was good!

                                Japan can have you, tforo.

                                  #8.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                                  tforu---people can commit violent crime w/o a gun. A gun can level the playing field for the smaller against the larger. I suspect many people have heard, "God created man; Sam Colt made them equal." Another one I've heard, that I don't think nearly as many have heard, "God created man & woman equal; Smith & Wesson aims to keep it that way".

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #8.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                                  The actual quote that Colt engraved on the barrels of some of their pistols in the 1800's was: "Fear No Man, No Matter What the Size, For I Am With You Always, and I Will Equalize".

                                    #8.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                                    "a Canadian woman living in Japan I am glad to be over here versus being in N.America"

                                    *clicking heels 3 times

                                    Please let her stay in Japan. Please let her stay in Japan. Please let her stay in Japan.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #8.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:32 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    I'd love to be a neighbor in this situation, I'd jump in and hold nothing back. Sometimes you just need to beat the sh*t out of someone.

                                    • 18 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

                                    And if she was the aggressor by chasing him and pinning him to the ground, you would have been arrested for assualt and false imprissonment. Good for you mr macho.

                                      #9.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                      Dear Mr. Macho...aka Rob...I laughed at your comment, because it WAS funny. Maybe some people need to quit being so up-tight and anal...and learn to laugh.

                                        #9.2 - Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:48 AM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        hes lucky to be alive. hed have left my house in a body bag

                                        • 13 votes
                                        Reply#10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:56 AM EDT
                                        Comment author avatarIA.ScooterTrampExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                        are jesse jackass and al notsosharpton on the way to help this poor boy?

                                        • 5 votes
                                        Reply#11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                                        Why would they?

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #11.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                                        No Scooter, he's Hispanic.

                                        • 7 votes
                                        #11.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

                                        IA.scooter, Troll much?

                                          #11.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:28 PM EDT
                                          Reply

                                          I thought you needed a GUN to protect your home?

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

                                          why should i wrestle some junkie on the ground and ruin my clothes? screw the junkie. they break in they deserve to be shot in the face. that way i keep my shirt clean.

                                          • 14 votes
                                          #12.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:04 AM EDT
                                          Comment author avatarunfairunbalancedfoxExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                          Excellent point!....Only scared little "titty baby boys" who need to play with guns to feel powerful (then they cry when their little child gets a hold of it and accidentally kills himself or herself

                                          GUNS ARE FOR WUSSIES.... MEN WHO HAVE NEVER GROWN UP!

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #12.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                          Using Sam Adams as your moniker is misleading. If the first Americans thought like you did we would still be subjects not citziens. We gun nuts don't need guns to protect our homes. We want firearms because we see them as tools to be used for many different jobs. We you as a tool also. Just a much less intelligent and far more dnagerous tool than a gun might be.

                                          • 9 votes
                                          #12.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                                          Ummm, Unfairunbalancedfox. That was kind of a dumb thing to say. No, I am not a republican, but people I know have guns, have had guns in their families for generations, and no children have died. I really hope you know martial arts or something to back yourself up with when some "titty baby boys" bust into your house and try to shoot your ignorant azz.

                                          • 10 votes
                                          #12.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

                                          You don't need a gun to protect your home, but if someone with a gun breaks into your home while you are there, having a gun is helpful.

                                          Also, if she had a gun, she probably wouldn't have had to chase him through the neighborhood and get hit by a 2x4 to subdue him until the police arrived, being as she could have held him in her house, without ever firing a shot, until the police arrive.

                                          But most importantly, the fact that you may have guns in your house, is enough to keep many criminals from entering a home they know people are in. A government survey conducted in the 80's showed that 74% of criminals avoid houses with people in them because they fear armed victims, and 81% said they try to determine whether the victim is armed prior to committing a crime.

                                          http://www.readytodefend.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=11

                                          Comparing the US (with "lax" gun control laws) and the UK (with strict gun control laws). 2.8% of UK residents are victims of assault, as opposed to 1.2% of US residents, 0.9% of residents in the UK have been the victim of rape, compared to 0.4% of US residents, and 26.4% of UK residents have been the victim of some sort of crime, as opposed to 21.1% of US residents. Additionally, 70% of UK residents feel safe walking in the dark, while 82% of US residents feel safe walking in the dark.

                                          http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #12.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                                          Sam. Nope, just a menopausal woman tough enough to give birth to and raise 3 kids. I pity the fool who would try to burglarize our house when my wife is having a hot flash.

                                          Oh, and her neighbors suck.

