Student gunned down walking to school in Maryland

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A high school junior was shot and killed Tuesday morning while walking to school in District Heights, Md.

Marckel Norman Ross, 18, was on his way to Central High School when he was gunned down on Old Central Avenue.

Several calls came in at about 6:50 a.m. reporting the shooting. 

“Detectives are actively working this case,” Prince George’s County police spokesperson Julie Parker said Tuesday. “We are looking for witnesses, anyone who may have seen anything at about 6:50 this morning on old Central Avenue.”

The Ross family moved from Anne Arundel County to District Heights in 2009.

“I moved them to Anne Arundel County for a better life and I felt like they were old enough to be able to protect themselves a little bit so I brought them back up here,” said Elizabeth Ross, the victim’s mother.

She said her son had a hard time adjusting and was held back a grade. His issues were social, she said, and he was bullied by a group of boys last year.

Elizabeth Ross said she took her bullying complaints all the way to the Board of Education.

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Marckel Norman Ross, 18, was on his way to high school when he was gunned down Tuesday morning.

“Always want to fight, every time he see them, they saying something to him,” she said.

The school's principal told News4's Tracee Wilkins that Ross was involved in the modeling club and was a beloved student. "This is a young man who deserved to live," the principal said.

He was also making honor roll and was involved in track and ROTC.

No suspect information was immediately available.

"The Prince Georges County Public Schools community is saddened beyond measure by the shooting death that claimed the life of Central High School 11th-grader Markel Ross as he walked to school this morning," Dr. Alvin L. Crawley, Interim Superintendent of Schools, said in a statement Tuesday.

"...We extend our deepest sympathies to this young mans family and friends, along with our fervent hope that those responsible for his death will soon be brought to justice," the statement continued.

Grief counselors from around the county went to the school to support students.

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Comment author avatarOld Gator-1468794Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Guns. The American way.

  • 16 votes
#2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:25 AM EDT
Comment author avataraworldofhurtExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And I'm sure the gun that killed him was legal too.It had nothing to do with the liberal medias' glorifying the gangsta life style. So go crawl back into your plastic bubble where it's all nice and safe and let the adults deal with the real world, an guit being such a twit.

  • 26 votes
#2.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

Probably Libya is safer than the USA, as long as you are not the Ambassador.

  • 7 votes
#2.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

aworldofhurt:

When you refer to "liberal media", can you be more specific?

Are you referring to the New York Times, which championed the invasion of Iraq on falsified evidence?

Or perhaps you are referring to Fox, which owns not only Fox News but a host of Hollywood entities that produce and market "gansta lifestyle" movies and music?

Perchance you refer to NBC, a subsidiary of General Electric - one of the largest Defense Contractors (and war profiteers)?

When I hear that tired phrase "liberal media", I tend to ask "what liberal media, where?".

It seems to me that the "media" is corporate owned, corporate controlled, and consistently pushes memes and messages which advance the policies of the 1%.

Question: When is the last time you heard our corporate media discuss Single Payer Healthcare as an improvement over our current deny-care-for-profit system?

When is the last time you heard our "liberal media" beat the drum of raising taxes on the 1%, fighting against Free Trade Job Off-Shoring, or going after the 1%'s Wall Street Predators (speaking of Wall Street Banksters, Obama - that left wing socialist - appointed THREE of them as his Chief of Staff)?

When is the last time you heard our "liberal media" call for supporting those oh-so-corrupt Unions? (as opposed to the squeaky clean corporations & the 1% who own them)?

When is the last time you heard that "liberal media" push for increased funding for education as opposed to privatizing / "charter schools"?

Where in the hell is this so-called "liberal media" of which you speak? It doesn't exist. What exists is corporate media & propaganda.

And one of the propaganda memes - which you repeat better than a well-trained parrot - is "liberal media".

It's Time To Wake Up.

  • 62 votes
#2.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

I could not say it any better

remember you can not spell DIRT BAG with out (D) & (R)

bite me 2012

  • 23 votes
#2.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

Guns. The American way.

I'd say more like Crime. The way of some Americans.

It's sad that this is what a good many young people in various locales aspire to, unfortunately, it's all many of them know because it's what they've been seeing throughout their entire young lives.

People who should not or, in many cases, legally cannot possess firearms is a factor, but if firearms were unavailable, you can rest assured that they would still be employing fists, bats, sticks, rocks, bottles, knives, or whatever else they could improvise to intimidate, retaliate, coerce, extort, or otherwise victimize those they wish to dominate. Partly it's human nature; when you get a number of young men who are not otherwise preoccupied and/or well guided and supervised in close proximity to each other, the 'law of the jungle' soon becomes the order of the day. It's been this way for thousands of years.

It's too bad no one can come up with a tenable solution that keeps teenagers too busy with something for them to have the time to be getting into trouble. It seems anything devised requires a source of funding that can't be maintained or else someone has a problem with whatever is instituted and complaints or lawsuits shut it down.

  • 9 votes
#2.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT
Comment author avatarasknreceive1-1054310Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This will be my last visit to Newsvine. I want to thank those who post sensible, compassionate and intelligent comments. As to the others, and I'm referring to the racists, haters and those who represent the Lunatic Fringe on issues of gun control, religiosity, hate, bigotry, irgnorance of social issues, Fox News and Hate Talk/Conservative Talk Radio et al, you sicken me and you are, collectively, Exhibit A of all that ails this nation. If Obama is re-elected, please make good on your promises to move to another land. You can run yourselves into the ground and leave the rest of us to live out our lives in peace. Good LORD! I've never seen so many stupid people gathered in one place than on Newsvine, unless it was a Tea Party mob gathering or the RNC 2012!

  • 37 votes
#2.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

Your post started out sounding intelligent and good but you ended it with pure ignorance!

  • 10 votes
#2.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

aksnreceive1,

Well, bye.

  • 8 votes
#2.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:18 AM EDT
Comment author avatarthepunisher-2054749Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Old Gator-1468794

Guns. The American way.

It's better than the British way or the Nazi way or would you prefer the Mexican way? oh oh, you like the Canadian way.......................sorry they all lost.

  • 4 votes
#2.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

aworldofhurt - im confused why white conservative republican males talk endlessly about personal responsibility, but they always go to blaming the LIBERAL MEDIA...or liberals in general.

i thought what killed this kid was the person pulling the trigger on the other end of the guiltless gun....nothing more and nothing less.

try to stay consistent, i know im asking the impossible.

  • 10 votes
#2.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

People will ALWAYS find a way to kill other people. Guns, knives, clubs, rocks, cars, water, food: If we outlawed EVERYTHING that we could use to kill another human being we would not have anything.

  • 7 votes
#2.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

@punisher - what exactly did Canadians lose? Last time I checked when the Americans tried to invade Canada, Canada came out the winner. Check your history before you poste.

  • 7 votes
#2.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

I've seen this before with black kids that actually want to make something of themselves being harassed and set upon because they don't embrace the gangsta lifestyle and culture.

Typically, all the ideologues on this thread avoid the real issue and only regurgitate the usual anti-gun drivel.

  • 21 votes
#2.13 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

seems to me that even 30 years ago there wasn't the amount of kids killing kids. Ever since it became popular to "reason" with your kids instead of spanking them for misbehavior the amount of teens today are nothing short of vicious. If you think reasoning has made your kids respectful then look at the proof. The kids bring guns, knives, or what ever is thier choice of weapons to playgrounds, schools, anywhere they think they can get away with hurting others. Perhaps its time to take control of the kids today, our parents did it so whats wrong with todays parents. Dont give me that "well we have to work" crappola.. my parents worked and made us behave.

  • 16 votes
#2.14 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

Princes Georges County Md....It's always been this way and not going to change....The county has never been the same sense busing in the 70's....Sad But True!

  • 2 votes
#2.15 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

Eighteen years old... What a shame... This boy hadn't even started his life...

What does it say about this country as a free society?

  • 14 votes
#2.16 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

mb-757763

@punisher - what exactly did Canadians lose? Last time I checked when the Americans tried to invade Canada, Canada came out the winner. Check your history before you poste.

My bad...............it really was the French that lost....but same difference.

  • 1 vote
#2.17 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

asknreceive1, you are right on the $$$. I never truly recognized how miserable some people truly are until I started reading these threads. And they can try to blame Obama, guns or whatever else, but in the end, they are just miserable people full of hate and negative energy and that's all they'll ever be. Period. "Hatemongers R Us" should be the name. I just pray for them and appreciate those that are positive. :-)

  • 8 votes
#2.18 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

Guns are not the problem. 18 year old Juniors in high school are.

  • 4 votes
#2.19 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:08 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDemar-1859463Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

asknreceive1-1054310, another post by an oh-so tolerant and open-minded liberal. Good, nobody wants to here your garbage anyway.

  • 3 votes
#2.20 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

My prayers are with this childs family -- I could not imagine the pain they are feeling. You should not have to worry that your child will be shot while walking down the street, not here. Should they find he was shot by a school bully...ridiculous and for no good reason at all. I pray they find his shooter swiftly.

  • 7 votes
#2.21 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

"This is a young man who deserved to live," said the principal.

That comment by the principal suggests he has an opinion that there are young men who deserve to die. Or was he also suggesting that there are young women who deserve to live or die?

  • 2 votes
#2.22 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

This is so sad. Thoughts and prayers to his family. Sounds like he was a very nice young man that had a bright future in front of him. Hopefully they will find justice for him.