                                          • 10 votes
                                          #12.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

                                          Maybe with a gun she wouldn't have been hit with a 2x4. He could have easily killed her with that. She was lucky on that. But the fact is he had a lethal weapon, why shouldn't she have had one?

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #12.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                                          "I pity the fool who would try to burglarize our house when my wife is having a hot flash."

                                          LMAO! Thanx, Randy!

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #12.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

                                          @Randy...lol. Thanks for the laugh.

                                            #12.9 - Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:52 AM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            After 25 arrests, it's time to put him down.

                                            • 10 votes
                                            Reply#13 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                                            Better wait till after November. obamma needs all the votes he can get.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #13.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

                                            lol...poor tonyin Wyo...desperately lobbing insults at democrats and trying so hard to turn this into some political jousting match. Nothing funnier than seeing the panic in the gop supporters now. They spent 6 months cannibalizing each other, then they pretend to embrace the last idiot standing, spend hundreds of millions of dollars telling hilarious lies and acting like this mess wasnt their fault, and now they realize that IT DIDNT WORK....LOL. Keep telling your fairy tales, keep blaming your mess on Obama, keep trying to block any progress, keep insulting everyone that doesnt think or feel exactly like you, but just remember that victory will be even sweeter this time and the dems will be laughing so hard at you when the election shows that you werent even close to fooling enough people to vote for the rich, racist, arrogant, ignorant, gop and their gullible, easily tricked supporters...hee hee....we will laugh and laugh......and then laugh some more, then we will be tossing the gop morons out on their ears and filling their seats with people that want to get things done!...then laugh some more...hee hee

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #13.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:21 PM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            Only 25 prior arrests. Ahh, put him back on the street, we'll worry after 30 arrests.

                                            • 9 votes
                                            Reply#14 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                                            I wonder if she can be charged with assault. He was no longer a threat after exiting her property; however, she continued to chase him and pin him to the ground. I certainly hope she is immune from prosecution.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#15 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

                                            The police will run down a criminal they feel is no danger so I would say she can do the same.

                                              #15.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

                                              It would be very disturbing if she DOES get charged with assault - hopefully that won't happen.

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                                              #15.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

                                              Technicially you may be right in some states, kind of think that if it is true here, it will fall through the cracks.

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                                              #15.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

                                              WW...She isn't a cop. They have different rules you know.

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                                              #15.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

                                              Bull$#i+! He was a threat before he entered her home. He was a threat in her home. And he was a threat after she chased him out. If he escaped, he was a threat to Pauline and others.

                                              Lock him up.

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                                              #15.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                                              If the jury pool is drawn from that town, I don't think she'll have much of a problem. Most jurors would be thinking "That could have been me".

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                                              #15.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                              Not a chance she will face any charges. The idiot hit her with a 2 x 4. As far as the jury pool from that town, well her cowardly neighbors don't give me much confidence in their reasoning abilities...

                                                #15.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                                                "I certainly hope she is immune from prosecution."

                                                Maybe.............in Connecticut.

                                                In Iowa, the police would have told her something-2-the-effect-of: once he left your house, he was no longer a threat. Now, on YOUR assault charge, U have the right 2 remain silent.............

                                                And Joliet Jake thought the Illinois Nazis were bad.

                                                  #15.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:47 PM EDT
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                                                  lmfao... neighbors fallowed the "no good deed goes left unpunished rule" gets to the point the neighbors could have been sued by Rivera. Sadly I would have helped, sadly i would have probably paid the consequences. Either way this countries @!$%#ed up anyone who thinks its not... needs to get their head out of the television set and look around.

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                                                  Reply#16 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                                  Welcome to CT, folks. The perp already had his alibi line thought up and none of the neighbors had the balls to help. Good job, lady! Maybe now the cops can figure out why the guy was still on the street. In Texas, they'd have found his body in the living room full of bullet holes and that would be the end of the story.

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                                                  Reply#17 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                                  Well said. Pump the guy with hollow points, case closed, taxpayers saved, one less scum roaming the earth.

                                                    #17.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

                                                    “All of a sudden, he said. 'I don't want to be with you anymore,' like trying to make it sound like it was domestic violence, like I was a crazy woman trying to keep her man,” said Bragg.

                                                    Dead men tell no lies.

                                                      #17.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:49 PM EDT
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                                                      I live right down the road from Willimantic and went to Eastern CT State Univ. in the same town. The whole town pretty much is like how the neighbors reacted. Its sad... very self-centered and to be honest little to no respect for the towns police force.

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                                                      Reply#18 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                                      How sad, Dj. I admit my thought was that Pauline lives in the wrong town.