  • 6 votes
#2.23 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRon-975213Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Black on Black violence is pandemic...where is Obama? Jackson? Sharpton? They won't touch this issue. Just not politically advantageous. The Neros fiddle while Rome burns!

  • 3 votes
#2.24 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

Demar

This is supposed to be a liberal site, so say you reich wingers. What are you doing here?

A kid was killed. All you armchair analysts, STFU!!!

Condolences to the family. God carry you through this.

  • 4 votes
#2.25 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

im confused why white conservative republican males talk endlessly about personal responsibility, but they always go to blaming the LIBERAL MEDIA...or liberals in general

Whether and to what extent the media is 'liberal' is endlessly debatable, the fact that prominent actors and actresses tend to be openly left-leaning not withstanding, but the issue is that what the various Hollywood studios keep releasing as entertainment too often illustrates supposed 'heroes' acting in completely reckless and irresponsible ways, hardly any better than the villains they're supposed to be opposing. In most action types of movies and TV shows, the 'good guys' break as many laws (and other peoples' things) as the 'bad guys' do. But, they're said to be the 'good guys', so apparently that makes it okay...as long as you don't go do that stuff in real life, in which case you're in a heap of trouble. Go figure.

People will ALWAYS find a way to kill other people. Guns, knives, clubs, rocks, cars, water, food: If we outlawed EVERYTHING that we could use to kill another human being we would not have anything.

There's a saying out there about the will to win being more important than the skill to win, alluding to that if someone (and this saying pertains mostly to war fighting and combat, by the way) really wants to accomplish something, lack of training or experience isn't likely to deter or foil them; audacity can carry them to accomplishing their objective. As yesterday was September 11, we Americans should be painfully aware of this by now! Yes, the tools with which to injure and kill one another are omnipresent, many are naturally occurring and would be here even if we humans never were. It's the wanting to injure and kill each other that's the problem, and the solution is discouraging people from wanting to do it in the first place, not trying to restrict the means of doing so - that's a fool's errand if there ever was one. When teenagers and young adults are immature to the point that they think in terms of childish violence amplified with adult implements, more than likely they are emulating a bad role model. It could be one or more real-life reprobates, or, more likely, it could be years of exposure to fictitious characters who make violence and mayhem a lifestyle choice, and they make it look pretty good, too.

I've seen this before with black kids that actually want to make something of themselves being harassed and set upon because they don't embrace the gangsta lifestyle and culture.

The high achievers are viewed as a threat. This happens in most all groups, and it ranges from 'when you're number one, everyone's aiming to knock you off' to 'screwing up the grading curve' to 'you're making average people look bad!'. With non-violent groups, it just remains simmering resentment. With those who are disposed to violence, well, it gets ugly!

seems to me that even 30 years ago there wasn't the amount of kids killing kids

Like many things, the situation escalates over time. Everyone tries to be just a little bit bolder, better, badder, or whatever, than their contemporaries are. Normally, this process is what results in progress, especially when it comes to products of some sort. With bad things, though, they just get more serious.

Perhaps its time to take control of the kids today, our parents did it so whats wrong with todays parents.

It would seem to be 'absenteeism' in a great many cases. The parents are nowhere to be seen, so many kids end up being raised by...each other! If that's not a case of the figurative 'inmates running the asylum', I don't know what is! The outcome of that can't be good.

  • 4 votes
#2.26 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Apparently Ron is unaware that most white people who are murdered are murdered by other whites. Whenever you see an article about a white killer do you comment on white on white crime? Who was looking out for all those innocent white people killed in the movie theatre by that crazy white guy? Maybe somebody should have called Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for that you racist pig.

  • 5 votes
#2.27 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

Black on Black violence is pandemic...where is Obama? Jackson? Sharpton? They won't touch this issue.

Unless it is white on black crime, they won't lift a finger. It's not politically or financially conducive for them when its "only" black on black crime. The sad state of leadership in the Black community leaves them with no one but Gangsta Rappers and Pro-Athletes to look up to. Seems like the MLK generation of Black leaders still alive really enjoy living in that past as well as the power and recognition they get from having been associated to MLK...riding his coat-tails so to speak. They've never moved out of the 60's. Very sad....my condolences to this boy's family.

  • 6 votes
#2.28 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

The principal is right. Some people need killing. Maybe not this young man, but certainly the guy who pulled the trigger.

    #2.29 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

    Paula - When it is a white guy criminal, like in Colorado, the Liberal media tries to peg him as a Tea party member, GOPer, or Conservative racist of some sort.

    Who was looking out for all those innocent white people killed in the movie theatre by that crazy white guy?

    As it turned out, that dood was a liberal OWSer. In most cases...the white crimes of mass murder are nut jobs associated with white supremacy, nazi, communist type groups. Those groups are not affiliated with Conservative, TP or GOP like liberals and liberal minorities would love to think.

    • 2 votes
    #2.30 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

    The punisher: Yeah the French and Canadians are the same. LOL.

      #2.31 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

      Guns? Hear about the crazy white guy in Wisconsing who killed his 3 young sons, and injured his wife and 4'th child?

      Oh BTW - he locked the door and burned down the house. No laws, nor limits on any physical object will stop crazy...or evil.

      • 1 vote
      #2.32 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:27 PM EDT
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      Comment author avatarThrowDownLoungeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      The scumbags on the street take another life. They have it to easy in prison and that's why they don't think twice about pulling the trigger and killing someone.

      • 17 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

      It's PG county. The criminals know they won't get caught!

      • 7 votes
      #3.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

      Mr. auschwitz- american prisons are vacations compared to other countries. 3 hots and a cot, medical, dental, and access to everything they need, weapons, drugs. Oh yeah, prisons are so tough here. Im not saying its a walk in the park. But the people pulling the trigger aren't scared of going back, they r with all their friends in there, and they are protected from people they fear outside of prison. Plus they dont have to get a job in prison, other than the free manual labor they give. you have a one track mind sir. Prison is cake if you listen to your corrections officers and mind your own business, as long as your not a rapist or molester.

      • 12 votes
      #3.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

      Mr. Auschwitz

      "Too easy in prison"? You have obviously never spent a day on the Inside.

      I have never been inside. But seriously...........US prisions don't scare any harden criminals or street thugs, maybe only law abiding citizens.

      • 7 votes
      #3.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

      These inner city minority kids just can't have one of their own do some good with his life, they have to kill him. This mentality is crap, and we keep excusing it, dismissing criminal behavior because they're black, they're poor, they have no choice. These people need to start busting these kids butts at an early age, and maybe try some parenting post coitus.

      • 10 votes
      #3.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

      Yah, prisons are no fun...but that's where the losers and chickensh*t scum all go. It's full of punks that love to declare "you gotta be a strong man to survive in prison". If ANY of the useless maggots, that reside there, were REAL men, they wouldnt be there in the first place!...It takes a strong man to stay out of prison! Real men are supporting themselves, their families, making their communities better and safer, fighting our wars, showing children how to live a good life with honor and dignity, and paying taxes to help our country grow! The stupid f**ks in prison are simply lil b*tches that cant stand on their own two feet and make anything decent out of their lives. most of them have pathetic hoodrats for mothers, that spit this scum out and expect us to deal with it...Our tax dollars should be used to better us all and help build schools for our children, not to support a bunch of loser chumps, that somehow think their dumb asses own the title of "man" just because they live in prison!...I know every one of the prison punks rebuttal will be "oh yah?, come say dat to my face"...friggin morons! The same maggots that killed this young man are the same scum that we all feed and house. At some point we need to go out and eliminate the mother f'n useless parasites on our streets! It's not as if the black community will go out marching and demanding change...right now theyre all waiting to see if the shooter was white before they make a decision to protest. In the meantime, this scene is being repeated thousands of time every year!...but they only give f**k when a white person is the killer! Sad and heartbreaking to see this young mans murder will not bring any action from blacks, unless the killer is white....Now dont let facts and common sense get in the way of your response, just go with the same ole "oh youza racist" and ignore the damn problem that forces so many blacks to visit their loved ones in prisons and graveyards....honor them by simply calling everyone a racist...disgusting! Tired of crying for people that just dont care!!!

      • 15 votes
      #3.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

      lol, like anyone in the ghetto even CONSIDERS prison as part of their critical thinking process (as if they are even engaging in critical thinking skills).

      these kids (and thats all most of them really are) are ready to die tonight, so they are living it up today...and you think PRISON is going to scare them straight, if only it were "harder" on them?

      hilarious!

      so how much would prison scare you if you knew the minute you walked out your door you could be shot to death?

      come on now, you people are just plain dumb.

      • 5 votes
      #3.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

      scotty - i sincerely doubt you ever cried for any of the people you just railed on about.

      but, hey, the nazi way of dealing with problems is always useful isnt it? let's round up all the useless wastes of life in america - just so you know, there are more white ones than black...im hoping you know you're going to have gass a whole lot of uneducated beligerent white drunks...but at least our streets will be free of their worthless arses.

      • 1 vote
      #3.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

      Jessica-1170252, wrong again.

      • 3 votes
      #3.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

      spellin' stuff is hard, just ask Jessica...but thanks for doing exactly what i said...The same ole, "youza racist" and ignore the problem...hee hee...dimwit!

      • 5 votes
      #3.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

      ThrowDownLounge.Com I agree with you 100%. The ghetto youth of this nation consider a prison term a badge of courage. They have it WAY too easy, which is part of the problem. Make the prisons more harsh and show them off to the kids when they are young and maybe they would think twice before buying a gun and pulling the trigger.