                                                      I know my community has my back. It's a very nice feeling.

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                                                      #18.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:40 AM EDT
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                                                      This woman sure has some sorry neighbors. I can know that if they were in her shoes, they would want someone to help them out.

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                                                      Reply#19 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

                                                      Good for her though!

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                                                      Reply#20 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

                                                      Talk about bad neighbors!!! They top the cake. Although I think she was crazy for doing this, BRAVO for the great turnout.

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                                                      Reply#21 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                                                      She wasn't crazy. She had every right to react any damn way she pleased, since this criminal broke into her home. From personal experience, I ca ntell you that you never know what you are capable of. Criminals count on you being afraid, don't be! Years ago I was getting into my car when I saw a man suddenly stand up on the other side of my car. I reached for the bat I kept in the back seat and went to that side ot find my car up on a jack. One tire was missing and the man had been taking the lug nuts off the other tire. He took off running and I took off after him. It suddenly began raining (it was already after dark) but I caught him three blacks away. I proceeded to greet him Louisville Slugger style. I was interupted by an off-duty transit cop. The thief ran off, but at least I got in a few good whacks with that bat...

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                                                      #21.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 12:38 PM EDT
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                                                      Now that's my kind of woman. Neighbors talk a lot, but when it comes to reality, that is when the coward part shows up.

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                                                      Reply#22 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

                                                      Good for this lady. For everyone questioning the lack of help from the neighbors, has it occurred to any of you that they may not have known the lady? Has it occurred to any of you that they may have assumed it was a domestic disturbance? When the lady asked for help she was had the guy pinned to the ground. The neighbors who called the cops may have called to report it as a domestic disturbance, not because they knew he had broken into her home.

                                                        Reply#23 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                        Are you saying that you shouldn't help someone because you don't know them? Please!!!!!

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                                                        #23.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                                                        They could have at least held him until the police arrived. IF they had known each other and it was a domestic case they could have given him an "Am I bad" apologize. Nope - she has bad neighbors.

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                                                        #23.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

                                                        If you know someone has committed a crime, yes, you should definitely help them. As in, if you are walking down the street and see someone grab a ladies purse, by all means, chase the person down. However, if you are in your backyard and see some guy come running through your yard and get tackled by a lady who is clearly able to hold him down, no, I wouldn't help her, because, for all you know, she is the one committing the crime, in which case, you have just become an accomplice.

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                                                        #23.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                                                        You Natedom, sound like a coward! One day you might need someone to come to your aid and I hope that you get that help.

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                                                        #23.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                                                        My brothers and husband were both raised that no matter the situation, if you see a man in a physical confrontation with a woman you step in. It shouldn't matter if you know them or not. Guess my family is just old school.

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                                                        #23.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                                                        @Honeybee60 - I sound like a coward because I am not going to assume that a woman who has tackled and pinned a man to the ground couldn't possibly be the aggressor? How about simply being a woman who was taught to protect herself? How about a woman with an uncle who has been in an abusive relationship that resulted in him being hospitalized and almost killed, while the woman initially walked because "the man is always the aggressor?"

                                                        How about someone who simply understands that sometimes things are exactly as they appear. Would you still feel the neighbors were horrible people had it been two men? How about two women?

                                                        No, not a coward, simply someone who realizes that sometimes men need every bit as much help as women do.

                                                        @smilingphoebs - my husband and brothers were also raised that way; they changed their attitudes when my uncle was put in the hospital by his girlfriend when she beat the crap out of him and he simply stood there and allowed it to happen because he had been raised to never hit a woman.

                                                        Quite honestly, if anything, the neighbors should have stepped in and subdued the both of them until the police arrived and allowed them to sort it out. But to assume they should have jumped in and helped her and not him is extremely naive and a bit offensive to women such as Pauline, who are able to hold their own.

                                                          #23.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                                                          her neighbors wouldn't help, Think!! a middleaged white woman chasing a minority, can you blame them... in a few weeks she'll be sued for violating his rights, and jesse jackson and al sharpton will be matching in front of her home.

                                                            #23.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 4:19 PM EDT
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                                                            Who give @!$%# about Rep and Demo? They has nothing do with thief and brave woman! I can't believe that idiots don't help her when she asked for help. Now she know them and will avoid them who won't help. What are they? Not humans, something else..

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                                                            Reply#24 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                            By the looks of her I wouldn't tangle with this cougar. Pauline looks like she can hold her own in an MMA fight. Is Ramon legal?

                                                              Reply#25 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
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