      • 5 votes
      #3.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

      It is so easy in prison that people are being sent there so they can get medical treatments that they couldn't afford otherwise, such as a sex change courtesy of the state.

      • 4 votes
      #3.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

      Mr. Auschwitz,

      Seems to me you know an awful lot about the inside of prison walls. It shows in your very first (#1) post. How many times did "you" drop the soap on purpose? Heh heh.

      Have a nice day...

      CD

        #3.13 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:28 PM EDT
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        Comment author avatarleroy brownExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        If only we had more guns in America this would never happen. More guns=less gun deaths as any self respecting gun nut will tell you!

        • 11 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

        what you meant to say was, more gun laws = less guns in the hands of good citizens. You think the guns gangs use are legal or registered? Welcome back to reality.

        • 13 votes
        #4.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

        leroy brown

        No only if we had less morons in America. But that argument is beyond you.

        • 4 votes
        #4.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

        I think we could just outlaw guns in inner cities. They're the ones killing each other. Alternatively, we could give a new free gun along with each fatherless child born in the inner city and the issue would resolve itself in one decade.

        • 3 votes
        #4.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

        thepunisher-2054749 in regard to leroy brown. I am pretty sure he was being sarcastic in his longing for more guns. Thus, the reference to gun nuts. You sound a little anxious to find a villain.

        • 2 votes
        #4.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

        If guns were banned in America, these types of crimes would still be happening. Leave it to the idiot liberals on this message board to make ridiculous, baseless claims about why violent crime happens and point fingers in the wrong direction while ignoring the root of the problem. How about instead, open a book on sociology and educate yourself before running your ignorant mouths on the internet.

        • 3 votes
        #4.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

        in the middle-2260511, guns in inner cities are already outlawed. You can't really be this clueless can you? New York City, Chicago and Philadelphia have some of the strictest gun control laws in the country and some of the highest incidents of gun violence. Exactly how much more illegal can it be beyond what it already is?

        • 3 votes
        #4.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

        Criminals don't abide by the law. Outlawing weapons only keeps weapons out of law abiding citizens hands.

        • 5 votes
        #4.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:55 PM EDT
        Reply

        My sincere condolences to Ms. Ross. To lose a child is difficult enough, to lose one to murdering low life thugs for no reason at all is worse.

        I hope the Prince Georges authorities locate and prosecute the scum that did this quickly and harshly.

        • 52 votes
        #5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

        "This is a young man who deserved to live," the principal said

        Does this mean that the pricipal feels that some of his students don't deserve to live? That is just a strange statement during this tragic event.

        • 14 votes
        #5.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

        This is sad and mindless this nation is in need of prayer.

        • 11 votes
        #5.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

        gtouch

        I thought that too, who does this principal think he is?

        • 2 votes
        #5.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

        Maybe some of his students are gang bangers and criminals.....

        • 8 votes
        #5.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

        He probably meant that the tragedy is even worse because of what a great kid he is. When people are upset things can come out the wrong way.

        Let's face it, if some kid was a drug dealer or a thug, there would be less people upset about his death. It's natural to be more upset when someone who is considered "good" dies.

        • 18 votes
        #5.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

        chess

        well said. i just wonder how long it will take before we all come to realize that God is what is lacking. The more our citizens have pulled away, the worse things have gotten.

        i am with you - prayer all the way.

        thanks

        • 13 votes
        #5.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

        gtouch

        It did sound strange, but I think the story clarifies it a little. He sounded like a good, smart and hard working kid. This is evidently not the norm up there.

        • 7 votes
        #5.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

        Finally, a kind post about the sad passing of a life taken too young......thank you for bringing a sense of compassion to these posts! A young life was needlessly taken, no matter your views on gun control or the "liberal media", those have nothing to do with the fact that this young man was shot walking to school. My thoughts and prayers go with his family and friends. I too hope they find the low life who killed this young man.

        • 14 votes
        #5.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

        He's a principal in a @!$%#ty neighborhood, there are going to be good kids like the victim and people not worth putting time or money into. It sounds insensitive, but in an environment such as his it's not too out of touch. People probably die pretty often there, if you could choose which people to save and which to die who would you pick? The kid with a bright future or the one with none.

        • 4 votes
        #5.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:06 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarGolfurExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        I'm sure it was a Republican that shot him. That would mean one less Obama voter, although the thousands that were granted immunity and given citizenship will make up for the one loss bruther!

        VIVA OBAMA

        • 1 vote
        #5.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

        2000 years of Christian history proves that believing in God doesn't make anyone less violent.

        • 5 votes
        #5.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

        X9, I remember when going to to school, you hoped to get through the big tests or exams, now you hope get to make it through the day alive.

        My condolences to this young man's family. He seemed like a smart young man that wanted to do better and get ahead in the world. Now some ''big' man with a gun' has taken him away.

        • 4 votes
        #5.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

        please. prayers aren't going to do anything.

        how many millenniums have God's followers been praying and yet people still murder.

        maybe it's time to realize that praying does NOT work?

        • 2 votes
        #5.14 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

        markl-I don't think you really know what you are saying. Prayer does change things but God doesn't always do what we want Him to.

        • 4 votes
        #5.15 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:41 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarKenneth Whiteheadvia Facebook

        Agreed.

          #5.16 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

          "God doesn't always do what we want Him to."

          Then what good is he? He should be fired.

            #5.17 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

            chess

            well said. i just wonder how long it will take before we all come to realize that God is what is lacking. The more our citizens have pulled away, the worse things have gotten.

            i am with you - prayer all the way.

            Please stop with the Religious BS.. Religion is responsible for more deaths then anything else in this world. It has started wars, witch hunts. Religion is the root of all evil if you ask me. I live a peaceful life with a great family, we do not go to church (all churches are good for is pushing their agenda on you and requiring you to tithe 10% of your hard earned money so the preacher can have 2 cars and live in a lavish house). We are non violent and believe in treating others with respect and would never resort to a gun to kill unless it was to protect our family or friends.

            There are quite a few ignorant posts on these boards and yours is just one example.

              #5.18 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

              mb-757763

              He probably meant that the tragedy is even worse because of what a great kid he is. When people are upset things can come out the wrong way.

              Let's face it, if some kid was a drug dealer or a thug, there would be less people upset about his death. It's natural to be more upset when someone who is considered "good" dies.

              How is that some folks take things so literal and yet others like u mb-757 can understand the meaning behind what someone says.

                #5.19 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                thepunisher-2054749

                "God doesn't always do what we want Him to."

                Then what good is he? He should be fired.

                Your thinking is completely backwards. Obviously u aren't spiritual enough to understand. God uses u not the other way around.

                  #5.20 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:18 AM EDT
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                  Comment author avatarThrowDownLoungeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  The anti-gun nuts are up early today.

                  • 16 votes
                  Reply#6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

                  As was the nut with the gun.

                  • 22 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:07 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarmike-3234995Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  the ILLEGAL gun that no gun law would have stopped that nut from having. Get it yet?

                  • 8 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

                  mike, guns are designed for one thing: death. GET IT YET?

                  • 6 votes
                  #6.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                  Gee, if someone is sick enough to commit murder, don't ya think they are willing to do it with an ILLEGAL gun?

                  • 7 votes
                  #6.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                  mike,

                  How do you know the gun was illegal?

                  I believe you are assuming, and while it's a valid assumption, it's still just an assumption.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                  Sheri-78,

                  It sure would be a wonderful world if all (every single one) guns just magically disappeared (along with the capability for any future guns to be manufactured). But the reality is that there are guns, and the criminals that use them to perpetrate illegal crimes will probably always obtain them (illegally). Since we live in this reality (some of us, anyway) I value my right to bear arms (legally). Don't spit on my, or any other law abiding American citizen's right to choose to do so.!

                  My guns are designed to protect (death is just a side effect)

                  Thanks!

                  • 9 votes
                  #6.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

                  Sheri-78

                  mike, guns are designed for one thing: death. GET IT YET?

                  So are a lot of other things............but I don't think you've got it yet.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                  Thanatos-3694994

                  Sheri-78,

                  It sure would be a wonderful world if all (every single one) guns just magically disappeared (along with the capability for any future guns to be manufactured).

                  You are on drugs. Your comment implies that the world was a rose garden before guns were conceived. Did the world turn suddenly murderous at that moment in time when the "evil" gun came about. I don't think so. Here is a short (very short) list of other methods of taking a life: water, food, knives, rocks, cars. If EVERYTHING that was capable of taking a life purposely was suddenly removed from the Earth it would be a VERY boring place to live.

                  Time for rehab.....

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                  Idaho,

                  Do you realize that you're on the same side of the argument as me? Look up "facetious" in the dictionary. I apologize for not getting that part of the message across, but I thought it was obvious.

                  • 6 votes
                  #6.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

                  Guns aren't the problem. You can take a life with just about anything. It's is the mentality of the person or should i say the people who murder that is the issue. It doesn't matter if it was illegal or legal. Guns are weapons and weapons are tools. Tools can't use themselves. I could easily have seen them beating this guy to death with their bare hands.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                  Less than 1% of guns are used in crimes. Time to look for a new scapegoat.

                    #6.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                    When are people going to realize that it's the criminal with the gun that kills someone? When was the last time that you heard of a law abiding citizen that has a permit to own a gun going around shooting people? Wake up. It's not the guns. Do career criminals/thugs get gun permits? No, they don't. They buy them from other criminals who get them bascially on the black market. Guns are shipped into this country via customs all of the time. Is the govt going to check every container that comes into this country? No, they don't and won't. The govt could ban guns but can the govt guarantee us law abiding citizens that thugs won't get ahold of them? No, they can't. If we ban guns the only ones left with the guns are police and criminals. Every law abiding citizen has the right to retain a gun permit and protect themselves from this type of crap.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

                    Sheryl-4296386: I do believe that the Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner and he shot a lot of people....Just putting a little fairness and balance into it......

                      #6.13 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:06 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      A young man trying to better himself bullied and killed by those who love the ghetto gang life-style. Tragic loss

                      • 45 votes
                      Reply#7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

                      Agreed. They took one that could actually help....do some good. Pretty soon, I think people are going to stop trying in these areas.

                      • 3 votes
                      #7.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                      The unfrotunate thing about having dreams, aspirations - is people think they can push you around. After all, if he is the "Alpha Dog" in his pack, he's not going to be satisfied unless everyone knows it.

                      “Always want to fight, every time he see them, they saying something to him,” she said.

                      The school's principal told News4's Tracee Wilkins that Ross was involved in the modeling club and was a beloved student. "This is a young man who deserved to live," the principal said.

                      He was also making honor roll and was involved in track and ROTC.

                      Based on what his mother said and the list of extra curricular activities he was involved in - including being an Honor student. He was a something the bullies couldn't stand. He was proof that - the world wasn't against you; Gang bangers and low life scum spread that lie so they can keep getting new recruits.

                      Sounds like one of them might have tangled with him some time in the past, got his butt whooped - and wanted a rematch. (likely with 3 or 4 friends to "help").

                      I was an army brat, we moved to 5 states and 3 countries, as my father was re-deployed , promoted or another skirmish broke out somewhere in the world. Most of the time we lived on military bases - but some places we had to live on the economy, with non-military folks. It became a regular thing that some bully would pick on "the new kids". Most of the time - that was a mistake. But back then, an ass- kicking didn't usually escalate to a shooting.

                      I feel for the mother, she will probably never forgive herself for returning to that hell hole, cess pool - just to see her son die a violent death over something as trivial as some loser, trying to get even.

                      Most likely, she was hoping, as she stated - that he was old enough and capable enough to avoid having to prove himself with the idiot slacker crowd again.

                      They say you don't need to put a lid on a barrel of crabs or lobsters - none will escape. Cause as soon as one finds a clear path - the rest will grab on for a free ride - their weight pulls him right back in the barrel...

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                      Another one bites the dust. Trayvon Martin all over again...great kid, promising future...bullcrap. When being black is more imnportant than being a succesful person, then this is what happens. I see it all the time with the gangbangers who just hate nice folks..black or white. This is what America is good atnow......hate, violence, and pretending things are better than they are.

                        #7.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:14 PM EDT
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                        It's not about the guns. It's about a mentality, a life style, a whole community. It is perpetuated in the gang banger culture. No one has two parents. No one respects life. No one is educated. No one respects authority. No one works for a living.

                        • 38 votes
                        #8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:03 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarTony IronWorkerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        No one has two parents. No one respects life. No one is educated. No one respects authority. No one works for a living.

                        Wow what an observation. You must have the crime solved with that much information. To condemn a whole community over one persons actions. You need group therapy as you seem to lump people into some sort of group.

                        • 12 votes
                        #8.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

                        Only a person who doesn't live in such an area or never visits would make such assumptions.

                        It's just a whole community of parent-less, disrespectful, uneducated and unemployed low-lives huh? Name one ghetto you've actually been in (not driven through). We'll wait on that answer..

                        • 13 votes
                        #8.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

                        I think that it is unfortunate that it is assumed that when a black male walking to school is shot and killed, he must have been in a gang. The story stated that he was a good student, participated in ROTC, and was a fashion model in his spare time. Another important fact was that he was bullied last school year and his mother took those complaints to the principle and school board. Is there a possibility of retaliation from those bullies?

                        I wonder if this child were of a different race, would there be a candle light vigil and the media raising money to end bullying? Or was the fight against bullying last season's cause?

                        • 9 votes
                        #8.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                        I live near Camden, NJ Dave. His assumptions are pretty much true. No need to wait anymore, smartass.

                        • 13 votes
                        #8.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                        Mike, all of your responses suggest that you would have made the same assumption anyway. I am hoping you are just another sad troll, but you probably really are a bored bigot.

                        • 6 votes
                        #8.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

                        Mike we are still waiting, I live in KCMO, the streets are filled with people getting up and going to school and work when I commute in the AM. We have in this country a generation of african american youth who have given up and given in to peer pressure and a street lifestyle even so this does not constitute an entire community.

                        • 1 vote
                        #8.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

                        Thank you tmp21 for making that statement. It crazy to me that people will vilify a innocent boy who was simply walking to school. But because he is black, he must have been up to no good... right? This is same mentality that got Trayvon shot and killed, along with other innocent young black males. And being that I have a 3 year old black son, I have a serious problem with it. And let me add that just three weeks ago a young white boy posted on his FB page "First day of school, last day of my life" before going to school and shooting a student with Down Syndrome. And there was not one comment made about him being a thug or a gang member. At his home where he lived with ONE parent there is a sign that states "We don't call the police" with a picture of a gun. And yet there were no comments blaming his parent or upbringing. Funny how that works!

                        • 6 votes
                        #8.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                        Detroit here, and his assumptions are TRUE.

                        Families and entire communities have broken down.
                        Nobody goes to work for a paycheck, they go to the mailbox.

                        • 9 votes
                        #8.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                        While these observations may be true, what is the solution? Are these kids worth saving or do we keep abandoning them and neglecting the schools they're supposed to learn to be better at?

                          #8.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                          His observations are absolutely true. Tony and Dave have no clue and never will. They just don't want to hear the truth about low income minority communities because it does not sound nice.

                          Tu Pac, Bill Cosby, Herman Cain and many more black stars have been saying the same thing for a long time. But, they are often attacked for making such direct claims. Tu Pac was not publicly attacked for speaking about the responsibilities blacks have in their communities, but he was killed prematurely, so who knows what would have come from him in later years. But, hell, that's just more evidence of the very issue king was referencing.

                          • 7 votes
                          #8.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                          tmp21, usually in the academic setting a "modeling club" refers to something scientific or mathematically based. I'd be very surprised if the school sponsored a fashion modelling club!

                          • 2 votes
                          #8.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                          I'm from the area and a lot of the schools have modeling clubs. The modeling club was just that, a fashion based club, they make and model their own creations, put on fashion shows, nothing to do with science or math, just another extracurricular activity.

                            #8.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                            Modeling could refer to mathematical modeling, fashion modeling, or airplane modeling. I rather doubt an inner city school would have a mathematical modeling club, but you never know. If it was fashion modeling there might have been the presumption (right or wrong) that the young man was gay.

                              #8.13 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                              KOTJJ, You are so on the money. How come anytime one talks like that in America you're racist? I don;t see JJackson, O. Winfrey,etc. addressing the black community with start-talking, stop being so ghetto dialogue. Again, since the 80s, it's so important to act "black" instead of trying to be a great person. Not one of the political leaders in the black community, "tell it like it is" to their own, because then they would be "Racist Oreos" as the saying goes. Now we got white kids (wiggers) trying to be thug hip hop gangstas. WHY? It;s all so low class and dehumanizing.

                                #8.14 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

                                in the middle-2260511

                                His observations are absolutely true. Tony and Dave have no clue and never will. They just don't want to hear the truth about low income minority communities because it does not sound nice.

                                Tu Pac, Bill Cosby, Herman Cain and many more black stars have been saying the same thing for a long time. But, they are often attacked for making such direct claims. Tu Pac was not publicly attacked for speaking about the responsibilities blacks have in their communities, but he was killed prematurely, so who knows what would have come from him in later years. But, hell, that's just more evidence of the very issue king was referencing.

                                Are u on dope ? U see life as a cynic and all the drudgery that comes out of it and make an myopic opinion.

                                BTW, tupac death's had nothing to do with speaking out about blk's responsibilities. I enjoy tupac's music and even though he was never in a gang he glamorized the life of a gangster. His death was result of a feud between him and notorious big

                                  #8.15 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:53 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  The intentionally 'Dumbed Down' abhor education and those seriously attempting to be educated.

                                  If bullets must fly within our borders, they should be directed at our home-grown enemies. The Land of Laws is no more!

                                  • 5 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                                  ...if only he had bben armed

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                  Yes, Rick, if only he had walked into school armed. Then, he'd be a low-life thug from the ghetto on welfare all the time, right?

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #10.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

                                  Rick, even if he had been armed, do you honestly think he would have had time to draw his weapon and fire back? What good would him being armed have done? Besides that, kids walking to school should not have to arm themselves. I can only hope that is your attempt at being sarcastic and that you're not being serious.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #10.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

                                  Rick, your sarcasm does no good whatsoever.

                                  He was too young. Had he been 21, he might have been, legally that is.

                                  People like you, Rick, cannot legislate safety. You can only strip law-abiding citizens of their right to bear arms.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #10.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                                  Rick-546746

                                  ...if only he had bben armed

                                  ............If only you had your spell checker on.................

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #10.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                                  Rick - you want 18 year old boys to start carrying guns? you REALLY think that's a good idea? Young boys are raging with testosterone. No one would survive.

                                    #10.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

                                    mindyabusiness---I believe that there was someone close in age with a gun at the time of this mans death...the comment you posted is a "duh!!!!!!" moment in your life. everyone knows that...but thats how the ghetto is.

                                      #10.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                                      LiveLaughLove - I understand how the "ghetto" as you call it operates. I grew up there. Gun ownership escalates until everyone has one but it's not just specific to the "ghetto" or any other economic group. Hence why the answer can't be "welp he should have had a gun to protect himself." It's too easy to slip into everyone having a gun and this sort of thing happens more frequently.

                                        #10.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:50 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Find the guy or guys, make sure tis them and then gun them down, preferably right where they gunned him down. That particual problem solved.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:11 AM EDT
                                        Comment author avatarBen-1899140Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                        Hey Leroy, lets just take the guns away from the Ni@@er's and there will certainly be less gun deaths.

                                        • 10 votes
                                        Reply#12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                                        It would seem to be a better notion, to take the keyboard away from dumba**es that make stupid comments.

                                        • 29 votes
                                        #12.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

                                        Ben-1899140 please get over urself and ur stupid ass comments....its 2012 violence has no color...

                                        • 8 votes
                                        #12.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                                        Violence has no color? Seriously??

                                        A 2007 special report released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, reveals that approximately 8,000 — and, in certain years, as many as 9,000 African Americans are murdered annually in the United States. This chilling figure is accompanied by another equally sobering fact, that 93% of these murders are in fact perpetrated by other blacks.

                                        So things have changed so much in 5 years that violence now has no color?

                                        • 16 votes
                                        #12.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                                        @Ben-1899140

                                        If the world got rid of cra(1<ers like you ignorance would greatly diminish!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                        Ben that word does not suggest color it is an ignorant, ill mannered or low class people hmmmm now who does that describe.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #12.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

                                        oh boy.............the kkk rally must have been rained out today for benny boy.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #12.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

                                        no way. If I have to respect your right to carry guns, you have to respect ours. We're all equal, remember? The constitution doesn't apply to only a few selected citizens.

                                        And let's leave disrespectful language out of this. It nullifies your argument.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #12.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                        Actually D-Bo27 that may be the actual definition, but it's not everyday that you hear about ignorant whites being called one. Escpecially in the case where it is a white person using it on a discussion board related to the unnecessary death of a black man. Maybe Ben is black, but I doubt it.

                                        Ben--you by definition should be able to use the word, because the definition describes you and others of your caliber to a T.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                        Isn't it odd that everyone is just assuming that this kid was killed by another black kid. Got news for you folks..whites live in the inner cities and poor neighborhoods as well. And Hispanics, and Asians, and Native Americans, and Indians, and any other race or creed you care to name.

                                        What a bunch of racist thinkers. Pfft.

                                          #12.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                                          Not really DOCJT. District Heights is 88% black so the shooter was most likely black.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #12.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:12 PM EDT
                                          Reply

                                          awful, just awful

                                          • 1 vote
                                          Reply#13 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                                          Gangs, drugs, illegal guns and high school age boys -- they all just don't mix.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#14 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

                                          What if it was a legal gun? I also think of prescribed drugs as bad,,,MMMMKAY? Just because a doctor has approved your abuse of a substance does not make it better than one that is not "approved" by our government.

                                          The sad story is that this will not be the only killing in America today people...We are entertained by violence like Rome. We have a giant army that is always on the move...Like Rome...And in case you are wondering...Yes...We are Rome people. The country is on its decline and Plato was correct, there will be no Utopia. No politician can fix humanity...You must be the change you wish to see...But either way...We are all dead in due time anyways...

                                          Have a great day people...And remember to smoke weed...It helps make a crazy world seem a little bit better... ;)

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #14.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                                          Hairfarmer

                                          What if it was a legal gun?

                                          All guns were legal at one point.

                                          "And remember to smoke weed...It helps make a crazy world seem a little bit better... ;)"

                                          It also have been linked to testicular cancer, be careful :>)

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #14.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                                          Everyone who has eaten a carrot will die...Those who do not eat carrots will also die...

                                          I do not believe that weak "study" that is being put out as "news"...

                                          Remember...There is no such thing as propaganda...Tell everyone.

                                            #14.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            Guns are definitely not the problem. You can be sure that whoever did this was not a legal gun owner. More gun laws will not solve this sort of behavior. It is much more complicated than that. Our society has some serious issues.

                                            • 19 votes
                                            Reply#15 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

                                            finally...a voice of reason

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #15.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                                            agreed. What's the solution though? More education? Our country can't afford that. Increase enforcement of truancy? We don't have enough cops to do that. More gun laws? People will just disregard them. I mean... is there a solution to violence like this?

                                              #15.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

                                              mindyabusiness: "More education? Our country can't afford that. Increase enforcement of truancy? We don't have enough cops to do that. More gun laws? More people will just disregard them. I mean.. is there a solution to violence like this? Yes. Stop taxayer money for useless tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires who park their bottomless wealth in tax shelters in overseas accounts and HQ's overseas, STOP rewarding coporations who keep outsourcing American worker's jobs and funding wars, wars, wars and taxpayer subsidies to the mega-billionaire fossi fuel industry who need our taxpayer subsidies like a centpede needs another leg for starters. Stop this 40 year useless "war on drugs" that has only enriched the wealth of the drug cartels and the illegal weapons trade over the border btwn Mexico and the USA that has cost the US taxpayers billions in wasted dollars and lives and filled our prisons at a rate of incarceration of 700% since the 80's-32,000 a YEAR per prisoner to house somebody for petty "drug offenses" instead of rehab or a fine that stays on their record, ruins their chances of ever getting gainful employment and do begins the vicious cycle of being in and out of prison for what is basically most of their lives compared to what most people are earning at a minimum wage JOB or what an elderly person on what the gop/teahads now love to call "those bankrupting entitlements like SS, MA and MC that HAVE to be reformed, PRIVATIZED and turned into coupon program in order to be "saved"have to live on. In fact, those programs have a recipient/beneficiary iving on less then one HLAF to a THIRD of what it costs to incarcerate people in Americas prisons and we incarcerate MORE of our people then any other nation and with the exception of lawless Somalia or the Sudan I believe, we also have the highest number of people who die from GUN violence then any other as well but I know, don't do anything about it is the answer.
                                              Just ignore it or the neocon way of course is MORE GUNS "make us safer just as bombing every country who just MIGHT bomb us first will make us safer so go to freaking WAR with everybody while THIS country can't spend a bloody dime educating our children, rebuilding OUR DECAYING infrastructure, taking care of our citizens when disaster strikes or seeing they ALL have decent healthcare because it's SOCIALISM and HAND-OUTS". No wonder America is such a cesspool of violence, unemployment, desperation and hatred as we fight for the scraps leftover from the billionaire's table and that's exactly the way they WANT IT. When will all you understand this and fight for YOUR dignity and what was ONCE the American Dream. It STARTS with us and we'll never get it back until this era of greed and "divide and conquer" among the REST OF US is over while the oligarchs continue to laugh all the way to the bank as they buy the politicians, judges and lobbyists to write the laws and manipulate the tax code even MORE in their favour for a "corporate ruling state" as well as one that keeps us in "perpetual war for profit"? It is sick, warped and evil. More and more people are relying on social programs to get by simply because they can't make enough to LIVE on anymore with the jobs available.
                                              To get the education for an average "entry level job" that never required a degree before starting at a pathetic 9/hr, selfish employers want at least an associate degree for DATA ENTRY and your whole life history with these ridiculous on-line applications and cover letters where you need a user ID and p/w for EVERY company you send one to since NOBODY will even let you apply in PERSON anymore so you don't even have THAT going for you over others applying for the same job. COME ON!!! It's absolute crappola.

                                                #15.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                                                The first place to start is to use all of the wasted resource for overseas wars and occupation and bring those resources home to fight the wars within.

                                                  #15.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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                                                  Kids have a very hard time growing up in a drug controlled environment.

                                                  Incarcerate ALL druggies and lower the crime rate to a manageable level.

                                                    Reply#16 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

                                                    Incarcerate ALL druggies and lower the crime rate to a manageable level.

                                                    We have been doing that for decades, Remember Nancy Regan's war on drugs, Just Say No. It is now 2012 and we see how effective that has been. How many prisons do you think we need to build and who do think will pay for them? Lets keep doing what doesn't work is your point....

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #16.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                    The drug war is a business, always has been and always will be. People are doing hard time for having a couple ounces of whatever their drug of choice is in their possession.

                                                    On average it costs $33,615 / year to keep someone imprisoned. It would cost maybe $20,000 to put that same person through college...or $25,000 to have a parole officer follow a criminal around all day to make sure hes being good. So do you really think its worth it to lock up people for smoking weed? How about we just force them all to go to school and save the taxpayers money...or better yet. Leave the recreational drug users alone and spend the money that you would use to incarcerate them to send kids from the inner cities to school...

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #16.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                                                    Rose Colored Glasses

                                                    It would cost maybe $20,000 to put that same person through college...or $25,000 to have a parole officer follow a criminal around all day to make sure hes being good.

                                                    You certainly DO see the world through "Rose Colored Classes". Would you be good enough to let everyone know what college they can go to for $20,000? And then tell everyone where you will find a Parole Officer for $25,000?

                                                    And why must they be FORCED to go to school? Is it not in their best interest to do so on their own? Are we not spending enough already on "educating" (and I use that term VERY loosely) our youth? The kids and PARENTS of the "inner city" need to take some PERSONAL responsibility for a change. We can't hold their hands throughout their lives because THEY have no desire to improve their own situation.

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                                                    #16.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

                                                    ALL druggies? Where would the doctors shill the drug companies wares? Do you think that caffeine is a drug? Aspirin? Rosemary? Turmeric?

                                                    Lock yourself up first old feller...You might be a druggie...

                                                    Oh yeah...I smoke weed all the time...And I graduated with an overall GPA of 3.87...I guess I am a no good scumbag of a reefer-head hippie! I am buying a home, I work full time, pay taxes and vote. I also protest war, and generally have a good time in life..I have even done other drugs on my way to getting this old...I am surely unfit to be on the streets...Please come round me up and inter me for the good of society.

                                                    Life is a fatal, sexually transmitted disease...Some of us just don't see it yet...You will...We all will...Enjoy life like you stole it...Because everyday you are alive...You did.

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                                                    #16.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                                    Tony,

                                                    Nancy Reagan didn't start the "War on (some) Drugs", that was Nixon.

                                                    Nancy Reagan had a campaign to say "NO" to drugs. You've got a problem with that? No kid who ever said "no" to drugs became an addict or died of a drug overdose. Same thing with abstinence. It works, every time it's tried. Amazing how that works.

                                                    I will agree that the "war" is a failure and needs to be stopped, but blaming Nancy Reagan for a common sense approach is just wrong.

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                                                    #16.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

                                                    XDM9mm

                                                    $20,000/ year for a post secondary school?, I think you could find one. and $25,000/ year is a salary that many Americans make. Do I really think that they can force ppl to go to school? No. Do I really think that they could have a person follow around every criminal so they dont commit another crime? No. If you took my comment that literal, I suspect that daily life must be very confusing for you. You're obviously missing my point just for the sake of an argument.

                                                    My point is. The war on drugs is pointless and largely money driven. Its a waste of taxpayers money to incarcerate people for drug possession on a small scale. I'm not taking about major drug pushers. I'm talking about someone being caught with a small amount for personal use who wasnt be a menace to society by staggering down the street on a meth high harassing people. Do you know how many upper middle class ppl from the suburbs use drug as a recreation? You dont see DEA swat teams raiding their houses. They focus mainly on the urban areas. So basically they do a sweep net a bunch of guys smoking weed and other lesser drugs, throw them in jail and stick the taxpayers with the bill. Having the taxpayers pay for a war that isnt working is pointless and obviously someone is benefiting from it in other ways for it to be going on for so long.

                                                    If you want to put a dent in the problem make sure the kids who are growing up in areas where crime and drugs are saturated are educated. Boosting education funds in these areas (and not just inner cities because there are high rates of drug use in rural areas too) benefits everyone and stops the cycle of crime and drug abuse. When people know better, they do better. When they see a way out they will do what they can to achieve.

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                                                    #16.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                                                    The war on drugs is just a small part of the war on crime. Druggies ARE criminals, committing crimes.

                                                    We MUST NOT give in to criminals.

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                                                    #16.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

                                                    @Rose Colored Glasses

                                                    Dumping more money into the education system isn't the answer. The kids don't want to go to school, they do not want to learn. Then blame everyone else for their problems because they didn't take advantage of the education they were receiving.

                                                      #16.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                                                      AZ Tumbleweed - I work six days a week, busting my brain, my woman and I have taken in one of her son's friends who was having trouble at home (have you taken strangers into your house at no cost to help them?), I walk pretty much a straight and narrow line, but in your view, if I want to smoke a plant every now and then, I'm a criminal, committing crimes?

                                                      It's people like you that would make someone like me a criminal for absolutely nothing.

                                                        #16.9 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                                                        sleep:

                                                        I didn't write the law nor did I force you to violate it.

                                                          #16.10 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:04 PM EDT
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                                                          the problems with inner city type hoodlums..don't want to learn but want to hurt the students who do.the gang life and welfare is all they care about.wipe out the gangs is the only answer...or make them join the army and really fight for something....except they would be to scared to fight someone who can and will fight back..

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                                                          Reply#18 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

                                                          District heights is not the inner city. It is a suburb

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                                                          #18.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                                          Technically it is not inside city limits, but all of PG county is a warzone of DC criminals stretching out.

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                                                          #18.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                                                          As DC gentrified during the 10 or so year housing boom, the exodus of low income people from the District to PG county ramped way up. Many of the "inner city " problems went with them. Now people in the area see PG as an "Inner City" due to this influx.

                                                          Is starting to happen or has been happening in other urban areas still economically healthy enough to cater to high end yuppy class that wants to move back into the city core. Rent goes up and the poor have to leave.

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                                                          #18.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                                                          Technically it is not inside city limits, but all of PG county is a warzone of DC criminals stretching out...

                                                          Technically, an IQ of 100 is average, right in the middle. However, given the difficulty of living in the USA today - its considered "marginal" when it comes to jobs which do not require you repeat "you want fries with that" to customers patrionizing your workplace.

                                                          If you need to broaden the meaning of everything, to make it fit the profile of your discrimination - No problem. I could accept that as "marginally" acceptable.

                                                          as an after thought, several parrots have a habit of bringing up America's Dad - Bill Cosby when they want to add some weight to their pre-determined attitude about "What is wrong with Black folk..", just so it is out in the open - some "White Guy" killed his son. The police reported it as a random act of violence.

                                                          I can live with that. I wonder if Bill can? - I mean deep down in his heart, do you think he accepted that determination? Its not like his son was "asking for it" - apparently his car broke down in a "good" part of town - yet, he ended up dead.

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                                                          #18.4 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

                                                          Not sure what your profile of discrimination is. I simply stated a fact of Prince Georges County's location to inform others who may not know of it's exact location. Who did I discriminate? Criminals? I have lived in PG county. Where are you from?

                                                            #18.5 - Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
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                                                            We have a problem in our society where it seems that a new alien type of species has emerged among our younger people. They have absolutely no good intentions, no love or compassion, no ambition other than what they can get for themselves. These thugs don't have the ability to think how they would feel if someone gunned down a family member like they did. They can beat up old people, rape women, rob and murder store owners in broad daylight with no sense of conscience. It's terrible for this family as they moved to what they thought was a safer neighborhood for their son. I hope they catch these thugs and give them street justice right away which means arrest, a quick trial and then the death penalty. I used to be against it, but too many thugs are being released back to the streets after a few years for "good behavior".

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                                                            Reply#19 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:30 AM EDT

                                                            No death penalty in Maryland, but I agree with the rest of your comment.

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                                                            #19.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

                                                            Poet, unfortunately the parents are to blame in most of these situations.

                                                            You have some parents that are only adults because they lived long enough to be called one. They buy their kids $200 sneakers, iPads and iPhones but can barely pay rent. Their kids "gotta stay laced" so they can hide the fact they don't put a dime away for savings. They don't require their kids bring home decent grades or NOT get into trouble in order to EARN the material items they possess.

                                                            You have parents that let children disrespect adults and in some cases encourage it. Kid fails a class or gets a low grade the parent goes after the teacher. Teacher can't control a class because of laws and lawsuits that actually would punish a teacher for breaking up a fight or providing the type of discipline the kid NEEDS.

                                                            This world isn't perfect but PARENTS have a LOT more influence on their kids than anyone else. Sometimes it's the WRONG type of influence.

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                                                            #19.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                                            Well put. Teachers can't be daycare sitters and drill things into these kids heads they should be taught at home.

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                                                            #19.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:52 AM EDT

                                                            Being disrespectful to teachers what is wrong with that..........teachers suck.

                                                              #19.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                                                              billy6900 - your parents must be so proud of you.

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                                                              #19.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

                                                              Davebny

                                                              You and I seldom agree. Although I'll admit we might get "testy" with each other, we usually stay within the bounds of civility!! However on your post above all I can say is:

                                                              KUDOS Sir.... you have stated the very sad truth of much of the malaise in the inner city today. My hat is off to you.

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                                                              #19.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                                                              ^5!

                                                                #19.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                                                                I am an African American male and I agree nice comment Dave.

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                                                                #19.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

                                                                I am an African American woman and I also agree. There has to be some individual responsibility but in this article, where did it say he was wearing nice clothes or anything? If it was material possessions they wanted, why didnt they just jump him?

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                                                                #19.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                                                                billy6900

                                                                Perfect example of dave's post.

                                                                  #19.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                                                                  mindyabusiness,

                                                                  I was referring to the way these kids are raised that gives them the attitude in which they think they can and should do whatever they like. I grew up in one of the poorest neighborhoods in my area. So bad it's the first school system to ever be taken over by NY state. I see the attitudes of how these kids are. I grew up with their parents. Teachers have no recourse when it comes to disciplining the youth. Parent's aren't active in their lives. They buy them what they want and let them watch videos and BS on social networking sites all day. There's a lack of police presence so crime just goes on and on. There is a severe lack of responsibility and accountability.

                                                                  Recently, there have been weapon-wielding kids and grownups shot by police here in the streets of NY. Are the families mad their loved one decided to carry a weapon? NO! They got mad at the cop that's trying to protect the neighborhood and innocents around them! See anything wrong with that??

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                                                                  #19.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                                                                  This is not a problem endemic to a new generation; See WWII for examples of humans who lack empathy and embark on a path of destruction.

                                                                  Oddly, neither African Americans nor Islam had anything to do with what transpired when Germany decided to go on a rampage across Europe, the Soviet Union, and Northern Africa.

                                                                    #19.12 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:23 PM EDT
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                                                                    There has got to be more to this story. Surely he was not shot for no reason. Somebody at school got mad about something he said or did, or maybe because of his mother going to the school board, knowing they weren't going to do anything.

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                                                                    Reply#20 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

                                                                    18 and only a high school junior?? I graduated at 17. What was he doing instead of passing school the first time?

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                                                                    Reply#21 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                                    Did you miss the very clear part of the article where it said he was held back a grade? If not, I don't understand why you're confused by his age.

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                                                                    #21.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:45 AM EDT

                                                                    She said her son had a hard time adjusting and was held back a grade. His issues were social, she said, and he was bullied by a group of boys last year.

                                                                    There's your answer - IN THE STORY!

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                                                                    #21.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                                                                    Ok - so the mother is to blame. This is a very tragic event indeed. When I had bully problems, I was sent to a different school. My problems always came from getting good grades and bullies hated that. I wonder if he could have tried to test out....

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                                                                    #21.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:52 AM EDT

                                                                    18 and only a high school junior?? I graduated at 17. What was he doing instead of passing school the first time?

                                                                    I'm not sure how the school system is run there, but in Oklahoma your birthdate dictates when you can start kindergarten. I have a cousin that was born only a few months after me but due to her being born in Nov vs me being born in May she had to wait a year before she could start first grade. AT LEAST he was going to school and from reading the article was doing well. It's no shame to hold kids back a year if they are not doing well in school.

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                                                                    #21.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                                                                    How is it the mother's fault or the fault of the victim that he was still attending school? How is the fact that a young man has lost his life lost on you? The fault is with the perpetrator(s)...to suggest that what may have worked in your situation is an ignorant assumption that was an option for this family.

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                                                                    #21.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                                                                    Not to mention she moved to a better school district so he can do better... Geez, so quick to point fingers at everyone except for who's really at fault - the person with the gun!!

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                                                                    #21.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                                                                    The only reason you graduated at 17 was how your bd fell. You can not take credit for that and if you had read the story you would have known he had moved and did not handle the transfer well. You should know he was at least trying because he could have given up and quit two years ago.

                                                                      #21.7 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                                                                      Laughing Hysterically--You are an a$$hole, and a narcissist. Obviously a product of exceptional parenting.

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                                                                      #21.8 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

                                                                      And he was succeeding, according to the article. It does say he was on the honor roll. He was probably a great kid - and that might be why he was targeted. My comment about the mother was meant to suggest that if she knew it was sooooo bad at the school, and that the young man was having a harder time than he deserved, why didn't she have him test out of school?

                                                                        #21.9 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                                                                        Laughing Histerically----you honestly did not pay attention to the article before you felt that you had to put your opinion on here! Seriously ignorant.

                                                                          #21.10 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

                                                                          My husband was held back a year in elementary school and that was a decision made by his OWN MOTHER because his reading comprehension was poor by her standards and she wanted him to repeat the year until he got his reading up. Needless to say, he HIT the books and learned to tow the line in school. Both of my girls are super smart and while my youngest needs constant pushing to get her work done, she is very intelligent and BOTH of them know it's homework and other schoolwork FIRST before computer time or anything else and they do that when they get HOME. Back packs are checked and when homework is done, I check it to see it's done , their required reading is done and teacher notes, notices that go home are looked at as well. Yup, the LIBERAL Mom here on my kid's butts ALL the time.

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                                                                          #21.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                                                                          The only reason you graduated at 17 was how your bd fell. You can not take credit for that and if you had read the story you would have known he had moved and did not handle the transfer well. You should know he was at least trying because he could have given up and quit two years ago...

                                                                          I knew a kid back when I was in short pants ... he was skipped a grade by teachers and principles. Then about half way into his semester in that grade, the new teacher recommended that he be skipped to the next grade. So, when they came back after halloween break - he was put in the next grade.

                                                                          He had no problem with doing the work - but there were several problems in the new grade. Soon the teacher in that class was reporting that he was causing problems, was "difficult", interrupting classes at the new school.

                                                                          Come to find out, the problem was he was pepared, did his homework and annswered when called upon - and sometimes spoke too long in trying to give a complete answer to the teachers question. His mom looked over the situation and decided he should go back a grade - which returned him to his old school. So, technically - he was not only held back a grade his records would show he had "failed" 5th grade. His family talked it over and decided to move to a different area. The new school, put him back in 5th grade and he eventually graduated high school at 15 1/2... while attending Junior College at the same time. Seems the problem wasn't with the kid - it was with the teachers he had to deal with. There was one teacher in particular who actually questioned if he was really doing the homework - or if it was being done by the parents.

                                                                          Great expectations are not what teachers deal with in grade school, they are not hire to teach exceptional students. They are hired to teach the state mandated lesson plan for the grade he was in. If the parent had been more affluent, if the school system had Advanced classes, Magnet schools or funding to encourage, he might have gotten out even earlier.

                                                                            #21.12 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:29 AM EDT
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                                                                            I went to school in District Heights in the '80s it was a horror show then. I would never take my kids there to live. She thought they were tough enough? Jeez Ghetto Mentality at its worst.

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                                                                            Reply#22 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                                                                            You are a Fu@@ing ass. How dumb you sound this woman had lost her son and you called her gehtto. I hope you don't have kids, and if one of your kids get shot I'll be sure to make the same comment ass hole.

                                                                              #22.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

                                                                              She affirmed that she's ghetto by her ebonics. Still, a terrible loss for her.

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                                                                              #22.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

                                                                              I do have kids. I called her mentality ghetto not her. Personal attacks are not allowed here.

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                                                                              #22.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                                                              Joe, did you not attack the mother's "personal" mentality.

                                                                              Justifiably I am sure that nikki was attacking your words, not you "personally".

                                                                                #22.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                                                                He specifically called me a fu@@ing ass and an ass hole.

                                                                                My words were Ghetto Mentality at its worst. big big difference. but thanks for playing

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                                                                                #22.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                                                                                You make it sound like she's inferior or less of person than anybody here.. scratch that. you make it sound like shes inferior to you

                                                                                  #22.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                                                                                  Thank You Troy O! Joe if the shoe fits you should probably wear it...

                                                                                  She called you that based on the words that you said...had you not said something so ignorant in your personal and insensitive attack on a woman who just lost her son to a senseless act of violence (have some class) then she probably wouldn't have called you a wittle name...poor baby. Don't bite off more than you can chew...you're like the little boy on the playground that goes around starting trouble but can't take it when kids get tired of your crap.

                                                                                    #22.7 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

                                                                                    While you may be disagreeing with Joe, he does have a valid point - the mom did actually say she moved back to that neighborhood from the one with the better schools cause she thought the kids were now 'tough enough' to attend school there.

                                                                                    While it's horrible that a mother would have to think that for her kids to attend any school, it's what the mother actually said.

                                                                                    I'm not blaming her or her son for what happened, but would any of you move to a ghetto area and put your kid in a school there because now you think your kid is 'tough enough'? I'm guessing for most of you, the answer would be no, I wouldn't do that, because I'd rather keep my kid in this better, safer school district and that is not what happened here.

                                                                                      #22.8 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

                                                                                      I invite you to take your lilly white a$$ to the heights and see for yourself if any reasonable person would choose to move back there after making it out. Messyjessie she lost the son due to her own choices. Had she not had the mentality that her kids were tough enough for the hood he would still be alive. I am willing to bet he had an air of arrogance after living in an upperscale neighborhood.

                                                                                        #22.9 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                                                                                        She affirmed that she's ghetto by her Ebonics(sic). Still, a terrible loss for her...

                                                                                        I find it strange that very often reporters will "translate" their interviews before putting the remarks in print. For instance, you call it "Ebonics" ... granted. no doubt, in a stressful time (remember - her son is dead, by violence), which likely means she was not self-editing. Personally; I am not a fan of sticking a microphone in the face of relatives who just lost a loved one - to get the; fresh, raw interview... but I digress - thats just my personal view.

                                                                                        However, I found it weird to listen to a speech given by our previous white house occupant, then read the provided transcript which is provided to the press for public consumption. Its like watching a Movie - where the "Indians" way out in hills of North Dakota speak in Shakespearean phrases.

                                                                                        Or some tobacco farmer in Virgina or the Carolina's, who never went to school speaks perfect English - if that can be believed ... when you read their remarks as provided by a reporter. Seems "translation" from red-neck are done spontaneously. But "Ebonics" are printed raw and unedited?

                                                                                        There was "skit" on some comedy TV show I remember. There was this Middle East Indian, was talking and his words were being posted in subtitles, below the scene. So, as the skit goes on he is talking to interviewer - every time they put the microphone to India (who, by the way, - had an Oxford accent) the subtitles would come up.

                                                                                        Through the magic of TV, in real time, he was able to see the subtitles. Eventually he gets angry, the angrier as the subtitles continue. Seems the interviewer couldn't quite process that the Indian actually spoke English clearly.. obviously subtitles were necessary.

                                                                                        Seems their is a policy which reqires them to put some conversations through the "Fair and Balanced" filter.

                                                                                          #22.10 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:02 PM EDT
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                                                                                          Too many kids standing at bus stops in the mornings wanting to fight or talk continuously about fighting. We moved recently and my 2 girls now have to catch the bus with a mixture of african americans,whites,asian and hispanic children. And out of all of those theres one african american about 6 ft tall in the 7th or 8th grade down there among 10 &11 yos talking out loud about fighting or wanting to fight ,cussing up a storm. All amongst small children. I personally would love to put some wholesale a$s whooping on him but he's still a minor. I now escort my 2 -10yos down there and stand with them till they are on the bus. Apparently some parents don't teach their kids that school is for education. Its too tough in the world to be just ghetto stupid. Who ever shot this kid apparently wasn't taught by their parents that school is for learning, not to get out of the house or apartment and go play billy joe bada$$ or bully and intimidate smaller children.

                                                                                          Find the shooter, then find the parents of the shooter if they're minors.

                                                                                          Sorry to hear another kid just wanting to go to school and get an education without the hassle of being harassed by stupid a$$,ghetto raised bullies died. It really is a sad society we live in now.

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                                                                                          Reply#23 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                                                                                          Amen!

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                                                                                          #23.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

                                                                                          @Jim-343525 I thought that this article was about a shooting in Maryland, not about your personal issues; issues you should take up with your school District.

                                                                                          But since you brought it up. Have any of the adults at the bus stop spoken to this child
                                                                                          about his behavior, encouraged him to tone it down, or considered talking to his parents? Oh no, I forgot, he's 6 feet tall and black so he's an intimidating,ghetto, uneducated menace with no home training. He couldn't possibly have developmental, mental, or behavioral issues.

                                                                                          Your issue is with this child's behavior and not his skin color, his height or his weight. So be a
                                                                                          grown up and address the issue. Speak to his parents, call the school, involve the authorities if necessary but stop insinuating that his behavior has anything to do with the color of his skin. It has EVERYTHING to do with your silence. You come to the comment section of a National News outlet and complain about an issue you could have solved with a 20 minute phone call. An issue that is not about race or violence or
                                                                                          murder but about you’re inability to be the adult in this situation.

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                                                                                          #23.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                                                                                          Mrs Jackson,

                                                                                          LOL, talk to his parents?? Are you kidding me? The kid is black: He probably has no dad (78% black kids born with no dad present). If he does have a dad he is probably a gang banger or some typical idiot drain on society and would shoot you for showing up at his residence which i mind you he is probably not paying for (section 8 housing vouchers) in the first place, we the tax payers are.

                                                                                          You like many other blacks live in a dream land where you see your race as still being "victimized" by society when in essence you all have every advantage over every other person in society. Colleges accpt lower test scores so the black students can get in, specialized black college funds etc..Then when they graduate we have the worst thing ever called affirmative action which gets them jobs over more qualified individuals who are willing to work and do a better job. This race has every advantage known to man kind these days yet the black race continues to come in last place in terms of everything possible: look it up the facts are there but you want to avoid them and act as if they dont exist: Lowest in education, lowest in IQ, highest crime rate, highest percentage in prisons, highest percentage born without fathers and mothers who want no part of working or taking care of the 4-8 litters each of them have, highest instances of hate crimes (yes black on white crime is at an all time high, highest STD rate etc.. The list goes on and one but until your race stands up and takes responsibility for their actions it will enevr change and the black race will never get any respect in this country. Slavery is over, none of you or even your grandparents were slaves and none of us in this country owe you a damn thing including free housing, food stamps, ebt cards, wic vouchers, jobs you dont deserve, accepting low grade IQ'd losers into universities they dont belong etc... Get over yourself and get over playing the victim as the race thing no longer works.

                                                                                          The mans issue with the childs behavior could very well be a skin color as lets look at some more facts and look at black youth today to find the answer to that. The fact of the matter is stereotypes and first impressions hold true 99% of the time unfortunately and when i see a typical half ratarded black kid wobbling around yelling, cussing and talking violence i see it for what it is and that is typical or the standard norm. how many good black innercity kids do you see? Now how many bad ones do you see? fact of the matter is you choose to put your blinders on to the real problem in society today and it is BLACKS unfortunatley. This country will never progress and will always be in financial trouble because the black race multiples at an unbelievable rate, needs taken care of by everyone, does not contribute to society less you count the NBA, and only kills it with their violence, hate and "i deserve everything give it to me attitude". i say let your kind starve if you dont want to work and just want to commit crimes. Do you realize in China if black were to go overt there they would let everyone of you starve to death in the cold? Oh yeah they would put up with your high crime rate either. If we as a society could adapt something in between what we have now and what china has we might possibly be able to control this disease that is spreading called the black race. Like it or not those are the facts all blacks know it, our leaders know it, all whites know it and every other race knows it as well. Its just everyone is too afraid to appear that they are a big bad racist if they talk about it so they keep quiet and continue to let an entire race of people walk all over everyone, rob us, kill us, take from us, live off our tax dollars, complain that they need more, then in turn hate us and call us white devils for taking care of their worthless behinds. Get off your high horse, get your facts straight and se it for what it is instead of acting like this problem does not exist.

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                                                                                          #23.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

                                                                                          So the deadliest shooting in the Aurora Calarodo theatre was by a black man from your logic.

                                                                                          The greatest problem in our society is ignorance. Ignorance breeds intolerance, revenge, stupidity, failure, fear, anger, educational lack, educational impatience to study and learn, incompetence, etc. in other words when you don't seek true knowledge of and knowledge about, you make ridiculous comments and go on ignorant rants like what 'Shawnsc89' did above.

                                                                                          In a word, Shawnsc89, you are an IDIOT. You shout the word Fact, as if reading Fox news is where facts reside. My family and extended family has 12+ doctors, a ton of teachers, engineers, accountants, and host of successful small business owners, and blue collar workers, white collar, and no collar workers; and we also have some unemployed members that we pray for and keep trying to help atour reunions. We are all black and we love each other and everyone else. Your problem, again, is ignorance.

                                                                                          God says that a man who is prideful and ignorant (Lack of knowledge and truth) is dome for failure.

                                                                                          You are headed that way.

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                                                                                          #23.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                                                                                          Graduated or got thrown out, laughing? Your posts don't hold much evidence of being educated.

                                                                                            #23.5 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                                                                            Shawn: are you done with your rant?

                                                                                            This young man was in track and involved in a modeling club and the ROTC. Maybe other students were jealous of him because he was excelling and trying to make something of himself. He had a difficult time when he moved there at first. But, sounds like he pulled himself up.

                                                                                              #23.6 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:17 PM EDT
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                                                                                              it probably would have helped with their propaganda cause if they hadn't quoted.......
                                                                                              “Always want to fight, every time he see them, they saying something to him,”

                                                                                                Reply#24 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

                                                                                                Dead Eagle

                                                                                                "Propaganda cause"????????

                                                                                                Excuse me, but the mother was noting what the others wanted to do. If you took the time to actually read the entire article, you would have noticed that this kid was actually trying to improve his situation and stay OUT of trouble.

                                                                                                He WAS getting good grades, he WAS a member of the ROTC program, he WAS NOT looking for trouble. Trouble came looking for him.

                                                                                                I'd agree with you if this was the usual... "he's a good boy, just misunderstood", but in this case it appears he WAS the good kid........

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                                                                                                #24.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                                                                                                "... but in this case it appears he WAS the good kid..."

                                                                                                And, unfortunately, that's probably what got him killed.

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                                                                                                #24.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                                                                                                Spudbucket-6393332

                                                                                                And the truth of what you say is truly sad.

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                                                                                                #24.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

                                                                                                Exactly what I was saying! He was probably targeted BECAUSE he was a good kid.

                                                                                                People get so butt-hurt on here.

                                                                                                  #24.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:01 PM EDT
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                                                                                                  Simply life in the jungle of inner city US taken over by uneducated, uncivilized people. This is how they live and what they do and it shows no sign of any change.

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                                                                                                  Reply#25 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

                                                                                                  Thats simply not true. If you volunteer for any of the many special interest non profits in the hood, you'll actually see a lot of kids trying to get out of that lifestyle. This is the unfortunate story of a kid who didn't make it. To say no one is trying to change or showing no signs of changing is false. There are more African Americans on college campuses now than ever before (including me!) so don't make broad statements condemning all of us please.

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                                                                                                  #25.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                                                                                  So, William, you live in the inner city, then? Because your post reeks of lack of education and the civility of a boar hog.

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                                                                                                  #25.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

                                                                                                  Exactly...Every day Darwin's theory of evolution is debunked..Not all things evolve or change and with every stupid act the stereotypes are perpetuated...

                                                                                                    #25.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:37 PM EDT
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                                                                                                    ...

                                                                                                    Where are Jesse and A ??

                                                                                                    Not at this one.

                                                                                                    This black on black.

                                                                                                    Nothing to be gained politically here.

                                                                                                    ...

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                                                                                                    Reply#26 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                                                                                                    Racism seems to ooze between your words. You don't know the color of the shooter. The police are investigating, so at this point there is no reason for Jesse or Al to be involved. Get it?

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                                                                                                    #26.1 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                                                                                                    Rick-881466

                                                                                                    You obviously don't know Prince Georges county very well.

                                                                                                    And why may I ask is Jesse or Al NOT out there EVERY DAY condemning the black on black violence? The only man that ever really publicly condemned it was Bill Cosby, and he was soundly condemned by the black community for telling the truth.

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                                                                                                    #26.2 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                                                                                                    you fellows are right! if a white kid would have shot and killed a black kid.every one would be marching right behind (A SHARPTON).- (JESSE JACKSON.) as there screaming out raceizem. there are not 2 more bigger racests in our country then those two.

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                                                                                                    #26.3 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:33 AM EDT
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                                                                                                    Johnathan Ivan, thank you.

                                                                                                      Reply#27 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                                                                                                      You're welcome; Based on the fact my comment has been removed... it appears that NBC isn't quite as proud of their parent company, Defense Contractor General Electric, as one would expect. I was raised to respect and honor your parents; Apparently NBC must have some rule against referring to their lineage.

                                                                                                      (and yes, it is a lineage; Corporations are people now, per the SC).

                                                                                                        #27.1 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:12 PM EDT
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